Here’s a simple solution. Rosemary: Hey Sage, why don’t you use magic to make a portal everybody seems to pull them out of thin air. Sage: First, I haven’t practiced that kind yet. And second it is an advanced level Magic that unless you know exactly what your doing can lead to disastrous results. (I came up with that in less than 5 minutes.)
hey thats fun, let me try Rosemary: Damn it, we need to go after the shapeshifter! Sage: Rosemary, its dangerous! our teacher got mortally wounded in the fight and needs immidiate care, we'll stay here and stabilize him. Instead, go and warn the whole school about the shapeshifting enemy! most of the scenarios in this show can be fixed in 2 seconds if the writers just ask themselves ''why?''
My favorite moment of Caraway dumbassery is when Rosemary - being smart for a change - asks a question only the real Caraway could answer to out the imposter and, instead of answering her like a normal person he just says, "Nice!" giving Mandrake time to attack her. I'd say Worst Teacher Ever, but that's still the potions teacher.
@@SweetOrangeGirl Yeah, he Just blasted the dude through a window. He just had to whip a second spell while Mandrake was down and the problem would be gone!
@@gabrieljoseozanan6989 I would’ve thought they’d like the idea of him being captured (since they hate men and all), but they traded that for a stupid fight.
@@Muna-Jlore0997 Plotwise, it kinda doesn't really acomplish much, other than the mostly filler fights & Olive changing sides. Mandrake ultimately after taking on all of them together, still manages to scape by himself well enough to go back to his bosses, seemingly with no extra aid.
This whole show is a tutorial for what not to do when writing a story/fanfic/show. I am working on a story(pen and paper) and as much trouble I am having brainstorming character/weapon ideas I know that my idea will never be as bad as HGS.😁
The writters of High Guardian Spice did exactly the opposite George R. R. Martin did. Because he said he had a plan for the characters of Game of Thrones when he started, but he left the characters made their own choises and let them drive the story instead of forcing his previous plan on them.
I'm still a beginner as a writer, but I already felt this while writing fanfics. I never stop feeling fascinated when a character I planned to be A starts to become B for two reasons: 1- It's a great exercise for your as a writer and 2- This means your characters are gaining layers and becoming more human.
But wait. How do you write good character development like that without going too out of character. Cause I've already written 8 comics in one series but I still wonder if I written them too simple or too out of character?
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 I write some stories on websites, and I end up developing some of my characters, but I don't know how to delve into all the characters, without forgetting some of them.
They could have told Carraway, only to find out Carraway was a spy all along, and then the rest of the series he would be their nemesis bc the staff would believe him over some excitable students.
Want another example of stupidity? Sage's mother, who was far more trusting of old magic than of new magic, sent her daughter to a school known for using new magic. Totally not going to be an issue. This show is so fucking stupid, lol.
@@chimanruler15 It's not uncommon in real life for people to send their kids off to colleges that teach a doctrine they are opposed to. Usually happens because the parents are concerned their kids have a college education, but don't look into what colleges are teaching. Or it could be they want their child to attend their alma mater assuming it'll be the same as when they attended even though the administration and/or curriculum have changed.
My favorite brain dead moment is when Sage is upset with Rose for crushing on Aster. I watched that whole episode waiting to hear Sage's reason for her feelings and it never comes! How hard would have been to add the line, "Last time Rose crushed on a boy she nearly failed the fourth grade"?
@Brand of Sacrifice Not to mention that Aster wasn't even wrong. Rosemary WAS being stuck-up. He actually complimented her on her abilities, and she shut him down. Yeah, he made some thoughtless, sexist comments beforehand, but he wasn't trying to be mean. He just didn't know any better. Of course, that doesn't mean that he can't be called out on that crap, but doesn't the intent matter, too? Not according to HGS, apparently. At the end of the day, people are human, and they have biases. What we should do is to help people overcome these biases, not stone them for having such attitudes. Sheesh.
@@chimanruler15 they really should've done a better job of villifying Aster if they wanted him to be a hate sink. Instead he comes off as harmless and dumb if mildly sexist. The thng that sets off Rose is due to a thing that Rose ehrselfdin't correct him on earlier.
@@sarafontanini7051 Exactly. The writers should have just made Aster a full-on jerk. That seemed to be what they were going for, anyway. But, no, they couldn't even do that. This show fails at even the most basic use of tropes. And, as you rightfully pointed out, Rose never even bothered to correct Aster whenever he got her name wrong. If she had been trying to correct him, only to fail, then her annoyance with him would have been more understandable, but that wasn't what happened. I guess the writers forgot that Rose never corrected Aster. In fact, they seem to forget a lot of previously established things in the story, lol. Oops!
@@sarafontanini7051 He didn't even need to exist, Cal(?) already filled the role of the douche of the class, and is a recurring character, unlike Aster who appears once and is never seen again. Rosemary could've had a crush on him at first, realize he's a jerk, they fight, and that'd also give him a reason to be spiteful for the rest of the show.
I'm glad that you pointed out why Thyme's demon summoning plan is hella stupid and impractical, that was something I really anticipated because I've pointed that out and explained it in my comments of some of your vids too. She could just go to Sage, Aloe and Anis, the ethics teacher lady etc if she really needs to have a portal summoned to make a phone with her dad about making artificial healing water. And all in all, the entire plotline of HGS in general is just the definition of idiot plot, it's not even funny.
Or better yet, she could have tried contacting her father in every way imaginable - letters, crystal balls, travelling, asking someone to deliver the message personally, travelling herself -, but all of these options fail somehow -the letters get intercepted, interference prevents crystal balls from working, the person she sends gets murdered, she herself nearly gets killed trying to travel. That way summoning the demon doesn't sound like a stupid idea, since it's literally the only thing she can try now! That also gives her a reason to not want to tell the teachers - she doesn't know how she got intercepted every time she tried to contact her father, so she suspects one of the school staff members (or more) is a spy, and until they can figure out who it is, they can't reveal what they know to anyone, or else they could put themselves and others at risk. This could also lead to a mini arc where the girls suspect the trans teacher, leading to the doppelganger battle as a climax! This is just like Miraculous Ladybug, the story writes itself yet the writers find a way to screw it up royally!
Hell why have her summon th demon at all? just have the bad guys do it, or the demon is already active and tries to manipualte her into helping him for reasons. That way you can still have the demon fight and not have Thyme be an idiot who thinks she should summon a demon to SEND A FUCKING PHONE CALL
@@cam4636 what this means is that a character is only as smart as his actions are. Since every event and action is controlled by the author, thus means a character can only act as intelligent as the author can. When you see a character being called a “genius” because they can invent a raygun or something, it’s usually complete nonsense when actually analyzed. So, it’s more like a super power, where a character can break reality, than being actual intelligence. But if the character does something clever and understandable to overcome an obstacle, they just simply came up with that clever thing. In other words intelligence. Which the author must have as well, since they were the one who truly came up with it.
@@frankwest5388 Yeah but first, the author has much more time to think about these situations, and finfing solutions quickly is as important as finding them in the first place. And the author doesnt have to find solutions from limited information, they can come up with the result and then have the character come to that conclusion by making clues to lead them into it. Loom at dr.stone or death note or breaking bad, all of those have characters with genius level intellect, superhuman intellect in the case of the first two. They are smarter than the writers, But the authors can write them because of all the advantages they have over the characters.
@@AquaIsUseless I would argue that that still falls under their statement that characters are only as smart as their writers can write. That kind of storytelling can only be pulled off by an intelligent and clever writer. The writers character may be technically 'smarter' than they are but they only appear that way because of the writers ability to use the narrative to control how the audience percieves everything the character can do. Like @Frank West mentioned about the 'genius' characters that when actually analyzed dont hold up. The writer doesnt have the skills to properly hide the gaps. So while writing smart characters because youre smart and writing smart characters because youre a good writer are two different skills they both still require a measure of experience to execute.
And this is part of why I have rp'd out my world with a lot of folks. Helps me catch shit. "...Oh shit yeah this element ISN'T explained well in lore, time to figure out how it actually works!" "Oh yeah, this DOES break established things, what do I need to chance to fix it?" I want to avoid the stupid by fixing it first
The worst bit of writing alone is having to come up with problems that you know how to fix. It's like telling jokes to yourself, you already know the punchline.
If I'm remembering that episode with the healing water right, wasn't it also a succeed or fail task? Like, if Thyme was allowed to keep her healing water, couldn't she just, I don't know, *ask* Amaryllis or Snapdragon for theirs? They obviously didn't get kicked out for failing the mission. Or maybe ask one of the other students that we saw that were featured in the title screen. Oh, wait... No, those are just background mannequins that they placed randomly throughout the school. Great job guys, I'm sure those scarecrows will fend off the weird empty atmosphere that this supposedly bustling city has... -Long off topic rant coming- Honestly, budget or not, this show really doesn't want anyone to dare to upstage their precious main characters... Or even acknowledge that they technically fail their classes when given certain rules to tasks. Like, shouldn't the teachers have noticed the main girls were missing in the caves, or that they came back after dark? Did they think they got scared too and abandoned the mission? Like, I would hope that there was a rescue search out looking for them... Another example is the obstacle race where the teacher says that they can't use magic to make it through. Like, Snapdragon, Sage, and Amarryllis all failed. Even if they didn't want to upset their precious Sage, I thought for sure that they would tell off Amarryllis for that clique bully take down satisfaction... They don't even stroke the ego of the main characters when they do succeed in their classes, for that audience projection aspect that I thought was why the magic school setting was so popular. Get kudos from your favorite teachers and all... It really just solidifies that this show really didn't need to have the school setting if they just wanted wacky magic adventures with no logic.
I thought they needed to hand the healing water over and Thyme just stole some of it. That is why the hole they made in the cave has already been sealed. Of course that does not explain why Thyme took only one vial when there was a whole pool of it. Or just, you know, told the teachers. The evidence for her story is in walking distance of the school.
3:30 So, it isn't like the writers wanted the characters to be stupid (this actually could be good). It's actually: "writers want characters to do A or B, ignoring completely that the most proper in-character choice would be do C" This is far worse. This is a very ammateurish mistake. Even people on their first big production wouldn't make this mistake, and even if they did, at the very moment they got a negative feedback, they certainly would police themselves to not make this mistake again.
they should have just approached the door spell like apperation in Harry Potter, it's very advancded magic that can have disastrous consequences if done wrong and many places have spells preventing it for security reasons. JK rowling's magic system might have a lot of holes but God dammit at least she thought of that.
Or they could've had a rule that portals need prep time to connect the two spots so you can't just open them willy-nilly. (this would still let the teacher use a portal to hand out the assignments for the cave trip since it'd make sense to have a portal linking the testing ground to the school)
Funny thing about demon-killing as far as fantasy and rpg rules apply: Demons are only banished back to their home plane when they die in the material plane. Who's to say that if, Gods forbid, we get a second season, and the demon comes back for Round 2 with the Triumvirate's backing?
@@dragowolfraven3806 Yep, and all it takes is a dice roll and/or some high-powered sacrificial spells/gates/artifacts to see how long they stay banished. Never a question of "If" but "when" with Devils and Demons.
In some settings, turnabout is fair play, and demons can only banish you when you invade their plane. (In Skyrim, Hermaeas Mora can only banish you because you've only been summoned to Apocraphea. Mirak and dragons can absorb your soul, though. Dragon soul things.)
I have read some dumbassery, there was a story where one of main character's best friends were in life threatening danger and their "fantastic and very smart plan" was to sit outside, drink lemonade, and bitch about the ice melting. HGS characters might seem smarter than that, but they probably aren't. They don't see obvious answers to their problems, they don't try harder than the first attempt, and they forget basic information five seconds after learning it. Remember when Parsley's great way to have her friend get a trophy was to hurt another student? Instead of.... giving it to him. Or how Thyme decided summoning a demon was the best way to contact her dad instead of.... I don't know, magic, pigeons, do they have phones? Or how all the teachers seem to not know what they're teaching. I could list every dumb move the characters make but we would be here all day. It's not funny or cute, it's annoying and frustrating.
When you mentioned that they purposely make the characters stupid in order for something to happen, it reminds me that some other shows do this, too. Where they show a character being able to do something, but in the next few episodes they're unable to do said thing. All because they made them stupid just for the sake of the plot. That's one of my pet peeves in animated shows.
Did Thyme or the other main girls ever investigate how and what Neppycat used to 'fix' the rot on a tree? That apparently, healing water isn't the only way to do it.
Having a dragon show up in your scene at the cost of character intelligence because you just want that goddamn dragon has the same energy as D&D saying "Goddamnit, we want a zombie polar bear" and ruining characters' intelligence to make that happen.
13:42: Dave: the teachers are stupid, the students are stupid, the villains are stupid...is there any other stupid i need to know?? The mfs who approved the pitch for this project: hello (Man, this just makes me think of that spongebob scene where the fish lady gets pissed off after asking for squidward several times LOL)
Hey! Remember in Avatar the secret tunnel was a maze that constantly changed because giant badger-moles? Or in Labyrinth, it's pointed out that the Labyrinth also shifts and changes? That's like fantasy cave magic writing 101 that could have easily explained why Tyme couldn't get more healing water from the Spirit Oasis. Imagine if the writers show her going down to the hole, only for giant crystals having grown and blocking it. Or a 1-minute montage scene of her exploring the cave and finding out the spring tends to move and its possible it's in a different cave system all together. Then summoning a demon out of last-ditch desperation might make more narrative sense.
Something else when it comes to Rose and Sage. We got how stupid they are. But why is their friendship seem so rotten. Not to mention does anyone else remember how much male characters are treated like dirt.
What if olive wasn’t introduced as an antagonist but as a student and befriended the main characters then they get proof that there is a spy in the school but they don’t know who it is it will keep the audience in suspense and put the characters in a position where they can’t trust anyone not even the teachers and then boom olive is revealed as the spy emotional blow to both the characters and audience
What could've been fun is if Sage needed materials to do a ritual or sumthn because she isn't skilled enough or mature enough to use the portal spell easily, and so everyone goes out exploring the cave to find the needed materials, and then there can be a suspenseful scene during the ritual where Sage is struggling or the spell is so taxing it hurts her, and then everyone can help her by like, idk smthn or even the power of friendship and encouragement. But idk if this is good since I came up with most of it whilst I was writing this comment sooo
I wouldn't call it anime because of several reasons lol 🤠🔫 But yeah you are right it is the exact sample of what not to do it doesn't have even ONE example of good writing like WTH 😭😭
The more I watch these videos and find out about some flaws I didn't even notice at first I start loving the show. I have no idea why. The more stupid mistakes I see just make me hope that somehow this show gets a 2nd season and somehow gets better. I unironically want the show to magically disappear and come back with good writing and more interesting, actually explored characters.
"Characters who are supposed to be smart but makes really dumb decisions because of bad writing." This sounded hilarious if I didn't realize that well-beloved franchises like Danganronpa and old Fire Emblem are also guilty of this exact thing.
Honestly this show actually has a very great premise and ideas. Which sadly were executed in the WORST way imaginable. It can still be fixed tho! All they have to do is: 1-give it another studio probably 2-Have them redo the entirety of season 1 3-fix the animation 4-fix most of the voice acting or casting 5-fix the story 6-fix the characters 7-just air it and let us enjoy something that is actually GOOD.
It's so easy to nerf portals and make them unavailable when they want to escape the cave. The cave magic makes portals unstable so you can't make one. OR Just say that you have to set the end point up in advance and you're not allowed to do that at school because they don't want random portal runes left everywhere. It makes security into Swiss cheese when students can't secure their portals correctly.
The people who write South Park did a writing advice panel or something like that and in it they said "The Beats of a story should be, this happens and then this happens because that happened, your story shouldn't be, this happened and then this happened and then this happened"
Also Thyme did the demon summon wrong, like she read a leaflet on how to do it and that's it. 1. Unless your using the demon as an attack beast you want to summon it in the salt circle and be outside the circle, Thyme basically let it loose on the world and was lucky it didn't just run off to murder children. 2. Unless you literally don't have time to do it you need to make the salt circle harder to break then decadently kicking it, she just made it without digging it into the ground. 3. Know exactly what you want to say and do before hand and don't deviate, she panicked and didn't know what to do. 4. Know how to kill and or banish it if things go wrong which they do more often then not, not only did she not know how to banish it she also didn't bring a demon slaying weapon.
And wasn’t Thyme’s whole demon summoning story for the sole purpose of having a parallel to a ghost story that the girls were telling? Not only did the episode break Thyme’s character but it was all just filler too 😭
I think a cool limitation for some stuff is race-locking or have different kinds of magic like happends in games. For example have portal magic but only DEMONS can use them or highly studied people on demon magic and it's still draining AF since it's a DARK magic, that way you have portals that can make interesting things happening and used as more mundane spells by the demon teacher yet inaccesible for Sage and most of the low level magic users in school and the world over all to easily escape difficult situations. Also explaining the necessity of Thyme to summon a DEMON to open a portal and talk with her dad, which it's still kinda stupid but at least makes sense why it can't be anything else than a demon.
I would honestly use these to show other people what never to do. And then use the creator’s reaction to the backlash also what not to do. Everything but the writing can be blamed on budget. Unless you ran out of money to hire someone competent to either supervise you or write the script.
Dude that's a spoiler Rose Mary Sue being half demon half angel princess of the ancient secret ROYGBIV kingdom Geez People Don't Give A Care About Spoiling Others 😤
Do all new magic users have the power to open portals? Or just those that are married to hot elfs-that -use-old-magic -ADN -have their magic fussed with said elfs because of the power of love or something?
how they could have had the dragon- someone--were trapped, we need a way out Thyme-Sage, can you make a portal? Sage- I mean i can try but- Rosemary- No time! (drops the dragon egg) Sage-Oh no, how could you do that? Rosemary-What? Im trying to get us out someone-yeah well now were stuck and cant get out and we have a dragon that willl attack us Rosemary-oh no, well sage, can you still do the portal spell? Sage-Well i can try but-ugh (dragon hatches or whatever) Rosemary-quick ,sage do the spell Sage-ahh i can i havnt done it and i need to concertrate Someone-ok well lets see if we can work with the dragon (scene continues as normal)
The dumbest thing that shows how dumb the writers are is calling the two systems of magic, old magic and new magic, while not explaining what the difference is most likely because they didn't think that far.
I’d like to add that even intelligent people can make stupid flukes from time to time but when it’s this badly inconsistent with no basis of explanation it’s bad Like for example a normally smart character does something stupid because time is being pressed against them too soon for them to think things through like they usually do
I think you're giving them way too much credit to say they want certain story beats to work. Because it really feels like no thought process has been given. Stuff just happens for no reason, or it looks cool or quirky. The dragon stuff feels like something they pull out from thin air. It is so inorganic to the plot, that particular writer really must have no proper solution to that situation and so pull the biggest WTF moment in this show This is what happens when you have so much writers working on 1 show, a show with only 12 episodes. Nothing is ever consistent. This really feels like something you see from wattpad
I keep hearing about this "low budget" but I litterally can't find the exact number anywhere, it would be funny if they actually had a normal budget but needed a excuse to say why it was so bad.
If I were a person investing in the show I won’t give them big show budget either, they’d wait to see how much success you can get with that little first
my stories magical world instant travel is basically a secret and requires a lot of prep work. in this world it seems to be super casual but forgettable? how is it forgettable if its so common?
I’m guessing I was the one who said if you were gonna make a video on the characters. Or was that someone else, either way. I love your analysis of this show.
Some part of me feels like the spy description was basically... well not a translation error because english is the original language but the equivalent. With the intended meaning being more like "If they see that we're making moves that might spook them into doing something"
Snapdragon is another character made to be a moron just to drive the plot, and he's quite a level headed person in this entire series. In Ep 11, the entire plot point of snap beating the shit out of Cal and then that transition talk with caraway all started because he had to say that one line about 'it being peaceful on the water'. I swear to god that made me so angry, I was rolling. Why would he willingly say that for Cal to hear, who is known to be a transphobe and a bully. Why can't it be Cal that's taunting him. Why must Snap sit in that position? Let's face it, it was Snap who instigated that fight. Either he's a moron or he's just a psychopath. In my headcanon (psychopath); he, on the boat purposely sat in a suggestive position in front of Cal and spoke that one moronic line to bait Cal into taunting him so Snap could initiate a fight. That was what he planned and it work, getting him reprimanded. Caraway wanted to give snap a chance, but this was all in snap's psychotic plans to be near him. Snap didn't care if he was going to be suspended, as long as he hears validation of transitioning from the one teacher who used transition magic. And it was all that mattered The triad who accessed him with their mind's eye, actually sensed his psychotic plans to bait that fight. So they justified his suspension because they concluded Snap was the malicious one here, not Cal. The moron path is just Snap being stupid and getting out of character to drive the plot. I think I prefer the (psycho) path. It's dark and twisted human psyche.
These characters seem high int, and negative wis. All I can think is that the writers are operating on assumed kid logic when real kids are smarter than this
5:05 "the writers forgot that the characters can do certain things". it is more common that people think. i read in an article that when the concept of sayans transforming into super sayans and their hair turning yellow was introduced, the creator of dragon ball was asked in an interview if the concept had any relation with launch, a previous main character whose hair turned yellow and her personality changed when she sneezed. she stooped showing up on the story altogether so people assumed that her disappearance had something to do with this new plot, some even speculating she could had been an undercover sayan that was watching over goku while growing up. but nop, he stopped using her because he literally forgot she was a character and forgot her powers, they had no relation whatsoever. HE FORGOT ABOUT A CHARACTER THAT FOR A TIME WAS PART OF THE MAIN CAST.
Well I wouldn't say Launch was ever part of the main cast. She was a groupie. She was never important to the story which is how the writer was able to forget her.
7:56 not to mention she summoned it wrong. The daemon was supposed to be INSIDE the circle, ya know, so that u can control it and make it do ur bidding. Her dumba55 put herself in the circle instead, leaving the creature to run about freely and she had ZERO leverage to control it! 🤡🤡🤡🤡
7:09 Let's not forget that they STILL haven't (to the best of my memory) told ANY of the teachers or ANYONE about the rot. Carroway could take them to the water if they're worried about monsters. Hell, tell Dretch. She can portal you down there and back. They act like they're the only ones who can stop the rot and they have to go it alone, but they never even TRIED to ask for help. EDIT: You did get to that. I hadn't watched it all the way through yet, but I'm glad we came to the same conclusion.
With regarding with setting up a portal, like you said; we just assume that everyone can. The writers could have made Sage create a portal, though they could have thought that "Sage just got her terrasphere. She can't create a portal (even though it's a very possible thing to do; even a 5 year old can do it)." Though again, none of this is explained, but it could be something that they thought of behind the scenes. What makes it even more stupid is even with this explanation, it just doesn't add up. The writers will just throw whatever they want whenever they fell like it. 0 ~ 0 That's why all this is a bit frustrating, and further explains why they really just want to make the characters "stupid" just for the sake of story progression. I really do enjoy your videos though! My take isn't really backed, but though I'd throw that in there. High Guardian Spice is such a strange series.
I am re-working on a story with a friend. She made the same mistake of using portals anytime of the day with no consequences and adding random things in there just because it seemed cool...but we were High School kids. We are in our thirties now and we pretty much cringe at the mistakes we had made in the past. And it makes me wonder why these writers can think no better than a High Schooler when the creator is around our age.
It's simple: the characters are only as smart as their writers... Which in this case, even the smartest one is a complete dunce lol Says a lot about the writing crew over there
thank you so much for these videos! i am currently writing a story and your videos inspire me to fuck up ig? yeah i couldve been watching videos like «how to write a good story and not fuck up the time travelling thing» BUT yours are so much more interesting! when i first started watching your videos it was tyat one about caraway telling rosemary that he's trans and i was cautious about this video being transphobic but when ut didn't turn out that way i was really grateful! also love your abridged series! thank you for your videos once again
I'm looking back on these videos and I wanted to say that they really help me with my writing by fixing my plotholes and unnecessary flaws. Thank you :)
While it's not an overly good series, if you read the In Another World With My Smartphone Series the MC gets a gate ability that allows him to use portals with only a handful of limitations. He abuses this ability LIBERALLY! Villain's immune to magical and physical damage? Use a portal to drop him into a container with the stinkiest thing in the world. Golems made of mithril being hard to deal with? Teleport them straight up and let terminal velocity do most of the damage for you. The only reason he doesn't abuse it more is that he has about a half dozen other spells he abuses the fuck out of.
you know its funny, i day dream at work a lot (and i mean a lot) and have had brain stories that i've mapped out if i were to pitch it or make it a series. And even in my head if i think of something new or cool, i also think "how would that fit or work with everything else i've already put in?". In short, the framework of your main story should be able to support everything you put on it, on not the other way around.
Imagine if Sage couldn’t use portals in the cave, she tries and tries and even with inspiration from her friends she can’t, opening in ark where she’s unsure of her magical abilities and actually grows as a character leading to a triumphant moment in a later episode where she finally manages to make a portal yeah it’s probably very cliché but it’s better than what we got
"Guys, don't tell anyone that Olive attacked us, or else Olive will know she attacked us!"
This comment made my day, hahaha
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@@No.NotAgain Thank you my dear soldier 😔
Yea let's do that!
Here’s a simple solution.
Rosemary: Hey Sage, why don’t you use magic to make a portal everybody seems to pull them out of thin air.
Sage: First, I haven’t practiced that kind yet. And second it is an advanced level Magic that unless you know exactly what your doing can lead to disastrous results.
(I came up with that in less than 5 minutes.)
@reviewman You sir have put more effort and thought into this than the writers of this entire show.😁
@@dragowolfraven3806 it’s called thinking, and we all know that there wasn’t room in HGS’s budget for thinking.
Sad but true.
you are a genius.
hey thats fun, let me try
Rosemary: Damn it, we need to go after the shapeshifter!
Sage: Rosemary, its dangerous! our teacher got mortally wounded in the fight and needs immidiate care, we'll stay here and stabilize him. Instead, go and warn the whole school about the shapeshifting enemy!
most of the scenarios in this show can be fixed in 2 seconds if the writers just ask themselves ''why?''
They didn't have big enough budget for adequate amount of IQ points.
Talking about the characters or the writers?
@@Bladez10 it can be both.
So they used the point-buy system and put all the points in constitution first. Makes sense.
the budget is the same amount as the iq
My favorite moment of Caraway dumbassery is when Rosemary - being smart for a change - asks a question only the real Caraway could answer to out the imposter and, instead of answering her like a normal person he just says, "Nice!" giving Mandrake time to attack her. I'd say Worst Teacher Ever, but that's still the potions teacher.
And the fact that he didn’t detain Mandrake but instead let him go free. How incompetent can you possibly be?
@@SweetOrangeGirl Yeah, he Just blasted the dude through a window. He just had to whip a second spell while Mandrake was down and the problem would be gone!
@@gabrieljoseozanan6989 I would’ve thought they’d like the idea of him being captured (since they hate men and all), but they traded that for a stupid fight.
@@gabrieljoseozanan6989 plot.
@@Muna-Jlore0997 Plotwise, it kinda doesn't really acomplish much, other than the mostly filler fights & Olive changing sides.
Mandrake ultimately after taking on all of them together, still manages to scape by himself well enough to go back to his bosses, seemingly with no extra aid.
This whole show is a tutorial for what not to do when writing a story/fanfic/show. I am working on a story(pen and paper) and as much trouble I am having brainstorming character/weapon ideas I know that my idea will never be as bad as HGS.😁
Never say never! (Wait)
@MrEverything70 You're probably right. Still you would think that the writers would use the delay to work on the show and iron out the kinks.😒
Same, I'm an artist, and I'm practicing on my writing skills cuz i suck at it.
@zeldaprincessgirl108 I suck at drawing too.😂
@@dragowolfraven3806 I'm decent at drawing (To my eyes, others say I'm very good), but not writing lol
The writters of High Guardian Spice did exactly the opposite George R. R. Martin did. Because he said he had a plan for the characters of Game of Thrones when he started, but he left the characters made their own choises and let them drive the story instead of forcing his previous plan on them.
I'm still a beginner as a writer, but I already felt this while writing fanfics. I never stop feeling fascinated when a character I planned to be A starts to become B for two reasons: 1- It's a great exercise for your as a writer and 2- This means your characters are gaining layers and becoming more human.
But wait. How do you write good character development like that without going too out of character. Cause I've already written 8 comics in one series but I still wonder if I written them too simple or too out of character?
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 I write some stories on websites, and I end up developing some of my characters, but I don't know how to delve into all the characters, without forgetting some of them.
And GOT sucks as too!
I suspect that Martin used something like the Burning Wheel RPG to generate his fiction.
They could have told Carraway, only to find out Carraway was a spy all along, and then the rest of the series he would be their nemesis bc the staff would believe him over some excitable students.
...but then that would mean the creator's self-insert (and their primary trans-representation) would end up being a bad guy, and we can't have that.
@@cartooncritique6625 exactly what I was about to comment
@@cartooncritique6625 could easily solve that by making shapeshifter evil guy already have replaced Calloway or something.
@@fdragon010 Yeah, but that would require more effort and thought than the writers put into this.
@@fdragon010 Woke people would still screech and call it transformer phobia because of “bury your gays” or something.
Want another example of stupidity?
Sage's mother, who was far more trusting of old magic than of new magic, sent her daughter to a school known for using new magic. Totally not going to be an issue.
This show is so fucking stupid, lol.
In the last episode, we see old magic users in that school. So, why there's no separated classes for them?
Actually, I think that might be the most realistic aspect of the show.
@@Keeki95 Hm? What do you mean?
@@chimanruler15 It's not uncommon in real life for people to send their kids off to colleges that teach a doctrine they are opposed to.
Usually happens because the parents are concerned their kids have a college education, but don't look into what colleges are teaching. Or it could be they want their child to attend their alma mater assuming it'll be the same as when they attended even though the administration and/or curriculum have changed.
@@Keeki95 Oh, okay. That makes sense.
“If you’re smart you can write a stupid character, but if you’re stupid you can’t write a smart character” - Me just now
My favorite brain dead moment is when Sage is upset with Rose for crushing on Aster. I watched that whole episode waiting to hear Sage's reason for her feelings and it never comes! How hard would have been to add the line, "Last time Rose crushed on a boy she nearly failed the fourth grade"?
@Brand of Sacrifice Not to mention that Aster wasn't even wrong. Rosemary WAS being stuck-up. He actually complimented her on her abilities, and she shut him down. Yeah, he made some thoughtless, sexist comments beforehand, but he wasn't trying to be mean. He just didn't know any better. Of course, that doesn't mean that he can't be called out on that crap, but doesn't the intent matter, too? Not according to HGS, apparently.
At the end of the day, people are human, and they have biases. What we should do is to help people overcome these biases, not stone them for having such attitudes. Sheesh.
@@chimanruler15 they really should've done a better job of villifying Aster if they wanted him to be a hate sink. Instead he comes off as harmless and dumb if mildly sexist. The thng that sets off Rose is due to a thing that Rose ehrselfdin't correct him on earlier.
@@sarafontanini7051 Exactly. The writers should have just made Aster a full-on jerk. That seemed to be what they were going for, anyway.
But, no, they couldn't even do that. This show fails at even the most basic use of tropes.
And, as you rightfully pointed out, Rose never even bothered to correct Aster whenever he got her name wrong. If she had been trying to correct him, only to fail, then her annoyance with him would have been more understandable, but that wasn't what happened.
I guess the writers forgot that Rose never corrected Aster. In fact, they seem to forget a lot of previously established things in the story, lol. Oops!
@@sarafontanini7051 He didn't even need to exist, Cal(?) already filled the role of the douche of the class, and is a recurring character, unlike Aster who appears once and is never seen again.
Rosemary could've had a crush on him at first, realize he's a jerk, they fight, and that'd also give him a reason to be spiteful for the rest of the show.
@@kou7191 This comment thread is already leagues ahead of the writers on this show
I'm glad that you pointed out why Thyme's demon summoning plan is hella stupid and impractical, that was something I really anticipated because I've pointed that out and explained it in my comments of some of your vids too. She could just go to Sage, Aloe and Anis, the ethics teacher lady etc if she really needs to have a portal summoned to make a phone with her dad about making artificial healing water.
And all in all, the entire plotline of HGS in general is just the definition of idiot plot, it's not even funny.
I can't wait for the abridged version of the demon summoning episode. Always have a way to send the demon back to its plane of existence.😉
Or better yet, she could have tried contacting her father in every way imaginable - letters, crystal balls, travelling, asking someone to deliver the message personally, travelling herself -, but all of these options fail somehow -the letters get intercepted, interference prevents crystal balls from working, the person she sends gets murdered, she herself nearly gets killed trying to travel. That way summoning the demon doesn't sound like a stupid idea, since it's literally the only thing she can try now!
That also gives her a reason to not want to tell the teachers - she doesn't know how she got intercepted every time she tried to contact her father, so she suspects one of the school staff members (or more) is a spy, and until they can figure out who it is, they can't reveal what they know to anyone, or else they could put themselves and others at risk.
This could also lead to a mini arc where the girls suspect the trans teacher, leading to the doppelganger battle as a climax!
This is just like Miraculous Ladybug, the story writes itself yet the writers find a way to screw it up royally!
I would have even brought that she decided to summon a demon because she's an edgy teen tbqh
@@deviousdelibird "it's not a phase dad!"
Hell why have her summon th demon at all? just have the bad guys do it, or the demon is already active and tries to manipualte her into helping him for reasons. That way you can still have the demon fight and not have Thyme be an idiot who thinks she should summon a demon to SEND A FUCKING PHONE CALL
Characters cannot be smarter than their writers. Honestly, I think these were the smartest characters the writers could create.
I mean, I get the joke in your comment but I don't agree with the premise. It doesn't take a genius to write a genius.
@@cam4636 what this means is that a character is only as smart as his actions are. Since every event and action is controlled by the author, thus means a character can only act as intelligent as the author can.
When you see a character being called a “genius” because they can invent a raygun or something, it’s usually complete nonsense when actually analyzed. So, it’s more like a super power, where a character can break reality, than being actual intelligence.
But if the character does something clever and understandable to overcome an obstacle, they just simply came up with that clever thing. In other words intelligence. Which the author must have as well, since they were the one who truly came up with it.
@@frankwest5388 Yeah but first, the author has much more time to think about these situations, and finfing solutions quickly is as important as finding them in the first place. And the author doesnt have to find solutions from limited information, they can come up with the result and then have the character come to that conclusion by making clues to lead them into it.
Loom at dr.stone or death note or breaking bad, all of those have characters with genius level intellect, superhuman intellect in the case of the first two. They are smarter than the writers, But the authors can write them because of all the advantages they have over the characters.
@@AquaIsUseless I would argue that that still falls under their statement that characters are only as smart as their writers can write.
That kind of storytelling can only be pulled off by an intelligent and clever writer. The writers character may be technically 'smarter' than they are but they only appear that way because of the writers ability to use the narrative to control how the audience percieves everything the character can do. Like @Frank West mentioned about the 'genius' characters that when actually analyzed dont hold up. The writer doesnt have the skills to properly hide the gaps.
So while writing smart characters because youre smart and writing smart characters because youre a good writer are two different skills they both still require a measure of experience to execute.
Me eating popcorn while watching you guys have the most sophisticated online argument I've seen so far
Another point about the "spies overhearing us" thing. Amaryllis literally made a sound canceling barrier, they could've done that but noooo!
And this is part of why I have rp'd out my world with a lot of folks. Helps me catch shit. "...Oh shit yeah this element ISN'T explained well in lore, time to figure out how it actually works!" "Oh yeah, this DOES break established things, what do I need to chance to fix it?"
I want to avoid the stupid by fixing it first
The worst bit of writing alone is having to come up with problems that you know how to fix. It's like telling jokes to yourself, you already know the punchline.
"We know she's supposed to be smart because her name is literally 'Sage.'"
If I'm remembering that episode with the healing water right, wasn't it also a succeed or fail task? Like, if Thyme was allowed to keep her healing water, couldn't she just, I don't know, *ask* Amaryllis or Snapdragon for theirs? They obviously didn't get kicked out for failing the mission. Or maybe ask one of the other students that we saw that were featured in the title screen. Oh, wait... No, those are just background mannequins that they placed randomly throughout the school. Great job guys, I'm sure those scarecrows will fend off the weird empty atmosphere that this supposedly bustling city has...
-Long off topic rant coming-
Honestly, budget or not, this show really doesn't want anyone to dare to upstage their precious main characters... Or even acknowledge that they technically fail their classes when given certain rules to tasks.
Like, shouldn't the teachers have noticed the main girls were missing in the caves, or that they came back after dark? Did they think they got scared too and abandoned the mission? Like, I would hope that there was a rescue search out looking for them...
Another example is the obstacle race where the teacher says that they can't use magic to make it through. Like, Snapdragon, Sage, and Amarryllis all failed. Even if they didn't want to upset their precious Sage, I thought for sure that they would tell off Amarryllis for that clique bully take down satisfaction... They don't even stroke the ego of the main characters when they do succeed in their classes, for that audience projection aspect that I thought was why the magic school setting was so popular. Get kudos from your favorite teachers and all... It really just solidifies that this show really didn't need to have the school setting if they just wanted wacky magic adventures with no logic.
I thought they needed to hand the healing water over and Thyme just stole some of it. That is why the hole they made in the cave has already been sealed.
Of course that does not explain why Thyme took only one vial when there was a whole pool of it. Or just, you know, told the teachers. The evidence for her story is in walking distance of the school.
3:30
So, it isn't like the writers wanted the characters to be stupid (this actually could be good). It's actually: "writers want characters to do A or B, ignoring completely that the most proper in-character choice would be do C"
This is far worse. This is a very ammateurish mistake. Even people on their first big production wouldn't make this mistake, and even if they did, at the very moment they got a negative feedback, they certainly would police themselves to not make this mistake again.
they should have just approached the door spell like apperation in Harry Potter, it's very advancded magic that can have disastrous consequences if done wrong and many places have spells preventing it for security reasons. JK rowling's magic system might have a lot of holes but God dammit at least she thought of that.
Or they could've had a rule that portals need prep time to connect the two spots so you can't just open them willy-nilly. (this would still let the teacher use a portal to hand out the assignments for the cave trip since it'd make sense to have a portal linking the testing ground to the school)
Funny thing about demon-killing as far as fantasy and rpg rules apply: Demons are only banished back to their home plane when they die in the material plane. Who's to say that if, Gods forbid, we get a second season, and the demon comes back for Round 2 with the Triumvirate's backing?
D&D/Pathfinder makes this pretty clear as you have to go the Abyss/Hell to truly kill a demon or devil.
@@dragowolfraven3806 Yep, and all it takes is a dice roll and/or some high-powered sacrificial spells/gates/artifacts to see how long they stay banished. Never a question of "If" but "when" with Devils and Demons.
Yep. A century is nothing to a demon or devil.
I'd be surprised if these writers ever played an RPG, let alone know the rules.
In some settings, turnabout is fair play, and demons can only banish you when you invade their plane. (In Skyrim, Hermaeas Mora can only banish you because you've only been summoned to Apocraphea. Mirak and dragons can absorb your soul, though. Dragon soul things.)
The only plus I can give this show is that it was so poorly done I was inspired to rewrite the whole thing.
Good luck.
Also want the link when you're done
Same
Then you have Zinnia, who sees everything happening at the academy and decides to go home.
I have read some dumbassery, there was a story where one of main character's best friends were in life threatening danger and their "fantastic and very smart plan" was to sit outside, drink lemonade, and bitch about the ice melting.
HGS characters might seem smarter than that, but they probably aren't. They don't see obvious answers to their problems, they don't try harder than the first attempt, and they forget basic information five seconds after learning it. Remember when Parsley's great way to have her friend get a trophy was to hurt another student? Instead of.... giving it to him. Or how Thyme decided summoning a demon was the best way to contact her dad instead of.... I don't know, magic, pigeons, do they have phones? Or how all the teachers seem to not know what they're teaching.
I could list every dumb move the characters make but we would be here all day. It's not funny or cute, it's annoying and frustrating.
agree
I kind of want to read the first story about the lemonade lol
I feel like the main character has a secret grudge against the best friend-
You can’t just say that story exists and not give the sauce.
"budget cant buy common sense."
true. if it could, Kenobi wouldn't exist.
Is stupid a food?
No Patrick stupid is not a food.
Might explain Rosemary. After all, you are what you eat.
Yes, and that's what the writers eat
You are what you eat after all.
If only. It'd solve world hunger.
When you mentioned that they purposely make the characters stupid in order for something to happen, it reminds me that some other shows do this, too. Where they show a character being able to do something, but in the next few episodes they're unable to do said thing. All because they made them stupid just for the sake of the plot. That's one of my pet peeves in animated shows.
Did Thyme or the other main girls ever investigate how and what Neppycat used to 'fix' the rot on a tree? That apparently, healing water isn't the only way to do it.
I for one, think the intelligence of the self-insert characters accurately reflects the people they were based on.
Having a dragon show up in your scene at the cost of character intelligence because you just want that goddamn dragon has the same energy as D&D saying "Goddamnit, we want a zombie polar bear" and ruining characters' intelligence to make that happen.
13:42:
Dave: the teachers are stupid, the students are stupid, the villains are stupid...is there any other stupid i need to know??
The mfs who approved the pitch for this project: hello
(Man, this just makes me think of that spongebob scene where the fish lady gets pissed off after asking for squidward several times LOL)
Hey! Remember in Avatar the secret tunnel was a maze that constantly changed because giant badger-moles? Or in Labyrinth, it's pointed out that the Labyrinth also shifts and changes? That's like fantasy cave magic writing 101 that could have easily explained why Tyme couldn't get more healing water from the Spirit Oasis. Imagine if the writers show her going down to the hole, only for giant crystals having grown and blocking it. Or a 1-minute montage scene of her exploring the cave and finding out the spring tends to move and its possible it's in a different cave system all together. Then summoning a demon out of last-ditch desperation might make more narrative sense.
4:27 OMG I just noticed this wahahaha look at sage's sleeve 😂😂
Something else when it comes to Rose and Sage. We got how stupid they are. But why is their friendship seem so rotten. Not to mention does anyone else remember how much male characters are treated like dirt.
It does seem to eb quite problematic, and yeah there's like two likeable male characters of any notability if that.
What if olive wasn’t introduced as an antagonist but as a student and befriended the main characters then they get proof that there is a spy in the school but they don’t know who it is it will keep the audience in suspense and put the characters in a position where they can’t trust anyone not even the teachers and then boom olive is revealed as the spy emotional blow to both the characters and audience
What could've been fun is if Sage needed materials to do a ritual or sumthn because she isn't skilled enough or mature enough to use the portal spell easily, and so everyone goes out exploring the cave to find the needed materials, and then there can be a suspenseful scene during the ritual where Sage is struggling or the spell is so taxing it hurts her, and then everyone can help her by like, idk smthn or even the power of friendship and encouragement. But idk if this is good since I came up with most of it whilst I was writing this comment sooo
I’m glad this anime exists, it taught me a lot of things I shouldn’t do😭
I wouldn't call it anime because of several reasons lol 🤠🔫
But yeah you are right it is the exact sample of what not to do it doesn't have even ONE example of good writing like WTH 😭😭
The more I watch these videos and find out about some flaws I didn't even notice at first I start loving the show. I have no idea why. The more stupid mistakes I see just make me hope that somehow this show gets a 2nd season and somehow gets better. I unironically want the show to magically disappear and come back with good writing and more interesting, actually explored characters.
There’s definitely an alternate timeline in which this show was good. Unfortunately thats not the one we live in
It is getting in fact a second season lol
@@therobens22 its not
@@therobens22 Trust me, it’s not.
bro fell for the joke
"Characters who are supposed to be smart but makes really dumb decisions because of bad writing."
This sounded hilarious if I didn't realize that well-beloved franchises like Danganronpa and old Fire Emblem are also guilty of this exact thing.
Danganronpa has some inconsistencies but they are nowhere near the level of HGS fortunately
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@@snaek2594I mean to be fair, if you were japanese you wouldn't think that "Oh, this is clearly upside down english letters!"
Honestly this show actually has a very great premise and ideas. Which sadly were executed in the WORST way imaginable.
It can still be fixed tho! All they have to do is:
1-give it another studio probably
2-Have them redo the entirety of season 1
3-fix the animation
4-fix most of the voice acting or casting
5-fix the story
6-fix the characters
7-just air it and let us enjoy something that is actually GOOD.
So basically make it a completely different show, accurate
@@KiiBon oooor go and watch RWBY, Little witch Academia or My Hero Academia Instead.
@@psychogamer7213 watched all three of those and definitely prefer all of them
Parnell*jumps into pit* Parsley: What the hell is wrong with you? Parnell:I don't fear death. Parsley:Oookay*backs away from him scared*
Parnell: “I don’t believe in Oblivion.”
Molag and Dagon: “U Fockin Wot?”
Parnell: the void calls to me Sage. it calls for us alllll.
These characters finally make me feel represented!
It's so easy to nerf portals and make them unavailable when they want to escape the cave.
The cave magic makes portals unstable so you can't make one.
OR
Just say that you have to set the end point up in advance and you're not allowed to do that at school because they don't want random portal runes left everywhere. It makes security into Swiss cheese when students can't secure their portals correctly.
The people who write South Park did a writing advice panel or something like that and in it they said "The Beats of a story should be, this happens and then this happens because that happened, your story shouldn't be, this happened and then this happened and then this happened"
When the character who's only personality trait is "danger to herself and others" is the smartest character in the show
Also Thyme did the demon summon wrong, like she read a leaflet on how to do it and that's it.
1. Unless your using the demon as an attack beast you want to summon it in the salt circle and be outside the circle, Thyme basically let it loose on the world and was lucky it didn't just run off to murder children.
2. Unless you literally don't have time to do it you need to make the salt circle harder to break then decadently kicking it, she just made it without digging it into the ground.
3. Know exactly what you want to say and do before hand and don't deviate, she panicked and didn't know what to do.
4. Know how to kill and or banish it if things go wrong which they do more often then not, not only did she not know how to banish it she also didn't bring a demon slaying weapon.
And wasn’t Thyme’s whole demon summoning story for the sole purpose of having a parallel to a ghost story that the girls were telling? Not only did the episode break Thyme’s character but it was all just filler too 😭
Time has a bad case of "Kim possible moustache". I legitimately keep thinking that she's constantly smiling.🤣
I think a cool limitation for some stuff is race-locking or have different kinds of magic like happends in games. For example have portal magic but only DEMONS can use them or highly studied people on demon magic and it's still draining AF since it's a DARK magic, that way you have portals that can make interesting things happening and used as more mundane spells by the demon teacher yet inaccesible for Sage and most of the low level magic users in school and the world over all to easily escape difficult situations.
Also explaining the necessity of Thyme to summon a DEMON to open a portal and talk with her dad, which it's still kinda stupid but at least makes sense why it can't be anything else than a demon.
I would honestly use these to show other people what never to do. And then use the creator’s reaction to the backlash also what not to do.
Everything but the writing can be blamed on budget. Unless you ran out of money to hire someone competent to either supervise you or write the script.
No rosemary would just intimidate and perform cannibalism on the demon
Dude that's a spoiler
Rose Mary Sue being half demon half angel princess of the ancient secret ROYGBIV kingdom
Geez People Don't Give A Care About Spoiling Others 😤
with how simple it was to ask the demon teacher that Thyme already saw how she opened multiple portals easily
Do all new magic users have the power to open portals? Or just those that are married to hot elfs-that -use-old-magic -ADN -have their magic fussed with said elfs because of the power of love or something?
Anise makes one alone by flicking her wrist, and the demon teacher can make them whenever she wants
Appreciate the tf2 references in this video, your videos never disappoint (:
how they could have had the dragon-
someone--were trapped, we need a way out
Thyme-Sage, can you make a portal?
Sage- I mean i can try but-
Rosemary- No time! (drops the dragon egg)
Sage-Oh no, how could you do that?
Rosemary-What? Im trying to get us out
someone-yeah well now were stuck and cant get out and we have a dragon that willl attack us
Rosemary-oh no, well sage, can you still do the portal spell?
Sage-Well i can try but-ugh
(dragon hatches or whatever)
Rosemary-quick ,sage do the spell
Sage-ahh i can i havnt done it and i need to concertrate
Someone-ok well lets see if we can work with the dragon
(scene continues as normal)
The dumbest thing that shows how dumb the writers are is calling the two systems of magic, old magic and new magic, while not explaining what the difference is most likely because they didn't think that far.
They didn't even explained what a guardian is, and what is their duties..
The Death Note music at the end is weirdly fitting for all of this
I’d like to add that even intelligent people can make stupid flukes from time to time but when it’s this badly inconsistent with no basis of explanation it’s bad
Like for example a normally smart character does something stupid because time is being pressed against them too soon for them to think things through like they usually do
I think you're giving them way too much credit to say they want certain story beats to work. Because it really feels like no thought process has been given. Stuff just happens for no reason, or it looks cool or quirky.
The dragon stuff feels like something they pull out from thin air. It is so inorganic to the plot, that particular writer really must have no proper solution to that situation and so pull the biggest WTF moment in this show
This is what happens when you have so much writers working on 1 show, a show with only 12 episodes. Nothing is ever consistent.
This really feels like something you see from wattpad
@DanielStalwart Wattpad writers can do a better job than the writers of HGS.😂
As a Wattpad writer who has seen some of the horrors that come from that app, you're still giving HGS way too much credit by calling it a Wattpad fic
I keep hearing about this "low budget" but I litterally can't find the exact number anywhere, it would be funny if they actually had a normal budget but needed a excuse to say why it was so bad.
According to research done by the RUclipsr daft pina the show had a budget of over 200k per episode
@@guardianHQ correct me if im wrong, but that feels reasonable even tho its low compared to big shows. But then again HGS isnt a big show.
If I were a person investing in the show I won’t give them big show budget either, they’d wait to see how much success you can get with that little first
13:40 the commentary along with the scenes of students randomly hitting stuff was hilarious xDDDDDDDDDDDD
my stories magical world instant travel is basically a secret and requires a lot of prep work. in this world it seems to be super casual but forgettable? how is it forgettable if its so common?
The writer didn't have the budget of intelligence to care, almost to the point it feels passive-aggressive
You could have artifact gates?
I’m guessing I was the one who said if you were gonna make a video on the characters.
Or was that someone else, either way. I love your analysis of this show.
Yep
Seeing you use The N00b Adventures for that split second just brought me back to my childhood
Noob adventures was also my childhood
I’m glad we both had good childhoods
Some part of me feels like the spy description was basically... well not a translation error because english is the original language but the equivalent. With the intended meaning being more like "If they see that we're making moves that might spook them into doing something"
Honestly your videos and lobster hero videos can easily be shown in story telling classes on how not to make a story, character, world building, etc
Snapdragon is another character made to be a moron just to drive the plot, and he's quite a level headed person in this entire series. In Ep 11, the entire plot point of snap beating the shit out of Cal and then that transition talk with caraway all started because he had to say that one line about 'it being peaceful on the water'. I swear to god that made me so angry, I was rolling. Why would he willingly say that for Cal to hear, who is known to be a transphobe and a bully. Why can't it be Cal that's taunting him. Why must Snap sit in that position? Let's face it, it was Snap who instigated that fight. Either he's a moron or he's just a psychopath.
In my headcanon (psychopath); he, on the boat purposely sat in a suggestive position in front of Cal and spoke that one moronic line to bait Cal into taunting him so Snap could initiate a fight. That was what he planned and it work, getting him reprimanded.
Caraway wanted to give snap a chance, but this was all in snap's psychotic plans to be near him. Snap didn't care if he was going to be suspended, as long as he hears validation of transitioning from the one teacher who used transition magic. And it was all that mattered
The triad who accessed him with their mind's eye, actually sensed his psychotic plans to bait that fight. So they justified his suspension because they concluded Snap was the malicious one here, not Cal.
The moron path is just Snap being stupid and getting out of character to drive the plot.
I think I prefer the (psycho) path. It's dark and twisted human psyche.
These characters seem high int, and negative wis. All I can think is that the writers are operating on assumed kid logic when real kids are smarter than this
Nono. They are high Constitution, low int and wis.
I could hear this guy rant for hours
The rot destroying the woods reaaally reminds me of Grow: Song of the Evertree. Like, even the colour of the rot looks the same lol
5:05 "the writers forgot that the characters can do certain things". it is more common that people think. i read in an article that when the concept of sayans transforming into super sayans and their hair turning yellow was introduced, the creator of dragon ball was asked in an interview if the concept had any relation with launch, a previous main character whose hair turned yellow and her personality changed when she sneezed. she stooped showing up on the story altogether so people assumed that her disappearance had something to do with this new plot, some even speculating she could had been an undercover sayan that was watching over goku while growing up. but nop, he stopped using her because he literally forgot she was a character and forgot her powers, they had no relation whatsoever. HE FORGOT ABOUT A CHARACTER THAT FOR A TIME WAS PART OF THE MAIN CAST.
Well I wouldn't say Launch was ever part of the main cast. She was a groupie. She was never important to the story which is how the writer was able to forget her.
Love the sims 4 background music, it totally didn't give a panic attack thinking my games mute button broke!!!!❤❤❤
7:56 not to mention she summoned it wrong. The daemon was supposed to be INSIDE the circle, ya know, so that u can control it and make it do ur bidding.
Her dumba55 put herself in the circle instead, leaving the creature to run about freely and she had ZERO leverage to control it! 🤡🤡🤡🤡
7:09
Let's not forget that they STILL haven't (to the best of my memory) told ANY of the teachers or ANYONE about the rot. Carroway could take them to the water if they're worried about monsters. Hell, tell Dretch. She can portal you down there and back. They act like they're the only ones who can stop the rot and they have to go it alone, but they never even TRIED to ask for help.
EDIT: You did get to that. I hadn't watched it all the way through yet, but I'm glad we came to the same conclusion.
With regarding with setting up a portal, like you said; we just assume that everyone can.
The writers could have made Sage create a portal, though they could have thought that "Sage just got her terrasphere. She can't create a portal (even though it's a very possible thing to do; even a 5 year old can do it)." Though again, none of this is explained, but it could be something that they thought of behind the scenes.
What makes it even more stupid is even with this explanation, it just doesn't add up. The writers will just throw whatever they want whenever they fell like it. 0 ~ 0 That's why all this is a bit frustrating, and further explains why they really just want to make the characters "stupid" just for the sake of story progression.
I really do enjoy your videos though! My take isn't really backed, but though I'd throw that in there. High Guardian Spice is such a strange series.
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The scene at 9:52 is the first and only smart decision that the cast of this garbage fire has. Too bad nothing is done with it.😒
I am re-working on a story with a friend. She made the same mistake of using portals anytime of the day with no consequences and adding random things in there just because it seemed cool...but we were High School kids. We are in our thirties now and we pretty much cringe at the mistakes we had made in the past. And it makes me wonder why these writers can think no better than a High Schooler when the creator is around our age.
i just subscribed and this kind of video is really helping me for my high guardian spice rewrite
It's simple: the characters are only as smart as their writers... Which in this case, even the smartest one is a complete dunce lol Says a lot about the writing crew over there
They took John D Rockefeller's quote as advice: "I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers".
I'm from Brazil, could you please turn on the subtitles so I can better understand the video?
thank you so much for these videos! i am currently writing a story and your videos inspire me to fuck up ig? yeah i couldve been watching videos like «how to write a good story and not fuck up the time travelling thing» BUT yours are so much more interesting! when i first started watching your videos it was tyat one about caraway telling rosemary that he's trans and i was cautious about this video being transphobic but when ut didn't turn out that way i was really grateful! also love your abridged series! thank you for your videos once again
Music from the Sims 4 in the background
I'd love to see this series get a re-write
I genuinely like the sims music you use on these videos lol
I'm looking back on these videos and I wanted to say that they really help me with my writing by fixing my plotholes and unnecessary flaws. Thank you :)
God damn. Hit me with the nostalgia at 10:00
A wise man once said great continuity
6:59 "when you step on a lego"
Are morons a food?
I like that you reference the I-Land, another show that also has horrendously stupid characters
Is your background music the sims woohoo music?!?!?
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Is logic a food
I've heard you can only write make characters as smart as you are, that's why all my work is only three stooges like
Sims music in the background made this vid even more special 😅
While it's not an overly good series, if you read the In Another World With My Smartphone Series the MC gets a gate ability that allows him to use portals with only a handful of limitations. He abuses this ability LIBERALLY! Villain's immune to magical and physical damage? Use a portal to drop him into a container with the stinkiest thing in the world. Golems made of mithril being hard to deal with? Teleport them straight up and let terminal velocity do most of the damage for you. The only reason he doesn't abuse it more is that he has about a half dozen other spells he abuses the fuck out of.
i swear every time they add some new magical thing they can do it's already shown the terrasphere can do it like-
you know its funny, i day dream at work a lot (and i mean a lot) and have had brain stories that i've mapped out if i were to pitch it or make it a series. And even in my head if i think of something new or cool, i also think "how would that fit or work with everything else i've already put in?". In short, the framework of your main story should be able to support everything you put on it, on not the other way around.
Imagine if Sage couldn’t use portals in the cave, she tries and tries and even with inspiration from her friends she can’t, opening in ark where she’s unsure of her magical abilities and actually grows as a character leading to a triumphant moment in a later episode where she finally manages to make a portal yeah it’s probably very cliché but it’s better than what we got
I just realized..."parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme" were they named after lyrics from Scarborough Fair??
12:53 “hey get that guy.” Will now live in my head till the day I perish.
I don't even watch this show, hadn't even heard of it, but I still love all these videos.