He likely went back and visited his dog, assuming the likelihood he lives a closer distance than New Guinea .he also would have gone back home a few times to visit at least one or two loved ones from his previous life because he missed them .
The decades idea makes a lot more sense than years to me. I mean, in theory, it only takes 3-5 years to get your PhD-- but that implies you have full access to your notes, etc. Sara doesn't just have to //learn// quantum physics-- she has to memorize her progress every day. I'd need probably more than a decade for that kind of thing.
@@notimportant3686 Exactly!! A nobodny seems to be talking about is that he should have Perfectly known in which room Sara was after that much time so he could have found her on the 2nd day. And yeah, she didn' t show up more than 2 weeks later. She didn't have to study a PhD or 5 years. She only had to figure out that there was a 3 sec interval
@@PLANETRANS What if she woke up at 6:30am and he wakes up at 7:00am every morning. She could have 30 minutes to leave before he even wakes up. It wouldn't matter if he knows what room she wakes up in. Several times in the movie she is dressed and waking him up.
I went in this movie blind so the time loop didn't cement to me until the dance scene which was perfection. The speech made me suspicious but my initial impression was a man who was severely depressed. At the end I am happy to have gone in knowing nothing (thanks to my wife and her friend who picked it while I got us food) and find that is was a sublime take on the idea of time loop that exceeds Groundhog Day.
I wonder what would happen if she were to repeat that day for infinite number of times. She still remembers her mother dying when she was at a young age so she still hasn’t forgotten everything but she will eventually.
Absolutely nothing to indicate the old lady stumbled into the desert and into that cave in the afternoon of that day, which would be necessary to get stuck in that day... plus the granma would have zero idea that sarah had a way out that particular day, even if she knew she was in a loop. The "probably be leaving now" line was in regards to the fact that her entire family thought of her as a mess and screw up that needed to be taken care off even though she didn't want the help and didn't want to be there. The words just caught her off guard and resonated differently with her because she had matured and she had decided that dead or alive she was leaving the loop.
@@robertballew9890 but he seems to be a pacifist. He wasn’t good at fighting and Roy wasn’t exposed to much pain because he only recently became aware of the pain he put through Nyles. Even though Roy regularly hunted him Nyles probably preferred escaping or just excepting punishment without retribution.
@@Tripepdipep not regularly. Roy didn’t come around all the time. Nyles wouldn’t think about Roy that often so when he did show up, it would be an inconvenience, which is how he acts at the beginning when we first see him getting shot with the arrows. Plus being a terror to people that reset would be a lot easier than doing it to someone who remembers it. Which is what roy tells him when he goes to visit him. And what he tells sarah before their breakup.
You have to suspend disbelief that Sarah studied for a very long time. There’s no way Nyles would have not found her or that she would not have taken 1 day off and hung around. Another thought, after living in the same day with no consequences for decades, it would probably be very scary to break the loop and move on to a new day
It's brilliant and tragic and haunting, especially Sara's situation. The night she slept with Nyles, she wakes up in her future brother in law's room, with all the shame that went with that mistake. She had lived for years inside the loop, but the two sex acts were literally less than 24 hours apart chronologically.
I felt that Nyles was probably there a hundred years before Sara accidentally got stuck with him. It's more tragic that way and it's a godawful fate, isn't it. "I don't want tomorrow to be today, I want tomorrow to be tomorrow." Just a brilliant film. It is now my favorite film of all time. I've watched it at least a half a dozen times. It is tragic, it is sweet, funny, charming, thoughtful, provocative, and, in the end, it is profoundly hopeful and uplifting. Hats off to Andy, Cristin, and everyone involved in the movie. Can we again acknowledge that J. K. Simons is a freaking national treasure. That ending! He was a real bonus to the movie.
Being stuck in a time loop like they are is crazy. In Groundhogs Day, Phil was unable to leave Punxsutawney because of the bad snow storm. They are at least allowed to go where ever. So let's say I was stuck in a time loop starting tomorrow morning, I would forever skip work, take a road trip somewhere, or fly someone new every day so long I stay awake. I have enough money on my credit card that I can blow through it all in one day, and essentially reset every morning, I wouldn't even need to fly or drive back, I'd just die and reset. I'd visit my family every few days wherever they are. Remember they can go into the next day, long they stay awake. Each day somewhere new till I travelled the entire world. Never running out of money, and never aging. I'd give it 150 years before it gets old, maybe longer.
I think sarah studied for several months, maybe 4-5. She didn't have to deal with all quantum physics, it was enough to focus on time loops. In that time Nyles looked for her, discover where she was sleeping by accident and he became a little resigned. When they finally meet, it doesn't seem like a few years without seing each other, just few months. But it is very weird idea to me that Nyles realy forgot where he was working. How did he not remember that, when he remembered about the dog for example?
The dog is easy. The neighbor was watching him and he could’ve just as easily checked in on him from time to time while stuck in the loop, like he probably did his family. But who the hell is going to check in on their job. When i got to that scene, i tried remembering where i worked at while in college 20 years ago and I’m honestly struggling with it for the simple fact that I hadn’t thought about it for 2 decades.
I think he just didn’t want to talk about it because he was already so nihilistic that it did not matter anymore and maybe als he did not want to talk about the past to avoid pain
Well it wouldn’t really be real life anymore. Nothing can grow and I think eventually being stuck there would become somewhat of a prison. Forget the fact that no one except you remembers.
40+ years trapped in the same day... that sounds like hell. You couldn't even commit suicide as an escape if you wanted to... That literally sounds like hell
would depend on your resources. If you have a private jet and lots of money (even if it meant blowing your savings) you could get pretty far in a day and do a lot of things. With the internet and streaming services you can literally listen to and watch every movie in existence at the time of the day...so it would probably take a long time to make it hell...if you have the right resources.
@@genericfuton7750yes but at a certain point regardless they would reach their moment of hell because after however many years or thousands of years or even centuries it would become very boring very quick and just become hell
he spent maybe a few years (3, 5, 9) she spent a couple months.... she learned quantum physics at movie speed, not real world speed... they show here studying day after day and them having no interactions at all during that time.... but when she finally wakes him up on the day she is ready to leave, they don't act like they didn't see each other for a decade.... it was days to very few months... look she was looking for answers for a narrow circumstance, people act like she had to learn the entire sum of quantum physics.... that is not the case... i don't have to learn all of plumbing to find out how to fix a specific type of leak
@@josegustavo. you may be right about her but 4-5 years for him? He couldn’t have forgotten his job in that short amount of time. As for how he remembered his dog and his name is probably because he visits him often and the neighbor that takes care of his dog knows the dogs name.
We've seen movies like this and groundhog day where one person (or a few like in this movie) repeat every day but it would be interesting to see a movie where EVERYONE is repeating the same day and how society changes because of this and how people work together to find a way out. If the same day repeated for an entire society, would we see more crime knowing that things would eventually reset? Would there still be a core group of people dedicated to retaining order or would they just say screw it and live hedonistically -- This is a different play on immortality where everything resets at midnight (or as some exact time) but different in a lot of ways as well. I think it would make for a very entertaining movie -- could be comedy, drama, horror, etc. -- lots of possibilities.
Was just about to comment that, 9 mins of fluff theorising before saying the writer confirmed lol. But I guess the point was to explore how it had reached such high numbers
Because it’s a fucking video explaining the movie and how they reached that conclusion. Did you just want a five second video saying 40 years and then it’s done? Seriously. Why even click the video if you’re just gonna bitch about a free ten minute video being too long.
To have as much knowledge and timing he has of everything, I would say he was in for at least 10,000 years, maybe millions.... Maybe that is what the dinosaurs represent.
the human mind wouldn't be able to take it. He would go insane and probably be a screeching mental case every day. I think it has to be long enough to have completely lost hope but not so long as to be driven to madness
Phil in Groundhog Day was said to have been stuck in the loop for 10,000 years. Supposedly an allegory for how long it took Buda to find true enlightenment.
The math showed on this video doesn't track, mostly because it doesn't factor in any sort of 'downtime': relationships happen organically and even if the character would be obsessed with learning about every one's lives it could take 3 days with some yes, but likely longer with others as we all know there are people we don't get along so it would definitely take longer with those. Same goes for studying: even if she were a very hardworking student it would likely take longer to learn without tutoring rather than quicker. Plus as far as I can remember she was never shown to be a nerdy type and we've all being there: whenever we get a book assignment we're not into it, we would procrastinate the hell out of it so imagine how it would be to learn physics without tutoring. But also how long would it take someone to try to get out of the situation before getting insanely bored with the repetition to then progress to depression and only then start trying to kill himself - repeatedly! - to eventually give up and go on try to use it to amuse himself. I would also argue against the memory lapse pointed out on the video: mentally healthy people could take more than decades to forget something important on their lives - perhaps not forgetting at all - but in this case the character would likely have gone insane after a few years specially after trying to kill himself as the memory of dying probably was still there (he does remember trying to kill himself after all those years so I'd assume it was traumatizing). So yeah, a few decades trapped there possibly under 100 years and over 30 years so quite a big margin there...
@@PLANETRANS you are not considering the time spent getting the tutor up to speed of her current knowledge not to mention the time spent for introductions and persuasion which is not realistic on the movie. But yeah I admit I had forgotten that she did seek help…
In the end she literally just got explosives to "exceed the energy" of the loop causing opening or what ever. Yes, she is using fancy books and words. But it all came down to being brave and driven with the experiments, I feel. She had a rare opportunity to test around with the cave. Of course, it takes time to get to know the theories but she needed to focus on the time (loop) theories. There can't be too much of them...
Sarah didn't show that she was a genius in any way. To achieve what she did as far as research goes would take at least a decade, more likely 12-15 years.
Doesn't require a decade. If she studied day in, day out, she could get to that level in months to a few years. No genius required. Just a drive to learn.
@@supreme84x Right? I was a little confused when they only added a day for that one. I was pretty sure the implication was he stayed awake as long as possible and got as far away as possible and even that didn't snap him out of the loop.
It's actually pretty smart how the time loop thing is already implied since that much information is given in the trailer with some of the details like sarah getting caught an aspect to anticipate while atching the film. Other film gets to feel redundant due to the trailer and most often than not, trailers would spoil more than half fo the film and sometimes straight up the ending.
The bar dance would realistically take a year to learn to that level with the timing, what they can do with out getting a violent reaction from any one in the bar, ect... Even him moving through the dance floor at the beginning would take at least a year to have gotten down that smooth. I also think that this assumption that it only takes 3 days to get to know any one person at the wedding and apparently everyone with in a reasonable distance of at least a 50 mile radius is off. That would take at least a month on average.
The goat she sent into the cave strapped with c4 was removed from the timeline and the "day" entirely, it was gone. But during the credits, Roy finds a completely clueless Nyles at the wedding, shouldn't he be removed from the "day" also?
I thought this to until I heard what Sarah says to Niles when he asks if the whole goat thing was a lie right before they blow themselves up. ”It’s to late now anyway”. I think she did find the goat back in the loop the next day but believed in her research enough to try it for herself since she could not definitivly know if the goat got out or not.
@@HannesDahl Yeah the Goat is still there and she may have observed the goat's behavior acted differently after when she put the goat under the looping situation and then exited the loop by blowing up. That's how she came to the conclusion that the looped goat was no longer present and that the normal goat was acting... well normally.
I assumed while watching that it took her months to learn the physics, maybe years. She seems to be at or above the same level of intellect of the Skype guy and I’m assuming he some Dr in his field
Palm springs was one best recent films, it's is kinda similar to groundhog day but palm springs is equally as groundhog day both of had great cast and it's funny.
This video is a fiercely original riff on WhatCulture's very first video, "How Long Does Bill Murray Spend In Groundhog Day?" But whaddya mean "oversaturated time loop genre?" There's only one other one I can think of, and that's Groundhog Day. If it were oversaturated, you'd be able to think of... let's say for argument's sake, 5 other examples.
I would have thought the amount of years passed would be pushing at least a million considering Nyles and Sarah saw dinosaurs roaming while they were camping
I'd love to be in a time loop for only 10 or so years though. Just enough time to have a little bit of fun and not hurt anyone by it, including myself.
One of the crazy parts about 40 years in a timeloop is you would definitely stop fearing repercussions… the amount of insane or down right terrible crimes he probably tried at some point mustve been insane.
Know the timing of every person on a dance floor the time of the cave opening the earthquake happening and being able to quote every single person would take atleast a century as well as adding countless days of him not observing and just messing around
I remember street dog from 30 years ago,how he looked and what his name was , and he wasnt even around that much. My grandma used to feed him when he shows up and then he disappears.
@@kenjoi9413 what are you talking about? I’m saying her learning physics at that level alone would have taken years. Not even going into everything else they did. Of course she’s ageless, they both are, since they’re stuck in the time loop.
Makes sense. He said he forgot what he did for a living before getting stuck. I think it would take me about that same time to forget almost everything of my life.
As novel as it is to speculate, I feel like this is kind of the wrong question for this kind of film. In fact, I'd say that technical matters like this in film are the least important aspect. It's like asking which super-strong superhero could beat the other in a brawl. It's an utterly subjective question. The answer is always "whichever one I like more." But more importantly, these technicalities are utterly beside the point of a story, just as how a character gets from place to place between cut scenes, or when they go to the bathroom, is beside the point. I find the fact that people wonder about these things at all a bit baffling.
I still don’t understand why they didn’t just somehow convince a quantum science person to get to the cave then drag them in? Immoral yes but after watching the movie passenger people do break! The idea never came across him after 40 years or so? But depression and denial are real so that does count, but 40 years WOW
He literally tells you why, in the movie... he took Roy there before he had totally snapped, and it completely backfired on him so he swore he'd never do it again. Who the hell wants multiple people hunting you and torturing you?
@@TAKTAK_Toys I was wondering why RUclips was showing previews for Boss Level despite it coming out months ago. For an action film, it's pretty awesome.
I don't think you can learn Quantum Physics in three years. Or be an expert at leasr. I think Nyles was in there for at least a century. But that is just me.
You wouldn't be "earning" anything. Your research goes about as far as it did that day and you'll just be another nerd on the internet without an actual diploma.
Are there really people that think she mastered quantum physics and performed only 1 successful experiment before escaping in a little under 2 weeks? I thought the intent was pretty clearly she starts learning advanced physics over an extended time.
I know what the guy is saying in the video. But Nyles not being the smartest of the smartest. Just another guy led by his urges is speaking peoples dialogues. The dance seen. Knowing every in and out of what Sarah is going through , we’ll it just implies to me centuries. Years upon years drinking with no lasting effect to go otherwise. Imagine how much an addict would love to shoot up heroin and always have enough for one day and no bad consequences…. Got stuck in a loop. Drinking a lifetime away but loving the little world that he is in so years upon years pass and he intimately and deeply know almost everyone in his little world. That’s the plausible guess from me.
If you manage to get out of the time loop it still leaves a copy of you that is not you(?) OR alternate reality you(?)...but anyways..what If that copy follows in the cave again? You get stuck again even though your life is for ex. 10y later in the real world?
Essentially, for this movie, each related day is an alternative timeline your conscience moves to. When your conscience escapes the loop, there is no more conscience to move across timelines. As such, the existing conscience in a timeline will not be affected.
how doesnt Sarah really know about Niles though; if he's dating the blonde chick,... how doesn't Sarah know anything about him or why doesnt he ask the blonde chick like hey when did we meet, and where, and what did i say i did for work etc etc ...
Presuming based on the blond chick’s behavior is that she is also in-and-out of relationships. Unless she has been with one guy for a while, the family doesn’t care getting to know the boyfriend as they don’t last.
Quantum Physics is complicated for people who study regular Physics (can confirm), and Nyles lacked the motivation Sarah did to overcome that steep hill. Secondly, most people would consider magical or karmic solutions to such a problem long before they attempt Science.
@@reniervandermerwe Um.... that's what I said. Most people wouldn't even consider a scientific means to end the loop, such as Nyles. I was quite surprised that Sarah went that route. But she could draw on Nyles's lack of success and try different opinions; which he had lacked a new perspective to attempt an escape.
@@sheridanroad2001 no you said he lacked motivation..... Thats different than not knowing a way out lol. So if my car breaks and i don't know how to fix it then its lack of motivation? Damn man.... yOu aRe So SmArT
Too bad this movie had limited budget. When i started watching i thought i was going to see a Groundhog Day on steroids. Still it was a fairly fun, nice movie.
First saw this movie I was shocked few quotes said in movie hit home when I had them used in my theory for Cal tech pro. Where dust and emf show proof of past and present and I used to go to moron to cuz it was 18 n over not 21! But was said my life will forward at the dinosaur park right next to palm springs. Same day was a fire a d earth quake and same people at the casino haha
What do you honestly think heaven would be like? You have an eternity. Mind wipe every day? or something like this film? In which way would you be able to keep your sanity?
Palm Springs is sort of Jewish Groundhog Day Sarah is played by Cristin Milioti an Italian, but she looks Jewish enough. The curse was placed by Mel Brooks and Andy Sandburg is the Catskills comic hired for the wedding. "HELLO? I'm dyin' up here!" And where ELSE would a Jewish couple get stuck in a curse placed by Mel Brooks? Florida, New York City's escape hatch.
@@brayanrodriguez5841 To answer your question "Fans?" If you are unsure about what a fan is here is a quick rundown: It can mean many things such as an apparatus with rotating blades that creates a current of air for cooling or ventilation, or a handheld semi-circle that extends to also be used for cooling. It can also mean to blow on something gently or slang for missing in baseball. Most of the definitions originate from the latin word vannus, which then became fann and fannian in old english and eventually just fan in modern day. To what you said about "I mean come on get a real job," Kohl's is an example of a multi-billion dollar company that sells fans among other things, so it is a real job, and a great sum of money if you were to be the CEO.
He does remember he has a dog though. I wouldn’t forget my hound after 40 years either.
Well Fred is a shaggy dog after all 🤣
this is after they leave the loop
Lmao after 40 years the madness of being stuck in the situation would relieve you of your doggy memories.
“One of them shaggy dogs”
He likely went back and visited his dog, assuming the likelihood he lives a closer distance than New Guinea .he also would have gone back home a few times to visit at least one or two loved ones from his previous life because he missed them .
The decades idea makes a lot more sense than years to me. I mean, in theory, it only takes 3-5 years to get your PhD-- but that implies you have full access to your notes, etc. Sara doesn't just have to //learn// quantum physics-- she has to memorize her progress every day. I'd need probably more than a decade for that kind of thing.
no way... she did that in literal days.... when she woke him up they did not act like they didn't see each other in a decade
@@notimportant3686 Exactly!! A nobodny seems to be talking about is that he should have Perfectly known in which room Sara was after that much time so he could have found her on the 2nd day. And yeah, she didn' t show up more than 2 weeks later. She didn't have to study a PhD or 5 years. She only had to figure out that there was a 3 sec interval
@@PLANETRANS she could've left the room each morning before he got there
@@PLANETRANS What if she woke up at 6:30am and he wakes up at 7:00am every morning. She could have 30 minutes to leave before he even wakes up. It wouldn't matter if he knows what room she wakes up in. Several times in the movie she is dressed and waking him up.
@@PLANETRANS she wakes up before him
I went in this movie blind so the time loop didn't cement to me until the dance scene which was perfection. The speech made me suspicious but my initial impression was a man who was severely depressed. At the end I am happy to have gone in knowing nothing (thanks to my wife and her friend who picked it while I got us food) and find that is was a sublime take on the idea of time loop that exceeds Groundhog Day.
NOTHING EXCEEDS GROUNDHOG DAY!!! but... (ellipsis) it was a pretty darn good movie gotta say! :P
What about the gran, she drops hints that she is also in the time loop and aware of it!
Yeah, also that she knew Sarah was going to leave....maybe she's ill and wants to stay in the loop.
@@nakkadu that’s a good theory!
I wonder what would happen if she were to repeat that day for infinite number of times. She still remembers her mother dying when she was at a young age so she still hasn’t forgotten everything but she will eventually.
Absolutely nothing to indicate the old lady stumbled into the desert and into that cave in the afternoon of that day, which would be necessary to get stuck in that day... plus the granma would have zero idea that sarah had a way out that particular day, even if she knew she was in a loop. The "probably be leaving now" line was in regards to the fact that her entire family thought of her as a mess and screw up that needed to be taken care off even though she didn't want the help and didn't want to be there. The words just caught her off guard and resonated differently with her because she had matured and she had decided that dead or alive she was leaving the loop.
@@zimvader25 well put
I like to imagine that the movie only touches on a fraction of his days. I feel like he was in there for hundreds or even thousands.
The original script of "groundhogs day" had homey trapped for about 10,000 years
Same here. And it actually would make sense.
Wonder if Nyles ever murdered the entire wedding party and staff...
a few thousand times I'm sure
He did say he spent some time being everyone reason for fear or terror when they were arrested
@@robertballew9890 lol I forgot he said that
@@robertballew9890 but he seems to be a pacifist. He wasn’t good at fighting and Roy wasn’t exposed to much pain because he only recently became aware of the pain he put through Nyles. Even though Roy regularly hunted him Nyles probably preferred escaping or just excepting punishment without retribution.
@@Tripepdipep not regularly. Roy didn’t come around all the time. Nyles wouldn’t think about Roy that often so when he did show up, it would be an inconvenience, which is how he acts at the beginning when we first see him getting shot with the arrows. Plus being a terror to people that reset would be a lot easier than doing it to someone who remembers it. Which is what roy tells him when he goes to visit him. And what he tells sarah before their breakup.
Great movie, the interaction at the dance with people that are unaware of him is hilarious.
You have to suspend disbelief that Sarah studied for a very long time. There’s no way Nyles would have not found her or that she would not have taken 1 day off and hung around. Another thought, after living in the same day with no consequences for decades, it would probably be very scary to break the loop and move on to a new day
It's brilliant and tragic and haunting, especially Sara's situation. The night she slept with Nyles, she wakes up in her future brother in law's room, with all the shame that went with that mistake. She had lived for years inside the loop, but the two sex acts were literally less than 24 hours apart chronologically.
Great film, well worth a watch to anyone who hasn’t seen it
I felt that Nyles was probably there a hundred years before Sara accidentally got stuck with him. It's more tragic that way and it's a godawful fate, isn't it.
"I don't want tomorrow to be today, I want tomorrow to be tomorrow."
Just a brilliant film. It is now my favorite film of all time. I've watched it at least a half a dozen times. It is tragic, it is sweet, funny, charming, thoughtful, provocative, and, in the end, it is profoundly hopeful and uplifting. Hats off to Andy, Cristin, and everyone involved in the movie.
Can we again acknowledge that J. K. Simons is a freaking national treasure. That ending! He was a real bonus to the movie.
Being stuck in a time loop like they are is crazy. In Groundhogs Day, Phil was unable to leave Punxsutawney because of the bad snow storm. They are at least allowed to go where ever. So let's say I was stuck in a time loop starting tomorrow morning, I would forever skip work, take a road trip somewhere, or fly someone new every day so long I stay awake. I have enough money on my credit card that I can blow through it all in one day, and essentially reset every morning, I wouldn't even need to fly or drive back, I'd just die and reset. I'd visit my family every few days wherever they are. Remember they can go into the next day, long they stay awake. Each day somewhere new till I travelled the entire world. Never running out of money, and never aging. I'd give it 150 years before it gets old, maybe longer.
I think sarah studied for several months, maybe 4-5. She didn't have to deal with all quantum physics, it was enough to focus on time loops. In that time Nyles looked for her, discover where she was sleeping by accident and he became a little resigned. When they finally meet, it doesn't seem like a few years without seing each other, just few months.
But it is very weird idea to me that Nyles realy forgot where he was working. How did he not remember that, when he remembered about the dog for example?
Maybe he regularly visits his dog?
The dog is easy. The neighbor was watching him and he could’ve just as easily checked in on him from time to time while stuck in the loop, like he probably did his family. But who the hell is going to check in on their job. When i got to that scene, i tried remembering where i worked at while in college 20 years ago and I’m honestly struggling with it for the simple fact that I hadn’t thought about it for 2 decades.
I think he just didn’t want to talk about it because he was already so nihilistic that it did not matter anymore and maybe als he did not want to talk about the past to avoid pain
I agree, I think it was a few weeks or months that she was gone.
If I were there for 40 years like Nyles, I would have lost my mind!
Yah are really underestimating how hard it is to understand quantum physics
I think this loop would be fun. I mean, drinking, swimming, partying, and trying to sleep with everyone... how is that different from real life goals?
Well it wouldn’t really be real life anymore. Nothing can grow and I think eventually being stuck there would become somewhat of a prison. Forget the fact that no one except you remembers.
I would love to be stuck in a loop with Sarah!!!!
@@myshcoolaccount yeh but you’d be like a god in that so called prison.
@@im2goodm839 it would be fun the first few decades but the repetition would eventually wear you out.
Imagine how it would be 100 years after it started. 1000. 1 billion. 100 trillion. Still think it would be fun?
40+ years trapped in the same day... that sounds like hell. You couldn't even commit suicide as an escape if you wanted to... That literally sounds like hell
would depend on your resources. If you have a private jet and lots of money (even if it meant blowing your savings) you could get pretty far in a day and do a lot of things. With the internet and streaming services you can literally listen to and watch every movie in existence at the time of the day...so it would probably take a long time to make it hell...if you have the right resources.
guess you just won the oscar of the "Most obvious comment"
depends on the day
@@genericfuton7750yes but at a certain point regardless they would reach their moment of hell because after however many years or thousands of years or even centuries it would become very boring very quick and just become hell
What about the "Happy 1 Millionth Birthday" party scene? That's potentially 365 million days.
I think that was just a joke.
he spent maybe a few years (3, 5, 9) she spent a couple months.... she learned quantum physics at movie speed, not real world speed... they show here studying day after day and them having no interactions at all during that time.... but when she finally wakes him up on the day she is ready to leave, they don't act like they didn't see each other for a decade.... it was days to very few months... look she was looking for answers for a narrow circumstance, people act like she had to learn the entire sum of quantum physics.... that is not the case... i don't have to learn all of plumbing to find out how to fix a specific type of leak
yup
I agrede with this. He spent like 4-5 years and She spent a few months maybe a year to learn QF.
@@josegustavo. I disagree
@@josegustavo. you may be right about her but 4-5 years for him? He couldn’t have forgotten his job in that short amount of time.
As for how he remembered his dog and his name is probably because he visits him often and the neighbor that takes care of his dog knows the dogs name.
We've seen movies like this and groundhog day where one person (or a few like in this movie) repeat every day but it would be interesting to see a movie where EVERYONE is repeating the same day and how society changes because of this and how people work together to find a way out.
If the same day repeated for an entire society, would we see more crime knowing that things would eventually reset? Would there still be a core group of people dedicated to retaining order or would they just say screw it and live hedonistically -- This is a different play on immortality where everything resets at midnight (or as some exact time) but different in a lot of ways as well. I think it would make for a very entertaining movie -- could be comedy, drama, horror, etc. -- lots of possibilities.
How do you know we aren't doing that right now
@@LegendEaterPSR nice thought but easily dismissed: seasons/weather changes show that we arent.
I loved this film. I will watch anything with Cristin and/or Andy... and this just nails it.
So it's 40 years before she shows up and then another 10 years before they break out.
That is more than 40!
@@skaetur1 That's not more than 8.159 x 10^47.
Why does it take almost 11 mins to say “the writer says over 40 years”
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Was just about to comment that, 9 mins of fluff theorising before saying the writer confirmed lol. But I guess the point was to explore how it had reached such high numbers
@@shilliojr Sometimes you want an itemized receipt 😄
Because it’s a fucking video explaining the movie and how they reached that conclusion. Did you just want a five second video saying 40 years and then it’s done? Seriously. Why even click the video if you’re just gonna bitch about a free ten minute video being too long.
@@newthrash1221 that would have sufficed, yes.
To have as much knowledge and timing he has of everything, I would say he was in for at least 10,000 years, maybe millions.... Maybe that is what the dinosaurs represent.
the human mind wouldn't be able to take it. He would go insane and probably be a screeching mental case every day. I think it has to be long enough to have completely lost hope but not so long as to be driven to madness
Phil in Groundhog Day was said to have been stuck in the loop for 10,000 years. Supposedly an allegory for how long it took Buda to find true enlightenment.
Watched this last night. A good take on a familiar genre.
It's a great genre, love time loop films!
Edge Of Tomorrow and Happy Death Day 1+2 are awesome.
The math showed on this video doesn't track, mostly because it doesn't factor in any sort of 'downtime': relationships happen organically and even if the character would be obsessed with learning about every one's lives it could take 3 days with some yes, but likely longer with others as we all know there are people we don't get along so it would definitely take longer with those.
Same goes for studying: even if she were a very hardworking student it would likely take longer to learn without tutoring rather than quicker.
Plus as far as I can remember she was never shown to be a nerdy type and we've all being there: whenever we get a book assignment we're not into it, we would procrastinate the hell out of it so imagine how it would be to learn physics without tutoring.
But also how long would it take someone to try to get out of the situation before getting insanely bored with the repetition to then progress to depression and only then start trying to kill himself - repeatedly! - to eventually give up and go on try to use it to amuse himself.
I would also argue against the memory lapse pointed out on the video: mentally healthy people could take more than decades to forget something important on their lives - perhaps not forgetting at all - but in this case the character would likely have gone insane after a few years specially after trying to kill himself as the memory of dying probably was still there (he does remember trying to kill himself after all those years so I'd assume it was traumatizing).
So yeah, a few decades trapped there possibly under 100 years and over 30 years so quite a big margin there...
without Tutoring? She was speaking with a scientist and might have conversed with many others so seems like a lot of actual tutoring to me
@@PLANETRANS you are not considering the time spent getting the tutor up to speed of her current knowledge not to mention the time spent for introductions and persuasion which is not realistic on the movie.
But yeah I admit I had forgotten that she did seek help…
In the end she literally just got explosives to "exceed the energy" of the loop causing opening or what ever.
Yes, she is using fancy books and words. But it all came down to being brave and driven with the experiments, I feel. She had a rare opportunity to test around with the cave.
Of course, it takes time to get to know the theories but she needed to focus on the time (loop) theories. There can't be too much of them...
Sarah didn't show that she was a genius in any way. To achieve what she did as far as research goes would take at least a decade, more likely 12-15 years.
Doesn't require a decade. If she studied day in, day out, she could get to that level in months to a few years. No genius required. Just a drive to learn.
5:12 This would not be a single day. But rather multiple days. Smoking a shit ton of crack will keep you up. So add a week for that adventure.
@@supreme84x Right? I was a little confused when they only added a day for that one. I was pretty sure the implication was he stayed awake as long as possible and got as far away as possible and even that didn't snap him out of the loop.
@@courto1308 Yes. So they should have added the amount of time a normal human can stay awake before they die.
And yet the end solution was incredibly simple!
I'll have to check this movie out! I've never even heard of it.
It's on Hulu and it was absolutely amazing.
It's actually pretty smart how the time loop thing is already implied since that much information is given in the trailer with some of the details like sarah getting caught an aspect to anticipate while atching the film. Other film gets to feel redundant due to the trailer and most often than not, trailers would spoil more than half fo the film and sometimes straight up the ending.
The better question is where were they able to get C-4 explosive?
It's unsure, but they had a literal eternity to figure out where to get it, and had an unlimited amount of attempts.
I think they have it from spudd. I mean he had a rocket launcher and many guns and stuff like that.
You missed Spud, huh?
The bar dance would realistically take a year to learn to that level with the timing, what they can do with out getting a violent reaction from any one in the bar, ect... Even him moving through the dance floor at the beginning would take at least a year to have gotten down that smooth.
I also think that this assumption that it only takes 3 days to get to know any one person at the wedding and apparently everyone with in a reasonable distance of at least a 50 mile radius is off. That would take at least a month on average.
The goat she sent into the cave strapped with c4 was removed from the timeline and the "day" entirely, it was gone. But during the credits, Roy finds a completely clueless Nyles at the wedding, shouldn't he be removed from the "day" also?
I thought this to until I heard what Sarah says to Niles when he asks if the whole goat thing was a lie right before they blow themselves up. ”It’s to late now anyway”. I think she did find the goat back in the loop the next day but believed in her research enough to try it for herself since she could not definitivly know if the goat got out or not.
@@HannesDahl Yeah the Goat is still there and she may have observed the goat's behavior acted differently after when she put the goat under the looping situation and then exited the loop by blowing up. That's how she came to the conclusion that the looped goat was no longer present and that the normal goat was acting... well normally.
I assumed while watching that it took her months to learn the physics, maybe years. She seems to be at or above the same level of intellect of the Skype guy and I’m assuming he some Dr in his field
I like that Nyles doesnt remember his job or life before the loop but the does remember his dog
Good movie
Definitely liked this movie I should watch it again soon
Palm springs was one best recent films, it's is kinda similar to groundhog day but palm springs is equally as groundhog day both of had great cast and it's funny.
But, the REAL question, was Nana in the loop too? Thoughts?
This video is a fiercely original riff on WhatCulture's very first video, "How Long Does Bill Murray Spend In Groundhog Day?"
But whaddya mean "oversaturated time loop genre?" There's only one other one I can think of, and that's Groundhog Day. If it were oversaturated, you'd be able to think of... let's say for argument's sake, 5 other examples.
I can only think of Edge of Tomorrow and Groundhog Day.
Happy death day and it's sequel
@@wintertrooper7918 Sequels don't count.
The map of tiny perfect things
@@hanqans8539 What's that?
Never even heard of this movie till now.
I would have thought the amount of years passed would be pushing at least a million considering Nyles and Sarah saw dinosaurs roaming while they were camping
But time does not progress so there is no way the environment would change
I'd love to be in a time loop for only 10 or so years though. Just enough time to have a little bit of fun and not hurt anyone by it, including myself.
One of the crazy parts about 40 years in a timeloop is you would definitely stop fearing repercussions… the amount of insane or down right terrible crimes he probably tried at some point mustve been insane.
I love this film
Know the timing of every person on a dance floor the time of the cave opening the earthquake happening and being able to quote every single person would take atleast a century as well as adding countless days of him not observing and just messing around
I remember street dog from 30 years ago,how he looked and what his name was , and he wasnt even around that much. My grandma used to feed him when he shows up and then he disappears.
No way she only spent a few days studying. I’d wager years passed for her to become proficient in quantum physics.
No that most likely took hers. Because when Sarah went back to nyles and he complements her looks. She says its because she can't age
@@kenjoi9413 what are you talking about? I’m saying her learning physics at that level alone would have taken years. Not even going into everything else they did. Of course she’s ageless, they both are, since they’re stuck in the time loop.
@@joehispanico I am agreeing with you
@@kenjoi9413 haha! Good ol internet. Always hard to tell tone.
@@joehispanico 🤣true
Makes sense. He said he forgot what he did for a living before getting stuck. I think it would take me about that same time to forget almost everything of my life.
As novel as it is to speculate, I feel like this is kind of the wrong question for this kind of film. In fact, I'd say that technical matters like this in film are the least important aspect. It's like asking which super-strong superhero could beat the other in a brawl. It's an utterly subjective question. The answer is always "whichever one I like more." But more importantly, these technicalities are utterly beside the point of a story, just as how a character gets from place to place between cut scenes, or when they go to the bathroom, is beside the point. I find the fact that people wonder about these things at all a bit baffling.
It doesn’t matter if it’s pointless because it’s interesting to speculate.
@@Tripepdipep Can't argue there.
I still don’t understand why they didn’t just somehow convince a quantum science person to get to the cave then drag them in? Immoral yes but after watching the movie passenger people do break! The idea never came across him after 40 years or so? But depression and denial are real so that does count, but 40 years WOW
hadn't thought of that, brilliant! Could have made an interesting plot too
He literally tells you why, in the movie... he took Roy there before he had totally snapped, and it completely backfired on him so he swore he'd never do it again. Who the hell wants multiple people hunting you and torturing you?
Me too it was great -Boss Level is a time loop action movie coming up
It's already out on Hulu
@@sheridanroad2001 we have to await Amazon Prime for the UK release, no Hulu as yet in the UK
@@TAKTAK_Toys I was wondering why RUclips was showing previews for Boss Level despite it coming out months ago.
For an action film, it's pretty awesome.
@@sheridanroad2001 I’m looking forward to it, Palm Springs only came out in the Uk on Amazon Prime in early April
I don't think you can learn Quantum Physics in three years. Or be an expert at leasr. I think Nyles was in there for at least a century. But that is just me.
I find a lot of these numbers over exaggerated, I find the dinosaurs more interesting.
Decades makes sense, especially if you know how long the writers think Bill Murray was stuck in a loop in Groundhog Day
My sister and I did this, and we came up with several decades or more.
I just realized that nyles might have actually forgotten what he did for work 😅
What happened to Sci Fri? We miss Simon!!
Cancelled because nowhere near enough people watched it.
Salient point for me was he'd forgotten what his job was!
....Didn't forget his dog though, bless.
I think Nyles spent a few decades, maybe even a lifetime in total. Sarah probably was just shy of a decade, about 2/3rds of which is studying
This is such an underused genre
I should probably watch this
WHY DO WE NEVER TALK ABOUT ROYYY!! he’s literally stuck in the timeloop still i feel so bad for him 😭😭
He’s not, watch the after credits scene
forgot to count the day he partied with roy
6:05
He did mention it
its at 06:05 moron
If I have unlimited time I would totally spend that to earn 2 PhDs in quantum physics. What a good way to spend your time
You are goals for sure
no you wouldnt
O right baby
You wouldn't be "earning" anything. Your research goes about as far as it did that day and you'll just be another nerd on the internet without an actual diploma.
What movie is this? The intro is cut off
@Daz Macca it's cut off, all you can hear is ".. rings"
@Daz Macca Relive in Palm Springs? Springs?
@@silenthill4
It’s literally in of the video though.
I gotta watch this film again.
There's one question though, it's not shown if how nyle lands there for the first time
its unfortunate that none of this actually took place in Palm Springs.. Wonder why they called it that.
TL;DR : the writer of the movie says it is at least 40 years
Are there really people that think she mastered quantum physics and performed only 1 successful experiment before escaping in a little under 2 weeks?
I thought the intent was pretty clearly she starts learning advanced physics over an extended time.
Save yourself some time. Start at 8:41.
mans trapped for 40 years and you cant wait 5 minutes
No way he off'd himself 100 times 🤣🤣
I want to be in a time loop so bad.
What’s the name of the movie
It's a good movie but I don't think it's talked about that much
I'd agree. Plus I'm going to say 6 years on that q physics train.
It's also easier to binge study a topic when you don't have to worry about taking care of your physical health or anything else.
TLDW: Decades
That is a cool and awesome
I know what the guy is saying in the video. But Nyles not being the smartest of the smartest. Just another guy led by his urges is speaking peoples dialogues. The dance seen. Knowing every in and out of what Sarah is going through , we’ll it just implies to me centuries. Years upon years drinking with no lasting effect to go otherwise. Imagine how much an addict would love to shoot up heroin and always have enough for one day and no bad consequences…. Got stuck in a loop. Drinking a lifetime away but loving the little world that he is in so years upon years pass and he intimately and deeply know almost everyone in his little world. That’s the plausible guess from me.
5:03 that scene makes me PMSL.
How are we not talking about Groundhog Day?
"happy millionth day"
If you manage to get out of the time loop it still leaves a copy of you that is not you(?) OR alternate reality you(?)...but anyways..what If that copy follows in the cave again? You get stuck again even though your life is for ex. 10y later in the real world?
Essentially, for this movie, each related day is an alternative timeline your conscience moves to.
When your conscience escapes the loop, there is no more conscience to move across timelines. As such, the existing conscience in a timeline will not be affected.
how doesnt Sarah really know about Niles though; if he's dating the blonde chick,... how doesn't Sarah know anything about him or why doesnt he ask the blonde chick like hey when did we meet, and where, and what did i say i did for work etc etc ...
Yeah one thing I was kinda dissatisfied about was how little we really know about Nile
Presuming based on the blond chick’s behavior is that she is also in-and-out of relationships. Unless she has been with one guy for a while, the family doesn’t care getting to know the boyfriend as they don’t last.
Why didn’t Nyles ever think to study quantum physics himself?
He's a lazy guy probably thought it was too much work
Quantum Physics is complicated for people who study regular Physics (can confirm), and Nyles lacked the motivation Sarah did to overcome that steep hill.
Secondly, most people would consider magical or karmic solutions to such a problem long before they attempt Science.
who says he knew about a way out.... he committed suicide countless times to try and escape pretty sure if he knew a way out he would do it
@@reniervandermerwe
Um.... that's what I said.
Most people wouldn't even consider a scientific means to end the loop, such as Nyles.
I was quite surprised that Sarah went that route.
But she could draw on Nyles's lack of success and try different opinions; which he had lacked a new perspective to attempt an escape.
@@sheridanroad2001 no you said he lacked motivation..... Thats different than not knowing a way out lol. So if my car breaks and i don't know how to fix it then its lack of motivation? Damn man.... yOu aRe So SmArT
The loop is 1 million days
Too bad this movie had limited budget. When i started watching i thought i was going to see a Groundhog Day on steroids. Still it was a fairly fun, nice movie.
There is no point trying to count it
Time loops are hard to count
I liked this movie
First saw this movie I was shocked few quotes said in movie hit home when I had them used in my theory for Cal tech pro. Where dust and emf show proof of past and present and I used to go to moron to cuz it was 18 n over not 21! But was said my life will forward at the dinosaur park right next to palm springs. Same day was a fire a d earth quake and same people at the casino haha
It's more like years she studies physics. Watch it again.
I dig it
I loved palm springs, and i hate most movies, thats how i know its good.
Best comedy of recent times
Nah, 100 days is way too much man.
It’s definitely way more. No way sarah learned quantum physics in less than 100 days. It was probably several years.
What do you honestly think heaven would be like? You have an eternity. Mind wipe every day? or something like this film? In which way would you be able to keep your sanity?
Palm Springs is sort of Jewish Groundhog Day Sarah is played by Cristin Milioti an Italian, but she looks Jewish enough. The curse was placed by Mel Brooks and Andy Sandburg is the Catskills comic hired for the wedding. "HELLO? I'm dyin' up here!"
And where ELSE would a Jewish couple get stuck in a curse placed by Mel Brooks? Florida, New York City's escape hatch.
Fans?
I mean come on get a real job
@@brayanrodriguez5841 To answer your question "Fans?" If you are unsure about what a fan is here is a quick rundown: It can mean many things such as an apparatus with rotating blades that creates a current of air for cooling or ventilation, or a handheld semi-circle that extends to also be used for cooling. It can also mean to blow on something gently or slang for missing in baseball. Most of the definitions originate from the latin word vannus, which then became fann and fannian in old english and eventually just fan in modern day. To what you said about "I mean come on get a real job," Kohl's is an example of a multi-billion dollar company that sells fans among other things, so it is a real job, and a great sum of money if you were to be the CEO.
This is essentially a rewritten retelling of Groundhog Day.
Not at all. Groundhog Day is an awesome movie but it didn't invent the concept of reliving the same day over and over
over saturated lol