Markov Chains: Recurrence, Irreducibility, Classes | Part - 2

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • Let's understand Markov chains and its properties. In this video, I've discussed recurrent states, reducibility, and communicative classes.
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Комментарии • 108

  • @Arjunsiva
    @Arjunsiva 3 года назад +123

    Great to see high-quality educational channels like 3Blue1Brown coming from India. Btw, what software do you use to create the animations?

    • @NormalizedNerd
      @NormalizedNerd  3 года назад +103

      It's a python library named manim, created by Grant Sanderson!

    • @abhirajarora7631
      @abhirajarora7631 Месяц назад

      Are you sure about that comparison?

  • @yiyiyan7273
    @yiyiyan7273 2 года назад +23

    This is really nice for the beginners to understand the basic properties of markov chain. It would be great if your video could go further to the hidden markov chain and factorial markov chain:)

  • @ianbowen6344
    @ianbowen6344 3 года назад +11

    5:46 - "Between any of these classes, we can always go from one state to the other." But how can we do that if two of the classes are self-contained? Do you mean that we can always move between states within each class?

    • @NormalizedNerd
      @NormalizedNerd  3 года назад +11

      "we can always move between states within each class" This is what I meant.

    • @zenchiassassin283
      @zenchiassassin283 3 года назад +2

      @@NormalizedNerd thanks

  • @jingyingsophie8822
    @jingyingsophie8822 Год назад +3

    I don't quite understand the part where 2 is also a recurrent state in the first example. If the definition of the recurrent state is where the probability of returning back to that state is =1 (i.e. guaranteed), wouldn't 2 be a transient state since there is the possible case where 1 goes back to itself only ad infinitum?

    • @dariovaccaro9401
      @dariovaccaro9401 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes that s true, I think he doesn't define well enough the two different cases

  • @nid8490
    @nid8490 2 года назад +2

    At @2:36 : I beg to differ. There is a non-zero probability that once I go from State 2 to State 1; I would continue to be in State 1 forever. In this case, we are not *bound * to come back to State 2 ever again. So I wouldn't say the probability of ever coming back to State 2 from State 2 is *1*.
    (Or am I missing something here?)

    • @mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417
      @mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417 4 месяца назад

      There isn’t a probability we’ll stay at state 1 forever. We can go from state 1 to state 1 again once twice or a billion times but we will come back to state 2 eventually.

  • @laodrofotic7713
    @laodrofotic7713 2 года назад

    I paused the video @1:00 minute mark to tell you it is NOT DUCKING GOOD TO REFER TO STATE A B AND C WHILE THE F-ING PICTURE SAYS STATE 1 2 and 3. FFS, ok now I will watch the rest of it but I think this will be a waste of time just from this start, I can tell you cant explain crap.

  • @Garrick645
    @Garrick645 Месяц назад +1

    Bro we need more videos. Don't wait for comments just do it 🙏🙏❤❤

  • @hansheytens6640
    @hansheytens6640 Год назад +1

    Hello, dumb question. Shouldn't state 2be transient also. I mean, there is a extremely small chance (but not zero), that in a random walk we go from state 2 to state 1 and then we keep looping through state 1 forever, hence not coming back to state 2? No? Thanks love your vids.

  • @abhishekarora4007
    @abhishekarora4007 3 года назад +17

    why this video has views only on thousands? it needs to be in millions!

  • @AnonymousAnonymous-ug8tp
    @AnonymousAnonymous-ug8tp Год назад +2

    2:48 Sir, how come state 2 is recurrent state? It is possible that after reaching state 1, it keeps on looping back to state 1 forever, it is not "bound" to come back to state 2 from 1.

    • @alewis7041
      @alewis7041 Год назад

      Recurrent state just means that after going from state to state infinitely, you will reach a giving state also infinitely. Generally, for very large numbers, 2 will be reached. 0, if we ran the transitions infinitely, would have a finite occurrence, a specific amount before it left state 0 and unable to return

    • @davethesid8960
      @davethesid8960 10 месяцев назад

      No, because recurrence at 1 isn't with probability 1. So, provided you wait long enough, you will eventually leave state 1.

  • @iglesiaszorro297
    @iglesiaszorro297 3 года назад +7

    Very catchy! I request you to make more such videos on markov chains with these kinds of awesome representations!! Markov chains were a dread to me previously.. your videos are too cool!

  • @melissachen1581
    @melissachen1581 2 года назад +1

    I think there is a mistake at 2:56? 2 is not a recurrent state because after we leave 2, the chance of going back to 2 is less than 1 when 1 recurse itself. Only 1 is a recurrent state because after we leave 1, it's 100% that we will come back to 1. Can someone confirm that?

    • @Mosil0
      @Mosil0 2 года назад

      I was thinking the same thing, but I suppose if you consider an infinite number of steps, eventually the probability of going back to 2 approaches 100%

  • @nicolasrodrigo9
    @nicolasrodrigo9 2 года назад +8

    You are a very good math professor, thanks a lot!

  • @Mithu14062
    @Mithu14062 3 года назад +4

    Very good precised explanation with nice animation. Thank you for your video. Please make more for solving numericals and implementation of practical scenario.

  • @preritgoyal9293
    @preritgoyal9293 6 месяцев назад

    Great brother 👌👌
    So, if the stationary distribution has all non zero values, the chain will be irreducible ?
    (Since all states can communicate with each other)
    And Reducible if any of the states has 0 value in stationary distribution ?

  • @georgemavran9701
    @georgemavran9701 Год назад +4

    Amazing explanation! Can you also please explain the periodicity of a state in a Markov chain?

  • @DejiAdegbite
    @DejiAdegbite 2 месяца назад

    No wonder it's called the Gambler's Ruin. 🤣

  • @migratingperson1165
    @migratingperson1165 Год назад

    Found this math concept from Numb3rs and got curious

  • @flyguggenheim
    @flyguggenheim 2 месяца назад

    i think it's heal my light depression, thank you

  • @jayeshpatil5112
    @jayeshpatil5112 7 месяцев назад +1

    Can't believe that Indian is at it's prime. Ek number explanation 🔥🔥🔥

  • @arvinpradhan
    @arvinpradhan 3 года назад +1

    discrete time markov chains and continuous time markov chains please

  • @amarparajuli692
    @amarparajuli692 3 года назад +2

    Amazing content for ML and Data Science people. Keep up Bro. Will share it with my ML comrades.

  • @SARKARSAIMAISLAM
    @SARKARSAIMAISLAM 10 месяцев назад

    gr8 vdo...
    class 1(state 0 ) and class 3 (state 3)...cant communicate with others, how are they communicative classes???

  • @karannchew2534
    @karannchew2534 2 года назад

    Notes for my future revision.
    *New Terminologies*
    Transient states.
    Recurrence state.
    Reducible Markov chain.
    Irreducible Markov chain.
    Communicating Classes.

  • @daniekpo
    @daniekpo Год назад

    Great video. Just one observation; state 1 is NOT recurrent. A state cannot be recurrent and transient at the same time. The probability of never visiting state 0 again is greater than 0 so by definition it can't be recurrent. To be recurrent all paths leading out of the state has to eventually lead back to that state but that's no the case for state 0. I'm I missing something?

  • @amritayushman3443
    @amritayushman3443 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the videos. Helped me a lot. Would appreciate if you upload a video for complete in depth mathematical analysis of the Marco chain and its stationary probability.

  • @geethanarvadi
    @geethanarvadi 11 месяцев назад

    If we have state space {0,1,2,3}
    And given Matrix then how to find the pij(n)? Please explain this 😢

  • @harishsuthar4604
    @harishsuthar4604 3 года назад +1

    Looks like Stat Quest Channel BAM!!!
    Clearly Explained!!!

  • @yijingwang7308
    @yijingwang7308 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you for your video. But I am confused, you said Sum of Outgoing Probabilities Equals 1, but in the first example, the sum of outgoing probabilities of state 0 is less than 1?

  • @real.biswajit
    @real.biswajit Год назад +1

    Your videos are really helpful dada❤

  • @OmerMan992
    @OmerMan992 2 года назад +1

    Great videos!
    Would you consider making video/s on Queueing theory for stochastic models please?

  • @MrFelco
    @MrFelco 7 месяцев назад

    Hang on, if you define transient state as 'the probably of a state returning to itself is less than 1', then in the first example, would state 2 not also be a transient state? Reason being, there could be a random walk, in which you go from state 2 to state 1, and then state 1 keeps looping back on itself infinitely, never going back to state 2. Then the probability of state 2 returning to itself is less than 1, given there is a random walk in which it does not return to itself.

    • @mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417
      @mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417 4 месяца назад

      The probability of state 1 returning to itself infinitely is 0. It is bound to return to 2 at some point.

    • @mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417
      @mohamedaminekhadhraoui6417 4 месяца назад

      In all random walks that go on forever, we will go back to 2 if we start there.

  • @SuiLamSin
    @SuiLamSin 5 месяцев назад

    very good video

  • @olesiaaltynbaeva4132
    @olesiaaltynbaeva4132 3 года назад +2

    Your channel is a great resource! Thanks!

  • @tristanlouthrobins
    @tristanlouthrobins 3 месяца назад

    Absolutely brilliant, clear explanation!

  • @arounderror3747
    @arounderror3747 Год назад

    osu?

  • @kirananumalla
    @kirananumalla 3 года назад +1

    Very clearly explained! Yes would be useful if there are more videos..

  • @zahraheydari172
    @zahraheydari172 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for your channel and all your videos. I had a question watching this video: How does this relate to the definition of Markov chain which you provided in part one which said the probability of the future state only depends on the current state?

  • @ayushshekhar1901
    @ayushshekhar1901 Год назад

    Good presentation but I have a doubt in the end. How can we go from any state to any other state after transformation to similar states?

  • @kindykomal
    @kindykomal 2 года назад

    Why don't our teachers teach like this , was hating maths few mins ago, till I turned this video ,Thank you so for this much-needed video 🥺, Now I kinda want to do PhD instead in this 😂🙏🏻

  • @736939
    @736939 3 года назад +1

    Basically these are the strongest connected components.

    • @NormalizedNerd
      @NormalizedNerd  3 года назад

      Right you are...strongly connected components

  • @asthaagha9505
    @asthaagha9505 Год назад

    🥺🥺🥺thanq

  • @llss79
    @llss79 2 года назад

    You could have explained why what is the utility of simplifying markov chains into irreducible and what is the math difference when considering them separated.

  • @sushmitagoswami2033
    @sushmitagoswami2033 6 месяцев назад

    Love the explaination!

  • @c0d23
    @c0d23 2 года назад

    ¿What books to learn statistics, prob and markov chain?

    • @NormalizedNerd
      @NormalizedNerd  2 года назад

      Element of Statistical Learning (Springer)
      Markov Chains by J.R. Norris

  • @stivenap156
    @stivenap156 2 года назад

    I am now a fan! New subscriber !

  • @niccolosimonato1478
    @niccolosimonato1478 3 года назад +1

    Damn that's a smooth explaination

  • @wonseoklee80
    @wonseoklee80 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video. Now I can understand whenever I hear Markov chain!

  • @مصطفىعبدالجبارجداح

    Thanks

  • @arafathossain1803
    @arafathossain1803 2 года назад

    Great one

  • @ahlemchouial4621
    @ahlemchouial4621 3 года назад

    thank yo u so much, amazing videos!!!

  • @willbutplural
    @willbutplural 2 года назад

    Amazing video again 👍

  • @mohammedbelgoumri
    @mohammedbelgoumri 2 года назад

    Great video, is the source code available somewhere?

  • @webdeveloper-vy7hb
    @webdeveloper-vy7hb 3 года назад

    How did you use Manim to represent the random walk by blinking effect? Could you share the portion of that code? I started learning manim recently but couldn't manage to do that.

    • @NormalizedNerd
      @NormalizedNerd  3 года назад

      I created a custom manim object to create the graphs (markov chains). Then I'm just walking through the vertices and edges. The blinking effect is just creating a circle and fading it immediately.

    • @webdeveloper-vy7hb
      @webdeveloper-vy7hb 3 года назад

      @@NormalizedNerd I see. It will be great if you could share the custom object codes.

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    @johnmandrake8829 3 года назад

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    @anushaganesanpmp7602 3 года назад

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    @丁珊珊-t4o 3 года назад

    wow this kind of random walk demo is very helpful

  • @williammoody1911
    @williammoody1911 3 года назад

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  • @cassidygonzalez374
    @cassidygonzalez374 3 года назад

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    @kaushalgagan6723 3 года назад

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  • @lebzgold7475
    @lebzgold7475 3 года назад

    Amazing animation! Thank you.

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    @sumitlahiri209 3 года назад

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    @SJ23982398 3 года назад

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