Based in part on your recommendation, I purchased a MC1sc for $256 back in 2019. Based on the excellence of that gun, I bought a MC2c the following and found it to be even better! I just found out about the MC1sc yesterday, so thanks for the early review. I suspect I'm going wish I'd waited buying my Ruger Max-9. The Mossberg pistols are criminally underappreciated and when people do bother to review them, they just whine about how weird the disassembly is! You, at least, pointed out how easy it is to clean the striker channel. The MC2c is easily my favorite carry pistol and I can't wait to get my hands on the MC2sc! Thanks!
They're excellent guns. The price is really fair too. I'm amazed at how Glock-like they are though. I don't dislike Glocks at all and can see why they're popular... but I'm just surprised that so many companies want to copy them so perfectly. You can take a Glock apart the same way if your take-down lever isn't working or your trigger won't disengage and they even selll back plates with the same kind of button release (Strike Industries). In any case though, (for some people) it's like that made a better Glock than Glock for half the price.
@@deucedeuce1572 Just Like Palmetto did with their Dagger G19ish gun. Its amazing that US companies can do all kinds of improvements that Glock still wont do, and they can sell their guns for half the price of Glock! It kinda shows me that Glocks have always been very overpriced, in my mind, and still are. (just my opinion) I guess that is why I have never bought one and own other brands. My PSA Dagger performs just fine, and has an optics cut, for a Holosun, beveled and scalloped slide, threaded barrel, suppressor height sights, steel guide rod, and more for $350.00 in a very nice range bag, etc. This US made Mossberg MC2sc is another one to make me put Glock back, because of its pricing and lack of features.
@@PatriotPaulUSA Yeah, and I'm willing to bet that a PSA dagger costs just as much to produce as a Glock. I can't say for certain, but that would be an interesting thing to know. (Costs about $40 to produce a Glock, if you include every single cost of the entire company vs each gun produced).
I don’t understand why this gun isn’t more popular. Great engineering, cheaper than most of its competitors, and comfortable shooting. It truly is the dark horse of the micro/subcompact 9’s
Safety and Magazine release ARE reversible. Optic footprint is of the micro family such as the Shield RMSC. More information: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/new-mossberg-micro-compact-mc2sc
Appreciate the review. I bought one recently and so far I really like the feel and features. The triggerless slide removal and overall fit of the components are a nice combination. Be safe.
I saw a magazine at Walmart with the mc2sc tonight (guns and ammo I think) and went looking online, not a single other video on RUclips and not a single web result on Google. You're really ahead of the curve on this one, you're lapping every other content creator 💪
I own both. I am a big fan of these 2 guns, and also replaced the springs in both with the MCarbo Mossberg trigger spring kit, which makes the trigger pull smoother. I also placed Talon grips on them. Fantastic guns!
Thanks for the update. Looks look a really nice refresh. Would really like to see one normal pic slot instead of that pro priority rail type placement. That is a huge miss imo. One slot at the very end should accommodate an Olight or Streamlight type light/laser.
Nice review. I really like what Mossberg is doing lately especially now that they are back into handguns. CZ and Beretta missed the mark with recent releases not having the expected capacity. Optics cut is expected also now. I hope Mossberg adds optic cut or option for it on the MC1 and MC2C. I look forward to see how it runs in GB guns hands.
I bought the beretta PX4 Storm. A very excellent high quality high performance pistol. If I had a choice MOSSBERG or Beretta, I’d definitely choose the Beretta. W/O a doubt
I have the MC1sc and my only gripe is with G43 mags you can't +1 it without unseating the mag and having an empty chamber on follow up. This may just be MY gun as it was used but I have read others having similar issues. Other than that great gun, 2" groups at 10 yards despite the micro size
Optic cut on the new model , i like the way it field strip . You can always clean the firing pin , sleeve and spring. i dont see them at gunstores maybe they sell quick.
The MC1SC is one of my favorite guns to cc. Extremely underrated gun. I didn't even know the made the MC2SC until I saw this video. Double stack, 10+1 instead of 7+1? Might have to go check one out n see if it feels as good in the hand as the MC1SC does?
Looks good, Just bought a Shield plus and am in love with the grip, trigger, and recoil control. I wonder why Mossberg didn't texture the entire grip on this gun?
The mag release is reversible. It's basically the same size as the Glock 43 just holds more rounds. Glock G43 6.26 in 4.25 in 1.06 in 17.95 oz 3.39 in Mossberg MC2sc 6.25 in 4.3 in 1.1 in 19.5 oz 3.4 in
I purchased the MC2C based off you & Mrs. Teya review about that gun & I love it! Im disappointed that they did not release a optic version of the MC2C...but This might have to be added to my EDC rotation as well..
@@m.watson708 Graham commented in another post that he spoke to Mossberg and at this time they have no plans on an optic cut on the MC2c slide…seems like a missed opportunity. They already have the programming and tooling if they’re cutting the MC2sc slide…I don’t get the thought process of some of these companies.
I was looking to buy a Taurus G3C at a gun show, and asked one of the vendors about pricing, etc. on one they had. The guy said the Taurus is ok, but you need to try this Mossberg. I said "a Mossberg PISTOL???" Once I got it in my hands and he ran through the features, I quickly changed my mind and got the MC2C. Works like a charm at the range, I second everything said here!
I just got my MC2SC this past week. Aside from the holster Mossberg shows in their website (which doesn’t appear to have an optics cut), have you heard of any mfrs making IWB holsters for it?’
Can anyone answer this question for me? I see the MC2C magazine fits and there is obviously that large gap. Does the mag extension for the MC2SC 14 round mag fill that gap at all? I can't find MC2SC magazines anywhere and am starting to regret buying this pistol. Carrying with 1 mag is useless.
Even the Sig Guys didn't like the short little 10 round 365 grip. Most Sig guys I know, have gone away from the standard 10 round P365 to the 17 round P365XL to get a longer grip and a 3/4" longer slide. (To control muzzle flip and have a better grip). I could Not appendix carry that 365 with no trigger safety. To each their own though.
Very Nice, Video. I love the ingenious takedown procedure and the memory pads and the build quality looks good. I haven't seen one of these in my area stores. I am looking forward to seeing one someday. After 3yrs, I just bought my 1st micro 9mm. I ended up with the Canik Mete MC 9. Like you, I have large hands and I didn't like, most micro size handguns. With the largest backstrap and their grip design, it felt the best. I would have liked to compare it to a Mossberg MC2sc. I do like the Canik MC9 can use their standard doublestack mags. Not a 1.5 stack proprietary mag. I love my Mossberg 590S shotgun and the company, so I am sure I will try one out in the future. I do not like proprietary rails, like Sig/Glock do, especially when picatinny has been a long held standard. Don't do that Mossberg! Your pistol looks fine otherwise. Great video GB Guns!
I understand the increase capacity, but honestly, I would’ve gone for an even larger size MC3. Maybe with a 4.3 to 4.4 inch barrel? This gun is just basically a higher capacity MC1 essay with a fiber optic mount right? I only MC one SC and love it. This just seems a little redundant to me.
How easy is it to rack the slide? For instance how doe sit compare to Bersa Thunder 380 vs Walther PPQ SC? I've owned the Bersa and heard that the PPQ SC has an easier slide as well as opposed to the Stoeger STR 9MC which some have said is not good for weaker hands.
Just because Sig dropped the p365 first doesn’t mean it’s the best. There are better options that shoot flatter, faster and produce from concealment much better. Not to mention you can’t co-witness your optic and iron sights with any p365 optic cut firearm. However, kudos to Sig for their innovation and starting the train for all other to jump on.
I own both a 365 & a recently purchased Shield plus. The shield has better grip angle/texture, better trigger (by far) and much better recoil control. My 365 is now a medicine cabinet gun.
Any new holster releases for the MC2sc yet? Mossy won out over the Ruger Max 9 because of finger pinch, mag cap, and comfort in the hand. Trigger pull 5# 6.2 oz consistently. S&W Shield Plus Performance Ctr feels very similar with the Mossberg feeling equally as comfortable but ever so slightly smaller. Hardly noticeable. Moss slightly smaller and lighter for better carrying. Think I'll like very much. Want to break it in with several hundred rounds before mounting the red dot and calling it protection ready and EDC.
Researching for best in the market in price and reliability for a small back up 9 mm micro compact or subcompact double stack . Up to know still carrying my single stack Walther PPS LE. So difficult to find and like this new micro , but the capacity gets my attention. Would like to share your opinion. The Moossberg caught my attention!!
Skip the paperwork?! The worlds gone mad, and according to the weather report, hell has indeed frozen over 😳 Looking forward to the range portion, and of course What's for Dinner? Just don't forget that your viewers are curious what certain ammo smells like!
After reading this I don't really give much thought on the smell they admit. Now thinking about it some ammo smells like fireworks or roten eggs while others don't really smell like anything. Now I wanna know what the different ammo smells like too!!
@@JP-gw3bk Teya usually says it, and it's using the -nickel coated brass? during What's for Dinner. My only experience with any ammo "smelling" a certain way, is when I was testing out my new/old carry rounds a while back. For some reason the Hornady Critical Duty 135 gr +P rounds have a funky smell after they've y.
Just wanted to point out that Mossberg calls it a micro compact on their website listing for it, but it may not have been there when this video was made
Correct, I spoke to them about this before the launch and web page. The irony is it accepts MC2 magazines. They were just smart from the start about design!
Sorry stupid question time. Are the sights interchangeable with other guns? ( a vid on youtube said the front sight is with a Sig) What about the back sight? Is the firing pin safety plunger interchangeable with the Glock?
I showed in the video it's the same magazine design as the MC2. By not using plastic (like Glock) the magazine walls are thinner and thus the magazine smaller permitting a smaller grip.
@@GBGuns ahhhh 4:45 sorry I had to go back, I see now. So what M&P, GLOCK, CZ P-10, ect did by making a line of full, compact and subcompact with compatible magazines. Now I think mossberg is just playing catch up now by offering a complete pistol line or at least working on it.
Graham do you still have your Jericho Enhanced? I got one yesterday and have a serious concern with the safety. The gun is brand new, never even had a bullet in the mag. When I unboxed it I was checking the safety and noticed the safety dropping. After a few more trigger pulls the hammer actually fell. When I put the safety on I am not hearing or feeling a click. It’s like it has no detent at all. I wish you would try this with your gun and let me know the results. If there is a way I can contact you maybe I can send you a video of what I’m talking about. Thanx bro for any help.
I just checked ours, the safety click is soft, but audible. If I fidget with it and set the safety just below the detent I can get mine to do the same thing so I think you may be missing the spring or detent. I'd suggest contacting IWI.
Mossberg says it's reversible. You can also get the model without the safety if you prefer. I'm a lefty, but have learned to shoot with my right to make shooting and showing guns easier.
Mossberg MC2sc or Smith & Wesson Shield Plus to carry . I tried the Mossberg and own the MC 2 but never try the new Shield Plus . You have shoot both, your insight here will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Is it a real problem if you insert and slap that long mag into the pistol too hard? Does the same problem happen with guns like the AR-15 or any gun without rock in mags?
On firearms like the AR you have a slight chance of damaging the mag or the feed lips. With pistols like this there is a chance you'll damage the feed ips or the ejector.
I imagine it would. They fit like it's the same tube. I've never tried it though. Running overly long mags without a sleeve runs the risk of over inserting.
These are highly underrated guns! I have the MC2C and love it. Imho it’s just as good as a Sig P365XL or Glock 48 at a much lower price. I did add night sights and the M-Carbo spring kit to mine but the stock trigger ain’t bad at all. The downside is finding holsters and spare mags. I found a nice IWB from Clinger. Thanks for an informative review.
Did you have any issues getting the extractor pivet roll pin out of the Mc2c using the 1/16th punch. I have bent 2 punches on them. I have both the Mc1sc and Mc2c and cant get either of them out. Any help would be appreciated.
@@MrSteveb1 nice…thanks for the tip…I couldn’t remember what dovetail Mossberg was using. I’m guessing it’s 8/8 front/rear…does it shoot point of aim/point of impact?
Hello fans ..... if you have to pick only one between MC2c & MC2sc for daily carry in summer and back up in winter, what gun would you buy ? Can buy both!!
Graham , like always highly appreciated. Yep , I measure and compare all options to the Walther’s guns. A fan since my childhood, learn to shoot with Grandpa with the P38( still in my possession). Still carry my P99c in my rotation also. Now in the quest for a small back up. Have try them all except , the new Taurus and the Moossberg. Do like the Sig 365 XL but will not paid for any the cost of a full size 9mm. Lately the Moossberg Mc2c and Mc2sc got my attention. Now , to decide which one between this two . Mc2c is a bit big for this group.
I do like the Sig XL a lot and very comfortable for my hand. Will compare specifics with the two MC Moossberg to be sure which one gets closer. Thanks a lot ... need to decide this week.
That doesn’t make sense, the 365 xl has a cut and other similarity sized guns are equipped with them also. Why handicap an excellent defensive pistol and therefore run the risk of hurting your sales? I know you have no say in their decisions but it leaves me baffled. Thanks for listening to me griping
I don't think Mossberg wants to become a handgun company, just have some in their lineup. The good news is what they do have seem to be excellent pistols
Cutting the front of the grip shorter than the rear, so it can work with their extended mag concept, seems kinda stupid. I also don't like the yellow plastic striker thing for longevity. I think I will stay with my 365x...
Yeah, I think I like the shield a widdle better, it's just a little taller than the competitors and that let's me get my widdle pinky on it with a flush mag. It's a shame cause I like the longer barrel for confident expansion with non-sc ammo but I'll prolly wind up buying the shield plus and a threaded barrel...
@@GBGuns no just looking at the dimension specs, the handle is . 3 inches shorter, which would take my pinky to a barely on grip. Might not work out that way in practice but that's what the specs lead me to believe, combined with the fact that the shield plus is only just big enough. I did get to do some model comparisons with the mc1sc, and I'd imagine they're the same height and length
"The slide has some play" - is that good or bad? Is there a meaningful correlation between slide play and how a gun shoots? It seems like some play - which virtually all pistols have - would be better for reliability than if it were too tight.
If your side to side movement moves the barrel, which it would you would be hindering the accuracy of your gun. Compare that to a gun like the CZ75 where there is no movement side to side due to the lower receiver overlapping the slide instead of most pistols that the slide overlaps the receiver you'll see why why CZ75 is one of the most accurate pistols out there. The same could be said for guns like the Makarov, and Desert Eagle that the barrel is fixed in place.
@@GBGuns well, being lefty one of the things I'd want is the same thing I want any micro compact to have: an ambi slide release. But I'd also like to see them change up the included magazines. I thought these were compatible with MC2C mags, but that has 13 round flush and 15 round extended mags, but this takes 11 and 14 round mags. It sounds like the magazines might not be intercompatible since their page doesn't even mention being able to use them.
@@GBGuns I forgot to ask. Did you guys actually shoot it? Any chance of accidentally engaging the cross bolt safety because the support hand is pressing against it? Thanks.
@@wampastompastomp yes, our Shooting videos are labeled the gun name and "shooting impressions". I'm sure somebody might figure out how to bump the safety but we didn't have any issues. They also offer models without it.
@@GBGuns This is exactly why Glock should never have used the polymer sleeve on their magazines. The sleeve offers no advantage, and reduces capacity or makes the grip frame thicker for a comparable capacity.
@@BU1Lander Glock has been resting on their laurels since the 1980’s and it’s why they don’t have relevant competition in the market even now…it took an independent company (Shield Arms) to make the 43x or 48 something that’s even remotely desirable.
@@scotteger6271 They DO have the advantage of a massive aftermarket, though. There is a company call Vuurwapen who are making grip frames that will mate to G43/48 slides, but use Sig P365 magazines. So, while you are right, and Glock just rebuilds the same pistol they were making in the 80's smarter businesses can introduce products that can make them relevant again... or at least, parts of them, anyway.
@@BU1Lander I don’t disagree, in fact I referenced one of those aftermarket companies in my post…I’ll never argue the aftermarket support for Glock because it’s there…but when do consumers finally say enough and get tired of spending $500 on a handgun and another $500 on accessories that make it relevant? Especially when there are other companies making good products from the gate and for less money.
The safety ruins it for me. I would have to reverse it to push it off with my thumb on with my finger, though I don’t like the idea of a safety so close to the trigger even though it’s common on rifles and shotguns.
Why do these companies keep making everything in a 9mm. How about a variety, maybe .380 or .32 auto hi capacity, always a 9mm. Guess they think this is the only ammo that can stop somebody.....
We were all there at some point. You're new, don't know what to buy, someone talks you into a Glock and so you defend your purchase with all your might, not yet knowing enough, or having experienced enough to know any better. I wrote a somewhat controversial article about this a while back titled, "Why You Should and Shouldn't Glock". Glocks are a great place to learn, and will certainly teach you enough to make a more personal and better-fitting choice the next time. Or, some folks stick with Glock for reasons we may never know.
@@GBGuns I truly are a any gun person, coming from the uk , and settling in texas, I just learnt with a glock, combat shot with a glock, I have several pistols smith , Walter, etc, I just am very comfortable with the glock in my iwb hard holster. It’s never failed in 6000 rounds over ten years. I would carry wife sig too sometimes. I just always seem to default to glock, yawn.😂.
Based in part on your recommendation, I purchased a MC1sc for $256 back in 2019. Based on the excellence of that gun, I bought a MC2c the following and found it to be even better! I just found out about the MC1sc yesterday, so thanks for the early review. I suspect I'm going wish I'd waited buying my Ruger Max-9. The Mossberg pistols are criminally underappreciated and when people do bother to review them, they just whine about how weird the disassembly is! You, at least, pointed out how easy it is to clean the striker channel. The MC2c is easily my favorite carry pistol and I can't wait to get my hands on the MC2sc! Thanks!
Me too..!!!...lol
They're excellent guns. The price is really fair too. I'm amazed at how Glock-like they are though. I don't dislike Glocks at all and can see why they're popular... but I'm just surprised that so many companies want to copy them so perfectly. You can take a Glock apart the same way if your take-down lever isn't working or your trigger won't disengage and they even selll back plates with the same kind of button release (Strike Industries). In any case though, (for some people) it's like that made a better Glock than Glock for half the price.
@@deucedeuce1572 Just Like Palmetto did with their Dagger G19ish gun. Its amazing that US companies can do all kinds of improvements that Glock still wont do, and they can sell their guns for half the price of Glock! It kinda shows me that Glocks have always been very overpriced, in my mind, and still are. (just my opinion) I guess that is why I have never bought one and own other brands. My PSA Dagger performs just fine, and has an optics cut, for a Holosun, beveled and scalloped slide, threaded barrel, suppressor height sights, steel guide rod, and more for $350.00 in a very nice range bag, etc. This US made Mossberg MC2sc is another one to make me put Glock back, because of its pricing and lack of features.
@@PatriotPaulUSA Yeah, and I'm willing to bet that a PSA dagger costs just as much to produce as a Glock. I can't say for certain, but that would be an interesting thing to know. (Costs about $40 to produce a Glock, if you include every single cost of the entire company vs each gun produced).
I don’t understand why this gun isn’t more popular. Great engineering, cheaper than most of its competitors, and comfortable shooting. It truly is the dark horse of the micro/subcompact 9’s
I love your table top reviews and whats for dinner videos. All facts no fluff. Very informative. Keep up the good work.
Safety and Magazine release ARE reversible. Optic footprint is of the micro family such as the Shield RMSC. More information: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/new-mossberg-micro-compact-mc2sc
So it should be able to support RMRcc?
I believe so
Appreciate the review. I bought one recently and so far I really like the feel and features. The triggerless slide removal and overall fit of the components are a nice combination.
Be safe.
I saw a magazine at Walmart with the mc2sc tonight (guns and ammo I think) and went looking online, not a single other video on RUclips and not a single web result on Google. You're really ahead of the curve on this one, you're lapping every other content creator 💪
They bumped the announcement date, I'm sure we'll see more soon, though not many covered the first two pistols either.
This will be my next gun. VERY NICE! Thanks for the great review!
I can't wait until we get this at the store I work at.This lines right up with the shield plus and compare them when I offer customer suggestions
Great gun and a great reset. Underrated firearm!!
I love my MC1! I bought an MC2SC today! Can’t wait to shoot it!
I have the mc2 love it. Can’t wait to get this one
mc2c runs like a beast, not one malfunction. I have 2 of them.... great weapon.
Nice, I own the mc1 and it's been great, really looking forward to this one. Thank you for the preview.👍
Are you going to make a holster for this one? I'm patiently waiting on a holster for MC2C!
@@m.watson708 As soon as I get my hands on one, for sure. I'm liking the looks and features of this model.
Love my mc2c, gotta get this one now!!
WAY TO GO MOSSBERG!! A very nice trifecta of pistols.
Thanks GB. Great job. Good info.
If the MC2sc is anything like the MC2c it's a winner!
I own both. I am a big fan of these 2 guns, and also replaced the springs in both with the MCarbo Mossberg trigger spring kit, which makes the trigger pull smoother. I also placed Talon grips on them. Fantastic guns!
Excellent video as always 😁. We're definitely interested in purchasing one with the safety.
God bless 🙏👌
Thanks for the update. Looks look a really nice refresh. Would really like to see one normal pic slot instead of that pro priority rail type placement. That is a huge miss imo. One slot at the very end should accommodate an Olight or Streamlight type light/laser.
I wonder if the Surefire XSC made for the P365 would work on this? Since that light grips the Sig proprietary rail without a rail slot.
Excellent review !
I have the mc1sc and mc2c love both
That "slide wobble" demonstration always cracks me up! 😂
Would like to see your comparison of the MC2SC to the new Canik METE MC9.
Those are pretty awesome, haven't had the opportunity to test one out yet!
They just came out today. If you've shot the other Mossbergs you know this won't disappoint.
Wish they come with larger mags for the mc1sc.. great pistol and very underrated imo. Great review
Nice review. I really like what Mossberg is doing lately especially now that they are back into handguns. CZ and Beretta missed the mark with recent releases not having the expected capacity. Optics cut is expected also now. I hope Mossberg adds optic cut or option for it on the MC1 and MC2C. I look forward to see how it runs in GB guns hands.
I'm really disappointed in CZ for that, honestly. I really would have considered one if they had the capacity.
I think Mossberg should hop the fence away from sub-compacts and make a 1911. That might actually be pretty awesome!
@@119fatty cz dropped a real winner with the Rami discontinued instead of upgraded.
Savage also missed the mark completely with their new release, the Stance
I bought the beretta PX4 Storm. A very excellent high quality high performance pistol. If I had a choice MOSSBERG or Beretta, I’d definitely choose the Beretta. W/O a doubt
Nice, I'm looking forward to the "What's for dinner" on this.
Me too!!!
Me three.!!..lol
Thank you, Sir
I summer carry the mc2c cut for the 507k, it shoots great.
I have the MC1sc and my only gripe is with G43 mags you can't +1 it without unseating the mag and having an empty chamber on follow up. This may just be MY gun as it was used but I have read others having similar issues. Other than that great gun, 2" groups at 10 yards despite the micro size
I have a Ruger Max 9 and it’s ok but I like some things about this…most notably the mag compatibility with the larger MC2c
Optic cut on the new model , i like the way it field strip . You can always clean the firing pin , sleeve and spring. i dont see them at gunstores maybe they sell quick.
They just became public today.
Thanks
Just ordered mine!
Let us know how you like it once ypu have it
The MC1SC is one of my favorite guns to cc. Extremely underrated gun. I didn't even know the made the MC2SC until I saw this video. Double stack, 10+1 instead of 7+1? Might have to go check one out n see if it feels as good in the hand as the MC1SC does?
Easy-to-shoot is because of flat sides. I think it was Rex Applegate that promoted this type grip.
The email I received from Mossberg promoting the new handgun said the new "micro compact" double stack
i like it!
Looks good, Just bought a Shield plus and am in love with the grip, trigger, and recoil control. I wonder why Mossberg didn't texture the entire grip on this gun?
I don't think it's needed. These shoot pretty nicely
Can you reverse the cross bolt safety so you can use your thumb to disengage it?
The mag release is reversible.
It's basically the same size as the Glock 43 just holds more rounds.
Glock G43
6.26 in
4.25 in
1.06 in
17.95 oz
3.39 in
Mossberg MC2sc
6.25 in
4.3 in
1.1 in
19.5 oz
3.4 in
I purchased the MC2C based off you & Mrs. Teya review about that gun & I love it! Im disappointed that they did not release a optic version of the MC2C...but This might have to be added to my EDC rotation as well..
What do you use as a holster for the MC2C?
@@GBGuns I had one made for it at my local gun club for $50
Since this is optics ready maybe they will release an optics ready MC2c after the new year…like at Shot Show
@@scotteger6271 I sure hope so because I don't like shooting anything less than a 4' barrel
@@m.watson708 Graham commented in another post that he spoke to Mossberg and at this time they have no plans on an optic cut on the MC2c slide…seems like a missed opportunity. They already have the programming and tooling if they’re cutting the MC2sc slide…I don’t get the thought process of some of these companies.
The disclaimer makes me laugh and cry.
Sometimes they get it, sometimes they don't. I fight for EVERY video.
@@GBGuns It's comforting to know that all our work is in the soft, doughy hands of unformed humanoids.
Failed to point out witness holes on the left side of the mags. That's a change. You dinged the MC2C for right side witness.
Would love to see this compared to the new Masada Slim variant!
I was looking to buy a Taurus G3C at a gun show, and asked one of the vendors about pricing, etc. on one they had. The guy said the Taurus is ok, but you need to try this Mossberg. I said "a Mossberg PISTOL???" Once I got it in my hands and he ran through the features, I quickly changed my mind and got the MC2C. Works like a charm at the range, I second everything said here!
They're great pistols!
I just got my MC2SC this past week. Aside from the holster Mossberg shows in their website (which doesn’t appear to have an optics cut), have you heard of any mfrs making IWB holsters for it?’
Can anyone answer this question for me? I see the MC2C magazine fits and there is obviously that large gap. Does the mag extension for the MC2SC 14 round mag fill that gap at all? I can't find MC2SC magazines anywhere and am starting to regret buying this pistol. Carrying with 1 mag is useless.
Even the Sig Guys didn't like the short little 10 round 365 grip. Most Sig guys I know, have gone away from the standard 10 round P365 to the 17 round P365XL to get a longer grip and a 3/4" longer slide. (To control muzzle flip and have a better grip). I could Not appendix carry that 365 with no trigger safety. To each their own though.
Have you ever used the Mossberg mc2sc as a CCW pistol ? If so was it comfortable to carry ?
Thanks again for sharing your videos 🙏
Very Nice, Video. I love the ingenious takedown procedure and the memory pads and the build quality looks good. I haven't seen one of these in my area stores. I am looking forward to seeing one someday. After 3yrs, I just bought my 1st micro 9mm. I ended up with the Canik Mete MC 9. Like you, I have large hands and I didn't like, most micro size handguns. With the largest backstrap and their grip design, it felt the best. I would have liked to compare it to a Mossberg MC2sc. I do like the Canik MC9 can use their standard doublestack mags. Not a 1.5 stack proprietary mag. I love my Mossberg 590S shotgun and the company, so I am sure I will try one out in the future. I do not like proprietary rails, like Sig/Glock do, especially when picatinny has been a long held standard. Don't do that Mossberg! Your pistol looks fine otherwise. Great video GB Guns!
I have never seen these mossberg pistols available in my area.
Always wondered why pistols didn't have that style safety. I like it !
I understand the increase capacity, but honestly, I would’ve gone for an even larger size MC3. Maybe with a 4.3 to 4.4 inch barrel? This gun is just basically a higher capacity MC1 essay with a fiber optic mount right? I only MC one SC and love it. This just seems a little redundant to me.
How easy is it to rack the slide? For instance how doe sit compare to Bersa Thunder 380 vs Walther PPQ SC? I've owned the Bersa and heard that the PPQ SC has an easier slide as well as opposed to the Stoeger STR 9MC which some have said is not good for weaker hands.
Since you own both, could you confirm if the MC2C slide will fit on the MC2SC? I've been dying to know!
the 365xl and 365x won the Micro compact race as far as I'm concerned. The shield+ is a close second but hopefully the innovation will keep on coming.
I like the XL for its realistic barrel length, but there are options now that are more shootable than the originals.
P365 shoots like 💩
Just because Sig dropped the p365 first doesn’t mean it’s the best. There are better options that shoot flatter, faster and produce from concealment much better. Not to mention you can’t co-witness your optic and iron sights with any p365 optic cut firearm. However, kudos to Sig for their innovation and starting the train for all other to jump on.
I own both a 365 & a recently purchased Shield plus. The shield has better grip angle/texture, better trigger (by far) and much better recoil control. My 365 is now a medicine cabinet gun.
Is the slide on this pistol as difficult to manipulate as the Hellcat, or is it almost as easy as the Sig P365 pistols?
They remind me or the SR series Rugers
Any new holster releases for the MC2sc yet? Mossy won out over the Ruger Max 9 because of finger pinch, mag cap, and comfort in the hand. Trigger pull 5# 6.2 oz consistently. S&W Shield Plus Performance Ctr feels very similar with the Mossberg feeling equally as comfortable but ever so slightly smaller. Hardly noticeable. Moss slightly smaller and lighter for better carrying. Think I'll like very much. Want to break it in with several hundred rounds before mounting the red dot and calling it protection ready and EDC.
You made the right choice, this is a much better gun than the others. As far as holsters, if you're good with leather most Shield holsters should fit.
would the 14 rnder work on the big brother w/o the sleeve??
Researching for best in the market in price and reliability for a small back up 9 mm micro compact or subcompact double stack . Up to know still carrying my single stack Walther PPS LE. So difficult to find and like this new micro , but the capacity gets my attention. Would like to share your opinion. The Moossberg caught my attention!!
It's tough coming from a Walther. You won't find a micro with the same ergonomics or trigger, but the Mossberg is impressively good.
Skip the paperwork?! The worlds gone mad, and according to the weather report, hell has indeed frozen over 😳
Looking forward to the range portion, and of course What's for Dinner? Just don't forget that your viewers are curious what certain ammo smells like!
After reading this I don't really give much thought on the smell they admit. Now thinking about it some ammo smells like fireworks or roten eggs while others don't really smell like anything. Now I wanna know what the different ammo smells like too!!
@@JP-gw3bk Teya usually says it, and it's using the -nickel coated brass? during What's for Dinner. My only experience with any ammo "smelling" a certain way, is when I was testing out my new/old carry rounds a while back. For some reason the Hornady Critical Duty 135 gr +P rounds have a funky smell after they've y.
Can you use mc2sc magazines in the mc1sc?
Just wanted to point out that Mossberg calls it a micro compact on their website listing for it, but it may not have been there when this video was made
Correct, I spoke to them about this before the launch and web page. The irony is it accepts MC2 magazines. They were just smart from the start about design!
What holsters will the MC2SC fit? Will they also fit G43 holsters like the MC1?
That would be my guess, the slides are practically identical.
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Sorry stupid question time. Are the sights interchangeable with other guns? ( a vid on youtube said the front sight is with a Sig) What about the back sight? Is the firing pin safety plunger interchangeable with the Glock?
I don't know.
@@GBGuns OK thanks, can't wait for your shooting review. Keep up the good work.
The first gen took glock mags and was based off of the g43. these new mags look similar to the new shield plus?
I showed in the video it's the same magazine design as the MC2. By not using plastic (like Glock) the magazine walls are thinner and thus the magazine smaller permitting a smaller grip.
@@GBGuns ahhhh 4:45 sorry I had to go back, I see now. So what M&P, GLOCK, CZ P-10, ect did by making a line of full, compact and subcompact with compatible magazines. Now I think mossberg is just playing catch up now by offering a complete pistol line or at least working on it.
Graham do you still have your Jericho Enhanced? I got one yesterday and have a serious concern with the safety. The gun is brand new, never even had a bullet in the mag. When I unboxed it I was checking the safety and noticed the safety dropping. After a few more trigger pulls the hammer actually fell. When I put the safety on I am not hearing or feeling a click. It’s like it has no detent at all. I wish you would try this with your gun and let me know the results. If there is a way I can contact you maybe I can send you a video of what I’m talking about. Thanx bro for any help.
I just checked ours, the safety click is soft, but audible. If I fidget with it and set the safety just below the detent I can get mine to do the same thing so I think you may be missing the spring or detent. I'd suggest contacting IWI.
@@GBGuns Thank you sir. I will call them first thing in the morning
Wonder how the safety works with left handed shooter. Really like this addition.
Mossberg says it's reversible. You can also get the model without the safety if you prefer. I'm a lefty, but have learned to shoot with my right to make shooting and showing guns easier.
@@GBGuns that is awesome. Will need to go hold it at my local shop. Thanks!
Mossberg MC2sc or Smith & Wesson Shield Plus to carry . I tried the Mossberg and own the MC 2 but never try the new Shield Plus . You have shoot both, your insight here will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I haventshot the shield plus
@@GBGuns Here the same ... just trying to here from someone with the experience. Just want to confirm the trigger improvement!!
Is it a real problem if you insert and slap that long mag into the pistol too hard? Does the same problem happen with guns like the AR-15 or any gun without rock in mags?
On firearms like the AR you have a slight chance of damaging the mag or the feed lips. With pistols like this there is a chance you'll damage the feed ips or the ejector.
Does the MC2SC 14 round magazine fit flush in the MC2C without the sleeve on it?
I imagine it would. They fit like it's the same tube. I've never tried it though. Running overly long mags without a sleeve runs the risk of over inserting.
@@GBGuns Thanks, let me know if you ever try it out
Is this available in California ?
These are highly underrated guns! I have the MC2C and love it. Imho it’s just as good as a Sig P365XL or Glock 48 at a much lower price. I did add night sights and the M-Carbo spring kit to mine but the stock trigger ain’t bad at all. The downside is finding holsters and spare mags. I found a nice IWB from Clinger. Thanks for an informative review.
Did you have any issues getting the extractor pivet roll pin out of the Mc2c using the 1/16th punch. I have bent 2 punches on them. I have both the Mc1sc and Mc2c and cant get either of them out. Any help would be appreciated.
@@justinkruse2579 I didn’t. Yours must be especially tight. Maybe take it to a gunsmith? Good luck.
Which brand night sights are you using?
@@scotteger6271 Ameriglo Hackathorn Sig #8
@@MrSteveb1 nice…thanks for the tip…I couldn’t remember what dovetail Mossberg was using. I’m guessing it’s 8/8 front/rear…does it shoot point of aim/point of impact?
When is the 2sc due out for public purchase?
Today :)
Wow! Mossberg doesn't even have this on their website, yet. I love my MC1sc, and have been looking for the MC2c, but may skip it for this.
They have a page for it,specs will be out on the 25th on their site and GBGUNSDEPOT.COM
Mossberg now added this to their website (and removed the web pages on the MC1sc).
Hello fans ..... if you have to pick only one between MC2c & MC2sc for daily carry in summer and back up in winter, what gun would you buy ? Can buy both!!
Graham , like always highly appreciated. Yep , I measure and compare all options to the Walther’s guns. A fan since my childhood, learn to shoot with Grandpa with the P38( still in my possession). Still carry my P99c in my rotation also. Now in the quest for a small back up. Have try them all except , the new Taurus and the Moossberg. Do like the Sig 365 XL but will not paid for any the cost of a full size 9mm.
Lately the Moossberg Mc2c and Mc2sc got my attention. Now , to decide which one between this two . Mc2c is a bit big for this group.
I like the 365XL for the muzzle velocity but I understand your point about price
I do like the Sig XL a lot and very comfortable for my hand. Will compare specifics with the two MC Moossberg to be sure which one gets closer. Thanks a lot ... need to decide this week.
Do you know if the mc 2c is now incorporating the optics cut in its slide like sc?
I do not know, but will pass that on to Mossberg
Thank you
The word is there are no plans for an optics cut on the MC2C at this time.
That doesn’t make sense, the 365 xl has a cut and other similarity sized guns are equipped with them also. Why handicap an excellent defensive pistol and therefore run the risk of hurting your sales? I know you have no say in their decisions but it leaves me baffled. Thanks for listening to me griping
I don't think Mossberg wants to become a handgun company, just have some in their lineup. The good news is what they do have seem to be excellent pistols
Cutting the front of the grip shorter than the rear, so it can work with their extended mag concept, seems kinda stupid. I also don't like the yellow plastic striker thing for longevity. I think I will stay with my 365x...
Striker channel liners (the yellow plastic) have been used in striker fired guns for decades. Just look at a Glock.
Can you do a comparison with the shield plus?
No, we don't have a shield plus, but the dimensions are available.
Yeah, I think I like the shield a widdle better, it's just a little taller than the competitors and that let's me get my widdle pinky on it with a flush mag.
It's a shame cause I like the longer barrel for confident expansion with non-sc ammo but I'll prolly wind up buying the shield plus and a threaded barrel...
@@RemingtinArms So you've already tried the MC2SC?
@@GBGuns no just looking at the dimension specs, the handle is . 3 inches shorter, which would take my pinky to a barely on grip.
Might not work out that way in practice but that's what the specs lead me to believe, combined with the fact that the shield plus is only just big enough.
I did get to do some model comparisons with the mc1sc, and I'd imagine they're the same height and length
"The slide has some play" - is that good or bad? Is there a meaningful correlation between slide play and how a gun shoots? It seems like some play - which virtually all pistols have - would be better for reliability than if it were too tight.
If your side to side movement moves the barrel, which it would you would be hindering the accuracy of your gun. Compare that to a gun like the CZ75 where there is no movement side to side due to the lower receiver overlapping the slide instead of most pistols that the slide overlaps the receiver you'll see why why CZ75 is one of the most accurate pistols out there. The same could be said for guns like the Makarov, and Desert Eagle that the barrel is fixed in place.
I want a safety but not that one. I would rather have a thumb safety. That safety is a deal killer
So very, very close to being ideal.
What would you change?
@@GBGuns well, being lefty one of the things I'd want is the same thing I want any micro compact to have: an ambi slide release. But I'd also like to see them change up the included magazines. I thought these were compatible with MC2C mags, but that has 13 round flush and 15 round extended mags, but this takes 11 and 14 round mags. It sounds like the magazines might not be intercompatible since their page doesn't even mention being able to use them.
We demonstrate the facts in the video
is the safety easy to disengage?
That depends on your hand size and dexterity. The button has an appropriate weight to it, but is a little crampt for my large hands
@@GBGuns I forgot to ask. Did you guys actually shoot it? Any chance of accidentally engaging the cross bolt safety because the support hand is pressing against it? Thanks.
@@wampastompastomp yes, our Shooting videos are labeled the gun name and "shooting impressions". I'm sure somebody might figure out how to bump the safety but we didn't have any issues. They also offer models without it.
@@GBGuns thank you sir!
It's odd. It doesn't really look any different than the MC1c... But has 3 or 4 more rounds.
Guess that's never a bad thing.
An advantage of steel mags over plastic. Thinner walls needed to steel, so a small magazine = thinner grip required to hold the magazine.
@@GBGuns This is exactly why Glock should never have used the polymer sleeve on their magazines. The sleeve offers no advantage, and reduces capacity or makes the grip frame thicker for a comparable capacity.
@@BU1Lander Glock has been resting on their laurels since the 1980’s and it’s why they don’t have relevant competition in the market even now…it took an independent company (Shield Arms) to make the 43x or 48 something that’s even remotely desirable.
@@scotteger6271 They DO have the advantage of a massive aftermarket, though. There is a company call Vuurwapen who are making grip frames that will mate to G43/48 slides, but use Sig P365 magazines. So, while you are right, and Glock just rebuilds the same pistol they were making in the 80's smarter businesses can introduce products that can make them relevant again... or at least, parts of them, anyway.
@@BU1Lander I don’t disagree, in fact I referenced one of those aftermarket companies in my post…I’ll never argue the aftermarket support for Glock because it’s there…but when do consumers finally say enough and get tired of spending $500 on a handgun and another $500 on accessories that make it relevant? Especially when there are other companies making good products from the gate and for less money.
Perfect autoBUG. BACKING UP Glock.
The safety ruins it for me. I would have to reverse it to push it off with my thumb on with my finger, though I don’t like the idea of a safety so close to the trigger even though it’s common on rifles and shotguns.
They're available without the seafety
@@GBGuns Thank you, that’s good to know. 😀
I DO NOT LIKE THIN GRIPS.
I like 1.2 “ grips at least
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Why do these companies keep making everything in a 9mm. How about a variety, maybe .380 or .32 auto hi capacity, always a 9mm. Guess they think this is the only ammo that can stop somebody.....
No, but it is the world's most popular handgun cartridge so it's a good place to start.
This gun is weird af.
Glock , or go home.
You sound like fun 😂
We were all there at some point. You're new, don't know what to buy, someone talks you into a Glock and so you defend your purchase with all your might, not yet knowing enough, or having experienced enough to know any better. I wrote a somewhat controversial article about this a while back titled, "Why You Should and Shouldn't Glock". Glocks are a great place to learn, and will certainly teach you enough to make a more personal and better-fitting choice the next time. Or, some folks stick with Glock for reasons we may never know.
Cz gang.
Oh snap, offended a Glock fanboy.
@@GBGuns I truly are a any gun person, coming from the uk , and settling in texas, I just learnt with a glock, combat shot with a glock, I have several pistols smith , Walter, etc, I just am very comfortable with the glock in my iwb hard holster. It’s never failed in 6000 rounds over ten years. I would carry wife sig too sometimes. I just always seem to default to glock, yawn.😂.
Nice review 👍.
Any suggestions for AIWB holsters with a claw for this model?
I'd suggest looking at holsters meant to field the Shield. If you go with plastic you may have to heat and adjust.