Cool! I first had a Telequipment but managed to use Tektronixes at work. Eventually bought a Hameg and also a Hitachi, all analog. Now got a few oled kit ones, a Tooltop and also a Zoyi. For Xmas I want a Rigol with HDMI output.
@@PlaywithJunk Nowadays there are so many makers and most just copy each other. I am not a great fan of touchscreens. They should build them in 2 parts where the user can bring his own 4k monitor with or without touch and drive it with a mouse. The savings could be used in higher specs inputs. Rigols are a good choice for teaching where an external monitor can be watched by a good audience.
@@PlaywithJunk It is a reference to a Formula 1 race in Malaysia in 2013. It was used as a code word over the radio and it lead to a scene after finish because it was not obeyed. But of course it is meaningless when not watching Formula 1 🙂
i used to like the old fluke ScopeMeter. the optical RS232 was great for connecting the PC to it, and a few IO lines from the PC printer port you could have a small bit of ATE up and running in no time. great for a quick setup test in production where you just wanted a quick press a button and confirm the small PCB functioned correctly. Saved having to teach everyone how to use the scope. 🙂
The generator output impedance is 50 Ohms, and it assumes a load impedance of 50 Ohms for delivering 2 Vpp. The oscilloscope has a high impedance in the MOhm range and therefore measures twice the voltage indicated by the generator.
I reviewed the Tooltop the other day. It's a sweet little device, but you have to be wary of the fairly low real sample rate for non-repetitive waveforms, especially for signals with high frequency content.
I saw your video... I think the oscilloscope is useful for audio stuff and that's it. I find it more disturbing that the wave generator outputs a signal with DC. It looks like they forgot the output capacitor. Pretty dangerous when sending that signal to a DC coupled amplifier.
I’ve abstained from these simple scopes, because in the use cases that I’m likely to use them for, the common ground of the non-isolated inputs are likely to be at least annoying due to potential ground loops or possibly dangerous or destructive. Is that the “same” ground between this subsystem and the other? OTOH, one might be able to justify buying a few of them as a Redundant Array of Inexpensive Oscilloscopes to work around those scenarios.
One big difference, the old one looks much more professional while the new one is more like some cheap multimeters. I like the old electronics lab style more but i think i would not use it a lot because of its cracy complicated settings...
Thank you. Really InTeReStiNg.. The Createc is actually very COoL. I'm sure back in the day it was considered SpaceX level amazing. To be able to "see" the "un-seeable" in (almost) the palm of your hand. On both these scopes I do miss the "twisty" (analog style) RADIO KNOBS. Pressing buttons is just not as useful IMO. It was GR8T to see the "classic" one.. I had never seen that one before. Cheers from So.Ca.USA 3rd House On the Left (pls call before stopping by)
🙂 Fortunately there are only five houses in SoCalUSA. I will certainly find it... 🙂 Thanks for your comment, I first used this sc01 maybe in 1990 and it was indeed exciting for a few moments. But normally using a Tektronix CRT scope, the sc01 was diappointing. I think the company bought it for a specific test on tape drives. But for other works the resolution was just not good enough. And it was too slow.
@@PlaywithJunk Five "affordable" houses Yes. Cathode-Ray-Tube fan here. With twisty knobs for [all] "4" channels. Pure heaven. It sad to think that the soft glow of a P-X screen, much like our Sun will eventually disappear from our lives.. p.s If you do swing by you'll have to let yourself in the gate as my ankle braclet won't reach that far Cheers P.W.J.
When the Quick Reference Guide unravels part way down to the floor. 😳🤣🤣🤣
Cool! I first had a Telequipment but managed to use Tektronixes at work. Eventually bought a Hameg and also a Hitachi, all analog. Now got a few oled kit ones, a Tooltop and also a Zoyi. For Xmas I want a Rigol with HDMI output.
Oh... my Rigol has a HDMI output. Reading your comment reminded me to try it out. 🙂
@@PlaywithJunk Nowadays there are so many makers and most just copy each other. I am not a great fan of touchscreens. They should build them in 2 parts where the user can bring his own 4k monitor with or without touch and drive it with a mouse. The savings could be used in higher specs inputs. Rigols are a good choice for teaching where an external monitor can be watched by a good audience.
Yeah! I recommended my boss to buy a sc01 but he returned it some days later and got a Hameg 205.
Today we have that one Hameg, still running!
That was a good decision..! 🙂
7:42: Multi 21 Seb! Multi 21! (smashes drink bottle on table)
Sorry, what?
@@PlaywithJunk It is a reference to a Formula 1 race in Malaysia in 2013.
It was used as a code word over the radio and it lead to a scene after finish because it was not obeyed.
But of course it is meaningless when not watching Formula 1 🙂
@@Rob2 Now I understand! 🙂
Wow that old one is a beautiful beast!
Agree completely K. Ironically that was the nickname my GF gave me
i used to like the old fluke ScopeMeter. the optical RS232 was great for connecting the PC to it, and a few IO lines from the PC printer port you could have a small bit of ATE up and running in no time. great for a quick setup test in production where you just wanted a quick press a button and confirm the small PCB functioned correctly. Saved having to teach everyone how to use the scope. 🙂
The generator output impedance is 50 Ohms, and it assumes a load impedance of 50 Ohms for delivering 2 Vpp. The oscilloscope has a high impedance in the MOhm range and therefore measures twice the voltage indicated by the generator.
Yes… right. The voltage level is correct when I use a 50 Ohm terminator or when I change the output impedance to 10kOhm (max)
wow 37 years old
Back in the day I would have killed for for that old LCD scope!
I reviewed the Tooltop the other day. It's a sweet little device, but you have to be wary of the fairly low real sample rate for non-repetitive waveforms, especially for signals with high frequency content.
I saw your video... I think the oscilloscope is useful for audio stuff and that's it. I find it more disturbing that the wave generator outputs a signal with DC. It looks like they forgot the output capacitor. Pretty dangerous when sending that signal to a DC coupled amplifier.
@@PlaywithJunk I expect for low frequencies the output cap would need to be so big it would not fit in the case. :-)
@@PlaywithJunk Yes, we both found (different) weaknesses in it. That's not to say it's a bad device, it's still useful within its limitations.
I’ve abstained from these simple scopes, because in the use cases that I’m likely to use them for, the common ground of the non-isolated inputs are likely to be at least annoying due to potential ground loops or possibly dangerous or destructive. Is that the “same” ground between this subsystem and the other?
OTOH, one might be able to justify buying a few of them as a Redundant Array of Inexpensive Oscilloscopes to work around those scenarios.
What is the price of the old one compared to the new?
The old one (when I remember right) was $1000-2000 in 1987. The new is available for about $50
@@PlaywithJunk Yes, things have changed in electronics...
One big difference, the old one looks much more professional while the new one is more like some cheap multimeters. I like the old electronics lab style more but i think i would not use it a lot because of its cracy complicated settings...
The old one was also about 40 times more expensive.
Thank you. Really InTeReStiNg.. The Createc is actually very COoL. I'm sure back in the day it was considered SpaceX level amazing. To be able to "see" the "un-seeable" in (almost) the palm of your hand. On both these scopes I do miss the "twisty" (analog style) RADIO KNOBS. Pressing buttons is just not as useful IMO. It was GR8T to see the "classic" one.. I had never seen that one before. Cheers from So.Ca.USA 3rd House On the Left (pls call before stopping by)
🙂 Fortunately there are only five houses in SoCalUSA. I will certainly find it... 🙂
Thanks for your comment, I first used this sc01 maybe in 1990 and it was indeed exciting for a few moments. But normally using a Tektronix CRT scope, the sc01 was diappointing.
I think the company bought it for a specific test on tape drives. But for other works the resolution was just not good enough. And it was too slow.
@@PlaywithJunk Five "affordable" houses Yes. Cathode-Ray-Tube fan here. With twisty knobs for [all] "4" channels. Pure heaven. It sad to think that the soft glow of a P-X screen, much like our Sun will eventually disappear from our lives.. p.s If you do swing by you'll have to let yourself in the gate as my ankle braclet won't reach that far Cheers P.W.J.