I don’t think the A Rafters change is about Rafters specifically - think it’s designed to remove the potential crossfire underneath in retake situations.
As an omen main if u smoke off nest it can create a weird gap at the end of the rafters for an op to hide removing the end of rafters gets ride of the weird fight
I can see these leaks being true, but also maybe a bit changed as this may have been in the early stages, cause, contrary to what people believe, the map is just an image and it doesn't actually interact with the in-game map at all, just your player coordinates in it. (Meaning they plan out what they want to do to the map drawing on the minimap, then proceed in-game)
The opposite of whats needed. The problem is the ability to plant and run back where you came from. We need to encourage taking and holding the bombsite. Not shooting through smokes from afar.
Seems to be a universal issue in Valorant. It'd be okay if a few maps had the problem but in almost every one you can find a spot to hide in and throw lineups or a long angle to just hold bomb
honestly i want them to push the planting site a little more to the right so the attackers actually need to plant "inside" the side instead of the very edge only (same problem with pearl B site)
The core principal of the map is flawed. It going to took them long time to fix it. Because they want good range fight that is rewarding but the gun econ is valo does not support that. You got no long range cheap weapon. It just goes marshal showdown and its not fun. And when any character util cant even fill any gap perfectly, its flawed. And when a map only have 1 gun that viable its also flawed. And getting control on anything in breeze didnt really matter because you will just fight in the site. Why watch mid when theycan just walk thru double door? No reason mid exist. And the only other watchable spot is the long mid. Like the design philosophy of that map is really odd
i thought they made it to where you wouldnt shoot through that gap in B. You can see it but i dont think you could shoot through it for like the last few months of icebox's life.
Doesn’t fix the fact that mid is completely dead, and it will still be super one dimensional group up go A or B map. No clue why people tried to pretend Breeze was a bigger problem back when split was coming back 💀💀
While B site is way easier for defence they seem to have given A site more attacker advantage with all the vertical angles. And little pop ups. Wouldnt these changes make it even more of a rush A style with viper lurking mid , still making icebox, even arguably more than before, attack sided? I feel like its gonna be like B Site pearl
I don’t think the A Rafters change is about Rafters specifically - think it’s designed to remove the potential crossfire underneath in retake situations.
Guess we’ll just have to wait and see!
As an omen main if u smoke off nest it can create a weird gap at the end of the rafters for an op to hide removing the end of rafters gets ride of the weird fight
Could also be trying to elimate a jett/chamber op angle.
It could be a ramp to let u get up easier and faster
I can see these leaks being true, but also maybe a bit changed as this may have been in the early stages, cause, contrary to what people believe, the map is just an image and it doesn't actually interact with the in-game map at all, just your player coordinates in it. (Meaning they plan out what they want to do to the map drawing on the minimap, then proceed in-game)
The opposite of whats needed. The problem is the ability to plant and run back where you came from. We need to encourage taking and holding the bombsite. Not shooting through smokes from afar.
Seems to be a universal issue in Valorant. It'd be okay if a few maps had the problem but in almost every one you can find a spot to hide in and throw lineups or a long angle to just hold bomb
honestly i want them to push the planting site a little more to the right so the attackers actually need to plant "inside" the side instead of the very edge only (same problem with pearl B site)
Btw why don't you ever hear about Breeze or what they're doing with it? It feels like it's been out of the map pool longer than anything else
The core principal of the map is flawed. It going to took them long time to fix it. Because they want good range fight that is rewarding but the gun econ is valo does not support that. You got no long range cheap weapon. It just goes marshal showdown and its not fun. And when any character util cant even fill any gap perfectly, its flawed. And when a map only have 1 gun that viable its also flawed. And getting control on anything in breeze didnt really matter because you will just fight in the site. Why watch mid when theycan just walk thru double door? No reason mid exist. And the only other watchable spot is the long mid. Like the design philosophy of that map is really odd
@@CuteLittleLily boooo marshal vandal op map is fun
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i like how the a site box always seems to get changed every time we look at icebox
Defending side has gotten a buff
I saw these map leaks almost a week after the map was removed so I'm curious how true it is.
New Icebox might be very interesting
wait so does this mean icebox is coming back soon?
There’s nothing official yet
@@AcendClub oh ok good to know i hav enever had a famous ytber reply to me! :D
3:31 then it's not a lurk anymore. It's a common angle
yoru tp from mid to snowman now : p
Oh no😅
I had 100% wr on icebox before, hopefully should be even more free now
Game really be getting rid of my best win rate maps but ig maybe that doesn’t matter after all since I’m still 70% win rate
i thought they made it to where you wouldnt shoot through that gap in B. You can see it but i dont think you could shoot through it for like the last few months of icebox's life.
Nothing is finalised yet, these are just leaks. So maybe they make it not spammable.
oh let's just add a box in B site so we can be EVEN more spammed and getting util thrown at when """Trying"""" to defuse
Maybe they’re going to change it for the final version.
@@AcendClub hopefully, it's still on a editing stage so🤷♂️ the bridge from ct to B sounds pretty good, thank you for the video ^^
this didn't need to be 10min lmao
mid tube looks like it could be a rope maybe?
Could be
They keep adding and removing that box on A site XD
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Doesn’t fix the fact that mid is completely dead, and it will still be super one dimensional group up go A or B map. No clue why people tried to pretend Breeze was a bigger problem back when split was coming back 💀💀
Maybe they’ll bring in more changes until release
Interesting video! 💖😗
While B site is way easier for defence they seem to have given A site more attacker advantage with all the vertical angles. And little pop ups.
Wouldnt these changes make it even more of a rush A style with viper lurking mid , still making icebox, even arguably more than before, attack sided?
I feel like its gonna be like B Site pearl
Fair point, we’ll just have to wait and see how the final version looks like