I swear they stay hating the Steelers for some reason, they just beat the commanders and ravens, 2 of the best offenses in the league, in different ways….. yeah your bias has shown
Kimberley Martin "WhERe aRe ThE pOIntS?" Bruh, we went into this game averaging 30.8ppg with Wilson at QB.. Also, you don't have to rely on your offense scoring 27+ per game when your defense holds basically everyone to under 20.
Yup, and let's take it even further: even if you include the Ravens game, they've averaged 27.3 ppg with Wilson which would be 6th in the NFL - and that's with zero defensive TDs and only 1 special teams score (Austin return td) during that time. So there's the points.
They’ve had 5 games this year with 20 points or less against mid defenses. The teams they’ve scored against aren’t exactly great either, giants, jets, raiders like cmon dude get real. This offense is not doing the defense any favors if they get bounced in the playoffs it’s 100% because they ain’t scoring enough
@@kylesawkon4074 You realize you're talking about 2 different offenses right? One with Justin Fields as our QB and the other as Russell Wilson as our QB. Also, considering this is Russell Wilson's first game not scoring 25 points as a Steeler. Imma just chalk it up to being a Ravens vs Steelers game.
Agree 100% bro. No such category as "Style Points" in the NFL...This always happens to the Steelers, ever since the 70's really. They win and win...and win, even the Super Bowls (of which they have 6 thank you very much) and people always try and either lesson the value of the win, or even argue away the win into some kind of loss. The 70's Super Bowls argument: College recruiting strategy and Steroid use BEFORE the rules and medical information came out. All the rest of the Super Bowl wins arguments: Luck, bad officiating, or crazy claims that the games were "fixed" Every time the Steelers have a great season people try and take it away by making it seem undeserved. I'll just quote Mike Tomlin, "We're not going to apologize for winning." Steelers have 6 Lombardi Trophies...and you don't. *mic drop*
Even still it’s an irrelevant argument they pose. You can’t win games without out scoring the other team. You might not like how they’re doing it or think it’s not as entertaining or efficient, but the Steelers are outscoring their opponents.
These are the analysts?? Pittsburgh can't win more than one way?! They just won a divisional game with all field goals....last game against Washington it was a game-winning TD from Mike Williams...TJ Watt can END A GAME by himself! Special teams block field goals and score punt return TDs. Why are these people being paid again? The Steelers hate is REAL! I really hope they read these comments. ESPN needs better analysts.....BAD lol
The Pittsburgh offense would be a concern if the other contenders in the AFC were offensive juggernauts. Which none of them are. Chiefs bills chargers Texans none of them are dominant offensively. The only dominant offensive team is the ravens and they always play them really well. Pittsburgh has excellent coaching great defense and probably the best special teams in football. So yes they are absolutely contenders.
@@kylesawkon4074they scored 28 points against the commanders, scored 26 on the giants, 37 on the jets, and 18 points on the ravens. You’re really blind by the media telling you they ain’t good
@ redskins defense is 18th overall, giants and jets are terrible lol and ravens defense ain’t impressive. I think steelers defense is good I don’t think their offense is good
@@kylesawkon4074 giants defense are leading the league in sacks, jets are a good team. Literally everyone is saying “let’s see if the Steelers beat a really good team in commanders or Ravens” what else do you want them to do? Beat the chiefs? Bc no one other than the bills hasn’t beaten the chiefs yet
Steelers have been in a shootout with the commanders and won, they’ve scored a lot of points, they’ve won with defense, they’ve won with running the ball, they’ve won passing, they’ve won with special teams. Every point they made is false and out of delusion or hatred for the team. They HAVE won in different ways, teams HAVE put points on them where the Steelers ended up winning. Close this clown show down.
Cant win in multiple ways?? Fox wtf are you watching? We can win the game on literally on 3 fronts. Offense is our weakest spot and when everything is working properly we score 30+. We have more blocked kicks than anyone else this year. Our special teams is without a doubt top 3. Our defense has the DPOY and is easily top 3. Bunch of haters on here.
When Lamar Jackson was the MVP favorite, some of them on this panel would say Jarrod Goff was the real MVP. Now that Lamar isn't the MVP favorite, Jarrod Goff isn't the reason the Lions are winning; he’s benefiting from Penei Sewell’s plays. It's funny how suddenly Penei Sewell is recognized as the playmaker of the Lions over Jarrod Goff since Lamar is in second place for the MVP right now. That's games that media plays for viral moments.
I feel like the NCAA is paying these networks to put this information/Rumor out there. You all just want him out of College football, that's all. Deion never said anything about NFL football, and Dallas never said anything about Deion, but all of a sudden, every sports media outlet wants Deion in Dallas/NFL Leave this man alone. if he wants to, we will know. Stop forcing a false narrative
Haters! Shoot out? The Steelers have played number 2,4, 16, 17, 18, 19 in the league points per game. Steelers are 5-1 in those games. Steelers avg. 21 opponents 13. If the defense is good shoot outs dont happen.
The Steelers slander is crazy. They’ve beaten more above .500 teams than below .500 teams (Falcons 6-5, Broncos 6-5, Chargers 7-3, Commanders 7-4, and Ravens 7-4) this is professional football style points don’t matter as long as they have one more point than the other team all the other stats bs is irrelevant
" they can't win by a bunch of different ways". This guy is a joke. Hes really talking about the Chiefs who have been winning by luck. They finally played a team who put up 30 and they lost. The Steelers are legit whether you like it or not.
I love how the coaches get praised to keep jumping from team to team, but players(college or pro) have no loyalty. It would make sense for deion to leave that's his thing.
Lmaoo they move rhe goal post every time for the Steelers , just before the ravens game we averaged 30ppg , now one game we don’t get to that “ where are the points” they need to let me on the show cause they scared to say the truth
5:25 Steelers won with the long bomb last min with Russ two weeks ago go with special teams and defense this week and with 3 tds by Russ 3 weeks ago those seem pretty different imo
“First father and son duo to win a Super Bowl” He’d be dumb to pass that chance up. Any team that has a chance to get them both would be dumb to pass that chance up, too. Both to the raiders. Brady has worked and can continue to work with his Deion’s son.
In 2000 the Baltimore Ravens defense outplayed the offense that whole entire season and help them win the Superbowl 2001! Ray Lewis won the MVP award!! So you don't always needs the offense to outscored a team consistently to win the Superbowl. It might not be pretty and probably boring because of the low scoring game. But it can be done!! Defense win games.
How are they doing this? Dieon never said he was going to the NFL, so why include him in a package deal with his son. Their deliberately taking the shine from sheduer.
Can someone explain. To me why this lady is in one of the expert chairs? The other three experts are ex players and Greeny is the host but she consistently disagrees with them, even when discuss the atmosphere of a MEN’s locker room. She doesn’t even seem to be a stats nerd type like Mina Kimes. Why is she even on this show?
That chick is the biggest Steelers hater. The Ravens lose to bad teams she’ll say theyre still SB contenders. The Steelers beat good teams and theyre not SB contenders. Prob still mad they projected the Steelers would be last in the division this year and theyre in the lead.
Why everyday they ask if the Steelers are contenders.. yeah they are! So what? So are the ravens and the bills and the ravens and whoever goes to the Wild cards
Man, they have nothing to talk about. He said He's not going to coach in the NFL. He said that He can't follow his sons everywhere. Stop with the antics ESPN. That's why yall ratings is going down.
@LordFarquuad5 I don't like Greeny being a homer either. But I DO acknowledge even if I don't want them coming over a case to be made for both Deion & Shedeur.
We won in a shot out against the redskins and foxworth used to be a raven of course hes going to hate they say we didn’t play no one but when we do and beat them then they say we got lucky or we are not there yet like what we are 14 and 1 in ine possession games and 2 and 0 in just games without touchdowns. Like it doesn’t matter how many points we win by a win is a win
Steelers are 5-0 vs current playoff teams but they arent contenders because... They havent plaued the chiefs or the bills? Sorry lions I guess y'all arent superbowl contenders either
these guys clearly dont watch games 😂😂 “where the points?” averaged 30 the last month, and we’ve won games every which way, keep moving the goalpost tho
biased..its all biased…before the year steelers were projected last…roun week 3-4 they “havent played anyone”…. then russ came they played better…dropping 24+ a game the ravens come..lamar is gonna show the steelers…now its “well thas a division game so it doesnt count” the steelers have beat 5 teams w a positive record idk why theres always an excuse to keep them out the convo
This discussion illustrates why these guys can only talk sports but can't be actual GMs. The Cowboys just paid Dak 4 years/240M, with 231 of them guaranteed. And the contract hasn't even kicked in and you going to draft his replacement? My god what a bunch of nonsense dufus
Ion even know whose these talking heads are…. So credibility. Don’t know anything my steelers. We’ve won in many ways… no one’s putting us in a shootout
7:31 there is nothing wrong with black nepotism.. It would just look ultimately pathetic if his daddy is coaching him IN the NFL. Justice pathetic as LeBron getting his son into the NBA.. 🤜🏿🤛🏼 TRUMP 2024
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They have been talking about Deion for a week straight
So? I bet you weren't complaining when they were talking about Tom Brady 20 years straight
And pretending like its just a natural conversation 😂 its pretty clear the colorado marketing genius is paying for these tv spots
He's a black African 🚬🤦
@@1025MG yah but tom was in the nfl and Deion isn’t
@Bobbleheads56 bro if you think colorado is paying for this you have lost your mind. ESPN is trying to stop coach prime recruiting
I swear they stay hating the Steelers for some reason, they just beat the commanders and ravens, 2 of the best offenses in the league, in different ways….. yeah your bias has shown
Kimberley Martin "WhERe aRe ThE pOIntS?" Bruh, we went into this game averaging 30.8ppg with Wilson at QB.. Also, you don't have to rely on your offense scoring 27+ per game when your defense holds basically everyone to under 20.
Exactly it’s just false controversy meant to bring attention
Either she doesn't know ball or she's purposely obtuse.
Yup, and let's take it even further: even if you include the Ravens game, they've averaged 27.3 ppg with Wilson which would be 6th in the NFL - and that's with zero defensive TDs and only 1 special teams score (Austin return td) during that time. So there's the points.
They’ve had 5 games this year with 20 points or less against mid defenses. The teams they’ve scored against aren’t exactly great either, giants, jets, raiders like cmon dude get real. This offense is not doing the defense any favors if they get bounced in the playoffs it’s 100% because they ain’t scoring enough
@@kylesawkon4074 You realize you're talking about 2 different offenses right? One with Justin Fields as our QB and the other as Russell Wilson as our QB. Also, considering this is Russell Wilson's first game not scoring 25 points as a Steeler. Imma just chalk it up to being a Ravens vs Steelers game.
"Where are the points?" So if you look juuuuust to the left of the point totals, you'll see that column with a bunch of Ws in it. Focus on that.
Agree 100% bro.
No such category as "Style Points" in the NFL...This always happens to the Steelers, ever since the 70's really. They win and win...and win, even the Super Bowls (of which they have 6 thank you very much) and people always try and either lesson the value of the win, or even argue away the win into some kind of loss.
The 70's Super Bowls argument: College recruiting strategy and Steroid use BEFORE the rules and medical information came out.
All the rest of the Super Bowl wins arguments: Luck, bad officiating, or crazy claims that the games were "fixed"
Every time the Steelers have a great season people try and take it away by making it seem undeserved. I'll just quote Mike Tomlin, "We're not going to apologize for winning."
Steelers have 6 Lombardi Trophies...and you don't. *mic drop*
Even still it’s an irrelevant argument they pose. You can’t win games without out scoring the other team. You might not like how they’re doing it or think it’s not as entertaining or efficient, but the Steelers are outscoring their opponents.
These are the analysts?? Pittsburgh can't win more than one way?! They just won a divisional game with all field goals....last game against Washington it was a game-winning TD from Mike Williams...TJ Watt can END A GAME by himself! Special teams block field goals and score punt return TDs. Why are these people being paid again? The Steelers hate is REAL! I really hope they read these comments. ESPN needs better analysts.....BAD lol
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The Pittsburgh offense would be a concern if the other contenders in the AFC were offensive juggernauts. Which none of them are. Chiefs bills chargers Texans none of them are dominant offensively. The only dominant offensive team is the ravens and they always play them really well. Pittsburgh has excellent coaching great defense and probably the best special teams in football. So yes they are absolutely contenders.
Dominique is pissed to say the Steelers are contenders. That girl don't have a clue. When pints are needed, points will be put up by the Steelers.
Their offense looks mid dude sorry to break it to you. Defense is carrying and they need to score more and get a solid run game going
@@kylesawkon4074they scored 28 points against the commanders, scored 26 on the giants, 37 on the jets, and 18 points on the ravens. You’re really blind by the media telling you they ain’t good
@ redskins defense is 18th overall, giants and jets are terrible lol and ravens defense ain’t impressive. I think steelers defense is good I don’t think their offense is good
@@kylesawkon4074 giants defense are leading the league in sacks, jets are a good team. Literally everyone is saying “let’s see if the Steelers beat a really good team in commanders or Ravens” what else do you want them to do? Beat the chiefs? Bc no one other than the bills hasn’t beaten the chiefs yet
@@kylesawkon4074 Russ literally threw 3 touchdowns against the commanders which were in the red zone, plus a rushing td which was in the red zone
Steelers have been in a shootout with the commanders and won, they’ve scored a lot of points, they’ve won with defense, they’ve won with running the ball, they’ve won passing, they’ve won with special teams. Every point they made is false and out of delusion or hatred for the team. They HAVE won in different ways, teams HAVE put points on them where the Steelers ended up winning. Close this clown show down.
Cant win in multiple ways?? Fox wtf are you watching? We can win the game on literally on 3 fronts. Offense is our weakest spot and when everything is working properly we score 30+. We have more blocked kicks than anyone else this year. Our special teams is without a doubt top 3. Our defense has the DPOY and is easily top 3. Bunch of haters on here.
When Lamar Jackson was the MVP favorite, some of them on this panel would say Jarrod Goff was the real MVP. Now that Lamar isn't the MVP favorite, Jarrod Goff isn't the reason the Lions are winning; he’s benefiting from Penei Sewell’s plays. It's funny how suddenly Penei Sewell is recognized as the playmaker of the Lions over Jarrod Goff since Lamar is in second place for the MVP right now.
That's games that media plays for viral moments.
White QBs equal Superbowls 🚬🫡
@@goodnightmunchie 🙄 🤦🏾♂just go away
@kxngdavid ditto. This race baiting rhetoric doesn't work anymore.
We could win the superbowl and the talk the next week would be "How Dave managed to beat goliath" despite the Steelers being clearly a top 5 team.
How is Deion the best available head coach when he's not available? This is why ESPN is unwatchable.
Reporter: "what are your impressions of your offense today?"
Mike Tomlin: "W!"
Imagine deion to the Bears
I truly hate what greeny has done with sports debate
It’s pathetic forreal that’s these guys sit around him and allow him to make terrible points.
Skip Bayless created this model. Greeny is just following the pattern.
Why do they keep pitching him to the NFL if he consistently says he doesn't want to coach in that league.
I feel like the NCAA is paying these networks to put this information/Rumor out there. You all just want him out of College football, that's all. Deion never said anything about NFL football, and Dallas never said anything about Deion, but all of a sudden, every sports media outlet wants Deion in Dallas/NFL
Leave this man alone. if he wants to, we will know. Stop forcing a false narrative
Black privilege that's all 🚬🤔
...You are PURPOSELY HURTING his RECRUITING EFFORTS! Get someone on the show who will argue for Deion and Colorado...
The 2002 Bucs come to mind when talking about this year’s Steelers.
Why is sports media steering to will Deion to the NFL when he’s stated multiple times he doesn’t want to
Chics SOUND SOO OUTTA TOUCH WEN SPEAK MENS SPORTS!!🤔🤨😅🤣
“Where are the points?” Tells me all I need to know. It’s Steelers vs ravens. Do your research
Haters! Shoot out? The Steelers have played number 2,4, 16, 17, 18, 19 in the league points per game. Steelers are 5-1 in those games. Steelers avg. 21 opponents 13. If the defense is good shoot outs dont happen.
The Steelers slander is crazy. They’ve beaten more above .500 teams than below .500 teams (Falcons 6-5, Broncos 6-5, Chargers 7-3, Commanders 7-4, and Ravens 7-4) this is professional football style points don’t matter as long as they have one more point than the other team all the other stats bs is irrelevant
so 1 game which was a division game btw, makes the offense trash? yall have 0 football knowledge stop hiring these people
" they can't win by a bunch of different ways". This guy is a joke. Hes really talking about the Chiefs who have been winning by luck. They finally played a team who put up 30 and they lost.
The Steelers are legit whether you like it or not.
Kim is here? Pass!
I love how the coaches get praised to keep jumping from team to team, but players(college or pro) have no loyalty. It would make sense for deion to leave that's his thing.
6:35 Hawk hit it on the nail!
Sonic and knuckles reference 🙌🏾
My Jets need a general manager, a head coach AND once again, a quarterback. But that does not mean I'm getting on the Deion & Shedeur train.
Deion said himself he wants him and his son to land in Miami
Lmaoo they move rhe goal post every time for the Steelers , just before the ravens game we averaged 30ppg , now one game we don’t get to that “ where are the points” they need to let me on the show cause they scared to say the truth
5:25 Steelers won with the long bomb last min with Russ two weeks ago go with special teams and defense this week and with 3 tds by Russ 3 weeks ago those seem pretty different imo
Didn't we just have a 30 point PPG average a week or so ago...."where are the points???"...Some are hired just to disrespect the Steelers.
Deon please stay in Colorado. Those young men need you. Dallas is a toxic environment.
He should keep his black African kids away from the Cowboys also 🚬🙂
Chill out🙄
He ain’t leaving unless the Florida State job opens😊
Jets fans in the media are the biggest crybabies and sore losers 😂
Deion & Shedeur to the Dallas Cowboys
Steelers defense could potentially carry them but their offense is holding them back
Marching orders for this week-Deion Sanders! It’s exhausting!
“if he stinks, it doesn’t matter who his daddy is”
LeTard and Bronny James entered the chat. 😂🤡🫵
Greeny is always factual
Now I see what coach prime and Colorado is going through smh
“First father and son duo to win a Super Bowl”
He’d be dumb to pass that chance up.
Any team that has a chance to get them both would be dumb to pass that chance up, too.
Both to the raiders. Brady has worked and can continue to work with his Deion’s son.
He’s not leaving Colorado he’s about to land a five star recruit at QB.
Honestly if the situation is right Giants might go Sanders in the draft.
In 2000 the Baltimore Ravens defense outplayed the offense that whole entire season and help them win the Superbowl 2001! Ray Lewis won the MVP award!! So you don't always needs the offense to outscored a team consistently to win the Superbowl. It might not be pretty and probably boring because of the low scoring game. But it can be done!! Defense win games.
So because we don’t play the bills or Texans that automatically means that we are not good we don’t make our schedule
Why do they keep talking about Deion going to coach in the NFL? He's made it clear he has no interest in leaving Colorado.
At the end of the day, 18 points > 16 points.
The Bengals score points nearly at will and I wouldn’t bet $5 on them to win any game.
How are they doing this? Dieon never said he was going to the NFL, so why include him in a package deal with his son. Their deliberately taking the shine from sheduer.
Deion has said Multiple Times ....he doesn't want to go to NFL
Too much promo for the prime especially from SAS. Cowboys can't be saved
YAY ANOTHER VID COMPLETELY IGNORING DEIONS WORDS TO TRY AND MAKE A NARRATIVE MY FAVORITE😊😊😊😊. Actually ridiculous how they are still doing this.
Can someone explain. To me why this lady is in one of the expert chairs?
The other three experts are ex players and Greeny is the host but she consistently disagrees with them, even when discuss the atmosphere of a MEN’s locker room.
She doesn’t even seem to be a stats nerd type like Mina Kimes.
Why is she even on this show?
That chick is the biggest Steelers hater. The Ravens lose to bad teams she’ll say theyre still SB contenders. The Steelers beat good teams and theyre not SB contenders. Prob still mad they projected the Steelers would be last in the division this year and theyre in the lead.
Why is Kimberley here? Genuine question. Why is her opinion deemed important enough to be on this show?
Yeah if Jared Goff don’t get over 5000 passing yards at the end of the season behind this O-Line then I that’s just a flop
He goin to da giants w shadeur n prolli shiloh. He can do whatever he wants there
Deion gone let shaduer do him. He got him there now let him on his own. He’d be dimming his lights he did his job
These analysts are a joke ngl 😂😂😂
Why everyday they ask if the Steelers are contenders.. yeah they are! So what? So are the ravens and the bills and the ravens and whoever goes to the Wild cards
Deion already said he staying lmao
They’ve won shoot outs tho they won with special teams
This dude hate the Steelers, keep hating. We will keep winning.
Deion and Shedeur Sanders could go to The New York Giants in 2025
Lmao Giants don't want those black African fellas 🚬😅
I vote for that. But I think the Jets would beat them to the punch unfortunately if it was a possibility😊
@@vincente4570 Giants got the higher pick in the draft tho, they should have a top 3 pick and could really make a move like that
@@goodnightmunchie Yeah I remember that lawsuit. Sucks it got thrown out too.
@ I agree
Shedeur should go to the Raiders or Giants. Deion should stay in Colorado.
Man, they have nothing to talk about. He said He's not going to coach in the NFL. He said that He can't follow his sons everywhere. Stop with the antics ESPN. That's why yall ratings is going down.
DEION SAID HES NOT GOING ANYWHEREEEEEEEEEE
Greeny gotta stick with his Jets delusions and stop beating a dead horse with this 🤦🏿♂️.
ESPN really just losing it smh
@LordFarquuad5 I don't like Greeny being a homer either. But I DO acknowledge even if I don't want them coming over a case to be made for both Deion & Shedeur.
We won in a shot out against the redskins and foxworth used to be a raven of course hes going to hate they say we didn’t play no one but when we do and beat them then they say we got lucky or we are not there yet like what we are 14 and 1 in ine possession games and 2 and 0 in just games without touchdowns. Like it doesn’t matter how many points we win by a win is a win
Naw Greeny needs to talk about his Jets because we all know he would have been shoving that dumpster fire down our throats if they were winning
New Orleans
They do stupid Shedeur is not about to be back up QB & Dak ain’t going nowhere b/c no one will take on his cap debt
Steelers are 5-0 vs current playoff teams but they arent contenders because... They havent plaued the chiefs or the bills? Sorry lions I guess y'all arent superbowl contenders either
THATS WHY THEY LOST TOO BROWNS ULL NO KNOW FOOTBALL!! EXCEPT Greeny Chica STIFLE F, OVERRATED raven crows 🥺🤔🥺🤔
Kimberly is terrible
Can’t win in a bunch of different ways??? Who is buddy in the red jacket he tripping
Please coach the bears Deion we begging u 😂
these guys clearly dont watch games 😂😂 “where the points?” averaged 30 the last month, and we’ve won games every which way, keep moving the goalpost tho
biased..its all biased…before the year steelers were projected last…roun week 3-4 they “havent played anyone”…. then russ came they played better…dropping 24+ a game
the ravens come..lamar is gonna show the steelers…now its “well thas a division game so it doesnt count”
the steelers have beat 5 teams w a positive record idk why theres always an excuse to keep them out the convo
This discussion illustrates why these guys can only talk sports but can't be actual GMs. The Cowboys just paid Dak 4 years/240M, with 231 of them guaranteed. And the contract hasn't even kicked in and you going to draft his replacement? My god what a bunch of nonsense dufus
In which its undermines Jerry’s theory on tanking☹️
They’re 8-2
What more proof do you need….
Ion even know whose these talking heads are…. So credibility. Don’t know anything my steelers. We’ve won in many ways… no one’s putting us in a shootout
Who cares how the Steelers win? These idiots have no idea what they’re talking about! Good teams find any way to win! Like Tomlin said “W”
Let the me man win a championship first
No
How many times does the man have to say he's NOT coaching entitled lazy NFL players before ESPN drops this fake storyline?
I know mun🤷🏿
I no🤦🏿♂️
bro said the steelers only move the ball because george pickens makes catches, is that what hes there for?💀💀💀💀💀 omfg this show is for losers
OMG🤦🏽♂️🤦🏿🤦🏻♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦♂️
Greeny gives snitch vibes
Kim let me in that sweater with you
greenberg annoying af
7:31 there is nothing wrong with black nepotism.. It would just look ultimately pathetic if his daddy is coaching him IN the NFL. Justice pathetic as LeBron getting his son into the NBA.. 🤜🏿🤛🏼 TRUMP 2024
I disagree. I think nepotism in professional sports is always a bad idea. It's supposed to be the most merit based thing.
@vante9588 It was sarcasm. I agree with you. 🤜🏿🤛🏼
If black Africans don't get their way they play the race card 🚬🧐