Jaguar 420G - Fantastic Fat Cat
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This Jaguar is a terrific car. One of the best Jags ever made. What do you reckon?
I think it is a very underated model. The engine is the same as that fitted to the 4.2 E-Type , whereas the S1 and S2 4.2L XJ6's had to make do with a twin SU carb set up, rather than the triple SU's of the 420G.
I have 4 children, (all adults now) and I was able to put 4 seat belts in the back seat and cart them around quite safely 😀
@@Bellakelpie Agree. They truly are great cars.
The Mk10/420G has always been one of my favourite Jaguars. Only Jaguar could have made such a large car look so elegant. It has always baffled my why this magnificent British limousine has been ignored for so long.
I agree Mark. It is such a cool car, however, has been overlooked for a long time a d it is a shame that many were probably parted out when they were such an elaborate vehicle. At least this one survives.
I bought a 1967 420G , with a dead engine, for an absolute song back in 1985.
I had the cylinder head done up, dropped in a rebuilt short motor taken from a crashed XJ6 and then tidied up the interior, fitted a new set of pads all round and proceeded to have 8 glorious years of trouble free motoring. I sold it to a guy who ran a wedding car fleet and he used it as hos " flagship.". Great memories, thanks for posting. 😊
Sounds like a great car for a great price 👍. Glad you enjoyed it.
Nice to see a great example of an old machine with the luxury design of London gentlemen's club interior.
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I do like Jaguars more than Rolls Royce; but I to me it is one of the best looking Jaguars...
Thanks for video :)
Had the privilege of owning two of these magnificent jaguars, probably. The best jags ever made. Couldn't run one today at only 15 to the gallon.
Agree John. They are probably the best Jags (I wouldn’t mind an E Type too). Fuel consumption isn’t so much an issue here compared to the UK.
Have owned a 1969 E, and now own a 1965 Mark 10. Low, wide, powerful, sporty, version of RR Saloon.
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Respect to Jag and her owner!
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Great comment Mark. Great point. "The Americans had yearly model changes". Very hard to compete with. This model had the most simplified engine under-hood / engine bay I believe. The Poms were huge on their SU carbs, just about every car had them - this one 3 !! lol. Also, always big on their interior timber veneers and accessory trays. I think a lot of time was spent on the side of the road, where lots of tea - or in this case possibly Brandy were consumed...there were great spaces for the Thermos. Independent rear suspension and 4 disc brakes were a great feature for them. Great review. Thanks Mark - Fletch 🙂.
Thanks Fletch. I really do like this car as it goes well, handles well and is very comfortable too. Also being pre British Leyland, I am sure it is more reliable too. But as I say, hard to compete in America with what was on offer from Cadillac,Lincoln and Imperial.
Well Fletch this model has the MOST POWERFULL , not most simplified Jaguar engine , PLUS , a lot of early owners that ordered their car , not just buying off showroom floor stock ordered them with the high output bronze head coupled to a steel block , this gave less issues that the common standard Aluminium head on steel bloc. Plus this was Jag company's first car with the new GM Harrison radiator division's invention, the Crossflow radiator that tricks boiling point these complete with a GM clutchfan that would bolt straight onto my 1974 Cadillac , or straight onto my 1983 WB Holden Statesman Caprice . So these big jags run cool even on a 40 degree heat day. Plus alot of their first owners would be older and wealthy the kind that could buy a Rolls , or this when new very expensive Jaguar and they did not thrash their car and had it serviced properly . Here is why they last ,:- , bronze heads, big GM Harrison crossflow radiators, older wealthier first owners whom looked after the car and did not thrash their car. One of the biggest killers of all automotive alloy components that come into contact with tap water is fluoride in the water from about 1965 onwards in all the capital cities & regional cities in Australia, owners need to put in plenty of green inhibitor in their radiators , and before its 2 years old drain it out as it dies and stops working. They came with Aussie Marles Adwest engineerlng steering systems , whom make aircraft nosewheel steering, i.e. very quick & very accurate , coupled with the factory handling package that could be ordered when new the car could have beefier sway bar, Koni Gas shocks , which stiffens the car up and consider this , THIS WAS THE MODEL THAT GAVE FACTORY COIL OVER SUSPENSION ON EVERY CAR AND THE BEST INDEPENDENT REAR SUSPENSION OF ANY CAR, this was the WORLD"S FIRST LUXURY SPORTS CAR. Plus when you look at the 4 wheel disc brakes on this car they are big and beefy , and make some modern cars brakes look like joke. The rears are huge inboard ones up near the diff so they stay cool and dry in the wet so when you need them they do not need to dry off and unlike most cars , a lot of the braking comes from the rear. Just think Jaguar invented the disc brake & were using them at Le mans race in 1955 so they could stop like a modern car , Mercedes were using all wheel drum brakes of their own quirky design from the 1920's , in 1955 , and guess what , when Mercedes really needed them not only did the brakes fail , but the whole body failed and broke up heading to the grand stand where its magnesium alloy detonated and exploded when airborne and instantly killed near 90 people and burned badly nearly 300 more, they never raced again until 1986 and under the disguise name of Sauber. French government made Mercedes pay for all the funerals, expenses, helicopters and hospital costs for all the burns victims. Jaguar had offered them the disc brake concept for use under a small license fee , this was rejected by the Mercedes Management as not invented by Mercedes hence will not be used , mega eggs on their face soon changed that and instead of spending money on racing they started to spend money on safety instead . .
@@gregharvie3896 great comment - I appreciate your knowledge on these Jags. A good read from you. Cheers.
This one didn't need no changes. Because it was great as it was. Even the XJ series didn't differ too much from this until the late 1980s. All the while the US brands were releasing these boxy rectangular things few people care about these days. And even though the Jag's design was old, it never _got_ old.
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THIS WAS THE XJ6's Dad, but it seems more premium and looks larger. I wonder if it had triple SU's standard like the E-type
@@arkhsm Agree. I think this does have the triple carbs. 👍
Quite simply. inside and out my favourite car of all time !
Breathtaking !
They are a terrific car aren’t they? And great value for what you receive.
I would love to afford one of those beasts.😢
Yes. Very nice cars.
I do have a vauxhall viscount from 1972 perhaps he will swap.
@@stuartspreadbury5740 you never know!
@@stuartspreadbury5740 Man, they were the very top off the range English GM at that time....would be real rare now....a poor mans 420G !!
What a shame he doesn't look after it. Left out in the weather. A car like this needs to be in a garage otherwise don't buy one.
Yes, always better to have them under cover. 👍
You need to microphone assist who you speak to!
Thanks for the tip
Come on guys. It didn't put Rolls-Royce on notice. RR was providing picnic tables years before Jag and the quality of RR was also far superior. Jag followed RR and Bentley. Jag could never give RR a run for their money. The 4.2 engine was used in earlier Mark 2 Jags. It was NOT a Majestic engine alone. However, Jag had a way superior suspension system than the Cloud which was pre RR Shadow. The Jag wasn't a car that was 2 thirds the price of a Rolls-Royce. It was one third the price for obvious reasons. If you are to be believed, why did it take RR 15 years to sell as many? Obvious. The quality and price. The Jag didn't have a patch on the Rolls and never will. You say at 8:07 that a year after the Jag was released, the Shadow was released. WRONG. "Unveiled at the London Motor Show in October of 1966, the Jaguar 420G was a continuation of the Mark X, which was sold between 1961 and 1966". The Shadow production ran from 1965-80 so one year before the Jag. You Aussies just get everything wrong to suit yourselves. I'm surprised you haven't claimed Sir William Lyons as an Australian just because he sold Jags in Oz.
The two cars are really chalk and cheese. Agreed, however, the point was that the Jaguar offered high levels of appointments, excellent performance out of the six cylinder and superior dynamics. The Rolls Royce was clearly a higher quality item and offered a softer ride etc. in terms of generic luxury though, the Jaguar gave an excellent account of itself for a fraction of the price. They have been compared - even in English magazines and let’s not forget Sir William Lyons little known Australian cousin Joe “Koala” Lyons, who developed the eucalyptus bushing.
Also. You need to re-watch and listen to what Greg said. The Majestic he referred to related to the V8 engine that was part of a cancelled engineering program for Jaguar. Ie putting that V8 in this body. They built prototypes but it did not go to production. He also (correctly) said that the Rolls Royce came out 5 years after the car. This is correct as it was released in 1961 and the Shadow was released in 1966. So, not WRONG as you stated. Production may (I don’t really know) have started in 1965 but the Rolls was released to the public in 1966. Anyway old chap, thanks for the comments. Much appreciated 👍
Geez, lighten up! Like was pointed out in this video, the 420G is just a name change on the Mark 10 that came out in 1961! So yes, much later for the RR. Those darned Aussie's too! Full of hyperbole and misinformation. Full blood are you?
@englishlawyer. I own the cream Jaguar seen in this clip. My mother as stated in the video owned a last of the line 1971 Jaguar 420G , opalescent gunmetal grey paint with "ox-blood" maroon leather interior, this was a thicker, softer more expensive factory option, additionally it was fitted with factory air-conditioning. I have the receipt for its purchase dated 3rd March 1971, full price was $17,650. Also from 1971 I have the receipt for Mum's uncle, & my great uncle's 1971 RR Silver Shadow bought on 7th July 1971 its full purchase price was $22,100. Both cars came from the Sydney, and for that matter Australian importers of each brand, Jack Bryson's Jaguar Aust in William St, Sydney city, and the Rolls from Yorkstar motors the two rival company's main Australian showrooms were next door to one another in William Street city.
To me $17,650 looks mighty like 2/3rds of $22,100 , do not tell me 1/3, I have the receipts!!
Re-quality and longevity of each product. The 4.2 liter Jaguar delivered more power and torque than the Rolls Royce 6.75 litre V8, the Jaguar gave way better miles to the gallon, for Australian registration compliancy those figures were made available for the vehicle to obtain compliancy for registration in Australia. I'm now 68 yrs old, when I was decades younger, I went with my uncle, for whom I worked a couple of days a week while I attended university. His Rolls was struck by a drunk at an intersection, I went with him to see how the repairs were coming along. The driver's door was being repaired, while the rear right door required a new replacement. I was in disbelief at how the internals of the RR had been finished off, the door latching system, locking system and power window systems were pathetic and like a child's attempt compared to the Jaguar, as by this age/stage I had bought my first LHD 4.2Ltr 1965 MK10, and had pulled its doors apart and bathed them in rust preventing marine bituminous orminoid, thick treacle like tar paint. I just looked and thought oh my god, just what the hell are you paying for when you buy a Rolls Royce.
In my last year of studying medicine at Sydney Uni' my uncle and his wife went o'seas for a year, as he had sold his business and was going to retire, I looked after their city penthouse apartment, and could use his Silver Shadow. I felt it a real disappointment, judging it and my Jaguar in the cold light of day as a doctor, the Jaguar handled better, had more responsive better brakes, used less fuel and was a more powerful but heavier car, (yep the big Jag was/is heavier than the RR), the Jaguar had better steering , accurate , made by Marles Ad-West engineering here in Australia, (they make aircraft nose wheel steering for most of the worlds plane manufacturers, then and now), the RR's steering was pure vague-a-rama no real road feel to know what was happening , the RR floated like a boat on choppy seas , whereas the Jaguar was fitted with optional Koni gas shocks and coils made specifically for the MK10, what a difference.
Maybe in the UK you have seen old tired wrecking yard examples of a MK10 or 420G, however I'd grown up with a factory fresh new 420G and a new RR Silver Shadow, plus I had my own pristine 1965 4.2ltr Mk10, owned prior to me from new by the chief of the Australian World Health team in Geneva, Switzerland sadly he had a stroke at age 52 and was sent home to Australia in 1974 along with his family, possessions & car. Studying medicine I'd heard on the grape vine he wanted to sell it as he would never be able to drive again, and it had a mere 52.000kilometres on it. The Jaguar was a better built, more scientific, more modern car in 1961, than the Rolls was when released in 1966. In real world use the Jaguar gave better service without any of the servicing nightmares handed out by the Citroen licensed braking and rear suspension systems found in the RR Shadow, and let's face it the MK10/420G lived on in the Daimler DS420 Limousine until late 1992, as did the series 3 xj12, which along with its earlier sies 1 & 2 siblings, the series 3xj is really just a cheaper more basic rendition of the MK10. As in 1971 when mum bought her new 420G it was $17.650, however the basic 4.2 litre xj6 was $9,999 and by comparison a Mercedes Benz w111 280SEC 3.5 V8 cabriolet was mere $11,750. Now fools pay beyond $300k for these when mum looked at one at Yorkstar motors, even with the slimline Scheele sports seats front & rear there was almost no rear legroom for my sister or myself, plus the car was way less elaborate or luxurious than the new mk10/420G. This Merc' was lighter, shorter, more narrow, plus was less powerful but gave a mere 10mpg from its fuel guzzling v8, where the big heavier more powerful, more opulent Jaguar doubles this with an easy 20mpg.
so , englishlawyer, Do you know what Packard Cars said, and was their slogan for decades??
Ask the man that owns one.
By the way the 4.2litre engine was never, ever used in MK2 Jaguars as you state, the biggest ever was 3.8 litres.
@@gregharvie3896 '65 to early '70 the RR V8 was 6.2L Greg. Also, I think Ad-West did steering systems for Aston Martin too !!
Love the 420G and Mk10 Jags , lovely original car , thanks for showing
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Must be a nice car. I always thought they looked like a barge in the late ‘70s, but to be only 3.8 or even 4.2 L and sell in America, where they had 6 and 7 litre V8s, says something.
They do perform very well. Certainly no slouch from a performance perspective. 👍
Hi mark i hope you are well. What a stunner they really rare. as a 25 year old its rare for me to love German English and any classic :)
stock with no mods how i enjoy my cars :)
I have a lovely W211 named old silver with 440.000 kms.
I also love the MK2 jag and MK 1 witch is rare as hens teeth.
Thanks Tim, you too? Some nice classics in there. Agree it is good to mix it up rather than just one make or country of origin, although we do have our favourites of course. Appreciate the comments as always 👍
@@markbehr88 Amen One minute i love morris minor and oxford. next buick ect :)
@@timfordfalconxf7714 there’s nothing wrong with that. In the Jaguar video I said this may be the first English car, however, I forgot I covered the Morris 1300 in the two earlier videos.
@@markbehr88 Now I don't have to mention that, haha !!
Simply Gorgeous Real Quality It's a mobile drawing room x
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Planning for a long time to acquire one in the US, which is now practically impossible, how does it compare in size to a modern (2000) SJ8? It does look big, but is it actually big, compared to an SJ8 sedan?
Hi. Very different packaging. I would say wider with less headroom.
Hi there from Greg , the owner, the 2000 xj308 is massively smaller in every way. MK10/420G's are 205 inches long, and in the middle of the car 78 inches wide they are just a couple of inches longer than a Rolls Royce Silver Shadow, but a lot wider half a foot. In the day when these were relatively new and plentiful on the roads, many owners judged width at the front of this car, then found they scraped the left or right sides in the middle where it is substantially wider. This is one of the only cars to use the aeronautic laminar flow design for a car's body, where from any angle it is wider and "puffier" in the middle like an egg. This helped with stability at high speed and keeping the car planted firmly on the ground, as this car was designed by Sir William Lyons mate Malcolm Sayer who was a aerodynamicist and aircraft engineer, this and the E-Type released to the public on the same day were his crowning glory.
In effect the Jaguar xj350 of 2003 -2010 Jaguar XJL V8 long wheelbase version Is IDENTICAL in size, to be exacting this new car is .3 of an inch longer, (the standard length xj350 is half a foot shorter than its long wheelbase brother, so9 naturally half a foot shorter than the mk10/420G) and also and 1.5 inches narrower than the 1961 to 1971 mk10/420G. The engine bay is spacious making servicing a dream with the huge bonnet that opens forward, plus boot storage space is massive beyond belief something like 32 cubic feet of room, akin to a station wagon. This older car also has more head room than a standard length xj308 sedan, if you went to the XJ308 Insignia, or Majestic's, the special order long wheel base cars with taller glass giving more head room, you then get the same headroom found in a mk10/420G sedan.
A comparison , some years ago I thought of buying what I felt was Mercedes Benz crowning glory, a 1979 Merc W116 S-class 450SEL 6.9 litre V8. An acquaintance had one for sale as he could not afford its running costs. When I drove/tested the Merc 6.9 on the same roads near my country retreat where there were still speed de-restriction zones I was shocked at the amount of lift at the front , then scarily when speed increased the lift at the back, not assisted by Merc's ancient rear swing axles dating all the way back to the 1930's . PLUS the Jaguar is near a HALF TON heavier than the big Merc, which is also shorter than the Jaguar, put one of these giant Jags on a hoist and they have a totally flat floor like a modern car again to help air flow.
These cars are not so big on the road these days, as people have got bigger so have the cars, I'd love one... I recently bought an immaculate Jaguar XJS convertible and one of these would make a wonderful stablemate.
When I was just 8yrs old (1974) my dad bought a 1969 "F" Reg Jaguar 420G in British Racing Green. It made a HUGE impact on me and to this day almost 50years later, I about to buy my tenth Jaguar. A 2001 XJ V8 3.2L. It needs a bit of work, isn't road legal here in the UK but its a present to myself, as indeed all Jaguar's should be.
A fine example of this car in this video!
Thanks very much Jon. These 420G Jaguars are truly great cars and still somewhat overlooked compared to other models. Enjoy your new one. 👍
Jag went from the Mk7 / 7M / 8 / 9 to the Mk10
No one saw that coming.
Agree. Those models were amazing luxury cars but somewhat dated styling wise. The Mark Ten / 420G, while oversized to some, especially in the UK, was a very modern execution, full of tech for the times. Please consider subscribing for more old car videos. Appreciate your comments.
For me it was one of the first big British land cruiser cars back then to look great and balanced on the road Something about Jaguar's that other manufacturers take from over the years
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and i have just put a deposit on one in the same colour, yeeeeehaaaaaaa
Congratulations Kenneth! 👍
thanks meduck. i suppose i'll have to tell the missus at some point.......@@markbehr88
Lovely video and thanks to Greg for sharing his wonderful knowledge.
Thanks very much. He also talks about his Cadillacs on the channel too 👍
Beautiful car
Agree. Very well equipped for the day and you don’t see them that often these days.
When you progressed from petty crime to serious gangsterdom, this was the must have car.
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@@markbehr88 Hi Mark, it was a bit tongue in cheek, but I do believe The Kray Twins had one. 🙂It was a lot of motor car, like most Jags, especially The E Type, which I believe had the same engine, with the triple SU's. You were no stranger to the local petrol station either.
I think you’re correct re Kray twins. Agree Pierre. A lot of car for the money.
😂😂😂my farther had one brang new when I was a boy proper car class
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After the E-type, this is definitely my favourite Jag.
Agree. These are tremendous cars and underrated in my view.
Yes owned a 1969 E type for more than a decade, but with a few years on my chassis the sportiness, ride, and luxurious interior makes me really appreciate my 1965 4.2 Mark 10. Many prefer the xj6 but not of the same class as the Mark 10, however it fit a market as a sporty sedan in the US and sold very well.
@@rondye9398 I can fully understand the appeal of the big Jags. They are tremendous cars. 👍
I have the same car mark. Same colour with red leather. Best classic ive ever owned. Parts are getting more scarce nowadays and there's not that many left on uk roads. They certainly don't make cars like this anymore.
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Helluva car, many fond memories 👍
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@@markbehr88 luv ya work, keep em coming 👍
@@lancecooper4646 Thanks buddy!
Nice INDIAN TATA 420g
That’s one way of looking at it but when it was built that reference may have only applied to their tea.