I like to think the madarame boss fight 2nd phase is an extended baton pass tutorial. You use his clones to increase your baton pass bonuses so you can absolutely go ham on the boss itself. Which it does perfectly since a good chunk of that palace was about showing you how to baton pass effectively
@@Yarharsuperpirate I 100% agree, and after doing Okumara I realized that. My only problem was even on hard difficulty (granted this is from memory) I didn’t really NEED to use it and I don’t remember the fight giving me a ton of trouble. It may even have been a first try boss. It didn’t quite work for me due to that, but that could be a skill issue on my part honestly
When I got to that boss, the clones ended up all being the same type which - if I remember correctly - 2 of my teammates weren't weak to. So I simply left the other 2 to die and destroyed the boss with the 2 that resisted the clones attacks.
@ that makes sense honestly. The RNG on that fight will either make it a nightmare or probably pretty easy now that you mention it. I could of gotten a bit lucky on my win.
I definitely think that Okumura's palace was by far the weakest. On top of the story weaknesses with Mona throwing a tantrum and Haru being basically sidelined, the theming felt really off. Throughout the game there is a consistent theming of thievery. This is reflected not just in the characters/personas but also in each palace. A castle, museum, bank, tomb, casino and cruise ship are all quite tropy places the perform some kind of heist or robbery. A space station just feels really out of place for me, not to mention the whole space model kit link felt really tenuous to me, like they just thought of the workers = robots thing and worked backwards from there.
Yeah I hear you there. I think if they dropped the spaceport and just really dialed in on "Factory in which robots/employees are being run into the ground" and kept with it, that would of been my preference. The spaceport theme felt a bit slapped on, I'd agree on working backwards. A generic factory theme wouldn't be the best for thievery I'd say but it sounds more cohesive in my mind I think.
I think the Futaba palace is Morgana's worst character moment rather than the Okumura arc i have reasons why i think this and it ultimately leads up to the arc
@@jacobfoster1382 Morgana is on Ryuji's case from the start of the game, they were constantly trading jabs. Mona was a total hypocrite in that arc. The only thing Ryuji really did was fumble the apology in an out of character moment written purely to justify Morgana's anger.
I thought that's the point. The Thieves don't really want to take on Okumura initially and it shows since the palace feels so wrong compared to the normal theming of the other palaces.
The changes for each Palace between Royal and Vanilla P5 Kamoshida; the addition of a Cognitive Shiho dressed as a "Sexy Bunny" Madarame; The Color Clones are new. Kaneshiro; The order of Phases Masayoshi Shido; The 1 on 1 fight was added in, taking how the anime goes.
@@aaroniscool7521 Categorically incorrect, the wiki lists all the changes and that includes _removing_ mouse puzzles and adding the 1v1. Okumura's fight also added the Cognitive Haru (same as Shiho for Kamoshida), and the bossfight against Cognitive Wakaba had additional questions -- where if you answered wrong Futaba wouldn't be able to aim the wooden harpoon to hit the Sphinx correctly.
@CelestiaLily don't need to use the wiki. I've played through the game twelve times between both versions and I recently finished the game again less than a couple days ago. The mice puzzles are in both versions and the 1v1 with shido is also in both versions. The other points are also true however cognitive Haru only turns into her robot form in royal but she is still present in both versions but you don't fight her in the vanilla game.
@@aaroniscool7521 Honestly I'm willing to concede my info as incorrect, as long as the youtube channel _Boss Fight Database_ has terrible footage or is some kinda massive hoax -- their videos on Shido and Okumura from 7 years ago are based off vanilla P5, and I can't seem to find *any* inclusion of Cognitive Haru in Okumura's fight nor the 1v1 in Shido's fight. This is also corroborated by the channel _WillJV2_ with their separate playlists for P5 and P5R -- both on Merciless -- and videos available for comparing the bossfights directly. One commenter on Shido's Royal bossfight goes _"I like that they added a Joker vs Shido section for this fight"._ The mice puzzles are harder to explain since you're definitely _right_ -- they are in both versions -- but the specific route you *need* to go to each destination (the 5 letters) has been shortened in Royal. You can still explore multiple optional paths for extra loot, but the *mandatory* amount of puzzles is less steps total. And since I got this from a GameFAQs thread called "6th Palace changes **spoilers**", that info could actually be totally bogus and I'm cool with that lmao TBH _I'm_ the one impressed by 12 playthroughs, that takes dedication and I admire the commitment to seeing all the different things both versions have to offer!
You may have a point, for me the fight wasn't incredible, but that in my mind felt more like a personal mismatch/not my taste rather than a "the fight is actually bad." It has value despite not being my favorite, but it wasn't like offensive to the point of it being a big deal. It's just fine i guess to me.
I am wondering what your rankings would be purely on the music, because personally the music really exemplifies the gameplay, with nearly all songs reflecting the game so well (I believe replacing Life will change, for example). And I feel the songs really make the palace feel so alive. Ark made Shido’s really grande and felt like the finale. Gentle Madman made Maruki’s feel empty and sad. Etc. (Side note I agree Kaneshiro’s palace was weaker storywise, I feel like he had no relation to shido/ effected the overall story too much, but Price is such a damn good track)
Hmmm It's really hard on that. Like you mentioned Price is amazing, and so is Maruki's theme. All of them I think are on similar levels for the most part. I think the only weaker ones for me were Okumara and Madarame. Basically you could fill in the middle however you wanted with the rest, but the bottom would be those, and the top would be Maruki and price. I'm glad you get me on Kaneshiro, that was a part of the game that felt a bit iffy but Makoto had to get introduced somehow.
@@Obsoleek Personally Kamoshida’s theme was probably the lowest for me. And I enjoyed both Kaneshiro and Okumara, their palaces just felt weaker (hadn’t finished the video when writing the first comment). It is a shame that Haru’s character arc was overshadowed by Morgana, especially when he had the entire game and Haru had the same amount of screen time as it takes me to blink.
@@Murdock1260 I actually didn't mind Kamoshidas theme, was a fair one for me. Also I couldn't agree more. Like I know a lot of people meme on Morgana being annoying but that ONE PART really cemented him as a character I DO NOT like. I still don't feel like I know Haru very well. Her confidant from my memory feels in some details, but that arc was just NOT IT
@@Obsoleek I also don’t mind it too much, I just prefer all the other ones over it. I didn’t realise the palaces had different themes until price, but Madarame’s theme grew on me as a background track for a game. And as for morgana, I didn’t get why people clowned on him at the start, but I just grew to dislike him over the game, and him stealing haru’s arc did feel like a major part of why.
I actually liked the Olumura fight, firstly because I'd already put enough time into Hifumi's Confidant that I could just swap, and secondly because my Mainline instincts told me to stockpile attack items. I actually got to engage with the mechanics of the battle system and have some fun with Baton Pass for once, which was honestly refreshing after how painfully easy all the other fights were. Yeah, it's a bit trial-and-error, but that's an innate part of MegaTen. You either struggle through or look shit up on the wiki.
Oh my god I’m so stupid why didn’t I ever think of using Hifumi swap back then! That’s smart. I feel like the first time I used the swap was probably Yaldabaoth, I slept on that mechanic Also I agree baton passing is a blast, the only thing I disliked is the inconsistency in difficulty. Okumara isn’t hard if you use your brain more, but before that fight I didn’t really need to if you get me !
@Obsoleek I know, but the global release probably won't be long until it's out, Persona 6 has a good chance of being released at the end of next year so they're probably going to release P5X as soon as possible so it doesn't get overshadowed
@@Shadow-Joop-157 I think at the game awards we will get the p5x announcement. I’d agree with you everywhere else too. Persona 6 has to come out next year imo
@Obsoleek Especially next year because both P3 reload and metaphor Refantazio and SMT 5 vengeance came out this year, they released every big game except 6
I was glad to see that you (and other similar videos) broke down your reasoning for why you ranked each Palace the way you did; it made me realize that I'm generally higher on the gameplay than most people are, but also am a little more polarized when it comes to stories. For instance, I personally gave the Bank's story and the Spaceport's story really low scores while giving the Castle, Tomb, Casino, and Laboratory perfect scores, but then simultaneously didn't give any of the puzzles/exploration anything lower than a middling 4 on my goofy little 7-point scale. My ranking was: 1 Center of Melancholy 2 Ark of Pride 3 Casino of Envy 4 Tomb of Wrath 5 Castle of Lust Museum of Vanity Prison of Sloth (yes they all tied with a score of 16/21 each; based purely on vibes I'll say Castle > Prison > Museum) 8 Bank of Gluttony 9 Spaceport of Greed
interesting! seems like you are pretty much either all about the story, the story is meh, or you hate it sorta. It's interesting to see how everyone ranks the palaces. I can atleast agree with your top 5, although I think castle of lust is better than ark of pride in some ways!
While the 2nd and 3rd palaces didn't hit as hard, I think they were important in setting expectations that would then be broken by Futaba and Sae's palaces. They took the "corrupted motives/heart/treasure" motifs and completely subvert the players' expectations at a point where we thought we knew exactly what to expect. Futaba's palace was perfect and part of the reason was because of where it was placed 💖
Great video, but the presentation could be improved : remembering grades of the older palace "8.2" is not easy when you talk about the next palace, which mean that outside of the extremes I have no idea what the actual ranking is by the end of the video.
I would also add that numbers don't really convey much as most of these are subjective. I think going with a system of saying good, bad, great, horrible, etc., makes it more clear as to how you really feel about something.
I didnt know you played persona. I myself am on this game right now for the first time in the middle of marukis caste right now. Now idk if this was a skill issue, but i have to say the bosses were really hard sometimes. (Yes I play on merciless) Like especially madarame was not fun at all because of that. I think i died like over 10 times on that one. The mechanic with what painting can absorb what was not really self explanetory and that fucking nose one hit my allies when hitting the weakness. And then it got another turn and could eliminate my enitre party on its first turn. That is like the only rason i would rank the boss a bit down lol
Glad a fellow persona enjoyer exists here :) Merciless is both easier and harder because the increased weakness damage. I could totally imagine me getting DESTROYED by madarame if it was my first playthrough on merciless. I didn't struggle as much on hard, but if those weak points did 3x damage like they do on Merciless, I would of gotten destroyed.
@ well if i remember correctly merciless increases both your and the bosses weakness damage. Sadly the hard part (the bosses) don’t have weaknesses so you don’t get the benefit.
Yeah you are correct! The only part of Madarame that had weaknesses would of been phase 2, which one wrong move would result in the clones destroying ya. I didn't struggle as much on the painting bit though, just took some trial and error.
way too generous to the dig shit Okumura arc 6/10??? thats some IGN bs right there. The space tunnels alone make it deserve a 3 everything else is mediocre + the boss fight (which is the easiest on merciless and the hardest if playing on any other difficulty) and it's a 1. I love Haru but it's literally a meme how unimportant she is. This is arc is a 4 TOPS and I'm being generous.
Honestly the tunnels I think I had to backtrack one time, but I may have just lucked out tbh. I think if I were to deduct points from anything it would definitely be the story of that arc. A 6 was generous for that I think. Also liking haru and seeing her robbed like that ;-;
@@Obsoleek At least Haru got screen time in strikers :D (Also I meant the tunnels were irritating and time consuming i.e. just horribly un-fun. I never meant to imply they were challenging)
here is the thing with okumura's boss fight there is a confidant which can help you Hifumi the star confidant which if you max her out you can switch out party members i always make sure to max her out before this boss fight, plus Hifumi is a very cute girl
hifumi is the best honestly, shes one of my favorites after my first playthrough. at the time of this fight I didn't consider that confidant ability, but that would have helped a lot!
@@Obsoleek hifumi's ability is just very useful for boss fights since if your sp is getting low you can simply switch party members who tend to have full sp the other characttr with a insanely useful ability Ryuji if you need to grind levels overkill save soo much time
I actually enjoyed the challenge too, but at the same time I didn't love the difficulty spike if that makes sense. Pretty easy bosses were the norm and then suddenly it went kinda crazy there.
Yeah people seemed to not like that one, I thought the content was interesting but it seems people disagreed because people knew it already I suppose? Happens.
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1:46 “the mechanics aren’t really challenging”
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@@adron9692 footage isn’t mine :) I played on hard difficulty for my first time but unfortunately didn’t record my journey :(
I like to think the madarame boss fight 2nd phase is an extended baton pass tutorial. You use his clones to increase your baton pass bonuses so you can absolutely go ham on the boss itself. Which it does perfectly since a good chunk of that palace was about showing you how to baton pass effectively
@@Yarharsuperpirate I 100% agree, and after doing Okumara I realized that. My only problem was even on hard difficulty (granted this is from memory) I didn’t really NEED to use it and I don’t remember the fight giving me a ton of trouble. It may even have been a first try boss. It didn’t quite work for me due to that, but that could be a skill issue on my part honestly
When I got to that boss, the clones ended up all being the same type which - if I remember correctly - 2 of my teammates weren't weak to. So I simply left the other 2 to die and destroyed the boss with the 2 that resisted the clones attacks.
@ that makes sense honestly. The RNG on that fight will either make it a nightmare or probably pretty easy now that you mention it. I could of gotten a bit lucky on my win.
I definitely think that Okumura's palace was by far the weakest. On top of the story weaknesses with Mona throwing a tantrum and Haru being basically sidelined, the theming felt really off. Throughout the game there is a consistent theming of thievery. This is reflected not just in the characters/personas but also in each palace. A castle, museum, bank, tomb, casino and cruise ship are all quite tropy places the perform some kind of heist or robbery. A space station just feels really out of place for me, not to mention the whole space model kit link felt really tenuous to me, like they just thought of the workers = robots thing and worked backwards from there.
Yeah I hear you there. I think if they dropped the spaceport and just really dialed in on "Factory in which robots/employees are being run into the ground" and kept with it, that would of been my preference. The spaceport theme felt a bit slapped on, I'd agree on working backwards.
A generic factory theme wouldn't be the best for thievery I'd say but it sounds more cohesive in my mind I think.
I think the Futaba palace is Morgana's worst character moment rather than the Okumura arc i have reasons why i think this and it ultimately leads up to the arc
Ryuji was the one who called him useless so?
@@jacobfoster1382 Morgana is on Ryuji's case from the start of the game, they were constantly trading jabs. Mona was a total hypocrite in that arc. The only thing Ryuji really did was fumble the apology in an out of character moment written purely to justify Morgana's anger.
I thought that's the point. The Thieves don't really want to take on Okumura initially and it shows since the palace feels so wrong compared to the normal theming of the other palaces.
The changes for each Palace between Royal and Vanilla P5
Kamoshida; the addition of a Cognitive Shiho dressed as a "Sexy Bunny"
Madarame; The Color Clones are new.
Kaneshiro; The order of Phases
Masayoshi Shido; The 1 on 1 fight was added in, taking how the anime goes.
The 1v1 fight between shido and Joker was in the vanilla game. Nothing was different with the cruise ship between both versions
@@aaroniscool7521
Categorically incorrect, the wiki lists all the changes and that includes _removing_ mouse puzzles and adding the 1v1.
Okumura's fight also added the Cognitive Haru (same as Shiho for Kamoshida), and the bossfight against Cognitive Wakaba had additional questions -- where if you answered wrong Futaba wouldn't be able to aim the wooden harpoon to hit the Sphinx correctly.
@CelestiaLily don't need to use the wiki. I've played through the game twelve times between both versions and I recently finished the game again less than a couple days ago. The mice puzzles are in both versions and the 1v1 with shido is also in both versions. The other points are also true however cognitive Haru only turns into her robot form in royal but she is still present in both versions but you don't fight her in the vanilla game.
@@aaroniscool7521I can assure you the 1v1 with shido was not in vanilla, literally search up any vanilla shido boss fight and you'll see
@@aaroniscool7521
Honestly I'm willing to concede my info as incorrect, as long as the youtube channel _Boss Fight Database_ has terrible footage or is some kinda massive hoax -- their videos on Shido and Okumura from 7 years ago are based off vanilla P5, and I can't seem to find *any* inclusion of Cognitive Haru in Okumura's fight nor the 1v1 in Shido's fight.
This is also corroborated by the channel _WillJV2_ with their separate playlists for P5 and P5R -- both on Merciless -- and videos available for comparing the bossfights directly. One commenter on Shido's Royal bossfight goes _"I like that they added a Joker vs Shido section for this fight"._
The mice puzzles are harder to explain since you're definitely _right_ -- they are in both versions -- but the specific route you *need* to go to each destination (the 5 letters) has been shortened in Royal.
You can still explore multiple optional paths for extra loot, but the *mandatory* amount of puzzles is less steps total. And since I got this from a GameFAQs thread called "6th Palace changes **spoilers**", that info could actually be totally bogus and I'm cool with that lmao
TBH _I'm_ the one impressed by 12 playthroughs, that takes dedication and I admire the commitment to seeing all the different things both versions have to offer!
4:30 "unmemorable and i didn't really like it" does not sound like 7/10 material
You may have a point, for me the fight wasn't incredible, but that in my mind felt more like a personal mismatch/not my taste rather than a "the fight is actually bad." It has value despite not being my favorite, but it wasn't like offensive to the point of it being a big deal. It's just fine i guess to me.
I am wondering what your rankings would be purely on the music, because personally the music really exemplifies the gameplay, with nearly all songs reflecting the game so well (I believe replacing Life will change, for example). And I feel the songs really make the palace feel so alive. Ark made Shido’s really grande and felt like the finale. Gentle Madman made Maruki’s feel empty and sad. Etc.
(Side note I agree Kaneshiro’s palace was weaker storywise, I feel like he had no relation to shido/ effected the overall story too much, but Price is such a damn good track)
Hmmm It's really hard on that. Like you mentioned Price is amazing, and so is Maruki's theme. All of them I think are on similar levels for the most part. I think the only weaker ones for me were Okumara and Madarame.
Basically you could fill in the middle however you wanted with the rest, but the bottom would be those, and the top would be Maruki and price.
I'm glad you get me on Kaneshiro, that was a part of the game that felt a bit iffy but Makoto had to get introduced somehow.
@@Obsoleek Personally Kamoshida’s theme was probably the lowest for me. And I enjoyed both Kaneshiro and Okumara, their palaces just felt weaker (hadn’t finished the video when writing the first comment). It is a shame that Haru’s character arc was overshadowed by Morgana, especially when he had the entire game and Haru had the same amount of screen time as it takes me to blink.
@@Murdock1260 I actually didn't mind Kamoshidas theme, was a fair one for me. Also I couldn't agree more. Like I know a lot of people meme on Morgana being annoying but that ONE PART really cemented him as a character I DO NOT like. I still don't feel like I know Haru very well. Her confidant from my memory feels in some details, but that arc was just NOT IT
@@Obsoleek I also don’t mind it too much, I just prefer all the other ones over it. I didn’t realise the palaces had different themes until price, but Madarame’s theme grew on me as a background track for a game. And as for morgana, I didn’t get why people clowned on him at the start, but I just grew to dislike him over the game, and him stealing haru’s arc did feel like a major part of why.
I actually liked the Olumura fight, firstly because I'd already put enough time into Hifumi's Confidant that I could just swap, and secondly because my Mainline instincts told me to stockpile attack items. I actually got to engage with the mechanics of the battle system and have some fun with Baton Pass for once, which was honestly refreshing after how painfully easy all the other fights were. Yeah, it's a bit trial-and-error, but that's an innate part of MegaTen. You either struggle through or look shit up on the wiki.
Oh my god I’m so stupid why didn’t I ever think of using Hifumi swap back then! That’s smart. I feel like the first time I used the swap was probably Yaldabaoth, I slept on that mechanic
Also I agree baton passing is a blast, the only thing I disliked is the inconsistency in difficulty. Okumara isn’t hard if you use your brain more, but before that fight I didn’t really need to if you get me !
I can't wait to play Persona 5 Phantom X.
The first palace in P5X is bigger than the biggest palace in 5 royal
@@Shadow-Joop-157 it feels super good I just wish the global release was out as using a translation mod isn’t it :(
@Obsoleek I know, but the global release probably won't be long until it's out, Persona 6 has a good chance of being released at the end of next year so they're probably going to release P5X as soon as possible so it doesn't get overshadowed
@@Shadow-Joop-157 I think at the game awards we will get the p5x announcement. I’d agree with you everywhere else too. Persona 6 has to come out next year imo
@Obsoleek Especially next year because both P3 reload and metaphor Refantazio and SMT 5 vengeance came out this year, they released every big game except 6
@ yeah I think mid 2025 is the date. Metaphor needs some time to breath
I was glad to see that you (and other similar videos) broke down your reasoning for why you ranked each Palace the way you did; it made me realize that I'm generally higher on the gameplay than most people are, but also am a little more polarized when it comes to stories. For instance, I personally gave the Bank's story and the Spaceport's story really low scores while giving the Castle, Tomb, Casino, and Laboratory perfect scores, but then simultaneously didn't give any of the puzzles/exploration anything lower than a middling 4 on my goofy little 7-point scale.
My ranking was:
1 Center of Melancholy
2 Ark of Pride
3 Casino of Envy
4 Tomb of Wrath
5 Castle of Lust
Museum of Vanity
Prison of Sloth
(yes they all tied with a score of 16/21 each; based purely on vibes I'll say Castle > Prison > Museum)
8 Bank of Gluttony
9 Spaceport of Greed
interesting! seems like you are pretty much either all about the story, the story is meh, or you hate it sorta. It's interesting to see how everyone ranks the palaces. I can atleast agree with your top 5, although I think castle of lust is better than ark of pride in some ways!
While the 2nd and 3rd palaces didn't hit as hard, I think they were important in setting expectations that would then be broken by Futaba and Sae's palaces. They took the "corrupted motives/heart/treasure" motifs and completely subvert the players' expectations at a point where we thought we knew exactly what to expect. Futaba's palace was perfect and part of the reason was because of where it was placed 💖
Okumuras stupid robot battle can eat goat poop.
not wrong ngl
Beat it last night took me 5 hours then i looked up a guide and realized 5th phase bots are weak to curse beat it first try after that 😅
Great video, but the presentation could be improved : remembering grades of the older palace "8.2" is not easy when you talk about the next palace, which mean that outside of the extremes I have no idea what the actual ranking is by the end of the video.
@@MoiMagnus1er ooo really good point thank you !
I would also add that numbers don't really convey much as most of these are subjective. I think going with a system of saying good, bad, great, horrible, etc., makes it more clear as to how you really feel about something.
@ thanks as well for more insight, going forward I can definitely adjust these in future videos thanks to y’all.
I didnt know you played persona. I myself am on this game right now for the first time in the middle of marukis caste right now. Now idk if this was a skill issue, but i have to say the bosses were really hard sometimes. (Yes I play on merciless) Like especially madarame was not fun at all because of that. I think i died like over 10 times on that one. The mechanic with what painting can absorb what was not really self explanetory and that fucking nose one hit my allies when hitting the weakness. And then it got another turn and could eliminate my enitre party on its first turn. That is like the only rason i would rank the boss a bit down lol
Glad a fellow persona enjoyer exists here :)
Merciless is both easier and harder because the increased weakness damage. I could totally imagine me getting DESTROYED by madarame if it was my first playthrough on merciless. I didn't struggle as much on hard, but if those weak points did 3x damage like they do on Merciless, I would of gotten destroyed.
@ well if i remember correctly merciless increases both your and the bosses weakness damage. Sadly the hard part (the bosses) don’t have weaknesses so you don’t get the benefit.
Yeah you are correct! The only part of Madarame that had weaknesses would of been phase 2, which one wrong move would result in the clones destroying ya. I didn't struggle as much on the painting bit though, just took some trial and error.
Cool video man I'm new to your channel I like that you explain things in detail
Thank you so much :)
way too generous to the dig shit Okumura arc 6/10??? thats some IGN bs right there. The space tunnels alone make it deserve a 3 everything else is mediocre + the boss fight (which is the easiest on merciless and the hardest if playing on any other difficulty) and it's a 1. I love Haru but it's literally a meme how unimportant she is. This is arc is a 4 TOPS and I'm being generous.
Honestly the tunnels I think I had to backtrack one time, but I may have just lucked out tbh. I think if I were to deduct points from anything it would definitely be the story of that arc. A 6 was generous for that I think.
Also liking haru and seeing her robbed like that ;-;
@@Obsoleek At least Haru got screen time in strikers :D (Also I meant the tunnels were irritating and time consuming i.e. just horribly un-fun. I never meant to imply they were challenging)
@ oh I can agree with that. Can’t say the tunnels added much to the palace
Hey this was a great video! Who made your thumbnail by the way?
Thank you! It was art_imperio on Fiverr!
here is the thing with okumura's boss fight there is a confidant which can help you Hifumi the star confidant which if you max her out you can switch out party members i always make sure to max her out before this boss fight, plus Hifumi is a very cute girl
hifumi is the best honestly, shes one of my favorites after my first playthrough. at the time of this fight I didn't consider that confidant ability, but that would have helped a lot!
@@Obsoleek hifumi's ability is just very useful for boss fights since if your sp is getting low you can simply switch party members who tend to have full sp the other characttr with a insanely useful ability Ryuji if you need to grind levels overkill save soo much time
Okumura boss fight was the only one I enjoyed and found challenging. 10/10.
I actually enjoyed the challenge too, but at the same time I didn't love the difficulty spike if that makes sense. Pretty easy bosses were the norm and then suddenly it went kinda crazy there.
I see Okumura's boss battle less challenging and more tedious
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Yeah people seemed to not like that one, I thought the content was interesting but it seems people disagreed because people knew it already I suppose? Happens.
Always have Megido Spells for Annoying bosses
@@shelbybayer200 I think Okumara is the only one who deserves that treatment, do you have any others you hate?