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Solid, Poseable Combiner For Less Than $200??? | #transformers Newage Hephaestus/Devastator Review
I hate the modern trend of "just make like 50% of the combiner a static partsforming piece" so much
Yeah. I don't mind some extra parts and stuff, that's always been there since G1. But this is just egregious. At the very least, if you're gonna include a bunch of extra parts, do something with them! Magic Square and Legacy Menasor turned them into a trailer! If Newage is gonna pull this stunt, I'd rather they just make a standalone Devastator figure that doesn't transform or split apart to display next to the individual constructicons.
@@boulder5540 Totally agree. Like at least have em turn into weapons, or hell, make up some kind of extra vehicle.
I appreciate so much that MMC is pretty much giving this partsforming design philosophy the middle finger with their all-built-in stuff
Hopefully this doesn’t become the normal combiner thing
Your not wrong mate
@@boulder5540iron factory Bruticus kibble turns into a trailer. A shoddy looking trailer, but a trailer nonetheless
This dude isn't a cmbiner he's just 6 dudes that attach to a larger 7th dude.
"cmbiner"💀☠️🙏
So basically Menasor.
A dude with an accessory pack.
smaller dudes connecting with a bigger dude..
hmmmmm
All that’s missing is a trench coat.
I get the point behind the frame of the combiner given the size, but it really annoys me to see companies just not even bother trying to make a combiner team combine. With Menasor, it makes sense since the shell at least serves a purpose, but something like this is just. Stupid.
I can see that view, but like he said in vid, given the size of the figures, trying to get them to truly connect and combine and still have nice sleek versions of the figures just may not be possible
3:26 “DIE, THY END IS NOW, CRUSH, PREPARE THYSELF, WEAK” -Minos Prime
Funny how Newage needed that giant core to make the combined mode while the Magic Square version has minimal partsforming.
Isn't the Magic Square one often criticized for being much less fun and having far worse transformations?
The only legends devastator with minimal partsforming is the dx9 one, partsforming pants isn't minimal partforming.
@@RedFlame796 Absolutely, as I have that version.
The individual bots were compromised so much to get that result, but if you’re willing to give up that entire aspect of the figure, and the solidity of the combined mode, just to get *a little* less partsforming, go ahead. Or get the DX9 hulkie, he only partsforms the fists and he’s pretty alright.
magic square is just built different
You know what this reminds me of. An old 3d animation of yellow constucticons forming into Devastator
I REMEMBER THAT, it had some super loud ass song
Nostalgic
Long haul's been doing so much heavy lifting in cartoon that new-age decided to give him an easy time and let him just sit there, which he's more than earned it.
Now get the Magic square, poses better and doesn't have an egregious combiner torso to partsform all the bots into
MS Devastator rocks. I still have to watch videos to transform those guys.
@@ascensionindustries9631 I managed to figure them out, pretty specific order of operations though, that's what I love to have on my transformers
Obviously, the biggest problem about applying this pseudo-combination concept on Combiners like Devastator is, unlike Menasor who could get away with it by having Motormaster and Menasor's skeleton body separated into truck and trailer, Devastator didn't have that luxury because there's no way to hide Devastator's skeleton body. Sure, they can make it transform into something else that is more useful than a partsforming junk, but even if they did, its main purpose was just for the skeleton body.
The thing is, we do have a Devastator with a skeleton that does something
It’s called Micromaster Devastator. But slavish G1 accuracy prevents fun pulls like that
@@Cdr2002 Yeah, at least if it did have a skeleton combiner body, it should be kinda usable for something else.
It's already 2024. Partsformation is only excusable for figures like Gunpla. Half-baked partsformation on Transformers figures should've been minimized as much as possible 🤷♂️
The new despicable me movie is looking fresh
😂
Imagine if an upgrade kit company makes 3d-printed minion heads to swap with this💀.
I got a Despicable me movie add in this video…
"Longhaul, Boncrusher, Scavenger, Mixmaster, Scrapper - ACHOO - scuss me, and then Hook" why did that make me laugh like an idiot
Yea man this review was *("BURPS")* pretty good! *("Sneezes")* Pretty cool figure (◍•ᴗ•◍) Edit: but the comment above me was creative as hell
Why did I read that in g1 Megatron’s voice?
@@spacegoji1954 I dont know but that's genius
@@artiequick3583 thx lol
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Damn the new lakers lineup is looking good
As soon as i saw the price I said hell nah
Yeah, this crap isn't even worth $100.
@@otaking3582 i would rather pay for the combiner wars version over this one
I like combiners but not if they use a shell to combine, it's not a combiner it's a shellbiner
"Wasn't exactly thrilled with the giant torso that does nothing"
Exactly why I hate Legacy Menasor. Sure, _technically_ it does something, IE: 'turns into a trailer', but other than that it doesn't really do anything. The Stunticons don't 'combine' with it, they just hang off it like accessories. Don't get me wrong, it looks awesome with them all there, and horrible without them, but what happened to combiners actually _combining?_ And yes, I know, that's how he looked in the G1 cartoon so "cartoon accuracy!" but I miss the days when they actually _combined_ into something.
Anyway, mini-rant over. Nice vid!
The legacy menasor one is at least understandable because it was made for show accuracy but this one is just absolutely egregious because of how the torso literally does nothing and the bots literally just snap on it with minimal engineering
Menasor is nowhere near as bad as this.
@@nntbot1187 Legacy Motormaster's trailer can also form the base mode for added play value.
@@royasturias1784 yeah it is infinitely better than the literal piece of corpse the devastator has
@@nntbot1187 I'll agree that Menasor isn't as bad as this, as the trailer/skeleton at least does _something,_ but I still don't like the fact that a combiner doesn't actually combine. And like I said, yeah it's show accurate (to a point. In the show Motormaster just elongated and turned into Menasor by himself, pretty much, and the other Stunticons just adhered themselves to his limbs), I just miss the days where combiners actually _combined._
It's weird that Scrapper was the leader of the Contructicons and he's the feet while Hook forms the head. I think it should be the other way around.
Blame the Sunbow writers for having billed the FEL / right leg component as leader, when it has become tradition to have those that form the torso (or the upper half) of the gestalt be leaders of their combiner teams.
@@royasturias1784 G1 was filled with errors of characters. It was a common misconception. The constructions had 2 origin stories. Blitzwing was given the role of shockwave in Season 3 etc.
YOU DONT KNOW HOW LONG IVE BEEN WAITING FOR NEWAGE VIDEOS LIKE THIS THANK YOU
So many people talk about how they hate Partsforming, but then they never say they like Puzzler better than any Transformers Combiner! I would love to see a Modern Puzzler, even if from a Third Party!
That thing is WAY too expensive for what it does. My LG Devastator with retooled arms and added weapons was $200 when I got it and stands 18 inches tall and doesn't need an entire body to combine. We're going to be getting an SS86 Devastator and I can't imagine that one not being better and cheaper than this.
and i had forgot we are supposed to get an SS86 Devy...there are like 457 Devastators out there. I mean I love me some Devy too but can we get some Protectobots, Technobots and Terrorcons with this new fancy engineering at deluxe sizes or something cool at Legends size...ugh
@@SkunkLifeMedia TFW2005 members already found and posted listings for 2025 of Air Raid, Slingshot, Sky Dive and Fireflight for next year along with Swindle so Bruticus and Superion are apparently up next in the Legacy line.
@@straker454 It has not been indicated yet witch Swindle version it will be. There is a possibility it won't be the G1 version.
@@dmonsef Yeah, someone mentioned elsewhere that it could be Animated Swindle. Still, they did Menasore and they're doing Superion and SS86 Devastator, are we betting on Hasbro NOT also remaking Bruticus, and Defensor as well?
The devastation is wild in this vid
If you like new age you have to get one of there seeker moulds it is possibly the best seeker mould ever, challenging even master piece scale stuff
I once saw the tonka redecos of the original constructicons once. The things were WAY smaller than i thought they were. And i didn't really expect the newage ones to be the same size.
How strong your steel, That Toy Guy? How quick the conquest!
for 189 dollars I would expect more engineering for the central body of Devestator this feels like a lot of money for having a statue as body. Great review thanks
I bought this going in blind a year ago because I had a Devastator Collection, but I traded it for the MasterMade because of the Extra Parts. This was also the reason I loved the Cang Toys Predaking, even though there was some comments about the Primal Pants.
i have the weijiang "robot force" version of the constructicons. long haul forms the torso with no extra parts needed,the arms fold right underneath bonecrusher and scavenger. i love it.
I already had this guy and I love him. I just clicked it because I like your reviews.
I definitely agree with you about Longhaul. He's my favorite from this kit too. I really like that in his alt mode, the tailgate of the dumptruck is actually empty and not stuffed with robot mode kibble. It probably sounds stupid, but if I had this as a child, I'd have Longhaul just carrying everyone's weapons in his tailgate like a glorified waterboy lol
If you're still missing the drill pegs maybe you can fashion your own out of the remains of the ratchet sprues.
You really need to handle the magic square set, it fixes like every issue you’ve got with this one.
If I wanted a partsforming combiner I'd complete my collection of fossilizers (I do want to do this).
Long haul doesn't actually lock the top waist joint, he's meant to bend his knees to support the weight of crunching poses so devastator doesn't flop all over. It works okay in practice
so glad I bought the iron warrior Prime Optimus now. I’m a huge TFP fan and after seeing your video I went and got it using your code.
This about what I imagine the SS86 Devastator will be
and I am a-ok with that, cus skeletons make combiners fun to pose
I'm totally fine with the partsforming because it works so much better. This dude is stable as hell and fun to pose! Can't say the same for the Magic Square or most other combiners that don't use extra help.
would have liked to see the Devastator next to G1 devastator for size comparison
It seems folks would have been more receptive if that shell broke down into some version of the attack mode bits. I get that shell is a turn off for some. I just see it as simplifying all that G1 kibble. Cool… but not something on which I’d drop $200. Looks good IMO.
You deserve 1 milion subscribers dude
I saw some of these at a Ross, didn’t get them but it was t complete and didn’t wanna hunt them down separately, probably cost more, this looks good.
Fun fact, the designer who designed the combined mode was inspired by Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Swindle really moved on up in the world after being a leg for 38 years.
i had a knock off brand g1 yellow colored devestator toy i got from big lots lol and a repaint of long haul from tf rotf wish i still had those toys
I think the biggest factor in these fake parts, here and Toyworld Constructor, is trying to keep Longhaul the same height while doing much more. I personally wouldn’t mind if he’s a giant in the team for the sake of Deva-proportions
New age dotm soundwave is absolutely amazing, and their new dotm megatron seems promising. Idk about the smaller scale g1 figures, but they knock it out of the park for bayverse figures.
The first release of these guys were rough. Not only was it way more expensive( because you had to pay for 4 shipments), but they had a lot of quality control and design issues.
I'm glad they fixed everything on the box sets, but it sucks for all the people who bought the toon version (including me). Also, they packaged the alt faces for the toon version with G2. Why?!
not a fan of the giant torso but the constructicons look great, some years ago I bought an KO devastor where the only partsforming were the lower arms and hands, Longhaul ended up as the lower body and thighs, hook had the head and the other ones were like the G1
I prefer the yellow Constructicons. I think because most construction vehicles are yellow. Or at least were.
I loved Animated’s designs the most. Before they joined Megatron.
I once saw the original tonka devastator at the Aberdeen comicon bnib a few years back
Nice review yellow looks nice on them can’t wait for studio series 86 destructicons (g1) when ever they come out
Majority of them is next year. Long Haul and Hook are unknown to when they will be released in 2026.
I do not like how the torso aint the individual dudes, it aint a real combiner
Blows my mind that some members of the TF fandom will complain about parts forming then give stuff like this a free pass.
Bro really sneezed Hook out.
This is cool, but Oversized Jin Bao Gravitybuilder with the 2.0 upgrade kit is the better buy. Should be about the same price as this, and it's larger. How much larger? About as larger as WFC Omega.
I dont mind extra parts to facilitate combining or for structure, but I flat out hate frame types, it takes the whole point of being a "combiner" and throws it out the window
This almost feels like a Missing Link Devastator because of how much they resemble the original toys. In defense of the whole body assembly, the original had quite a bit of parts forming involved only in more sections with way less stability/engineering. Super excited to see what Hasbro does with 86 Devastator though I'll be really disappointed if it uses any of the engineering from the Combiner Wars one. I see Long Haul, and Hook hopefully as Leaders forming most of the upper/lower body with the remaining Constructicons doing the lower legs/ exterior limbs. If he's stable and articulate, and looks good I have no problems going the Menasaur route.
Nah they should all be the same height
I think it's more likely Hasbro will do a scale down version in SS86 of the Combiner Wars version. I be shocked and pleasantly surprised if Hasbro came closer to Newages Devastator look.
I love how nice the component parts look, but I hate how it has to have the core thing to combine.
Generation Two Devastators G2
The individual cons are some of Newage's best without a doubt, especially the arm bots & long haul. I mess with Bonecrusher & Scrapper pretty often since theyre my favorite characters from the team. Theyre so fun as individual packages and they might be my favorite constructicons... but the combined mode is so lame. I really dont like that the skeleton is 90% of the combined mode, and that it does absolutely nothing when not combined. Theres no fun to combining them, the whimsy is absent. I'd take less articulation for a more fun toy experience any day, this just barely misses the mark for me in arguably the most important place for a combiner.
Devy is a phenomenal display piece, but it fails at being a good toy, even for just desk fidgeting. I'm not really a fan of Magic Square, but I think if NA could've managed something closer to their Devy the set would be perfect.
Wait can you make Devastator with just Scrapper and Mixmaster? that's hilarious
okay yeah, but can I recommend a different unofficial Devastator? I really recommend Jinb- (gunshot)
Please consider getting Magic squares version of this guy and compare them
I dont mind some partsforming aspects of combiners, take Toyworld constructor, his thighs, head and forearms are separate pieces, this is an excellent example of excluding the compromising parts of the individual figures but still leaving you with the idea that you combined something and everything is working out. Meanwhile this devastator is almost insulting, they have zero play with each other, everything is placed in this huge armature that might as well be another guy, hes doing basically every articulation of the combined mode. And it's not like "uh but menasor" cause menasor's body transforms into Motormaster's trailer, that at least that could make sense lore wise and its a great opportunity to give some usability to the trailer, the body of devastator is nothing but jsut that, a body, it cant convert into anything cool and still feels like cheating a lot
While there’s the giant shell of a torso it’s a sacrifice to keep the 6 figures better, also it’s legends tying to do an all in 1 devestator at legends scale would get messy, also a lot of other legends combiners have combiner bits due to size so why does everyone harp on this 1 set.
I got this set wanting something devestator that wouldn’t be a hassle to put on a shelf and this set is great the robot modes are super clean and fun to fiddle with then the G2 colours in vehicle mode such a good look
I would say everyone picks this set specifically because with other legends combiners the combiner kibble is usable in the other modes where as this is just a hunk of unusable plastic until you combine them
I love your channel so much
To anyone who has trouble figuring out what they should do with "the shell"..
In one of the G1 Transformers Comics, Devastator was gonna be built as it's own robot, due to the constructicons not being able to combine anymore. i tend to kind of display him in the way that the "scaffolding" aka unfinished robot looked.
EDIT: it was in "The Transformers UK: Desert Island Risks!"
guaranteed that Hasbro's gonna learn all the wrong lessons from Menasor's reception and try to pull this bullshit with Devvy when they get around to him
I have a strong feeling they will do Devastators combining like they did with the Combiner Wars version of him, but just a smaller scale. If they were to pull off having him more blockish like the original cartoon/movie, then they got some balls!
Ribot, is that what a robot frog says
Please more videos on combiners specaly on constructicons, i need do be hyped for the 86 ones
I don’t have any combiners 😭😭😭
lucky cat has a really cool cybertronian devastator though the pieces are fiddly
I prefer Magic square’s Devastator. Though for the individual constructicons, for some of them, Newage looks better.
4:45 bless you
i get that their making modern toys based on g1 toys but anyone else not like this style of combiner i get it was also so the modes would look good seperately but i prefer when the combiner doesent have any parts that they go in to maybe exept the hands and feet.
I have the nbk devastator and I cannot tell you how many band aids I've gone through with him 😭
I've wanted to get the Newage Jazz but the price always tells me no
Can't wait for the 86 Constructicons.
Looking forward to it too, but at the same time I don't think Hasbro will release them how we want, at least for me. I have the OG ones and obviously how they combined had nothing to do how they did in the cartoon/movie. So my want is too have them come as close to how they combined and looked in the cartoon/movie. Unfortunately, Hasbro has mostly come up short in close look with their SS86 line.
TF G2?
Did my comment about this not even being worth $100 get deleted? People responded to it, so I doubt it was YT's censorship
I have gravity builder and also keeps falling
Down so I agree
Scraper the rapper💀
That's how they're doing combiners now. Not just 3rd party, but official as well. It all started with the Xtransbots Menasor & these companies have been getting lazier since then.
This would be an amazing combiner but I hate it so much only because of the fact that it barely combined it just plugs into a body frame and o hate that
I’ve been trying to track this combiner down for so long!!!
I’ve wanted this guy for a while, but the prices
You know its a solid combiner when the legs fall over in their robot modes
How does he scale with legacy figures.
With that big hunk of partsforming, might as well just sell a non-transforming devastator
Honestly I wanna be bothered by how the combination works but speaking honestly, this works exactly like how the original g1 devaatator transformed. It works better though because it’s all 1 solid piece; not a pile that you have to scavenge through and put together like a rickety puzzle.
Love the videos!
Everyone hating the lazy half of this set isn’t necessarily wrong but at the same time he looks amazing and it’s not like every single mode ( robot, alt, combiner ) is half assed like someone ( cough cough combiner wars )
He says. “PREPARE FOR EXTERMINATION”! And then starts dismantling the autobot’s defenses
Didnt the torso turn into some kind of machine with drills? Maybe im thinking of another company?
Magic Square did that. While not a shell like Newage did so, Magic Square has a bottom torso/waist/thighs piece to help Devastator form.
who in the world would go for friction over ratchets?
Thoughts on magic sqaure devastator
As jank as it is, i prefer my $40 KO DX9 Hulkie because it can do the transformation all-in-one without the need for a separate figure to plug the robots into.
It's kinda like a mini masterpiece 😂❤
While I prefer animation color Constructicons/Devastator, the yellow at least makes more sense.
I know it's an easy joke/point to make but I don't think I've ever seen a bunch of construction vehicles in green and purple before lol.
Are these the Tonka bots Constructicons colors ???
They have blue eyes are they Autobots??
You could make them that if you wanted to. This version is to depict G2 Devastator.
@@dmonsef ohk thanks for the info 👍
Funny enough I had names for them and there combined form.. but discovered those names exist in TF lol
Got my Dinobot ll on its way!😅
Prefiero los constructicons de DX9 y a comparación de newage este se transforma en un buen combiner funcional sin usar una enorme estatua que metes a los componentes para la combinación
I'd say "I can see why this is less than $200", but this crap isn't even worth $100. The engineering shouldn't be so bad that it's basically a guy wearing armor.
You could buy 10 or 12 DX9 Hulkie sets with that price point.