Murder In Paradise (Crime Documentary) | Real Stories
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- Опубликовано: 10 авг 2018
- Murder In Paradise (Crime Documentary) | Real Stories
In the early hours of 15th September, two British backpackers, Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found dead, brutally beaten just yards from their hotel in Koh Tao, Thailand.
A paradise attracting thousands of tourists every year, their deaths took to 13 the number of British visitors killed in Thailand over the last five years. There have been more since and it has been argued that authorities are so anxious to protect the tourist industry that deaths of Westerners often go unexplained or classed as suicides.
With exclusive images, never-before-seen evidence and interviews with key figures on the island, Murder in Paradise sheds new light on a global news story, putting Thailand under the spotlight and asking whether this is still the travel destination from heaven, or hell?
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The message here is, STOP supporting these people and pick a new travel destination. There are so many choices!!
@lightsouthaha the mayor of that island speaks right about it.but one question why are the victims always from england.i know it because every country i come to visit they have no respect for the locals population.
lightsouthaha some solid victim blaming there
"these people" as if other countries don't have murderers. Thailand has 5 murders per 100K inhabitants... USA has 4.7.
lightsouthaha go hang out in a back street in New York. Are you for real?
6 deaths in 2 years, only 2 of them proven murders, wow it must be the murder island, let's avoid it as it was a leper colony! And let's go somewhere safe, like LA or NY maybe right!
I find it frustrating that so many victim's families want a guilty verdict - even if there are doubts. It's almost like, "Well, at least someone is getting punished."
I totallty agree with your comment!
@smirna11 get a brain transplant ASAP.
Falsely accusing someone of a crime, especially one as horrendous as murder, just gives you false answers. What sense does that make? I'd want the REAL murderer of my loved one(s) punished, not the fall guy used to make police look like they did their damn job.
dito
Never lost a loved one yet, have 'ya.
They can’t find the right killer…but if someone dared
to insult the King or royal family…they would rain justice down upon them.
Poor young men killed for a crime they didn't commit. What a horrendous tragedy! My heart breaks for them and their mothers.
So how come there DNA 🤔 was found on the scene explain that
How do u know they didn't commit that crime
@@emmaoduge8145 Correction how come "their" This is obviously a corrupt island run by mobsters. It could be planted, or an outright lie..... But the more pressing question is why young Western tourists continue to visit. It is beyond all common sense...I will not be vacationing in Afghanistan with the Taliban or a crocodile pit....If it is unsafe, simple solution.....don't visit.
@@TheAshMcG EXACTLY
@@emmaoduge8145 Even YOUR DNA could be found on the scene if the Thai police feel like it.
I’m a Thai and I’m ashamed. We all knew what really happened but cant do anything about it.
😢 So sad.
So I guess the next question would be what really did happen ?
If you think you know what actually happened perhaps you would share that with those of us who would like to know what the truth is
Ronnie
Notice he has a month to answer you but doesn't and he's probably just a troll... if he knows why doesn't he just say what's going on instead of being cryptic
@@gardensofthegods Another one who doesn't understand Thai culture. They won't speak out because of the fear of reprisal. Look to the bar mentioned previously if you wish to know what most people are thinking.
@@Babekue4 I completely believe so too. No blood found at their homes clothing or scooter they were driving? The only one who was there when they died (caught on cctv running) was the same guy who "found the bodies" hmmm... They swabbed all of those people but not him? (At least not accurately) also....why was Seam who was bleeding (who probably knows what happened) hushed not to speak out? What does that matter unless the mafia were trying to hide something? Also why all the other murders (including after?) They are innocent. The guy who found them said someone woke him up frantically! Why him? Then doesn't that mean that person saw it first? Where are they?? I believe he went to go try to check the scene for the weapons or to hide any evidence left behind. But he missed the ax the weapon that didn't contain the 2 barnese men's DNA. I believe the rest was planted.
Im from there and I refuse to go back there for vacation! It’s a dangerous country and the law there doesn’t protect you! I feel terrible about the tourist that was killed there! What I don’t understand is why people continue to go there after knowing the risk?!
Could you tell me how comes their DNA are in Vagina's victim?
You're the victim of mainstream media. They're taking charge because of the following evidence 1. CCTV footage shows they were entering to the crime scene that night 2. CCTV footage from 7-Eleven store shows they bought cigarettes (same brand found at the crime scene) 2. DNA found in vagina match both of them 3. Cigarette butts found at the crime scene match both of them 4. David's IPhone was buried at their renting house. Have you ever heard all of these information before? DNA fingerprinting results are automatically saved to computer and if someone try to falsify the results, it would be easily detected. The DNA tests were completed at least 10 days before they were arrested.
@Summer W r u sure u'r safe where u r?...haven't you heard victims of serial killers in town?...
I feel sad for you. This disturbing stuff is hard for everyone, your feelings cause me sadness that that is how you feel about your homeland. One should love where they are from & be proud, but to be honest & realistic is more admirable and hopeful to change. I am doubtful there is a kind place left on this planet that mankind has not corrupted.
Thank you
Those 2 guys who are small by Asian standards. I can't see them looking at a guy that big and thinking, "this guy is the one we should attack"
good point--thought that myself.
Putting two innocent men in jail is not justice for your loved ones! It’s plain to see that this is a total frame up! In fact, it totally denigrates the memories of David and Hannah!!
WHY is it that in each and every reporting of this horrific case, the FACT that the original police quickly identified Nom Sod and his uncle of the Vichien family to be the guilty parties, and then are swiftly replaced by another police team, thus implicating the Thai government itself in a cover up, is always omitted? How short people's memories are. And still the killing goes on.
STOP going to Koh Tao, STOP putting money in their pockets!!
I agree. Stop going to Thailand altogether, such a greedy, ungrateful nation. I’d rather spend my money somewhere else.
Thailand more nice and less bad people in the year 60/70/80 then all changes I never go back to every island 😰
Kat7 what about pattaya
Jesse Bradshaw I’d rather spend my money somewhere else. Greedy Thai people don’t even appreciate it. Maybe now with COVID they will finally realize how good they have it because of tourism.
Could you tell me how comes their DNA are in Vagina's victim?
I feel so sorry about those innoncent boys and their family.. this is so sad ...this what happened when you poor and no power... higher power can just drag you by the neck and say that you re guilty !!
“The tests comply with something I can’t remember”..... sounds solid
the miller family shouldve wanted the right ones to pay for it not just ANYONES! wtf!
Bacil Smith idiots, unfortunately...
Shame on the Miller family
absolutely pathetic and disgusting on their part , so obvious the two guys are innocent
The truth justice in heaven will take care of it. Amen.
Could you tell me how comes their DNA are in vagina's victim?
Anyone else noticed that the hotel owner said he was the first one who saw bodies, when he was woken up by his worker? Surely it would be the worker who saw the bodies first, why would he panic if he didn't see bodies?
Julie Julie if someone told you there was a dead body outside you wouldn’t just walk away calmly
he said he was the first Thai person. His worker is probably Burmese
That should be suspect #1
The first THAI person. Theres a difference.
Pee Off YES!! Omg I was hoping someone else caught that
My relatives live in Thailand. The government would do anything to protect the tourism industry. A foreigner was robbed and murdered, the newspaper called it suicide. My relatives knew the victim well.
many old foreign men have 'supposedly' died of suicide jumping from balcany of hotels in pattaya and I would say most have them have been murdered pushed off the balcany by a ladyboy angry about not enough money paid or a prostitute not paid enough or some other arguement
@@babkeebabkus8177 Oh Lord...😒😐
@@seavista4810 yep...dunno how many over the past 25 years but it would be over a dozen
sometimes its the tourist doing foolish things .
How come these 2 Burmese DNA found in vagi** victim? The DNA tests have completed at least 10 days before they were arrested.
My heart is crying for the 2 boys that were convicted for something they were forced to say they did 😢😢
If any of you people that have plan on traveling anywhere in this world . Do take care of yourself and stay alert cause you cant trust anyone to watch your back or to protect you . Please be safe people . 😧
As a career flight attendant, I agree with your comment. Be aware of your environment and don't go to anyone's hotel room no matter how great looking or well off they appear. Don't wander off alone. You need to always be alert, especially if you don't speak the language
And heavy drinking doesn't help. Anywhere in the world.
Poor families... these kids did not kill them no way...
Could you tell me how comes their DNA are in vagina's victim?
You're the victim of mainstream media. They're taking charge because of the following evidence 1. CCTV footage shows they were entering to the crime scene that night 2. CCTV footage from 7-Eleven store shows they bought cigarettes (same brand found at the crime scene) 2. DNA found in vagina match both of them 3. Cigarette butts found at the crime scene match both of them 4. David's IPhone was buried at their renting house. Have you ever heard all of these information before? DNA fingerprinting results are automatically saved to computer and if someone try to falsify the results, it would be easily detected. The DNA tests were completed at least 10 days before they were arrested.
@@mtha7796 you are replying this same reply on every comment.
@@roshnik5137 every comments? I don't think so.
@@mtha7796 u only mentioned the v.. evidence haha, why there are other men DNA evidence on the killer weapon? Are u the lobby from the local police force?
When i heard and saw the suspects mothers cried... Oh man :(
Christina Annesley asked too many questions on the 9 murders and a missing woman to locals. She died few hours later. When her father asked to watch the CCTV, thai police asked him to pay and then they said they lost it, same thing with the blood samples, they charged the Annesley family a lot of money, resulting in the blood being manipulated and impossible for the uk coroner to use it. Christina Annesley was killed on January 2015 in Koh Tao.
Was just watching a doc about her case called death on a beach it talks about all the murders
@@johnscanlon2598 can you provide a link or tell me what platform to watch this documentary?
Thanks in advance!
Probably a bunch of corrupt cops
Best thing to do here is spread this far and wide. Stop going to this place, no more vacationers, and no more drunk foreigners. Apparently being drunk is asking for death here even though the locals are the ones benefiting from the sale of booze. Economic boycotts work.
Agreed f them corruption and murderers
should be nice that could be done , and it worked ..but that is a dream ,...
@@reneel2441 compare Thai crime to US crime...
Being drunk isn't "asking for death" but people lack common sense. They drink and do drugs and end up in situations they would never get into if they weren't under the influence. Happens every day and not only in foreign countries. I've heard this story hundreds of times.
I searched on internet about the two young man:
Two men who were convicted of killing two young British tourists on a Thai holiday island have had their death sentences commuted to life imprisonment by Thailand’s king.
Zaw Lin and Wai Phyo, two migrant workers from Myanmar, were among the convicts whose sentences were reduced under a clemency decree issued by King Maha Vajiralongkorn to mark his 68th birthday on 28 July, according to the men’s lawyer.
Quite honestly, a life sentence in those prisons might actually be worse than death. Complete travesty of justice. Those young men were nothing more than cannon fodder.
The way the mayor was talking I got a STRONG feeling he is involved.
At least he is paid off to not reveal the real killer. Most likely a young thai from a prominent family on the island.
Or even a police officer.
They're taking charge because of the following evidence 1. CCTV footage shows they were entering to the crime scene that night 2. CCTV footage from 7-Eleven store shows they bought cigarettes (same brand found at the crime scene) 3. DNA found in vagina match both of them 4. Cigarette butts found at the crime scene match both of them 5. David's IPhone was buried at their renting house. Have you ever heard all of these information before? DNA fingerprinting results are automatically saved to computer and if someone try to falsify the results, it would be easily detected. The DNA tests were completed at least 10 days before they were arrested .
I was really enjoying all the 30 second video ads on this! but for some reason they keep getting interrupted by some tedious documentary!
Great copy-paste.
Far too many commercials
You can skip the ads by moving to the end of the show, then restarting it.
😂 LOL
It's free. Can't be picky..
Damn, that guy sure wanted everyone to know that he was the first to see the bodies. Correction, he was the first thai to see the bodies. He literally said that phrase four times through throughout this documentary. He was super excited you could tell. After all he got to talk to the main investigators that flew all the way there from the bigger city off the island, because he was the first to see the bodies. Hey in case you didn't get that, he saw the bodies before anybody else said. Oh wait, you didn't know? Yeah, first person. Christ
I was not clear on that, so did he see the bodies first?
Why was he allowed to be near the crime scene
@@evamajok07 he an undercover Thai cop
I just love that mayor..."it all depends on fate"... "it's these foreigner's own fault"...good to know that Thailand hasn't changed much since I last saw it in '72.
@Zsuzsanna Varga yeah let's see how feels once foreigners stop visiting and they make no money from tourism, corrupt af
If drinking is your hobby in a foreign country, you put yourself at unnecessary risk. Make better choices and look out for yourself.
If he was sure he should say sorry we gave Burmese settlers but now he cannot catch anyone
He say tourist guilty , not Burmese strange
@@StrangerOnTheWeb see what? Foreigners literally think that Thai mostly income come from the tourisms lmao
@@cornpopsmom1783 agreed, those foreigners are too free. They think that as 3rd country with a lot of people being kind to them, they can do what they want
The father of one of the girls murdered , tracked down the tourist who was the last person with his daughter . The father said that the man 'seemed straightforward ! What did he expect..... the man to confess?! Sometimes the murder of tourists are committed by other tourists
The father of one of the girls? Which one? Hannah?
@@KimAhrina11 Sorry I can’t remember . I wrote the comment 2 years ago !
@@KimAhrina11 no not Hannah another English girl was found dead in her accommodation
I think we all have to be careful when we travel to any other countries in this world (even in the country you live in)... Not only Thailand.
Certainly, I visited a rural area outside of baton rouge and even a local warned my friend and I to leave that place before it gets dark! Where ever I travel to I take heed of the warnings.
trust no one we are born in sin and corrupted world ,,,every where we are in this dark age , most of them are evil spirit worshiper,,,, it's danger don even deceive by their sweet hospitallity beware and be alert dont drink just flee youthful lust,,,,,
Wow. I do agree with you STASHA. I went on a really nice 7 day luxury cruise. I could remember thinking how easy it would be for someone to pull me into a room because the halls were quite narrow. When I went out on the deck it was really dark, there was some light but I could see how someone could sneak up on me while I was looking over the water. My mom always said "you never know who's watching"
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Okayy you’re to the
I’m English & the same age as Hannah. I was on the island when this happened. I remember It took them so long to close off the island (which would have been relatively easy as the only access is by boat) and preserve the crime scene. Photos of the mutilated bodies spread across the internet like wildfire. I loved Thailand, but this definitely made me aware of the dangers, and the huge issues with the police over there. Personally I’ve always thought it was another tourist who committed the murders & the Burmese workers were simply scapegoats, easy targets because they had no legal representation, spoke a different language, and ultimately were tortured with no repercussions for the police. It was all about painting the illusion of control, if they hadn’t made arrests, It could have threatened the tourist industry which Thailand relies on so heavily. The way the mayor spoke about the deaths of tourists makes my blood boil as well. Absolutely awful for the victims and their families.
Two questions. Why do you think it was another tourist and are those photos police photos or from people hanging around the beach?
GhastlyCretin85 the photos are police photos and it’s never been confirmed how they were released to the public domain. I think it’s another tourist for a few reasons, firstly the lack of police on the island make it an ideal place for crime. The only aggression I ever saw when I was in Thailand was tourists fighting other tourists. I think it’s more likely that it was someone who attended the same party that they did, I think Hannah maybe turned someone down and that person couldn’t let it go, and David either interrupted or witnessed what happened. I could be completely wrong, but I’ve seen the crime scene photos (they are horrendous) and Hannah’s injuries were a lot more severe, as if she was the intended target.
Apai Ruangwong was the guy who attempted to do the same thing to a NYC woman He was from Thailand..He got 10 years for it. He offered to walk her to her hotel and got mad when she refused
Ellie * I was always under the impression that there was massive cover up as well and I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all. The Burmese guys were just a face that they could pin the crime on, "look we've got the bad guys now please keep coming to our island now" but there seems to be consistent suspicious deaths of tourists in Thailand.
El DoubleYou "there seems to be consistent suspicious deaths of tourists in Thailand."
This makes me think it's not a tourist, Read Richard Sharps comment on my post. He lived near the AC bar for 2 years, says there were lots of drug-rape allegations around that bar which is also partly owned by a top cop.
Family seemed so eager to find someone responsible that they just accepted the corrupt “results”.
I agree with you but also you cannot be 100% sure those 2 were inoccent..
Jon bones Mahomes So like, I am not sure! But I accept that becoz it is only available. This will comfort me than having nothing ?
Disgusting to just let anyone be convicted due to your hurt. I would want to be sure I had the correct people PERIOD
Hearing that mother weep for her child. My soul felt it. I find it hard to believe these kids killed or raped Hannah & David. Plus if they were the killers why are people still being kilt even with them in prison.
Also I hate that David family is glad to see these young men put to death. Yes you want someone to be blamed for his death , but just like he was taken from you , these young boys are now being taken from their families. Two wrongs never makes anything right!
I understand your way of thinking but after the knowledge I have now I can't think that way ever again. Way too many gruesome murders...I am for the death penalty. People that murder and rape should be given the harshest punishment. Just look at what happened to those two people...or Dahmers, Bundys, BTKs, victims...they took lives in the most horrific of ways. I am definitely glad some still put those monsters to sleep. Just my opinion. Not getting to force it on anyone so don't come back with that bs.
@@MetaMortis21 - I agree with you as long as they are 100% certain that they have the killers. There's been way too many cases of innocent people convicted of crimes they didn't commit.
Welp never going there
Tony Flamingo 👍👍👍 that's not good place at all Not Me.
Tony Flamingo me neither!
Oh. Someone likes living in fear.
They don't care about you, stop acting like you are a huge factor to Thai tourism.
Don't imagine that paradise, i.e., utopia exists. Human beings have the same compulsions and desires wherever you go. You don't know who you will encounter.
Someone may give you a generous smile, while planning to knife you for your belongings. Exercise the same precautions you would if you were in Boston or any major city, because opportunistic people live everywhere. Don't forget that.
I wouldn’t go if they pay me
Could you tell me how comes their DNA are in vagina's victim?
You're the victim of mainstream media. They're taking charge because of the following evidence 1. CCTV footage shows they were entering to the crime scene that night 2. CCTV footage from 7-Eleven store shows they bought cigarettes (same brand found at the crime scene) 2. DNA found in vagina match both of them 3. Cigarette butts found at the crime scene match both of them 4. David's IPhone was buried at their renting house. Have you ever heard all of these information before? DNA fingerprinting results are automatically saved to computer and if someone try to falsify the results, it would be easily detected. The DNA tests were completed at least 10 days before they were arrested.
My heart goes out for all these victims, that includes the two framed convicted Burmese men. I hope that
David Miller and Luke Miller are not brothers, if they are, it will further break my heart.
the 1rst time you visit Thai, you understand that life costs nothing there
Welcome to SouthEast Asia. Life has never cost much there.
It typically costs about 3 grand (100k baht)
I was warned about this island already in 2006 by an English guy. He got drugged and robbed there, then chased of the island (threaten) by the police and in his words 'the maffia'. Something of being hanged if he would stay. And yes, there is always a thai girl involved (mix couples are really frown upon). So seeing this documentary (with bits of salt of course), it didn't surprise me at all. I'm just happy I never went for these 'party' island and in this way could meet the 'real' thai and their country.
They are a disgrace to our contry and don't represent Thailand at all. Please don't generalize.
@@parichatc5479 - So that island is not part of your country or what
@@parichatc5479 well, if they're allowed to keep killing, they do represent Thailand. They show us that Thai people are okay with having a safe haven for The Killer. So it would make me feel unsafe to walk the streets knowing that no dy is gonna help me. 👋
Parichat C why you Thais don’t say anything about what’s going on in koh Tao? Please explain, what you Thais think about koh Tao?
Westerners need to completely boycott Koh Tao until justice is done or this will continue happening. It's that simple.
@GLLS007 is not stupid is right. Justice for them
Wow, so thankful you have all the answers
@Strange Boy no way. I just think you are note informed.. there is a family whit a serial killer in.. and they cam do what they like.
I believe those two young men were innocent.. They were framed and tortured.. How awful... 😢😢😢
You're the victim of mainstream media. They're taking charge because of the following evidence 1. CCTV footage shows they were entering to the crime scene that night 2. CCTV footage from 7-Eleven store shows they bought cigarettes (same brand found at the crime scene) 3. DNA found in vagina match both of them 4. Cigarette butts found at the crime scene match both of them 5. David's IPhone was buried at their renting house. Have you ever heard all of these information before? DNA fingerprinting results are automatically saved to computer and if someone try to falsify the results, it would be easily detected. The DNA tests were completed at least 10 days before they were arrested .
@@mtha7796 Interesting
@@mtha7796 You are so stupid it was planted, didn't you hear what those 2 innocent guys, said that the Thai police wanted them to admit other wise they will cut their legs off, they were tortured big time.
They may act ‘innocent’ you know 🌚
I am not commenting on the murders but I must agree with that officer that says people go on vacation and throw their own safety aside. I see it all the time. People go on vacation to remote, or underdeveloped areas, they drink to much and do crazy things.
You have to keep in mind that traffic risks are the same wherever you go. Pavement is just as hard, rocks are just as hard and gravity works all over the planet.
Not to mention, depending on your location, they may or may not have advanced medical services. Do you really want some local Dr. on a remote island trying to cut into your skull to relieve intracranial pressure?
I am not saying don't have fun but be aware of where you are and what you are doing.
Would you get drunk and ride a moped without a helmet at home? Would you climb that rock at home? Just be smart, be aware, we face the same risks, sometimes even more, on vacation as we do at home.
Good thoughts.
Big fan of RS true crime documentaries.
Kelly Sloan me to 😍
Kelly Sloan I need to check more out
Sad to hear this. I'm a Malaysian nearby to Thailand. Been to phuket, koh samui, phi phi island, bangkok etc many times for holidays with friends. Thank god so far we have pleasant experiences. Just want to remind on WESTERNERS TOURISTS to be extra careful while there.
1. Dont drink & party until u lost your memory and unable to control yourself
2. RESPECT the locals even just the passersby or shop workers, any locals that u may think they're insignificant.
3. Dont ever act or talk RUDE or CURSE the locals.
4. Dont even start to pick a fight with the locals. Just dont trigger or press their button
5. If there's any misunderstanding or issues with the locals even the hotel, jus settle it nicely and talk politely. NO SHOUTING or better just say sorry and walk away if its your fault.
If you start any of these you might be in trouble or worse end up dead. And sadly no body knows how you're dead and who caused it. Just listen to 33:34. You see here they dont like tourists do whatever they want on their land. one moment, you could be drinking with your friends you're drunk and didnt aware of what you say or do, you bump into locals bcz you're too drunk and started cursing them and humiliate them, trigger their anger and cause a fight that could lead to murder. this is TRUE STORY.
Thailand is a beautiful place, but we all aware that you need to be extra careful when dealing with locals there especially when you're staying at budget hotels area. Sadly i heard many locals said western tourists are ignorance, big headed, very rude and disrespect d locals, and they like to do whatever they want on the island and it pisses d locals authorities so if any issue arise they tend to want to teach them a lesson.
You gave some excellent advice, but don't expect stupid drunk Westerners to listen. Anyone who is well traveled knows not to get drunk or act in a stupid way. They have no respect for the locals, and have no sense of awareness of where they are, they just assume they can act like they are at home. The worst kind of Westnerner is the drunk and party goer. Just be a normal tourist and refrain from acting like a buffon and you won't get killed.
Shady 90
...ty, YOUR COMMENT IS THE ONLY ONE ON HERE THAT i FOUND TO BE WORTH READING.
It is wrong to kill them of course, but if they are drunk and acting like disgusting pigs, a punch to the face would be a great solution. I have encountered many drunk people in my life, I wanted to knock them out, but never have I thought about killing them.
@shady 90 Wait wait wait. You mean a person gets drunk and let's say that somewhat he ends up saying rude so some locals, and so he was killed. You are trying to justify killing because someone is drunk and being disrespectful? That's some kind of twisted logic you got there.
@@ekxekx08 29:05
her voice is so cool for such type of episodes, the narrative makes total difference.
Don’t go to thailand: it’s dangerous and no justice, or don’t go out at night:
JUST DON'T GO PERIOD
that guy, who first discovered the bodies that was blaming the other English guy, we chase him and he run!! we don't know why! he did it.. often the guilty point the finger to divert attention away from them
R H YES my thoughts as well.
I really believe 100% it was him. I just posted this comment before
"I believe these 2 young men were framed 100%. I believe the guy that "found the bodies" is one of the people involved and that he ran back in the morning to hide any evidence...but he missed the hoe(or couldn't move it in time.) I dont believe for a second that he was not involved as he was also the person running on the cctv late that prior night around the time of the murders. With such a sloppy unplanned murder. The one seen around the crime the most is MOST LIKELY INVOLVED. heLLOOOO!!! like really its pretty clear to me that he was involved. Sean was clearly threatened because he was probably there. The mishandled or lack of investigation and obvious corruption/lies/hiding of evidence by the police show an INSANE LEVEL OF MISCONDUCT. & now these 2 people who were most definitely tortured for their confession just because the one had the phone, were framed. I truly believe they were. Also I wonder who's cigarette butts those were? Were they even tested? Were they planted? Was anyone asked if they even smoked?? Too many things implicate the police and the guy who "found" them? This is just crazy and this case should have been overturned!!! No questions asked. These 2 innocent young men were tortured & framed. Without them allowing for a retest of the evidence for DNA in a controlled regulated environment...they should have never been sentenced. & no trial? No opinion allowed by the forensic expert? How much more corrupted could the justice system be?!"
Good point Sherlock
@@robertahubert9155 றோநபசூநம
Or not
I am speechless after I saw this documentary... I strongly believe the young guys were not the real killers at all.... They were convicted just because someone should have paid the price and someone has been covered up there!!!! Also I have been in Kho Phangan and I can say I saw so many drunk young people from England, Scandinavia who have taken massive amount of drug and go to the jungle without even care about how dangerous this could be!!!! It even couldnt be a local person who killed them it rather can be even person they were partying with form their own circle.... I cannot understand why those nations go there hey cant help themselves stop drinking and taking drugs as crazy, having too free open minded attitude and do not even think to protect themselves at all..... I am pure EU and I can not get it this at all... sorry...
True that . Im a sri lankan . 🙏
the killer is not them. Thai police accused them because they are not thai citizens. they are burmese immigrations.Thai police everything is about money
For real tho, sorry to say that it's their own fault. They're too open minded
I am shocked, as a person age 62 as of the year 2022 that young people use so much drugs and drink so much alcohol. I have no respect for them whatsoever. I’ve never been drunk in my life, I never used any drugs at all, and I simply don’t understand why people cannot simply bask in the beauty of the world as it is, and not use drugs to escape reality. What a bunch of pathetic sub humans. They aren’t even close to being civilized people. Most certainly they should not be killed for this, I am not offering any justification for this. Disgusting to see young people Literally out of their minds. So sad.
🤔🙄🥺😤
As a mother, I would not be satisfied with the verdict. There is enough doubt there that would make me question if those two boys were actually the murderers. I cannot believe the families of the victims were okay with this. I know I would want the actual murderer(s) brought to justice so that they couldn't hurt anyone ever again.
The boys were released after 6 years
Thailand depends a lot on tourism (big chunk of its GDP) and its law enforcement and justice system are also extremely corrupt so if you're wrongly accused for a serious crime, chances of you getting out are slim to none.
I honestly can't believe the victim's family accepted the verdict despite all the doubts presented by the defense team. I know they're angry and sad but all of them were in the courtroom watching the whole thing.
please do not go there!!
Everywhere on the planet happens things, so don't talk bullshit. Thailand is one of the safest country on the world to travel
Corruption and DANGER go hand an hand. Very sad story...
I won't I promise. Lol
As dangerous as India
@@jasonlee4203 seems India is more dangerous for women than men.
People can be so disgusting - taking photos of the dead bodies and posting them to social media. Who does that?
People like Jake Paul
Thank you 🙏 I didn’t know and now I do! You possibly saved a life by posting this! It was a hellava ride!
I just wanna know what happened to the 3rd Burmese guy. The police picked up 3 friends let one go and charged the other 2 with murder. Seems like whatever that guy has to say would be pretty important. Also, how many times can you show a guy twirling a fire stick in 5 min? Apparently 472 times.
Tell your kids not to go there.
Could you tell me how comes their DNA are in vagina's victim
You're the victim of mainstream media. They're taking charge because of the following evidence 1. CCTV footage shows they were entering to the crime scene that night 2. CCTV footage from 7-Eleven store shows they bought cigarettes (same brand found at the crime scene) 2. DNA found in vagina match both of them 3. Cigarette butts found at the crime scene match both of them 4. David's IPhone was buried at their renting house. Have you ever heard all of these information before? DNA fingerprinting results are automatically saved to computer and if someone try to falsify the results, it would be easily detected. The DNA tests were completed at least 10 days before they were arrested.
"The prudent sees danger and hides himself, but the simple go on and suffer for it."
"Wise children take their parents' advice, but whoever makes fun of wisdom won't listen to correction."
Maura L Àmen
The 2 convicts have been pardoned and are to set free after around 6 years of serving in prison.
Personally, i have never believed they killed David and Hannah. Which i could be wrong.
Its good to hear that, they are just a kid they looked innocent to me even though that one kid seem smiling, he may not understanding the verdict
they are still in prison
@@monishmonish-fm3np Yes, they are indeed still in prison and are pleading for a re-trial. I hope and pray they are freed soon. Absolutely disgusting and terrible how it all went down for the victims, their families and the 2 Burmese boys. Shame on Thailand for using Burmese migrants as scapegoats!
I'm a Thai person, really sorry for what happened to these people who died in my country. My deepest apologies for the work of the Thai polices. I'd love to stand by my Thai nation but it's really hard to do because the investigation is so unclear. I am utterly ashamed. Now, 2021 j
Not your fault mate 👍🇮🇪
@@jackmccleary2413 Yeah, they shouldn't be sorry. There's corrupt or incompetent cops everywhere.
@@TheBandit7613 yep mate 👍🇮🇪
Im from the US this happens here too. The police are corrupt in smaller areas, and will force people into making false confessions out of fear. Just for the sake of closing a case. Not your fault at all ❤️
Yeah, it's not my fault.. There's humanity in my heart, asked me what if anyone in my family or friend of mine is involved in this justice system, any action they're doing seems to be wrong. I will carefully ask them to stop. On the other hand if those victims are one of them , I will fight for them no matter how hard I'll do in the right way.
This give me chills. I’ve been to this beautiful island with my bf and have always loved this place. It’s in my top list. We had a great time. But these stories may stop me to wanna go back there again.
Really hard to tell who are the real culprits. I hope all these people get their proper justice eventually, anyhow.
Don't ever go back there
It's not hard to tell at all who did if you live in Koh Tao or Koh Phangan. I lived in KP for 3 years, everyone knows who did it. It was the son of a very well-connected mafia leader on Koh Tao. He killed them with some of his thugs and has killed other people as well. Because of his connections, everyone covered it up.
There will never be justice. They will lock people up for life or give the death sentence for drug dealing. Even if you're not dealing and you get caught with it in your possession they will frame you and get put to death.
Go to Argentina. You will find places that are far more captivating than Thailand and be treated like a king or queen. My father is from Argentina, I go 3 times a year. If you're an American they love you, if you're British don't tell the locals that you are. They still have ill will toward the British because of the Falkland Islands war.
@@Tracydot3 That's what I thought, has to be a well connected mafia leader who are crazy and fantacies of killing tourist people.
@@Tracydot3 is it that guy with the black shirt who was interviewed in this documentary who owns a bar and hotel or something?
My thoughts and prayers to the parents of the two victims.
This is so sad that two young people should for nothing. For me there will alway be a question yhy this girl never listened to her parents when they told her not to go to that Island. Obedience to parents is a blessing. And even after hearing all other British young people who had been murdered in the same Island, people still ho there. European tourists should stop visiting or boycott this Island so that Island suffers economically. What is the beauty of Khotao Island if it is going to cost innocent young lives?
Definitely the Thai Police are covering the real culprits.
I lived in Asia, and what I learnt there is that you are in your own. None can help you if something happens.
Wow. Great series
It's So Sad I think they r both Inocent :(
Could you tell me how comes their DNA are in vagina's victim?
You're the victim of mainstream media. They're taking charge because of the following evidence 1. CCTV footage shows they were entering to the crime scene that night 2. CCTV footage from 7-Eleven store shows they bought cigarettes (same brand found at the crime scene) 2. DNA found in vagina match both of them 3. Cigarette butts found at the crime scene match both of them 4. David's IPhone was buried at their renting house. Have you ever heard all of these information before? DNA fingerprinting results are automatically saved to computer and if someone try to falsify the results, it would be easily detected. The DNA tests were completed at least 10 days before they were arrested.
And still people go to this place!!!
Hana aboya I feel the same way.
This can happen anywhere. And it does happen if a lot of areas you just don't hear it because it's covered up better.
Hana aboya darling it’s not the place but the sick individuals and they are not native to Thailand 🇹🇭 they are in every country,every state and probably every neighbourhood, you could have one living next door. There are sick c@#ts all over the globe 🌎 and not wearing a short skirt is not going to help if that sick c@#t decides “Your the next meal for him” you never know because they look just like you and me and as a victim myself wearing jeans doesn’t matter. If it’s what they’re gunna do then darling they are gunna do if you’re wearing a short skirt or a bloody wet suit,if they have decided to then they will.
Here in London there are 12 murders per month on avarage and yet... almost 8 million people insist living here. Why?
Hana aboya seriously. This isn't the only case AT ALL WHEN IT COMES TO INTERNATIONAL VISITORS. POLICE ARE CORRUPT THERE DRUGS ARE IN CONTROL AND MOST OF THE COUNTRT IS SUPER POOR AND THEY LEECH ONTO BETTER OFF INTERNATIONALS THAT VISIT. ID NEVER EVER VISIT THIS SHITHOLE. IF FAMILIES AS A NORNALCY ALLOW THEIR YOUNG DAUGHTERS TO GO AND PROSTITUTE TO MAKE MONEY FOR THE FAMILY...THATS JUST WRONG IN SO MANY WAYS. THEY ONLY CARE FOR THEM AND THEMSELVES ONLY. THE POLICE THERE NEED TO BE BURIED ALIVE. THEY ALL ARE CORRUPT FROM THE TOP DOWN. IF IT WASNT FOR TOURISM THAT COUNTRY WOUKD HAVE NO MONEY PERIOD.
That was the most abrupt ending ever.
When I started to hear about people vacationing in Thailand I was puzzled why people were going there and still am puzzled as to why 🤔
I can't imagine anyone wanting to vacation there in the first place
@@patriciaboyd2934 The US has many serial killers and school shooters. The UK has Jack the Ripper and under 15 killers. And I still wanna go see these places. I'm sure I'm not the only one. :)
Em B. GOOD FOR YOU
Beverly, are you from Texas?
Young people go there cause it's cheap, others go there because it is cheap and picturesque. Travel is adventure... and most Young western travelers are just looking to party and they can only do that with drugs and alcohol because they don't know any other way?
I lived over there and what I found most offensive was the behaviour of the tourists.. Way to pissed up, stoned, and no respect for the culture the land or the locals. When you have so many young people soo drunk and soo stoned day after day, people are going to die sadly.
So just to clarify. I am not saying murder is OK, What I am saying is that when you go to another country where the majority do not respect or like you because of your behavior and lack of understanding of the culture, your chances of getting hurt, or murdered are far greater
yeah, I want to agree that this kind of behaviour is going to result in some unwanted deaths but it is so hard to blame the victims. Been to Thailand many times and it is amazing how people act, I know they wouldn't act the same in whichever country they come from. A good example is all the road rashes you see on them, mostly from driving drunk. It is still a great place and with millions of people moving in and out of the country every year. I still think it is safe to travel.
A. Midlife Crisis I agree that some tourist are out of control and disrespectful for what ever reason,drugs,alcohol or just happy to be on holiday but surely you are entitled to not get murdered or raped just for being loud and disrespectful?
Yes, i refereed to that in my first comment
Do they not sell the tickets for young folks to party? And make money off them parting?
It has a bar for sakes.
I believe it's a police cover up and an obvious coercion.
Possible
Yeah, but you're an idiot. So stop giving your opinion.
@@Scorch428 and you are a troll so get lost
Could you tell me how comes their DNA are in vagina's victim?
You're the victim of mainstream media. They're taking charge because of the following evidence 1. CCTV footage shows they were entering to the crime scene that night 2. CCTV footage from 7-Eleven store shows they bought cigarettes (same brand found at the crime scene) 2. DNA found in vagina match both of them 3. Cigarette butts found at the crime scene match both of them 4. David's IPhone was buried at their renting house. Have you ever heard all of these information before? DNA fingerprinting results are automatically saved to computer and if someone try to falsify the results, it would be easily detected. The DNA tests were completed at least 10 days before they were arrested .
This video was Totally cut short !! What happened to the two "suspects" that were send to death row..? And what about the "Anonymous" or the second Miller to found dead?
Wow thanks for letting us know where we will never travel to anymore
No way those little men did that. You can tell he is being coerced and is terrified. Not cool
One of them had his head patted by the translator(?). This is an absolute no-no in SE Asia, esp. in Thailand. The only reason they would do that is to intimidate, threaten, and silence him (so that he doesn't talk about being tortured).
terrified? b.s. watch the video again, woman. That guy Wai was NOT scared at all
I feel that the 2 accused are innocent
Of course they are
Just because they were tortured it doesn't mean they are innocent. They were in the area that night, found the guys’ phone in one of those boy's home. Btw the family agrees.
i think it's all planted..Just because they were in that area that night doesn't mean they were guilty or did the crime too
@@emilytoole1524 Just because it works on terrorists doesn't mean they aren't guilty. Do you realize how you sound? Torture never works. It's barbaric. We're supposed to be better than that. If the family agrees, they need to get some perspective. Vengeance is not justice.
@@bunnykissme I agree.
Once stayed at a hotel in Bangkok, and the staff just broke into my room in the early morning! I was half asleep and really embarrassed..he acted like if it was pure mistake but this incident and many others gave me the impression its not a safe place to travel..
it's unbelievable how these countries get away with such injustice and treatment of people, there should be some jurisdiction and protection for everyone from these corrupt individuals
Used to be on my bucket list. Now it is a no go area.
Those young men did not deserve what they got. I wish karma comes for everyone who had anything to with framing them. You have killed innocent, you are all murderes.
They definately did it. Perhaps the trial wasnt fair, but they never are.
Scorch428 Without proper trial how can u say they definitely do it? Sound like another conspiracy ! Even DNA dint match
Don't worry, you don't need to wish Karma comes for people, it will. Everything we do on this earth, we pay it right here, it goes for everybody. What goes around comes around. You can't escape that!
That one looked so small no way he taken out a tall guy
They're taking charge because of the following evidence 1. CCTV footage shows they were entering to the crime scene that night 2. CCTV footage from 7-Eleven store shows they bought cigarettes (same brand found at the crime scene) 3. DNA found in vagina match both of them 4. Cigarette butts found at the crime scene match both of them 5. David's IPhone was buried at their renting house. Have you ever heard all of these information before? DNA fingerprinting results are automatically saved to computer and if someone try to falsify the results, it would be easily detected. The DNA tests were completed at least 10 days before they were arrested.
In 2020, the death sentences of the two guys convicted in this case were commuted to life in prison by royal decree. Last year, 2021, in Kho Tao a millionaire Indian/Thai couple was found dead in the pool of an exclusive resort hours after they checked in. He was a luxury apartments and hotel owner. They drown while their son went for a walk on the beach. The pool was closed because of the Rona and there were no cameras working.
To me, this island is like a black hole! If you get near, you are likely to disappear for good!
Scary place!
Beatríz Remusat I have been to this island 17 times (!) during a time span of 20 years. I am here at Koh Tao right now. I have never seen or experienced any hostility. Crimes and killings happen everywere, it has nothing to do with Thailand or Koh Tao. I'd say my own home country (Sweden) is far more dangerous these days.
Gazpacho Suave Yes, Karlstad is fine, and inner Malmö is fine, but the outskirts 🙏🙄
hum....you apparently don't know that you can get kidnaped right in downtown Paris France, at almost anytime.
Absolutely 💯 dangerous stay away from these horrible places
If you value you life dont go there!
I would never go to an island in Thailand on a whim , I would do a lot of research . This is so sad . I pray for all the victims families . The police are covering up and getting any person to plead guilty by force . This makes me so mad and upset for the victims . Always be aware in every situation .
I would NEVER GO THERE AS WELL AS MANY OTHER PLACES. THE UNITED STATES IS ALL I NEED. PLENTY TO ENJOY HERE AND YOU EVEN HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THESE DAYS WHEREVER YOU GO. STAY ARMED AND PROTECTED ALWAYS.
@@patriciaboyd2934 Just bring the guns all the time.
@@miemiehandley9813😂😂
@@patriciaboyd2934you need to travel. You will have a more open mind.
Reminds me of how people in the Dominican Republic were poisoning tourist last year. Before I had always wanted to go there, but I wouldnt dare now. Too many other beautiful places to visit.
Do you mention about old climatization I hear that 3 person died in hotel ?! Or other accident
Woo...I couldn't believe that the victims' family believed the verdict.
Land of smiles 🤣🤣🤣 it’s the land of smoke and mirrors, some of the nicest people in the world live in Thailand, but sadly so do some of the worst.
I’ve heard never to go from the main streets (especially from a bar) directly to a side street, much less a remote area. Not blaming the victims in any way. I am very sad they didn’t receive better advice. And still sometimes, things go terribly wrong.
She was warned by family not to go. And went anyway
+Britta Olson It's pretty bad when you can't go to sleep in your own motel room, though.
Agreed but one was hung in their room and another found dead in her room, i think this country just is crappy to visit for tourists
There is nothing sadder than a mothers cry for her child.
My condolences to the families involved in this case.So 😭😭😭😭😭
ID START WITH WHO DISCOVERED THE BODIES. BLAM.
CASE OPEN.
i lived there 7 years, forget Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam are cheaper, friendlier and safer
Northern Thailand is similar to the other mentioned countries, it is southern Thailand where all this nonsense happens.
Cambodia is notorious for child trafficking and sexual abuse, they have Drs, lawyers, politicians and rich people coming there to these brothels
@laurie garber Be careful Laurie..
Stay in Europe..
None are near safe
Excellent reporting of a horrible, tragic story.
Listening to David’s mom speak, broke my heart. She seems a gentle loving woman and I am sure she is a great mum.
There are so many unanswered questions. The police are hiding so much
come on, didnt yall learn anything from "Brokedown Palace"?
I am Thai, I am frustrated and angry with the state my country is in. The Police and the gov are corrupted. A lot of beating occurs over the police interrogations. We hope the people's movement within the country will helps eliminate theses shameful act
What amazing storys about young people going to the island and never returning showing up dead in mysterious circumstances
DO NOT GO TO KOH TAO, THAILAND!! Listen to Anonymous. Listen to the families pleas.
I went to the website koh tao!
They just say it's a "heaven on earth"! A lot of young people want to go there.
I wrote a couple of alerts and links to see what we were watching! But you need to do it too! Because of Hana and David and 4 other people!
Anonymoous is not one group. Any one or any group (you and your BFF, for exmaple) can pretend to be Anonymous. Anonymous found out NO FACTS. I was waiting for the narrator to say they hacked into Thai computers and found contrary evidence, but that never happened.
I'm just going to login now
Never!
Thanks for the warning...hope a lot others will follow your advice too!
After seeing this..and I have some online friends in Thailand.. that want me to visit....... NO WAY would I ever visit that country. I have many friends in Vietnam, they also want me to visit but I think I will just stay here in the USA. I can visit these countries by surfing the net.. not worth losing my life over. We have some beautiful places right here in the US I can go to again and again
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. UNITED STATES HAS ENDLESS BEAUTY TO SEE. AND YOU CAN BE ARMED IN MOST PLACES YOU GO.
Yeah, there's definitely a serial killer on that island that is wealthy and has power to control the police force. They're just finding any "low life" poor young boys to die for them as cover ups. Those boys look way too tiny to have done all the damage. I highly doubt they did it. It's pretty unjust. I hope their souls RIP in heaven and have a better life after they reincarnate. The parents of the girl is just ... finding any person to blame so that they can call it done. I'm glad the sister is lucid
This is so tragic!!
Are you expected to show remorse for what you have not done?
Yes
I thought the same, when the brother said that. Not very smart of him. They gave in much to easily!
They were probably scared... I would be! They were once tortured. I would be careful in a Thai prison saying the wrong thing or professing innocence in a place that controls your every move.
@@sukkennedy8998 they were just going for blood. Any blood. Disgusting
@@cccpsovietunionisnothingbu2402 They knew something is off. Shame on them. Now another innocent is being punished.
Hahahahah I freaking love it! "I don't know why people doesn't believe in the evidence? Our forensic evidence equipment complies with ISO, something like that, I can't remember.". Yeah dude, that's EXACTLY why I don't believe in the evidence; because your methods don't comply with human rights, something like that, I can't remember.
:)
You’d better worrying about fake news in your country
@@forallth lol in US many were scapegoats, framed, and sentenced to life when indeed they were innocent.
@@ScribblebytesWorldwide To end like Assange?
@@jaromT 29:05
40:47 my heart broke in to pieces 😭 .
Zulema G. So sad!! I wish we could rid of all corrupt & unjust ppl in this world!!!!
Could you tell me how comes their DNA are in vagina's victim?
You're the victim of mainstream media. They're taking charge because of the following evidence 1. CCTV footage shows they were entering to the crime scene that night 2. CCTV footage from 7-Eleven store shows they bought cigarettes (same brand found at the crime scene) 2. DNA found in vagina match both of them 3. Cigarette butts found at the crime scene match both of them 4. David's IPhone was buried at their renting house. Have you ever heard all of these information before? DNA fingerprinting results are automatically saved to computer and if someone try to falsify the results, it would be easily detected. The DNA tests were completed at least 10 days before they were arrested.
The one thing that is important to remember. Stop getting drunk and using drugs and acting recklessly when you visit other countries. I'm sad by these deaths. But as the mayor said alot of the younger people act recklessly and put their lives in danger. Trust me I've seen it as a tourist to Thailand yearly.