The usual remark comment: 1. It seems that i forgot to update the scourge rotation image to my last round of adjustments. First i used a rotation similar to the SC benchmark, but realized that pistol camp was much simpler and easier to execute well. 2. I applied stability to the golem for both scrapper and spellbreaker for convenience. On scrapper stability is applied on every second application of the other boons, putting the trait on cooldown. Over time i got annoyed by waiting for that to match with the opener, so i just applied stability. You can deduct a little bit of damage from the numbers to account for that. On spellbreaker it has basically no effect, as the rotation maintains stability anyway. 3. On mechanist, you can also use grenade kit if you want more consistent range. It is harder to reach similar damage levels on it though, as it requires more frequent swaps into the kit to use grenade kit 2. Bomb kit also maintains thermal vision due to the fire aoe from bomb kit 2, while grenade kit does not. In the end, both are strong choices so pick what you want :)
was wondering what timer you refer when you exit and enter shroud as the wells seems almost to line up until I remember the rotation refers to maximizing soul barbs (+10% dmg)
@@moonga1000 I think the build in the gw2skills link is wrong and he is actually using earth sigil instead of torment sigil on the scepter? You can see that the relic is actually being activated in the video, causing 3 stacks of torment roughly every 20 seconds. I don't see any other torment applications, so I'm guessing it's a sigil swap.
Your Scourge bench shows a pistol camp rotation, but the written description talks about swapping between pistol and scepter- what's the DPS gain from swapping? Did you end up deciding it's just not worth it vs camping pistol?
Awesome video! Its cool to know that virtually every class has raid-tier DPS when set up properly. Condition Druid blew my mind lol. I've been casually playing power spellbreaker in PvE and the build & rotation is just so easy, the damage so good, and the CC plentiful. You basically just use the burst skills as much as you can and the Full Counter (2nd burst skill) is super satisfying to use.
Would you change anything for the Condi Virtuoso build if you don't have Soto and have to use Relic of the Aristocracy instead? Metabattle says it requires different gear. I prefer your rotation over there's though.
I love playing untamed but assumed I’d have to grow an extra hand to reach higher numbers with it. So thanks for showing that it’s possible to clear 35k without even weapon swapping!
Can I ask what axe sigil do you use on the Willbender build? The build has already reach 100% burning duration with Balthazar so I don't really know what to use on the axe, maybe Air or Torment?
Wow the effort you put into this and the build guides on the wiki are amazing. Seriously the best I've seen, specially the way you provide so many options for food, utilities, traits etc. Amazing work!
Just too good. Sadly so many changes will come at the end of November. Hope that still many of those build can be still used afterwards. Would be dramatic otherwise after this huge amount of work of yours.
November won't change that much in PvE. Even if the new weapons are broken OP, you will still be able to use these builds. Some builds that don't perform as well (scrapper/herald) will be buffed but most of them stay as is
Most of the time i went for thief, the 2% isnt really worth teh hassle imo. Even thief isn't always up when you don't adjust skill casts. On some builds its easy to maintain fireworks (e.g. reaper); for those i went for it.
@cupra7760 hi, I have dedicated build videos for both of them on my channel where I explain which changes I'd make for open world and why. Might want to check these out :)
I don't get it. I have the exact same build/gear yet I still can't pull off these numbers for both power vind/reaper. I used my old build and did more dps. Could have to do with screwing up the rotation maybe.
How are you proccing relic of the fractal on the fire attunement only tempest? I can't seem to figure it out as there seems to be no bleeding on the build?
Amazing work you've done in here, I really love your videos, I've found many useful and funny builds to play with while dealing a really good dps with low effort. Thank you!
I dont know why but, my willbender cant use axe and torch. Do you need the latest expansion to be able to use axe and torch? I only have until EoD Expansion
@MaselMMO hey man, so I have the same gear and buff and everything as you but for some reason my burst way lower than yours. for example your first rotation start peak at like ~52k then goes to ~37k on reaper. But for some reason i can never peak my first rotation passed 42k and then i go to 31k. Even though my rotation is identical to the one if the video. Does your dps meter have different settings or is there a buff im missing i dont know. like literally the first rotation you have 10k more dps than me withtin 10 seconds
I'd love to see a response to this question myself. I've got the same gear like he does for the DH build and yet my dps is like 11k lower using all boons for me and all condis setting for the golem.
They don't... it's a common issue with some versions of the RUclips app because the editor links are quite long. For me they load as intended. Try opening them with a different pc/phone/outside of the app :)
amazing work, what a god, i am always waiting for your vids with good simple builds, and what an amazing piece of art was this upload! my casual guildies will be really happy thanks to you, thanks for your work!
Excellent video and website. I want to take my revenant to another level, and it's intimidating, but with your help I just might be able to do this. Kudos to you and your work!
Thanks for the response! Holy moly. I built this like 2 days before those nerfs came out and since then Condi Druid hasn't even featured on the Snowcrows benchmark. @@MaselMMO Thank you.
Folge skill 3, corona burst, continues to grant heat after you cast it, but will not cause you to overheat when it caps it. That way, it maintains a high heat level for longer after exiting forge, increasing your damage. You should try to cast corona burst right before exiting forge to make that happen :)
In the Dragonhunter bench, you seem to be using Big Game Hunter, cause the f1 tether is lasting 12 seconds, but in the linked build you're using Heavy Light instead. Which one do you recommend for actual use? Using Heavy Light allows you to use f1 for utility, while Big Game Hunter is probably more damage, right? Also in the linked Willbender build, you have scepter instead of axe like in the video.
He notes the scepter in the condi willbender is only used for ranged fights. But he should add axe to the build linked, yes. Axe/torch melee, scepter/torch at range
Not really. The changes from the preview are meant to lift some niche builds up. It could be that the new weapons are broken OP for some specs of course, but I hope they don't do a relic mess again
On pherald he is staying on 0 upkeep in Glint and -3 upkeep in Shiro. On qherald i'm used to -1 in Glint (nature + chaos) and doing other facets on cooldown with 4 aa chains -> -1 in Shiro (just Impossible Odds) and 5 aa chains. This provides the most reliable quickness stuck at almost +30 sec in berserker gear🫠
@@luccianheh5971 Thank you so much the good tips. Only now i realized it is possible to generate quickness with just -1 as you have mentioned. Just curious do u turn on and consum your heal facet as well? or Just leave it off.
@@augenezum in most situations i just double click healing facet and survive even when i fked up telegraphed mechanics and/or my staff is not available now for blocking. Regen boon is not really a thing without healing power stat and you are still helping your healer with Glints Facet of nature.
@@augenezum also don't forget that some encounters need stability, so you swap Shiro for Jalis. A lot of open world meta events like Dragons End need a lot of stability so pugs don't die instantly.
Hello, Your DH build doesn't reach 100% crit, I guess their is something wrong then ? Edit : Also curious why S/S instead of GS on vindicator :o Edit 2 : tested both weapon on vindi, s/s is way better, thx for the build, ton of fun !
Has anyone some tips on the power untamed rotation? I cannot seem to get beyond 31k dps. The only thing I'm missing is my main hand sword is exotic instead of ascended ( axe is ascended). Rest is all the same setup and rotation as the example.
Exotic Sword instead of Asc will cost you about 5.5% damage so that's at least 1.5-2k you're missing there. If you don't have Infusions, that's another 1k or so, if you're not using the right food & Utility that's another 1.5-2k. The rest probably just comes down to being too slow to use skills, cancelling skills by accidents or interrupting AA chains.
Idk, I feel like I'm doing something fundamentally wrong Same gear (exotic), same build, Berserker rotation, only missing food, full buffs/debuff .. I can barely hit 22k .. like, I don't think food is going to add 17k damage
what do you mean when you say you're missing food and "buffs/debuffs"? food and enhancements won't make up 17k, but if you didn't actually give yourself boons or put condis on the golem, that difference is easily explained
@@b7jay357 I was only missing food and ascended gear, I used full buffs on me and full debuffs on the golem. I tried some other specs without food buffs and with power chrono I hit like 31k at least, but I feel like for some of the builds I'm just doing things wrong and idk what.
the whole point is to show the kind of dps to expect with easier rotations so you can both deal decent damage while freeing up space in your head to deal with mechanics at the same time
Great video. Can I put in a request for a guide series on the easiest to play solo builds? Stuff that can solo HoT HPs, PoF legendary bounties, T3 Rifts, that sort of thing. I feel that that's the real test of a class and the most functionally useful to have. And not builds that require sweaty gameplay as probably any class can solo that stuff if you're skilled enough. That sweet spot of soloing hard content without needing to be a god gamer. A few of your "beginner recommendations" is this video I wouldn't play because they're far too spammy. That's not a complaint against you but against the game itself. Pressing all your buttons constantly is just bad gameplay, in my opinion. I know a lot of people prefer the high Actions Per Minute style though, I just prefer not having to playing Flight of the Bumblebee on my keyboard in order to do damage or survive.
You can look into the builds I have on the wiki page. I have open world build videos for many specs too, where I showcase harder solos. Thing is, solos are niche content. Most of the time you are not alone, even if you want to. When you start to solo bounties, HPs and the like, more often than not people will join you. I know many people are interested in solo builds, but I don't think putting a lot of money into building for it is a good idea.
It's not better per se, it can be if you use it right. It's harder to use right though, which is why I went for bomb kit. Grenade kit is definitely an excellent choice, that's why it's used on the SC benchmark for J-drive
The usual remark comment:
1. It seems that i forgot to update the scourge rotation image to my last round of adjustments. First i used a rotation similar to the SC benchmark, but realized that pistol camp was much simpler and easier to execute well.
2. I applied stability to the golem for both scrapper and spellbreaker for convenience. On scrapper stability is applied on every second application of the other boons, putting the trait on cooldown. Over time i got annoyed by waiting for that to match with the opener, so i just applied stability. You can deduct a little bit of damage from the numbers to account for that. On spellbreaker it has basically no effect, as the rotation maintains stability anyway.
3. On mechanist, you can also use grenade kit if you want more consistent range. It is harder to reach similar damage levels on it though, as it requires more frequent swaps into the kit to use grenade kit 2. Bomb kit also maintains thermal vision due to the fire aoe from bomb kit 2, while grenade kit does not. In the end, both are strong choices so pick what you want :)
Why do you use relic of fractal on tempest when you don't apply any bleeding?
was wondering what timer you refer when you exit and enter shroud as the wells seems almost to line up until I remember the rotation refers to maximizing soul barbs (+10% dmg)
@@moonga1000 I think the build in the gw2skills link is wrong and he is actually using earth sigil instead of torment sigil on the scepter? You can see that the relic is actually being activated in the video, causing 3 stacks of torment roughly every 20 seconds. I don't see any other torment applications, so I'm guessing it's a sigil swap.
@MaselMMO Hi may i know what armour skin are you wearing for your charr warrior in bladesworn? it looks really good thanks
great, I really like it 😘
you've outdone yourself again; would love to see more build variations on your personal wiki page
I'd like to myself, but I'm just one person and it is sloooooooooow :(
Your Scourge bench shows a pistol camp rotation, but the written description talks about swapping between pistol and scepter- what's the DPS gain from swapping? Did you end up deciding it's just not worth it vs camping pistol?
Put a pinned comment on that clarifies things :)
Me:checks yt one last time bevor going to bed
Masel:no sleep for you!
Thx mate ❤
This video made me sub! Its amazing to see other rotations out there that work. Keep it coming for next patch! Have a Discord?
Awesome video! Its cool to know that virtually every class has raid-tier DPS when set up properly. Condition Druid blew my mind lol.
I've been casually playing power spellbreaker in PvE and the build & rotation is just so easy, the damage so good, and the CC plentiful. You basically just use the burst skills as much as you can and the Full Counter (2nd burst skill) is super satisfying to use.
Great video! super detailed builds. And DAMN THAT MUSIC!
Wooo!
Would you change anything for the Condi Virtuoso build if you don't have Soto and have to use Relic of the Aristocracy instead? Metabattle says it requires different gear. I prefer your rotation over there's though.
I love playing untamed but assumed I’d have to grow an extra hand to reach higher numbers with it. So thanks for showing that it’s possible to clear 35k without even weapon swapping!
Can I ask what axe sigil do you use on the Willbender build? The build has already reach 100% burning duration with Balthazar so I don't really know what to use on the axe, maybe Air or Torment?
Assalamualaikum
Subbed Liked and added to my favs list. Thx
Wow the effort you put into this and the build guides on the wiki are amazing. Seriously the best I've seen, specially the way you provide so many options for food, utilities, traits etc. Amazing work!
very good job!
Unreal guide tyvm
I was wondering what you were up to! Incredible work as always, Masel
Awesome, thank you! One thing .. benching scrapper with perm stability seems questionable?
Put a pinned comment on to clarify the reasoning behind it
Can this power soulbeast build allow us use longbow as secondary? I really love the idea of sword-axe/longbow for both pve and pvp.
yes. You do more dps with a longbow as second weapon. see this for the rotation ruclips.net/video/_84xNwsQ_-k/видео.html
Just too good. Sadly so many changes will come at the end of November. Hope that still many of those build can be still used afterwards. Would be dramatic otherwise after this huge amount of work of yours.
November won't change that much in PvE. Even if the new weapons are broken OP, you will still be able to use these builds.
Some builds that don't perform as well (scrapper/herald) will be buffed but most of them stay as is
good to see my old main condi renegade still being fire
you da goat for this
35:00 shouldn't Deadeye attack from behind for more damage?
Nope. It says from behind or defiant foes. ANet changed that a while back.
Is there a replacement for relic of fractal on condi daredevil
can u make a guide for power virtuoso?ty
Awesome job, plus wiki work its incredible useful.
Thanks man! Can't wait to try them myself !!
For condi virtuoso, wouldn't Malicious Sorcery be better than Master of Fragmentation since it increases your confusion damage by 25%?
how do you decide between relic of fireworks vs relic of thief?
Most of the time i went for thief, the 2% isnt really worth teh hassle imo. Even thief isn't always up when you don't adjust skill casts. On some builds its easy to maintain fireworks (e.g. reaper); for those i went for it.
hello your build for your virtuoso and your mech are playable in open wold fractal and raid?
@cupra7760 hi, I have dedicated build videos for both of them on my channel where I explain which changes I'd make for open world and why. Might want to check these out :)
Nice music mate :)
I don't get it. I have the exact same build/gear yet I still can't pull off these numbers for both power vind/reaper. I used my old build and did more dps. Could have to do with screwing up the rotation maybe.
Hello, wanted to ask about the Harbinger build you showed, I can't seem to keep my shroud up as long as you can, do you know why that could be?
I can't seem to break 28k with that Tempest rotation, full ascended vipers gear, etc. What gives?
How are you proccing relic of the fractal on the fire attunement only tempest? I can't seem to figure it out as there seems to be no bleeding on the build?
Earth sigil and putting 3 stacks of bleeding on the golem :P if the build shows torment sigil, I have to change it
Amazing work you've done in here, I really love your videos, I've found many useful and funny builds to play with while dealing a really good dps with low effort. Thank you!
What would be the dps of core soto spec? Like not having Hot, PoF or EoD.
How much dps is shortbow only condition soulbeast?
@MaselMMO at 4:30 - 5:00 is in intentional that you cancel 3rd attack from Hummer chain?
I dont know why but, my willbender cant use axe and torch. Do you need the latest expansion to be able to use axe and torch? I only have until EoD Expansion
yes Secrets xpac gives weapon master which lets you use other weapons
oh ok. thanks!@@tonic316
Thanks, these help out a lot!
how to set arcdps to show dps or anything because mine show nothing
beginner reccomendations makes me feel really bad T_T
This is insane amount of information and very concise thank you very much subbed
untamed and soulbeast dealing the same damage? did not expected that
@MaselMMO hey man, so I have the same gear and buff and everything as you but for some reason my burst way lower than yours. for example your first rotation start peak at like ~52k then goes to ~37k on reaper. But for some reason i can never peak my first rotation passed 42k and then i go to 31k. Even though my rotation is identical to the one if the video. Does your dps meter have different settings or is there a buff im missing i dont know. like literally the first rotation you have 10k more dps than me withtin 10 seconds
I'd love to see a response to this question myself. I've got the same gear like he does for the DH build and yet my dps is like 11k lower using all boons for me and all condis setting for the golem.
On Condi druid, how would manage with Glyph of Alignment and Vipers Nest instead?
I tested that today and its actually better damage now, due to the recent nerf to blood moon :) snowcrows also changed that
Can I play these builds in CM strikes and raids or will I be kicked for not playing the SC builds?
These are the snowcrows builds, just with smaller changes to make them easier to play. If someone kicks you for using them, they're idiots
Hi. O nitoced that links to builds in the descriptions load empty (no skills, gear etc.)
They don't... it's a common issue with some versions of the RUclips app because the editor links are quite long. For me they load as intended. Try opening them with a different pc/phone/outside of the app :)
you wrote sword for power chrono but you are using a dagger?
amazing work, what a god, i am always waiting for your vids with good simple builds, and what an amazing piece of art was this upload! my casual guildies will be really happy thanks to you, thanks for your work!
Excellent video and website. I want to take my revenant to another level, and it's intimidating, but with your help I just might be able to do this. Kudos to you and your work!
WOW... just WOW!!! Great video. Already tried out several of the builds and love them all. Thank you
Where and how can i check my dmg done
How do you get all those buffs at once?
first
No u
The condi druid numbers you are getting. Is this after the recent nerf?
Yes it is, did the parses for it a few days ago
Thanks for the response! Holy moly. I built this like 2 days before those nerfs came out and since then Condi Druid hasn't even featured on the Snowcrows benchmark. @@MaselMMO Thank you.
28:44 how did you not overheat?
Folge skill 3, corona burst, continues to grant heat after you cast it, but will not cause you to overheat when it caps it.
That way, it maintains a high heat level for longer after exiting forge, increasing your damage. You should try to cast corona burst right before exiting forge to make that happen :)
Never apologise for playing heavy music
In the Dragonhunter bench, you seem to be using Big Game Hunter, cause the f1 tether is lasting 12 seconds, but in the linked build you're using Heavy Light instead. Which one do you recommend for actual use? Using Heavy Light allows you to use f1 for utility, while Big Game Hunter is probably more damage, right?
Also in the linked Willbender build, you have scepter instead of axe like in the video.
He notes the scepter in the condi willbender is only used for ranged fights. But he should add axe to the build linked, yes. Axe/torch melee, scepter/torch at range
Great work, man!
So will all these change in a few days?
Not really. The changes from the preview are meant to lift some niche builds up.
It could be that the new weapons are broken OP for some specs of course, but I hope they don't do a relic mess again
@@MaselMMO thanks
Hi for your power herald rotation, can i use the same rotation for quickness herald? Thanks
On pherald he is staying on 0 upkeep in Glint and -3 upkeep in Shiro.
On qherald i'm used to -1 in Glint (nature + chaos) and doing other facets on cooldown with 4 aa chains -> -1 in Shiro (just Impossible Odds) and 5 aa chains.
This provides the most reliable quickness stuck at almost +30 sec in berserker gear🫠
@@luccianheh5971 Thank you so much the good tips. Only now i realized it is possible to generate quickness with just -1 as you have mentioned. Just curious do u turn on and consum your heal facet as well? or Just leave it off.
@@augenezum in most situations i just double click healing facet and survive even when i fked up telegraphed mechanics and/or my staff is not available now for blocking.
Regen boon is not really a thing without healing power stat and you are still helping your healer with Glints Facet of nature.
@@luccianheh5971 Thank you very much
@@augenezum also don't forget that some encounters need stability, so you swap Shiro for Jalis. A lot of open world meta events like Dragons End need a lot of stability so pugs don't die instantly.
Hello, Your DH build doesn't reach 100% crit, I guess their is something wrong then ?
Edit : Also curious why S/S instead of GS on vindicator :o
Edit 2 : tested both weapon on vindi, s/s is way better, thx for the build, ton of fun !
Dude.. there's a huge balance patch coming in like a week.
Has anyone some tips on the power untamed rotation?
I cannot seem to get beyond 31k dps. The only thing I'm missing is my main hand sword is exotic instead of ascended ( axe is ascended).
Rest is all the same setup and rotation as the example.
Exotic Sword instead of Asc will cost you about 5.5% damage so that's at least 1.5-2k you're missing there. If you don't have Infusions, that's another 1k or so, if you're not using the right food & Utility that's another 1.5-2k. The rest probably just comes down to being too slow to use skills, cancelling skills by accidents or interrupting AA chains.
Idk, I feel like I'm doing something fundamentally wrong
Same gear (exotic), same build, Berserker rotation, only missing food, full buffs/debuff .. I can barely hit 22k .. like, I don't think food is going to add 17k damage
what do you mean when you say you're missing food and "buffs/debuffs"? food and enhancements won't make up 17k, but if you didn't actually give yourself boons or put condis on the golem, that difference is easily explained
@@b7jay357 I was only missing food and ascended gear, I used full buffs on me and full debuffs on the golem.
I tried some other specs without food buffs and with power chrono I hit like 31k at least, but I feel like for some of the builds I'm just doing things wrong and idk what.
Can you do this tier list with open world situation ( no given boon from start)
/silently crawls towards the old video 'cuz no SotO on the account/
great video. don't like the music, had to mute it.
Told y'all
Tier lists are BS! Don't buy what those pretentious streamers say every 3 months.
they not bs you just dont get purpuse of tier lists ^^ its abut best of the best that dont mean other options are bad
good, but the golem don't hit back
the whole point is to show the kind of dps to expect with easier rotations so you can both deal decent damage while freeing up space in your head to deal with mechanics at the same time
Great video. Can I put in a request for a guide series on the easiest to play solo builds? Stuff that can solo HoT HPs, PoF legendary bounties, T3 Rifts, that sort of thing. I feel that that's the real test of a class and the most functionally useful to have. And not builds that require sweaty gameplay as probably any class can solo that stuff if you're skilled enough. That sweet spot of soloing hard content without needing to be a god gamer.
A few of your "beginner recommendations" is this video I wouldn't play because they're far too spammy. That's not a complaint against you but against the game itself. Pressing all your buttons constantly is just bad gameplay, in my opinion. I know a lot of people prefer the high Actions Per Minute style though, I just prefer not having to playing Flight of the Bumblebee on my keyboard in order to do damage or survive.
You can look into the builds I have on the wiki page. I have open world build videos for many specs too, where I showcase harder solos.
Thing is, solos are niche content. Most of the time you are not alone, even if you want to. When you start to solo bounties, HPs and the like, more often than not people will join you. I know many people are interested in solo builds, but I don't think putting a lot of money into building for it is a good idea.
use grenadekit instead of bombkit on condi mech, it's better cause its ranged.
It's not better per se, it can be if you use it right. It's harder to use right though, which is why I went for bomb kit. Grenade kit is definitely an excellent choice, that's why it's used on the SC benchmark for J-drive
@@MaselMMO it's more useful because it's ranged which makes it better imo. Too many encounters in which you benefit from that.
@@Ecoxiss Both options are equally good.