I feel like Logic wins the battle here. Most of the others have more leakage and spectral errors. To have it built in without additional cost makes it a slam dunk. Great honest review.
Great job once again! To echo one of the previous comments, I truly appreciate the time and detail you took in making these comparisons. It's really the only way one can get a clear and objective picture of what's out there. Thank you!
Excellent comparison, I was hoping someone would do this. I've always thought Spectralayers did the best job at stems, but I think Stem Splitter is giving it a run for its money (free with Logic vs $300 for Spectralayers Pro!). I was surprised at how well lala did vocals! In general, the mix of the original song input has a huge impact on how well these splitters perform (especially EQ masking, stereo imaging, and reverb); all of the splitters will struggle on some songs. Interestingly, "analog" songs mixed many years ago before all of the recent mixing technology and digital plug-in mishmash can be split with great success. Bravo on this video!!!
Super great comparison video - thanks a lot for making this, James ;) I did a live recording recently where I (due to limited separation options) was forced to record vibes, upright bass and nylon string guitar in the same room. I just started experimenting with the Logic Pro Stem Splitter hoping to be able to get rid of some of the bleed between the instrument mikes. It works some of the way but what I'm really lacking now is a way to separate the "Other" melange into definable instruments - vibes and nylon string guitar in this case. Is there any product in the market that can do this? It must be coming anytime soon. Thanks again, Best Vibes, Mo'. ❤🐫🤠🇩🇰
Thank you! This video came at the perfect time! I downloaded Moises a couple weeks ago and no joke within a week Logic 11 came out with the Stem Splitter. I’m currently in the process of upgrading to Logic 11 and want to do some comparisons of my own. You earned a subscriber 🤘
I took my boy song from years ago and tried the stem splitter for fun. It was cool but it kinda felt like some artifacts were there. His vocal part had some bleeding in it here and there so the stem splitter caught some of it. This just the beginning of it let's see how it works out with Logic.
iPad cheapest can do the splitter with a Logic iOS subscription. Mac Mini m4 upgrade = 2.5 years of Moises subscription, Newer Apple silicon devices run Logic 11 with free splitter, mastering, mucho many many many mid tier plugins- use Mini like a powerful outboard processing box; if you already have Logic add a base Native Instruments suite- more software than you need; it’s Talent time then…
Imagine having access to Peter Jackson’s MAL software! If it was good enough for demixing/remixing The Beatles Revolver album it must be pretty good…..I guess all these programmes will improve over time.
thanks for the comparison! been using RipX for my drum covers since it came out, i notice that with Logic Stem Splitter drums tend to bleed more into 'other' and 'vocal' tracks but sounds clearer and retains more of the transients, whereas overall tone of RipX sounds muddier and some transients are lost. I think im gonna switch to logic for all my future projects, thanks again!
I just dream of a day when RUclipsrs stop making cheesy, chin-holding thumbnail poses, white outlining their photos, setting up a few lights in the background...all because THIS is what they're told to do. BE ORIGINAL!
@@HollywoodRecordingStudio Tons of people (including myself) are starting to not even bother watching videos with these kinds of thumbnails bcoz it’s an endlessly regurgitated methodology. And if people aren’t creative enough to come up with some originality, I don’t even bother watching/subscribing. 🙄
No you do not have stem splitter in logic pro 11 if your mac has intel chips!!!!!!!!!! Stem splitter is greyed out and disabled so you will need another option than Logic Pro 11 or include buying a new Mac with apple chips then you will have Stem Splitter for the additional $200 far from free. I am here for the options because I cannot buy a new Mac just to use stem splitter (Yes I do have logic pro 11 and Intel chips on my iMac, stem splitter is disabled)
@@sonidojamon Not at all. That's how it started, hence the name... But it evolved to a point that became the best one. It can do: Vocals/istrumental, Drums/No-Drums, Bass/No-Bass, 4 Stem Ensemble, Multi Stem Ensemble. And you can download many different algorithms. It is not the easiest, but it is the better sounding one and more complete. Maybe try it and then let me know.
@@JuanJacinto I checked their website before replying, and looks like tthey haven't updated the app's UI capture images for some time. They are showing an early version. I went back and downloaded it and... You're damn right!! It's got plenty of options, it's open source, and has lots of tweakable stuff. It might be a little "geeky" for the average user, but it's an amazing and very powerful tool!! Thank you!!
I feel like Logic wins the battle here. Most of the others have more leakage and spectral errors. To have it built in without additional cost makes it a slam dunk. Great honest review.
MPC stems sound the best for right now out of all of the AI and software i heard so far is my honest opinion
Need that standalone stem.... They need to slam some Sakai and do it already.
Awesome comparison video!
I really appreciate the work you put into making this video 🙏🏼
Great job once again! To echo one of the previous comments, I truly appreciate the time and detail you took in making these comparisons. It's really the only way one can get a clear and objective picture of what's out there. Thank you!
Great comparison, love the time you took for this. Thank you
Very good comparison. None of them are perfect but I think Logic is doing a good job overall.
Excellent comparison, I was hoping someone would do this. I've always thought Spectralayers did the best job at stems, but I think Stem Splitter is giving it a run for its money (free with Logic vs $300 for Spectralayers Pro!). I was surprised at how well lala did vocals! In general, the mix of the original song input has a huge impact on how well these splitters perform (especially EQ masking, stereo imaging, and reverb); all of the splitters will struggle on some songs. Interestingly, "analog" songs mixed many years ago before all of the recent mixing technology and digital plug-in mishmash can be split with great success. Bravo on this video!!!
Super great comparison video - thanks a lot for making this, James ;) I did a live recording recently where I (due to limited separation options) was forced to record vibes, upright bass and nylon string guitar in the same room. I just started experimenting with the Logic Pro Stem Splitter hoping to be able to get rid of some of the bleed between the instrument mikes. It works some of the way but what I'm really lacking now is a way to separate the "Other" melange into definable instruments - vibes and nylon string guitar in this case. Is there any product in the market that can do this? It must be coming anytime soon.
Thanks again,
Best Vibes, Mo'. ❤🐫🤠🇩🇰
Thank you! This video came at the perfect time! I downloaded Moises a couple weeks ago and no joke within a week Logic 11 came out with the Stem Splitter. I’m currently in the process of upgrading to Logic 11 and want to do some comparisons of my own. You earned a subscriber 🤘
Enjoyed the video, first time watching 👍
Very good job. Thank you very much!!!
I took my boy song from years ago and tried the stem splitter for fun. It was cool but it kinda felt like some artifacts were there. His vocal part had some bleeding in it here and there so the stem splitter caught some of it. This just the beginning of it let's see how it works out with Logic.
great work
This looks awesome.
iPad cheapest can do the splitter with a Logic iOS subscription. Mac Mini m4 upgrade = 2.5 years of Moises subscription, Newer Apple silicon devices run Logic 11 with free splitter, mastering, mucho many many many mid tier plugins- use Mini like a powerful outboard processing box; if you already have Logic add a base Native Instruments suite- more software than you need; it’s Talent time then…
This week I remade a song extracting the original vocals from a cassette I made with my best friend 33 years ago.
Imagine having access to Peter Jackson’s MAL software! If it was good enough for demixing/remixing The Beatles Revolver album it must be pretty good…..I guess all these programmes will improve over time.
Logic 11 the best stems : more transients and vocal incredible with original reverb and ambiance. Logic 11 more musical and natural stems
Hi, I have a MacBook Pro 2017 i7 and the stem splitter is grayed out. only available on Macs with Apple silicon.
Me too, just ordered a new Mac Pro M3. About time to upgrade, given performance with current apps.
thanks for the comparison! been using RipX for my drum covers since it came out, i notice that with Logic Stem Splitter drums tend to bleed more into 'other' and 'vocal' tracks but sounds clearer and retains more of the transients, whereas overall tone of RipX sounds muddier and some transients are lost. I think im gonna switch to logic for all my future projects, thanks again!
try mvsep "ensemble"
Really useful and interesting. Nice one.
The stem splitting is available from Mac computers with Apple chips. I have an Intel Mac 2019
So buy a new computer
@@MusikalHuman No, I won't do that because I have 64 GB of RAM and the machine is still brutally fast🤩😅
Good stuff! What were the setting for RX?
Thanks for your video! How can the leakage of other instruments be totally removed in the vocals?
There’s not much to do about it on the user end at the moment, it’s a limitation of the stem splitter algorithm. It’s very dependent on the mix.
I use DeMix essentials. It would be cool for you to compare it to that one also.
I just dream of a day when RUclipsrs stop making cheesy, chin-holding thumbnail poses, white outlining their photos, setting up a few lights in the background...all because THIS is what they're told to do. BE ORIGINAL!
Yes - those poses look absolutely ridiculous.
@@HollywoodRecordingStudio Tons of people (including myself) are starting to not even bother watching videos with these kinds of thumbnails bcoz it’s an endlessly regurgitated methodology. And if people aren’t creative enough to come up with some originality, I don’t even bother watching/subscribing. 🙄
@@michaelyolch79We’re all here though, so his chin holding… worked 😅
@@ElectroPanPipes We’re not here for the right reasons. Didn’t watch. Definitely not subscribing.
Don’t worry - you can use AI to separate the hand from the chin
Now, RX11 is out
So what, get logic it's better and has a million other functions
Moises is paid... free trial
Logic gets all wonky when you split a song after it has been stretched to the grid. I hope they fix this bug!
You missed Akai Stems.
Moises.Rhymes with noises.
Noted, Thanks!
RX is the worst out of the test… smh
Since Izotop was taken over by native instruments it goes steadily downwards.
Facts
No you do not have stem splitter in logic pro 11 if your mac has intel chips!!!!!!!!!! Stem splitter is greyed out and disabled so you will need another option than Logic Pro 11 or include buying a new Mac with apple chips then you will have Stem Splitter for the additional $200 far from free. I am here for the options because I cannot buy a new Mac just to use stem splitter (Yes I do have logic pro 11 and Intel chips on my iMac, stem splitter is disabled)
The best one is not on this list and it's free: UVR. You are welcome.
Well… Logic is technically free
@@ElectroPanPipes Yes, but I'm comparing it to the ones tested in the video except Logic.
UVR just separates vocals from intrumentals. Not even close.
@@sonidojamon Not at all. That's how it started, hence the name... But it evolved to a point that became the best one. It can do: Vocals/istrumental, Drums/No-Drums, Bass/No-Bass, 4 Stem Ensemble, Multi Stem Ensemble. And you can download many different algorithms. It is not the easiest, but it is the better sounding one and more complete.
Maybe try it and then let me know.
@@JuanJacinto I checked their website before replying, and looks like tthey haven't updated the app's UI capture images for some time. They are showing an early version. I went back and downloaded it and... You're damn right!! It's got plenty of options, it's open source, and has lots of tweakable stuff. It might be a little "geeky" for the average user, but it's an amazing and very powerful tool!! Thank you!!
If course not, it's just a tool.