I have a doubt that this dialogue are real cruel king though considering this is not after life but your inner fear or burden this also shown that for some reason if you say you're feeling toxic the plants was here again which kinda doesn't make any sense as griefer didn't die nor anything
I also kinda think of concept where you fight cruel king Multiple time until his final dialogue will upgrade your ice dagger considering it as mastering the abilities
@@vVeiga5 or gain back abilities before upd considering cruel king can heal and shield himself with the dagger though it's a cool concept most likely won't happen though that would make ice storm nonexistent
@@EthanGW10 Ong like cruel kings pov is just some random dude destroying the nearby wildlife, destroying his knights, trashing his castle and destroying more knights, eradicating his most loyal and powerful soldier and then watching him walk ovef to him (the king)
@randombingusenjoyer yes but even assuming you win each time lowering cruel kings hp to zero I'm pretty sure he realized that you and he cannot die in that zone
I figured the cruel king was never evil to begin with, due to him mentioning his voices and the way he talks of trying to prevent the people he governs over from dying, but i think the reason behind his name has to be the way he's trying to "prevent" the false prophecies from coming to fruition, by freezing the lands, and misusing his power over the ice dagger, I honestly felt bad for having to fight him and i really understood where he was coming from so that definitely hit me in the feels twice as much knowing he wasn't a bad person just one caught in unfortunate circumstances.
@@Bluejaymarewhat if it was us?The voices have a red Color when anyone says something about them and I remember a lot of the npc or boss dialogues said *YOU*in a red Color but this can prob be false it just a thing I noticed
Like any leader, it's very easy to follow the horrible path that's paved with good intentions. People do things out of desperation or because they feel it's for the best. Doesn't help he had something manipulating him from the shadows.
In the discord I there was a poll for characters like the king if they should’ve brought back for demo 3, voted him because of his character development 🗣️🗣️
I thought demo 3 was nearly done, just needed some polishing. Either way, it has to go to griefer. The cruel king as a character has already met a form of closure. He stole the ice dagger because tormenting voices told him his kingdom would be destroyed in the future, and he stole the dagger to prevent said destruction. When he’s killed by the player, he re-encounters you via the Guru. Thanks to the fights, he realized that he was in the wrong and the player was trying to help save everyone. Thanks to that, the King is at peace and redeems himself by training the player. It’s a wholesome end that doesn’t need to be dragged on any further. Griefer, however… He’s apparently been “bossed around” his whole life according to him, and is left to rot in the Sacred Oak as a gross hybrid between plant and human. There’s so much we don’t know. Will he be okay? Was he really being bossed around? What happens if he even does get cured, swear vengeance or something? Come on… he needs a little more time in the spotlight.
@@Spencer_TheSpendercruel king could be coming back. The Ghostwalker could be able to revive the dead, and maybe its holder wants to torment us with previous battles... and then there might be s fight alongside cruel king that you cant be in a party for
He was my favorite npc throughout the whole game because of his sincerity to protect his people, i wish there would've been another way to take the ice dagger from him though, nontheless im glad we are on good terms. Glory to black rock!!
Something tells me this might lead to a bit more than one or two badges. Like a gradual purging of the influence Builderman exerts through the swords, possibly leading to a better ending.
he truely was the king blackrock neded i love him so much i hope in like the final fight of the game you like summon the spirits of all bosses who used each sword to fight the final boss cuz i can defenetly see his spirit saying "in the name of black rock you shall perish!" or "this is for my kingdom!"
I wonder if the prophet was that Blackrock will be destroyed. I really hope we could save BlackRock for the king, and that we'll get a new final dialogue "*Blackrock is safe now..? *.... *.... * Thanks you .. I felt at peace knowing my kingdom is safe upon your hands '
The most evil part about him was trying to kill you, but he only did it because he was convinced by the real main villain that Blackrock Kingdom would fall by your hands.
Fun fact cruel king is the guardian of the ice dagger like how someone else also is the guardian of the venomshank. Though you can argue that the ghostwalker not having a guardian is weird but thats because the ghostwalker actually never needs one since it just kills people who aren't pure and the player getting it means they count as the official guardian of the ghostwalker of course it will kill the player when they aren't pure anymore so they will have to purify themselves again. Also a story writer stated that cruel king is the guardian and that cruel king just used it without actual permission so he would definitely lose guardian title after the fight but since cruel king is dead before that he would still count as the guardian of the icedagger so uhh enjoy this information.
He fights to save his people but most people shurg it off and call him heartless and also if you click no he says "you finally understand" and "this is the only way" so he just wants to save his peo
To be fair, even before the Nirvana bit I thought Cruel King had good INTENTIONS. The guy wanted to keep his kingdom and people safe, he just kinda went about it in the wrong way.
I wish that in a future chapter, after we trigger the last dialogue with him, we unlock a way to bring him back, so he can rule over Blackrock again without the ice dagger controlling him
Ive been getting into the blocktales lore since ive played the game but heres my theory the future of the blocktales world is destroyed and theres chaos so maybe builderman or shedletsky sent us back in the past to collect all the swords and save the future thats why when we wake up in terrys bed terry says something in his dialogue about builderman, kidnapping, and time travel i think we probably told him that but thats just a theory
I saw the he will assist us dialogue for the first time, and that really convinced me that he was never meant to be evil, he just wanted good for his people Edit: i fixed something
when i was trying to get stylish badge, i started to like cruel king more because of these dialogues, block tales have such a passion with them characters wth
That would be crazy with griefer. But He still a monster but the more you kill him he became normal and saying thank you. And he want you to training with him with a normal griefer or venomshank or transform version
When talking about block tales, a lot of people talk about grinding cards or something else but little to no one talk about the lore, from what i understand there's these voices that tell the main chapter's bosses about the future, which at worst makes them go against their friends, family (like how griefier didn't care about his dad and the other civilians) this might mean that these voices are probably coming from the last boss fight ( i bet that the chapter 3 main boss will say the same thing about voices from the future) and we still don't know about "builderman" other than him being kidnapped (a "man" got "kid-napped" lol)
Yeah every final boss/any boss in general.Because they are fighting you to prove/protect someone,it was always there but people ignored the small details like dialogues.
@@MymomsaidImspecial we haven't gotten the full story of them,they are alive and have so much lore to them already,like did you know there also green and purple who were gonna be the duo with noobadoor but got replaced at end moment because of griefer?and did you know that blue is actually a girl
Actually I killed him in one attempt, but from his words it's always obvious that he just wants to protect his people for any cost. I didn't want to kill him, but there's no other option to continue the game.
he never shoulda had the 'Cruel' on his name in the first place imo 💀 literally what about him is cruel??? he cares so much ab his people and is willing to train you after you beat some sense into him
It’s because the ice dagger controlled him and made him paranoid that’s why he kept arresting people he thought they were the person the voice was talking about he realized his mistake before his death and also in our mind
Did the voices lie about the future where blackrock kingdom is being destroyed? The only reason you fight him in the first place is so he can save blackrock... man's dedicated
I mean thinking bout it again he do have a point like we literally breaking in into his castle, destroying his guard that hes cared about and ofc he would be worried since he think he are some bad guys wanted the ice dagger and will hurt his people for it. At the rate the name "cruel king" doesnt even fit for him since all what he want to do is protect his people and his kingdom
Since when he's evil bro, from chapter 1 i already know that he just want the best for his people he don't want to see the bad future for blackrock kingdom, but he do it in a bad way. Thats literally it. He was never a villain from the beginning the real villain is the "voices" first it make cruel king think he will safe the kingdom with ice dagger power and now he manipulated brad (griefer) to get venomshank for some reason and making him turn into a plant because brad want to kill us.
They all are good until "The voice" corrupt them. King and griefer, they both good but the voice is the reason make them change. We gonna fight 5 more boss of each chapter, better hope that they Don't die like the king or become a mutant plant like griefer
I thought it was obvious that cruel king wasn’t evil? Especially now that demo two is out. It shows that everybody who is getting the the sword Heights sword fights swords aren’t evil. They’re just doing it because voices are telling them to. So yea
From cold blooded to hero.... he's such a kind person
Real
I have a doubt that this dialogue are real cruel king though considering this is not after life but your inner fear or burden this also shown that for some reason if you say you're feeling toxic the plants was here again which kinda doesn't make any sense as griefer didn't die nor anything
I also kinda think of concept where you fight cruel king Multiple time until his final dialogue will upgrade your ice dagger considering it as mastering the abilities
@@zealousmugetsu8777 imagine you can learn a skill where you can use his ice stab to freeze enemies
@@vVeiga5 or gain back abilities before upd considering cruel king can heal and shield himself with the dagger though it's a cool concept most likely won't happen though that would make ice storm nonexistent
Dunno how anyone thought he was evil since every piece of dialouge from him was just pure dedication to his people.
Seriously though and the fact the protagonist just casually walks across the remains
@@EthanGW10 Ong like cruel kings pov is just some random dude destroying the nearby wildlife, destroying his knights, trashing his castle and destroying more knights, eradicating his most loyal and powerful soldier and then watching him walk ovef to him (the king)
His name is cruel king that’s prob why
Which makes me question why or how he is in called the "Cruel King" despite his quotes speak otherwise.
@@zorenmaniego5698maybe he made really bad decisions due to being sleepless always thinking about the dark future the voices told him about
Tbh it whould have been an fun detail that cruel king's name changes to "king" or "blackrock king" after you get to his good side
you onto something...
eh he was kinda cruel, there were people in prison for no reason
@@SmokeFactory well some of them actually did some crimes tbh
Is blackrock king
Idk for sure
@@alexander7435 "I was given *zero* reason for my arrest"
"are you...
just here to see ME?"
WAS THE CUTEST DIALOGUE ONGGGGGGG I LOVE HIMMM
lets acknowledge that he kills you instead of sparing you at 1 hp even during his training
Hope that your a girl
@randombingusenjoyer yes but even assuming you win each time lowering cruel kings hp to zero I'm pretty sure he realized that you and he cannot die in that zone
that dialogue was so gay-coded bro😭😭
@@forest_kinomo Y E S.
I figured the cruel king was never evil to begin with, due to him mentioning his voices and the way he talks of trying to prevent the people he governs over from dying,
but i think the reason behind his name has to be the way he's trying to "prevent" the false prophecies from coming to fruition, by freezing the lands, and misusing his power over the ice dagger,
I honestly felt bad for having to fight him and i really understood where he was coming from so that definitely hit me in the feels twice as much knowing he wasn't a bad person just one caught in unfortunate circumstances.
Same
Virgin other king:
Walks away
Chad black rock king:
I FIGHT FOR MY PEOPLE
I feel so bad for killing him. All he wanted was his people and Blackrock to be safe. At least he's helping us get stronger.
Same dude. Same...
yeah the icedagger's voices probably manipulated him,like the venomshank's voices did with griefer
@@sillygoober-kq9gi It wasn't the venomshank's voice. Brad doesn't obtain it until the final encounters so it's most likely something else
@Bluejaymare the griefer's name is Brad?
@@Bluejaymarewhat if it was us?The voices have a red Color when anyone says something about them and I remember a lot of the npc or boss dialogues said *YOU*in a red Color but this can prob be false it just a thing I noticed
I love how a roblox game has better characters development and ost than many big shot company projects nowadays
1997
WHAT A [ funny ] WORD IS [ big shot ]
[ [HYPERLINK BLOCKED] ]
A ROBLOX US A [[BIG SHOT]] THAT CANT BE [Possible]
NOW ITS YOUR CHANCE TO BE A [BIG SHOT]
still my favorite character, since demo 1 he's still the goat
@@radiationchamber3914 true
Fax
can’t agree more
Fr, his character, personality and music will always be the best in my opinion, no matter how good all next demos will be.
Yes
you're right, blackrock did hit the jackpot
The Blackrock kingdom got a W king
Their king is literally greatest king , no one can replace him cuz if does , the new king just get killed
Restless king.
Like any leader, it's very easy to follow the horrible path that's paved with good intentions. People do things out of desperation or because they feel it's for the best. Doesn't help he had something manipulating him from the shadows.
This now gives you a card that makes you able to summon Cruel King on the middle of a fight as an ally.
It would be a cool detail if his name removed the "cruel" in it when we get to his good side
In the discord I there was a poll for characters like the king if they should’ve brought back for demo 3, voted him because of his character development 🗣️🗣️
I voted terry, king and griefer
The final bosses deserve love
I thought demo 3 was nearly done, just needed some polishing.
Either way, it has to go to griefer.
The cruel king as a character has already met a form of closure. He stole the ice dagger because tormenting voices told him his kingdom would be destroyed in the future, and he stole the dagger to prevent said destruction.
When he’s killed by the player, he re-encounters you via the Guru. Thanks to the fights, he realized that he was in the wrong and the player was trying to help save everyone.
Thanks to that, the King is at peace and redeems himself by training the player.
It’s a wholesome end that doesn’t need to be dragged on any further.
Griefer, however…
He’s apparently been “bossed around” his whole life according to him, and is left to rot in the Sacred Oak as a gross hybrid between plant and human.
There’s so much we don’t know. Will he be okay? Was he really being bossed around? What happens if he even does get cured, swear vengeance or something? Come on… he needs a little more time in the spotlight.
@@Spencer_TheSpendercruel king could be coming back. The Ghostwalker could be able to revive the dead, and maybe its holder wants to torment us with previous battles... and then there might be s fight alongside cruel king that you cant be in a party for
@@Elevatorceptor the same goes for bubonic plant/griefer. I still think that if anyone was brought back, it’s gotta be him.
He was my favorite npc throughout the whole game because of his sincerity to protect his people, i wish there would've been another way to take the ice dagger from him though, nontheless im glad we are on good terms. Glory to black rock!!
Cruel King ❌
Cool King ✅
Haah get it
Ice King 🗣🔥
@@thiagoleonardo2484gunther, why did you gunt my fries
Pun intended
he's technically just a normal king with an ice cube
Something tells me this might lead to a bit more than one or two badges.
Like a gradual purging of the influence Builderman exerts through the swords, possibly leading to a better ending.
he truely was the king blackrock neded
i love him so much i hope in like the final fight of the game you like summon the spirits of all bosses who used each sword to fight the final boss cuz i can defenetly see his spirit saying "in the name of black rock you shall perish!" or "this is for my kingdom!"
I wonder if the prophet was that Blackrock will be destroyed.
I really hope we could save BlackRock for the king, and that we'll get a new final dialogue
"*Blackrock is safe now..?
*....
*....
* Thanks you .. I felt at peace knowing my kingdom is safe upon your hands '
Probably something when the game are fully release…
Which may took another 5 years or so
Didn’t campy say something about the world being saved one each sword was put back in there PLACE
these voices were probably lying
Love this character so much, might make fanart of him training the player
The most evil part about him was trying to kill you, but he only did it because he was convinced by the real main villain that Blackrock Kingdom would fall by your hands.
Fun fact cruel king is the guardian of the ice dagger like how someone else also is the guardian of the venomshank. Though you can argue that the ghostwalker not having a guardian is weird but thats because the ghostwalker actually never needs one since it just kills people who aren't pure and the player getting it means they count as the official guardian of the ghostwalker of course it will kill the player when they aren't pure anymore so they will have to purify themselves again. Also a story writer stated that cruel king is the guardian and that cruel king just used it without actual permission so he would definitely lose guardian title after the fight but since cruel king is dead before that he would still count as the guardian of the icedagger so uhh enjoy this information.
I feel bad for him
I know right?
I never though THIS would happens.
The fact that i was hating em without knowing the lore.💀
He fights to save his people but most people shurg it off and call him heartless and also if you click no he says "you finally understand" and "this is the only way" so he just wants to save his peo
To be fair, even before the Nirvana bit I thought Cruel King had good INTENTIONS.
The guy wanted to keep his kingdom and people safe, he just kinda went about it in the wrong way.
“Let’s start the training.” In battle: “You’ll never leave!” “Give up already!” “GUARDS! ARREST THEM!”
Schizo
That's the thing i don't understand.😭
what if “cruel” is just bros first name??
"Guys i have a theory"
you onto something tho
Like Nicole Watterson, her real first name is "Doctor" lol
I wish that in a future chapter, after we trigger the last dialogue with him, we unlock a way to bring him back, so he can rule over Blackrock again without the ice dagger controlling him
Ive been getting into the blocktales lore since ive played the game but heres my theory the future of the blocktales world is destroyed and theres chaos so maybe builderman or shedletsky sent us back in the past to collect all the swords and save the future thats why when we wake up in terrys bed terry says something in his dialogue about builderman, kidnapping, and time travel i think we probably told him that but thats just a theory
I saw the he will assist us dialogue for the first time, and that really convinced me that he was never meant to be evil, he just wanted good for his people
Edit: i fixed something
when i was trying to get stylish badge, i started to like cruel king more because of these dialogues, block tales have such a passion with them characters wth
Luckiest kingdom
damn i didnt know he was chill like that
Fr, i hated the guy
literally chill
@@wholetthisguyontheinternet*chills* 🤓🤓🤓
@@wholetthisguyontheinternet took me a minute before getting this 😭😭😭
CHILL ba d- *Icetea622 has taken mortal damage!* *You lost the fight/battle...*
The thing is that Cruel King got consumed by the power of the Icedagger. The same as how Griefer got consumed by the power of the Venomshank.
That would be crazy with griefer.
But He still a monster but the more you kill him he became normal and saying thank you. And he want you to training with him with a normal griefer or venomshank or transform version
Its kinda sad we only fight bubonic plant
Maybe its because griefer is still alive inside the plant body covering him?
Idk because griefer is willing to throw away his humanity side and turn into monster only to kill us but fail
@@freezaaaathey said the bubonic plant was reversible
I mean, the only thing you do see that remains of Griefer's mind in Bubonic Plant is the occasional "H3LP... M3..." that happens between actions
maybe in the next chapter they’ll show normal griefer
"with this treasure i summon 1 grip daggers sila divine king of Blackrock"
When talking about block tales, a lot of people talk about grinding cards or something else but little to no one talk about the lore, from what i understand there's these voices that tell the main chapter's bosses about the future, which at worst makes them go against their friends, family (like how griefier didn't care about his dad and the other civilians) this might mean that these voices are probably coming from the last boss fight ( i bet that the chapter 3 main boss will say the same thing about voices from the future) and we still don't know about "builderman" other than him being kidnapped (a "man" got "kid-napped" lol)
I once got him saying an overlarged GUARDS ARREST HIM while i was chatting with cruel king somehow
Beta Griefer searching for power❌
Alpha Cruel King and the masculine urge to sacrifice yourself for your country✅
griefer is likely also confused, as he can say "...?" whenever you hit him. he, however, cannot speak in that form.
he says in bubonic plant H3LP M3 and M3ST K1L3
which is the only thing he says while in bubonic plant
The voices takes advantage of the Cruel King's fear
Plot twist: the king is a (Nice) schizophrenic
Dude has the fastest character development
better and faster character development then any anime
Lol it's pretty interesting how he was'nt bad after all, and ended being our ally, nice ally.
From the start I was like..."is this guy a villain" since from my perspective he's just a king trynna help his people
I can’t even beat him in the first place 😭
Bro got the diavlo treatment from jojos but at least he dies with reason why
Nah hes one of the best characters now 😭
Ah yes
You beat him to a pulp and he learns his mistakes
"For my loyalty to Blackrock will not bend." Why do I find this line so cool
For some reason he doesn’t get insane when refighting an idiot or a group of idiots, such a sane person😊
a minor spoiler of chapter 3
He is recruitable and he also makes for a powerful summon
A cruel king, but he is working for his people
cruel king the fastest character development than any anime
This is the kind of lore i havent seen in a long time, its rlly good
I imagine being able to just spawn him from the dead to aid you with his abilities (nerfed down ofc) in battle. That would be cool
Well what do ya khow, they did it
@@player1012 holy shit i predicted the future
now i predict they bring back griefer (imagine they actually do)
doesnt the dialouge when u first fight him in story already explained that he is just trying to protect his people
yeah but his name was still "cruel king" and there wasn't that much info
@@skratch220 tbh he did imprison some innocent guy...
He caused too many brain hemorrhages for me and my friends
and now as of demo three, he can be summoned to fight along side you
I found a dialogue that hes kinda happy that we got the ice dagger for shedletsky and buildermam and wants to train us
i realised that while trying to beat him on solo hard and i knew the game was peak 🔥🔥
Yeah every final boss/any boss in general.Because they are fighting you to prove/protect someone,it was always there but people ignored the small details like dialogues.
The only boss that fought us without trying to protect someone is red and blue
@@MymomsaidImspecial we haven't gotten the full story of them,they are alive and have so much lore to them already,like did you know there also green and purple who were gonna be the duo with noobadoor but got replaced at end moment because of griefer?and did you know that blue is actually a girl
@@MymomsaidImspecial noobadoor could be a local thug/evil luchadoor but he might just be following orders
@@Omariskool99 I knew blue was a girl
@@Omariskool99 griefer hired red and blue and noobadoor to take care of shedlestsky
To be honest in the fight, the king said let them go that’s why the king is friendly
i love how he's interpreted
I think he just sees you as an intruder
yk it would be crazy if he teamed up with us to fight one of the final bosses of the game, and we let him borrow the ice dagger
I have an idea for the final chapter but it’s probably not it
Actually I killed him in one attempt, but from his words it's always obvious that he just wants to protect his people for any cost. I didn't want to kill him, but there's no other option to continue the game.
he never shoulda had the 'Cruel' on his name in the first place imo 💀 literally what about him is cruel??? he cares so much ab his people and is willing to train you after you beat some sense into him
It’s because the ice dagger controlled him and made him paranoid that’s why he kept arresting people he thought they were the person the voice was talking about he realized his mistake before his death and also in our mind
Did the voices lie about the future where blackrock kingdom is being destroyed? The only reason you fight him in the first place is so he can save blackrock... man's dedicated
if he survive ,i dont think he will survive the wrath of terry tho 💀(look what he did to the wizard dude)
I mean thinking bout it again he do have a point like we literally breaking in into his castle, destroying his guard that hes cared about and ofc he would be worried since he think he are some bad guys wanted the ice dagger and will hurt his people for it. At the rate the name "cruel king" doesnt even fit for him since all what he want to do is protect his people and his kingdom
most boss of blocktales isnt evil, you just have to get those swords on the height swords to shedletsky
Fr, cruel king and Brad were driven insane and hatred is supposed to be an emotionless entity
This explains how deept the devs can make a proganoist
A small change I would like, after he trains you, his name become “uncruel king”
How do you get to the rematch area
All that just so we can use him as a meatshield now.
It should be an option to give this guy tea, or a cookie.
I thought i was the only one who discovered it
I already kinda figured that the sword or something else was possessing him to go insane
Would be cool to see him much stronger post game like Mario and Luigi rpg games
thx bro! I was stuck in that...room......
This is why he’s my favorite character
in demo 3, he’ll actually give you a call card
I mean yeah, He does that to only protect the Blackrock Kingdom
No wonder bro is called ice king ( definitely isn't because he is a king with ice powers just like ice king)
Since when he's evil bro, from chapter 1 i already know that he just want the best for his people he don't want to see the bad future for blackrock kingdom, but he do it in a bad way. Thats literally it. He was never a villain from the beginning the real villain is the "voices" first it make cruel king think he will safe the kingdom with ice dagger power and now he manipulated brad (griefer) to get venomshank for some reason and making him turn into a plant because brad want to kill us.
Why was the only options we had was killing him?? I mean Griefer lived (barely) so why didn't the king???
They should bring back the cruel King in the story some way
There was a poll in the discord of block tales, discussing who should be returning for future chapters and cruel king was mentioned
Omg really? I heard from my brother that the ghostwalker is the next sword, maybe we can revive the ice king as a ghost to help us?@@crook_gambler
And after that in the new demo
If you defeat him 5 times
He'll give you a card to summon him mid battle
wait how is the cruel king cruel if he wants his people to be happy?
They all are good until "The voice" corrupt them. King and griefer, they both good but the voice is the reason make them change. We gonna fight 5 more boss of each chapter, better hope that they Don't die like the king or become a mutant plant like griefer
He ain't cruel king no mo. Hes caring king.
I don’t know where found him
bruh he's such a homie why did we have to kill him
he aint no "cruel king"
he's the "honorable king"
Dude the plant guy (I forgot the name, don’t blame me, it’s like 20 letters long) literally only has 2 lines of speech, which is, “..!” and “..?” 💀
I played block tales and understood what i can see villian only in mirror
I thought it was obvious that cruel king wasn’t evil? Especially now that demo two is out. It shows that everybody who is getting the the sword Heights sword fights swords aren’t evil. They’re just doing it because voices are telling them to. So yea
Also now in the future: cruel king = friend : )