My daughter-in-law's mother had 7 pregnancies resulting in only two live babies. The heartache some women have to go through. I am happy that Elisabeth's bloodline continues to modern times. She sounds a strong, intelligent woman.
I am so very sorry for your daughter in law's losses Iris... Losing a child, let alone five of. them, is the worst thing that can happen to a mother. So very very sorry...
I can only imagine what it must have felt like for these women to be treated like birthing cattle at a time when medicine was a mix of superstition and butchery. They write books and make movies about famous war heroes, but these women were nothing short of brave warrior amazones. People often underestimate the fact that childbirth often meant automatic death for a lot of women. Royal women had often only that one job. When you now think about the famous queens that lead armies while being pregnant, you have to view "bravery" as a spectrum. On account of my research, royal women were often brought up poorly, bc no one thought they would have a purpose apart from birthing children, so it's interesting that this view changed quite often during history. Once again a well researched video. Love it!
Thanks Renias, really happy you liked it. Women were so often considered a bargaining 'product' back then, but as you rightfully put it, when called upon, many of them excelled. The 'weaker' sex ? I think not...
Sssoooo much this!!!! Ever read the book "Isabella: The Warrior Queen" by Kirstin Downey? It's brilliant, also exploring her family as a whole as well in detail.
It’s really interesting to see how Elisabeth’s genealogical legacy lives to the present day while Marianna of Austria’s was gone at the beginning of the 1700’s.
Yeah, Marianna being Philip IV's niece was the last straw for the Spanish Hapsburgs. It's so sad they had no idea inbreeding was a problem- otherwise, Austria's policy of gaining territory through marriage rather than war sounds very nice; it's just it becomes a potential disaster if it continues in subsequent generations with the same families.
@@TheKingsofFrance no problem! Philip IV’s relationships with his wives and family are one of my favorite history subjects! Second only to Louis XV and his family
@@beth7935 I'm sure they knew somewhat- that at least, it was linked, without understanding of course... like a silent truth because they were bound to marry off sons and daughters to royal cousins to keep blood purity no matter the cost.
@@ink3539 I used to think so, but I read or heard somewhere recently that they honestly didn't- they thought such problems were due to being cursed by God, like Carlos II of Spain was known as "il Hechizado"; "the Bewitched". And I'm not sure it was the reason for church consanguinity laws, cos they applied to unrelated people like in-laws & even relationships based on who was a godparent, like your sibling's godparents were out... I could be wrong tho, & if so, I'd appreciate a correction with any evidence to the contrary, cos I'd like the correct info!
Love how u said "ha" when saying women were only good for bearing children. Words fall like flowers from your mouth and you are easy to understand. Je adore vous. Pardon my butchering of your beautiful language. I'm learning trying to learn Beaucoup difficult lol
@@TheKingsofFrance I don't know how u learned other languages. It's very hard. I understand u perfectly well. U might not like ur voice but I love it. The way u end sentences on an upnote, or if talking about children in peril, or anything sad,you end your sentences so demure. I have been working on a picture of the Eiffel tower. When its done, I will change my profile picture and show you. Keep up the wonderful videos, you must be an educated person.
Elisabeth is so cool the way she was able to save Spain and the Spanish monarchy. Thank you for this amazing video. I must also state that the fashion of Elisabeth's era was fabulous with their passion for ruffs.
As always GREAT video! You provide such vivid detail of these historical figures and events. I greatly enjoy listening to these videos and learning something new.
This lady showed remarkable resilients, and proved to be a very good regent, a very beautiful bright and very Inteligent queen indeed. Thank you as always Nieke.
Elisabeth of France was also closely related to her husband Philip IV, King of Spain, being 2nd cousin besides other ways related as well. She being a granddaughter of Archduchess Johanna of Austria, and Philip IV being a grandson of Johanna's brother Archduke Charles of Inner Austria. Philip IV's 2nd wife Mariana of Austria was also his niece, being daughter of his younger sister Maria Anna of Spain and her husband/1st cousin Ferdinand III, Holy Roman Emperor.
@@TheKingsofFrance Charles I Stewart tried to court Maria Anna of Spain but it was a fiasco whit him were Buckingham and Richard Wynn the Older Buckingham got into a fight whit his Spanish counterpart (probably Olivares himself) Maria Anna refused Charles's advances and they left Spain after that they went to France where Charles met Hanryette Marie
Thankyou, I didn't know the 1st bit! I'm trying to work out the genealogy, but I didn't expect there to be a Hapsburg connection through the Italian de Medicis, whom I know nothing about except that Marie & Catherine _weren't_ that closely related. 2nd cousins almost sounds like a distant relationship for Hapsburg royalty tho, & evidently they were _just_ distantly related enough for their line to continue, unlike Philip's & Maria Anna's- poor old Charles II...
@@beth7935 I myself am even more interested in Charles II's lovers specially Louise de Kerouaile and Lucy Walter (mother of his most notorious bastard James Scott 1st Duke of Monmouth)
@@beth7935 plus I should tell you I'm a royalist those animals Cromwell Henry Irethon and the other judges that condemned Charles I to death they got what they deserved they opened their graves beheded the bodies and publicly desecrated them well deserved if you ask me
She was gorgeous and strong queen and regent. Eleven children and such deep devotion to Spain, she died too young. May God bless her soul. All husbands are ungrateful for superb wives. Mistresses are still ruining many marriages.
I agree with you to a point,but the shouldn't get off Scott free.He is equally as guilty as she is. I am tried of people always blaming the woman,especially the woman,and,especially back then.Whiich,,wasn't always the case.
Thanks for another great vid about another brilliant & interesting queen! I cheered for her getting Olivares sacked- she proved him SO wrong about women's abilities! She was a very capable Regent, as well as a popular Queen Consort, even when her kingdom was at war with the country of her birth, & she _did_ give Philip one son who nearly lived to adulthood, but it's just awful she lost so many children- a horrible example of how such very inbred royalty actually had _worse_ infant mortality than peasants. Her line did just manage to survive tho, whereas when Philip IV chose his _niece_ for his next wife, that was the last straw for the Spanish Hapsburgs- poor Charles II. It's just tragic that they didn't know inbreeding was a problem- otherwise, Austria's policy of gaining territory through marriage rather than war sounds quite nice really; it just becomes a very bad idea if repeated in subsequent generations with the same families.
The previous Valido before Olivares was his own maternal uncle Baltasar de Zuniga y Velasco Olivares was married to Ines de Zuniga y Velasco (probably Olivares's own cousin) btw Ines was the royal governess to Balthazar Carlos Prince of Asturias
Gaspar de Guzman y Pimental count-duke de Olivares was not only prime minister but allso the King`s ultimate favourite something like the Duke of Buckingam in England allthough i never found out anything about Gaspar being the King`s lover Buckingam on the other hand..... it was evedent that James I was interested in him as more than just a friend
Anne I was another extremely unlucky one - 17 failed pregnancies, only one surviving child, and he did not live long enough to succeed her. As a result, the Stuart line died with Anne (not counting the Pretenders), fulfilling James V's prediction that "[the Stuart line] came with a lass, and it shall go with a lass" (except that he mistakenly thought the lass was going to be his newborn daughter, Mary Queen of Scots). Catherine of Aragon was also cursed with a long string of failed pregnancies, and her only surviving child was the wrong sex. This left her husband Henry VIII with no heirs and turning to desperate measures to get one that would change the course of history.
The last Spanish Valido was Louis Mendez de Haro y Guzman Olivares's nephew and successor as royal Valido he was destroyed by Sister Maria de Agreda ho convinced the king to abolish the Valido function Louis Mendez even served as a proxy for the king's wedding
Once again, I'm amazed at the fortitude of these royal women. I'm relieved that her husband came to appreciate her talents before she passed away.
I agree Robert. Many of them were quite strong, despite the unfavorable circumstances the often found themselves in !
My daughter-in-law's mother had 7 pregnancies resulting in only two live babies. The heartache some women have to go through. I am happy that Elisabeth's bloodline continues to modern times. She sounds a strong, intelligent woman.
I am so very sorry for your daughter in law's losses Iris... Losing a child, let alone five of. them, is the worst thing that can happen to a mother. So very very sorry...
I can only imagine what it must have felt like for these women to be treated like birthing cattle at a time when medicine was a mix of superstition and butchery. They write books and make movies about famous war heroes, but these women were nothing short of brave warrior amazones. People often underestimate the fact that childbirth often meant automatic death for a lot of women. Royal women had often only that one job. When you now think about the famous queens that lead armies while being pregnant, you have to view "bravery" as a spectrum.
On account of my research, royal women were often brought up poorly, bc no one thought they would have a purpose apart from birthing children, so it's interesting that this view changed quite often during history.
Once again a well researched video. Love it!
Thanks Renias, really happy you liked it. Women were so often considered a bargaining 'product' back then, but as you rightfully put it, when called upon, many of them excelled. The 'weaker' sex ? I think not...
Sssoooo much this!!!! Ever read the book "Isabella: The Warrior Queen" by Kirstin Downey? It's brilliant, also exploring her family as a whole as well in detail.
Poor woman! All those pregnancies and miscarriages! She was a very strong woman to go thru all of that! Most admirable!
Thank you for watching Patricia !
It’s really interesting to see how Elisabeth’s genealogical legacy lives to the present day while Marianna of Austria’s was gone at the beginning of the 1700’s.
Yeah, Marianna being Philip IV's niece was the last straw for the Spanish Hapsburgs. It's so sad they had no idea inbreeding was a problem- otherwise, Austria's policy of gaining territory through marriage rather than war sounds very nice; it's just it becomes a potential disaster if it continues in subsequent generations with the same families.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting !
@@TheKingsofFrance no problem! Philip IV’s relationships with his wives and family are one of my favorite history subjects! Second only to Louis XV and his family
@@beth7935 I'm sure they knew somewhat- that at least, it was linked, without understanding of course... like a silent truth because they were bound to marry off sons and daughters to royal cousins to keep blood purity no matter the cost.
@@ink3539 I used to think so, but I read or heard somewhere recently that they honestly didn't- they thought such problems were due to being cursed by God, like Carlos II of Spain was known as "il Hechizado"; "the Bewitched". And I'm not sure it was the reason for church consanguinity laws, cos they applied to unrelated people like in-laws & even relationships based on who was a godparent, like your sibling's godparents were out... I could be wrong tho, & if so, I'd appreciate a correction with any evidence to the contrary, cos I'd like the correct info!
Love how u said "ha" when saying women were only good for bearing children. Words fall like flowers from your mouth and you are easy to understand. Je adore vous. Pardon my butchering of your beautiful language. I'm learning trying to learn
Beaucoup difficult lol
Actually my native tongue is Flemish… I live in Belgium. I’m glad you find the videos understandable, I have had complaints in the past… 🤷♀️
@@TheKingsofFrance I don't know how u learned other languages. It's very hard. I understand u perfectly well. U might not like ur voice but I love it. The way u end sentences on an upnote, or if talking about children in peril, or anything sad,you end your sentences so demure. I have been working on a picture of the Eiffel tower. When its done, I will change my profile picture and show you. Keep up the wonderful videos, you must be an educated person.
Elisabeth is so cool the way she was able to save Spain and the Spanish monarchy. Thank you for this amazing video.
I must also state that the fashion of Elisabeth's era was fabulous with their passion for ruffs.
I can't help but thinking she really belongs on the cover of a magazine ! Thank you so much for watching once again Vishnu !
@@TheKingsofFrance Oh yes she does, I'm thinking of Times magazine. "THE FRENCH PRINCESS WHO SAVED THE SPANISH CROWN".
Wow! Great info on someone who sadly isn't necessarily well known.
Fascinating all the way around. Great presentation, everything! A+!
Thanks KoF!
Thank you Maddie !!
Hi, Awesome live history video I enjoyed it can't wait to see more soon. Your videos are always enjoyable and relaxing have a great day 😀
Thank you so much !!!
8:55 who was also the daughter of his big sister Marie-Anne, so he basically re-married his 29 years younger niece
As always GREAT video! You provide such vivid detail of these historical figures and events. I greatly enjoy listening to these videos and learning something new.
Thank you so much, I'm happy you're enjoying my videos !
This lady showed remarkable resilients, and proved to be a very good regent, a very beautiful bright and very Inteligent queen indeed. Thank you as always Nieke.
Thank you for watching Robert, I really appreciate it !
Elisabeth of France was also closely related to her husband Philip IV, King of Spain, being 2nd cousin besides other ways related as well. She being a granddaughter of Archduchess Johanna of Austria, and Philip IV being a grandson of Johanna's brother Archduke Charles of Inner Austria.
Philip IV's 2nd wife Mariana of Austria was also his niece, being daughter of his younger sister Maria Anna of Spain and her husband/1st cousin Ferdinand III, Holy Roman Emperor.
Thank you for sharing this info with us !
@@TheKingsofFrance Charles I Stewart tried to court Maria Anna of Spain but it was a fiasco whit him were Buckingham and Richard Wynn the Older Buckingham got into a fight whit his Spanish counterpart (probably Olivares himself) Maria Anna refused Charles's advances and they left Spain after that they went to France where Charles met Hanryette Marie
Thankyou, I didn't know the 1st bit! I'm trying to work out the genealogy, but I didn't expect there to be a Hapsburg connection through the Italian de Medicis, whom I know nothing about except that Marie & Catherine _weren't_ that closely related. 2nd cousins almost sounds like a distant relationship for Hapsburg royalty tho, & evidently they were _just_ distantly related enough for their line to continue, unlike Philip's & Maria Anna's- poor old Charles II...
@@beth7935 I myself am even more interested in Charles II's lovers specially Louise de Kerouaile and Lucy Walter (mother of his most notorious bastard James Scott 1st Duke of Monmouth)
@@beth7935 plus I should tell you I'm a royalist those animals Cromwell Henry Irethon and the other judges that condemned Charles I to death they got what they deserved they opened their graves beheded the bodies and publicly desecrated them well deserved if you ask me
This was a most informative and interesting video. Well narrated, thank you.
Thank you so much for watching Karen, I appreciate your kind words !
Her husband definitely had the Hapsburg jaw. Really interesting video. Thank you! I hit that subscribe button.
Thank you so much for subscribing !!
Another great video! Thank you! Elisabeth did a good job as Queen. I'm sorry she had so many miscarriages. That had to be hard.
Thank you so much for watching again !
It’s sounds like the duke wanted to rule so distracted Philip the 4th. Still poor Elizabeth all those pregnancies and only two children.
Very loyal & intelligent ruler 👑! Merci for the excellent video 🌸♥️!
Thank you so much for watching again Christine !
Elisabeth was an amazing and astute woman. Thank you for this amazing documentary. This means a lot.
thank YOU for watching once again Lily !!
@@TheKingsofFrance Avec plaisir!
Philipe VI of Spain will be succeeded on the Spanish throne by his daughter Infanta Leonor she will be the first Spanish Queen since Isabella II
Remarkable woman. And clearly as strong as granite in spite of everything. Thanks!
Thank you Cerberus, it's good to see you !
Wonderful presentation as always! 👏 🇫🇷 🇪🇸
Thank you very much !
These royal wedding seem to be a punishment for women. I find myself feeling very frustrated for them
I agree they often did not have it easy.
Buen interesante como siempre. ¡Bien hecho!
Thank you so much !!!
She was gorgeous and strong queen and regent. Eleven children and such deep devotion to Spain, she died too young. May God bless her soul. All husbands are ungrateful for superb wives. Mistresses are still ruining many marriages.
Thanks Ambreen for being here once again !
I agree with you to a point,but the shouldn't get off Scott free.He is equally as guilty as she is. I am tried of people always blaming the woman,especially the woman,and,especially back then.Whiich,,wasn't always the case.
Thanks for another great vid about another brilliant & interesting queen! I cheered for her getting Olivares sacked- she proved him SO wrong about women's abilities! She was a very capable Regent, as well as a popular Queen Consort, even when her kingdom was at war with the country of her birth, & she _did_ give Philip one son who nearly lived to adulthood, but it's just awful she lost so many children- a horrible example of how such very inbred royalty actually had _worse_ infant mortality than peasants. Her line did just manage to survive tho, whereas when Philip IV chose his _niece_ for his next wife, that was the last straw for the Spanish Hapsburgs- poor Charles II. It's just tragic that they didn't know inbreeding was a problem- otherwise, Austria's policy of gaining territory through marriage rather than war sounds quite nice really; it just becomes a very bad idea if repeated in subsequent generations with the same families.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us Beth, you make some great points indeed !
Such crazy inbreeding in Spain. Uncles with nieces - it’s shocking!! Wonderful video as always.
Thank you so much Ana !
The previous Valido before Olivares was his own maternal uncle Baltasar de Zuniga y Velasco Olivares was married to Ines de Zuniga y Velasco (probably Olivares's own cousin) btw Ines was the royal governess to Balthazar Carlos Prince of Asturias
great video!
Thank you so much !
Gaspar de Guzman y Pimental count-duke de Olivares was not only prime minister but allso the King`s ultimate favourite something like the Duke of Buckingam in England allthough i never found out anything about Gaspar being the King`s lover Buckingam on the other hand..... it was evedent that James I was interested in him as more than just a friend
Thank you so much for sharing !
Great channel.
Thank you Elizabeth, I appreciate your kind words !
Balthazar Carlos is a personal favorite of mine and my favorite Habsburg overall
Thanks for watching, I will add him to my list of videos to make !
@@TheKingsofFrance Thanks for that because I allways wanted to get more insight on his fisical and mental capacity
first comment honestly i`ve being waiting for this video but what`s next
I dont know yet.
@@TheKingsofFrance I suggest Cristine Marie or Le Duke d'Saint Simon
Phillip wasn't easy on the eyes...
Thank you for watching and commenting Kim.
@@TheKingsofFrance I love your videos ❤️❤️
You make to the best content
And you always watch it, so you're the best !!!
@@TheKingsofFrance thank you!
Great video anyway
Thank you so much Toni !
Anne I was another extremely unlucky one - 17 failed pregnancies, only one surviving child, and he did not live long enough to succeed her. As a result, the Stuart line died with Anne (not counting the Pretenders), fulfilling James V's prediction that "[the Stuart line] came with a lass, and it shall go with a lass" (except that he mistakenly thought the lass was going to be his newborn daughter, Mary Queen of Scots). Catherine of Aragon was also cursed with a long string of failed pregnancies, and her only surviving child was the wrong sex. This left her husband Henry VIII with no heirs and turning to desperate measures to get one that would change the course of history.
Thanks for adding this information for us all ! Very interesting to read !
one of my favorite Queens, graceful and very beautiful.
Thank you for watching Pete !
I am so depressed.
Uhm... due to the video?
💋💋💋🥰🥰🥰 I could listen to you all day
I wish my husband would say the same ! (Joke)...
Olivares was a Valido (Favorite)
The last Spanish Valido was Louis Mendez de Haro y Guzman Olivares's nephew and successor as royal Valido he was destroyed by Sister Maria de Agreda ho convinced the king to abolish the Valido function Louis Mendez even served as a proxy for the king's wedding
Thanks for sharing this additional info once more.
@@TheKingsofFrance allways a pleasure
Too many pregnancies !!!
Unfortunately, she only had two surviving children... Thank you for watching.
Great video. Sad about all the lost children. So much inbreeding.
Thank you so much for watching Jane !
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Thank you so much for watching again !
What an amazing princess!
Thank you so much for watching Marina !
Elizabeth from Verdi's Don Carlo
Thank you so much for watching and commenting !
What an amazing Lady. She realized that there was more than just being "breeding stock"
Thank you so much for watching Kelly !
What a brave woman!
Thank you so much for watching and commenting !
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I wish I could have seen her in action, she sounds like a force of nature xD
I agree ! thank you so much for watching Anastasia !
Thank God for Margaret Sanger.
Thank you for watching and commenting Jackie !