@@jamesdwright we're both Pakistani :) but we share some things with Indians. Some cultural, some linguistic, some mannerisms. After all Pakistan was a part of India before it gained independence in 1947
:) I can't complain. I am so fortunate to be able to do enjoy this hobby the way i do. I know the desires and dreams people have, I've had them to, for years, but to be able to fulfill them is fortunate. Fate plays a part in this too so I am grateful for everything.
Love that HiFi set up, those 804 D2 speakers are gorgeous. Awesome component system. Awesome home theater setup. Love the choice of speakers. Please thank Saad for giving us viewers a look at his systems. Have a great day.
Thomas, I can tell just by watching your vids what a good guy you are, but some people unfortunately need to heed the old saying, “if ya don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything”. I personally find all of your videos great, partly in due to the fact that I can tell the kindness behind them and your passion for HiFi seems never ending. Thank you, Thomas.
Nick Pantazi totally agree, but some ppl are just A-holes and or haters and jelly (jealous). Me personally I could never afford any of the higher end stuff, but I have my used Klipsch stuff, that I always keep my eyes open for, that I’m happy with. I just love car and home audio and I love seeing other people’s setups. Never know when u see an idea u never thought of...✌🏻😁👍🏻
I loved the viewers showcase. All rooms have limitations we may not be able to see. My Focals are quite far apart, but sound better than any other arrangement for my room.
@@cyberathlete Your welcome and thank you for taking the time to share your system. You own great gear and have a nice living area too. I own Bowers & Wilkins speakers too, the 606 bookshelves. I have them paired to a Yamaha A-S801 amplifier. I love it. If I had more money I would buy components/speakers like yours but I am very happy with what I have. Life is short and one must appreciate what one has.
@@Miguel8131981 absolutely. Those are fantastic bookshelves. If you can add a subwoofer with them you'll have a complete speaker. The b&w sound signature is in their 600 series as well. I'm very familiar with them and actually that is one of their best received line they made.
Nicely done! I use a sub stand and I love the way it affects the sound, tighter in my house. Thomas, I dont know why people on the internet are so mean. You are doing a nice thing and the people sending in their equipment are being super nice to put out it out there.
Mr do is somewhat right, though I think showing what you have is an integral part of any hobby culture, it really wouldn't be a culture without it. But correlating 'critique' = 'mean' is pretty cowardly (and erroneous) in my mind, in that its a very convenient way to negate what they are saying. Not that what they were saying about some strangers hifi system is the peak of philosophical debate.
The isolation feet are really gaining in popularity these days, the video reinforces the benefits of it well. Got to say you got three excellent systems that cater well to their respective environments. Kudos !
Thomas, the ironic thing about the negative comments, is that they are more of a reflection of the person making the comments then the topic they are speaking to. Not to mention a direct product our heavy indoctrination through public education (Democracy/ Gang rule)...that weak minds fall prey/victim to. Thanks for the awesome videos from your great friends Thomas.
Nice straw man. People can make criticism of thing and have it also be valid, many of those existed in that sopra video. Crying about how its "mean" doesn't change that.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 Really, isn't that exactly what you just did "straw man"? I thought I was just making an obvious general statement as to the human condition via our social/cultural/educational/political indoctrination systems...? I didn't watch said video, or make any assumptions or augments, not to mention personal attacks or try to invalidate anyone's arguments for that matter. Plus I never cried about anything or said that anyone was mean even? Did you read my post or comment on the wrong post? Notice, the first word it Thomas?
@Mr Do Psychology...the profession with 3% cure rate; they deserve the respect and accolades of a criminal...sign me up for some shock therapy and a straight jacket with a side of lobotomy, Mr. Sigmund Freud?
Thank you for addressing the bad comments on Justin's video! Why do people have to be mean? If you don't have anything good to say, keep quiet. Great channel. Keep it up.
I have sympathy for you guys that go through the effort and post videos. Never mind the hateful trolls. They exist to incite anger. Give them no daylight. Your efforts are appreciated.
Loved the video! Ofcourse it's not perfect, but where's the fun in that? This was wholesome and I enjoyed every second of it! Glad to see someone is enjoying their gear!
Mad respect for Rotel! Used to have the RMB1095 and once I tested it, with the backyard door open I could hear the sound all the way to the stop sign! I love your system.
Thomas, love your system tours. I would never criticise another man’s sound system, nor would I expect him to criticise mine. I built my system to suit my listening preference with in the constraints of my budget and listening environment as do I suspect most enthusiasts, not to appease others. Neither would I criticise the car a person chooses to drive. It is interesting and educational to see the various combinations of systems people arrive at. I’m in the process of seriously upgrading my current set up and look to everywhere and anywhere for ideas. Keep up the good work Thomas.
Exactly. I do have a budget and then try to build the best that I can that caters to my preferences within that budget. Sky is the limit in this hobby. However I also try to advise people in system selection as I've learned a lot from my researches and experiences.
cyberathlete that’s exactly why I watch channels like this. I’ve been an enthusiast since the eighties. Made a lot of mistakes and bad decisions and learned a lot through experience and I’m still learning, still on that journey, but the goalposts keep moving. Then, there’s the the wife factor! ‘You’re not putting them in our living room. Theyte too big, too ugly and will dominate my space’! Etc.
Unfortunately, there is a lot of snobbery in this industry! I don’t care for snobs, it’s unnecessary! I’m an I’m an enthusiast, I’ve built my component system over many, many years. A friend of mine has a tiny studio flat. She has an inexpensive, all in one, Pioneer system and do you know hat? It sounds lovely. I have a little desktop Bose active system at work. I love it!
Thomas thank you so much for sharing! I am having so much fun watching this video and also interacting with the community. Please post your questions or comments. I'll answer as many as I can.
@cyberathlete Hi Saad, awesome setups! Was wondering what your opinion was on the Rotel RB1582 as I'm considering picking one up to pair with my B&W 606. Have you tried other amplifiers such as the Parasound A23+ or Marantz MM7025? If so, how would you compare them to the 1582? Thanks!
Thank you! I tried to find a simple solution and keep it practical. The Peachtree checked off everything. Plus it's a nice looking unit as well which has a higher WAF than your typical HiFi receiver design. Here's a POV picture for the setting. The Peachtree has been moved below and a TV now takes the top of the dresser. i.imgur.com/UzApZtE.jpg
If I was on the ground floor (where I also have a system), i have no need for the isolation pads. I have subs and large floorstanders that can output a lot of bass but they bass energy is not lost in the floor. As I am on the second floor with hardwood, the floor picked up some bass energy as the sub is downward firing. By adding isolation pads it helped a lot. So isolation pads are a case by case basis, for some there will be immediate and perceivable difference and they will be believers of it, for others they may not notice much and dismiss them as another snake oil product. I am one of the most skeptical people and I honestly don't like a lot about the audiophile BS that goes around, but in my situation these pads helped out.
Thomas, to heck with the negative comments, regardless of dated couches or less than optimal speaker placement, both Saad's and Paul's videos are excellent. I learned from both of them, especially Paul's room treatment approaches and Saad's use of the Isoacoustics Aperta 200's. Personally I'd take a fine playback system (like Paul's) over furniture ANY day of the week - Thank you to Saad & Paul for so graciously sharing their systems with us. Please keep these types of vids coming.
Thank you. I think part of the reason I did this was to prove that you can have a solid and absolutely audiophile certified system for less. You don't need to spend a lot up get phenomenal sound. The most expensive system I have was definitely a splurge and to fulfill my dream of owning it. But I was always 100% happy with every system before it.
That's the cherry red finish. Thank you! I picked these up brand new on clearance for $950 each. The reason they're different colors is that I could only get my hand on one black as that color sold out fast, and then I had to get another and the cherry red was the other option. The mismatch does not bother me least bit.
Making it real, Thomas...I've been really enjoying your insights into hifi...more insights than reviews, as you like to put it...I'm a subscriber now, lol!
Great setup. The B&W Diamond series are very very good. Got some 702 S2 CM10's and they are brilliant. Cannot wait to upgrade. Yes, they are very revealing and that is what makes the definition of what you listen to so good or bad based on the standard of recording. Thankfully, wifey also likes my setup so I am lucky.
This video really puts a smile on my face. These systems are amazing. He owns half of what I own lol. I have the rotel 1582 mkii, the lsim707s, and 703s, but i have 2 svs sb4000s instead of the martin Logan's. But I do own a pair of Martina Logan ESLs. Great video thomas. LOVE IT!!! Okay, maybe not half. But some of what I have. 😁
@@cyberathlete lol, they definately can shake the house. I have a bad case of the audio bug to say the least. Hope to own a pair of focal sopra 3s one day. It's my attempted end game plan!!
Those a older model B&W, but all the diamond series are very nice. The 800 is my fave, but I like all the diamonds. The bookshelf models are amazing. Love the detail in B&W. Cool system.
Good stuff. I always say, two systems are better than one and often cheaper than trying to build one super high-end one which would still have it's strengths and weaknesses.
Thanks Kerry! I have a friend who has been on my case about why I spent so much on different systems and not pool all the money into one kick ass system and then skimp on other setups. I told him that then I would really only have one enjoyable system and everything else would just be ok. Whereas now I am content and happy with every setup. rather be ecstattic about one setup, and be ok with the rest, I prefer to be content with all. There is one more setup Thomas did not show in this video :) He is saving that for the next video.
And yes even with the more expensive system there are no perfect systems so you will have to get something else that does those things well that your first system doesn't. It's always a trade-off. You just have to know what you want then go with the system that checks on all the things important to you
You have got to stop letting it be known how much the negative comments are affecting you and the system's owners. That just adds fuel to the fire for the trolls. You have to ignore them, as difficult as that is. Audiophiles tend to be a bit more mature and intelligent than regular YT trolls, so it is a little surprising and disappointing they are so prevalent here. Lovely systems btw. Very tasteful... thanks for sharing
He did the right thing because it sucks to share your setup only to see negative comments from most folks. I don't mind it if people flame my choice of pre-amp and amp and lack of room treatments etc but I don't care. But it' s not going to feed the trolls because when it's been said not to post negative comments, the community then jumps in as well to defend this stance. And I welcome opinions and suggestions to any of my current setups. I will work on cable management downstairs soon.
Glad to see someone else with multiple systems in the house. Also those isolation feet are a necessity in many situations and I'm always surprised hardly anyone have them. And the people who have these RUclips channels rarely mention them!
Those isolation feet are quite expensive. Not everyone can afford them or it would be better to spend that money on another part of the system that makes a bigger difference.
@@raydm4015 agreed, some isolation feet are incredibly expensive, but this guy was using some relatively inexpensive isolation feet from what looked like a silicone based rubber-like substance that doesn't mark the floors. I also use these under my components. Truly inexpensive and sonically worthwhile. Great isolators. As a side note I have nothing like the Gaia's. I would rather put that sort of crazy money towards new components.
I will be posting a video on my channel elaborating more on my living room setup and all the links to all the accessories, cables, isolation feet in my video description. You can absolutely go the inexpensive route and get the same results.
@@raydm4015 You can actually get inexpensive ones and they will do the same thing. Promise! I will post a video on my channel soon! in the next 2-3 days and will talk in great detail with links to everything you can buy for less and get amazing results.
As someone who very recently acquired a set of Polk L800's, an L400 and L200's, I can relate to your feelings about your LSIM's. WONDERFUL speakers. The L800's are SO bass-capable that I'm feeling I don't "need" my JL Audio Fathom 212 sub...but I'm keeping it anyway lol ! As for the 804 Diamonds, I could never get mine to play warm enough so I unloaded 'em.
Thank you! Yes the 804 D2 are used for particular genres and artists and recordings.. If they could be warmer and less trebly they would've been perfect but alas that journey continues. I still think they rock for so much music I can't fault them for how they are. I will be posting a more detailed video on my channel about my living room setup and also share a playlist on Amazon HD where every track sounds stunning on these. And Polk Audio doesn't get enough credit but their LSiM and now the Legend, lines are something else. I haven't heard the Legend yet but will definitely want to check them out at Axpona whenever that happens this year
What this guy did in the living room with the inside and outside walls of his b&W, more people need to do. It makes the sound much more natural and bass rich. I also mention this in one of my videos. When you do not have this tiny detail in place, the sound just gets pumped in the room and creates bass suckout effect, HIFI shows can learn from this!
The furniture you have on the inside of your speakers isolate the sound waves so your middle range/treble/bass have to work a lot less. It creates the illusion that the speaker is really bigger and better, whereas if you have a relatively small speaker in a big room, typically what happens is that the speaker sounds more bright/harsh/hifi/less integrated and natural. Same with the subs or whatever they are outside the speakers. That is also why a lot of demo rooms at stores and shows are so cold and HIFI, it's small things like this and your carpet and furniture that can make most equipment sound pretty good. If you have audio note and vandersteen and some few other brands, it is even more crucial that this is done, or else it totally destroys the sound. Also having stuff like wooden chairs in a room gives the sound wave the proper lag for it to sound more natural.
@@RealHIFIHelp I ended up unintentionally setting it up the way it is but you're right. The boundaries on 3 sides of the tower speakers act as a sort of an enclosed space which especially help with the bass response. The speakers do fill up the room without sounding lean or small. They have a very robust sound. Extremely robust. Thank you! This was a great observation and now this setting I will keep in mind for future setups especially when it comes to smaller speakers
They do but they're also very expensive. Plus I prefer crossing over subs and speakers and McIntosh doesn't do that as far as I know. The Parasound P6 has that feature plus tone controls and it's also a smooth sounding pre-amp. I'm happy with it. Will the McIntosh sound/pair better with the B&W? It will and I've heard that combo many times at every dealer and audio show. But if I'm looking to spend $3500+ on that kind of amp then I would prefer to get bigger speakers that don't need a sub and run full range like that. Maybe one day in the future.
He is so right about the fluctuation in recording quality. amazing. the better the system the more noticeable the differences. tone adjustment is necessary; and even between tracks on the same CD! annoying.
That's one of the reasons why I don't recommend these speakers to my friends or someone who is a casual listener. They'll be a lot happier with the Polk or Martin Logan. They both are not as picky or fussy when it comes to electronics or recordings
Oh my God how many audio stuff you do own)))DREAM of mine)))I used to have rotel A12 but I had to return it because of Bluetooth which stopped working, after that I decided to go with Marantz pm7000n and I’m happy with the way how it moves my focal chorus 716
Hi, I ❤️ Your passion for the hobby. As a Long time BW owner & 30 year nutty audiophile I can tell you you are only hearing about 30% of what those speakers can deliver. Move that glass table, it’s killing your imaging. The glass fireplace in between them isn’t doing them any favors. Pull them out from the wall & experiment with toe in. Room treatments will help. The Rotel is decent and it’s hi current but it’s kinda like running a Corvette on 2 cylinders. A good tube pre & a higher quality amp with more power is what those speakers crave to sound their best. Hopping my criticism was positive & constructive 😊
Hi bbarnell! I don't disagree with you and I should have mentioned it in my video that the living room has to be a compromise between what I can have and how I can use it. I would rather at the very least have something I want and use it to the best I can in accordance with how the room should remain according to my wife. Life and marriage are about compromise. She let's me fulfill my desires as long as I don't step on her toes either :) Which means the living room should still look like a living room. I'll look into other amp options when the time is right. And when I do have a dedicated music room in the next place, there won't be a table or a fireplace or anything in between the setup and myself. Just room treatments and me.
The most I can do is move them around a little from where they're at right now. Maybe an inch left or right or front and back. And maybe move the subs further out. Also can you recommend and a good tube pre & higher quality amp? Thanks!
I always felt Macintosh + B&W had good synergy together. Mac is very smooth and non fatiguing, good match for the diamond tweeter. It’s seems to be kinda a NY thing (MAC,B&W+ Audioquest) I use c2500 Tube pre & 402 ss Amp with mine, Heaven. An additional benefit is Macintosh holds its value better than any other hi gear I know of
LOL I actually just do a light dusting with a micro fiber cloth once a week. I take great care not to leave any scuff marks. and I never let anyone, including myself, touch them so no finger prints ever.
All audio equipment is good, excellently described and its true for rubber insulation under the speakers (especially with wooden floors), but if itself work made iven better sound it would be around the B&W speakers: as the first acoustic isolation of the room with bass absorbers in the corners and reflectors / diffusers on the walls. Replacing the pre-amp and amp with the higher end amps: pass, classe, accuphase ... For such high quality speakers you don't need to use subwoofers when listening music seriously, because even the best subw have big errors in phase, time delay, layout, freq. aligners, and volume levels error based on position in the room and listener position.
In all honesty I feel no lag or sync or timing issues in any song between speakers and subs. It sounds cohesive, timing is fine, I don't feel the songs I've been listening to all my life sound any different. They sound the best I've heard with these speakers and subs but my ears can not pick out any thing out of sync or different. Just better. At low volumes especially is where subs make the biggest difference. You can still 'feel' the bass at low volumes only because of powered subs. These speakers at low volumes sound great but become bass shy. That is usually true of most speakers with 6.5" bass drivers (especially if they have 2 or less of them). Unfortunately I can't change the aesthetics of this room to accommodate for improved sound. My wife is happy to let me live my hobbies but this is also her home. So I have to respect her space as well. And the living room is mainly her space as I have the entire basement to myself. As is they still sound fantastic and many of my audiophile friends were very impressed with the setup and sound. They were especially impressed at how much I spent on this setup and the sound I get without much room treatment or spending huge $$$. The rubber isolation did make the biggest difference in improving the sound and I am glad I did that. InshAllah when we get our next place I will have this setup in a dedicated music room with different amps, room treatments and get something else for the living room there.
@@cyberathlete Audio sound is an emotion and fun that everyone adjusts to themselves differently, but it is true that we have different ideas of how neutral or colored the sound is, what we do with subw is the color of the sound in which we change the linearity of the main speakers. It is true 2 x 6.5 " units are too small and have too little airflow and too high fs to get the deepest bass for these needs at least from 9" units, but if we don't listen to electronic music and movie music 2 x 6.5 " is enaf with(room tretmant! + diferend speaker position!). I agree with everything you wrote and let's all enjoy the music.
Thanks Thomas , And for the guy sharing his system thank you also , amazing systems you have !! I bet those b&w sound crazy good ! That was funny about the microphones that was great ! Hey Thomas my drive to pick up the New Intergrated amp up was 8 hours total !!! I tagged pic in my community page 😆 i'm so happy !!
@@ThomasAndStereo Buttery smooth with weight 😆 Bass that digs down low with speed and authority very well controlled , Midrange thats Forward and natural sounding vocals crazy detailed great instrument seperation you'd almost think is this a solid state ? Pared now with the studio 580s And the top-End tamed with pinch of warmth but still has that sparkle Imaging pared with the studio 580s is down right crazy with Spotifys audiophile tracks with effects doesn't lol, Yeah 3 hours in Thomas i am sure after break in time may have settle changes but me loving it ! Got to get me a good enough DAC for it though my weak link but $600.00 in cables !! 😆
Great gear, I have a Parasound system too, with a P5 and A21 amp... it's great but a little bit dry, for analitical speakers like the B&W that you have I would use a tube integrated or a tube pre at least and the amp you already have. My 2cents.
The P6 has had numerous improvements over the P5. They're not the same pre-amp any more. I have heard the A21 can be a bit dry which is why I setup the Rotel with the P6. The P6 has a full body sound and with the warmth of the Rotel, made for a great pairing. Don't get me wrong I have loved and long eyed the Parasound products, and before I had my eyes on the P5. Since this one came out and it worked well with the B&W I went for it.
I also have the Aperta 200s under my B&W CDM-7NTs - they do a great job of 'opening' the sound. I also know a bloke who put his Klipsch RP-150s on a cabinet and was and was moaning they didn't work well in his space. I concluded cabinet resonance and recommended Aperta 100s - problem solved.
I didn't realize how much of a difference they make until I tried one. Especially given these towers are not that tall, the stands brought the tweeter to ear level and also tightened up the sound and opened it up at the same time. I think it's because when that energy is not being picked up my the floor it's instead being projected in the room.
What a nice video and nice setups. At 6:05 In B&w setup I swear I see a 3rd subwoofer next to chair. The dual Martin Logan subs certainly scare me (in a good way) for a room that size 😀
That's the T7i sitting unplugged. It's a unit I borrowed from my good friends at Simply Stereo to see how it sounds :) I'll talk more about that in my follow up video to this tomorrow. It does produce slightly lower notes and also has more volume bass but it also sounds different. I haven't figured out yet if I prefer this over the T5i. Especially since the T5i is half the price and also already a very musical sub with great bass notes and it works really well with the 804 D2's
Actually a microphone & a speaker are basically the same thing If you plug a speaker into the input of an amp & tap it you will get sound out of that systems speaker
This was cool, my tip is to get your subs up off the floor, put them on a 1 foot isolation pad even try putting them at different heights (one higher than the other) Edit Also try to not have them parallel with each other, don't think of them as a "speaker" they're not, think of them as a pressure device that you want to evenly distribute pressure in the room so having both on one side of the room isn't going to do that
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 I would but as accommodating as my wife is I have to draw the line somewhere. The living room is still her room so I have to be withing WAF guidelines of how the room looks. So putting subs a foot high and having these stands in the room, she's not too crazy about that.
@@cyberathlete You'd put them on isolation pads. I understand, it's the reason why I haven't spent stupid money on my system. In my opinion unless you really have a dedicated listening room that you can trick out with room treatments and proper speaker placement etc it's kind of a waste of money trying to live around a system in a normal room in a house.
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 Thanks. I'll try it out. I was concerned about leaving one sub on the floor. Right now I only have two different subs of different sizes. One I don't really want to work w/ lol
you can hear at the echo of his voice...the b&w is in the non acoustic treaded room. but those speakers realy need a warmer room setup. i got them to xD the bowers realy play every type of music just fine!...its the room that let it sound not so good! try them down stairs, listen and youll see 😃
mil sv they’re ok and great depending on the listener. I sold the polks and got a set of M&K s150p and partnered it with a velodyne DD18. All THX Ultra certified and is a lot more cinematic
Awesome setups! Anyone knocking the bedroom system is just jealous of your staggering WAF. How many other married men can have tower speakers in the bedroom? Besides, looks to me like you made the best use of the space available.
Here's the POV from the bed i.imgur.com/UzApZtE.jpg Also there's been a change since I made the video. You'll see the LG C9 65" OLED now on the dresser. Waiting on the wall bracket to show up so I can hang it on the wall now that the TV is a permanent fixture in the room. I think I'm pushing my luck a lot lol. But this TV is for her and she's loving it
Thanks Tahsim.. I have heard both running on a Luxman and for overall tonality I give the edge to Focal Sopra No. 2. I demoed them at a dealer with both speakers in the exact same spot and electronics. I really liked the Focal Sopra No. 2. Soundstage still on B&W side but overall sound Sopra.
it seems that more manufacturers of higher end equipment are going the route of letting some of their products be sold online.examples of this are bowers and wilkins and mcintosh.
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Man this dude lucked out with his choice of woman. 3 systems in 1 house; in my dreams! Love the running comments Thomas.
There are 4 :) the 4th one is saved for another video by Thomas :) it's the mini setup in my home office. And thank you :)
@@cyberathlete good for you man. A great quality video and the audio was also top notch. I take it your lovely wife is Indian?
@@jamesdwright we're both Pakistani :) but we share some things with Indians. Some cultural, some linguistic, some mannerisms. After all Pakistan was a part of India before it gained independence in 1947
To echo on what @james said. Respect on getting that many sound systems in your house 👏🏾
You can hear the joy in his voice when he talks about his system :)
:) I can't complain. I am so fortunate to be able to do enjoy this hobby the way i do. I know the desires and dreams people have, I've had them to, for years, but to be able to fulfill them is fortunate. Fate plays a part in this too so I am grateful for everything.
Love that HiFi set up, those 804 D2 speakers are gorgeous. Awesome component system. Awesome home theater setup. Love the choice of speakers. Please thank Saad for giving us viewers a look at his systems. Have a great day.
Thanks!
Thank you so much! Much appreciated!
Thomas, I can tell just by watching your vids what a good guy you are, but some people unfortunately need to heed the old saying, “if ya don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything”. I personally find all of your videos great, partly in due to the fact that I can tell the kindness behind them and your passion for HiFi seems never ending.
Thank you, Thomas.
Nick Pantazi totally agree, but some ppl are just A-holes and or haters and jelly (jealous). Me personally I could never afford any of the higher end stuff, but I have my used Klipsch stuff, that I always keep my eyes open for, that I’m happy with. I just love car and home audio and I love seeing other people’s setups. Never know when u see an idea u never thought of...✌🏻😁👍🏻
I loved the viewers showcase. All rooms have limitations we may not be able to see. My Focals are quite far apart, but sound better than any other arrangement for my room.
What a lucky guy to own all that cool stuff. He sounds really happy. I know I would be too. :)
Thank you so much! I really appreciated this comment.
@@cyberathlete Your welcome and thank you for taking the time to share your system. You own great gear and have a nice living area too. I own Bowers & Wilkins speakers too, the 606 bookshelves. I have them paired to a Yamaha A-S801 amplifier. I love it. If I had more money I would buy components/speakers like yours but I am very happy with what I have. Life is short and one must appreciate what one has.
@@Miguel8131981 absolutely. Those are fantastic bookshelves. If you can add a subwoofer with them you'll have a complete speaker. The b&w sound signature is in their 600 series as well. I'm very familiar with them and actually that is one of their best received line they made.
@@cyberathlete Yes I am using an SVS subwoofer with them. Also, a Klipsch subwoofer sometimes.
Ma sha Allah. No bad eye
Nicely done! I use a sub stand and I love the way it affects the sound, tighter in my house.
Thomas, I dont know why people on the internet are so mean. You are doing a nice thing and the people sending in their equipment are being super nice to put out it out there.
Thanks, I don't think people mean harm when they say those things, it is just that their filter is gone for some reasons behind a keyboard.
Mr do is somewhat right, though I think showing what you have is an integral part of any hobby culture, it really wouldn't be a culture without it. But correlating 'critique' = 'mean' is pretty cowardly (and erroneous) in my mind, in that its a very convenient way to negate what they are saying. Not that what they were saying about some strangers hifi system is the peak of philosophical debate.
I had a long response written out but I deleted it. Sure wish more people would do that as well.
The isolation feet are really gaining in popularity these days, the video reinforces the benefits of it well.
Got to say you got three excellent systems that cater well to their respective environments. Kudos !
It always brought me great pain to see zeos review speakers on top of his ohm walsh's. Oh well, at least he's entertaining.
it Is always refreshing to observe the beginning and development of an audiophile journey ! :).
Yeah, I don't know why but it is fun to see other people's system.
Thomas, the ironic thing about the negative comments, is that they are more of a reflection of the person making the comments then the topic they are speaking to.
Not to mention a direct product our heavy indoctrination through public education (Democracy/ Gang rule)...that weak minds fall prey/victim to.
Thanks for the awesome videos from your great friends Thomas.
Nice straw man. People can make criticism of thing and have it also be valid, many of those existed in that sopra video. Crying about how its "mean" doesn't change that.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 Really, isn't that exactly what you just did "straw man"?
I thought I was just making an obvious general statement as to the human condition via our social/cultural/educational/political indoctrination systems...?
I didn't watch said video, or make any assumptions or augments, not to mention personal attacks or try to invalidate anyone's arguments for that matter. Plus I never cried about anything or said that anyone was mean even?
Did you read my post or comment on the wrong post? Notice, the first word it Thomas?
@Mr Do Psychology...the profession with 3% cure rate; they deserve the respect and accolades of a criminal...sign me up for some shock therapy and a straight jacket with a side of lobotomy, Mr. Sigmund Freud?
Thanks for sharing! Great to see other people’s setups and hear about their experiences.
Thank you for addressing the bad comments on Justin's video! Why do people have to be mean? If you don't have anything good to say, keep quiet. Great channel. Keep it up.
The most important thing about a set is who he is satisfied with.
What others think .......SO WHAT.
Grtz Phil
I love the upstairs system.
Nice Setup(s) 👍🏻 specialy the B&W, awesome speakers!
I have sympathy for you guys that go through the effort and post videos. Never mind the hateful trolls. They exist to incite anger. Give them no daylight. Your efforts are appreciated.
Very beautiful home and great sound systems too!
Thank you
Loved the video! Ofcourse it's not perfect, but where's the fun in that? This was wholesome and I enjoyed every second of it! Glad to see someone is enjoying their gear!
:)
Nice Bong! Nice accessory for your nice system. All of your equipment and home was nice. Thanks for sharing
I love this guy's house!!! :D That being said, my husband would kill me if I go stereo shopping like that.
Thank you!!
Mad respect for Rotel! Used to have the RMB1095 and once I tested it, with the backyard door open I could hear the sound all the way to the stop sign! I love your system.
Thomas, love your system tours. I would never criticise another man’s sound system, nor would I expect him to criticise mine. I built my system to suit my listening preference with in the constraints of my budget and listening environment as do I suspect most enthusiasts, not to appease others. Neither would I criticise the car a person chooses to drive. It is interesting and educational to see the various combinations of systems people arrive at. I’m in the process of seriously upgrading my current set up and look to everywhere and anywhere for ideas. Keep up the good work Thomas.
Exactly. I do have a budget and then try to build the best that I can that caters to my preferences within that budget. Sky is the limit in this hobby. However I also try to advise people in system selection as I've learned a lot from my researches and experiences.
cyberathlete that’s exactly why I watch channels like this. I’ve been an enthusiast since the eighties. Made a lot of mistakes and bad decisions and learned a lot through experience and I’m still learning, still on that journey, but the goalposts keep moving. Then, there’s the the wife factor! ‘You’re not putting them in our living room. Theyte too big, too ugly and will dominate my space’! Etc.
Unfortunately, there is a lot of snobbery in this industry! I don’t care for snobs, it’s unnecessary! I’m an I’m an enthusiast, I’ve built my component system over many, many years. A friend of mine has a tiny studio flat. She has an inexpensive, all in one, Pioneer system and do you know hat? It sounds lovely. I have a little desktop Bose active system at work. I love it!
Nice system
Beautiful Saad! Enjoy.
Thank you!
Thomas thank you so much for sharing! I am having so much fun watching this video and also interacting with the community. Please post your questions or comments. I'll answer as many as I can.
@cyberathlete Hi Saad, awesome setups! Was wondering what your opinion was on the Rotel RB1582 as I'm considering picking one up to pair with my B&W 606. Have you tried other amplifiers such as the Parasound A23+ or Marantz MM7025? If so, how would you compare them to the 1582? Thanks!
Very nice Saad.I like the fact you re-purposed the Martin Logans witb a high value Peachtree and it didn't overload the room.
Thank you! I tried to find a simple solution and keep it practical. The Peachtree checked off everything. Plus it's a nice looking unit as well which has a higher WAF than your typical HiFi receiver design. Here's a POV picture for the setting. The Peachtree has been moved below and a TV now takes the top of the dresser.
i.imgur.com/UzApZtE.jpg
I realize how much better his system is when he wants to get rid of the floor bass vibrations.
If I was on the ground floor (where I also have a system), i have no need for the isolation pads. I have subs and large floorstanders that can output a lot of bass but they bass energy is not lost in the floor. As I am on the second floor with hardwood, the floor picked up some bass energy as the sub is downward firing. By adding isolation pads it helped a lot. So isolation pads are a case by case basis, for some there will be immediate and perceivable difference and they will be believers of it, for others they may not notice much and dismiss them as another snake oil product. I am one of the most skeptical people and I honestly don't like a lot about the audiophile BS that goes around, but in my situation these pads helped out.
Thomas, to heck with the negative comments, regardless of dated couches or less than optimal speaker placement, both Saad's and Paul's videos are excellent. I learned from both of them, especially Paul's room treatment approaches and Saad's use of the Isoacoustics Aperta 200's. Personally I'd take a fine playback system (like Paul's) over furniture ANY day of the week - Thank you to Saad & Paul for so graciously sharing their systems with us. Please keep these types of vids coming.
Beautiful house! The set-ups are really diverse. I appreciate that you sample equipment from up and down the audio cost spectrum.
Much appreciated!
Thank you. I think part of the reason I did this was to prove that you can have a solid and absolutely audiophile certified system for less. You don't need to spend a lot up get phenomenal sound. The most expensive system I have was definitely a splurge and to fulfill my dream of owning it. But I was always 100% happy with every system before it.
Beautiful speakers!
Indian Music Lover who loves to hear Bollywood songs.
Same man. I love a lot of Desi music
A gamer needs his game room. Great set-ups.
Those ML Motion 40's are my main speakers and their awesome. Glad to see you have a pair also.
I love them! I would never part with them.
Real nice system(systems) to enjoy music, congrats.
awesome set ups dude!
very nice system and comfy looking sofa ;]
That red cap on the right hand sub is lovely!
That's the cherry red finish. Thank you! I picked these up brand new on clearance for $950 each. The reason they're different colors is that I could only get my hand on one black as that color sold out fast, and then I had to get another and the cherry red was the other option. The mismatch does not bother me least bit.
@@cyberathlete me neither
Making it real, Thomas...I've been really enjoying your insights into hifi...more insights than reviews, as you like to put it...I'm a subscriber now, lol!
The systems aside, a lucky guy with an accomdating wife.
Thank you!
Great setup. The B&W Diamond series are very very good. Got some 702 S2 CM10's and they are brilliant. Cannot wait to upgrade. Yes, they are very revealing and that is what makes the definition of what you listen to so good or bad based on the standard of recording. Thankfully, wifey also likes my setup so I am lucky.
ok thank you. i will try it
Great videos to come.Merci.
This video really puts a smile on my face. These systems are amazing. He owns half of what I own lol. I have the rotel 1582 mkii, the lsim707s, and 703s, but i have 2 svs sb4000s instead of the martin Logan's. But I do own a pair of Martina Logan ESLs. Great video thomas. LOVE IT!!! Okay, maybe not half. But some of what I have. 😁
Nice man! You got a killer setup there. Those 4000's are killer subs. I bet they shake the foundations of your home
@@cyberathlete lol, they definately can shake the house. I have a bad case of the audio bug to say the least. Hope to own a pair of focal sopra 3s one day. It's my attempted end game plan!!
Those a older model B&W, but all the diamond series are very nice. The 800 is my fave, but I like all the diamonds. The bookshelf models are amazing. Love the detail in B&W. Cool system.
They are all the 800 series, just the sizes vary. 805, 804, 802 and 800, all called the 800 series.
I have the same poweramp. Nice set up.
Nice review. Funny like it. Tks
Nice systems and nice space!
I just saved you some money!
You should start a patreon account to raise money for the movers who will come in his room to take that couch away thats blocking the sopra 3. LOL
Make sure you are first in line to contribute!!
@@ThomasAndStereo Hahahha, if you can guarantee the funds will go to the movers I will be! lmao... I know your giggling Thomas, don't lie.
My Kef LS50 also sit on a set of Aperta 200s. These stands really do work wonders.
Nice set ups, dankeschön.
Good stuff. I always say, two systems are better than one and often cheaper than trying to build one super high-end one which would still have it's strengths and weaknesses.
Best part is today is does not cost much to build a kickass system.
Thanks Kerry! I have a friend who has been on my case about why I spent so much on different systems and not pool all the money into one kick ass system and then skimp on other setups. I told him that then I would really only have one enjoyable system and everything else would just be ok. Whereas now I am content and happy with every setup. rather be ecstattic about one setup, and be ok with the rest, I prefer to be content with all. There is one more setup Thomas did not show in this video :) He is saving that for the next video.
And yes even with the more expensive system there are no perfect systems so you will have to get something else that does those things well that your first system doesn't. It's always a trade-off. You just have to know what you want then go with the system that checks on all the things important to you
Congrats, pretty cool systems.
This was great....Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for sharing
You have got to stop letting it be known how much the negative comments are affecting you and the system's owners. That just adds fuel to the fire for the trolls. You have to ignore them, as difficult as that is. Audiophiles tend to be a bit more mature and intelligent than regular YT trolls, so it is a little surprising and disappointing they are so prevalent here. Lovely systems btw. Very tasteful... thanks for sharing
Thanks. I noticed once I film a short intro asking people to refrain from Trolling, it actually works.
He did the right thing because it sucks to share your setup only to see negative comments from most folks. I don't mind it if people flame my choice of pre-amp and amp and lack of room treatments etc but I don't care. But it' s not going to feed the trolls because when it's been said not to post negative comments, the community then jumps in as well to defend this stance. And I welcome opinions and suggestions to any of my current setups. I will work on cable management downstairs soon.
Nice tour, thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
Glad to see someone else with multiple systems in the house. Also those isolation feet are a necessity in many situations and I'm always surprised hardly anyone have them. And the people who have these RUclips channels rarely mention them!
Those isolation feet are quite expensive. Not everyone can afford them or it would be better to spend that money on another part of the system that makes a bigger difference.
@@raydm4015 agreed, some isolation feet are incredibly expensive, but this guy was using some relatively inexpensive isolation feet from what looked like a silicone based rubber-like substance that doesn't mark the floors.
I also use these under my components. Truly inexpensive and sonically worthwhile. Great isolators.
As a side note I have nothing like the Gaia's. I would rather put that sort of crazy money towards new components.
I will be posting a video on my channel elaborating more on my living room setup and all the links to all the accessories, cables, isolation feet in my video description. You can absolutely go the inexpensive route and get the same results.
@@raydm4015 You can actually get inexpensive ones and they will do the same thing. Promise! I will post a video on my channel soon! in the next 2-3 days and will talk in great detail with links to everything you can buy for less and get amazing results.
Nice stuff well presented
Very nice! 👍
As someone who very recently acquired a set of Polk L800's, an L400 and L200's, I can relate to your feelings about your LSIM's. WONDERFUL speakers. The L800's are SO bass-capable that I'm feeling I don't "need" my JL Audio Fathom 212 sub...but I'm keeping it anyway lol ! As for the 804 Diamonds, I could never get mine to play warm enough so I unloaded 'em.
Thank you! Yes the 804 D2 are used for particular genres and artists and recordings.. If they could be warmer and less trebly they would've been perfect but alas that journey continues. I still think they rock for so much music I can't fault them for how they are. I will be posting a more detailed video on my channel about my living room setup and also share a playlist on Amazon HD where every track sounds stunning on these. And Polk Audio doesn't get enough credit but their LSiM and now the Legend, lines are something else. I haven't heard the Legend yet but will definitely want to check them out at Axpona whenever that happens this year
Great video!
Thomas, best comment bubbles ever! cool video, thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very nice! Congratulations!
Thank you
wow some awesome gear showed off here.i love those depth I subs.cant go wrong with B@W.known great speakers.
Get a couple of pieces of granite remnant. Place them on the rubber feet and the subs on the granite. Big Improvement in a down-firing sub.
Love Rotel amplifier and power amp.
ML make great stuff; even the lower end.35Is are super for the $$ ;especially with a ML sub with room correction.
Agreed
Glad to see the billionaire boys club is alive and well
Next time it will be the trillionaire ladies club.
What this guy did in the living room with the inside and outside walls of his b&W, more people need to do. It makes the sound much more natural and bass rich. I also mention this in one of my videos. When you do not have this tiny detail in place, the sound just gets pumped in the room and creates bass suckout effect, HIFI shows can learn from this!
Thanks dude! LOL Could you clarify a little on the inside and outside walls of my B&W :)
The furniture you have on the inside of your speakers isolate the sound waves so your middle range/treble/bass have to work a lot less. It creates the illusion that the speaker is really bigger and better, whereas if you have a relatively small speaker in a big room, typically what happens is that the speaker sounds more bright/harsh/hifi/less integrated and natural. Same with the subs or whatever they are outside the speakers.
That is also why a lot of demo rooms at stores and shows are so cold and HIFI, it's small things like this and your carpet and furniture that can make most equipment sound pretty good.
If you have audio note and vandersteen and some few other brands, it is even more crucial that this is done, or else it totally destroys the sound.
Also having stuff like wooden chairs in a room gives the sound wave the proper lag for it to sound more natural.
@@RealHIFIHelp I ended up unintentionally setting it up the way it is but you're right. The boundaries on 3 sides of the tower speakers act as a sort of an enclosed space which especially help with the bass response. The speakers do fill up the room without sounding lean or small. They have a very robust sound. Extremely robust. Thank you! This was a great observation and now this setting I will keep in mind for future setups especially when it comes to smaller speakers
Cool, then check out my channel there is more nerdy stuff like that in it.
A McIntosh integrated amp would pair very with the B&W. 🤤
They do but they're also very expensive. Plus I prefer crossing over subs and speakers and McIntosh doesn't do that as far as I know. The Parasound P6 has that feature plus tone controls and it's also a smooth sounding pre-amp. I'm happy with it. Will the McIntosh sound/pair better with the B&W? It will and I've heard that combo many times at every dealer and audio show. But if I'm looking to spend $3500+ on that kind of amp then I would prefer to get bigger speakers that don't need a sub and run full range like that. Maybe one day in the future.
He is so right about the fluctuation in recording quality. amazing. the better the system the more noticeable the differences. tone adjustment is necessary; and even between tracks on the same CD! annoying.
That's one of the reasons why I don't recommend these speakers to my friends or someone who is a casual listener. They'll be a lot happier with the Polk or Martin Logan. They both are not as picky or fussy when it comes to electronics or recordings
Oh my God how many audio stuff you do own)))DREAM of mine)))I used to have rotel A12 but I had to return it because of Bluetooth which stopped working, after that I decided to go with Marantz pm7000n and I’m happy with the way how it moves my focal chorus 716
Thank you Andrew. It took me many years to get all of this. I didn't buy everything altogether. I've slowly acquired everything over the last 7 years.
Hi, I ❤️ Your passion for the hobby. As a Long time BW owner & 30 year nutty audiophile I can tell you you are only hearing about 30% of what those speakers can deliver. Move that glass table, it’s killing your imaging. The glass fireplace in between them isn’t doing them any favors. Pull them out from the wall & experiment with toe in. Room treatments will help. The Rotel is decent and it’s hi current but it’s kinda like running a Corvette on 2 cylinders. A good tube pre & a higher quality amp with more power is what those speakers crave to sound their best. Hopping my criticism was positive & constructive 😊
Hi bbarnell! I don't disagree with you and I should have mentioned it in my video that the living room has to be a compromise between what I can have and how I can use it. I would rather at the very least have something I want and use it to the best I can in accordance with how the room should remain according to my wife. Life and marriage are about compromise. She let's me fulfill my desires as long as I don't step on her toes either :) Which means the living room should still look like a living room.
I'll look into other amp options when the time is right.
And when I do have a dedicated music room in the next place, there won't be a table or a fireplace or anything in between the setup and myself. Just room treatments and me.
The most I can do is move them around a little from where they're at right now. Maybe an inch left or right or front and back. And maybe move the subs further out.
Also can you recommend and a good tube pre & higher quality amp? Thanks!
I always felt Macintosh + B&W had good synergy together. Mac is very smooth and non fatiguing, good match for the diamond tweeter. It’s seems to be kinda a NY thing (MAC,B&W+ Audioquest) I use c2500 Tube pre & 402 ss Amp with mine, Heaven. An additional benefit is Macintosh holds its value better than any other hi gear I know of
Ooooh! Looking forward for the room treatment vid
I'm jealous, someday I'll have stuff like this. I have my eye on the B&W 607 bookshelves, but that'll have to wait until I get my own place.
I suspect Saad polished the speakers and subs to a super shine and ensured there were no fingerprint marks before recording this 😂🤣
LOL I actually just do a light dusting with a micro fiber cloth once a week. I take great care not to leave any scuff marks. and I never let anyone, including myself, touch them so no finger prints ever.
6:50 Thank you Thomas. I will say I am super fortunate. And she's beautiful inside and out. I get away with a lot of things :)
Lucky guy on many fronts! Thanks for sharing with us!
@@sdriza Thank you!
All audio equipment is good, excellently described and its true for rubber insulation under the speakers (especially with wooden floors), but if itself work made iven better sound it would be around the B&W speakers: as the first acoustic isolation of the room with bass absorbers in the corners and reflectors / diffusers on the walls. Replacing the pre-amp and amp with the higher end amps: pass, classe, accuphase ... For such high quality speakers you don't need to use subwoofers when listening music seriously, because even the best subw have big errors in phase, time delay, layout, freq. aligners, and volume levels error based on position in the room and listener position.
In all honesty I feel no lag or sync or timing issues in any song between speakers and subs. It sounds cohesive, timing is fine, I don't feel the songs I've been listening to all my life sound any different. They sound the best I've heard with these speakers and subs but my ears can not pick out any thing out of sync or different. Just better.
At low volumes especially is where subs make the biggest difference. You can still 'feel' the bass at low volumes only because of powered subs. These speakers at low volumes sound great but become bass shy. That is usually true of most speakers with 6.5" bass drivers (especially if they have 2 or less of them).
Unfortunately I can't change the aesthetics of this room to accommodate for improved sound. My wife is happy to let me live my hobbies but this is also her home. So I have to respect her space as well. And the living room is mainly her space as I have the entire basement to myself. As is they still sound fantastic and many of my audiophile friends were very impressed with the setup and sound. They were especially impressed at how much I spent on this setup and the sound I get without much room treatment or spending huge $$$.
The rubber isolation did make the biggest difference in improving the sound and I am glad I did that. InshAllah when we get our next place I will have this setup in a dedicated music room with different amps, room treatments and get something else for the living room there.
@@cyberathlete
Audio sound is an emotion and fun that everyone adjusts to themselves differently, but it is true that we have different ideas of how neutral or colored the sound is, what we do with subw is the color of the sound in which we change the linearity of the main speakers.
It is true 2 x 6.5 " units are too small and have too little airflow and too high fs to get the deepest bass for these needs at least from 9" units, but if we don't listen to electronic music and movie music 2 x 6.5 " is enaf with(room tretmant! + diferend speaker position!).
I agree with everything you wrote and let's all enjoy the music.
Love it
Excellent review!!
Tone controls are a thing ..looks at Dan D’Agostino gear...he has controls for base and treble and it’s in the realm of Ultra High End Audio 😎
Thanks Thomas , And for the guy sharing his system thank you also , amazing systems you have !! I bet those b&w sound crazy good ! That was funny about the microphones that was great ! Hey Thomas my drive to pick up the New Intergrated amp up was 8 hours total !!! I tagged pic in my community page 😆 i'm so happy !!
So how is it?!
@@ThomasAndStereo Buttery smooth with weight 😆 Bass that digs down low with speed and authority very well controlled , Midrange thats Forward and natural sounding vocals crazy detailed great instrument seperation you'd almost think is this a solid state ? Pared now with the studio 580s And the top-End tamed with pinch of warmth but still has that sparkle Imaging pared with the studio 580s is down right crazy with Spotifys audiophile tracks with effects doesn't lol, Yeah 3 hours in Thomas i am sure after break in time may have settle changes but me loving it ! Got to get me a good enough DAC for it though my weak link but $600.00 in cables !! 😆
Great gear, I have a Parasound system too, with a P5 and A21 amp... it's great but a little bit dry, for analitical speakers like the B&W that you have I would use a tube integrated or a tube pre at least and the amp you already have. My 2cents.
The P6 has had numerous improvements over the P5. They're not the same pre-amp any more. I have heard the A21 can be a bit dry which is why I setup the Rotel with the P6. The P6 has a full body sound and with the warmth of the Rotel, made for a great pairing. Don't get me wrong I have loved and long eyed the Parasound products, and before I had my eyes on the P5. Since this one came out and it worked well with the B&W I went for it.
@@cyberathlete interesting, didn't know that P6 was so different. Thanks for the heads up!
@@net_news check it out in their website.
@@cyberathlete cheking it out right now. Thanks! And congrats for your system it's great! Oh! I love the LSIMs too ;)
Uh, looking forward for day 4 :) - I had the 3050 once.They started my HIFI journey. ..I miss them sometimes :)
Dream systems or dream wife? Well done, it is all awesome!
Thank you!
I also have the Aperta 200s under my B&W CDM-7NTs - they do a great job of 'opening' the sound. I also know a bloke who put his Klipsch RP-150s on a cabinet and was and was moaning they didn't work well in his space. I concluded cabinet resonance and recommended Aperta 100s - problem solved.
I didn't realize how much of a difference they make until I tried one. Especially given these towers are not that tall, the stands brought the tweeter to ear level and also tightened up the sound and opened it up at the same time. I think it's because when that energy is not being picked up my the floor it's instead being projected in the room.
great system just straight forward nothing snake oils
What a nice video and nice setups. At 6:05 In B&w setup I swear I see a 3rd subwoofer next to chair. The dual Martin Logan subs certainly scare me (in a good way) for a room that size 😀
That's the T7i sitting unplugged. It's a unit I borrowed from my good friends at Simply Stereo to see how it sounds :) I'll talk more about that in my follow up video to this tomorrow. It does produce slightly lower notes and also has more volume bass but it also sounds different. I haven't figured out yet if I prefer this over the T5i. Especially since the T5i is half the price and also already a very musical sub with great bass notes and it works really well with the 804 D2's
Nice system, what do you listen to when you fire up that Turkish water pipe?
Mustafa Sandal, Hooverphonic, Talvin Singh and more :)
Actually a microphone & a speaker are basically the same thing If you plug a speaker into the input of an amp & tap it you will get sound out of that systems speaker
Lol
This was cool, my tip is to get your subs up off the floor, put them on a 1 foot isolation pad even try putting them at different heights (one higher than the other)
Edit
Also try to not have them parallel with each other, don't think of them as a "speaker" they're not, think of them as a pressure device that you want to evenly distribute pressure in the room so having both on one side of the room isn't going to do that
Interesting, why on different levels? I have my sub on a stand 16 in off the ground. Works better. Not as boomy. Beats crawling lol.
@@JJTeam-yr6tb
Creates a smoother frequency response by balancing out the pressure in the room.
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 I would but as accommodating as my wife is I have to draw the line somewhere. The living room is still her room so I have to be withing WAF guidelines of how the room looks. So putting subs a foot high and having these stands in the room, she's not too crazy about that.
@@cyberathlete
You'd put them on isolation pads.
I understand, it's the reason why I haven't spent stupid money on my system.
In my opinion unless you really have a dedicated listening room that you can trick out with room treatments and proper speaker placement etc it's kind of a waste of money trying to live around a system in a normal room in a house.
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 Thanks. I'll try it out. I was concerned about leaving one sub on the floor. Right now I only have two different subs of different sizes. One I don't really want to work w/ lol
Hey Saad, I have the same 804Ds and get the "is that a microphone?" question all the time!
you can hear at the echo of his voice...the b&w is in the non acoustic treaded room. but those speakers realy need a warmer room setup. i got them to xD
the bowers realy play every type of music just fine!...its the room that let it sound not so good! try them down stairs, listen and youll see 😃
That's a good idea. One of these days.
Funny. I actually have the LSiM 707s in my theater and ML motion 60XT in my music setup. Very similar
Its really worth this polk home theater
Pls describe
How is the experience for movies??
mil sv they’re ok and great depending on the listener. I sold the polks and got a set of M&K s150p and partnered it with a velodyne DD18. All THX Ultra certified and is a lot more cinematic
Awesome setups! Anyone knocking the bedroom system is just jealous of your staggering WAF. How many other married men can have tower speakers in the bedroom? Besides, looks to me like you made the best use of the space available.
Here's the POV from the bed
i.imgur.com/UzApZtE.jpg
Also there's been a change since I made the video. You'll see the LG C9 65" OLED now on the dresser. Waiting on the wall bracket to show up so I can hang it on the wall now that the TV is a permanent fixture in the room. I think I'm pushing my luck a lot lol. But this TV is for her and she's loving it
@@cyberathlete Damn man, your wife's bedroom home theater is better than my living room setup.
Yeah a Shisha to confirm the name of Saad, otherwise very white accent to believe lol.
Thanks Saad for sharing you system ❤.
Lol yes that is a permanent fixture in our home. Only use it with friends on social occasions though. :) I'm Pakistani by the way
Super lucky guy saad! Love the b&ws
@thom can you do a sopra 2 vs b&w 8 series side by side?
I will need to get a B&W 8 series to do that :(
Thanks Tahsim.. I have heard both running on a Luxman and for overall tonality I give the edge to Focal Sopra No. 2. I demoed them at a dealer with both speakers in the exact same spot and electronics. I really liked the Focal Sopra No. 2. Soundstage still on B&W side but overall sound Sopra.
Ooooh you lucky man😀
Saad, thanks for opening up your home at this crazy time...now what kind of mics are those on top of the LR speakers? 😉
Those are B&W 402DM mics :)
it seems that more manufacturers of higher end equipment are going the route of letting some of their products be sold online.examples of this are bowers and wilkins and mcintosh.
Yeah, I've noticed that too. E-Commerce is taking over everything, why not? It's just another channel to make money with.