Ryan, you are changing the world we live in one video at a time. Your contribution makes us SAFE, Educated, and Well informed. Thank you, I sincerely appreciate your knowledge and your valuable time.
Ryan J appreciate all the info tremendously! The inspector references and situations w/ outcome and decision making is truly appreciated and approach to explaining to contractors is priceless. Thank you sir
My grandparents had a turquoise blue GE 40 inch double oven range with two receptacles one which was controlled by a timer, to plug a percolator for example, into and set the timer so you can wake up to a fresh pot of java, and fluorescent light on the back. Range dated from 1967 when they purchased the home and still worked when we sold the home after Grandma passed a year and a half ago. They built things to last a lifetime back in the day 😀
Glad they had good luck with thier GE oven. My wife purchased a junk GE gas oven that was nothing but a big lemon. GE joke designers had the oven & broiler ignitors in series with the gas valves so they burnt out fast. Replaced three oven ignitors in 6 years. Oven glass window blow apart a few minutes after I turned oven on. Of course junk GE ignitors cost 250 to 300% more then all other brands. When oven ignitors burnt out again I junked the lemon
It always amazed me that the NEC has the great minimum spacing & amount of receptacles for houses but next to no where in offices and commercial spaces. Was in one building that had no receptacles in a recently renovated maybe 25 by 30' main entrance that had rugs and sets of electrically operated doors at both ends. Would see the janitor vacuuming rugs with an extension cord plugged into next room and electric doors close on the extension cord. So called project engineer never taught they would ever need power in that space. Same place had a long maybe 80'wide hallway with rugs and no receptacles.
Your joke about the floor box in the middle of the room to meet the receptacle requirements immediately made me think about if you did it with a cord pendant instead. Technically wouldn’t that count? lol
I had the same question. No, it wouldn’t count. This must be an oversight. The pendant receptacle needs to be within 18” of a wall within the wall-space it serves.
"Funny topic." Ha ha funny? Funny like I amuse you funny? LOL Btw, I don't recall ever even reading or being taught 210.50. The 6' rule is very necessary. Nice work, Ryan.
Before 1935 receptacle outlets weren't required at all. In 1935 the code language changed from "recommended " to "required " and required at least one receptacle outlet in each 500 square foot floor area, which explains why until about the late 1920s some appliances were still being sold with an edison base plug on the cord
I would argue that receptacles are located for safety as well - for example, if there are not enough receptacles in the right locations, occupants are likely to string extension cords, which are a safety hazard. Also, cords across doorways, or thru doorways, etc. So actually receptacle locations are a big part of electrical safety.
Hey Ryan, Question for you. Lets say you have a mini split head (indoor unit) fed from a different circuit than the condenser. Would you consider the head an appliance or air conditioning equipment for the purposes of disconnect location?
Hello, As I was watching your video during the kitchen counter top receptacle segment I noticed the receptacle at the end of the counter is mounted incorrectly. It's upside down. At 33.23 you will see this.
I don't want to be disrespectful or arrogant about this issue. Please consider it only a correction and not a putdown. This has been discussed thousands of times by lots of people in many many forums. The code book does not address up or down. If it did then it would also require or specifically comment about horizontal outlets. It does not. This is personal or a business practice. Not a code practice. If you think it does please site the article in the NEC. NEC requires the outlet to be installed as listed by the manufacture or listed by certifying authority (UL and similar). Someone could make a linear outlet where the ground, neutral and hot are side by side. As long as it was installed according to the manufacture or listing authority it would be good to go. No one at this point would do that but you never know.
It’s simple would somebody put a lamp there? Would somebody put a end table for phones a Christmas tree? Something decorative in the answer is yes. Put a receptacle there.
Receptacles are required in an attic that contains a furnace or other equipment requiring servicing or maintenance, must be within 25 feet of the equipment. Otherwise, no because an attic is not considered a habitable space.
@Sparky-ww5re A garage isn't a habitable space, either, but is generally recognized as an area where work or maintenance is to be performed. Especially as attics become part of the conditioned space in high-performance buildings, I hope requirements will be expanded.
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Ryan, you are changing the world we live in one video at a time. Your contribution makes us SAFE, Educated, and Well informed. Thank you, I sincerely appreciate your knowledge and your valuable time.
Ryan J appreciate all the info tremendously!
The inspector references and situations w/ outcome and decision making is truly appreciated and approach to explaining to contractors is priceless.
Thank you sir
My grandparents had a turquoise blue GE 40 inch double oven range with two receptacles one which was controlled by a timer, to plug a percolator for example, into and set the timer so you can wake up to a fresh pot of java, and fluorescent light on the back. Range dated from 1967 when they purchased the home and still worked when we sold the home after Grandma passed a year and a half ago. They built things to last a lifetime back in the day 😀
Glad they had good luck with thier GE oven. My wife purchased a junk GE gas oven that was nothing but a big lemon. GE joke designers had the oven & broiler ignitors in series with the gas valves so they burnt out fast. Replaced three oven ignitors in 6 years. Oven glass window blow apart a few minutes after I turned oven on. Of course junk GE ignitors cost 250 to 300% more then all other brands. When oven ignitors burnt out again I junked the lemon
It always amazed me that the NEC has the great minimum spacing & amount of receptacles for houses but next to no where in offices and commercial spaces. Was in one building that had no receptacles in a recently renovated maybe 25 by 30' main entrance that had rugs and sets of electrically operated doors at both ends. Would see the janitor vacuuming rugs with an extension cord plugged into next room and electric doors close on the extension cord. So called project engineer never taught they would ever need power in that space. Same place had a long maybe 80'wide hallway with rugs and no receptacles.
Always tuning in for the latest. Thanks Ryan.
Your joke about the floor box in the middle of the room to meet the receptacle requirements immediately made me think about if you did it with a cord pendant instead. Technically wouldn’t that count? lol
I had the same question. No, it wouldn’t count. This must be an oversight.
The pendant receptacle needs to be within 18” of a wall within the wall-space it serves.
33:55 Your the first person I've heard say resident recepticale as many as you want on a circuit. I agree
Thank You, Ryan, very informative.
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"Funny topic." Ha ha funny? Funny like I amuse you funny? LOL
Btw, I don't recall ever even reading or being taught 210.50. The 6' rule is very necessary. Nice work, Ryan.
I'm a clown? I'm here to amuse you? 😀
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Before 1935 receptacle outlets weren't required at all. In 1935 the code language changed from "recommended " to "required " and required at least one receptacle outlet in each 500 square foot floor area, which explains why until about the late 1920s some appliances were still being sold with an edison base plug on the cord
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Originally the NEC was focused on fire prevention. Electrocution came latter. Now we are onto where the outlets are located, which drives me crazy.
I would argue that receptacles are located for safety as well - for example, if there are not enough receptacles in the right locations, occupants are likely to string extension cords, which are a safety hazard. Also, cords across doorways, or thru doorways, etc. So actually receptacle locations are a big part of electrical safety.
Hey Ryan, Question for you. Lets say you have a mini split head (indoor unit) fed from a different circuit than the condenser. Would you consider the head an appliance or air conditioning equipment for the purposes of disconnect location?
I wish receptacles were placed higher up the wall. Easier to get to.
Places in Colorado won’t allow more than 8 on a circuit including 8 led lights count as 1 full circuit
Thank you Ryan. Do you mind if I share some of this with my IAEI group (Central Pennsylvania Chapter) while discussing 210.52?
Of course you can share it! I'll upload Parts II and III over the next couple weeks.
Thanks Ryan, I think our group will enjoy this and it will lead to some good discussion.
Are parts 2 and 3 available yet? I looked but couldn’t find them, thank you.
Not yet. I'll post them in the next couple of weeks.
Hello, As I was watching your video during the kitchen counter top receptacle segment I noticed the receptacle at the end of the counter is mounted incorrectly. It's upside down. At 33.23 you will see this.
I don't want to be disrespectful or arrogant about this issue. Please consider it only a correction and not a putdown. This has been discussed thousands of times by lots of people in many many forums. The code book does not address up or down. If it did then it would also require or specifically comment about horizontal outlets. It does not. This is personal or a business practice. Not a code practice. If you think it does please site the article in the NEC. NEC requires the outlet to be installed as listed by the manufacture or listed by certifying authority (UL and similar). Someone could make a linear outlet where the ground, neutral and hot are side by side. As long as it was installed according to the manufacture or listing authority it would be good to go. No one at this point would do that but you never know.
It’s simple would somebody put a lamp there? Would somebody put a end table for phones a Christmas tree? Something decorative in the answer is yes. Put a receptacle there.
at 31 minutes ... and if the "Hallway" is over 10'?
I would say that particular hallway is about 30-40' and needs one receptacle.
But WHY arent receptacles required in attics?
Why should they Be?
@bnava1855 You must not spend enough time in attics, or you'd want to know too.
Receptacles are required in an attic that contains a furnace or other equipment requiring servicing or maintenance, must be within 25 feet of the equipment. Otherwise, no because an attic is not considered a habitable space.
@Sparky-ww5re A garage isn't a habitable space, either, but is generally recognized as an area where work or maintenance is to be performed. Especially as attics become part of the conditioned space in high-performance buildings, I hope requirements will be expanded.
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