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I strongly suggest doing a video on Olympe de Gouges -- wrote the Declaration of Women's Rights in 1791 in response to the National Assembly Declaration of Human Rights. Incredibly feminist and humanist far ahead of her time and sadly only known in very few circles despite being an incredible activist, author, and thinker. Would love to see you guys do a video about her!
I feel very sympathetic to her. She really did love her husband, and this exorbitant money spending isn't just an Antoinette thing, it was the system. The aristocracy and clergy didn't have to pay taxes. She was kinda a cultural scapegoat. She was also a woman, and a foreigner. A perfect target. Honestly, I feel like this overview is a bit more negative than it could be. She even tried to simplify her wardrobe by buying cheaper fabrics but this caused economic issues in the French silk companies in Lyon, causing more people to criticize her. But in all honesty she wasn't super-intelligent, nor was she trained in political savvy. She had been taught the Divine Right of Kings and didn't think too much deeper than that. She was just wrong place, wrong time.
Yes when she wore comfortable and inexpensive fabrics, she was criticized because it was beneath her station and unbecoming of a Queen of France. Marie Antoinette's two spinster aunt-in-laws, the Mesdames spent more money than she ever did. The Comte d'Artois had a pair of new shoes for everyday of the year. The Comte de Provence traveled extensively because he was always at odds with his brother Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette. He had expensive tastes and went into debt which Louis XVI paid off. The only decent sibling, Louis XVI had was his sister, Princess Elisabeth who advised them and remained at their side to the end. Things may have turned out different had Louis XVI took most of her advice as it usually was a hard line response. She viewed it a necessity to put down the revolutionaries by force if necessary. Ultimately it was Louis XVI, who failed Marie Antoinette. He put it best to her, that she "had come all the way from Austria, for this". Yet Marie Antoinette remained by his side even though she herself could have emigrated like so many other royals and nobles after the storming of the Bastille. By all accounts she fulfilled her duty as a Queen consort by having two male heirs. But she could never be right in the eyes of the French simply because she was born Austrian. She stepped foot into an adoptive country that was already headed towards disaster. While her mother, Empress Maria Theresa is generally viewed in a positive light historically, this was perhaps her greatest mistake. An attempt to reset the alliances after the Seven Years War by reforging it with Austria's long time rival France. Perhaps it is a mercy she did not live to see the downfall of her daughter.
Yeah definitely, just a product of the plutocratic society, it's not unique to her. We have people like that these days haha, super rich flaunting it at every turn Also most DEFINITELY the clergy were the ones most guilty here The nobility too of course, but the clergy were one of the most exploitative, ruthless, arrogant and horrifically opulent and corrupt in the history of their cult, and this is the one that also has the borgias and evangelicals, countless other centuries of exploitative behavior and fleecing everyone for their cash She didn't deserve to get her head snipped
Yup, however I disagree a little and chose to think she was smart. She had many daring escapes and tried her hardest to keep the monarchy alive, a courageous woman who loved her family, her last line proves this.
She owned slaves, she wanted the poor exacuted, she gorged on impotated food while her people starved in the street because bread was too expensive. And no she was not a scapegoat, she was a decent part of the reason France was like this at the time, not caring that children were dying in the streets and when she found out revolutionaries started to rise up and wanted to be treated like human beings, she wrote to other monarchs to send in their armies to wipe out the French people at any cost even if it meant spilling the blood of innocents.
She did not simply her wardrobe, she wore cotton dresses to make her look like a commoner which is responsible for the slave trade in France. So yeah that cute simple dress she wore that you love so much, Marie had fucking slaves to get it.
I feel the video doesn’t really tell too much of her story and it makes her look like she was like a Paris Hilton of her time, she really did attempt to make a connection to the people but she was already damned the moment she stepped in to France as she’s a foreigner so it doesn’t matter what she did, French needed someone to blame their frustrations on. Not saying she didn’t spend a lot and lived in luxury while the poor continued to be poor but she was brought up in that world and it’s the only thing she’s used to. She was a devoted mother though and even allowed her servants child to play with her own and she spoiled them as well as she loved children and being a mother.
Larry O exactly. She was also blamed for ruining the marriage by not having a child for so long. I feel like she was also blamed by her mother because king Louis wasn’t performing the act so she needed to seduce him even more. However I will not excuse her gambling and spending addictions.
Absolutely! Also, she wasn't just a foreigner, she was Austrian, which France had been at war with in the recent past. So many people resented her simply for that.
Seems like a weird tradition. Why isn't this tradition still done today? hhhhhhmmmmm.... - Maybe the crowd was thinking that if they were lucky- that they would see a show...
She wasn't illiterate. She had dyslexia, and a perfect ear, making her a natural at playing several instruments. She basically was wired to communicate w musical arts, as opposed to literary. Such things are genetically driven, such as ambidextrousness, which also has deep roots in my ancestral lineage. 😋
Illiterate means unable to read or write, and e was speaking of her education before she went to France. Since she could barely read it write German, o th less French, he is correct to say she was nearly illiterate. If she was dyslexic, that does not exclude illiteracy; quite often dyslexics have trouble reading, especially back then when people didn't understand it. And a 'perfect war's has nothing to do with literacy.
@@solarmaru49, it doesn't make you invaluable either. She was in a time period that wouldn't have had avenues for her to pursue a halfway decent education. She was treated about like Tyrion treats Jaime, she was seen as an idiot, and it was left as such by everyone, including her parents. Can't enjoy a traditional education when you have dyslexia, especially when most people around you think you're too dumb to learn anything in the first place. The first person is right; you're just an ass. Go be uneducated and dickish somewhere else, thanks.
I truly feel bad for Marie Antoinette; she was queen at a time when revolution was rapidly approaching and the people chose her as the symbol of everything to be hated about the aristocracy. She was the perfect scapegoat and was blamed for every, single bad-thing that happened, anywhere. Bad weather? Her fault. Step in dog-poo? Her fault. Carriage broke a wheel? Her fault. She got a MAJOR french make-over before she married Louis, as well. She was one of the few people to receive 18th century braces on her teeth (do a search on them, they were brutal). I suffered through modern-day braces for 4 years when I was in middle and highschool and they were excruciating (mostly because they were correcting an over-bite, which is a hell of a process). I can't imagine how much Marie Antoinette's braces must've hurt; wires wrapped around her teeth, pulling and pushing her poor teeth into place until they were perfect. But, I give the "dentist" (or whatever the title of the man who did it was) credit, because her teeth came-out *perfect* . Very impressive, to say the least...
She surely wasn’t a bad person and only lived the life she was taught to live BUT the people of France were fed up and starving. To them a wasteful queen didn’t deserve mercy and only through action could the system change. I’d say she had a good life and the quick end was the price for it.
The elite and the fans of monarchial elite will always find excuses for one person they adore like and idol,...but cant seem to see the numerous people in misery that didnt have a stage nor voice. And it always seems to be white women that are fans of these elitist women. What a surprise...
You’re sympathetic because she had braces like you? She was literally one of the most prominent arch conservatives in the French court and actively fought reforms. She quite literally caused her own demise and got what she deserved.
The French Revolutionaries that overthrows her husband weren’t good people the good side of the revolution wanted a constitutional monarchy led by layfettye
It's funny as much as she is the face of opulance of the French Revolution, her lifestyle was not much more lavish than most monarchs. In fact, Marie was not overtly political nor she had been much aware of what was going on in France politically till she was held captive with her husband. The "let them eat cake" attributed quote was a disparaging propaganda to rally the people against the aristocracy. They went as far as to make fun of Louis's alleged impotence and his love of lock-smithing.
Caligula Longhbottom Well actually the French Court was notorious for it's extravagance throughout Europe and it was entirely intentional as a way of projecting its power and majesty. The Austrian, Swedish and British monarchies were almost parsimonious in comparison. George IV was the closest we got to it in the UK, but he was savaged for it by the public and parliament was constantly curtailing his extravagance, no doubt mindful of what had happened in France.
This is wrong. At first,Marie wasn't political, but later on, her influence grew and she became the first queen consort to participate in the King's council since the days of Queen Marie de Medici, over 100 years earlier.
Once again, people ignore the historical perspective of the period in which she lived. She was nothing but a political pawn being a female child of royalty. She was married off in a political move to unite Austria with France. She had no power or choice in the male-dominated world in which she lived. She married into a system of excess created by Louis XIV, her great-great grandfather in law. The fall of the French was complex and centuries in the making. Of course, it was easier to blame the foreigner from Austria for all their ills. Sound familiar?
So many parallels with the current state of the world. And just as then, the super-rich are failing to assume any responsibility for everyone else. It's all going to happen again.
Her mother was not Elizabeth (Sissi) from Austria, the photo you posted, but Empress Maria Teresa ruler of Austria long before Sissi maried Emperor Francis Josehp. You are giving wrong visual information. Is not good.
He got her father wrong too, lol. The man on the picture is Emperor Francis II of HRE, Marie's father was Emperor Francis I of HRE. Such basic mistakes, ruins the whole video. And he does that in some other of his biography videos aswell.
I'm drawn to this story because I've been reading some of Alexandre Dumas' books, and I have reached those about this era in which she is a prominent character. Of course, I knew some of the main elements of their demise before starting the books, but I still found myself rooting for them because, although the French people had more than legitimate grievances towards them, I have always felt uneasy about the way they were taken out. I understood that it needed to happen, but it felt a bit like that feeling you can get when you watch animals hunt in documentaries, this feeling of inevitability. They're the ones who where crushed by the ruins of a collapsing system, despite the fact that they're probably not the ones who had inflicted the most damage on its foundations. These books from Dumas are parts of three series of books consisting of about 10 volumes set between the 16th and the 18th centuries, covering more than 200 years of French history, and in my opinion, Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette were far from being the worst monarchs depicted in these stories, but the circumstances were favorable for the revolution.
The photo used when mentioning her mother the first time was of Empress Sisi, not Maria Theresa. Can that be corrected? It felt a little jarring given the biography you did of Sisi.
You really undersell /mislabeled her Mother. Maria Theresa was by marriage the Holy Roman Empress and German Queen. In her own right she was the ARCHDUCHESS of Austria, Queen of Bohemia, Hungary, and Croatia. The only female ruler of the Habsburg dominions I might add. Her full title at the time of her husband's death was: Maria Theresa, by the Grace of God, Dowager Empress of the Romans, Queen of Hungary, of Bohemia, of Dalmatia, of Croatia, of Slavonia, of Galicia, of Lodomeria, etc.; Archduchess of Austria; Duchess of Burgundy, of Styria, of Carinthia and of Carniola; Grand Princess of Transylvania; Margravine of Moravia; Duchess of Brabant, of Limburg, of Luxemburg, of Guelders, of Württemberg, of Upper and Lower Silesia, of Milan, of Mantua, of Parma, of Piacenza, of Guastalla, of Auschwitz and of Zator; Princess of Swabia; Princely Countess of Habsburg, of Flanders, of Tyrol, of Hainault, of Kyburg, of Gorizia and of Gradisca; Margravine of Burgau, of Upper and Lower Lusatia; Countess of Namur; Lady of the Wendish Mark and of Mechlin; Dowager Duchess of Lorraine and Bar, Dowager Grand Duchess of Tuscany. Minus Empress of the Roman's, Duchess of Lorraine, and grand duchess of Tuscany the other titles were her's in her own right
Edie &Andy You should take a look at the Russian Emperor’s titles. By the Grace of God, We, NN, Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias, Moscow, Kiev, Vladimir, Novgorod; Tsar of Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland, Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Chersonese Taurian, Tsar of Georgia; Lord of Pskov and Grand Prince of Smolensk, Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia, Finland; Prince of Estland, Livland, Courland, Semigalia, Samogitia, Belostok, Karelia, Tver, Yugorsky land, Perm, Vyatka, Bolgar and others; Lord and Grand Prince of Nizhny Novgorod, Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslavl, Belozersk, Udorsky land, Obdorsk, Kondia, Vitebsk, Mstislav, and all of the northern countries Master; and Lord of Iberia, Kartli, and Kabardia lands and Armenian provinces; hereditary Sovereign and ruler of the Circassian and Mountainous Princes and of others; Lord of Turkestan; Heir of Norway; Duke of Schleswig-Holstein, Stormarn, Dithmarschen, and Oldenburg, and others, and others, and others.[2]
Let's not forget, she was an absolute beast when it came to ruling. She said that if she hadn't been pregnant, she'd be on the battlefield and when Prussia was winning the 7 years war, she appealed to the Hungarian Diet with her son on her lap and basically guilt tripped them into helping.
Marie's consumption was by no way excessive for a French queen at the time and Petit Trianon was in fact rather modest for a royal playground. France was bankrupt because of mismanagement and because of Louis XV's involvement in the American Revolution.
@Agata Piety it certainly contributed to it. But France was already in a terrible state financially even before this, as Louis XV had tried and failed to emulate his father's military successes, as well as overspending generally. Louis XVI seems to have spend his entire reign doing his best to balance the books and failing, due to being unable to introduce the necessary financial reforms. Does any of this sound rather similar to what is going on in 2018 with companies like Amazon and Apple?
Yes.Marie Antoinette was a victim of successful propaganda. Goebbels Used very similar propaganda against the Jewish people trying to show them as greedy, gluttonous etc. cartoons were very similar. The truth is that it is same story of history repeating itself a bunch of greedy politicians who wanted to get control of the country. Sounds so familiar: Like Clinton’s & Democratic Party in America.
Sheila: Yes, history has been repeating itself since the advent of man. The old adage, “Those whom do not learn from the past, are doomed to repeat it.” has been completely lost in the historical quagmire of the human race. SMH
fun fact Marie spend less money on herself and lavish things then the qeeuns before her. She even at one point focused her money on charity and the future of her children. She called out other rich people to stop spending so much money on themselves when the people were starving which caused them to work wit hone another against her as well
Thank you for the video. The blame for the disastrous state in France right before the Revolution rests with Louis XIV, who spent a crippling amount of money on building Versailles. Louis XIV also forced the French aristocracy to spend excessive, huge amounts of money on ridiculous (and obligatory) court clothing and to stay at Versailles near him, instead of at their country estates. If they did not stay at Versailles, the King would destroy them financially. He did this specifically to control the French nobility, which had historically been a threat to the crown. Louis XVI was a gentle, kind, and shy man who inherited a court and country which could only have been controlled by an intelligent strongman dictator, and maybe not even then. The economic situation (hunger) in France was so bad that an newly-formed democratic assembly could not possibly manage it any better than Louis XVI did himself. I do put some blame on Archduchess Maria Theresa, herself a competent ruler, for sending her young, politically naïve, and not-well-educated daughter to the French court. Hindsight is 20/20, of course. Maria Theresa could not have known the shit storm she was sending her daughter into.
Tina Louis XIV died 75 years prior to Revolution. Bourbon kings had plenty of time to look out after the country. Finances were in worse shape when Louis XIV came to power , as well as overall state of the country , than when he died. Cost of Versailles wasn't that catastrophic. Yes, it was big, but not that disastrous. I get that you maybe have read 2 pages about Louis XIV and don't know much.about his rule. Also clothes ? Really ? they didn't have serious affect on finances , Louis wars did. He had to keep huge armee and fleet on several fronts for decades fighting Europe. Plus later during his rule there were several famines in the country and terrible winter of 1709-1710. However Louis achieved and build for France far more than other Bourbon kings. However Sun King himself rested on shoulders of Mazarini, Richeliu, Henry IV. Versailles also was to boost even more prestige of France. Even centuries later Versailles would have major events and international conferences held inside it, plus gather flock of tourists. French could easily get rid of it or sell all the jewelry and expansive things inside it , but they didn't and they are not doing it now. Somebody should propose to Macron for it's destruction.
Kakha Gvelesiani - Destroy Versailles?! Blasphemer! ((lol)) Seriously, I'm not a religious person, but the idea of anything about Versailles being sold off or damaged, absolutely horrifies me. Although Versailles and it's original contents have not been preserved intact, the idea of destroying it now disgust me. History is so important that I think anybody who desires the destruction of it should be hung, or in this particular case guillotined perhaps.
BleuHãwaii I think that Maria Theresa was in the best position of anyone to know how poorly-read and lazy her beautiful & very young daughter was. Maria Theresa was a great ruler and a good mother; she could not have foreseen how ill-suited her daughter would be for her responsibilities. By the time Marie Antoinette had figured out how to behave, it was all much too late. I feel sad that her life came to such a brutal end. What a horrible time for everyone, including the seriously hungry poor people.
Pâte Nouille You are right that the French nobility had always been a threat to the King of France; Louis XIV brought them to heel by emasculating them. Perhaps there was no other way to do it.
Marie Antoinette's Mother was Maria Theresia, not Sissi, who is in the picture you showed. But never mind that. Great video! Here in Austria the curriculum of history is about 70% Habsburger/French Revolution, 30% World War II and 10% "wow other countries and continents exist too". So it says a lot about you/the team that I still found the video very interesting :D
Also her father was not Francis II(who is in the picture you showed) but in fact Francis I(Francis II grandfather)....a naming mistake and wrong picture.
Oh man I usually love videos you're in but this was a major disappointment. I assume and hope these are written by someone else. Either way, it draws into question other videos that I'm not knowledgeable in that are probably just as poorly researched as this one. Marie Antoinette was a scapegoat and she was certainly NOT 100% responsible for her undoing. She donated often, tried to figure out the tax issue yet had to deal with having little power + her husband's indecisiveness as well as her court. Her trial too was something that should NOT have been skipped as it shows the mindset of those in the French Revolution and how hungry they were for blood. This was extremely biased and extremely sad.
There are a lot of inaccuracies and factual errors in these videos. I suggest that you take them with a grain of salt and look up info about the subjects that interests you on your own.
gabinpan I agree. And no word about what was done to her when she was in prison: her children were abused, she could hear them cry; her son was given alcohol to testify against her; she was accused to have sex with her own children. She for sure didn't do everything the way she maybe should have, but there were lots of other members of the Royal court who have done much worse.
Wow!! So much info in 17 minutes. I feel it was thrust into my brain at lightening speed. I wish my history lessons would have been like this at school, I might have remembered more.
It's strange how people only associate France's debt crisis to funding the American Revolution. France was always in substantial debt since the time of Louis XIV 130 years earlier. And the greatest contributor to that debt, by a long shot, was the seven years war. The American Revolutions was just the latest in major spending and only hastened the fall of the monarchy, it's not the direct cause.
Hello everyone. We've been experimenting with a bit of a podcast (a few people were asking for audio versions so they can get Biographics while doing other things)! Fair warning: none of these are new biographies, but rather me having a bit more of a free form chat around the script. I'd love to know what you think, if these are useful, wanted etc :). Thanks, Simon. Links: iTunes: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/biographics-history-one-life-at-a-time/id1450405839?mt=2 Sitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/biographics-history-one-life-at-a-time Website: biographics.blubrry.net/ RSS: biographics.blubrry.net/feed/podcast/ Spotify: open.spotify.com/album/6N9PS4QXF1D0OWPk0Sxtb4 Trolled people: open.spotify.com/show/0JzjzwJcRqFZ3BcACtahh8?si=MG5HSm1oT0GTNm_r8_HQcg
I always felt so much sympathy for Marie Antoinette. Prior to her execution, she was kept in a cell close to a cell where they kept her son. The guards would torture and beat her son and she could hear his cries and screams. I don't think she deserved any of the treatment she received.
But I don’t think she ordered people to be tortured and what not and hey if they wanted to kill her fine but leave her children alone no reason for them to suffer as well
Judging by the letters, it seems that she had a pretty smart mother. If she had listened to her, Marie may have at least gotten out of the revolution alive.
Her mother was an incredibly powerful and politically savvy player on the European stage (something very unusual for a woman at the time). The problem was, that knowledge wasn't what Antoinette was brought up with. Also, Antoinette was not very smart. Like a Pomeranian puppy - cute, energetic, very eager to please, but not a lot going on upstairs. I have met people like that - nice people, but not the most blessed intellectually. She was more a casualty of her time and political circumstance than anything else (not sure she could have navigated out of being executed, even if she had been clever).
I have only watched 3 minutes, but several of the portraits you show are not of the people you say they are: namely, Marie's parents and Louis XV. A documentary should be accurate.
OMG! I was so pissed off by that! Why, oh why? There is so much portraits of those protagonists, why show portraits of Louis the XIII, Sissi and even once a gentleman obviously wearing Henri IV's style costume! What kind of research is that! And we are supposed to trust the content?
Right, because of the hundreds of photos taken by rabid media stalkers available to choose from, how dare they slap together pictures of her at different ages.
@@shadowmatrix0101 It's not the fact that the narrator is using different portraits of Marie Antoinette that depict her throughout life that is the problem. The portrait that they use for Louis XV (the grandfather of Louis XVI) is not even of Louis XV but that of Louis XIII. Louis XIII lived a century earlier than Louis XV and was the father of Louis XIV. That was one of the inaccuracies that I picked up. Then there was the wrong years in the wrong century, that sort of thing. Nothing to do with Marie Antoinette's portraits.
The picture you used in Marie Antoinette her own undoing that was supposedly a portrait of Empress Maria Teresa(Mother of Marie Antoinette )was actually Empress Elizabeth who did not live until the 19th century.
Oooops!i didn’t get further than the intro when I saw the portrait of empress “Sissy” while you talk about Marie Antoinette’s mother. There should be a portrait of: Maria Theresia ☝🏻
This video is ridiculous! half of the images aren’t even of the right time period. I think I’ve seen pictures from the 1500s 1600s and 1800s in the past two minuets
Marie did make an effort to reach out to the masses in her own way. There was this painting she had made of herself to be distributed to the masses where she looks like she's only wearing something resembling a shift but her goal was to show the masses that she too is simple, but it was taken more as scandalous since a queen shouldn't be wearing only a shift.
Yil Feliciano 😭😂, damn you can’t win. Anyone would get the guillotine back in those days. Remember the were burning women in America for dancing in the woods 😭
I’m not sure I believe that. There’s not one reputable history book stating Marie Antoinette cared about anything but herself. It’s also worth noting that if such a painting exists SHE commissioned it. So the artist painted what he asked her to and not necessarily something based in reality.
MrMiamiswaggz305 nobody was burnt during the witch trials in America. Not one person. That’s a widely believed lie. It did happen in Europe but it was the less popular form of execution for “witches”. They were mostly hanged or drowned but some were burnt. Just not in America.
Unfortunately, this episode is highly historically inaccurate, as are many of the photos displayed. Basic story is correct but details extremely wrong.
wysiwyg43 Since you’re interested, he used the wrong portraits for Marie Antoinette’s mother and father. The picture he used for Marie Antoinette’s mother is actually Sissi of Austria, who lived a century after Marie Antoinette. The picture of her ‘father’ is also incorrect...it is, in fact, a picture of her nephew Francis II. Marie Antoinette’s mother was Maria Thérèse, and her father was Francis I. Simon also used several other paintings inaccurately. I would take this video with a grain of salt.
Um...dude, you used completely the wrong pictures for Marie Antoinette’s mother and father. The picture you used for Marie Antoinette’s mother is actually Sissi of Austria, who lived a century after Marie Antoinette! The picture of her ‘father’ is also incorrect. In fact, the picture you used of Marie Antoinette’s father is, in fact, a picture of her nephew Francis II! Marie Antoinette’s mother was Maria Thérèse, and her father was Francis I. A painting you used depicting her ‘early years’ was a painting of her at the end of her life, during the French Revolution...and I’ve stopped watching after that, but I suspect that the rest of your video includes other inaccuracies, because it seems to me that you just googled ‘Marie Antoinette’, and then used whatever picture you felt like using, with no care for what; or who, those paintings really depicted! I like your other channels, but really, you need to work on getting your facts straight. This is the first video I’ve watched on this channel, and it’s very disappointing.
He also got a year wrong, I'm pretty sure he meant to say 1791. But thanks for the comment, I thought he was accurate with the paintings he used, thats disappointing.
I love her so much. I have several pictures of her hanging on the wall. I was at Versailles and saw her bedroom as it looked the day she fled for her life.
Another great video, Simon! A couple of errors: That's the wrong Louis at 3:46, a different man from a different century. And at 12:56 you said 1891 instead of 1791. By the way, Marie was courteous until the very end. On the scaffold she accidentally stepped on the executioner's foot, and she apologized.
The picture you showed at first for Marie’s mother was empress Elisabeth of Austria (commonly know as sissi) who was born in 1837 about 82 years after Marie Antionette.
You have photos of the wrong Bourbons in parts of this video. First one was when it was referenced that Marie Antoinette ran up to the King upon arriving in France for her wedding, the video shows the painting of Louis XIII, who died over a century before.
During The American War a distraught English mother crossed the channel and sought and gained audience with Marie Antoinette and begged her to intervene to prevent her son, a British soldier's hanging. The Queen was so moved by this mother's plea for her son that she took action and, unlike so many others right down to today, she did not just express words but did something about it and intervened diplomatically and saved his life. She was Queen when her husband, moved by Benjamin Franklin, agreed to help the Americans. To those who are cynical, his act is perceived as revenge against England, but this observation is after the event - winning - and convenient to deny that Louis XV1th and Marie Antoinette supported the American revolutionaries in their ideals. To think that she was just some empty-headed piece of fluff, extravagant, after being on the throne as a teenage young woman and had her youthful years behind her by the time France declared war is blind to the maturing process in any human being of normal sensibilities - of any young woman of feeling on the scene. Just self-serving and designed to keep her perceived as a silly young woman forever, a brain not in her head. The King tried for many years to solve the economic crises and did indeed balance the books twice with his treasurers one of whom was Necker, the best economist specialist in Europe whom The King employed twice to endeavour to find a solution to break the crises. The King and Queen had intervened on behalf of the Americans and Thomas Paine who knew the true reasons, voted against the guillotine for the King in the context of knowing and not having forgotten Louis and Antoinette's ( her friends called her Antoinette ) commitment to the American cause earlier. She never said, " let them eat cake. " It was said by the mistress of the King of the previous reign and possibly as a positive suggestion. "Cake " was the name for sweetbread and was cheaper and cheaper to supply. The bankruptcy caused to France by its involvement in the war, Napoleon said, was one of the two reasons for The French Revolution. The other was The Diamond Necklace Case in which Cardinal Rohen and the Countess de la Motte framed the Queen. Enquiry records are available. The Queen was frivolous when she was young but made a conscious decision to change her ways. She had refused the necklace on the grounds it was extravagant and this reason was ignored and still is. She was defamed, called a lesbian not that there is anything wrong with that ordinarily, but she was not, and smeared as a slut and accused of sexual perversions with the Countess de la Motte, Madame de Polinac and The Princesse de Lamballe who was stabbed in the stomach, her breasts cut off, her vulva cut out in the street and then her head on a pike waved at Marie Antoinette's window of her prison cell for her to see her best friend while The Princesse's body was dragged through the streets. Her trial was conducted well by her and she took control and argued constitutional issues proving she had matured and made the decision years earlier to change her whimsical nature and apply herself seriously to events, and she did not betray France as France had an illegal government obtained by a coup d'etat, The Revolution - certainly by the Jacobins, Robespierre, architect of The Reign of Terror, a serial murderer of monumental proportions and Marat, " executed " summarily by Charlotte Corday, who was a true liberal, the real representative of liberty, equality fraternity, as was Marie Antoinette, who, as wife of Louis XV1th jointly enabled the ushering in of the start of liberty, equality and fraternity embodied in Thomas Paine's The Declaration of The Rights Of Man, by enabling its inception by declaring war in the first place, thus finally enabling General Rochambeaud and Admiral la Grasse the opportunity finally to design the pincer movement that won victory at Yorktown and won the war - it was not impostors like Marat, Robespierre and Fournier who represented liberty, equality and fraternity, words for them, the pretense behind which they operated - their vile actions prove the opposite - they were psychotic dictators and Marie Antoinette and Louis XV1th were not accused of that - that is one thing - about the only thing they were not accused of. Louis XV1th was /is recognized as a decent man, acknowledged - Marie Antoinette was an Absolute Monarchist but this form of government at the time was the system that got results in winning The American War and this is the real history that should be written. The worst weather for years wiped the crops out and caused the bread crisis in 1787. Her utmost bravery at the guillotine, scaffold, was acknowledged by most of her arch-enemies except most notably the odious Fournier, her prosecutor, disliked even by his allies, and the painter David, who couldn't find it in himself to have a nice word to say about her even then. What she did for them is why the Americans accepted The Statue of Liberty.
i have done my research, she was denounced and executed for her moral character which included incest, adultery and child abuse which we of course now know to be all fabricated then treason. Louis proved an incompetent king and so his wife also shared the blame, the fact is that none of them were monsters. The revolutionary tribunal was more interested in collecting royal heads then doing real justice to France or even a little good to that country. There were severe shortages of bread which they too failed to fix. In the end they too got what they deserved an untimely end at the guillotine.
When the king and queen who are supposed to rule their country are completely incompetent and citizens suffer because of it, then they deserve whatever is going their way
Tic Tac she was a queen consort. Her only job was to produce an heir to the throne. She wasn’t supposed to rule or involve herself in politics. She was very much a victim of the times.
Why do they keep showing Louis XIV every time they mention Louis XV or XVI? Did I also see Louis XIV's father when they mentioned Louis XV? Inaccurate.
Wow, what a slanted and biased bio. I love watching you Simon but to remove all context of Antoinette's life and misquote her left and right is extremely unfair. Her last words were actually "Forgive me, sir - I did not do it on purpose" after she stepped on the foot of the executioner. She has been slagged off for centuries and this video just continues in that same tradition.
Wow, so you mean you were alive to hear what her last word actually were? Perhaps you should write a book about what actually happened since you were there and knew exactly what was said and happened.
I know that people in History like to keep it word perfect , nothing wrong with that, Mari Antoinette did not have much sway in her time as queen , she was kept away from things elating to life outside of the palace , however the heinous way she was treated during the revolution , she must have seen her execution as a blessing , it's the little Dauphines that suffered the most he must have thought he had entered into a nightmare ,I can Imagen him during the quite nights thinking and wanting his mother, the mob knew this and enjoyed telling him dreadful things about his mother , ha was molested , physically, and mentally it would be enough to drive any well balanced person. Insane. It is what happened in any war, soldiers seemed to lose their sense of reason, And it brings out an animal creature from men and women , they act like animals, and do things forgetting there would be consequences. It's a sad world we live in, our world is beautifully made, beautiful scenery, breath taking beauty , it's mankind who have ruined it, with bombs , atom bombs, guns, drugs. Cruelty to animals and vulnerable people. I think it was that great writer Hemingway that said he could never understand man's inhumanity to man, we all must have had that thaught at sometime in our lives.
I agree....studying her and the time period, she was screwed over the min she landed in France. Louis father already had the country in ruin financially and they inherited his problems with the country. Very sad actually. She did try to understand the french people, but they disliked her from the getgo. Her children were also executed sadly. What hurt the country even more, was they financed the American revolution, which didn't sit well with the French people. Yes she spent money, but all the rich in court did. Again, the French didn't like her from the beginning. That and not being taught things was her undoing.
Wrong again. 6:20. Louis the XVI's father was Louis, Dauphin of France (1729-1765). Marie and Louis (the future king) were married in 1770. Louis XV (1710-1774) was Louis XVI's grandfather! The marriage was consummated seven years after their nuptials in 1777.
thank you so much for putting the subtitle on the video! as a non-english speaker it helps me understand more about your video, i really appreciate it :)
I Enjoy your programs very much but, it would be much better if you showed accurate photos of the people you are talking about. The photos you showed when talking about her husband (who was the GRANDson of Louis XV, not son!). The photos you showed was not of Louis XVI!!!
Biographics (Simon) this was my 1st video of your new channel. Having had studied M.A. and these very things I must say you did brilliant work! I subscribed and turned on the notifications. I even learned a thing or two. I'll be watching the rest.
Would a foreign princess be indulged and given free reign of France's coffers at that time period? no way. Historical hit piece, scapegoating and or an angry mob organizer "looking for a reason." That's just my opinion.
You say "jury of all males," as if it would've made a difference. Actually the women of France hated her the most. They'd have called for her execution in an instant. Also, her final words were dope. Well done Marie.
Jason Possibly. But possibly not. If you know anything about the trial you'll know that they, the tribunal, tried to accuse her of having an incestuous relation with her son. When she called them out on it and turned to all the mothers in the room the women started shouting in her support; at which point the false charge of incest was recanted. If those women at the trial hated Marie Antoinette, they certainly didn't hate her in those moments.
@@bananaborz1 revolutions are done by a well organized few and have nothing to do with supposedly unhappy 'masses'. Nobody asks them anything. Then in retrospect all sorts of lies are spread about the victims to justify the act. Oh how important it is to think for yourself and see right through these empty conventionalities.
Love this! However, I would just like to point out that 1) some of the portraits seem to be of the wrong people. At 0:55, the portrait is of Francis II, Marie Antoinette's nephew, and not her father Francis I; 2) At 2:56, the portrait is of Louis XIII, not Louis XV (her grandfather-in-law) whom she hugged; and at 3) even at their marriage, Louis' father had already passed away, along with his mother. His grandfather passed the throne to him upon his death.
She was so far removed from the everyday lives of the French commoners. I don't think she understood famine and what they went through, she was pampered and waited on hand and foot her whole life. That being said she should have listened to her mother more. She also should have left when her husband didn't want to flee.
The pictures at 0:53 are NOT Marie Antoinettes parents! The woman in the image is Empress Elisabeth ( aka Sisi, born 1837 died 1898 )of Austria and the man is Francis II, Holy Roman Emperor (born 1768, died 1835 ) Many other images are wrong as well, they don´t show the person you are talking about. Bad checking of the resources.
Thank you for sharing this. Marie Antoinette has always been a historical creature that peeks my interests. As I remember, she was not exactly happy about the arranged marriage to Louie IV. I would like to think that she like any other woman in her position, would find ways to compensate for the lackluster. Let's face it, Louie was not exactly the catch of the decade. So why not? She found ways to amuse herself in grandiose & luxurious ways.
I had to stop before 1 minute because the image you've show of Marie Antoinette's "mother" is the Empress Elisabeth, who was born more than 200 years later that Marie Antoinette's death! Sorry, but how can you make a hitorical video without checking your facts?
In actuality, Princess Elisabeth aka Empress Sisi was only about 80 years younger than Queen Marie Antionette. I believe the host used Elisabeths photo only to represent the Austrian Habsburg family that Marie Antionette was born into.
Oh man, you really showed Empress Elisabeth (aka "Sisi") as her mother. SO WRONG! Marie Antoinette was the daughter of Arch Duchess (NOT Empress) Maria Theresia. Also, she was born in Vienna, not in Hallstadt, which is depictured in this video.
Lukas Drechsel-Burkhard the mother of Marie Antoinette was Maria Teresa who WAS an Empress.Marie Antoinette was the arch dutchess as were all female offspring of the Empress Maria Teresa.
Neither is the fiancee,the name is right but the visible painting is in fact of Louis Auguste, Duke of Maine(legitimised son of Louis XIV and Madame of Montespan)
No.... Now.... YOU are wrong... Maria Theresa (not Theresia either) was the EMPRESS of Austria her daughters were ARCH DUCHESSES. Don't be ridiculous. Everyone who knows anything about French history (and I'm beginning to wonder on youtube people spew some real incorrect crap) knows the great EMPRESS Maria Theresa. As a voracious reader of history especially French history and archaeology it really pisses me off how incorrect people are. This moron should NOT be making videos on historical subjects if he can't even research his subject., BUT YOU are worse you get all huffy and correct him and then make a mistake that a 5th grader would know. Maria Theresa an ARCHDUCHESS???????? And who was her husband FRANK??? LOLOLOL Come on now you know it....Francis. yeah that's right. What an idiot you are.
Thank you I loved this so much. Marie is my favourite monarch of all time. And I still love her story. She certainly did live a life on the world stage.
Dang! You immediately lost me when when you showed Empress Elizabeth as Empress Maria Theresa! They're a whole century apart from each other. It's like referring to Queen Victoria and simultaneously showing a picture of Queen Elizabeth II.
Her frivolities and desire for constant luxury caused the death of everything around her. She prized her opulence over everything else and deserved the punishment she got.
I've always said that she was given an unfair reputation; she really wasn't any worse than any other royalty during that time. Also, her husband was a damn weakling - at least she planned their escape. Neither of them truly deserved their fate, but I understand why some people felt they had do execute them. You really should be more careful when making these videos, with some of the years being wrong and wrong pictures being used for people. That sadly doesn't give the best impression.
I'm a historian and my specialization is in women in the French Revolution, I study a lot about Marie Antoinette too, and the amount of misinformation in this video is absurd :c what are your sources?
I once had a history class where Marie Antoinette and Louis the 16th were painted in a more positive light. I've heard alternate sides of this story. I think King Louis' problem was that he was too slow to act during a time of crisis. Plus, he and Marie Antoinette were young and not yet mature when they inherited France.
Finns Mom I do so agree with you. I worry that something seen on the Internet will be taken to be the truth and history will be changed. Two films on release, about Mary, Queen of Scots and Queen Anne are going to do the same.
@@hadar675 well, make sure not to read American Made history books, I was reading through one of mine, and ig said that in the 1600's Portugal owned all of India, Oman, and west Africa
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Biographics, please remake this with the corrections it needs.
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Simon! Correct the mistakes, please. It’s quite disappointing to see them in your show- are you joining mojo?
I strongly suggest doing a video on Olympe de Gouges -- wrote the Declaration of Women's Rights in 1791 in response to the National Assembly Declaration of Human Rights. Incredibly feminist and humanist far ahead of her time and sadly only known in very few circles despite being an incredible activist, author, and thinker. Would love to see you guys do a video about her!
You should probably take this down and correct your visual mistakes. Y'all got time.
I feel very sympathetic to her. She really did love her husband, and this exorbitant money spending isn't just an Antoinette thing, it was the system. The aristocracy and clergy didn't have to pay taxes. She was kinda a cultural scapegoat. She was also a woman, and a foreigner. A perfect target.
Honestly, I feel like this overview is a bit more negative than it could be. She even tried to simplify her wardrobe by buying cheaper fabrics but this caused economic issues in the French silk companies in Lyon, causing more people to criticize her. But in all honesty she wasn't super-intelligent, nor was she trained in political savvy. She had been taught the Divine Right of Kings and didn't think too much deeper than that. She was just wrong place, wrong time.
Yes when she wore comfortable and inexpensive fabrics, she was criticized because it was beneath her station and unbecoming of a Queen of France. Marie Antoinette's two spinster aunt-in-laws, the Mesdames spent more money than she ever did. The Comte d'Artois had a pair of new shoes for everyday of the year. The Comte de Provence traveled extensively because he was always at odds with his brother Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette. He had expensive tastes and went into debt which Louis XVI paid off. The only decent sibling, Louis XVI had was his sister, Princess Elisabeth who advised them and remained at their side to the end. Things may have turned out different had Louis XVI took most of her advice as it usually was a hard line response. She viewed it a necessity to put down the revolutionaries by force if necessary.
Ultimately it was Louis XVI, who failed Marie Antoinette. He put it best to her, that she "had come all the way from Austria, for this". Yet Marie Antoinette remained by his side even though she herself could have emigrated like so many other royals and nobles after the storming of the Bastille. By all accounts she fulfilled her duty as a Queen consort by having two male heirs. But she could never be right in the eyes of the French simply because she was born Austrian. She stepped foot into an adoptive country that was already headed towards disaster.
While her mother, Empress Maria Theresa is generally viewed in a positive light historically, this was perhaps her greatest mistake. An attempt to reset the alliances after the Seven Years War by reforging it with Austria's long time rival France. Perhaps it is a mercy she did not live to see the downfall of her daughter.
Yeah definitely, just a product of the plutocratic society, it's not unique to her.
We have people like that these days haha, super rich flaunting it at every turn
Also most DEFINITELY the clergy were the ones most guilty here
The nobility too of course, but the clergy were one of the most exploitative, ruthless, arrogant and horrifically opulent and corrupt in the history of their cult, and this is the one that also has the borgias and evangelicals, countless other centuries of exploitative behavior and fleecing everyone for their cash
She didn't deserve to get her head snipped
Yup, however I disagree a little and chose to think she was smart. She had many daring escapes and tried her hardest to keep the monarchy alive, a courageous woman who loved her family, her last line proves this.
She owned slaves, she wanted the poor exacuted, she gorged on impotated food while her people starved in the street because bread was too expensive. And no she was not a scapegoat, she was a decent part of the reason France was like this at the time, not caring that children were dying in the streets and when she found out revolutionaries started to rise up and wanted to be treated like human beings, she wrote to other monarchs to send in their armies to wipe out the French people at any cost even if it meant spilling the blood of innocents.
She did not simply her wardrobe, she wore cotton dresses to make her look like a commoner which is responsible for the slave trade in France. So yeah that cute simple dress she wore that you love so much, Marie had fucking slaves to get it.
As she was about to be executed, she accidentaly stepped on her executioner's foot and her last words were "Pardon me, sir, I didn't mean to do it".
Her last words were in fact an almost inaudible prayer where she bid her children goodbye. This was on the scaffold just before the blade fell.
She was so trained to be "polite."
Not i didn't mean to do it, but it was not done on purpose, that was her last spoken words
And why should I care about that, those words are so romanticized that it means nothing now.
That was Anne Boleyn who said that not Marie Antoinette.
France in the 1700s: I like being extra and bougie.
Marie Antoinette: Me too!
France: No not you
Lol
Martha Washington: give me America in 1700s
Okay, why not me ??
@@marieantoinette2494 hello your majesty
@@marieantoinette2494 your majesty they basically hated you cause your Austrian
"Let them eat Taco Bell Crunchwrap Supreme"
She wouldn't have died if she did.
They aren’t *that* desperate
Welp she just gave her country a bad day spent in the restroom
Yep, let them eat themselves to death.
Kyurem Bael *wow they aren’t THAT desperate*
I feel the video doesn’t really tell too much of her story and it makes her look like she was like a Paris Hilton of her time, she really did attempt to make a connection to the people but she was already damned the moment she stepped in to France as she’s a foreigner so it doesn’t matter what she did, French needed someone to blame their frustrations on. Not saying she didn’t spend a lot and lived in luxury while the poor continued to be poor but she was brought up in that world and it’s the only thing she’s used to. She was a devoted mother though and even allowed her servants child to play with her own and she spoiled them as well as she loved children and being a mother.
Larry O ikr!!!
Larry O I agree!
Larry O indeed, she was the autrichienne after all
Larry O exactly. She was also blamed for ruining the marriage by not having a child for so long. I feel like she was also blamed by her mother because king Louis wasn’t performing the act so she needed to seduce him even more. However I will not excuse her gambling and spending addictions.
Absolutely! Also, she wasn't just a foreigner, she was Austrian, which France had been at war with in the recent past. So many people resented her simply for that.
I can't imagine how anyone could consummate the marriage with a crowd of people behind a curtain 🙄... certainly not a pair of virgins.
Seems like a weird tradition. Why isn't this tradition still done today? hhhhhhmmmmm....
- Maybe the crowd was thinking that if they were lucky- that they would see a show...
My family still does this
I could
😂😂😂😂 i agree
😂😂😂😂 I swear that's so awkward... Poor prince was probably traumatized for 7 years after that.😂😂😂😂
She wasn't illiterate. She had dyslexia, and a perfect ear, making her a natural at playing several instruments. She basically was wired to communicate w musical arts, as opposed to literary. Such things are genetically driven, such as ambidextrousness, which also has deep roots in my ancestral lineage. 😋
Music doesn’t automatically mean you’re a valuable person. Sorry alternative culture person.
Illiterate means unable to read or write, and e was speaking of her education before she went to France. Since she could barely read it write German, o th less French, he is correct to say she was nearly illiterate. If she was dyslexic, that does not exclude illiteracy; quite often dyslexics have trouble reading, especially back then when people didn't understand it. And a 'perfect war's has nothing to do with literacy.
so you're dyslexic? I see....
@@solarmaru49, it doesn't make you invaluable either. She was in a time period that wouldn't have had avenues for her to pursue a halfway decent education. She was treated about like Tyrion treats Jaime, she was seen as an idiot, and it was left as such by everyone, including her parents. Can't enjoy a traditional education when you have dyslexia, especially when most people around you think you're too dumb to learn anything in the first place. The first person is right; you're just an ass. Go be uneducated and dickish somewhere else, thanks.
@@solarmaru49 wtf is this?
I truly feel bad for Marie Antoinette; she was queen at a time when revolution was rapidly approaching and the people chose her as the symbol of everything to be hated about the aristocracy. She was the perfect scapegoat and was blamed for every, single bad-thing that happened, anywhere. Bad weather? Her fault. Step in dog-poo? Her fault. Carriage broke a wheel? Her fault.
She got a MAJOR french make-over before she married Louis, as well. She was one of the few people to receive 18th century braces on her teeth (do a search on them, they were brutal). I suffered through modern-day braces for 4 years when I was in middle and highschool and they were excruciating (mostly because they were correcting an over-bite, which is a hell of a process). I can't imagine how much Marie Antoinette's braces must've hurt; wires wrapped around her teeth, pulling and pushing her poor teeth into place until they were perfect. But, I give the "dentist" (or whatever the title of the man who did it was) credit, because her teeth came-out *perfect* . Very impressive, to say the least...
Such is the power of the ideals of the French Revolution, that even now most people cannot separate the person from their class
She surely wasn’t a bad person and only lived the life she was taught to live BUT the people of France were fed up and starving. To them a wasteful queen didn’t deserve mercy and only through action could the system change. I’d say she had a good life and the quick end was the price for it.
The elite and the fans of monarchial elite will always find excuses for one person they adore like and idol,...but cant seem to see the numerous people in misery that didnt have a stage nor voice. And it always seems to be white women that are fans of these elitist women. What a surprise...
Was she responsible for your stupid comment too?
You’re sympathetic because she had braces like you? She was literally one of the most prominent arch conservatives in the French court and actively fought reforms. She quite literally caused her own demise and got what she deserved.
I adore Marie Antoinette I have since I was 15 I was quite naive but I loved that playful side to her and how she has so much love to give
The French Revolutionaries that overthrows her husband weren’t good people the good side of the revolution wanted a constitutional monarchy led by layfettye
It's funny as much as she is the face of opulance of the French Revolution, her lifestyle was not much more lavish than most monarchs. In fact, Marie was not overtly political nor she had been much aware of what was going on in France politically till she was held captive with her husband.
The "let them eat cake" attributed quote was a disparaging propaganda to rally the people against the aristocracy. They went as far as to make fun of Louis's alleged impotence and his love of lock-smithing.
yep. he just continues to spill out lies about her and misinformation. 'louis father died' louis xv was louis xvi's grandfather, not father.
Caligula Longhbottom Well actually the French Court was notorious for it's extravagance throughout Europe and it was entirely intentional as a way of projecting its power and majesty. The Austrian, Swedish and British monarchies were almost parsimonious in comparison. George IV was the closest we got to it in the UK, but he was savaged for it by the public and parliament was constantly curtailing his extravagance, no doubt mindful of what had happened in France.
This is wrong. At first,Marie wasn't political, but later on, her influence grew and she became the first queen consort to participate in the King's council since the days of Queen Marie de Medici, over 100 years earlier.
But that *is* political, having a disinterested ruling family is what inspired the populace to rise in the first place.
Let them eat cake has been attributed to the second wife of Louis XIV, who said, So the poor cannot afford bread, let them eat brioche.
Once again, people ignore the historical perspective of the period in which she lived. She was nothing but a political pawn being a female child of royalty. She was married off in a political move to unite Austria with France. She had no power or choice in the male-dominated world in which she lived. She married into a system of excess created by Louis XIV, her great-great grandfather in law. The fall of the French was complex and centuries in the making. Of course, it was easier to blame the foreigner from Austria for all their ills. Sound familiar?
So many parallels with the current state of the world. And just as then, the super-rich are failing to assume any responsibility for everyone else. It's all going to happen again.
No it doesn't sound familar...but nice try
This is actually a genuine question- what are you referring to when you ask if it sounds familiar?
CarnivorousCowMan yeah I was curious about that too
CarnivorousCowMan i have no idea who they were thinking of but when she said “sounds familiar” i instantly thought of sansa stark
Her mother was not Elizabeth (Sissi) from Austria, the photo you posted, but Empress Maria Teresa ruler of Austria long before Sissi maried Emperor Francis Josehp. You are giving wrong visual information. Is not good.
Good observation. I noticed that too and got confused because he posted a photo of Sissi.
noticed that too, completely wrong person and more than a hundred years off
He got her father wrong too, lol. The man on the picture is Emperor Francis II of HRE, Marie's father was Emperor Francis I of HRE. Such basic mistakes, ruins the whole video. And he does that in some other of his biography videos aswell.
There were a lot of paintings that he used in the wrong way. It’s very disappointing.
he also said louis xv was louis xv's father... he was his grandfather.
I'm drawn to this story because I've been reading some of Alexandre Dumas' books, and I have reached those about this era in which she is a prominent character. Of course, I knew some of the main elements of their demise before starting the books, but I still found myself rooting for them because, although the French people had more than legitimate grievances towards them, I have always felt uneasy about the way they were taken out. I understood that it needed to happen, but it felt a bit like that feeling you can get when you watch animals hunt in documentaries, this feeling of inevitability. They're the ones who where crushed by the ruins of a collapsing system, despite the fact that they're probably not the ones who had inflicted the most damage on its foundations.
These books from Dumas are parts of three series of books consisting of about 10 volumes set between the 16th and the 18th centuries, covering more than 200 years of French history, and in my opinion, Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette were far from being the worst monarchs depicted in these stories, but the circumstances were favorable for the revolution.
I hope you've read enough to realize the powers behind this revolution that never needed to happen.
The photo used when mentioning her mother the first time was of Empress Sisi, not Maria Theresa. Can that be corrected? It felt a little jarring given the biography you did of Sisi.
You really undersell /mislabeled her Mother. Maria Theresa was by marriage the Holy Roman Empress and German Queen. In her own right she was the ARCHDUCHESS of Austria, Queen of Bohemia, Hungary, and Croatia. The only female ruler of the Habsburg dominions I might add.
Her full title at the time of her husband's death was:
Maria Theresa, by the Grace of God, Dowager Empress of the Romans, Queen of Hungary, of Bohemia, of Dalmatia, of Croatia, of Slavonia, of Galicia, of Lodomeria, etc.; Archduchess of Austria; Duchess of Burgundy, of Styria, of Carinthia and of Carniola; Grand Princess of Transylvania; Margravine of Moravia; Duchess of Brabant, of Limburg, of Luxemburg, of Guelders, of Württemberg, of Upper and Lower Silesia, of Milan, of Mantua, of Parma, of Piacenza, of Guastalla, of Auschwitz and of Zator; Princess of Swabia; Princely Countess of Habsburg, of Flanders, of Tyrol, of Hainault, of Kyburg, of Gorizia and of Gradisca; Margravine of Burgau, of Upper and Lower Lusatia; Countess of Namur; Lady of the Wendish Mark and of Mechlin; Dowager Duchess of Lorraine and Bar, Dowager Grand Duchess of Tuscany.
Minus Empress of the Roman's, Duchess of Lorraine, and grand duchess of Tuscany the other titles were her's in her own right
Gareth Barrowman Jesus fucking Christ. And I thought Daenerys’ titles were never ending lol
Edie &Andy You should take a look at the Russian Emperor’s titles.
By the Grace of God, We, NN, Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias, Moscow, Kiev, Vladimir, Novgorod; Tsar of Kazan, Tsar of Astrakhan, Tsar of Poland, Tsar of Siberia, Tsar of Chersonese Taurian, Tsar of Georgia; Lord of Pskov and Grand Prince of Smolensk, Lithuania, Volhynia, Podolia, Finland; Prince of Estland, Livland, Courland, Semigalia, Samogitia, Belostok, Karelia, Tver, Yugorsky land, Perm, Vyatka, Bolgar and others; Lord and Grand Prince of Nizhny Novgorod, Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsk, Rostov, Yaroslavl, Belozersk, Udorsky land, Obdorsk, Kondia, Vitebsk, Mstislav, and all of the northern countries Master; and Lord of Iberia, Kartli, and Kabardia lands and Armenian provinces; hereditary Sovereign and ruler of the Circassian and Mountainous Princes and of others; Lord of Turkestan; Heir of Norway; Duke of Schleswig-Holstein, Stormarn, Dithmarschen, and Oldenburg, and others, and others, and others.[2]
Random Guy sweet baby Satan. That’s beyond overkill lol
Random Guy that looks the same length, more or less, as the titles of Maria Theresa
Let's not forget, she was an absolute beast when it came to ruling. She said that if she hadn't been pregnant, she'd be on the battlefield and when Prussia was winning the 7 years war, she appealed to the Hungarian Diet with her son on her lap and basically guilt tripped them into helping.
Do a biography on Catherine de Medici! That would be *very* interesting!
UwU indeed!
I agree. Madame Serpent, she was dubbed.
UwU loved her!
yes Catarina de Medici would be good
Hell yeah. Make a documentary about the Black Queen.
Marie's consumption was by no way excessive for a French queen at the time and Petit Trianon was in fact rather modest for a royal playground. France was bankrupt because of mismanagement and because of Louis XV's involvement in the American Revolution.
Louis XV was dead during the American Revolution.
Do you mean Louis XVI Marie Antionette's husband.
@Agata Piety it certainly contributed to it. But France was already in a terrible state financially even before this, as Louis XV had tried and failed to emulate his father's military successes, as well as overspending generally. Louis XVI seems to have spend his entire reign doing his best to balance the books and failing, due to being unable to introduce the necessary financial reforms. Does any of this sound rather similar to what is going on in 2018 with companies like Amazon and Apple?
Yes.Marie Antoinette was a victim of successful propaganda. Goebbels Used very similar propaganda against the Jewish people trying to show them as greedy, gluttonous etc. cartoons were very similar. The truth is that it is same story of history repeating itself a bunch of greedy politicians who wanted to get control of the country. Sounds so familiar: Like Clinton’s & Democratic Party in America.
Sheila: Yes, history has been repeating itself since the advent of man. The old adage, “Those whom do not learn from the past, are doomed to repeat it.” has been completely lost in the historical quagmire of the human race. SMH
Louis XV was dead during the American Revolution.
Sloppy research. He uses a painting of Empress Elizabeth, wife of Franz Joseph in the 19th century
He also used the portrait of Marie Antoinette's nephew, Francis ii when her father was Francis i
If that's genuinely your only complaint, then this isn't that sloppy now is it
@@Kafen8d well not only that, portraits of the Dauphin and of Louis XV are wrong too.
Keen eye
@@trobairitz8654 still using portraits as an example. I've seen so much worse research done. So 🤷♀️🤷♀️
fun fact Marie spend less money on herself and lavish things then the qeeuns before her. She even at one point focused her money on charity and the future of her children. She called out other rich people to stop spending so much money on themselves when the people were starving which caused them to work wit hone another against her as well
Well the queens before her were queens when France was not in financial ruin
@@adityas3587 no france was alreayd bankrupt even before antoinette
Fun fact prince cheated patch’s his suit and had the same pair of shoes for over 40 years
Too young to be kings and queens with no life experience they were setup to fail
Look at how many monarchs were around that age when they assumed the throne.
I agree
@@stevenschnepp576 not all of those monarchs were given a country on the brink of revolution, plus some people are just not ruling material
@@micow9951 Neither point really refutes mine, though.
@wings of a butterfly Louis XIV is a good example. Mostly.
Thank you for the video.
The blame for the disastrous state in France right before the Revolution rests with Louis XIV, who spent a crippling amount of money on building Versailles. Louis XIV also forced the French aristocracy to spend excessive, huge amounts of money on ridiculous (and obligatory) court clothing and to stay at Versailles near him, instead of at their country estates. If they did not stay at Versailles, the King would destroy them financially. He did this specifically to control the French nobility, which had historically been a threat to the crown.
Louis XVI was a gentle, kind, and shy man who inherited a court and country which could only have been controlled by an intelligent strongman dictator, and maybe not even then. The economic situation (hunger) in France was so bad that an newly-formed democratic assembly could not possibly manage it any better than Louis XVI did himself.
I do put some blame on Archduchess Maria Theresa, herself a competent ruler, for sending her young, politically naïve, and not-well-educated daughter to the French court. Hindsight is 20/20, of course. Maria Theresa could not have known the shit storm she was sending her daughter into.
Tina Louis XIV died 75 years prior to Revolution. Bourbon kings had plenty of time to look out after the country. Finances were in worse shape when Louis XIV came to power , as well as overall state of the country , than when he died. Cost of Versailles wasn't that catastrophic. Yes, it was big, but not that disastrous. I get that you maybe have read 2 pages about Louis XIV and don't know much.about his rule. Also clothes ? Really ? they didn't have serious affect on finances , Louis wars did. He had to keep huge armee and fleet on several fronts for decades fighting Europe. Plus later during his rule there were several famines in the country and terrible winter of 1709-1710. However Louis achieved and build for France far more than other Bourbon kings. However Sun King himself rested on shoulders of Mazarini, Richeliu, Henry IV. Versailles also was to boost even more prestige of France. Even centuries later Versailles would have major events and international conferences held inside it, plus gather flock of tourists. French could easily get rid of it or sell all the jewelry and expansive things inside it , but they didn't and they are not doing it now. Somebody should propose to Macron for it's destruction.
@@kakhagvelesiani3877 destruction of a monument and time in history? Are you insane?
Kakha Gvelesiani - Destroy Versailles?! Blasphemer! ((lol)) Seriously, I'm not a religious person, but the idea of anything about Versailles being sold off or damaged, absolutely horrifies me. Although Versailles and it's original contents have not been preserved intact, the idea of destroying it now disgust me. History is so important that I think anybody who desires the destruction of it should be hung, or in this particular case guillotined perhaps.
BleuHãwaii I think that Maria Theresa was in the best position of anyone to know how poorly-read and lazy her beautiful & very young daughter was. Maria Theresa was a great ruler and a good mother; she could not have foreseen how ill-suited her daughter would be for her responsibilities. By the time Marie Antoinette had figured out how to behave, it was all much too late. I feel sad that her life came to such a brutal end. What a horrible time for everyone, including the seriously hungry poor people.
Pâte Nouille You are right that the French nobility had always been a threat to the King of France; Louis XIV brought them to heel by emasculating them. Perhaps there was no other way to do it.
Marie Antoinette's Mother was Maria Theresia, not Sissi, who is in the picture you showed.
But never mind that. Great video!
Here in Austria the curriculum of history is about 70% Habsburger/French Revolution, 30% World War II and 10% "wow other countries and continents exist too".
So it says a lot about you/the team that I still found the video very interesting :D
Sissi is Empress Elizabeth in English :)
I’m so glad to find this comment. I was going to point that out. Haha
AMHK Good comment
Also her father was not Francis II(who is in the picture you showed) but in fact Francis I(Francis II grandfather)....a naming mistake and wrong picture.
Also very happy to find this comment I was about to say the same thing
Oh man I usually love videos you're in but this was a major disappointment. I assume and hope these are written by someone else. Either way, it draws into question other videos that I'm not knowledgeable in that are probably just as poorly researched as this one. Marie Antoinette was a scapegoat and she was certainly NOT 100% responsible for her undoing. She donated often, tried to figure out the tax issue yet had to deal with having little power + her husband's indecisiveness as well as her court. Her trial too was something that should NOT have been skipped as it shows the mindset of those in the French Revolution and how hungry they were for blood. This was extremely biased and extremely sad.
Agree
There are a lot of inaccuracies and factual errors in these videos. I suggest that you take them with a grain of salt and look up info about the subjects that interests you on your own.
@@mairadelucca1118 Good idea 😊
@@roaringviking5693 I would think they would want to be profession and correct simple errors like saying Marie was alive in 1891.
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I agree. And no word about what was done to her when she was in prison: her children were abused, she could hear them cry; her son was given alcohol to testify against her; she was accused to have sex with her own children. She for sure didn't do everything the way she maybe should have, but there were lots of other members of the Royal court who have done much worse.
Marie Antoinette and Louis went from infamous to iconic throughout time.
And that’s on the French
Wow!! So much info in 17 minutes. I feel it was thrust into my brain at lightening speed. I wish my history lessons would have been like this at school, I might have remembered more.
Ironically the man who created the guillotine also met his end via his creation
We did a top 10 list about the guillotine on our sister site: ruclips.net/video/dEte_7rmPIY/видео.html
Dr. Guillotin died at home in Paris in 1814 of natural causes.
Titanic according to Wikipedia yes...I am trying to verify how he died via non web 2.0 sites.
He didn't invent it tho. He suggested a quicker way of execution, Dr. Antoine Louis designed it and lost his head to it during the reign of terror.
One can only hope...
It's strange how people only associate France's debt crisis to funding the American Revolution. France was always in substantial debt since the time of Louis XIV 130 years earlier. And the greatest contributor to that debt, by a long shot, was the seven years war. The American Revolutions was just the latest in major spending and only hastened the fall of the monarchy, it's not the direct cause.
Facts! France had bean in debt for a LONG time.
Hello everyone. We've been experimenting with a bit of a podcast (a few people were asking for audio versions so they can get Biographics while doing other things)! Fair warning: none of these are new biographies, but rather me having a bit more of a free form chat around the script. I'd love to know what you think, if these are useful, wanted etc :). Thanks, Simon.
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@Snaggle Toothed Triggered much?
Absolutely YES.
12:57 It should be in 1791
I’d watch more if you were a bit more accurate. Sisi was not an ancestor and the 1891 thing gave me pause. Good luck though!
I always felt so much sympathy for Marie Antoinette. Prior to her execution, she was kept in a cell close to a cell where they kept her son. The guards would torture and beat her son and she could hear his cries and screams. I don't think she deserved any of the treatment she received.
Well you're an exception most people hate her, and rightfully so; she was an elitist who had her head chopped off and fed to the pigs.
Neither did her people😒
But I don’t think she ordered people to be tortured and what not and hey if they wanted to kill her fine but leave her children alone no reason for them to suffer as well
Judging by the letters, it seems that she had a pretty smart mother. If she had listened to her, Marie may have at least gotten out of the revolution alive.
Her mother was an incredibly powerful and politically savvy player on the European stage (something very unusual for a woman at the time). The problem was, that knowledge wasn't what Antoinette was brought up with. Also, Antoinette was not very smart. Like a Pomeranian puppy - cute, energetic, very eager to please, but not a lot going on upstairs. I have met people like that - nice people, but not the most blessed intellectually. She was more a casualty of her time and political circumstance than anything else (not sure she could have navigated out of being executed, even if she had been clever).
I have only watched 3 minutes, but several of the portraits you show are not of the people you say they are: namely, Marie's parents and Louis XV. A documentary should be accurate.
This!
Yeah they showed portrait of princess sissi who was born a century later instead of her mother maria theresia. So bad
They also showed the portrait of Marie Antoinette's nephew Francis II instead of her father Francis I.
OMG! I was so pissed off by that! Why, oh why? There is so much portraits of those protagonists, why show portraits of Louis the XIII, Sissi and even once a gentleman obviously wearing Henri IV's style costume! What kind of research is that! And we are supposed to trust the content?
iainsan Well it's fortunate that it's not a documentary then 🤷♂️
This is fraught with errors. 1891? Inaccurate photos from different centuries? Slap-dash!
Whew! I wasn't the only one that noticed that error.
Yeah, that glaring error caught my eye, too
Right, because of the hundreds of photos taken by rabid media stalkers available to choose from, how dare they slap together pictures of her at different ages.
@@shadowmatrix0101 It's not the fact that the narrator is using different portraits of Marie Antoinette that depict her throughout life that is the problem. The portrait that they use for Louis XV (the grandfather of Louis XVI) is not even of Louis XV but that of Louis XIII. Louis XIII lived a century earlier than Louis XV and was the father of Louis XIV. That was one of the inaccuracies that I picked up. Then there was the wrong years in the wrong century, that sort of thing. Nothing to do with Marie Antoinette's portraits.
I caught that too. When he said 1891, I thought, 'Oh maybe just a slip' Then 1891 was at the bottom of the screen, lol. So much for accuracy! lol.
The picture you used in Marie Antoinette her own undoing that was supposedly a portrait of Empress Maria Teresa(Mother of Marie Antoinette )was actually Empress Elizabeth who did not live until the 19th century.
Oooops!i didn’t get further than the intro when I saw the portrait of empress “Sissy” while you talk about Marie Antoinette’s mother. There should be a portrait of: Maria Theresia ☝🏻
If marie antoinette is alive today, she would be a celebrity
This video is ridiculous! half of the images aren’t even of the right time period. I think I’ve seen pictures from the 1500s 1600s and 1800s in the past two minuets
Ashley Past two MINUETS? Quite the faux pas, wouldn't you agree?😉
Michelle Duquette or a pas de deux.
Ayooo they do that a lot
Marie did make an effort to reach out to the masses in her own way. There was this painting she had made of herself to be distributed to the masses where she looks like she's only wearing something resembling a shift but her goal was to show the masses that she too is simple, but it was taken more as scandalous since a queen shouldn't be wearing only a shift.
Yil Feliciano 😭😂, damn you can’t win. Anyone would get the guillotine back in those days. Remember the were burning women in America for dancing in the woods 😭
I’m not sure I believe that.
There’s not one reputable history book stating Marie Antoinette cared about anything but herself. It’s also worth noting that if such a painting exists SHE commissioned it. So the artist painted what he asked her to and not necessarily something based in reality.
MrMiamiswaggz305 nobody was burnt during the witch trials in America. Not one person. That’s a widely believed lie. It did happen in Europe but it was the less popular form of execution for “witches”. They were mostly hanged or drowned but some were burnt. Just not in America.
@@MrMiamiswaggz305 that was England not america
@@xoxolovechristielynn only England BURNED them
12:56 I think you meant to say "1791" and not "1891" :)
IronArmor There’s no need to be rude, idiot
Oh dear, sounds like someone had a bad day
Careful Giulia. It appears ironarmour still plays soldiers. Don't forget your toy guns
Pew-pew...pew-pew!
@IronArmor Haha. The irony...
Unfortunately, this episode is highly historically inaccurate, as are many of the photos displayed. Basic story is correct but details extremely wrong.
no
Was lucky enough to visit Versailles on our 3 day trip to Paris.. loved the palace & the gardens especially Marie Antoinette’s room
Thank you, Simon! Enjoyed the video. Anything about the royal families of Europe or its individuals is interesting to me. This channel is great!
wysiwyg43 Since you’re interested, he used the wrong portraits for Marie Antoinette’s mother and father. The picture he used for Marie Antoinette’s mother is actually Sissi of Austria, who lived a century after Marie Antoinette. The picture of her ‘father’ is also incorrect...it is, in fact, a picture of her nephew Francis II. Marie Antoinette’s mother was Maria Thérèse, and her father was Francis I. Simon also used several other paintings inaccurately. I would take this video with a grain of salt.
Um...dude, you used completely the wrong pictures for Marie Antoinette’s mother and father. The picture you used for Marie Antoinette’s mother is actually Sissi of Austria, who lived a century after Marie Antoinette! The picture of her ‘father’ is also incorrect. In fact, the picture you used of Marie Antoinette’s father is, in fact, a picture of her nephew Francis II! Marie Antoinette’s mother was Maria Thérèse, and her father was Francis I. A painting you used depicting her ‘early years’ was a painting of her at the end of her life, during the French Revolution...and I’ve stopped watching after that, but I suspect that the rest of your video includes other inaccuracies, because it seems to me that you just googled ‘Marie Antoinette’, and then used whatever picture you felt like using, with no care for what; or who, those paintings really depicted! I like your other channels, but really, you need to work on getting your facts straight. This is the first video I’ve watched on this channel, and it’s very disappointing.
He also got a year wrong, I'm pretty sure he meant to say 1791. But thanks for the comment, I thought he was accurate with the paintings he used, thats disappointing.
So glad I am not the only one who caught that.
He also referred to the previous king as Louis's father, when he was actually his grandfather.
I love her so much. I have several pictures of her hanging on the wall. I was at Versailles and saw her bedroom as it looked the day she fled for her life.
I love learning as much as I can about Marie Antoinette, idk why
You accidentally said "1891" not "1791"
Another great video, Simon! A couple of errors: That's the wrong Louis at 3:46, a different man from a different century. And at 12:56 you said 1891 instead of 1791. By the way, Marie was courteous until the very end. On the scaffold she accidentally stepped on the executioner's foot, and she apologized.
The picture you showed at first for Marie’s mother was empress Elisabeth of Austria (commonly know as sissi) who was born in 1837 about 82 years after Marie Antionette.
Wrong picture for Louis Bourbon as well.
+Emma Hollen Yep that was Louis XVIII
Also, picture shown as her father was another Holy Roman Emperor, Francis II, grandson of Maria Theresa.
He also said that in 1891 Antoinette made plans to escape France. She would have been 136 years old in 1891. 🤔
The amount of inaccuracies is astonishing, who's putting these together?
...and repeatedly showing portraits of people who are NOT the person being spoken of, nor even contemporary to the time. Just insulting.
The NUMBER of inaccuracies. ;)
You have photos of the wrong Bourbons in parts of this video. First one was when it was referenced that Marie Antoinette ran up to the King upon arriving in France for her wedding, the video shows the painting of Louis XIII, who died over a century before.
During The American War a distraught English mother crossed the channel and sought and gained audience with Marie Antoinette and begged her to intervene to prevent her son, a British soldier's hanging. The Queen was so moved by this mother's plea for her son that she took action and, unlike so many others right down to today, she did not just express words but did something about it and intervened diplomatically and saved his life. She was Queen when her husband, moved by Benjamin Franklin, agreed to help the Americans. To those who are cynical, his act is perceived as revenge against England, but this observation is after the event - winning - and convenient to deny that Louis XV1th and Marie Antoinette supported the American revolutionaries in their ideals. To think that she was just some empty-headed piece of fluff, extravagant, after being on the throne as a teenage young woman and had her youthful years behind her by the time France declared war is blind to the maturing process in any human being of normal sensibilities - of any young woman of feeling on the scene. Just self-serving and designed to keep her perceived as a silly young woman forever, a brain not in her head. The King tried for many years to solve the economic crises and did indeed balance the books twice with his treasurers one of whom was Necker, the best economist specialist in Europe whom The King employed twice to endeavour to find a solution to break the crises. The King and Queen had intervened on behalf of the Americans and Thomas Paine who knew the true reasons, voted against the guillotine for the King in the context of knowing and not having forgotten Louis and Antoinette's ( her friends called her Antoinette ) commitment to the American cause earlier. She never said, " let them eat cake. " It was said by the mistress of the King of the previous reign and possibly as a positive suggestion. "Cake " was the name for sweetbread and was cheaper and cheaper to supply. The bankruptcy caused to France by its involvement in the war, Napoleon said, was one of the two reasons for The French Revolution. The other was The Diamond Necklace Case in which Cardinal Rohen and the Countess de la Motte framed the Queen. Enquiry records are available. The Queen was frivolous when she was young but made a conscious decision to change her ways. She had refused the necklace on the grounds it was extravagant and this reason was ignored and still is. She was defamed, called a lesbian not that there is anything wrong with that ordinarily, but she was not, and smeared as a slut and accused of sexual perversions with the Countess de la Motte, Madame de Polinac and The Princesse de Lamballe who was stabbed in the stomach, her breasts cut off, her vulva cut out in the street and then her head on a pike waved at Marie Antoinette's window of her prison cell for her to see her best friend while The Princesse's body was dragged through the streets. Her trial was conducted well by her and she took control and argued constitutional issues proving she had matured and made the decision years earlier to change her whimsical nature and apply herself seriously to events, and she did not betray France as France had an illegal government obtained by a coup d'etat, The Revolution - certainly by the Jacobins, Robespierre, architect of The Reign of Terror, a serial murderer of monumental proportions and Marat, " executed " summarily by Charlotte Corday, who was a true liberal, the real representative of liberty, equality fraternity, as was Marie Antoinette, who, as wife of Louis XV1th jointly enabled the ushering in of the start of liberty, equality and fraternity embodied in Thomas Paine's The Declaration of The Rights Of Man, by enabling its inception by declaring war in the first place, thus finally enabling General Rochambeaud and Admiral la Grasse the opportunity finally to design the pincer movement that won victory at Yorktown and won the war - it was not impostors like Marat, Robespierre and Fournier who represented liberty, equality and fraternity, words for them, the pretense behind which they operated - their vile actions prove the opposite - they were psychotic dictators and Marie Antoinette and Louis XV1th were not accused of that - that is one thing - about the only thing they were not accused of. Louis XV1th was /is recognized as a decent man, acknowledged - Marie Antoinette was an Absolute Monarchist but this form of government at the time was the system that got results in winning The American War and this is the real history that should be written. The worst weather for years wiped the crops out and caused the bread crisis in 1787. Her utmost bravery at the guillotine, scaffold, was acknowledged by most of her arch-enemies except most notably the odious Fournier, her prosecutor, disliked even by his allies, and the painter David, who couldn't find it in himself to have a nice word to say about her even then. What she did for them is why the Americans accepted The Statue of Liberty.
"I love my little queen" what a mother
Wrong heading ..>Marie Antoinette was not responsible for her own undoing...
i have done my research, she was denounced and executed for her moral character which included incest, adultery and child abuse which we of course now know to be all fabricated then treason. Louis proved an incompetent king and so his wife also shared the blame, the fact is that none of them were monsters. The revolutionary tribunal was more interested in collecting royal heads then doing real justice to France or even a little good to that country. There were severe shortages of bread which they too failed to fix. In the end they too got what they deserved an untimely end at the guillotine.
And what exactly, was her treason that you say she committed?
When the king and queen who are supposed to rule their country are completely incompetent and citizens suffer because of it, then they deserve whatever is going their way
Tic Tac she was a queen consort. Her only job was to produce an heir to the throne. She wasn’t supposed to rule or involve herself in politics. She was very much a victim of the times.
I Absoulty love these biographies! I hated history when I was in school and now that Im older it amazes me how we use to live.
Why do they keep showing Louis XIV every time they mention Louis XV or XVI? Did I also see Louis XIV's father when they mentioned Louis XV?
Inaccurate.
Its amazing how you can tell the whole history in a matter of minutes ....thank you so much for this video
Wow, what a slanted and biased bio. I love watching you Simon but to remove all context of Antoinette's life and misquote her left and right is extremely unfair. Her last words were actually "Forgive me, sir - I did not do it on purpose" after she stepped on the foot of the executioner.
She has been slagged off for centuries and this video just continues in that same tradition.
Wow, so you mean you were alive to hear what her last word actually were? Perhaps you should write a book about what actually happened since you were there and knew exactly what was said and happened.
I know that people in History like to keep it word perfect , nothing wrong with that, Mari Antoinette did not have much sway in her time as queen , she was kept away from things elating to life outside of the palace , however the heinous way she was treated during the revolution , she must have seen her execution as a blessing , it's the little Dauphines that suffered the most he must have thought he had entered into a nightmare ,I can Imagen him during the quite nights thinking and wanting his mother, the mob knew this and enjoyed telling him dreadful things about his mother , ha was molested , physically, and mentally it would be enough to drive any well balanced person. Insane. It is what happened in any war, soldiers seemed to lose their sense of reason,
And it brings out an animal creature from men and women , they act like animals, and do things forgetting there would be consequences. It's a sad world we live in, our world is beautifully made, beautiful scenery, breath taking beauty , it's mankind who have ruined it, with bombs , atom bombs, guns, drugs. Cruelty to animals and vulnerable people. I think it was that great writer Hemingway that said he could never understand man's inhumanity to man, we all must have had that thaught at sometime in our lives.
ohhhh shut up you frag
Do you need to be excused so you can change your tampon?
I agree....studying her and the time period, she was screwed over the min she landed in France. Louis father already had the country in ruin financially and they inherited his problems with the country. Very sad actually. She did try to understand the french people, but they disliked her from the getgo. Her children were also executed sadly. What hurt the country even more, was they financed the American revolution, which didn't sit well with the French people. Yes she spent money, but all the rich in court did. Again, the French didn't like her from the beginning. That and not being taught things was her undoing.
Wrong again. 6:20. Louis the XVI's father was Louis, Dauphin of France (1729-1765). Marie and Louis (the future king) were married in 1770. Louis XV (1710-1774) was Louis XVI's grandfather! The marriage was consummated seven years after their nuptials in 1777.
I would love to see a biography dedicated to Julies Ceaser.
Thanks! I didn't know there was a way to vote.
All Hail Caesar!
Julius Caesar
Fact: The man who invented the guillotine described it as "a cool breeze on the back of the neck." His name was Guillotine. 😓😮☠
He was also executed by it.
@@ashleightompkins3200 how ironic, it's same with the screaming bull torture
Reye 2020 The Brazen Bull
@@ashleightompkins3200 This is a classic rumor btw. Doctor Guillotin died of a wound carbuncle rather than the guillotine itself.
thank you so much for putting the subtitle on the video! as a non-english speaker it helps me understand more about your video, i really appreciate it :)
"Oh, no, no, no...I am not going on a long trip without my wine chest."
Me.
I Enjoy your programs very much but, it would be much better if you showed accurate photos of the people you are talking about. The photos you showed when talking about her husband (who was the GRANDson of Louis XV, not son!). The photos you showed was not of Louis XVI!!!
One of the portraits that was shown of Louis XV was in fact Louis XIII. I mean, how can you mix those two up?
I didnt know they had photos in 1700s
Loving these biographies😍
Unfortunately, much of the information in them are fictional rather than biographical.
Fun fact: Did you know that Antoinette's hair was once a BOAT?
It also was a home for small creatures
"Hey, my hair is a boat."
Oversimlified right?
Theres a tax for that
Oversimplified😁👍😊😊😊😊
0:40 - Chapter 1 - Early life
2:15 - Chapter 2 - Early years in france
6:45 - Chapter 3 - Years as queen
11:00 - Chapter 4 - French revolution
Biographics (Simon) this was my 1st video of your new channel. Having had studied M.A. and these very things I must say you did brilliant work! I subscribed and turned on the notifications. I even learned a thing or two. I'll be watching the rest.
I love royal history! Could you do more?
agreed, the royals were a fascinating bunch
Would a foreign princess be indulged and given free reign of France's coffers at that time period? no way.
Historical hit piece, scapegoating and or an angry mob organizer "looking for a reason."
That's just my opinion.
Another one knocked out of the park. Keep up the great work, Simon!
13:03 *the year was 1791, not 1891
You say "jury of all males," as if it would've made a difference. Actually the women of France hated her the most. They'd have called for her execution in an instant.
Also, her final words were dope. Well done Marie.
Jason Possibly. But possibly not. If you know anything about the trial you'll know that they, the tribunal, tried to accuse her of having an incestuous relation with her son. When she called them out on it and turned to all the mothers in the room the women started shouting in her support; at which point the false charge of incest was recanted. If those women at the trial hated Marie Antoinette, they certainly didn't hate her in those moments.
@@bananaborz1 revolutions are done by a well organized few and have nothing to do with supposedly unhappy 'masses'. Nobody asks them anything. Then in retrospect all sorts of lies are spread about the victims to justify the act. Oh how important it is to think for yourself and see right through these empty conventionalities.
Loved her final words. That is very dope
@Jake from state farm lol no, women were not just baby making machines
that painting of her mother in the beginning was not Maria Theresa it was The Empress Elisabeth of Austria, a Wittelsbach.
Love this! However, I would just like to point out that 1) some of the portraits seem to be of the wrong people. At 0:55, the portrait is of Francis II, Marie Antoinette's nephew, and not her father Francis I; 2) At 2:56, the portrait is of Louis XIII, not Louis XV (her grandfather-in-law) whom she hugged; and at 3) even at their marriage, Louis' father had already passed away, along with his mother. His grandfather passed the throne to him upon his death.
Her life was a constant (get ready with me)
She was so far removed from the everyday lives of the French commoners. I don't think she understood famine and what they went through, she was pampered and waited on hand and foot her whole life. That being said she should have listened to her mother more. She also should have left when her husband didn't want to flee.
You make this video worth watching, Simon. Good writing and good presentation. I wouldn't be surprised to one day see you on a larger media platform.
Love these videos Simon, always an instant click!
The pictures at 0:53 are NOT Marie Antoinettes parents! The woman in the image is Empress Elisabeth ( aka Sisi, born 1837 died 1898 )of Austria and the man is Francis II, Holy Roman Emperor (born 1768, died 1835 ) Many other images are wrong as well, they don´t show the person you are talking about. Bad checking of the resources.
00SynchronFan00 i know.
@@pandamaliaj9549 good none cares though
I care. That's why I'm here.
Omg Thank you finally
“ Oh great he’s a friken weirdo”
- Marie Antoinette
Omg lol😅😅
oversimplified french-revoloution love the reference
Thank you for sharing this. Marie Antoinette has always been a historical creature that peeks my interests. As I remember, she was not exactly happy about the arranged marriage to Louie IV. I would like to think that she like any other woman in her position, would find ways to compensate for the lackluster. Let's face it, Louie was not exactly the catch of the decade. So why not? She found ways to amuse herself in grandiose & luxurious ways.
I had to stop before 1 minute because the image you've show of Marie Antoinette's "mother" is the Empress Elisabeth, who was born more than 200 years later that Marie Antoinette's death! Sorry, but how can you make a hitorical video without checking your facts?
In actuality, Princess Elisabeth aka Empress Sisi was only about 80 years younger than Queen Marie Antionette. I believe the host used Elisabeths photo only to represent the Austrian Habsburg family that Marie Antionette was born into.
I learned a lot today. Thanks
Love the new channel! So well-researched and presented, as always!
You are helping me survive the Quarantine! Thank you!
Will you ever re-make this video with actually accurate information?
This is accurate. All modern stories about her are revisionist and people are creating false stories just to make her seem like a better person.
@@cognitivedissident2881 finally someone that agree with me
I love Marie Antoinette, she’s so glamorous.
Oh man, you really showed Empress Elisabeth (aka "Sisi") as her mother. SO WRONG! Marie Antoinette was the daughter of Arch Duchess (NOT Empress) Maria Theresia. Also, she was born in Vienna, not in Hallstadt, which is depictured in this video.
Lukas Drechsel-Burkhard the mother of Marie Antoinette was Maria Teresa who WAS an Empress.Marie Antoinette was the arch dutchess as were all female offspring of the Empress Maria Teresa.
+Virgina Gobetz NO she was Heir Apparent.
the woman they have pictured is not Marie Antoinette's mother
Neither is the fiancee,the name is right but the visible painting is in fact of Louis Auguste, Duke of Maine(legitimised son of Louis XIV and Madame of Montespan)
No.... Now.... YOU are wrong... Maria Theresa (not Theresia either) was the EMPRESS of Austria her daughters were ARCH DUCHESSES. Don't be ridiculous. Everyone who knows anything about French history (and I'm beginning to wonder on youtube people spew some real incorrect crap) knows the great EMPRESS Maria Theresa. As a voracious reader of history especially French history and archaeology it really pisses me off how incorrect people are. This moron should NOT be making videos on historical subjects if he can't even research his subject., BUT YOU are worse you get all huffy and correct him and then make a mistake that a 5th grader would know. Maria Theresa an ARCHDUCHESS???????? And who was her husband FRANK??? LOLOLOL Come on now you know it....Francis. yeah that's right. What an idiot you are.
Thank you I loved this so much. Marie is my favourite monarch of all time. And I still love her story. She certainly did live a life on the world stage.
Dang! You immediately lost me when when you showed Empress Elizabeth as Empress Maria Theresa!
They're a whole century apart from each other.
It's like referring to Queen Victoria and simultaneously showing a picture of Queen Elizabeth II.
Bruno Ferreira da Silva ikr
Not to mention that Louis XIII is shown as Louis XIV
Francis i is shown as Francis ii, who was Marie Antoinette's nephew
Wow! Horrible tragic for herself and her family! Thanks again for your time and work on this Bio & other's.
Thelma Knowler She deserved to die.
Tragic ? Cause the 50,000 peasants that died of starvation is just life, let them eat cake eh ?
Her frivolities and desire for constant luxury caused the death of everything around her. She prized her opulence over everything else and deserved the punishment she got.
Give it up for America's favorite fighting Frenchman! LAFAYETTE!
Johanna Aminoff IM TAKING THIS HORSE BY THE REINS MAKING RED COATS REDDER WITH BLOOD STAINS
Olivia !! LAFAYETTE AND IM NEVER GONNA STOP TILL I MAKE EM DROP AND BURN EM UP AND SCATTER THE REMAINS IM-
@@imacrackhead1397 LAFAYETTE
WATCH ME ESCAPING THEM ENGAGING THEM ENRAGING THEM I'M-
Immigrants, we get the job done!
labaguette*
I've always said that she was given an unfair reputation; she really wasn't any worse than any other royalty during that time. Also, her husband was a damn weakling - at least she planned their escape. Neither of them truly deserved their fate, but I understand why some people felt they had do execute them.
You really should be more careful when making these videos, with some of the years being wrong and wrong pictures being used for people. That sadly doesn't give the best impression.
I'm a historian and my specialization is in women in the French Revolution, I study a lot about Marie Antoinette too, and the amount of misinformation in this video is absurd :c what are your sources?
Another excellent video, I learned something new today! I will never see Marie Antoinette in the same way ever again! What an eye opener!
This video is full of historical errors
I'd rather say it was full of historical omissions.
get lost moron
"1891" had me laughing so hard
The specifics don't matter in a channel such as this, it's entertainment. Anyone using this for a paper deserves to fail, there will be a few.
I once had a history class where Marie Antoinette and Louis the 16th were painted in a more positive light. I've heard alternate sides of this story.
I think King Louis' problem was that he was too slow to act during a time of crisis. Plus, he and Marie Antoinette were young and not yet mature when they inherited France.
This video is so inaccurate that I feel sorry for those learning about the historical facts for the first time
That is why people should be reading history books and not just watching RUclips videos!
Finns Mom I do so agree with you. I worry that something seen on the Internet will be taken to be the truth and history will be changed. Two films on release, about Mary, Queen of Scots and Queen Anne are going to do the same.
Such as?
@@hadar675 well, make sure not to read American Made history books, I was reading through one of mine, and ig said that in the 1600's Portugal owned all of India, Oman, and west Africa
When have his-tory ever been real. It's all written by those who wants you to buy their made up bs.
Do a video of Mary Queen of Scots!!!
Such a great content, it is a pitty that it is delivered in rush.
It’s kind of weird that she looks extremely old in all her paintings, yet Empress Sisi looked so young