@@FrostByte_06 It depends on how much defense he starts the fight with and how much defense his super will give him. He can get close to 200k extra defense with 2 super currently so the best case scenario is that they give him damage reduction for the fights that blitz your entire hp bar right away.
@@thotbeater697 thats a cap. If you build him up he starts with over 500k defense and gets 50% on his 18 ki and 12 ki. So he gets close to 1 mil so no you wrong bro
@@thotbeater697 thats a cap. If you build him up he starts with over 500k defense and gets 50% on his 18 ki and 12 ki. So he gets close to 1 mil so no you wrong bro
Ever since Mr.Beast disclosed how much he made on X from a post, it seems like the bait was gotten WILDER. Aba and Preach made a video about the Bait levels on X becoming nuclear 😭
@@abundanceanako1751that’s the funny thing about it all, yea that would be good, though it makes for good content for creators to talk about. Thus continuing the cycle
I feel ya. I'm on global so fingers crossed it doesn't happen with beast but I went 23 featured units without GT Duo or teq Vegito Blue and ended up red coining the GT duo
@@jacksknight it really sucks getting none of the characters u want 😂 My Tur Blue Goku and Vegeta (Lr VB) is 79% right now just sitting in my box. Somehow managed to pull 6 of them so maybe thatll happen in wwdc with beast 😅
It’s so funny to me that people hate gohan so much because whether it’s the show, in a movie, in literally and game gohan has always been and will always be MY GOAT. So being global player and watching beast gohan being so insane when he dropped was just a treat I can’t wait for ani in July
Pretty much this. Post intro he can live trunks/gogeta sa easily. Big damage sure but he lives. Plus u have taunt in the back pocket for him & it also acts as a shield. You also get to do damage that turn instead of a turn with 0 damage because slot 1 died & u revived. Ssbe & others have far more instances where they can get caught. Also, once we see hard hitting early bosses (game will get there it’s powercreep), ssbe will be relegated to slot 2 & the 5 hits will get harder & harder to get
@@casteanpreswyn7528Beast isn't getting power crept this year They aren't realsing a fight like that before 10th ani Beast can have 80% dr with gaurd and over 600k deffence without even considering his taunt Get out of the delusion
@@ultraboost489 at least beast did something, rage trunks not only had zero buildup or foreshadowing it ultimately gave him half an episode of spotlight and nothing else
@@casteanpreswyn7528 “literal years” Lol. Well when you find it lmk I’m not gonna sit here and act like beast had ui goku levels of foreshadowing but gohan is quoted saying in super he wants to achieve a form no one else has. That’s something at least, I have my own gripes about the form but it iz wat it iz
Cold take: truth one of the best Dokkan RUclipsrs and Dokkan wouldn’t be as fun or covered as much without him 🫡 Now that the glaze is over 8th anni world tour when?
14:37 They got brought up to blue level and then 17 did stuff in TOP while Gohan was still completely worthless. Gohan is far and away the most frustratingly written character in the entire series, He has exactly 2 modes. Worthless or Stronger than everyone else just because. Even when they do snap their fingers and bring everyone up to speed they still end up being useless at the end of the day. Dragon Ball is still a two man show none of the power boosts matter at all.
The guy trying to claim Cooler has always been better than TEQ Ulthan is crazy. Yeah people mention Cooler a lot, but you know who can still be barely ran in current content...without an EZA...? TEQ Ulthan THE BOY. His EZA cannot be fumbled, all he needs is stat increases and he's going to fuck.
We gotta normalize not making Truths words law. He’s got a whaled account which isn’t realistic play for most. The game is totally different from ftp to whales.
@@iheal2much729 Those videos are not extensive in the slightest, he barely looks at them in a few stages and then goes straight to rainbow and the world tour.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 he doesn’t need too the 55% unit is what they is in every major event the rainbow lvl 10 link world tour is more important cuz it shows them under every condition possible
@@iheal2much729 Doesn't your initial logic that a 55% unit is what they are in every major event also just straight up apply to 100% units? Where's the difference?
You Should do a most anticipated eza for this year video and see how good they would be based on their kits like for example the Gt Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta
I feel like WWDC units lose value quickest due to falling off faster than most other units, except maybe for Future Gohan, either because they get no help or a new meta comes out within 2-3 months.
Quick tip for the calculator. If you want to make it a counter, all you have to do is click 1 and + and then the equal sign everytime you want to increment the count by 1.
Not gonna lie, since you are the God of Dokkan, seeing videos like this are a very nice addition to the standard Dokkan that we see from everyone. I like this kind of different content. Great vid.
"You don't need damage." Not true when you have Beast Gohan fight who needs to do enough damage in order to actually hurt him, otherwise he just nullifies any attacks thrown at him. And knowing how things will go, we'll get more bosses later on whether it's Saiyan Day, WWDC, 10th Anniversary, etc. and we'll get more bosses that nullify even higher numbers of damage dealt. Yes, it's preferable to have better defense than offense, but it can't just all be defense.
IDK about the 7th anni not being as loved if it was same time. I started Dokkan like a month before 7th anni and while yes it took like a month after 7th anni to just beat Broly, I still loved and enjoyed all of it. Cool characters, awesome EZAs, interesting gimmicks with locking for Boujack, debuffing and slot 3 supers with Omega, absorbing Ki blast supers with Super 17, long ass fight with the Shadow Dragons, and of course the AoE and double supering for Broly. I enjoyed it cus while it could be frustrating, it kept me on my toes the entire fight and I felt such an accomplishment to beat it. To be fair tho this happens for most fights. My first win on Cell Max, MCC, and Fusion Zamasu I felt the same way. Double for the no items as well.
I don't think people understand how hard it is to make beast gohan look bad , like you got to completely go out of your way to do so Im not sayin evo vegeta has gotten me killed but it exists and its much easier to do so I think the thing is people run units always on their best and juiced setups
“I dont want dbs characters waiting for goku” Bog goku literally has to save everyone from destruction Rof z fighterz wait for goku U6 v u7 goku is the only person to win multiple matches besides vegeta Gb arc trunks asks goku for help Top goku literally hogs most of the screentime
Sometimes Truth confuses me so much "The 7th year anniversary would be WAYYYY less loved if it was Global and JP at the same time. Anyway, it's a GOOD THING that Global and JP are syncing together!"
beast is number 1 no one says the opposite but he is not some untoucable god after his intro runs out and you can only use his active once and you dont always get to hold it tll the hardest portion of the fight game is rng and rng happens i saw beast out right killed by sbs blue gogeta trunks and beast multiple times i saw him take literal million damage too cuz rng went the wrong way so there is no canyon between him and vegeta the gap is way smaller than you think but still beast is undisputed number 1
Also Teq Ultimate Gohan I didn’t strongly like cause I felt like something was off about him and whenever I used him he often didn’t build up as fast as he did for other people and YES I kept him in rotation regularly slot 1-2; but Lr Beasthan feels just so good now
he’s not wrong i never use him on super hero anymore , at 55% lv 10 links he provides no damage and his active i dnt need to use because I have 3 other 3 units who can protect the team better. Its a valid point
@@CJ-wd7pb He may have low damage output but he ain’t doin nothin. Aside from that tho the boy does so much more than that and still defensively isn’t exactly what I’d call bad. The giant form is still the best of its kind and always helpful to have around so let’s not discredit that, he gives the team ki when he’s hit which is a small but noteworthy ability, if you have beast you can attack break which is objectively good, his big heal and extra damage reduction may be difficult to achieve but there’s longer content now that makes it possible, and he has a stun which can’t be used in most of the current content but at least in cell max later on it can be used and that could be very helpful.
I destroyed both Beast and Gogeta with a 8th anniversary team 55% units and no items. Double GT duo, they are still unbelievable. Their downplay is insane
28:18 All the takes were definitely something, but THIS TAKE WITH FUTURE GOHAN, NAH BRO, HE WAS EASILY THE BEST ONE BACK THEN. Merged Zamasu is better now, but I still love LR STR Futurehan. Maybe this is a bit bias cause he was my first carnival LR on global, but I still think he can be good and useful in some ways.
Ok Truth is the reason why I hate Super with that dumbass take. I want hands with good writing and good powerscaling or at least frigging try. This is why I enjoy the manga more then the anime. Even though the Beast shit and wishing for power is still just dumb.
33:45 im sorry but this is just wrong. Sure, SOME peopke had those units. Nit enough for it to make that level of difference. Everyone was saving for the 7th year lrs to play with their teams, relatively few took the luxory of summoning on other banners and actually getting those units. Especially ginyu where you needed him and both banner units, or pull the banner units during the uth anni if you were lucky.
Beast does have pretty lack luster animations though, and he's missing things like a counter or nullification. The fan made animation of beast is 100x better
@@grimgiant3378 by all means have fun with that. But DB is capable of it in its own way. At least it used to be. It doesn't have to be one or the other
beast is 1 and vegeta is 2 and they belong in the same tier and i see no reason why they shouldn't be. Vegeta's revive is easy to get in the current landscape of the game, and essentially after 1 or 2 hits hes tanking the same as beast. His revive is also better than beast's taunt. If leaderskill isn't included then the gap really aint all that
If you guys didn’t want Beast as the strongest unit in the game then who? Dodoria? Raditz? Tree of Might Goku? Let’s stop with the memes and actually play the game here… Wait until Global players actually pull him, their tunes will change. So quick to judge than to accept
Listen they not wasn’t gonna give us teq ultimate gohan’s eza all this time because they know once they do it’s pretty much a wrap for any tier list… that’s why they’re waiting for the meta to get to a point even him now will get one shot even after a stacked super from a normal attack 💯 which might be now but even now if he eza he is without a doubt gonna be better than most things that release after him 💯
My personal hot take is buutenks being best EZA of 9th anni. Dude pretty much cant be replaced on extreme teams, performs awesome and wont let you down. Has a very good team with android 21 and can perfectly run with her on rotation. Now fight me because i could careless about all those saiyans for a while.
I don’t agree, while he may be the most important or impactful helping villains, evolution blue vegeta and ui are individually stronger, along with their revives. Buutenks being busted mattered more however.
You know for a fact that what you just claimed could be easily disproven by the fact that SSBE exists which is why you said you couldn't care less about the Saiyans.
1:36 “they don’t have high end tanking abilities anymore” they tank better then most units u put above them on ur gosh awful tier list, they’ve aged much better then bulma or future gohan by a landslide
So the reason for people's obsession with damage is that in most super hard fights the AVERAGE player has to do the final phase (or some other trouble phase) under the Whis item or they lose. High damage is the difference between a phase taking 2-3 turns or 4-5 and most player teams that are rocking 55% units are taking damage from Normals outside of Whis, so being able to kill within that period is important. That's why people say dodge is a luxury to whales, because they can afford to forgo crit most of the time because of the higher stats. Not saying that this is completely true but it is a factor.
But at the same time, that also means defense is better than offense since you need the defense from the Whis item in order to survive to do damage. You just admitted you need defense and why obsessing over damage is strange
@@StarNameKev . . . When did I say that Defense wasn't better than offense lol? I was just stating why Crit is important and why people like high-damage units. I didn't even down dodge, just stating WHY the average player has more of an inclination toward Crit and damage. You got to read and comprehend more before posing my guy, because you missed the whole point.
I dont think cooler was downplayed, that mf did not and does not give me supers, he gives me normals and then gets rekt by every boss. Also his 18 ki being worse than 12 ki but him having so much ki that you’re forced to 18 ki was weird.
Honestly i think LB vegito is still pretty good. Am I weird? I mean i did build him dodge and additional so like he just kinda is pretty solid at least compared to most other units
@AmusedDragonflies-it8nu He never had cooler at 1 He said he could be 1 but he had cooler at 4 by the time cell and gohan got their ezas And then he had cooler fall out of the top before the 8th ani with O.P taking 1
Dokkan is the only community I’ve been apart of where there’s this much “baiting”, it just seems like a bunch of kids who want attention and just say the most outrageous things to get noticed 🤷♂️
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Teq Ultimate Gohan somehow still collecting dubs 4 years later 👑
Fr hes the true dokkan goat. No matter what they do they cant fumble his eza. There is just no way
can we just let this guy go until his eza please, hes not even good anymore
@@FrostByte_06 It depends on how much defense he starts the fight with and how much defense his super will give him. He can get close to 200k extra defense with 2 super currently so the best case scenario is that they give him damage reduction for the fights that blitz your entire hp bar right away.
@@thotbeater697 thats a cap. If you build him up he starts with over 500k defense and gets 50% on his 18 ki and 12 ki. So he gets close to 1 mil so no you wrong bro
@@thotbeater697 thats a cap. If you build him up he starts with over 500k defense and gets 50% on his 18 ki and 12 ki. So he gets close to 1 mil so no you wrong bro
the beast takes are 100% for attention. beast is so very obviously #1 in the game that people just wanna say shit for attention like cockroaches
Vegeta is in the same tier. Just like Truth says, ”use your eyes”. The argument is just a circle. It really is just that simple.
@@Biodigitalist55% beast > rainbowed evo vegeta
@@Biodigitalistbeast Gohan better bucko and before u say something know your role
Who tf are you?😂😂 gtfoh@@JACQUEZ23
No@@DrPepperFan
I was strangling myself over Truth not adding 1+1 and each subsequent number when he was on that calculator part.
DBZ fans can't do math? hot take or fact?
and why the hell is the red gaze playing dokkan
Ever since Mr.Beast disclosed how much he made on X from a post, it seems like the bait was gotten WILDER. Aba and Preach made a video about the Bait levels on X becoming nuclear 😭
No wonder takes had become worse
Imagine if we all universally ignored bad takes
Aba and Preach💀
@@abundanceanako1751that’s the funny thing about it all, yea that would be good, though it makes for good content for creators to talk about. Thus continuing the cycle
Whats up with them?@@theblazingace3537
As someone who pulled 30 features without getting beast gohan, everything he says is true about beast gohan
I feel ya. I'm on global so fingers crossed it doesn't happen with beast but I went 23 featured units without GT Duo or teq Vegito Blue and ended up red coining the GT duo
@@jacksknight it really sucks getting none of the characters u want 😂
My Tur Blue Goku and Vegeta (Lr VB) is 79% right now just sitting in my box. Somehow managed to pull 6 of them so maybe thatll happen in wwdc with beast 😅
It’s so funny to me that people hate gohan so much because whether it’s the show, in a movie, in literally and game gohan has always been and will always be MY GOAT. So being global player and watching beast gohan being so insane when he dropped was just a treat I can’t wait for ani in July
Beast Gohan is undoubtedly number 1. He can take damage, but he has less trouble than the rest of the game.
Pretty much this. Post intro he can live trunks/gogeta sa easily. Big damage sure but he lives. Plus u have taunt in the back pocket for him & it also acts as a shield. You also get to do damage that turn instead of a turn with 0 damage because slot 1 died & u revived.
Ssbe & others have far more instances where they can get caught.
Also, once we see hard hitting early bosses (game will get there it’s powercreep), ssbe will be relegated to slot 2 & the 5 hits will get harder & harder to get
That does not warrent a ”giant gap” that people say is there when it is provably not
@@zacktorretta7347just gonna have to wait till the damage outscales beast and he falls off and dodge becomes king again
@@tailored4extra817 give it a week. Lol
@@casteanpreswyn7528Beast isn't getting power crept this year
They aren't realsing a fight like that before 10th ani
Beast can have 80% dr with gaurd and over 600k deffence without even considering his taunt
Get out of the delusion
Funny how people mad at beast gohan being #1 but mad when ultimate gohan phy wasn't that when he dropped
I started jp a little before anni. Beast pretty much single handedly carried through every single hard event in the game. Every single one.
Like mine at 55% percent would hit 28 million attack stats on the turn of his active
I know some fans hate on beast gohan but will accept something like super saiyan rage trunks
I laugh cause beast is 1 million times worst than rage trunks in every way u just deluded 😭😭😭
@@ultraboost489 at least beast did something, rage trunks not only had zero buildup or foreshadowing it ultimately gave him half an episode of spotlight and nothing else
@@mohamadou4695 beast had zero buildup or foreshadowing, Rage Trunks has been hinted at in other media for literal years.
@@casteanpreswyn7528name the shows , games and manga were rage trunks was built up then
@@casteanpreswyn7528 “literal years”
Lol. Well when you find it lmk
I’m not gonna sit here and act like beast had ui goku levels of foreshadowing but gohan is quoted saying in super he wants to achieve a form no one else has. That’s something at least, I have my own gripes about the form but it iz wat it iz
6:54 because he does EVERYTHING that you of all people want ? Guard, dodge, stacks, additionals… I don’t know it might be why
Cold take: truth one of the best Dokkan RUclipsrs and Dokkan wouldn’t be as fun or covered as much without him 🫡
Now that the glaze is over 8th anni world tour when?
14:37 They got brought up to blue level and then 17 did stuff in TOP while Gohan was still completely worthless. Gohan is far and away the most frustratingly written character in the entire series, He has exactly 2 modes. Worthless or Stronger than everyone else just because.
Even when they do snap their fingers and bring everyone up to speed they still end up being useless at the end of the day. Dragon Ball is still a two man show none of the power boosts matter at all.
The guy trying to claim Cooler has always been better than TEQ Ulthan is crazy. Yeah people mention Cooler a lot, but you know who can still be barely ran in current content...without an EZA...? TEQ Ulthan THE BOY. His EZA cannot be fumbled, all he needs is stat increases and he's going to fuck.
As long as they give him some type of built in additionals, preferably guaranteed super, but I'll expect a medium chance for it to be a super
@@matthewgordon9341 Maybe they'll add it to his current thing where he gets attack up when he gets hit, but instead they add a guaranteed additional
I feel like im in a small camp of dokkan players who doesnt use twitter at ALL. I just play the game and stay away from all the clout and brain rot
We gotta normalize not making Truths words law. He’s got a whaled account which isn’t realistic play for most. The game is totally different from ftp to whales.
Facts
He makes f2p vids dude 55%
@@iheal2much729 Those videos are not extensive in the slightest, he barely looks at them in a few stages and then goes straight to rainbow and the world tour.
@@haydenmcqueen2503 he doesn’t need too the 55% unit is what they is in every major event the rainbow lvl 10 link world tour is more important cuz it shows them under every condition possible
@@iheal2much729 Doesn't your initial logic that a 55% unit is what they are in every major event also just straight up apply to 100% units? Where's the difference?
You Should do a most anticipated eza for this year video and see how good they would be based on their kits like for example the Gt Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta
I feel like WWDC units lose value quickest due to falling off faster than most other units, except maybe for Future Gohan, either because they get no help or a new meta comes out within 2-3 months.
Bro had to make a video about the beast slander he is passionate about his goat
A bit too passionate if you ask me
Facts
I mean its pretty obvious beast is 1. Just saying
Quick tip for the calculator. If you want to make it a counter, all you have to do is click 1 and + and then the equal sign everytime you want to increment the count by 1.
truth not just doing 1+1 whenever there was a good take 😭
What did Diddy do bro 😭💀
Epstein
Play db legends
@@IWKS1 nah
I feel like I remember Truth saying Cooler was number 1 a bunch of times when he dropped lol weird he says it’s not arguable now
Not gonna lie, since you are the God of Dokkan, seeing videos like this are a very nice addition to the standard Dokkan that we see from everyone. I like this kind of different content. Great vid.
Characters need to be power boosted through plot because goku and vegeta won't stop training for Characters to catch up
These videos are in fact pretty fire
18:26 this aged well
"You don't need damage." Not true when you have Beast Gohan fight who needs to do enough damage in order to actually hurt him, otherwise he just nullifies any attacks thrown at him. And knowing how things will go, we'll get more bosses later on whether it's Saiyan Day, WWDC, 10th Anniversary, etc. and we'll get more bosses that nullify even higher numbers of damage dealt. Yes, it's preferable to have better defense than offense, but it can't just all be defense.
The thread was not bad but those that were were so agregious that it’s hard to ignore
Please do a vid on WWDC 2023 LR Trunks. He's not as bad as you're saying man.
It’s that GRAND TOUR GRAND TOUR
IDK about the 7th anni not being as loved if it was same time. I started Dokkan like a month before 7th anni and while yes it took like a month after 7th anni to just beat Broly, I still loved and enjoyed all of it. Cool characters, awesome EZAs, interesting gimmicks with locking for Boujack, debuffing and slot 3 supers with Omega, absorbing Ki blast supers with Super 17, long ass fight with the Shadow Dragons, and of course the AoE and double supering for Broly. I enjoyed it cus while it could be frustrating, it kept me on my toes the entire fight and I felt such an accomplishment to beat it.
To be fair tho this happens for most fights. My first win on Cell Max, MCC, and Fusion Zamasu I felt the same way. Double for the no items as well.
Piccolo still feels like a cheat code in 2024
Props to Truth for replying to his tweet saying it wasn’t bad
I would really like to see a ranking every unit up until you reach Str Cooler or Int Goku black, like you did with Raditz😂
future gohan being worse than SWORD OF COPE is crazy 😆
first time watching this type of video, I enjoyed it nice video
The people who don't want beast for anni were def dbl fans
I don't think people understand how hard it is to make beast gohan look bad , like you got to completely go out of your way to do so
Im not sayin evo vegeta has gotten me killed but it exists and its much easier to do so
I think the thing is people run units always on their best and juiced setups
people are obsessed with god goku bc he was a long awaited dokkan fest his intro and animations are good and he dominated when he came out.
“I dont want dbs characters waiting for goku”
Bog goku literally has to save everyone from destruction
Rof z fighterz wait for goku
U6 v u7 goku is the only person to win multiple matches besides vegeta
Gb arc trunks asks goku for help
Top goku literally hogs most of the screentime
Some people need to understand that every community has toxic members…just like dokkan, people cosplay as bricks and just argue for the sake of it
41:25 The calculator usage here is a little wild, but hey, if it works it works.
Sometimes Truth confuses me so much
"The 7th year anniversary would be WAYYYY less loved if it was Global and JP at the same time. Anyway, it's a GOOD THING that Global and JP are syncing together!"
beast is number 1 no one says the opposite but
he is not some untoucable god after his intro runs out
and you can only use his active once and you dont always get to hold it tll the hardest portion of the fight game is rng and rng happens
i saw beast out right killed by sbs blue gogeta trunks and beast multiple times i saw him take literal million damage too cuz rng went the wrong way
so there is no canyon between him and vegeta the gap is way smaller than you think but still beast is undisputed number 1
Most of the time I build a team with 2-3 attackers and the rest being really good tanks and or supportive tanks
Also Teq Ultimate Gohan I didn’t strongly like cause I felt like something was off about him and whenever I used him he often didn’t build up as fast as he did for other people and YES I kept him in rotation regularly slot 1-2; but Lr Beasthan feels just so good now
Nah op has lost his spot on sh?? Be serious bruh come on what are these people talking about
he’s not wrong i never use him on super hero anymore , at 55% lv 10 links he provides no damage and his active i dnt need to use because I have 3 other 3 units who can protect the team better. Its a valid point
@@CJ-wd7pb He may have low damage output but he ain’t doin nothin. Aside from that tho the boy does so much more than that and still defensively isn’t exactly what I’d call bad. The giant form is still the best of its kind and always helpful to have around so let’s not discredit that, he gives the team ki when he’s hit which is a small but noteworthy ability, if you have beast you can attack break which is objectively good, his big heal and extra damage reduction may be difficult to achieve but there’s longer content now that makes it possible, and he has a stun which can’t be used in most of the current content but at least in cell max later on it can be used and that could be very helpful.
We're at the point where stacking isn't as valuable as it was before even with guard sometimes
Ehh
38:01 now we want the video with majin vegeta in vegetateq’s team
Im pretty sure the title of your video was the king is back so why ate you saying cooler was better than Gohan
Mark my words - team universe seven will be a top 5 character once they eza, and theyll be better than UI
I think the 21 take makes more sense in the perspective of NON manor dokkan celebrations and that shes the best filler dokkan fest
TEQ gohan is probably tha most respected unit
Honestly I think most people hated on VT simply cuz the damage they did was almost extremely mid in comparison to the others.
I destroyed both Beast and Gogeta with a 8th anniversary team 55% units and no items. Double GT duo, they are still unbelievable. Their downplay is insane
16:52 bro had a 30 minute e girl talk fr
Truth you should rank all the dragon ball movies.
28:18 All the takes were definitely something, but THIS TAKE WITH FUTURE GOHAN, NAH BRO, HE WAS EASILY THE BEST ONE BACK THEN. Merged Zamasu is better now, but I still love LR STR Futurehan. Maybe this is a bit bias cause he was my first carnival LR on global, but I still think he can be good and useful in some ways.
Beast likely won’t be beaten until the 10y anni. If beast is beaten there needs to be a good level of power creep.
Ok Truth is the reason why I hate Super with that dumbass take. I want hands with good writing and good powerscaling or at least frigging try. This is why I enjoy the manga more then the anime. Even though the Beast shit and wishing for power is still just dumb.
The Goat has made another debate video 🙏
3rd year LR Super EZAs will most likely slap.
Fusion Zamasu fight was alright.
Wwc lr gohan slander is crazy
Truth got a devious looking beast for tdys thumbnail lol
33:45 im sorry but this is just wrong. Sure, SOME peopke had those units. Nit enough for it to make that level of difference. Everyone was saving for the 7th year lrs to play with their teams, relatively few took the luxory of summoning on other banners and actually getting those units. Especially ginyu where you needed him and both banner units, or pull the banner units during the uth anni if you were lucky.
The boomer calculator moment was insane
Truth.. you could have just done 31 - the number of good takes to compare the numbers without a calculator lol!
More hot takes please 🙏
While I disagree with truths super take as I feel like those are just excuses for lazy writing his Dokkan takes be on point
I do love me a good hit takes video💙
Beast does have pretty lack luster animations though, and he's missing things like a counter or nullification. The fan made animation of beast is 100x better
Counter/nullification is pretty niche, so lacking those being his downsides means good things for beast
14:17 that's a terrible argument because you're making it seem like there's only two options. They can make a good story without making BS power-ups
they can but i’m not watching dragonball for quality and intricate storytelling i’ll stick to stuff like AOT for that
@@grimgiant3378 by all means have fun with that. But DB is capable of it in its own way. At least it used to be. It doesn't have to be one or the other
beast is 1 and vegeta is 2 and they belong in the same tier and i see no reason why they shouldn't be. Vegeta's revive is easy to get in the current landscape of the game, and essentially after 1 or 2 hits hes tanking the same as beast. His revive is also better than beast's taunt. If leaderskill isn't included then the gap really aint all that
How does this effect the LR Final Form Cooler revisit?
Know what? Just for this, I hope the "World Tournament gets a Round 2 on JP
If you guys didn’t want Beast as the strongest unit in the game then who? Dodoria? Raditz? Tree of Might Goku? Let’s stop with the memes and actually play the game here… Wait until Global players actually pull him, their tunes will change. So quick to judge than to accept
Phy gohan is overhated he wasn't only use for damage he had good defense if you super before you get hit then you can tank most attacks
when is hirudegarn an goku coming to global do yall think?
Next week
They’re coming in about
appreciate it
Truth please upload more, I’m running out of videos! 🤤🤗
Listen they not wasn’t gonna give us teq ultimate gohan’s eza all this time because they know once they do it’s pretty much a wrap for any tier list… that’s why they’re waiting for the meta to get to a point even him now will get one shot even after a stacked super from a normal attack 💯 which might be now but even now if he eza he is without a doubt gonna be better than most things that release after him 💯
I enjoy hot takes videos!
My personal hot take is buutenks being best EZA of 9th anni. Dude pretty much cant be replaced on extreme teams, performs awesome and wont let you down. Has a very good team with android 21 and can perfectly run with her on rotation.
Now fight me because i could careless about all those saiyans for a while.
I don’t agree, while he may be the most important or impactful helping villains, evolution blue vegeta and ui are individually stronger, along with their revives. Buutenks being busted mattered more however.
I do understand your argument, but I just can’t see it
No
You know for a fact that what you just claimed could be easily disproven by the fact that SSBE exists which is why you said you couldn't care less about the Saiyans.
youre objectively wrong but i respect it
dokkan twitter users try not to seek attention challenge : impossible
29:18 Frieza is the only thing like…throwing me off.
Would love to see agl tapion or lr omega in these new fights
13:45 THANK YOU
1:36 “they don’t have high end tanking abilities anymore” they tank better then most units u put above them on ur gosh awful tier list, they’ve aged much better then bulma or future gohan by a landslide
So the reason for people's obsession with damage is that in most super hard fights the AVERAGE player has to do the final phase (or some other trouble phase) under the Whis item or they lose. High damage is the difference between a phase taking 2-3 turns or 4-5 and most player teams that are rocking 55% units are taking damage from Normals outside of Whis, so being able to kill within that period is important. That's why people say dodge is a luxury to whales, because they can afford to forgo crit most of the time because of the higher stats. Not saying that this is completely true but it is a factor.
But at the same time, that also means defense is better than offense since you need the defense from the Whis item in order to survive to do damage.
You just admitted you need defense and why obsessing over damage is strange
@@StarNameKev . . . When did I say that Defense wasn't better than offense lol? I was just stating why Crit is important and why people like high-damage units. I didn't even down dodge, just stating WHY the average player has more of an inclination toward Crit and damage.
You got to read and comprehend more before posing my guy, because you missed the whole point.
I dont think cooler was downplayed, that mf did not and does not give me supers, he gives me normals and then gets rekt by every boss. Also his 18 ki being worse than 12 ki but him having so much ki that you’re forced to 18 ki was weird.
during his reign getting his 18 ki was very valuable because it stacked attack which made his active skill hit way harder.
Truth do an Omega Shenron video with GT hero’s only. ) bet it’s harder than Artificial Lifeforms
I SAW BEAST DIE IN YOUR VIDEO DAFRAUDDT COPE!!
Honestly i think LB vegito is still pretty good. Am I weird? I mean i did build him dodge and additional so like he just kinda is pretty solid at least compared to most other units
Slime girl Omni-Man be like "Read my thread Truth"
Correct me if I'm wrong but I could've sworn Truth saying at the time that you could argue Cooler could be number 1 in the game.
Correct
I do remember seeing him have Cooler at 1 for some time.
@AmusedDragonflies-it8nu He never had cooler at 1
He said he could be 1 but he had cooler at 4 by the time cell and gohan got their ezas
And then he had cooler fall out of the top before the 8th ani with O.P taking 1
Beast is the true bill collector💀💀💀💀
Dokkan is the only community I’ve been apart of where there’s this much “baiting”, it just seems like a bunch of kids who want attention and just say the most outrageous things to get noticed 🤷♂️
The teqq ssj3 Lr should get a super eza, along with Phy gogeta*
Dont play INT LR Goku Black like that. He is that dawg. He is a powerhouse, maybe not for all current stuff but he is still good
He is definitely not still good. He was pretty good on release if only a little squishy, but now he dies to normals
15:00 SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!! Datruth with the based comment of the hour!!
20:40 he dominated all the fights until he got powercrept 60 days later, are we supposed to be happy about that??
Well,at this point after years of the same thing happening with heroes units yaal just have to accept it