Madagascan Vanilla Trade Controlled By Chinese Businesses

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  • Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
  • Chinese Vanilla - How Chinese entrepreneurs have taken control of Madagascar's Vanilla trade, and what this means for the local.
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    Madagascar, the world's main source of vanilla, has seen traditional farming methods upset by a recent craving for the spice in China. While the Madagascan government stands by, Chinese profiteers wreak havoc on the trade.
    Vanilla was introduced to Madagascar by French colonisers in the 19th century, which brought cheap Chinese labour to the farms. Papa Be is a 66-year-old descendent of this first wave of Chinese immigrants. Like his father before him he practises artisanal methods and takes pride in his crop. But his trade is a precarious one. "As growers, we're in the palm of those who have all the money - the owners and the buyers", he explains. Now his homeland has discovered a taste for vanilla, which has led to a surge in demand for the spice. Enter a second wave of Chinese immigrants. The new arrivals are business people who control the wholesale buying and export of the spice and profit from cheap local labour. A lack of contracts with workers makes it easy to fire disobedient employees. "That's how you manage workers here", says Cindy, an investor who moved to Madagascar with the second arrival of Chinese immigrants in the 1990s. For President Rajaonarimampianina, who came to power in a military coup in 2009, the unpopular Chinese newcomers are a necessary evil. He needs foreign investment: "Our markets are completely open, and that means China too", he says.
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Комментарии • 675

  • @Chimel31
    @Chimel31 6 лет назад +92

    There should be a web site where farmers can sell their top quality vanilla directly to the Western consumers at full retail price.

    • @randomdrumbeat936
      @randomdrumbeat936 5 лет назад +6

      It's called Alibaba! LOL.

    • @chima6291
      @chima6291 5 лет назад +7

      Both Alibaba & AliExpress does this. However, it is not so easy to do business. You need capital, sales channel, quality control, customer service and everything.

    • @Mochab001
      @Mochab001 5 лет назад +1

      YES!

    • @fadrium1464
      @fadrium1464 4 года назад +2

      Well group of farmers (cooperation) and their family can arrange that, if they get enough knowledge how to do it, just like just exploit Alibaba, eBay etc.

    • @rac3r5
      @rac3r5 3 года назад +3

      By western, you mean international consumers. The rest of the world consumes vanilla too. What they need is a COOP.

  • @javakuppa3346
    @javakuppa3346 9 лет назад +79

    I like the mixed race man. His village is so picturesque and he looks like a kind thoughtful intelligent man. His wife is very lucky. I wish him well.

    • @CrakenFlux
      @CrakenFlux 6 лет назад +4

      fucking incredible dude, you way out there.. that racist shit is gonna lose its edge from too much wear.... Java described the man the way he described himself and on top said he was proud of his heritage and behaved as such... i am telling you, someday soon you are going to scream wolf and no one will come running, going to create a backlash, know what i mean?

    • @Jazzmarcel
      @Jazzmarcel 6 лет назад

      A dam racist idiot you are!........normal I guess coming for a weak gene savage,

    • @Natasha___.
      @Natasha___. 3 года назад

      So true, that village looks like paradise and he has the kindest, happiest face I've ever seen.

  • @davidsquall351
    @davidsquall351 9 лет назад +207

    Papa B seems like a cool guy

    • @suzanabrams1
      @suzanabrams1 9 лет назад +7

      davidsquall351 Yes, was thinking the same. He's open-hearted.

    • @davidsquall351
      @davidsquall351 8 лет назад

      +NSCLady None of those people give a shit about anything but them selves.

    • @Nerotheraccoon
      @Nerotheraccoon 8 лет назад

      right tho!

    • @sashakartus3435
      @sashakartus3435 6 лет назад +5

      Somebody here has commented that they care only about themselves. How you can criticise like that !! Did you live there or anywhere else? I do not think so. Did you watch this video to the end? At least ??

    • @lalakuma9
      @lalakuma9 6 лет назад +5

      The priest refused to baptize him because he asked too many questions. What a way to suppress a kid's independent thinking :(

  • @4schoolly
    @4schoolly 6 лет назад +26

    Papa B dug 10 wells. wow he is such a kind man. bless his soul. he looks so happy with his vanilla pods.

  • @akarmoussaittizi3012
    @akarmoussaittizi3012 Год назад +6

    The wiseness of Papa Be is heartwarming and I have met such people in Madagscar ,there are not a lot like him fortunately but enough to bring some light in these villages by being so smart and caring.

    • @sifuelylyamuya9698
      @sifuelylyamuya9698 Год назад

      he is true father very carering one...i appreciate him you can believe is a chinese by origin

  • @edwardladrera86
    @edwardladrera86 6 лет назад +24

    Cindy can only abuse the natives until they have enough of her. While growing up, we had a Chinese neighbor engaged in buying coconut meat. They too were abusive with their workers. They were so hated in the neighborhood my mother would not even allow me to play with their son of my age. When they were robbed in the middle of the night, no neighbor answered their call for help. The couple were beaten up and hog tied and the neighbors thought, they deserved it.

    • @jamie.777
      @jamie.777 Год назад

      I agree, the hog tie was justice

  • @noforcedlabour9208
    @noforcedlabour9208 9 лет назад +65

    Papa B for president!

    • @spirithawk2418
      @spirithawk2418 6 лет назад +4

      No Forcedlabour hell yes. He's the Man

    • @fadrium1464
      @fadrium1464 4 года назад

      But will they accept Chinese son as president? For conservative people that's sounds like treat.

  • @Gluluman
    @Gluluman 6 лет назад +20

    2000 Years ago, the Arabs enslaved and colonized Africans. From the year 1450 to 1960 the Europeans enslaved and colonized Africans. From the year 1960 to 2000 the invisible hand of the cold war enslaved and colonized Africans. From 2000 and ongoing the Chinese are enslaving, manipulating and colonizing Africans. Due to his lack of savvy, know how, his predisposition to exploitation, the Chinese have taken advantage of Africa and its rich resources, in fact based on available data both in terms of land acquisition and natural resources over $27 trillion has been unjustly taken through various deals- yet Africans have gotten a meager $280 billion out of those investments. Take the case of Senegal, where the Chinese have recently bought out right their international Airport located in Yioff Senegal, then loan the country $11 billion to build an new airport, nearly 10 times the cost of building an international Airport. In a country with a meager $31 billion PPP [GDP], repaying that loan will be nearly impossible. What the Chinese really want is the Yioff land in Senegal among others . Sadly Senegal will soon join the rank of countries deceived by China the likes of Sri Lanka were the government signed a 99-year lease with the Chinese government to operate their ports and airports. Case in point, the Chinese have and are currently building the biggest deep-seaport port in East Africa near Mombassa Kenya, coupled with biggest military based in Djibouti Africa, millions of miles of rails track throughout East Africa (Kenya, Djibouti, Ethiopia, Uganda, Rwanda, Tanzania, Zambia etc… their core objective is both cleared and nefarious, in that the Chinese plant to eventually dump trillion of dollars worth the cheaply made Chinese goods throughout Africa in the Belt and Road Initiative using their tentacles rail network. Recently the Chinese bought out right four additional international airports in West Africa (in Burkina Faso, Togo, the Guinea Bissau, as well as Sierra Leone and Cameroon). In Senegal for instance to build the airport the Chinese loaned Senegal $11 billions1/3 of the country GDP and 11 times the cost of building. When I first visited Senegal in 1985, the country was a fine republic with great potential, recently however (2015), Senegal has become a dump of humanity, the poverty, the decay and years of corruption and incompetence due to the inaptitude of both current and former president Wade. We can most certainly predict, soon enough Senegal like many other Africans will be bounded in chains, this time around however by the Chinese.

    • @Jazzmarcel
      @Jazzmarcel 6 лет назад

      Gluluman to most, writing a long persuasive comments will have an effect on the ignorant and mis-educated BUT, all it takes is a little bit knowledge of euRIPeans or Caucasian history to see clearly what you are, a liar!......a liar by omission! Just take a look at the details and spot where you are taking shit!
      True, Africa is in a hell of a mess! Who’s fault is it? The Caucasian and his mixed cousin the Arab!
      What you fear is that my people will learn about the dangers of the spiritual poison of religion and wake up and its coming that explains why you decided to try to spread confusion here by mixing truth with lies!
      At the very least, the Chinese will fuck up the blood sucking parasitic CFA which is crippled the economy of 14 African countries!
      Sir, you know perfectly well that world war really started the day you criminal defects got on boats to colonize the planet! The reason Chinese are having success because they have realized this simple fact!......
      YOUR economists and ecologists are screaming because they know that Capitalism and technology is a short lived perceived success and only true progress and prosperity is to be in harmony and balance with others and nature! Something you types have never had!
      ........got that!

    • @hoangtran-gf3gd
      @hoangtran-gf3gd 5 лет назад

      Gluluman: I share your view on the ambitious and self-serving Chinese Belt & Road Initiative. I strongly believe that it's a spectacular magic trick of the century being pulled by China! It's unbelievable that these nations somehow are convinced to take up massive Chinese debts and spend them on Chinese companies to build a Chinese centered international infrastructure network, which would obviously facilitate cripplingly cheap Chinese manufactured goods to flood their markets while the reverse trade flows from these markets to China would largely be precious raw materials, low-value handicrafts and probably seafoods and agricultural produces! Well, any sober and thinking nation could easily see that it's a terrible deal and, therefore, the cost of building the above Belt and Road Initiative should largely be picked up by China, not the other way around!

    • @dancinglily4919
      @dancinglily4919 4 года назад

      Something you don't value and others value and then reach a common value to form a business deal. If you don't like, just don't sell, there is no need to pour your hatred to the people who is doing business with you. Otherwise, no business no life

    • @cliffontheroad
      @cliffontheroad 5 месяцев назад

      2024 China is having problems caused by their ruling party. The belt and road projects, some, are halted. Imitation Vanilla is superior (6 vs $14) and cheaper. Sounds like the politicians are hurting the farmers. That presidents speech is not being done, so he is the fool (but likes what $$ he gets from the deals.) Yes, someone else should deal with the farmers, but maybe the gvmt would halt new buyers / shipping.

  • @AL-mm4vq
    @AL-mm4vq 6 лет назад +10

    they need the internet to do some direct sales...

  • @collinhennessy1521
    @collinhennessy1521 6 лет назад +54

    So French vanilla is really Madagascan vanilla?

  • @alissadoan6520
    @alissadoan6520 7 лет назад +28

    The government needs to regulate and sell their products to benefit the farmers. It seems like they have no control over the market. It always comes down to the poor people.

  • @fortroadmusic
    @fortroadmusic 5 лет назад +9

    Papa B just has one of those energies that impacts everyone around him positively, I dig it

  • @texasyankee3512
    @texasyankee3512 6 лет назад +9

    A Growers Cooperative needs to be established for the wholesale marketing outside
    of the country -- certified organic, and indigenous cultivated and processed.

    • @africanclassicalmusic
      @africanclassicalmusic 6 лет назад +1

      Texas Yankee exactly

    • @Arsen4155
      @Arsen4155 3 года назад +2

      Exactly. I watched Tongan vanilla farmers and they did it. It will increase added value so the price will be higher

  • @douglasdaugherty1726
    @douglasdaugherty1726 7 лет назад +6

    For the 2016 Madagascar Vanilla Bean crop, the price for green vanilla beans started at USD $30.00/kg and quickly went to $60.00/kg. By the end of the green vanilla bean campaign, the selling price was up to $72.00/kg.

    • @swillmerchant9886
      @swillmerchant9886 2 года назад

      and then it shot up to hundreds of dollars. hope papa B had benefited from the price boom.

  • @beckyluvstoscrapnsew
    @beckyluvstoscrapnsew 9 лет назад +19

    last time I went looking for vanilla it was $9.99 Australian for about 5 pods...don't know what that is per kg but it must be about $600 or there abouts...and the growers get $??

    • @coolspot18
      @coolspot18 6 лет назад +2

      Each part of the journey takes it cut - if you look at wholesale farm pricing for other foods it's also pretty low, but the markup may not be as great since the journey is closer and supply greater.

  • @BrianSmith-yq7ys
    @BrianSmith-yq7ys 6 лет назад +7

    I think the vacuum packaging is great they can hold back supply if the Chinese pay them little for their crops

  • @spirithawk2418
    @spirithawk2418 6 лет назад +13

    Papa B for President!! 2022

  • @msshoeka5573
    @msshoeka5573 6 лет назад +4

    That was great . May God bless Papa B and his villages

  • @editatrinio8580
    @editatrinio8580 6 лет назад +5

    in drying the vanilla fruit they should adapt the Japanese Hawaiian way of drying coffee beans, they put the beans in a rack with a sliding roof made of clear glass, if it rains they just slide the roof in place keeping the coffee beans dry.

  • @ESMOKER1980
    @ESMOKER1980 6 лет назад +40

    Of course... they have nothing and yet they still are asked to give money at the church! Typical!

    • @apscoradiales
      @apscoradiales 5 лет назад +2

      There is no law requiring that they give money.
      They give it because they are decent folks who think about the well being of everybody in the community and because their love for God.
      Many people around the World could learn that by watching this video, including you!

    • @Longmachao
      @Longmachao 5 лет назад

      ​@@apscoradiales How does giving the little money they have help the community? by lining the pocket of the church? They would help the community more by saving the money or invest it in their own future. By raising their own economic status it will improve business and open opportunity for other.

    • @redcommierad2447
      @redcommierad2447 4 года назад

      Apsco Radiales that money goes to the church

    • @Zero-gh9lp
      @Zero-gh9lp 4 года назад

      @@apscoradiales Sadly there is also no law that requires churches to pay taxes and no oversight to prove that the money actually goes to the community. Goes a long way to explain the extensive corruption of religious organisations.

  • @aripsuzuran94
    @aripsuzuran94 3 года назад +4

    So the chinese employer checking their employee for theft . Yet their the one stealing from them. I feel bad for those poor hardworking people who gor exploited by others in their own country

    • @alextyy
      @alextyy Год назад

      They are locals, Chinese people immigrated to Madagascar... Madagascans are mixed people... The employees also are partly Asians.

  • @javakuppa3346
    @javakuppa3346 9 лет назад +177

    The french writer is so biased in the way he speaks of the Chinese . He is right in that the Chinese don't care what you do with the money they give you when doing business. But to imply that the French were better or more ethical is painting a false picture.

    • @quanfung5958
      @quanfung5958 6 лет назад +20

      You right !! The French are still COLONIZERS in 14 African countries !!

    • @muzzle9999
      @muzzle9999 6 лет назад +4

      You are right in every word!

    • @brianmay3852
      @brianmay3852 6 лет назад +4

      EXACTLY! both sides have their own interest and eager to criticize each other.

    • @fidykely
      @fidykely 6 лет назад +5

      Totally agree. If this was the reality, all the french companies would have left our country long time ago. This french guy is biased

    • @XTheFireDemonX
      @XTheFireDemonX 6 лет назад +9

      I agree. The chinese may be bad but the french is fucking bad

  • @cooblur
    @cooblur 6 лет назад +3

    You can have all the raw materials but when you have no way to export it/sell it...
    You get middle-men.

  • @cohall46
    @cohall46 5 лет назад +3

    Very interesting to see the cultural differences as applied to economics.

  • @javakuppa3346
    @javakuppa3346 9 лет назад +36

    Say what you want about the Chinese but one thing they got going on is their business/commercial skills.....the Chinese are all about the hustle....just go to any country in the world and it's not hard to find a Chinese person with his or her own business....trying to be their own masters...being an entrepreneur is not easy! It takes courage and hard work.

    • @domingotres5243
      @domingotres5243 6 лет назад +3

      Money... money... money... that is the only thing Chineses know. If you are a "master" it means that you have a slave working for you.

    • @nicolasvillamil7523
      @nicolasvillamil7523 6 лет назад +7

      You can be a successful entrepreneur without being a condescending bitch.

    • @alraylazado3366
      @alraylazado3366 6 лет назад +1

      22 people agreed on this condescending bitch. imagine that.

    • @ThePriscillaninja
      @ThePriscillaninja 6 лет назад +1

      Yeah, being a "master" at the expense of others...

    • @jenniferray8569
      @jenniferray8569 5 лет назад

      the chinese way is quantity over quality .. with slave like working conditions in both africa and china. The ones in power dont care about peoples life or the planet, if china becomes bigger we're doomed and so your planet, because the chinese dont give a damn about future gen, or our planet, only cares about money and themselfs.

  • @golfinguna
    @golfinguna 6 лет назад +2

    Funny, I just bought a bottle of vanilla extract Fairtrade organic 100ml £6-00. It`s mixed with water and sugar so how much vanilla is actually in there is anybody`s guess. Made in Australia.

  • @weidu5293
    @weidu5293 9 лет назад +23

    This Frenchman talked badly about Chinese as if French colonized Madgasgar with a good intention to benefit only local people. French people definitely will be bitter about others who try to share part of the vanilla profit. Again, what is wrong if Chinese want to work hard to succeed? The Chinese woman searches employees to prevent them from stealing, yes, that is sad, believe me, the boss in China never search their employee since most of Chinese employees do not steal. Stealing should be the first cause to be blamed.

    • @ratsivalakaflowerbud
      @ratsivalakaflowerbud 8 лет назад +7

      +Wei du They should give them a decent salary then ! Plain and simple ! Duh ! She's working hard ?! Counting the money, giving orders, frisking... ? Give me a break !

    • @alphamale292
      @alphamale292 8 лет назад +3

      +Fanja Ratsivalaka I agree with you 100% and the love of money is indeed the root of all evil.

    • @jaimeeclair8999
      @jaimeeclair8999 7 лет назад +3

      Hahahahahahahaha, Chinese employees don't steal! GTFOH! So, who are the millions of prisoners in Chinese prisons. You know, like the prisoners making millions of dance videos on youtube?

  • @TipiWaiEn
    @TipiWaiEn 9 лет назад +29

    Papa B speak french very well, meanwhile chinese in Malaysia speak bahasa like they just came from mainland

  • @yanj111
    @yanj111 6 лет назад +6

    the title is so misleading! I can see anything related market control by Chinese

  • @uncleruckus5121
    @uncleruckus5121 6 лет назад +3

    @16:12
    no ties with madagascans...
    this is EXACTLY why in my country the Philippines
    the supreme court in the 1950s wrote a paper on
    the naturalization of foreigners wishing to become
    filipinos. they stated you must be sure that they having
    a desire and a love for the Philippines, her people and
    culture and have mingled in society and do not wish
    to become Filipinos to take advantage of the Philippines
    economically or just to exploit her natural resources.
    that was written specifically for that woman @ 16:12

  • @Prolegomena1781
    @Prolegomena1781 9 лет назад +4

    Hilarious translation from 18:25 on - explains in a 40 sec speech: "Be careful not to pick green vanilla before it is ripe, by careful to not to use vacuum packaging" Madagascar's president got his shit together^^

    • @CptMikeTango1
      @CptMikeTango1 7 лет назад

      The translation is not synched, he told more than what is written. Even what is written is not really accurate

  • @jackbeans5147
    @jackbeans5147 6 лет назад +4

    Yeah and in Australia you pay $3-4 for two crappy pods

  • @jcdova29
    @jcdova29 6 лет назад +2

    Papa B is my hero!

  • @ivoivic2448
    @ivoivic2448 3 года назад +1

    I pay 5€ for 1 dried vanilla bean in the supermarket. These people should get into business of repackaging vanilla, forget producing it. Apparenltly it raises the price 10x.

  • @uncleruckus5121
    @uncleruckus5121 6 лет назад +3

    5 has grower and 100 euros a month (1200 a year)
    and middle man makes 60,000 in a season??
    and the workers ? 1 euro per day and in usa people
    complain about 10 dollars per hour !?

  • @tokenpoptart3750
    @tokenpoptart3750 6 лет назад +8

    "their speed has saved thousands of euros" gets paid a dollar day, could get fired at any second, by slaving invading chinese.

  • @xiaotie304
    @xiaotie304 6 лет назад +5

    It's all about the food chain. That's the Truth about the world.
    U.S and UK does not produce that much oil, but yet, they have the Oil futures pricing power in the market, they decide when to decrease the oil price to crash Russia and middle east ...
    Are you really so surprised by the producers do not have the pricing power but trader or buyer have? It happens everyday. (I don't think it's morally right though ...)

    • @craigarnold9005
      @craigarnold9005 6 лет назад

      Xiatie,, catch up with the times USA exports oil,,,,,, and when their stockpiles go up ,, price goes down,,,,,Chinese now have dropped their "tariff coz they cant get enuf off Iran,,,,, and this show is a bout vanilla!!!!!!Its plain and simple Chinese theft off the farmer ,, supported by a dick head corrupt leader..

    • @bmo5082
      @bmo5082 5 лет назад

      USA is the world's top producer of oil

  • @HollieMoodie
    @HollieMoodie 5 лет назад +4

    Every product the Chinese touch, the quality immediately goes down.

    • @Dodo-ym8cc
      @Dodo-ym8cc 4 года назад

      that is not true. Everything comes from China, most is good quality

  • @africanlion8585
    @africanlion8585 6 лет назад +4

    I thought he was catching a butterfly... It turned out to be money lol... Churches always after one thing $$$$..

  • @DucaTech
    @DucaTech 6 лет назад +3

    I just want to know what will happen to Madagascar if French or Chinese left the country. Will they be able to independently develop themselves into a rich country? Advancement takes hard work and time. Madagascar had lots of time. What were they doing before the French and Chinese came over? I'm trying to compare Madagascar to Taiwan for example. Taiwan was able to develop itself into a rich nation, and it was colonized by Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, Chinese, and Japanese. It had more struggles than Madagascar with very little resources, but it was able to transform itself. It manufactures electronic parts, petrochemical products, one of the of the highest educated people on earth. Another example was Singapore. It was colonized by Chinese and British and was briefly occupied by Japanese during WWII, but it's the country with highest income per capita in the OECD. Again, Singapore has very little resources. What brings the country wealth and greatness is the determination of its people - the hard work and sacrifice and perseverance. The government had to make harsh choices but it helped got the country to where it is today. So again, why Madagascar failed where other nations of similar size and history of colonization were able to succeed.

    • @redcommierad2447
      @redcommierad2447 4 года назад

      dhg1234 we need the chinese not the europeans. Trading with chinese can be big benefit if you know what to do

    • @arewanewztv765
      @arewanewztv765 Год назад

      Unfortunately the government in west African countries not only madagasca are so wicked.

  • @jasonwilliam2125
    @jasonwilliam2125 3 года назад +1

    $3 a kilo in 2015 but in 2016 the wholesale price went up to $400 a kilo.
    If the guy managed another year hed have been very wealthy for a local

  • @kpzcbttp
    @kpzcbttp 9 лет назад +5

    This is typical of most countries, if a person is born with poor bones then they very seldom move off that level.

  • @RichardsWorld
    @RichardsWorld 6 лет назад +206

    Wow, those Chinese are treating them like slaves in their own country. Why does it have to be the Chinese work smart and make most of the money, and the locals work very hard for almost nothing?

    • @henryjohnson280
      @henryjohnson280 6 лет назад +38

      When Africans comes in contact with virtually any other ethnic group, they always come out on the bottom. Why do you suppose that is?

    • @afendiafendi9642
      @afendiafendi9642 6 лет назад +9

      Richard's World Traveler work hard and smart idiot...

    • @kautschukm4381
      @kautschukm4381 6 лет назад +35

      guess how the French treated them ? Tell me how the Europeans treated the Indians, Aboriginies,Africans ? This is how Capitalism works my friend Richard.

    • @walkingphilosopher
      @walkingphilosopher 6 лет назад +24

      @Richard's World Traveler I feel you. But let me give my most honest answer. Most locals work only to eat. On the other hand, the Chinese or any other economically successful immigrants work not solely to eat but to also pursue greatness through wealth. Both groups work hard. But their different driving force as reason to work set them apart. I am placing it here not to debate, but to create awareness and to invite other races to join the game because I frankly think that the locals really deserve more.

    • @Nonenone-rj9yp
      @Nonenone-rj9yp 6 лет назад +8

      The market infrastructure there is so poor there must be a better way for the farmers to sell to the global community. Someone should setup a online market place, with a quality control system and eliminate the middle men

  • @MassDynamic
    @MassDynamic 6 лет назад +1

    it's up to the citizens and the gov. to bargain for better prices. if gov. invests into the education of its people and it's own food supply, the citizens will have more bargaining power.

  • @Maleblade
    @Maleblade 9 лет назад +2

    @17:00 The difference.....

  • @JIANYM36
    @JIANYM36 6 лет назад +2

    I'd switch the old man to be the president in a second. That's a guy that cares about his people and country. He's not interested in money!

  • @jakeshaw6827
    @jakeshaw6827 6 лет назад +2

    Im sure its pretty hard to respect your boss when you are getting paid 1 Euro a day

    • @watever9751
      @watever9751 6 лет назад

      Well... 1 Euro is apparently 80% (Or standard) wages for them.

  • @dawnfkahamilton-doerfler6982
    @dawnfkahamilton-doerfler6982 6 лет назад +1

    Will you run out of fertile land for planting more vanilla if Chinese purchase goes up?
    How long does the hard labor last from
    Picking to shipping?
    I think UN should make sure everyone
    Gets a fair wage according to how hard
    They sweat and toil.
    InUSA pure vanilla costs $7-9. For
    2 ounces. Liquid form.

  • @kaykayigor8568
    @kaykayigor8568 4 года назад +1

    Papa bi's FRENCH TONE is so good

  • @treeman_mj
    @treeman_mj 5 лет назад

    This documentary was fascinating. Thank you JP

  • @mrteiken
    @mrteiken 9 лет назад +2

    "Vanilla makes up 35% of Madagascar's exports" B.S. More like 5%

  • @sOmebOdyrand0m
    @sOmebOdyrand0m 5 лет назад +1

    The last part made me cry. So much faith for nothing. I hope the children get to go to school.

  • @rac3r5
    @rac3r5 3 года назад +2

    Seems like there are too many middle men in the vanilla business. They need to organize, and have direct to consumer access.
    Its also sad that nobody speaks the indigenous language here.

  • @sto2779
    @sto2779 6 месяцев назад

    Why don't people simply buy directly from quality vanilla bean producers? I know one thing or a fact, I know there must be some European/American based runned businesses in Madagascar to make premium Vanilla, else no one would ever buy them. Someone needs to make an App or a business platform just for buying top notch Vanilla directly from serious vanilla cultivators so that all of the quality vanilla producers does not loose out or fade away.

  • @funny-video-YouTube-channel
    @funny-video-YouTube-channel 6 лет назад +2

    What if they had a frozen produce, to keep it fresh ?

    • @EddieOdora
      @EddieOdora 6 лет назад

      the cost of running and maintaining a large fridge would probably be too much for them

  • @mahjowee20
    @mahjowee20 6 лет назад +2

    Is there an update or follow up on the progress of this story? Very sad exploitation. Considering here in Australia we pay $11 for 2 vanilla pods. Hopefully there are more fair trade companies investing in farms like Papa Be and his fellow rural farmers

  • @infoworld7706
    @infoworld7706 6 лет назад +2

    Those products from the vanilla probably most sell to western countries. Do you understand me? If the Chinese factories can have a good profit, the payment to Madagascar farmer will be higher.
    But that's impossible because the western buyers wouldn't pay that much to the Chinese. So here the Chinese become the bad guys, and the real buyers of those vanilla goods blame the Chinese for offering to little to the vanilla farmers.
    Same goes to the blame of sweatshop in China or other developing countries, the westerners blame the sweatshop but never willing to pay more to buy the products which can make the workers better. I call this hypocrite.

  • @dzunglu7184
    @dzunglu7184 2 года назад

    Expensive commodity, farmers and growers are left behind with prices squash to their lowest. This has been the way of life in trades of many third world countries. There’s too many middle men having their fair shares, their cuts is getting bigger. When in short supply, will it be worth in gold? No surprise there.

  • @bulkyplant
    @bulkyplant Год назад

    Thank you Pappa B

  • @saltyaces8621
    @saltyaces8621 6 лет назад +1

    the presidents speech at 18:05 - can anyone verify if the translated text is correct? it just seems that he was talking a lot more about other things and for what he apparently said, i don't quite understand why the audience applauded him?

    • @redcommierad2447
      @redcommierad2447 4 года назад

      Salty Aces the translation was correct enough

  • @0311ohrah
    @0311ohrah Год назад +1

    Why the French there for so long period, local still don't be have adequate drinking water?

  • @selayargreenchannel6620
    @selayargreenchannel6620 Год назад

    Good job !

  • @baunilhabio1418
    @baunilhabio1418 7 месяцев назад

    What is the possibility of getting in touch with vanilla producers in Madagascar, to exchange experience, exchange, etc...

  • @janejan9728
    @janejan9728 6 лет назад +5

    Why does the quality of everything the chinese touch immediately turn to s***? They shouldn't be allowed near expensive and rare products, they'll immediately ruin them.

  • @galejones7598
    @galejones7598 5 лет назад

    THANK YOU FOR SHARING MANY PRAYERS, BLESSINGS FOR THEM!

  • @JohntechFL
    @JohntechFL 5 лет назад +1

    Amazing this is still going on in the age of the internet.

  • @needmoreramsay
    @needmoreramsay 6 лет назад +1

    This is a perfect example of how different cultures and races can integrate and live in harmony. Create an economy, import workers willingly, introduce them to the native culture but create a comfortable region where they can settle in and call home. Then become an important, productive part of the nation. Why can't we dominate that model in most nation's in the world ?

    • @needmoreramsay
      @needmoreramsay 6 лет назад

      9:51 Did she say RAVIOLI ?? An Asian selling Italian food in Africa. Lol.

  • @ragtaghero84
    @ragtaghero84 9 лет назад +1

    An excellent production. Papa B is very eloquent. I am humbled by his humility.

  • @mercykav7488
    @mercykav7488 6 лет назад

    May God bless papa G he a humble man

  • @giekimani534
    @giekimani534 6 лет назад +1

    Papa B seems happy

  • @sangkang6294
    @sangkang6294 4 года назад

    The farmer makes 3 euro per kilo and the middle guy sells 40 euro per kilo. I'm little behind my math but 1333% is pretty good return of investment.

  • @Rcg1382
    @Rcg1382 9 лет назад +24

    Nice.
    Again hitting China though.
    What about making a story about the foreign people mining in Afganistan's mountains and sending back home through their military cargo planes which nobody knows what is it? maybe gold? perhaps plutonium?
    Another story is tankers that are leaving Libya. Btw, Libya got the finest oil in the world.

    • @dojean1883
      @dojean1883 6 лет назад +1

      the only products from the western crusadic tribes: crusadic witches, crusadic rats, crusadic totems, crusadic sorceries....... the world should burn these western products into ash......

    • @maxparker1321
      @maxparker1321 6 лет назад

      Gavigg75 already on it 😁

    • @SherrainePhillips
      @SherrainePhillips 6 лет назад

      Why don't you go report on those stories since you care so much?

    • @calvyncraven1141
      @calvyncraven1141 5 лет назад

      @Gavigg75 you can start first by throwing out your phone since it's made in china.

    • @calvyncraven1141
      @calvyncraven1141 5 лет назад

      @Gavigg75 even Japanese phones are made in China, stupid.

  • @alpacino307
    @alpacino307 3 года назад

    Respect my brother and God bless

  • @rakotondrazakatojoherilant6403
    @rakotondrazakatojoherilant6403 4 года назад

    GOD BLESS YOU PAPA B .

  • @dancinglily4919
    @dancinglily4919 4 года назад

    The logic here is you will hate anyone who wants to buy your stuff then stop selling

  • @MistressOP
    @MistressOP 6 лет назад +1

    These fair trade cats needs to contact PAPA B!

  • @YoniNadi
    @YoniNadi 5 лет назад

    That arrogant Chinese supervisor telling the workers to hurry up because of the rain will spoil the vanilla beans should have helped them place the vanilla beans in a dry building!

  • @michaeldallas
    @michaeldallas 5 лет назад

    They would get more by creating a direct premium brand from specific farmers to the foodie world in Europe and USA. i.e the Co-Op model. It depends if the farmers are actually allowed to sell on "completely open" "world markets." Doubtful since the farmers aren't allowed to even control their own growing season.

  • @imirrawashere
    @imirrawashere Год назад +1

    She literally talks to them and about them like they're slaves! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

  • @ruesekleahcim2153
    @ruesekleahcim2153 3 года назад +2

    Never understood why Chinese always find themselves in other people's country and benefit more than those people. We must put a permanent stoppage to this. Black people are too forgiving and forgetful

  • @uncleruckus5121
    @uncleruckus5121 6 лет назад

    very nice program !
    thank you
    merci

  • @jenipeachy
    @jenipeachy 6 лет назад

    Respect is earned not given . Yet again the government won’t help their own . Shame on them . €3 per kilo for the farmers/growers . I’m discussed at this pat down by the buyers . How do we help people ? when they aren’t told what we pay .

  • @lurtzuruk-hai2595
    @lurtzuruk-hai2595 6 лет назад

    Because the chinese are protected by the law, they have the connectioms, they have the money, they own the means of production and they are the comercial intermediaries. You have various ways of exploitation and discrimination: commercial, labour, juridic, linguistic, etc. Jist mantain yoir workers under certain limits that makes them reproduce their condition and be alienated while you accumulate.
    This is partly possible because of one simple reason, that is that Madagascar has a colonial structure, a colonial country is a capitalist country, therefore a classist country, a racist country etc.
    The new chinese are different from the old ones, you can see these don't get mixed with black people, they are closed groups, this way there is less distribution of wealth and less social mobility which means more opportunities to exploit workers.
    Another important aspect to analyze is that of the culture of work, chinese and french who come from big industrial and complex societies with a greater social distance and a indirect satisfaction of their necesities think and plan in long terms while madagascans have more inmediate relationships, closer trustworthy relationships, other ways of social cooperation and security which allow them for short term thought and other ways of regulating the emotions and resisting civilization as a way of changing the conduct and making pathetic french and chinese people.
    Finally, that french guy talking about comminist chinese has no idea what he is talking about, if chinese were comunist they would be socializing the means of production instead of privatizing them.

  • @fahren299
    @fahren299 5 лет назад +1

    Their leadership has sold them out.

  • @davec5153
    @davec5153 6 лет назад +1

    Why was he calling the church the temple?

  • @pedrodurty47
    @pedrodurty47 6 лет назад

    That govt is forcing them to harvest by date to drive the cost as high as possible.

  • @gerardlales836
    @gerardlales836 6 лет назад

    Wow $1.00 a day and then you go to the humiliation to be searched...... WTF..!!!!

  • @hail_koenig
    @hail_koenig 6 лет назад

    If the Chinese merchants all leave Madagascar today. There won't be any Frenchmen there to replace them. That's what's kept the wages low.

  • @amehel0
    @amehel0 5 лет назад +1

    Why does one of the body guard have an australian kangaroo road sign stiched to his vest?

  • @b1aflatoxin
    @b1aflatoxin 6 лет назад

    Good share, thanks.

  • @alexma1472
    @alexma1472 6 лет назад

    Shame to France! Colonized Madagascar for centuries and the place and people are depraved of everything. Only international free trade and investment could give the country a better position rather than monopolized by one dominant play. If you could pay higher price you could play, the market is open as the president said.

  • @resart5445
    @resart5445 5 лет назад +1

    6:25 20 years and she still dosnt know he isnt chinese

  • @gilagarden2535
    @gilagarden2535 Год назад

    We're on the largest video platform rn, talking about monopoly?

  • @watjejanssen7535
    @watjejanssen7535 6 лет назад

    great docu,love to go there one day great nature ,food etc.

  • @boyishot69
    @boyishot69 2 года назад

    Good is, that today min. Price is 250$/Kg

  • @nthernstar8558
    @nthernstar8558 6 лет назад

    That was some TSA style groping😳

  • @imirrawashere
    @imirrawashere Год назад

    0:36 Those kids are like 13 and smoking. I know it's not uncommon but it's shocking to see something like that now that I'm an adult.

  • @TedBackus
    @TedBackus 3 года назад

    eveyone is rushing to make profit, & you end up with a chaotic market. this island needs structure, it cant get out of its own way which will leave them without the means, or the market , especially once vanilla prices drop, which they will soon as more secondary cultivators pop up in reaction of the price hike. Mexico will be a threat. the french did it right, the chinese prefer them to stay destitute

  • @davidazinger5639
    @davidazinger5639 6 лет назад

    need to figure out a way to get the money to the farmers. if you consolidate the farmers into "one" then they can set the price. They need to "organize" or they'll be exploited forever.

  • @hopethisworks1212
    @hopethisworks1212 6 лет назад +1

    Ah so. 'The chinese' is a collective term for a few chinese baddies with no morals or scruples. A very fair piece of reporting....................Clever in that it implies that it's the chinese government doing it.