DW’s DWe Drums: Two Worlds of Convertible Play, Total Innovative Control
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
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Electronic alternatives to acoustic instruments have a rocky history of success, and while decades of technological refinement have led to convincing alternatives and new ways of approaching sound, drums may be one of the most divisive. Whether it’s about form, function, or both, eDrums are as fervently championed as they are vehemently derided, yet DW saw a unique opportunity to apply their half-century of world-class expertise to devise a groundbreaking solution: DWe drums. Marking their first foray into the world of electrified rhythm, DWe drums offer an unprecedented proposition of acoustic-electric excellence, blending the physical and musical elements of acoustic shells with cutting-edge electronic control and versatility. Could it really be done? We asked our resident professor of percussion, NDV, to take the DWe drums for a spin to find out if they can truly bridge these two rhythmic worlds. Check it out!
00:00 - Playing Example
01:21 - Overview
02:00 - Marcus Ryle Interview: Part 1
04:12 - Acoustic Drum Details
06:08 - Electric Drum Details
07:45 - Marcus Ryle Interview: Part 2
09:49 - Triggers and Sensors
10:55 - Who Should Play These Drums?
11:36 - Getting Connected
13:24 - Software & Interface Connections
14:38 - DWe Control App
15:50 - Soundworks: Overview & Examples
23:07 - Marcus Ryle Interview: Part 3
24:11 - More Playing Examples
28:34 - Marcus Ryle Interview: Part 4
30:49 - Closing Thoughts
31:56 - Playing Out
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How do these acoustic-electric hybrid drums sound to you? Has DW successfully delivered a drum kit capable of both acoustic and electric styles? Sound off in the comments, then head over to Sweetwater for a detailed look at the complete array of DW’s cutting-edge DWe drums 👉 sweetwater.sjv.io/DW_DWe_Drums
Magnifico.🌡️🌡️🌡️🌡️🌡️🌡️
How do they sound? ……. TOO EXPENSIVE, YA JUST LOST 75% of your audience. And church’s especially don’t have that kinda cash laying around. Kits should be priced at 3-5k tops!!! Great video tho…..
I think these sound excellent, but, are way out of affordable range for average/everyday drummer.
Does the snare sense wire tightness or did Nick just barely have the throw off on. Cuz the snare sounded terrible through this whole video
I’m wondering if it possible to produce 2 sounds simultaneously. I mean cross-stick and head/rim click sound. Still not clear. Usually, with electrical drums one sound mutes the other, making impossible to play jazz kind of stuff in the right way.
So here we have it: The out-of-reach price of Roland meets the out-of-touch price of DW.
Ha!! Come on it’s only 11Gs man. lol
When worlds collide 😂
DW is owned by roland now so no shocker here.
Sweet ! Now to sell one of my kidneys and this kit is mine….💩
At least it brings the hardware lol and cymbals.
Looks and sounds amazing, I wished you'd also showed how they sound in the room to someone without headphones (AKA how loud/quiet they actually are)
played one in Forks and the mesh heads are as you’d expect, think Remo silentstroke. The cymbals are definitely louder than traditional rubber pads but not completely unbearable. The total volume produced acoustically is like playing on a xymox practice pad, significantly quieter than an actual drum but you still hear the stick volume if that makes sense
Oh well, I was hoping to have the acoustic drums while also having a trigger simultaneously. 🤷🏽♂️ I don’t want to just trigger drum sounds
@@Pericles777 if i’m not mistaken, i think you may still be able to throw regular heads on it and keep the triggers running? that’s not something i can answer confidently but don’t see why you couldn’t lol
30 minutes and they forget to include this which is probably the primary reason why someone would want to get an electric drum set 🙄
Stop making sense!! You should feel privileged for just the chance to pay the GDP of a small country for these babies.
Im actually glad they did this because i feel like the competition will help continue to push electric drums to a better level.
absolutely
Yamaha. And of course there's would be 10 to 12 Grand.
The cymbals STILL sound digital, especially the choke. That said it sounds miles better than the Roland kits and the wireless connectivity is amazing, I might need to buy these so I can use them with my bands, no mics to wire except for my vocal mic. Huge win.
Thanks to DW and Roland technology for the development of interesting tools for a percussionist with a new concept. We have been imagining many years of disassociating electronic and acoustic drums. Triggers with a sound controller and acoustic drums are not new. What's new is this wireless system. The software. The playability. It gives you more choices at your drumsticks. Innovation since its inception DW and Roland have hit the sweet spot.
what an amazing drum set, absolutely mind blowing
This technology is going to change the game. This is the future of drums in my opinion. They have done all the work for you. 2 kits in 1. I can’t imagine how much testing went into this WOW The cymbals sound great and the drums sound beautiful . I have played DW since 2004 and I surly will be looking into this kit. It’s is amazing for sure.
Loved your presentation and review of this sublime kit!
This looks great! A little pricey for me, but for the person with the means, this looks like a great gigging kit! Congratulations DW! I have heard the murmurs for years about DW working on an ekit, well they came through with a beast!
How do you know price? How much? I saw see it nowhere. Please … a link on it.
Who would wanna gig with a kit that costs this much, though? I’d be terrified to bring these out of the house.
@@unclerhombus Good point, but for the person who is in the habit of gigging and already takes great care of their drums, this kit is a boon and would make that process much easier.
Professionals already gig with kits this expernsive. Some of the DW acoustic kits are as pricey and people gig with them.
I wonder if Nick would tour with this? That's the real verdict. This will revolutionize electronic drumming in my opinion. No module needed, total accessibility to any program. Wow. And cymbals that sound good!!!!!!
I was hoping he would have done what I call the “machine gun sound test” on the snare.
This is absolutely blowing my mind. AMAZING PRODUCT.
Man…I’ve had this DWe set for yearsssssssssss! 😂 I converted my exotic collectors series kit into an E kit and played with 2Box and Pearl Mimic pro drum modules with Jobeky metal cymbals all around. Good stuff man! The wireless is a game changer no doubt. It’ll take 5 years or so to drop in price, but this is amazing stuff right here man. And the fact that it has round robin nice sounding drum samples with multiple velocities with no machine gunning snares etc…is fantastic.
So you have tried or used the software? What is round robin? Really, I've never heard of that before but I'll probably google it faster then getting a response to this question.
@@JoseMTamez the 2Box module and Pearl mimic pro modules have their software built in. The mimic pro actually uses SS5 slate digital drums. I’ve used Evil drums VST software on my Mac and that was fantastic too. Quite the learning curve. “Round robin” is a term used to describe drum samples that are recorded multiple times at different velocities when hit by the stick, there’s upwards of 250 samples of high quality drum samples so when you hit the drum, it doesn’t play the same drum sample 2,3 times in a row. That’s what causes machine gunning snares where it doesn’t sound natural. When you hit a soft hit, it will play a real life soft hit when it was recorded. Back 20 years ago, they’d use one sample over and over and just lower the volume of the samples for “soft hits”. Round robin describes the smoothness of the drum samples. Not cheap sounding same snare sound over and over.
How do you individual line out to front of house
As usual fantastic job Nick!
Beautiful kit. You look so happy!
very cool kit and technology. Of course I knew it was going to be expensive, but I wouldn't expect much else from a DW and Roland style Collab.
WOOOOW! I was honestly pretty skeptical when I first heard about DW going electronic. This is remarkable! The snare wire throw being functional alone is mind blowing.
I’m here for Nick’s playing:)
So when you play the kit in an apartment how noisy are they? The heads are probably quiet, but the cymbals a metal. Are neighbors going to hear the noise and complain?
Cymbals are loud, like hitting sticks on a table surface.
When i was in DW headquarters recently I was told that there was no need to remove the trigger when going acoustic. The only reason why you would want to remove it is because you overtones since the trigger will the dampen the drumhead a bit.
Amazing work by DW and that you can use it as an acoustic kit, outrageous.
Congratulations! Looks fantastic!
Increíble bateria! Dw siempre innovando! 🎉
Amazing Nick. Thanks for this insight. Can you comment on what the actual kit (triggers / metallic cymbals) sound like when the volume is turned to zero? ie are they loud in the room with the stick noise etc
That would've been nice to know, eh?
@@ShinyShinyBlack I've seen 3 reviews now of this kit and nobody has mentioned it! Makes me wonder if it's an issue and they've been encouraged not to mention it? I'd love a top-top-top end kit in my home studio for high level session guys, but I just can't risk noise transmission for my neighbours, so this is a KEY issue for me.
@@splodge9 Justin at 65 Drums demos the cymbals' acoustic noise level.
PROS: Easily a "convertible drum set." • Same sounds in all environments(with minor ambience adjustments). • Perform at full velocity in any situation. • FSR sensors DO make a great difference in feel with pressure(muting heads/pushing IN on heads). CONS: MUST have computer to run in all digital situations. • Have to rely on that computer for "stability." • Have to have the means to send all individual channels to FOH sound if he/she wants control out-front...and THEY ALWAYS DO! ;) • Batteries! • Triggers DO go bad. • Heavy hitters will realize that it DOES TAKE FINESSE to get these drums to respond correctly! • Snare drum and Cymbals STILL don't seem perfect...and most-likely never will. BONUS: The EASE of removing/installing the innards! WOW!
Unless they address the lack of individual Outs, it's a no go for the majority of Live Drumming. None-the-less, a very cool kit.
@@iplaywithsticks6194 Regarding outputs: I guess that would depend on what interface you might be using. The software/mixer section shows aux/bus and sends at 20:50
Setup time is reduced and I sound exactly how I want during a performance every time...priceless. DW, you have outdone yourself!!!!
Nick, you have the greatest job in the world. Looks like you really enjoy yourself. Those drums are amazing!
So sick!! I would love to have one of these one day
Is there any redundancy outside of the 3.5” midi if the main computer goes down? Or a way to quickly swap in a dead trigger? Both issues I’ve dealt with touring on v-drums
The first question I have is how loud are these volume wise just hitting them and also when hitting the rimshot on the snare? There’s a reason every electronic kit has rubber rims etc. but that’s just a minor nitpick.
Other than that it's amazing tech even though I’ll never have the budget to afford them.
Couple questions:
1. Can you buy and use sound works with other electric kits?
2. If you already own a DW Kit can you buy the sensors and cymbals to retrofit the kit you already have?
1. Yes 2. They haven't announced anything about this yet but I doubt it
I’ve been waiting to see this happen… Finally!
I may have missed it but is there a way to integrate these cymbals with other Roland kits? Looked like there was a similar connection underneath the cymbal
Fantástico, DW é um sonho acústico e agora também eletrônico!
Having played on this kit, the wireless feature is top-notch quality, but the symbols really bring down the experience. They have the feel of playing on top of a plastic box. I’d rather stick with the roland rubber cymbals
I figured that's was 10000% the case, despite trying to look like cymbals. They probably spent more time on how they look, the overhead shots look amazing,just like real,brand new shining cymbals. I wondered if they where plastic, or possibly like a sheet of metal equivalent to really cheap begginer kits from long long ago. As they wouldn't be heavy,but can still give you that feeling of definition on stuff like the ride.whereas rubber and plastic or wood are always gonna feel....not like a metal cymbals does
Reminds me of those Hart edrum cymbals I used to see advertised in the back of modern drummer mags back in the day
I posted a different comment that was geared derogatory towards live use but since have discovered that the roland td50x has a software update that allows us to use the module with this kit via 1 didgital cable connection from this kits didgital hub with out the need of a laptop giving all the line outs needed to use this kit live while also allowing us to use the roland digital hats and ride along with the crashes if we want now I feel they just need to redo the td50x module to have 4 digital inputs instead of 3 so we could also use the digital snare and they should do some cross business with the folks over at sd3 to implement the sd3 tones into the module the way pearl mimic uses slate or even the new elesis prime having software based tones
Amazing! Love this! Electronic drums on stage always seemed unprofessional to me. This is the answer
those are amazing sounding.
I will be adding this set to my arsenal real soon!!!
This is great. Looking forward to seeing where this technology will go in the future.
I think this kit is amazing, I am hoping they’ll release this as a retrofit kit for existing dw collectors owners as I don’t need another dw shell pack. It’s nice that this kit can be used as an acoustic kit, makes the price a little more acceptable. It’s a top end kit but also a top end e kit, so 2 for the price of one. Oh and finally it sounds closer to a real kit than anything roland has ever released, they always sound like Roland drums. I can spot the sound a mile off.
Yep.. same here.. these things are pricey
EFNOTE PRO sounds and playability smoke this. All samples and no modeling. The Field cymbals feel like drinking on a countertop, they have no give at all and are super loud. The snare throw off is awesome, but honestly it just doesn’t feel good to play on and for a VST, it sounds alright but not great. EFNOTE is eating DWe’s lunch by actually doing things different. Roland buying DW, buying Versatrigger, using Field Cymbals sounds like it’s radical but it’s not. It’s just corporatism and a ton of resources to get it into the market. After giving DW close to 30K of my money over the years, there just no way I’d drop money on this.
Great, I'm gonna just sell my house to buy this kit, thanks DW!
Out of a lot of peoples price ranges, but I am glad the technology for edrums is finally being pushed forward. 😅 Lets see what this opens up down the line.
This is probably the best electronic kit. I’ve heard this far when you play fills across the snare and toms, they don’t sound like static. But unfortunately, with the state of the economy and the cost of living crisis, I doubt very much if anybody can afford these units.
LOL for $16,000 (or whatever it will cost) it freaken BETTER be the best.
@@Bpm121 In the same performance category, macs are priced competitively with their windows contemporaries.
There's no COL 'crisis', knock it off with that stuff
Very very nice DW!!!
This is so cool!
I LOVE THIS!!!
I would totally actually play this kit with the BD completely acoustic, and the snare completely acoustic, with acoustic cymbals!
THEN I would use the internal triggers for the toms, and run a second floor tom, and another small tom w, an Aux snare!
for those drums I would keep the internal triggers IN but swap out the heads for real heads, and then I would go electric on the aux snare, second floor tom, and then finally the small tom!!
I would use those drums to give me LOADS upon LOADS of different drums/hand percussion/orchestral percussion/sfx and of course samples and stuff!!!
I was skeptical on having a battery to worry about in each drum, but after it was explained on how long they last, how easy they are to change and how the software tells you the battery life that is left, it seems like they have made it basically worry free.
Wonder if there is any hot spotting since they us a single sensor for the middle of the Tom’s?
Sounds and looks amazing
Kábelek nélkül,imádnám 💙
This is a pretty incredible looking kit with amazing tech! Hopefully in future years we'll see the price come down a bit.
Very VERY interesting indeed! I just got Roland VAD’s this year and enjoying the heck out of them! Wireless is the game changer though……..
This is great!
Mind blown!
Nick you are a monster on Drums. No doubt about it!!!
so revolutionary !!!! ( it's about time !!!!! )
If I ever have a question about musical instruments, the last person on earth I would talk to is a 'sales engineer'. Who ever made that term up must think all customers are idiots.
This is amazing .. I have a dw collectors series drum kit , can I connect this wireless system to it ? Will it be available without the drums ?
Nice color finish.
I'm a DW fan, and have a tremendous amount of gear invested from DW, and I have a full Roland kit with lots of addons, but there's ZERO chance I'll pay 10k+ for that.
Will the trigger system be made available for purchase separately? Without have to buy a whole other acoustic kit?
@sweetwater Can you use 3rd party drum libraries for the sounds from something such as GGD? Also can you output each individual drum to a daw or to an interface or say DVS to get each individual item or a mix of items into a mixer for live applications?
I love nick. He’s awesome at these drum videos.
That wireless business speaks volumes to me. I want the wireless baskets and receiver to be sold separately.
Acoustic 5 piece kit: 7 cables max during setup. Mics for each drum, Overheads.
My 5 piece eKit: 18 cables. Cymbals, direct outs. Figure a minute per cable setup and tear down....
Someone please let me know if you are able to TUNE or adjust the sound of each independent instrument
Great hardware. Still hearing the machine gun repetitive effects on the floor Tom, snare and especially the hi-hats.
These edrums are perfection! Take my money!
Mindblowing🤟🏻🤯
This is my very first E-kit, I’ve been an acoustic drummer for over 40 years. I needed something quieter, as my neighbors hate me 😜 Plus I want to be able to record at home without buying a bunch of microphones. I was eyeballing the Alesis Strike Pro SE for over a year until I saw this video that Nick/Sweetwater put out. No cords? for an E kit? That’s why I was 50/50 on the Alesis and having a bunch of cables
This is great stuff for electronic drums as a whole. Roland is definitely taking notes on this one, so cheers to DW for pushing the envelope, as always.
Now, it would've been great if they came with a separate pair of hoops that you can put on your drumheads and replace the entire hoop with a pre-tuned drumhead that you can just swap with the mesh instead of having to remove all the lugs and tune the drums each time you want to go acoustic. Other than that, looks pretty good!
DW is owned by Roland so have been heavily involved for sure
Sounds 1000 times better then any other brand.. Wow ❤❤❤❤love it
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Did you use Luna because of the low-latency you get from UAD hardware? Still haven’t seen any extensive testing on how this VST would perform in large record sessions
I might have missed it, but I didn't see anything related to tuning? Do we tune the toms for example the way we do, or we do it through software?
tension can be adjusted separately from the pitch which is adjusted in the software
@sweetwater is there a package available that only allows me to buy the triggers inside, and I can place on my own dw acoustic shells? Also, the dwe cymbals with the processor? Is that a possibility? If so, would you please be able to provide a link? Thanks!
Hey, tomeleefan. The triggers themselves are not available as of yet. And the cymbals will need the drum link hub by DW which is currently only available when you purchase the kit.
I hope this helps.
Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Very cool, but I'll stick with my acoustic kit and roland td27kv. What I like with the roland td27 pads is being able to fit them in my sonor set up
I’m in love 🥁❤🥁❤🥁❤
Love the technology. It'd be nice to see and learn how we can use this with other drum modules. In live a situation, I'd want to use individual drum, overhead, and direct outs to the FOH, not just Left/Right. So would love to know how to use it with the TD50X or other modules. Or, can we use other hardware for direct outs?
I think you can use a bigger interface that isnt the DW one.
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man if these things weren't $9000+ I would totally get a set. These things sound so good. E-drums have come so far.
I like the wireless idea really very much. Goodbye cable mess and ruined looks. Let‘s see how this will work in practice.
Hi, when will they sell just the triggers ? I have drums already....
I’m using the TD50x, DW Performance series kit with mesh heads, Roland triggers on every head, three Roland bar triggers and Field Cymbals. Lots of cables! I do run the outs on the TD50x to a DI and then to a snake for the sound tech. These Roland cymbals seem to be copies of the Field cymbals.
Nice! TD50X has balanced outs so no D.I needed though.
True. The DI addition to the rack I use with the TD50x is more for the venue sound tech. It was his suggestion. He can easily hook up the snake to his on the stage and we’re ready in a few minutes.
What do they sound like in the room (no mics)?
Curious if there are plans for a 16 inch drum for a 6 pc set?
Nick D'Virgilio is one of the best drum salesmen! Oh, and great drummer! If only I could add the sensors to my existing DW set!
Im not a drummer, but, this set looks B. E. A. --UTIFUL!
Nick, I also use Luna. How do the drums show up in Luna? Is it easy to create tracks as usual for remote recording?
Hey, Neil. Thanks so much for your interest. It will show up through the plugin that comes with the DWe kit. It’s super easy to create that track within Luna.
Jason Thiele, Senior Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1391, jason_thiele@sweetwater.com
Very impressed with the DWe kit! I'm curious on how intricate the cymbals are. Can you make swells or do light cymbal work? Also, is this kit and/or the DW software compatible with Superior Drummer 3?
Hello, Bradley! The cymbals on the DWe are dynamic and responsive. Like any other e-drum kit, you will need to spend some time getting the velocity curves dialed in to your playing style. More on this here:
ruclips.net/video/_pAR2LDh7fA/видео.html
This kit does still output MIDI data, so it can indeed integrate with third party drum VSTs.
Thanks for the interest!
Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
Yes, I've heard that it compatible and can be used with other software or drum module.
Great for Church that doesn’t want the acoustic drums and still get a great looking and sounding kit, if they can afford it.
Wow! Those are awesome. I wonder if there'll ever be a kit to convert my current DW drums to these?
Great piece of hardware. Question, how do you present individual channels to a digital console for FOH? I mean once the drummer is happy with what's coming out of the DW software, the live mixing engineer may want the individual channels to remix for FOH. I only see a left/right output from audio interface.
Hey there! With the new DWe kits, they only provide a stereo output on the DW module itself. If you’re wanting to send a multi-track mix to FOH, you’ll want to use a separate audio interface to run out of the computer. With this, you’ll be able to access individual tracks within the DW software and send those out to the PA.
Feel free to reach out with any other questions!
Nick Pasquino, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3230, nick_pasquino@sweetwater.com
of course it is a genus invention. And if it works right under live situation it is probably the future of electronic drums! BUT, i don't need a giant acoustic high end drum set for about 6 K to play electronic, i NEED to save space on smaller stages. So, hopefully, they offer it with the DW frequent flyer, or sell just the electronic to built it in an existing small drum set. Then i would buy it!
Hey Nick, will DW offer a kit version to retrofit into my current acoustic set?
This is absolutely WILD!
drum innovation for the thunder amazing .✌✌✌
Any plans for position sensing on the toms?
Great tech! But what happens when two drummers with this kit at the same stage, or some other close venue or studio has this kit on and playing at the same time? Hope that pairing system has this covered.
These are on the absolute cutting edge. Now I just need ti find a spare $10,000 lying around.
Yeah this is amazing, seeing it costs 11K hurts. Just hurts man.😢
My question is can you change the pitch of the drums if you want to and specifically individually?
yes, everything is adjustable separately from the head tension