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Seems like you have a great ethos for your gym and respect for all who chose the service. Cant agree enough with getting rid of weird power dynamics which IMO just leave room for abusive relationships
Great stuff. Its mind boggling that many gyms do not talk about these "rules" openly with their students but then get upset when new people break a rule they don't know exists. Communication is so much better than trying to infer behavioral expectations through "enforcers."
For sure! You can only imagine the other guy’s perspective. “I just got the crap beat out of me and I don’t even know why!” No one ignorant is ever going to learn if they’re not told.
I agree with you 100% However, maybe my best day grappling ever was enforcing on a dude who was going full spaz on some smaller female training partners including my wife. Something about that appealed to my lizard brain and I felt sexually proficient for the first time in my life.
Matching intensity is such an important rule for me as a woman in BJJ. The closest I’ve come to being injured has always been while rolling with spazzy newbie white belts. They either don’t know how to adjust to someone smaller than them or they feel they can’t let themselves lose to a woman so they go 150%
Don't be afraid to say "no" to those white belts (or anyone who you're not comfortable rolling with, for that matter). Better to save yourself from injuries 🙏
When I roll with women, I 100% try to win using technique only, I don't feel like I'm learning from my opponent by leveraging my weight and muscle mass as a man. It doesn't do anything for me. I'm always mindful of that when rolling with women, especially when they are more experienced. I'm only a white belt, so I'm primarily there to learn.
As a new white belt, I’ve had to roll with this 5’ 100 pound girl and i chose to go lighter on her because, me being 80 pounds heavier, i could toss her around easy but who would that help? I try to use as little strength as possible and beat her with technique. It will makes us both better.
Proper hygiene and nail trimming rules you mentioned are absolutely essential. Sometimes we assume people know these basic things. No shame in reminding new people 👍 Will also add in that some of the old school gyms are against sharing techniques - IE, they didn't learn move x until they were a brown belt so neither should you. There should be a focus on fundamentals, but the sport has evolved and styles should as well. Happy to say my home gym culture checks all the boxes that matter to me, and appreciate the work you do here on the channel 💪
Black belt here. Totally agree with everything. Also, this is a very well put together and edited video. As a RUclipsr myself, I know exactly how tough it is to make something like this! Congratulations again.🎉
As a 40-something white belt, I probably tap too early when it comes to arm bars. I got sidelined for five years due to a shoulder injury from BJJ and crossfit. So now, I’m probably over sensitive. If I feel like the submission is close, my partner is putting in some effort, and I don’t have an answer for it, I tap even if it isn’t quite at the point of no return. Once I do though, I’ll tell my partner, and then let them finish the technical side more slowly so that they can finish the technique and I’m not going to the ER. I would rather tap to the position and then ease in to the submission rather than try and stick out the last few seconds and go home with a torn rotator cuff.
This is a solid list, I agree with all. One submission I will always tap early to are armbars. I tapped late once to an armbar and hyperextended it and was hurt for at least a month so now anytime my partners break my grip for the armbar I will tap right away. I also try not to tap from pressure such as knee on belly pressure and body lock or side control pressure from bigger/stronger opponents but at times I am very close to tapping.
I love tapping people with body locks haha. Definitely gotta tap early to armbars. I've done the same as a whitebelt. Learned real quick not to do that anymore.
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu nothing like popping a rib outta place from someone squeezing a body lock. Gotta respectfully disagree with you on this one Jordan. Like you mentioned in the video, strength shouldn't take the place of technique and how technical is squeezing someone in a body lock? I just don't see it, but I'm open to hearing your perspective.
@@MrNbkelly Ok, I'll put pressure on you, and you tell me when your lower ribs are about to dislocate or break. Ribs, knees etc do not have the same nerve response that other parts of the body do. Sometimes it's not easy to tell when something will pop, dislocate, break etc. So, in general I agree with the above that squeezing is not technique, and it can cause injuries. It's literally an instant, binary feeling of "There's pressure but it doesn't hurt" and "oh shit something hurts like hell!". Elbows give you lots of warning, and don't immediately break when you feel pain. And sometimes, with knees, you might only feel the real pain AFTER your tear something. Just look up the video of the guy who is squeezing his own leg doing an improper triangle technique, and pops his leg out of it's hip socket... I'm sure if he felt appropriate pain before his entire leg literally dislocated, he would have stopped pulling his own leg. Some things are just not obvious.
@MrNbkelly i currently have a slight fracture in my bottom rib due to a body triangle, when it comes on itll go from you can hold the pressure to a broken rib lol. Anytime someone squeezes a body triangle i just tap not worth it for me
04:06 Hit close to home, I've had a bad experience with a black belt who wasn't the best person and would also try to absolutly dominate and even hurt people if they got the better of him during a roll. This led to me leaving that gym. Point of the matter is, say something if you don't want to roll with someone, even if they are further along in they're journey. To bad that black belt was my old coach :( Love the video Jordon
Same thing happened to me. My first/old coach would be the crap out of me. I always left in pain. I hate seeing stuff like that having experienced it so bad.
Similar situation where my coach rolled super hard on me as a brand new student ( leaving me in extreme pain). He thought I was challenging him when I simply asked to roll since I was only person without training partner . Sat me down next day and said it was not okay for me to ask to roll with him since hes a teacher/black belt. It didn’t sit right with me so I left after I told him how uncomfortable I was now .
@@the3dpros459 its ashame he even took it as a challenge as you were a brand new student. You were just looking to get experience and his ego was hurt for some reason.
Great video Jordan, I’m a 40 year old blue belt with past mma experience, just switched gyms from where I got my blue, coach was allowing a new meathead to constantly slam people, I ended up getting injured along with a few others and they were more upset that I was pissed, glad my original teacher was still around who says that was a bunch BS
I wasn't aware that some coaches get mad if you do a move they don't teach. I'm from a Gracie Barra school (very traditional, hate leg locks, and try to follow the Gracies). When I started playing rubber guard, my coach didn't understand at first, but when I showed him some videos, he said it was fine and even let me show him a few moves.
Being a black belt I visited a friendly academy to train, but nobody picked me to roll with them. I felt kind of left out, untill somebody pointed out to me they had this unwritten rule not to ask black belts to roll with them. Silly rule, imo.
I really liked your point about promotions! To me, the importance of the next stripe or belt isn't a piece of cloth or "rank" but that it represents my improvement at the sport. If I ask about the next stripe or belt, I am wanting to know what I need to do to improve to that next level of competency. I wish it was more acceptable to have open conversations like that in BJJ gyms.
"I am wanting to know how to improve to that next level of competency" That's such an excellent way of putting it. Exactly why it should be more normalized and clear.
Second day in gym. Long time marital artist. I very much enjoyed this video. Seems my gym is doing pretty good here. Most of these are good common sense. I picked up some good tips as well. Which is why I watched it in the first place! Total rookie here. Thank you for the video, well appreciated.
how can anyone disagree when stuff is explained in such a calm voice? :-) I'm new to BJJ and I am so happy that we live in a day and age when I can come in to the gym prepared with some of those unwritten rules and "don't be that guy" videos. Noone explained to me much in the gym at the start and I didn't ask much too, just trying to follow what coach is saying and survive, those videos do provide a bit of confidence on that journey. thanks!
Coming from a traditional martial arts background I was always worried to be late even though people came in late all the time. In karate we got scolded and made to do push-ups if we were late. In bjj if I show up late cause of traffic coach says whatever and we continue with class.
It makes sense to care more about it when it's a team sport and you need everyone there to start. But the nice thing with sth like bjj is that you can do it with any amount of ppl.
RE: Match Intensity -- I'd add something like 'be proportionally and appropriately defensively intense with an inexperienced training partner.' I'm currently off the mats for 4-6 weeks with pins in my finger because I decided to go strength for strength with someone less experienced. Looking back, I should have played my usual game, which is defend myself, let them burn themselves out, and look for windows to skillfully attack.
I really like the dissection and dissemination of new and old rules. Especially brushing your teeth man, couldn't figure out why people were tapping when I pushed my face near there's!
I have three kids, some evenings I have to wait for the wife to get home from work and tag me out so I can race off to the gym, making me a few minutes late to class. I hate being late to anything, especially something I enjoy attending and pay money to attend. But sometimes it's out of my control, not due to being disorganised. Other than that, great video, awesome content, I look forward to your videos Jordan.
I like your take on the first rule you talk about. Good technique does not mean a lack of strength. Good technique means an efficient use of the strength you have.
good stuff, some karate buddies of mine won't coe train w/us because of fear of insulting their teacher. It makes me wonder how much is an honor thing vs. a profit thing! All my teachers encouraged working w/other students and other schools. 100% grateful for that!
Ha I had a lower rank guy come to me last night asking to roll but also apologizing for overstepping his place (in his mind). I had to reassure him that I couldn't care less and he should never hesitate to ask anyone for rolls. Overall I think I agreed with basically everything in your list.
Never trained in an actual gym before so my opinion doesn’t mean anything, but rolling with a higher belt seems like the best way to learn. On the other hand I can see how pride, ego and true skill may cause some people to not want to roll with the lower belts.
@billparris210 in general yes. You're more likely to learn stuff and way less likely to get hurt because they lack control and/or do stupid stuff. The learning part though is a coin flip as some upper belts are perfectly happy to just use you as a small step above a training dummy and aren't the teaching type.
Excellent video, something all gym instructors and practitioners should watch and follow. A way of dealing with dirty feet is having a tray full of water with disinfectant and a rug that they can dry their feet before stepping on the mat.
I totally agree with you man. Destroying ego doesn't always work. It is effective against those who are cocky, but you can't be certain if the person just doesn't know how to control their strenght(newbies especially). Communication is key
Great video Jordan! It's almost hard to believe that some of these have to be pointed out. In addition to #8 - also, don't "celebrate" a submission. Like you said, "you're not trying to win a practice round....." Lol
We have guys at our gym that go to multiple gyms. They get different looks elsewhere, then try stuff at our gym. I love it because those guys always seem to bring something new to the mat. Great vid!
Moving for higher belts is a good starting point for safety. Ultimately it should come down to position, if I'm in guard while white belts next to me are going for a sub or some weird position that will be difficult to replicate, I get up. Only time I'll call rank is when a pair keep rolling into other people, the gym isn't ADCC, we don't need to chase each other off the mats and risk hurting others.
My rule about using strengh is, you can use strength while rolling, but try not to use brute strength to complete a submission. You can use strength by applying slow steady pressure, which gives your partner time to recognize the danger of imminent submission and enough time to tap from it, but you should not yank away like your life depended on it. That's how injuries occur.
When I changed gyms due to life situation changing which made it impossible to train at the old place, the owner told me I'm always welcome to train with them, and we made an agreement that I can pay the yearly membership fee of $30 and drop in when I could. Dude's awesome.
Awesome take on the "unspoken rules", there was actually some in there that I've never heard before. Specifically the whole turn away from people when you're tieing your belt / pants, I've never heard of this one 😆
First time watching a video of yours. Absolutely loved it. I’m happy to see solid people come to the same conclusions i came to durning my years of training. Hopefully the future of Bjj schools will looks a lot different in a positive way in the coming years. Cheers. 💪🏻💪🏻
Thanks, Jordan. Yet another good video. I've enjoyed this new, laid-back, and informative format. Not everything has to be techniques/fundamentals/tricks. Cheers, mate PS: I've been accused of being a 'Creonte' as well. Not directly, but I've had people pissed at me, thinking I was betraying them, or whatever. Fortunately I started BJJ at 40, and generally do not cater to such drama. Want to make a big fuss out of it? Go right ahead, and I'll just move along. Truth is that life isn't only BJJ, and we do, sometimes, need to change gyms, cities, whatever. The idyllic master-student relationship for life is just that, an idyllic scenario, not reality.
👊 always good to hear the unspokens from a black belt/gym owner, keeps those newer to the sport like myself from guessing whats what. Thanks for your time and perspective when putting all that together.
I do sometimes tap early when I just don't trust my training partner. I might like to see if I can get a hitch hiker escape but if they are slamming the arm bar on then I don't see the point in risking my arm. But this does wrap round to your earlier point about looking after your training partner.
100%. Zero point in risking your arm. Gotta protect yourself at all times. What I'm referring to moreso is super early of taps before the sub is anywhere near close 🙂
I really like the dissection and dissemination of new rules. Especially brushing your teeth man, couldn't figure out why people were tapping when I pushed my face near there's!
I agree with everything you said whole heartedly and wish every gym was as humble and professional as yours. I haven’t ever heard of the facing the wall to tie your belt or pants. I don’t do it when it’s adults around but when the kids class had ended and there is still kids gathered up with their parents I will face the wall just as a courtesy… and I’d just feel weird if I were facing them. My last gym our dressing area was kind of hodge podged in one room and I always felt weird changing from my street clothes into No gi wearing compression underwear while there was teenage girls in the same room I travel for work and it was a small gym, plus their father trained as well and was always in sight making it more comfortable for me anyway.
Great video! On the topic of turning away while trying your belt. In most classical martial arts like karate and kempo this is considered to be the proper behavior, I also did it this way, assuming it's expected in bjj as well, till my trainer said, "Hey you really don't need to turn away..." :)
I'm just glad that I found this channel. Just had a roll today and my partner (we are both white belts and we are both explosive to each other. He kinda slammed me while he caught me with a triangle, hit my head on the mat (not in a bad angle) but I heard my neck cracked. I immediately stopped but I did not feel any pain or any swelling. I'm still scared now. I ended up rolling with a Blue belt and survived the last round. Anyone ever experienced a neck crack while rolling?
Hey man, if you feel any kind of pain, numbness, or anything similar, please visit a doctor. Ya, most of us had a "neck crack" or two during a roll, but it could be nothing - or "something". If you're worried, best to get it checked out 🙂
Jordan, impressive video highly value and respectful... From Spain a white belt with 6 months training and 46 years old... Great advice may God bless you always I wish to one day go by your gym and jujitsu during vacation 🙏🙏🥋🥋👍
Great stuff! All pretty common senses cal to me now, I was oblivious to much of it as a white and blue belt, noticed some people didn’t want to roll with me, so had to learn the hard way sadly.
as a white belt who started his jujitsu journey two months ago to the day, I was told by a close relative of mine, who is a new blue belt to only roll with tire belts. And by doing so it has paid off tremendously.
Thank you for mentioning filing. I play guitar, which means that my right hand has longer finger nails. I have never cut someone with my (comparatively) long nails, because they don't have any jagged edges. I have however, been cut by people who keep their nails short, as they either cut them unevenly or leave corners sharp.
These rules are stellar, and I mostly agree and I think more gyms the be explicit with them, especially hygienic and safety rules. I do go to a gym where I have seen guys who were too rough with women get "beat up", basically just tapped over and over by a black belt, not physically harmed, and while talking is great and probably best, it was nice to know the coach had our backs. Any combative sport can be intimidating, but it can be extra scary as a woman coming in and not knowing if the men in the gym will respect you.
I agree with most etiquettes you’ve listed. Some gyms have bullies as instructors and they just want to hurt you and make you feel like crap cos they are a higher rank. It’s good to see not all gyms are like that.
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu Yes sir, you are very articulate and did an excellent job of breaking down common BJJ gym issues. I had a lot of reservations of leaving my current BJJ gym to join another, but seeing your video helped me so much. Definitely subscribing.
Respecting the tap and good hygiene should be some of the first things someone learns in BJJ. It is essential to what we do and should be engrained into people from the start. When turning my back to tie my belt, I was taught to show respect to my instructor. I don't know where the idea came from, but I don't mind doing it. Most people at my school don't do it, and now it is just a habit. Great video as always man!
21 is always hilarious. I feel my meme face come out. On the other hand I've had rolls with different people that have poor submission mechanics. Sometimes #21 makes asking if they need help with a move seem like they could get you with a crappy technique. There's a dude i trained with for years that would pull this card. Watching people's faces when they realized,"ive been robbed ". Completely priceless..... but he also collected injuries from people that felt the need for pay back by not accepting his tap,"Card Declined".
Great rules. At the couple of 10th planets I trained at we have a tub with an anti bacterial and anti fungal solution we step into when getting on the mat from entry or the bathroom. Also with the strict rule of no bare feet in the bathroom. And the mats are disinfected with a cleaning solution between classes. I think it's a smart standard to have. Anything to reduce the chance of getting staph, MRSA, or the lot is refreshing.
Sometimes I tap when my arm, hand or head/neck gets caught in a weird position that is hurting whatever is caught. And people stop and are like why did you tap or don’t tap to pressure and I just explain and say why, I always offer to continue from the same position but sometimes people get frustrated and don’t want to continue from that position and start over, how come? I mean I have to right to stop the roll if I am hurting.
One thing about brushing teeth is that a lot of peoples bad breath comes from their tongue. Brushing or scraping your tongue is a very good habit if you don't want to have bad breath.
The dynamic of owning a gym is that it is also a business. The maintaining of the belt integrity and keeping people interested is real. Unfortunately, i think some gyms don’t realize this. There is this kinda attitude that you either have to be all in for BJJ and its not a big deal that its a business. This is just stupid. You can run an outstanding gym and an excellent business. I do think the vague belt system is just dumb and I personally want to earn my belts but I don’t like the unknown dynamics of the belt system. its really cryptic and I have seen some RUclips personalities actually brag about it. It also creates sandbaggers that stay in blue or purple too long and dominate any competitions. Really guys did you do something extraordinary by doing this? Not at all. LOVE THE CHANNEL. Best wishes from Salt Lake City Utah. Unified forever.
Here is a thing to add, don't just brush your teeth before training. FLOSS. The stuff that smells nasty and gets blocked between your back teeth doesn't come out with just a toothbrush. And with no flossing, it stays there and decays and smells pretty bad... Mouthwash won't cut it either, and usually water floss (waterpik) won't fully take it out half the time... Physically removing it with a string, rubbing both sides of the gap, is the only way. I actually had to tell that to a few training partners... I did take them aside, with nobody else listening, at the end of the session, and prefaced it with "I have something a bit challenging to talk about but that's only because I care that I'm making the effort to talk about it". And it went well. Now their breath doesn't stink anymore...
Not coaching someone though a sub is a great rule, but there's been a few times when a newish student is trying an armbar on me (I get armbarred a lot because I have bad habits with my elbow security, and have pretty good defense for after it's started) and they just get stuck on my defense I'll tell them what they need to do to finish it, e.g. pinning my head, pushing my other arm away, engaging their hips, or switching to a variant or different sub (I love/hate the razor armbar variant with the gi, or switching to a triangle) but ONLY after I'm certain that they are in fact stuck there and can't finish.
Great video. Can you clarify what grab fingers means? Like actually aim to grab individual fingers and manipulate them to cause discomfort or does this also include Messing with grips and getting in the way so they can join hands? Cheers
As per tying the gi or belt. I did karate for 7 years got my black belt and the sensei instilled in us to not let the belt touch the ground as it’s a sign or disrespect and to turn and go on a knee for tying the belt. I still do it to this day to a degree but understandably it’s a different style
I have never heard the “face the wall when you tie your belt or pants” one. I don’t really understand it even for pants. It’s not like I’m dropping them, I’m just resting a drawstring. I have had training partners start to tap just to position and it’s incredibly frustrating. If I sweep a couple guys (who are the same rank I am) and take half guard or side control they tap and say “I never get out of that”. I usually offer to work through the position with them but try wave it off and want to reset. Of course, we inevitably end up back in that position and repeat the cycle.
In my opinion, if it's that frustrating for you just roll with more experienced people. It's probably even more frustrating for them to be made uncomfortable because they tap too early. Learning to handle discomfort and tough positions is part of the journey and not everyone gets there at the same pace.
We had an open mat tonight and a female two stripe blue ran us through some triangle and mobility stuff then we had 3 rolls (there was 4 of us) at the end she took her whole Gi off! hahaha I was leaving but thinking, she is just stripping off?! She had a top on and some kind of shorts but it was a long shot from the old traditional turn away from the mat Japanese style respect stuff! I'm not bothered, as long as people don't smell bad. Nothing worse than being in someones sweaty pit, that is enough to tap for me!
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Seems like you have a great ethos for your gym and respect for all who chose the service. Cant agree enough with getting rid of weird power dynamics which IMO just leave room for abusive relationships
As always amazing brother! I thank the lord for you & your channel. Yes it starts at the top.
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Great video! I personally think it's OK to grab fingers as long as you grab all four but I basically agree with every bit of what you said.
Great stuff. Its mind boggling that many gyms do not talk about these "rules" openly with their students but then get upset when new people break a rule they don't know exists. Communication is so much better than trying to infer behavioral expectations through "enforcers."
I totally agree. Also, so many guys are unwilling to communicate. They just leave it up to the instructor to notice and address.
For sure! You can only imagine the other guy’s perspective. “I just got the crap beat out of me and I don’t even know why!” No one ignorant is ever going to learn if they’re not told.
Communication is really the ultimate solution to so many problems in life in general, yet people don't want to do it. Blows my mind.
I agree with you 100% However, maybe my best day grappling ever was enforcing on a dude who was going full spaz on some smaller female training partners including my wife. Something about that appealed to my lizard brain and I felt sexually proficient for the first time in my life.
@@kevinhom75 "sexually proficienct"?! What exactly did you do to this guy🤣
Matching intensity is such an important rule for me as a woman in BJJ. The closest I’ve come to being injured has always been while rolling with spazzy newbie white belts. They either don’t know how to adjust to someone smaller than them or they feel they can’t let themselves lose to a woman so they go 150%
Don't be afraid to say "no" to those white belts (or anyone who you're not comfortable rolling with, for that matter). Better to save yourself from injuries 🙏
When I roll with women, I 100% try to win using technique only, I don't feel like I'm learning from my opponent by leveraging my weight and muscle mass as a man. It doesn't do anything for me. I'm always mindful of that when rolling with women, especially when they are more experienced. I'm only a white belt, so I'm primarily there to learn.
As a new white belt, I’ve had to roll with this 5’ 100 pound girl and i chose to go lighter on her because, me being 80 pounds heavier, i could toss her around easy but who would that help? I try to use as little strength as possible and beat her with technique. It will makes us both better.
Ngl I'm the latter I'm that guy. I'm sorry my ego is huge at least I admit it
@@TheMinecraftSlendy But "technique" literally is leveraging your weight and muscle mass.
Proper hygiene and nail trimming rules you mentioned are absolutely essential. Sometimes we assume people know these basic things. No shame in reminding new people 👍
Will also add in that some of the old school gyms are against sharing techniques - IE, they didn't learn move x until they were a brown belt so neither should you. There should be a focus on fundamentals, but the sport has evolved and styles should as well.
Happy to say my home gym culture checks all the boxes that matter to me, and appreciate the work you do here on the channel 💪
Literally got my hands scratched up by somebody yesterday 🥲
In my first gym there was a guy i avoided rolling with at all costs. Why? Because i could easily tell that he had male cats living inside his house……
Not just new people there’s black belts who fucking stank haha
Black belt here. Totally agree with everything. Also, this is a very well put together and edited video. As a RUclipsr myself, I know exactly how tough it is to make something like this! Congratulations again.🎉
Thank you! It's a lot of work being a content creator. Only other creators know the struggle 🙏
This video really made me appreciate getting to train at Chewy’s gym. Everyone there is super respectful, reasonable, and competitive.
you roll with the chewy? amazing!
That's gotta be an awesome gym to be at I love where I train but that gym is on my bucket list
As a 40-something white belt, I probably tap too early when it comes to arm bars. I got sidelined for five years due to a shoulder injury from BJJ and crossfit. So now, I’m probably over sensitive.
If I feel like the submission is close, my partner is putting in some effort, and I don’t have an answer for it, I tap even if it isn’t quite at the point of no return. Once I do though, I’ll tell my partner, and then let them finish the technical side more slowly so that they can finish the technique and I’m not going to the ER.
I would rather tap to the position and then ease in to the submission rather than try and stick out the last few seconds and go home with a torn rotator cuff.
I’m 8 months in, started at 48 y/o. I tap early when I don’t trust my training partner and when they bitch about it I explain to them why.
Well… CrossFit was your first mistake
This is a solid list, I agree with all. One submission I will always tap early to are armbars. I tapped late once to an armbar and hyperextended it and was hurt for at least a month so now anytime my partners break my grip for the armbar I will tap right away. I also try not to tap from pressure such as knee on belly pressure and body lock or side control pressure from bigger/stronger opponents but at times I am very close to tapping.
I love tapping people with body locks haha. Definitely gotta tap early to armbars. I've done the same as a whitebelt. Learned real quick not to do that anymore.
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu nothing like popping a rib outta place from someone squeezing a body lock. Gotta respectfully disagree with you on this one Jordan. Like you mentioned in the video, strength shouldn't take the place of technique and how technical is squeezing someone in a body lock? I just don't see it, but I'm open to hearing your perspective.
@@BH-ix7nq Isn't it on you to tap before a rib dislocates?
@@MrNbkelly Ok, I'll put pressure on you, and you tell me when your lower ribs are about to dislocate or break. Ribs, knees etc do not have the same nerve response that other parts of the body do. Sometimes it's not easy to tell when something will pop, dislocate, break etc. So, in general I agree with the above that squeezing is not technique, and it can cause injuries. It's literally an instant, binary feeling of "There's pressure but it doesn't hurt" and "oh shit something hurts like hell!". Elbows give you lots of warning, and don't immediately break when you feel pain. And sometimes, with knees, you might only feel the real pain AFTER your tear something.
Just look up the video of the guy who is squeezing his own leg doing an improper triangle technique, and pops his leg out of it's hip socket... I'm sure if he felt appropriate pain before his entire leg literally dislocated, he would have stopped pulling his own leg. Some things are just not obvious.
@MrNbkelly i currently have a slight fracture in my bottom rib due to a body triangle, when it comes on itll go from you can hold the pressure to a broken rib lol. Anytime someone squeezes a body triangle i just tap not worth it for me
04:06 Hit close to home, I've had a bad experience with a black belt who wasn't the best person and would also try to absolutly dominate and even hurt people if they got the better of him during a roll. This led to me leaving that gym. Point of the matter is, say something if you don't want to roll with someone, even if they are further along in they're journey. To bad that black belt was my old coach :( Love the video Jordon
Same thing happened to me. My first/old coach would be the crap out of me. I always left in pain. I hate seeing stuff like that having experienced it so bad.
My old coach used to roll so hard and aggressively that one time i caught him in a wrist lock and he got so mad he ended up tearing my rotator cuff
@@aboudhh bad experience... someone to leave for sure.
Similar situation where my coach rolled super hard on me as a brand new student ( leaving me in extreme pain). He thought I was challenging him when I simply asked to roll since I was only person without training partner . Sat me down next day and said it was not okay for me to ask to roll with him since hes a teacher/black belt. It didn’t sit right with me so I left after I told him how uncomfortable I was now .
@@the3dpros459 its ashame he even took it as a challenge as you were a brand new student. You were just looking to get experience and his ego was hurt for some reason.
Great video Jordan, I’m a 40 year old blue belt with past mma experience, just switched gyms from where I got my blue, coach was allowing a new meathead to constantly slam people, I ended up getting injured along with a few others and they were more upset that I was pissed, glad my original teacher was still around who says that was a bunch BS
I wasn't aware that some coaches get mad if you do a move they don't teach. I'm from a Gracie Barra school (very traditional, hate leg locks, and try to follow the Gracies). When I started playing rubber guard, my coach didn't understand at first, but when I showed him some videos, he said it was fine and even let me show him a few moves.
I'd say that your coach has an open mindset, which is great. You're probably in a good school 🙂
Jordan. Always bringing the logic and commonsense approach to Jiu Jitsu. Great stuff! 👊🏼
Being a black belt I visited a friendly academy to train, but nobody picked me to roll with them. I felt kind of left out, untill somebody pointed out to me they had this unwritten rule not to ask black belts to roll with them. Silly rule, imo.
Another reason that rule is dumb. I feel the same. I want people to ask me to roll when visiting a gym.
Never seen this in striking arts, I've definitely been breaking that rule in BJJ all the time lol
Your breaking Strong holds and barriers. Paving a new way. A true leader.
Doing my best to 🙂. Thank you!
I really liked your point about promotions! To me, the importance of the next stripe or belt isn't a piece of cloth or "rank" but that it represents my improvement at the sport. If I ask about the next stripe or belt, I am wanting to know what I need to do to improve to that next level of competency. I wish it was more acceptable to have open conversations like that in BJJ gyms.
"I am wanting to know how to improve to that next level of competency" That's such an excellent way of putting it. Exactly why it should be more normalized and clear.
Second day in gym. Long time marital artist. I very much enjoyed this video. Seems my gym is doing pretty good here. Most of these are good common sense. I picked up some good tips as well. Which is why I watched it in the first place! Total rookie here. Thank you for the video, well appreciated.
how can anyone disagree when stuff is explained in such a calm voice? :-) I'm new to BJJ and I am so happy that we live in a day and age when I can come in to the gym prepared with some of those unwritten rules and "don't be that guy" videos. Noone explained to me much in the gym at the start and I didn't ask much too, just trying to follow what coach is saying and survive, those videos do provide a bit of confidence on that journey.
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I agree with them all. The turning around to tie your belt seems old school to me along with bowing when you step on and off the mats.
I should have included bowing, in hindsight. Damnit haha
Coming from a traditional martial arts background I was always worried to be late even though people came in late all the time. In karate we got scolded and made to do push-ups if we were late. In bjj if I show up late cause of traffic coach says whatever and we continue with class.
The way it should be 💯
It makes sense to care more about it when it's a team sport and you need everyone there to start.
But the nice thing with sth like bjj is that you can do it with any amount of ppl.
RE: Match Intensity -- I'd add something like 'be proportionally and appropriately defensively intense with an inexperienced training partner.' I'm currently off the mats for 4-6 weeks with pins in my finger because I decided to go strength for strength with someone less experienced. Looking back, I should have played my usual game, which is defend myself, let them burn themselves out, and look for windows to skillfully attack.
I really like the dissection and dissemination of new and old rules. Especially brushing your teeth man, couldn't figure out why people were tapping when I pushed my face near there's!
You're my favorite digital ninja man. Love the videos and honestly they have made my transition into JJ so much easier. Thanks bro
I appreciate that so much. Thank you!
Great content! The production and quality of these videos are amazing!!
Thank you! My editor Ben made this one completely. Turned out great.
I have three kids, some evenings I have to wait for the wife to get home from work and tag me out so I can race off to the gym, making me a few minutes late to class. I hate being late to anything, especially something I enjoy attending and pay money to attend. But sometimes it's out of my control, not due to being disorganised. Other than that, great video, awesome content, I look forward to your videos Jordan.
100%. If you have a legit reason there is nothing wrong with being late. If it's due to laziness or lack of organization then that should be adjusted.
I like your take on the first rule you talk about. Good technique does not mean a lack of strength. Good technique means an efficient use of the strength you have.
Exactly. Efficiency is everything.
Good to see a communicator communicating about communication!
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What a great video. Jordan reminds me of my own instructor in Western Australia, Adam Metcalf, who is both my teacher and mentor.
good stuff, some karate buddies of mine won't coe train w/us because of fear of insulting their teacher. It makes me wonder how much is an honor thing vs. a profit thing! All my teachers encouraged working w/other students and other schools. 100% grateful for that!
Ha I had a lower rank guy come to me last night asking to roll but also apologizing for overstepping his place (in his mind). I had to reassure him that I couldn't care less and he should never hesitate to ask anyone for rolls.
Overall I think I agreed with basically everything in your list.
Great advice and attitude. And thank you!
Never trained in an actual gym before so my opinion doesn’t mean anything, but rolling with a higher belt seems like the best way to learn. On the other hand I can see how pride, ego and true skill may cause some people to not want to roll with the lower belts.
@billparris210 in general yes. You're more likely to learn stuff and way less likely to get hurt because they lack control and/or do stupid stuff. The learning part though is a coin flip as some upper belts are perfectly happy to just use you as a small step above a training dummy and aren't the teaching type.
Excellent video, something all gym instructors and practitioners should watch and follow. A way of dealing with dirty feet is having a tray full of water with disinfectant and a rug that they can dry their feet before stepping on the mat.
Loved these "rules" definitely cleared a few up for me. Thank you 🙏
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Happy to help 🙂
I totally agree with you man. Destroying ego doesn't always work. It is effective against those who are cocky, but you can't be certain if the person just doesn't know how to control their strenght(newbies especially). Communication is key
Great video Jordan! It's almost hard to believe that some of these have to be pointed out.
In addition to #8 - also, don't "celebrate" a submission. Like you said, "you're not trying to win a practice round....." Lol
We need signs on the door asap to avoid pee particles lol
I don’t celebrate. I am happy of my progress tho. I went in almost two months ago so when i made someone tap out it felt nice.
We have guys at our gym that go to multiple gyms. They get different looks elsewhere, then try stuff at our gym. I love it because those guys always seem to bring something new to the mat. Great vid!
This video is next level. Your killing it dude.
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Excellent rules. I appreciate that you're open to differing opinions but yours all make sense to me.
Thank you for this video. Tonight is my second class so this is very helpful!!
Happy to help 🙂 Have fun!
Moving for higher belts is a good starting point for safety. Ultimately it should come down to position, if I'm in guard while white belts next to me are going for a sub or some weird position that will be difficult to replicate, I get up. Only time I'll call rank is when a pair keep rolling into other people, the gym isn't ADCC, we don't need to chase each other off the mats and risk hurting others.
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My rule about using strengh is, you can use strength while rolling, but try not to use brute strength to complete a submission. You can use strength by applying slow steady pressure, which gives your partner time to recognize the danger of imminent submission and enough time to tap from it, but you should not yank away like your life depended on it. That's how injuries occur.
This was amazing. I feel like these should be posted in every gym.
I'm very thankful the gym and team mates I train with, are very aligned to these points.
We need more masters like you around beginners
These basic rules you provide lead to a very chill atmosphere in your gym. I look foward to rolling in your gym sometime.
Thank you, I hope you can one day!
When I changed gyms due to life situation changing which made it impossible to train at the old place, the owner told me I'm always welcome to train with them, and we made an agreement that I can pay the yearly membership fee of $30 and drop in when I could.
Dude's awesome.
Perfect. Top to bottom. I wish you were in the states i would definitely come through for some rolls while i traveled for work.
Thank you! That would be nice. Maybe I'll be up your way one day 🙂
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu Fingers crossed! What part of Canada are you in?
@@cameronsnyder1246 small town in southern Ontario. Not far from NY State actually.
Awesome take on the "unspoken rules", there was actually some in there that I've never heard before. Specifically the whole turn away from people when you're tieing your belt / pants, I've never heard of this one 😆
Thanks man! Australia seems to chill to have a rule like that haha
😅😅 you're not wrong
First time watching a video of yours. Absolutely loved it. I’m happy to see solid people come to the same conclusions i came to durning my years of training. Hopefully the future of Bjj schools will looks a lot different in a positive way in the coming years. Cheers. 💪🏻💪🏻
Thanks, Jordan.
Yet another good video.
I've enjoyed this new, laid-back, and informative format.
Not everything has to be techniques/fundamentals/tricks.
Cheers, mate
PS: I've been accused of being a 'Creonte' as well. Not directly, but I've had people pissed at me, thinking I was betraying them, or whatever. Fortunately I started BJJ at 40, and generally do not cater to such drama. Want to make a big fuss out of it? Go right ahead, and I'll just move along. Truth is that life isn't only BJJ, and we do, sometimes, need to change gyms, cities, whatever. The idyllic master-student relationship for life is just that, an idyllic scenario, not reality.
Amazing video as always Jordan! Love what you said about use the minimum effective dose
Love it man. You’re the ego killer. That explains your skill level too!
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👊 always good to hear the unspokens from a black belt/gym owner, keeps those newer to the sport like myself from guessing whats what. Thanks for your time and perspective when putting all that together.
Was just saying I needed a good video for new white belt orientation, thank you for this
I do sometimes tap early when I just don't trust my training partner. I might like to see if I can get a hitch hiker escape but if they are slamming the arm bar on then I don't see the point in risking my arm. But this does wrap round to your earlier point about looking after your training partner.
100%. Zero point in risking your arm. Gotta protect yourself at all times. What I'm referring to moreso is super early of taps before the sub is anywhere near close 🙂
Awesome content, as always. Agree with all of your points. It's a shame that not everyone seems to share the same mindset about the martial arts
I really like the dissection and dissemination of new rules. Especially brushing your teeth man, couldn't figure out why people were tapping when I pushed my face near there's!
So many great points in this video. Keep them coming Jordan
Thank you! I will 🙂
I agree with everything you said whole heartedly and wish every gym was as humble and professional as yours.
I haven’t ever heard of the facing the wall to tie your belt or pants. I don’t do it when it’s adults around but when the kids class had ended and there is still kids gathered up with their parents I will face the wall just as a courtesy… and I’d just feel weird if I were facing them. My last gym our dressing area was kind of hodge podged in one room and I always felt weird changing from my street clothes into No gi wearing compression underwear while there was teenage girls in the same room
I travel for work and it was a small gym, plus their father trained as well and was always in sight making it more comfortable for me anyway.
Great video! On the topic of turning away while trying your belt. In most classical martial arts like karate and kempo this is considered to be the proper behavior, I also did it this way, assuming it's expected in bjj as well, till my trainer said, "Hey you really don't need to turn away..." :)
I'm just glad that I found this channel. Just had a roll today and my partner (we are both white belts and we are both explosive to each other. He kinda slammed me while he caught me with a triangle, hit my head on the mat (not in a bad angle) but I heard my neck cracked. I immediately stopped but I did not feel any pain or any swelling. I'm still scared now. I ended up rolling with a Blue belt and survived the last round. Anyone ever experienced a neck crack while rolling?
Hey man, if you feel any kind of pain, numbness, or anything similar, please visit a doctor. Ya, most of us had a "neck crack" or two during a roll, but it could be nothing - or "something". If you're worried, best to get it checked out 🙂
Jordan, impressive video highly value and respectful... From Spain a white belt with 6 months training and 46 years old... Great advice may God bless you always I wish to one day go by your gym and jujitsu during vacation 🙏🙏🥋🥋👍
Thank you so much! Hopefully I can visit Spain sometime. It looks so beautiful.
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu yes please do come tu Asturias and visit the gym the team RBT Brazilian jujitsu 🙏💪💪🥋🥋
Man Jordan, you seem like my vibe for a coach! Wish I lived where you guys are.
Great stuff! All pretty common senses cal to me now, I was oblivious to much of it as a white and blue belt, noticed some people didn’t want to roll with me, so had to learn the hard way sadly.
Great channel. This video is good for me, as i just started in BJJ. You are definitely a savage athlete, just like Rick. keep up the good work.
Thanks man! I wish you had started while you were in the area. Still happy you started though! :)
Awesome, love this. Thanks for always dishing out great info, Jordan.
as a white belt who started his jujitsu journey two months ago to the day, I was told by a close relative of mine, who is a new blue belt to only roll with tire belts. And by doing so it has paid off tremendously.
Solid advice!
What's a tire belt?
Thank you for mentioning filing.
I play guitar, which means that my right hand has longer finger nails. I have never cut someone with my (comparatively) long nails, because they don't have any jagged edges.
I have however, been cut by people who keep their nails short, as they either cut them unevenly or leave corners sharp.
People often leave out filing when talking about nail hygiene unfortunately. It's definitely more crucial than the length!
These rules are stellar, and I mostly agree and I think more gyms the be explicit with them, especially hygienic and safety rules. I do go to a gym where I have seen guys who were too rough with women get "beat up", basically just tapped over and over by a black belt, not physically harmed, and while talking is great and probably best, it was nice to know the coach had our backs. Any combative sport can be intimidating, but it can be extra scary as a woman coming in and not knowing if the men in the gym will respect you.
I agree with most etiquettes you’ve listed. Some gyms have bullies as instructors and they just want to hurt you and make you feel like crap cos they are a higher rank. It’s good to see not all gyms are like that.
Wow, this is an amazing bjj breakdown! Thank you!
Glad you think so. Thank you!
@@JordanTeachesJiujitsu Yes sir, you are very articulate and did an excellent job of breaking down common BJJ gym issues. I had a lot of reservations of leaving my current BJJ gym to join another, but seeing your video helped me so much. Definitely subscribing.
Good stuff as always, Jordan. Appreciate you
Thanks for the guidance. I have learned some of these the hard way because nobody told me. Newbies want to learn too.
Respecting the tap and good hygiene should be some of the first things someone learns in BJJ. It is essential to what we do and should be engrained into people from the start.
When turning my back to tie my belt, I was taught to show respect to my instructor. I don't know where the idea came from, but I don't mind doing it. Most people at my school don't do it, and now it is just a habit.
Great video as always man!
Gyms should start handing out ettiqute pamphlets when people sign up haha
Great video, answered so many of my questions I've always though about
Old Man 4 stripe Blue Belt out of Houston, Texas here. I agree with your rules.
Great video! A lot of good info thats put together really well. Wish others would do it this way also.
I agree with everything. Good video. You have a good mindset.
21 is always hilarious. I feel my meme face come out.
On the other hand I've had rolls with different people that have poor submission mechanics. Sometimes #21 makes asking if they need help with a move seem like they could get you with a crappy technique.
There's a dude i trained with for years that would pull this card. Watching people's faces when they realized,"ive been robbed ". Completely priceless..... but he also collected injuries from people that felt the need for pay back by not accepting his tap,"Card Declined".
As a white belt who’s been training for a year this is defiantly the best list on the matter I’ve seen 10/10
Great rules. At the couple of 10th planets I trained at we have a tub with an anti bacterial and anti fungal solution we step into when getting on the mat from entry or the bathroom. Also with the strict rule of no bare feet in the bathroom. And the mats are disinfected with a cleaning solution between classes. I think it's a smart standard to have. Anything to reduce the chance of getting staph, MRSA, or the lot is refreshing.
Sometimes I tap when my arm, hand or head/neck gets caught in a weird position that is hurting whatever is caught. And people stop and are like why did you tap or don’t tap to pressure and I just explain and say why, I always offer to continue from the same position but sometimes people get frustrated and don’t want to continue from that position and start over, how come? I mean I have to right to stop the roll if I am hurting.
They're dumb for getting frustrated. It's completely in your right and sensible to pause the roll briefly when something is caught or at risk.
One thing about brushing teeth is that a lot of peoples bad breath comes from their tongue. Brushing or scraping your tongue is a very good habit if you don't want to have bad breath.
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Good to know actually. I usually go with strong gum or breath mints but this is very helpful. Thank you!🤘
The dynamic of owning a gym is that it is also a business. The maintaining of the belt integrity and keeping people interested is real. Unfortunately, i think some gyms don’t realize this. There is this kinda attitude that you either have to be all in for BJJ and its not a big deal that its a business. This is just stupid. You can run an outstanding gym and an excellent business. I do think the vague belt system is just dumb and I personally want to earn my belts but I don’t like the unknown dynamics of the belt system. its really cryptic and I have seen some RUclips personalities actually brag about it. It also creates sandbaggers that stay in blue or purple too long and dominate any competitions. Really guys did you do something extraordinary by doing this? Not at all. LOVE THE CHANNEL. Best wishes from Salt Lake City Utah. Unified forever.
Agreed on all points! And thank you!
This was a great video man I love your approach
Here is a thing to add, don't just brush your teeth before training. FLOSS. The stuff that smells nasty and gets blocked between your back teeth doesn't come out with just a toothbrush. And with no flossing, it stays there and decays and smells pretty bad... Mouthwash won't cut it either, and usually water floss (waterpik) won't fully take it out half the time... Physically removing it with a string, rubbing both sides of the gap, is the only way. I actually had to tell that to a few training partners... I did take them aside, with nobody else listening, at the end of the session, and prefaced it with "I have something a bit challenging to talk about but that's only because I care that I'm making the effort to talk about it". And it went well. Now their breath doesn't stink anymore...
It's so awkward to have to do it haha. I've had to as well, way too many times than I would like.
Nice try, Mr Floss Factory Owner.
😂 you seriously told someone to floss their teeth, 😂.man I bet everyone loves you at your gym lol that's hilarious
Great video. Thanks for all the content.
Ok Jordan, I know you said not to brag about a submission, but do you think it’s ok if instead, I rip my gi open and point my fingers to the sky?
Seems reasonable to me haha
Not coaching someone though a sub is a great rule, but there's been a few times when a newish student is trying an armbar on me (I get armbarred a lot because I have bad habits with my elbow security, and have pretty good defense for after it's started) and they just get stuck on my defense I'll tell them what they need to do to finish it, e.g. pinning my head, pushing my other arm away, engaging their hips, or switching to a variant or different sub (I love/hate the razor armbar variant with the gi, or switching to a triangle) but ONLY after I'm certain that they are in fact stuck there and can't finish.
Ya man that's a good way to go about it. Nothing wrong with it, good job 🙂
With the 'dont be late', id add:
If you are late, respect the class and arrive/join quietly.
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Things like this just need to said. Nice one Jordan 👍
What do you think about the “you must only train wearing our team gi/rash guard?”
I hate it
Very enjoyable listen.
Thank you!
Great video. Can you clarify what grab fingers means? Like actually aim to grab individual fingers and manipulate them to cause discomfort or does this also include Messing with grips and getting in the way so they can join hands?
Cheers
As per tying the gi or belt. I did karate for 7 years got my black belt and the sensei instilled in us to not let the belt touch the ground as it’s a sign or disrespect and to turn and go on a knee for tying the belt. I still do it to this day to a degree but understandably it’s a different style
I have never heard the “face the wall when you tie your belt or pants” one. I don’t really understand it even for pants. It’s not like I’m dropping them, I’m just resting a drawstring.
I have had training partners start to tap just to position and it’s incredibly frustrating. If I sweep a couple guys (who are the same rank I am) and take half guard or side control they tap and say “I never get out of that”. I usually offer to work through the position with them but try wave it off and want to reset. Of course, we inevitably end up back in that position and repeat the cycle.
In my opinion, if it's that frustrating for you just roll with more experienced people. It's probably even more frustrating for them to be made uncomfortable because they tap too early. Learning to handle discomfort and tough positions is part of the journey and not everyone gets there at the same pace.
We had an open mat tonight and a female two stripe blue ran us through some triangle and mobility stuff then we had 3 rolls (there was 4 of us) at the end she took her whole Gi off! hahaha I was leaving but thinking, she is just stripping off?! She had a top on and some kind of shorts but it was a long shot from the old traditional turn away from the mat Japanese style respect stuff! I'm not bothered, as long as people don't smell bad. Nothing worse than being in someones sweaty pit, that is enough to tap for me!
100% agree with every point. Great video.
Thank you!
Im sharing this to my crew!
Thank you!
You're speaking wisdom here. Get info!
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Thank you for making this video. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Thank you for watching it!
Jeez this guy is smart. Thanks for the rules prof.
Awesome rule set! Pretty well the same rule set applies at our gym.