Reminds me of The History channel before the history aspect became history... Ya know, before shows like Monster Quest.. Rarrrrh! And Hairy Bikers.. Der!
@@willcass4969 there is something different about nascar compared to other types of racing. Watching stock cars smash into each other at 190 MPH is truly something different
The hypothetical perspective of a time traveler helps trigger my imagination. I also really appreciate that you made videos explaining Roman wages and the relative buying power of a given amount of their currency. Keep it up, this is my favorite channel for Roman History!
"Imagine yourself at the ancient Olympics..." OMG, I'm naked, and that giant reaching for my jewels must be Milo of Kroton! Curse you toldinstone, I'm not imagining this going well at all, how do you say "HELP!" in Greek?
Ok I usually don’t comment twice but the way he said “discouraged” with every letter perfectly annunciated reeked of academic disdain. Top 10 told in stone moments for sure
6:50 still a legit move in grappling and combat sports today. Most people call this move Drop Seoi Nage as they assume it comes from Japan. Interesting how this is thought of as a Judo throwing technique but here it is being used in Wrestling. Just shows how sophisticated these combat athletes were. Amazing video 🤙
It's Ippon-Zeoi in sumo, as well. They don't come from anywhere i think, it's just the ways in which humans grapple and different cultures named them differently
How can 1 youtuber be so based? Thank you. Also im enjoying your bright orange book (it helps me find it when i leave it laying around) very very much.
I’ve been to the ancient stadium track in Delphi, as well! It’s a very humbling experience to run on the same field athletes have been competing on for nearly three thousand years.
Outstanding. I always count the days till your next post! One more month till your book is out… For those who might not know, the ubiquitous abbreviation “gym” originates from the Greek word “gymnos” meaning naked. Think of that when preparing your sports gear for a workout..
I love history and I love your channel Dr. Ryan. I also pre-ordered your book: Naked statues and fat gladiators.I know I will devour it as soon as I get it. Can't wait. And thank you for teaching us history geeks all those incredible things from the Classical period.
What i always wondered about the ancient Romans is how much view they had into their own past. Did they have any interest in 'history'. Did that word even exist. Did they know about historical events much older than themselves that we have completely lost. Or did they on the contrary only know a few centuries before their time ?
They certainly did seem to have an interest in the history of themselves. For one, they kept highly accurate list of all the Consuls which even goes to the end of the 6th century when the Republic began. As for proper histories, we know that one of the earliest was by Cato the Elder (234-149 B.C) who wrote a history that was unique in that it covered the ancient histories of not just Rome, but of many city states throughout Italy. This has, however, been lost to time. Some historians who cover the history of Rome from 500+ years before their time would include the famous Livy, and the more obscure Dionysius of Halicarnassus, historians are mixed as to how accurate their account of early Rome is as the shroud of legend and loss of records made the early history fairly obscure even to the Romans of the late republic/early empire. Part of the problem is we believe many of the ancient records of Rome were burned when the Gauls sacked Rome in 390 B.C. So to sum it all up, the Romans were definitely interested in history to a great deal (They wrote a great number of history books) but their knowledge in regards to their own history in it's earliest days was definitely vague and myth-infused. (And yes, the word "history" as far as I'm aware, is from the Latin word "Historia" so it certainly did exist in those days) I hope this helps a bit!
Mark Wildman's channel touches on physique and the specific kinds of training that the ancient world did, hence why we see the way the builds were of ancient people in statues. It would be an interesting collab with you both to see his insight as a fitness trainer, and your in depth understanding of historical context to do a deep dive on the builds of the Greeks and Romans
Or the sisters who competed, and one won the armoured foot race. There isn't room for nuance in a short video. But at every Olympian Games there was a seat for the priestess of Demeter, who was a married woman. It was like a marble throne set into the slope. A virgin could attend, which pretty much meant a Dorian girl, because all the Ionian and Attikaean ones were married at ten or eleven. That's because a virgin is a pallas, a nonbinary category. Think of them as honorary young men. And of course female slaves could attend because slaves didn't fall under restrictions for full human beings.
It seems your history videos focus on ancient rome and greece but it would be amazing to expand to other civilizations or time periods with the time traveler perspective. The whole time traveler's guide concept is fantastic and should keep going!
Really enjoyed this! But one has to note ... The Olympics evolved and changed. Thucydides notes that within his 5th century BCE memory, competitors at Olympia still wore loincloths. Going nude was a Spartan fashion that caught on. The length of the festival was between 3 and 9 days at different times. This is because the roster of events kept growing. Olympia kept changing. There are at least 3 major versions. The reconstruction you visit today is the Roman and late Hellenistic, Olympia III. It's major changes like building a temple where the hippodrome entry used to be sort of thing. The covered entry to the stadium, for example, is an addition of III. It wouldn't be there in 350 BCE. Women, of certain kinds, could attend. See my reply below. Pausanias covers this in his two chapters dedicated to Olympia. People who say otherwise aren't doing proper primary source research. I suspect you are using secondary or tertiary sources here. Part of the fun at Olympia's hippodrome is that there was a demon, Taraxippos, the Horse Scarer, only the horses could see. When it came out, teams would start panicking and they were lucky if three chariots finished. Now, for the lady time traveller, how about shopping in Rome? Or spa day at the Baths of Caracalla?
Short and clear - nice presentation - thanks for your effort. At 1:40 "Network television ..." = LOL! And at 4:00 I think it is "barbeCue" - but don't take it personally pls.
I'm curious about one thing. From the time of Augustus onwards, how common was it for Romans to attend the games? It must have seemed pretty tame to what they could watch for free in the Flavian Amphitheatre for example. And I imagine the average upper class Roman who could afford to travel baulking at 'primitive latrines' and no baths. And, to quote Agrippina in "I Claudius" - "I don't know, I'm just not comfortable with all this nudity".
We don't know about the numbers of Romans who traveled to Olympia, but in general the Romans never really took to Greek athletics - not least, as you suggest, because they just weren't as exciting as Roman-style gladiatorial matches and chariot races. Nero celebrated the Neronia festival in Rome twice, each time with both athletic and artistic events inspired by Greek models. These failed to survive Nero himself, but Domitian's Capitoline Greek Games (held in the stadium that would eventually become the Piazza Navona) proved more durable. As far as we can tell, however, they were never very popular.
So they held the Do or Die (literally) chariot races on the 2nd day, and the Mixed Grill BBQ (sacrifice) on the 3rd? Have a feeling I know what the majority of the meat was at the BBQ. As usual, sir, brilliant video. Now I know what days to aim for in the future (sorry, Past) :)
Implementing a return to the naked Olympics might just get me to care about the Olympics again. As a runner, I really wish we could know the sort of times they were running back then!
I was wondering if I could ask you the 'flip side' of my earlier question? If the Romans weren't into the Hellenic idea of games showcasing human strength and skills, how did the Greeks - the Hellenic world - view the Roman games? I imagine they could enjoy Roman chariot races but specifically, how would the average educated, upper-class Greek in the Roman Empire feel about gladiatorial combats, beast fights or innovative ways to execute criminals in public? Did cities in Greece, the Aegean and Asia Minor from, say, the time of Augustus onwards have arenas, Roman style? Did they construct arenas in occupied Israel/Judea/Samaria? The Jewish faith had and has so many proscriptions about blood I can't imagine they would have flocked to watch.
Gladiatorial games became fairly widespread in the culturally Greek provinces. Amphitheaters were rare, but many theaters were retrofitted to handle gladiators and beast hunts. Roman-style games, however, always controversial; Greek intellectuals like Dio Chrysostom and Plutarch complain bitterly about bloodshed in such cultural shrines as the Theater of Dionysus at Athens. Herod sponsored gladiatorial combats at Caesarea, but there is - to the best of my knowledge - little evidence that they were ever popular in Judea.
Can you explain the Olympia in Greece and Olympos valley and Mt Chimera in SW Turkey, formerly Lycia? There is a flame that has been burning for thousands of years -- close enough to qualify as "eternal" at Mt Chimera and would be the source of the fire that burns throughout the games en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Chimaera
I'm not so sure about the ancient Olympics being primarily a religious festival. I think it was akin to our modern Christmas for the Greeks - ostensibly a religious festival, but primarily about the fun. Greeks and Romans did take their religions seriously, but their relationship with gods was very much a transactional one.
That image throughout the 2min mark confused me. Where would the main visitors gate be today? And wouldn't the road going beside the stadium on top of the hill be covering some ruins?
If there were somehow a way to make full-speed chariot races less dangerous for both man and horse, I think they would still be extremely popular in the modern age. It would be exciting and fascinating.
this is legit the cutting edge of history content on yt
Sooooo true. I wish school could arouse my interest like this channel
Reminds me of The History channel before the history aspect became history... Ya know, before shows like Monster Quest.. Rarrrrh! And Hairy Bikers.. Der!
Yep, there are very few channels that have managed Roman history well after Mike Duncan's History of Rome podcast.
@@joshallen4848 hairy bikers? wtf is that
Are you his boy lover?Is he running Pedestry up on you Joffrey?
So they already had the equivalent of F1 and UFC? I love how we as human are consistent in the things we like watching
No way dude. NASCAR 100%
We love watching repressed scared people fight like caged animals and act like anything else for our own comfort. Our species is awesome.
@@kostyapolykova9879 Are you male or female? Your first name says "male", but that "a" at the end of your last name says otherwise...
@@willcass4969 there is something different about nascar compared to other types of racing. Watching stock cars smash into each other at 190 MPH is truly something different
@@jacksonconstable8331 well he's right. Chariot racing is a lot more like NASCAR - oval track and lots of contact!
There aren't many people who can pull off delivering humor as a documentary. Well done.
The hypothetical perspective of a time traveler helps trigger my imagination. I also really appreciate that you made videos explaining Roman wages and the relative buying power of a given amount of their currency.
Keep it up, this is my favorite channel for Roman History!
Man, the strategy of immediately trying to break your opponents fingers is scummy but I imagine quite effective.
I can attest to the effectiveness. I have never lost a game of mini golf with this strategy
"Imagine yourself at the ancient Olympics..." OMG, I'm naked, and that giant reaching for my jewels must be Milo of Kroton! Curse you toldinstone, I'm not imagining this going well at all, how do you say "HELP!" in Greek?
I wouldn't know, its all Greek to me
Voithia
Ok I usually don’t comment twice but the way he said “discouraged” with every letter perfectly annunciated reeked of academic disdain. Top 10 told in stone moments for sure
6:50 still a legit move in grappling and combat sports today. Most people call this move Drop Seoi Nage as they assume it comes from Japan. Interesting how this is thought of as a Judo throwing technique but here it is being used in Wrestling. Just shows how sophisticated these combat athletes were. Amazing video 🤙
It's Ippon-Zeoi in sumo, as well. They don't come from anywhere i think, it's just the ways in which humans grapple and different cultures named them differently
Goddamn imagine using double underhooks and just dominating everyone
How can 1 youtuber be so based? Thank you.
Also im enjoying your bright orange book (it helps me find it when i leave it laying around) very very much.
This channel should have 10 times as many subscribers. C'mon RUclips, make this happen.
Dear toldinstone, your time travelers guide videos are incredible. Please keep making them when you can. i cant get enough of them, thank you
Relatively new subscriber, fellow nerd and lover of all things Greek and Roman. Just want to say thanks for making fun, low-key, informative content.
Day 2: *"C'mon, people only watch this stuff to see a chariot crash..."*
underrated comment
Best history channel on RUclips
Crawler
12 centuries! What a whopping run
Only closed down once the Roman Empire banned Pagan religion... :-/
I just want remind that as important as Olympic were Pythian games in anciet Greece! recently I was in Delphi with my camera 🎥❤
💗💗💗
I saw, beautiful 😍🌹
@@shantirelaxingmusic5285 Thanks
I’ve been to the ancient stadium track in Delphi, as well! It’s a very humbling experience to run on the same field athletes have been competing on for nearly three thousand years.
This channel deserves to have millions of followers. It’s the way the the content is presented. He’s a good guy, you can just tell.
Outstanding. I always count the days till your next post! One more month till your book is out… For those who might not know, the ubiquitous abbreviation “gym” originates from the Greek word “gymnos” meaning naked. Think of that when preparing your sports gear for a workout..
Mr fingertips sounds like an absolute legend
Best RUclips channel making content on ancient history
I am very happy to have found your channel it is a gem among gems of RUclips history channels. Keep up the good work my friend. 👍
I love history and I love your channel Dr. Ryan. I also pre-ordered your book: Naked statues and fat gladiators.I know I will devour it as soon as I get it. Can't wait. And thank you for teaching us history geeks all those incredible things from the Classical period.
This channel rocks, keep it up, this content is pure gold !!!
0:03 - I walked through that arch in 2016, it was AWESOME to be at the place of the original Olympics!
This is the kind of stuff you wish you could get on the History channel. instead we get the Pawn Stars Network.
Man I love this channel. I hope you enjoy all of the success.
Excellent, comme toujours, bravo Garreett
This is 100% my favorite channel. I hope you continue to make content for a long time. I’ll always be here watching! ❤️
What i always wondered about the ancient Romans is how much view they had into their own past. Did they have any interest in 'history'. Did that word even exist. Did they know about historical events much older than themselves that we have completely lost. Or did they on the contrary only know a few centuries before their time ?
They certainly did seem to have an interest in the history of themselves. For one, they kept highly accurate list of all the Consuls which even goes to the end of the 6th century when the Republic began. As for proper histories, we know that one of the earliest was by Cato the Elder (234-149 B.C) who wrote a history that was unique in that it covered the ancient histories of not just Rome, but of many city states throughout Italy. This has, however, been lost to time.
Some historians who cover the history of Rome from 500+ years before their time would include the famous Livy, and the more obscure Dionysius of Halicarnassus, historians are mixed as to how accurate their account of early Rome is as the shroud of legend and loss of records made the early history fairly obscure even to the Romans of the late republic/early empire.
Part of the problem is we believe many of the ancient records of Rome were burned when the Gauls sacked Rome in 390 B.C.
So to sum it all up, the Romans were definitely interested in history to a great deal (They wrote a great number of history books) but their knowledge in regards to their own history in it's earliest days was definitely vague and myth-infused.
(And yes, the word "history" as far as I'm aware, is from the Latin word "Historia" so it certainly did exist in those days)
I hope this helps a bit!
How do you think we know about ancient history with such details? With the help of Roman historians
i don't know latin, but the word for history and story are the same in Spanish
@@LutaKura History is originally greek
@@BoxStudioExecutive its also used in latin
The best 9 minutes of my day ... !
It's so satisfying to finally have so many details of ancient cultural history answered.
Definitely the type of classics I’m looking for
I love your work
I love this series. Please keep going!!
I’m so glad I found your channel right before I took my first trip into the past! My odds of surviving have increased dramatically! Woohoo!
Mark Wildman's channel touches on physique and the specific kinds of training that the ancient world did, hence why we see the way the builds were of ancient people in statues. It would be an interesting collab with you both to see his insight as a fitness trainer, and your in depth understanding of historical context to do a deep dive on the builds of the Greeks and Romans
Milo of Croton is extremely famous to anyone who has ever lifted weights: He discovered Progressive Overload (in his legend, anyway)
Forget doping scandals: the ancient Olympics once had a cannibal/werewolf scandal...
Oh, yeah, the Arcadian. How was that a scandal? Lots envy, though.
I really like your videos . Thanks for taking the time to do these - I know they aren’t easy .
12th century’s of Olympics is an incredibly long time damn
And some are surprised modern Olympics are 125 years old!
If I could time travel I would travel there for the events and travel home to sleep and eat, AND shower.
As a time traveler, I think I will be attending most of the combat sports. Thank you!
You're kind of a time traveler toldinstone 😎 where you hiding the delorean lol love your vids and research 👍
Yayyy!! Another upload!!! So happy
Great video as always! but what about Cynisca of Sparta? 1:11
Or the sisters who competed, and one won the armoured foot race.
There isn't room for nuance in a short video. But at every Olympian Games there was a seat for the priestess of Demeter, who was a married woman. It was like a marble throne set into the slope. A virgin could attend, which pretty much meant a Dorian girl, because all the Ionian and Attikaean ones were married at ten or eleven. That's because a virgin is a pallas, a nonbinary category. Think of them as honorary young men.
And of course female slaves could attend because slaves didn't fall under restrictions for full human beings.
Bought your book tonight! 👍📖👍
👍🏻 paramount narration
thanks to you Sir I think about Nero and his 10 horses in the 4 horse chariot races !
Just found your channel this is great stuff
I spent some 30 seconds staring at the entrance to the stadium at Olympia, until I realized the video was paused.
Fascinating channel!
Excellent program, as always.
It seems your history videos focus on ancient rome and greece but it would be amazing to expand to other civilizations or time periods with the time traveler perspective. The whole time traveler's guide concept is fantastic and should keep going!
*_I PRE ORDERED YOUR BOOK ON AMAZON. I HOPE WATCHING ALL YOUR VIDEOS WON'T SPOIL IT._*
Eventually, time travel will be invented, and these videos will be what we use before diving into the next dimension
Great video as always!!!
Top notch history content! I love it
Great video, i just watched the other 3 episodes
The greatest Roman content on the web.
Really enjoyed this!
But one has to note ...
The Olympics evolved and changed. Thucydides notes that within his 5th century BCE memory, competitors at Olympia still wore loincloths. Going nude was a Spartan fashion that caught on. The length of the festival was between 3 and 9 days at different times. This is because the roster of events kept growing.
Olympia kept changing. There are at least 3 major versions. The reconstruction you visit today is the Roman and late Hellenistic, Olympia III. It's major changes like building a temple where the hippodrome entry used to be sort of thing. The covered entry to the stadium, for example, is an addition of III. It wouldn't be there in 350 BCE.
Women, of certain kinds, could attend. See my reply below. Pausanias covers this in his two chapters dedicated to Olympia. People who say otherwise aren't doing proper primary source research. I suspect you are using secondary or tertiary sources here.
Part of the fun at Olympia's hippodrome is that there was a demon, Taraxippos, the Horse Scarer, only the horses could see. When it came out, teams would start panicking and they were lucky if three chariots finished.
Now, for the lady time traveller, how about shopping in Rome? Or spa day at the Baths of Caracalla?
This part 2(?) of the time travelers guide has been long overdue.
amazing content!
So glad I found this channel a while ago - it's become a great guide for my own videos - thank you!
Short and clear - nice presentation - thanks for your effort.
At 1:40 "Network television ..." = LOL!
And at 4:00 I think it is "barbeCue" - but don't take it personally pls.
Aleksandr Karelin Vs Milo of Croton could have been the greatest match up of all time, shame they lived 2600 years apart.
You're the Best Dr. Ryan! Cheers!
I'm curious about one thing. From the time of Augustus onwards, how common was it for Romans to attend the games? It must have seemed pretty tame to what they could watch for free in the Flavian Amphitheatre for example. And I imagine the average upper class Roman who could afford to travel baulking at 'primitive latrines' and no baths. And, to quote Agrippina in "I Claudius" - "I don't know, I'm just not comfortable with all this nudity".
We don't know about the numbers of Romans who traveled to Olympia, but in general the Romans never really took to Greek athletics - not least, as you suggest, because they just weren't as exciting as Roman-style gladiatorial matches and chariot races. Nero celebrated the Neronia festival in Rome twice, each time with both athletic and artistic events inspired by Greek models. These failed to survive Nero himself, but Domitian's Capitoline Greek Games (held in the stadium that would eventually become the Piazza Navona) proved more durable. As far as we can tell, however, they were never very popular.
@@toldinstone Much as I suspected. The Romans would have loved the Super Bowl. Cricket at Lord's, not so much.
Great 👍
The subtitles are more interesting than the video ...seriously its magical
Must be awesome seeing this for real tbh.
"The practical time traveler" - is there any other kind?
So they held the Do or Die (literally) chariot races on the 2nd day, and the Mixed Grill BBQ (sacrifice) on the 3rd? Have a feeling I know what the majority of the meat was at the BBQ. As usual, sir, brilliant video. Now I know what days to aim for in the future (sorry, Past) :)
Brilliant
Wow, a few rosy illusions shattered.
Implementing a return to the naked Olympics might just get me to care about the Olympics again.
As a runner, I really wish we could know the sort of times they were running back then!
thx for this sidereal adjunct to the time traveler's series--an ancient game w/holy origins . . .
I’m sure the ancient games never went $20+ billion over budget either
Nothing wrong with a bit of intestine on a stick!
you had me at naked gladiators.
or was that statues
Your channel is a goldmine. Classical Greece > ancient rome >:)
I wonder how modern day boxers would fair against the boxers of the ancient Olympics.
@@harorider96 It's a myth that everyone was really small in past centuries, they weren't necessarily that different to now
@@harorider96 you do know we have weight classes today
The IOC should return to these roots to somewhat repair their reputation.
Got your book
I was wondering if I could ask you the 'flip side' of my earlier question? If the Romans weren't into the Hellenic idea of games showcasing human strength and skills, how did the Greeks - the Hellenic world - view the Roman games? I imagine they could enjoy Roman chariot races but specifically, how would the average educated, upper-class Greek in the Roman Empire feel about gladiatorial combats, beast fights or innovative ways to execute criminals in public? Did cities in Greece, the Aegean and Asia Minor from, say, the time of Augustus onwards have arenas, Roman style? Did they construct arenas in occupied Israel/Judea/Samaria? The Jewish faith had and has so many proscriptions about blood I can't imagine they would have flocked to watch.
Gladiatorial games became fairly widespread in the culturally Greek provinces. Amphitheaters were rare, but many theaters were retrofitted to handle gladiators and beast hunts. Roman-style games, however, always controversial; Greek intellectuals like Dio Chrysostom and Plutarch complain bitterly about bloodshed in such cultural shrines as the Theater of Dionysus at Athens. Herod sponsored gladiatorial combats at Caesarea, but there is - to the best of my knowledge - little evidence that they were ever popular in Judea.
Hellenized Jews built gymnasiums and participated in a variety of athletic activities such as wrestling.
@@deewesthill4705 Correct! I've even read that a lot of them put on 'fake' foreskins so as to fit in with the Greeks and Romans who went there too.
@@cerberus6654 😄
I wonder how popular the games where in ancient times?
For women, are there beard vendors on site?
"Are there any WOMEN here today?"
Me when the told in stone guy breaks channel lore and continuity by setting A Time Traveler’s Guide to Ancient Rome in Greece😂😂
Can you explain the Olympia in Greece and Olympos valley and Mt Chimera in SW Turkey, formerly Lycia? There is a flame that has been burning for thousands of years -- close enough to qualify as "eternal" at Mt Chimera and would be the source of the fire that burns throughout the games
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Chimaera
So bring Imodium for the 3rd day. Gotcha.
The only thing that would get me interested in the modern Olympics would be if nudity returned.
Caught in 4k
Don't forget the Pankration that was won by a dead man!
I'm not so sure about the ancient Olympics being primarily a religious festival. I think it was akin to our modern Christmas for the Greeks - ostensibly a religious festival, but primarily about the fun. Greeks and Romans did take their religions seriously, but their relationship with gods was very much a transactional one.
..."a nudist Kentucky derby "...🤪🤣🤣🤣
The stall food would be great we'll except for field mice in fish sauce 🤣🤣
original Olympiad, where serius true professionals pushed it to the limits.I wish i could see that........damn
That image throughout the 2min mark confused me. Where would the main visitors gate be today? And wouldn't the road going beside the stadium on top of the hill be covering some ruins?
Was the boxing more dangerous than the chariot race?
Is there reception or do you just show up to the arena? Are there any possibilities of crime or shady stuff going on in the tent camps?
Oh boy cart racing and the combat sports like they where held in these times would be the most popular sports if practiced like that today.
If there were somehow a way to make full-speed chariot races less dangerous for both man and horse, I think they would still be extremely popular in the modern age. It would be exciting and fascinating.
Crude latrines.. Sounds good to me!
Mr. Fingertips scares the daylight out of me.