That's what everyone thought, we are still controlled by Europe to an extent, like human rights laws and not being able to control our borders because of European high courts, while immigration spirals out of control.
The NHS gets THREE TIMES the £350,000,000 stated on the bus extra since Brexit. However, it has to treat around 2,300,000 extra people since 2016, with another 1,000,000 expected this year alone. All of whom have full access to NHS services on arrival, regardless of the fact that they will have contributed nothing.
The corrput governemnt and politicians have lined their pockets with the cash and are intentionaly destroying the NHS to privatise it .....its all planned .
Im not even waiting. Ive been told, as long as I can walk 100m unaided and Im not incontinent.. Im not getting the spine operation to improve my quality of life. So I have to wait until my back finally give way and its too late before the NHS will do anything. I approached a private healthcare provider... They will not insure me as I have a pre existing condition. They would have to fix that first before I would be considered for insurance. The price they quoted to fix me.... Around £80,000
I can relate, I have atrophy in my legs and walk like a drunkard when i'm sober but because i'm in no pain the Doctor isn't bothered and the Jobcentre won't support me they just told me to get a job, I guess they won't be satisfied until I collapse!
@@Gambit771 I wouldn't mind if I actually drank alcohol and this was the reason for this, but not touching alcohol and still walking like this is worrying. And I developed my stride over many years to walk cool and now it's all gone.
NHS deliberately underfunded by a political party that has been in power for 14 years and believes private health care is the way. No surprise the NHS is in a bad way when it's custodians that hold the purse strings don't believe in it and who's donors benefit from every step to privatization.
As a premature baby who is alive because of the NHS, as someone who had a huge hole in my diaphragm that was causing me to vomit for twelve hours a day, operated on and vastly improved by the NHS, I am so greatful for it. Solo greatful I don't live in US where people are given debts. Just wish a government who prioritised caring and helping people as opposed to cutting back on all public services until they are on their knees.
At my most recent GP appointment I was told by the practice (that I have been at almost all my life) that they had no record of me having asthma - I have had asthma since childhood, been in that GP practice on several occasions because of it and got my asthma inhaler prescriptions from there. When they expired I was struggling with breathing, pressure in my chest, feeling scared of having a life-ending attack but couldn’t get inhalers for months because I had to be referred to a specialist to be diagnosed for a condition I already had been diagnosed with. How tf does that even happen? How do years of records and prescriptions just disappear?
I had that happen to not only all of my medical conditions (I have several) but also my penicillin allergy! This happened when I moved GP surgery. I had to essentially get re-diagnosed with everything, and they almost prescribed me penicillin because they had NO record of me having any allergies until I informed them. So dangerous.
I've had the same with long-standing allergies,past treatments, and conditions. The surgery explanation ? "Oh, our medical records only go back 5 years when they were digitised." It's being deliberately dismantled and streamlined ripe for private Corp to come in and cream some profit from it.
Just come to a 3rd World Country ( so called and ridiculed by " Big Highly developed" nations) like India. You can walk into an OP of a hospital and request a consultation with a Pulmonologist ( Chest Specialist). You can get it done in 1-3 hours for less than 10 USD. You can get your relevant tests done in another 2- 4 hours. No need of referral, no need of Appointment and therefore, No Disappointment. So who has really " Developed" in the medical field at least ..!?. If you need any help, contact me.
Yip I had to use all my savings to pay for a joint replacement privately after waiting two years on the NHS waiting list in terrible pain. It made me both sad and annoyed after having worked as a nurse in the NHS for 40 years. I was lucky I had some savings and not a cancer, chronic diagnosis my heart goes out to those people and their families. The NHS is completely mismanaged locally and nationally getting worse as the years have progressed and its not all about money, the staff have known that for a long time now but no one ever listens to clinicians, now the public are suffering, the covid excuse is wearing very thin!
For more than two years my GP surgery denied me a referral for surgery because they were unable to gather my records from previous surgeries. Even after a letter of recommendation for urgent referral from a hospital I was admitted to following an infection going septic, the surgery would not refer me. Having had a young friend die the previous year from sepsis, I was afraid and felt forced to go private, which coupled with months signed off work each year due to chronic infections, devastated me financially and destroyed my relationship with my former employer. All this over a 30 minute surgery. No such thing as free health care in the UK anymore.
Over 5 years ago i was waiting for a left knee replacement now over 5 years latter i require 2 knee 2 hip replacements where is my quality of life ? The NHS are a disgrace if i had MP's money i would go private but on a pension after paying in for over 50 years. Dreadful
My heart was hurting watching this. We are all human & behind each health condition is a person who others care about & perhaps rely on tremendously. People are not just statistics & this is exactly the way the NHS is operating at the moment. They don’t see the human aspect, they see just another number. Posted with love & prayers from a single parent with two beautiful daughters who need me very much whilst I struggle with 3 separate health conditions & I’m on 3 different specialists waiting lists & have been for years while my heart is quietly failing. Welcome to 2024 folks…..the new world where only the rich are entitled to healthcare.
I’m also on the waiting list. Have been waiting for an appointment date for 7 months already and recently was told that have to wait 6 months more. The irony is that I work for NHS as a Biomedical Scientist yet feeling let down by the organisation I work in.
I came to UK 18 years ago, and honestly I can say that the quality of care just rolled down the hill. I can' t imagine how it can be any worse than it already is. Maybe NHS will disappear completely in future...
To be fair this is how it was 40 years ago. I had an accident back then and injured my leg. Went to A&E and they sent me home without treatment. Told me to rest it. Two weeks of pain later I went back. I had a fractured tibia and my fibula was in 4 pieces. Also, the ligaments that attach my foot to my leg were separated. Literally torn apart. Took 15 hours of surgery, and 3 screws, to repair and 2 years to heal. Other occasion I dropped a weight on my foot at the gym. Same thing. A&E sent me home. Went back a week later and X rays revealed 4 broken toes. Incompetence in the NHS is not a new thing
i was surprised when i got sent home with a broken collar bone. i got seen the next day but i didn't even think people would get sent home at all! with a broken bone. naive i was i guess.
Horrific. My friend's husband and son died. I noticed her limping at the funeral. She'd fallen and hurt her foot. Sent home. 'No nothing'. Within a couple of years, she was crippled. Tested. Broken bones in her foot. Grrr.
As a French, I feel like my country and the UK should partner for sharing medical ressources on some specific cases. People should never wait for medical treatment, especially for cancer! When I see a fellow Brit who can't get proper care on time, I just want to say: Book your Eurostar tickets and come to France for a week or two, our healthcare system is not performing well here too but things that still work, we'll have them work for you
God loves you, He died so you could be free from all your sins, through the pain ask God for strength let Him guide, He has a plan for you don't end it now. He is with you
Heartless government When weapons and wars come before People and the NHS Don't vote Labour or Conservative What happend to the money that was paid to be in the EU Was supposed to go to NHS
These people should be able to sue the government. It is disgusting what this country is going through and politicians keep gaslighting us about the state of the NHS.
Don’t expect anything else from the BBC, they sold out a long time ago & are in the Tory pockets. The huge salaries that presenters like Jeremy Vine get are a disgrace, plus in recent times, he came out with appalling, unqualified rubbish about disabled people claiming sickness benefits😢 I gave up the TV licence/tax 4-5 years ago, pay for Netflix & watch catch up only. I will never go back to the licence BBC😢
fixing is a long way to go as long as private practice is prioritised in NHS hospitals, they need to be separated from NHS hospitals workforce and the private practice doctors have to be a separate pool of doctors rather than the NHS consultants. Many middle grade doctors are not being developed into specialists by the existing consultants, there is a shortage of specialists artificially and continuously created in the NHS system by the existing consultants. Urgent overhaul is necessary to clean up this private practice mess in the NHS hospitals to improve the patient waiting time lists.
In Australia, many doctors practise in the public hospitals and also privately. It doesn't present a problem and the public and private sectors work cooperatively. This isn't a problem with private practice. The problem is that the public side of the equation is too big in Britain. You need a balance of public and private.
When did Labour let in 6 million? They haven't been in government for 14 years😂 The Conservative government allowed 2.3 million legal immigrants in just the last 2 years which is fine because legal immigrants have to be qualified under the points system, so they pay taxes which contribute to supporting the NHS and probably a pro rata number of those immigrants are Doctors or Nurses. So what's your problem other than being an ignorant racist?
@@Itoshimi Amazing false equivalence argument. I heard the Sioux had a fantastic free healthcare system but the damn colonials destroyed it. You really are dumb, mate.
Turbo cancers, excess deaths- wonder if there is a link to the Covid Vaccine that folks were bullied into getting? Particularly as Pyzer has apologised for putting a faulty vaccine on the market & Astra Zenica was no longer available for 'reasons' related to heart problems. Just asking questions @Channel4
Indeed. The Australian Journal of General Practice this month: "Recipients of two or more injections of the mRNA vaccines display a class switch to IgG4 antibodies. Abnormally high levels of IgG4 might cause autoimmune diseases, promote cancer growth, autoimmune myocarditis and other IgG 4-related diseases (IgG4-RD) in susceptible individuals." There has been virtually NO investigative journalism over any aspect of what was inflicted on people in 2020 and beyond.
@@Zen-rd9np Do your own research & you'll see for yourself. However, just to help you with your awakening, I'd start with our own ONS data for the last 3 years before they changed the way the do the Maths. Also cos I'm good like that see what's happening in Australia & their data & excess deaths. Plus check out research papers out of Israel. Happy reading & learning.
I honestly think turkey has better health care, lol. Imagine a first world country can't even get proper health care. After this election we can't leave the torries ever get back in number 10.
Oh ffs it's not the Tories who have destroyed the NHS. Well not in the way you think. Yes the Tories are utterly awful and deserve to be destroyed at the next election but one thing you cannot accuse them of is not giving the NHS enough money. If the NHS was a country it would be the 42nd best economy on earth. It is the 5th biggest employer on the planet. Not the country, the entire planet! The problems with the NHS are entirely down to the NHS itself. Funding for the NHS has risen massively since the Tories took charge but it has got worse. Why? A number of reasons and yes the Tories can be blamed for that but truthfully all the Tories did was carry on Labour policies. Plus shutting it down for what essentially was a slightly worse version of the flu really didn't help.
@@Zen-rd9np Yeah, it really is. Part of the reason the NHS is in the state it is in right now is due to Labour and it's disastrous PPI policy which saddled the NHS with eye watering debt they are struggling to service. And I take it you weren't around in the 70s either.
i am moving to usa soon, the funniest part is NHS payments at average salary is about 4x what very good health insurance in USA costs... and in the uk, you can't even opt out... :\ i have graves disease for 15 years untreated... and yet within a few weeks of arriving in usa i will be straight onto treatment, you are treated as a customer in USA, because you are one. unlike the NHS, you are treated like a scrounger...
It seems that nothing changes in the NHS, where people die every week due to the long waiting list for surgeries and people who is in ongoing treatment, (as cancer patients etc) where sometimes they tell you not to call and have asked patients to avoid emergency services unless their condition is life-threatening.
Diagnostics including mere Ultrasound has a 3 month wait in most " Insurance run" health systems in several western countries. In so called under rated and ridiculed " 3rd world nations" you can just walk into any umpteen diagnostic centres and request an ultrasound and you get it in one hour with report. No waits. Only CT, MRI need a prescription. That can be done in 6 hrs. Likewise most Lab tests you can get in 2-6 hrs. Looking like that, one has to admit that " Medical Insurance " policy run medical system is too very primitive.
Too many people living on other people- or benefits. Too many elderly people stuck in hospital. Low pay for care workers hence less staff. Too many people out of work and not contributing to the system
@@sweetygirl165 Another person amoung millions who cherry pick theirfacts n order to create a more comfortable world veiw that also fits with their friends/social media profile. It is true that many legal immigrants to your country work in the NHS, and do a great job too. These people are quite different to those persons who enter the UK by force, and having disposed of their ID deliberately. Try facts even if you dont like them. The NHS depends on tax. Tax comes from the overall sucess of the UK in many ways, and less waste, and with billions a year spent on migrants, and when they have families, demand their rights, perhaps engage in crime...time to face reality and with a war with Russia too. The UK is a money pit too.
im willing to change career and become doctor if they made course fees cheaper or gave grants. they dont even pay doctors well and theyre lacking hospitals and beds.
Buy yourself health insurance or save money to go private because the nhs is on its knees. Hardly any midwives either so more home births- phone the doctors tomorrow and see what they do- they’ll send you home with condoms and contraception. I wouldn’t bother expecting anything from the nhs sorry hun. Save save save save save your money. You don’t need a weekend away- you need your health. You can’t stop cancer or get any treatment but with health insurance you’ll get some help. I’ve been in a coma life support fed via a tube in my stomach and can’t get any help from social services or jobcentre etc etc etc. when your in hospital you don’t earn a penny but if you have health insurance they cover everything and pay you for being in hospital too. Start work as soon as you can, go to uni and get rich but you’ll never service cancer. Best thing to do is save all your money- every penny and move to Australia or New Zealand. Uni in New Zealand is absolutely FREE!!!! Hardly no crime in New Zealand either. Don’t stay in the Uk- your just a slave here. Save every penny and move. If you can. If not don’t be a care worker EVER!!!!
With the way things are going, just go private - if you do it from the start and keep it as a necessity rather than a luxury I feel this is genuinely your best option. Going private means having insurance BEFORE you're ill so that your payments are partially/fully covered. Going private after your ill will just mean you'll create a payment plan to afford the surgery, which will be more than you pay for your insurance. Shame you'll still have to pay tax for the NHS for the government to make no changes to it :) I'm saving to move Australia lol seems financially possible to survive out there.
@@gangstaliam8876What a load of rubbish. Going private just means skipping the queue, and you still need to use NHS services as a private patient. The only way to fix the NHS is to kick out the private firms that leech away the funding and make the rich pay their fair share of tax.
Best advice I can think of is to be responsible for your own wellbeing. Now and in the future. Healthy eating. Being very active, etc. When we are young, we feel fit and healthy, and never anticipate being unwell. The choices we make each day will show up for good or for bad way down the road. I knew a district nurse who told me her fittest clients were aged 75 -100 years old. They just had minimal age related issues. She had concerns about the 50 - 75 group. But the 25 - 50 were deeply concerning. Also, stay fit mentally as well. Take care - great care.
Instead of figuring out that the reason why this is happening is because men at the top want private healthcare as it makes them more money, you blame the immigrants who just want to live in peace.
From diagnosis to having treatment, my friend has waited….4 weeks! My mother didn’t wait at all, they brought nurses into her the same week. Sadly mother had left it too long to get a diagnosis so it was well advanced at that stage. Despite our pleas she was scared to go to the doctors for a long time. This was in 2020 at the height of Covid, so let’s not pretend or give the false impression it’s been that bad.
It's a bit of a post code lottery. My mother waited 11 weeks for the result of a skin biopsy and had already had to contact the GP 3 times to get an appointment to be seen and referred. So about 6 months to get to that stage. Luckily the growing skin patch was benign despite its alarming appearance. My husband's aunt had a huge tumour on her head and was told initially that it was a blocked hair follicle. She had to keep retuning to prove that it was growing rapidly. She also had anaemia and pains in one arm. She waited about 3 months for test results and in the meantime the tumour had put pressure on an optic nerve resulting in distorted vision. The optician fast tracked her back to hospital requesting urgent tests which turned out to be the same ones that she'd had and was waiting results. Once diagnosed it was already stage 4 and only limited treatments available but treatmen and care has been continuous. If only she'd been diagnosed earlier....
All I can say big shout out to Homerton hospital london for all surgery and appts super quick and to Eastbourne hospital who did my disabled sons removal of wisdom teeth and removal of bladder stone from his bladder after extensive surgery due to sepsis super speedy cannot fault these 2 hospitals
Waiting lists falling..huh..constant specialiat referral cancellations by NHS ..you can't even get seen by a specialist. I waited 6 months and then got told the appointment had been rejected. Two more specialist referrals but the same thing keeps happening. I keep being referred back to my GP so youre just left to pop pain meds and told there's nothing they can do. I've been fighting for help for so long but it feels like youre just abandoned and left to rot.
He can afford all these holidays but can't afford to go private? Yes he shouldn't have to but cancer is life or death and I wouldn't put my life in the NHS's hands!
I imagine having all the treatment privately(scams consultations chemo radiotherapy other medicatiom amd check ups) would cost £100k+ which is much more than a few holidays. Honestly one private tooth filling costs me about 2 days wages It was about one days 5 years ago but then doubled. Needless to say my wages did not. Just to explain why private treatment in the UK is unaffordable.
@@Ras6200 £100k is nothing compared to your life, get your priorities straight, life is more valuable than any amount of money, stop defining life in terms of money!
This is outrageous but was entirely predictable. The NHS should be abolished and replaced with a public/private system with affordable health insurance, just like most of the countries that have great health care. Let go of the NHS Britons - nothing can be fixed until you do.
Labour actually started the privatisation of healthcare ball rolling... they dismantled general practice fundholding and some aspects of the Tory internal market. Then set up primary care groups, remade them into primary care trusts, and then merged them again into half the number.
I thought my expirence was bad. Having to wait for cancer is insane. I've spent 2 years trying to get help slowly giving up. Its a joke they don't listen doesn't helpnits over loaded. Nobody should have to wait this long for cancer treatment. Waiting is the difference between life and death. I feel so bad for anyone whos had a bad expirence with NHS.
I listen to the radio a fair bit, being disabled & getting older I spend a lot of time at home. The 2 stations I listen to currently are delite radio & Devon Air Gold. They have a lot of adverts unfortunately, there now seems to be to be a lot of Government advertising (an election looming maybe!) There are ones about the cost of living help, taking disabled people’s priority seats on public transport, but also one about “if you think there’s something wrong in your body, get it checked out, your GP/surgery are waiting to hear from you.”!! It would be funny if it wasn’t so awful, a downright lie & extremely misleading. Plus how much are they spending on this??😢
Ch4, I found your coverage biased in this video. You mention covid delays and strikes. NHS England had 4M+ waiting list in 2019. These same people would be in the same position if this were 2019. Conservative mismanagement of the NHS is the problem. I hope all these people survive with proper treatment.
Yes. It can take quite a few visits to the GP to be refereed for tests and scans. Hence a tumour on a relatives head was deemed to be a blocked sebaceous pore until it had grown to the size of two hard boiled eggs.
If you believe all of the news stories, all of the extra money that the NHS gets is being put into cosmetic surgery and other vanity projects. What happened to migrants propping up the NHS exactly?
It doesn't have to be unaffordable. I had chemo for breast cancer privately in Australia (by choice) and all I paid was the equivalent of 100 pounds. Insurance is not cheap but the more people go private, the less pressure on the public system.
@susanellis1828 People with cancer are not being treated until it’s too late, the only way it could get worse is if we lost the NHS altogether and went like america where you have to pay a grand for an ambulance and 19 grand to have a baby if you can’t afford insurance or it isn’t covered by your insurance
Assuming you can afford it, the same consultant that would have treated you for free on the NHS, provides your private heath care, but you've effectively paid twice for the same treatment. Meanwhile you marvel at how quickly you received private medical treatment from that same consultant and idiotically wonder why the NHS couldn't provide such a service. Your mind then turns to the junior doctors forced to strike or the staff wasting money left, right and centre in the NHS that the government has told you about. This same government whose ethos is that everyone should pay for their own private medical treatment and wants rid of the NHS and so is intentionally underfunding it, blaming staff for a deteriorating service and steering increasing numbers to the private market. You just keep bleating about how bad the NHS is while letting the government off the hook for this debacle. You're oblivious to the fact that you've become a sheeple!
Ha ha ha. There are no waiting lists. You are waiting for something that WILL NEVER HAPPEN. The expression is YOU'VE BEEN KICKED INTO THE LONG GRASS, and nobody's gonna tell you the truth. Welcome to da NHS
None of this is fair. But cancer treatment should NEVER have to wait.
During the first lockdown,. they stopped a friend's treatment.
Pay for it yourself
You CHOSE to lockdown. You could have refused. So YOU are to blame. Stop complaining
Cancer "treatment" is what will kill you quickest. Avoid it like the mythical plague.
One has to fatten Insuranes. Also it controls the population as the wait will" take care" of patients.
I thought after Brexit the UK was gonna invest all the savings in the NHS. Didn’t work out? 🤷♀️
Sadly with so many migrants using the NHS it just can't cope
That's what everyone thought, we are still controlled by Europe to an extent, like human rights laws and not being able to control our borders because of European high courts, while immigration spirals out of control.
The NHS gets THREE TIMES the £350,000,000 stated on the bus extra since Brexit.
However, it has to treat around 2,300,000 extra people since 2016, with another 1,000,000 expected this year alone.
All of whom have full access to NHS services on arrival, regardless of the fact that they will have contributed nothing.
@@stevenc5227
We haven't had Brexit. We've had a watered down, half hearted version of 'Brexit'
The corrput governemnt and politicians have lined their pockets with the cash and are intentionaly destroying the NHS to privatise it .....its all planned .
Im not even waiting.
Ive been told, as long as I can walk 100m unaided and Im not incontinent.. Im not getting the spine operation to improve my quality of life.
So I have to wait until my back finally give way and its too late before the NHS will do anything.
I approached a private healthcare provider... They will not insure me as I have a pre existing condition.
They would have to fix that first before I would be considered for insurance.
The price they quoted to fix me....
Around £80,000
I can relate, I have atrophy in my legs and walk like a drunkard when i'm sober but because i'm in no pain the Doctor isn't bothered and the Jobcentre won't support me they just told me to get a job, I guess they won't be satisfied until I collapse!
Lol inviting millions of people from the 3rd world doesn't seem like a great idea now. Back of the que you go
@@raoulmoat6762Perhaps the fact you drink too much is why your doctor has given up caring.
Lie, pretend you cant walk
@@Gambit771 I wouldn't mind if I actually drank alcohol and this was the reason for this, but not touching alcohol and still walking like this is worrying. And I developed my stride over many years to walk cool and now it's all gone.
As a foreigner who's lived in the UK for more than 10 years, I can honestly say that the NHS is a joke.
NHS deliberately underfunded by a political party that has been in power for 14 years and believes private health care is the way. No surprise the NHS is in a bad way when it's custodians that hold the purse strings don't believe in it and who's donors benefit from every step to privatization.
I live in NZ and our public health system has gone the same way. Thank goodness for private health insurance.
All the fault of this incompetent tory government
They never back-charged people who just turn up to use it.
As a premature baby who is alive because of the NHS, as someone who had a huge hole in my diaphragm that was causing me to vomit for twelve hours a day, operated on and vastly improved by the NHS, I am so greatful for it. Solo greatful I don't live in US where people are given debts. Just wish a government who prioritised caring and helping people as opposed to cutting back on all public services until they are on their knees.
Every time I need NHS, I get blood pressure and come back home without any further treatment.
At my most recent GP appointment I was told by the practice (that I have been at almost all my life) that they had no record of me having asthma - I have had asthma since childhood, been in that GP practice on several occasions because of it and got my asthma inhaler prescriptions from there. When they expired I was struggling with breathing, pressure in my chest, feeling scared of having a life-ending attack but couldn’t get inhalers for months because I had to be referred to a specialist to be diagnosed for a condition I already had been diagnosed with. How tf does that even happen? How do years of records and prescriptions just disappear?
I had that happen to not only all of my medical conditions (I have several) but also my penicillin allergy! This happened when I moved GP surgery. I had to essentially get re-diagnosed with everything, and they almost prescribed me penicillin because they had NO record of me having any allergies until I informed them. So dangerous.
I've had the same with long-standing allergies,past treatments, and conditions.
The surgery explanation ?
"Oh, our medical records only go back 5 years when they were digitised."
It's being deliberately dismantled and streamlined ripe for private Corp to come in and cream some profit from it.
Computer says No. Welcome to the techno Marxism settling all around us. Figures can just vanish at the touch of a button.
Just come to a 3rd World Country ( so called and ridiculed by " Big Highly developed" nations) like India. You can walk into an OP of a hospital and request a consultation with a Pulmonologist ( Chest Specialist). You can get it done in 1-3 hours for less than 10 USD. You can get your relevant tests done in another 2- 4 hours. No need of referral, no need of Appointment and therefore, No Disappointment.
So who has really " Developed" in the medical field at least ..!?.
If you need any help, contact me.
@@gar6446 What's wrong with profit? If a company were able to make a profit, it would mean they were delivering.
Yip I had to use all my savings to pay for a joint replacement privately after waiting two years on the NHS waiting list in terrible pain. It made me both sad and annoyed after having worked as a nurse in the NHS for 40 years. I was lucky I had some savings and not a cancer, chronic diagnosis my heart goes out to those people and their families. The NHS is completely mismanaged locally and nationally getting worse as the years have progressed and its not all about money, the staff have known that for a long time now but no one ever listens to clinicians, now the public are suffering, the covid excuse is wearing very thin!
For more than two years my GP surgery denied me a referral for surgery because they were unable to gather my records from previous surgeries. Even after a letter of recommendation for urgent referral from a hospital I was admitted to following an infection going septic, the surgery would not refer me. Having had a young friend die the previous year from sepsis, I was afraid and felt forced to go private, which coupled with months signed off work each year due to chronic infections, devastated me financially and destroyed my relationship with my former employer. All this over a 30 minute surgery. No such thing as free health care in the UK anymore.
Over 5 years ago i was waiting for a left knee replacement now over 5 years latter i require 2 knee 2 hip replacements where is my quality of life ? The NHS are a disgrace if i had MP's money i would go private but on a pension after paying in for over 50 years. Dreadful
My heart was hurting watching this. We are all human & behind each health condition is a person who others care about & perhaps rely on tremendously. People are not just statistics & this is exactly the way the NHS is operating at the moment. They don’t see the human aspect, they see just another number. Posted with love & prayers from a single parent with two beautiful daughters who need me very much whilst I struggle with 3 separate health conditions & I’m on 3 different specialists waiting lists & have been for years while my heart is quietly failing. Welcome to 2024 folks…..the new world where only the rich are entitled to healthcare.
Same in Australia. I switched to the private system and the care has been amazing. As usual, money solves most problems.
Poor guy. So brave.
I’m also on the waiting list. Have been waiting for an appointment date for 7 months already and recently was told that have to wait 6 months more. The irony is that I work for NHS as a Biomedical Scientist yet feeling let down by the organisation I work in.
I came to UK 18 years ago, and honestly I can say that the quality of care just rolled down the hill.
I can' t imagine how it can be any worse than it already is. Maybe NHS will disappear completely in future...
Yes, I wonder why?
Just wonder what's happend for the last twenty years at uncontrolled levels hmm
@@curiositycloset2359 It's not rocket science. Perhaps you care to mention your theory, or is it too detached from reality to air?
@@patrikfloding7985 I just wonder what happens when you increase the non tax paying population by many many millions?
@@curiositycloset2359 Can you provide evidence for your assertion?
To be fair this is how it was 40 years ago.
I had an accident back then and injured my leg.
Went to A&E and they sent me home without treatment.
Told me to rest it.
Two weeks of pain later I went back.
I had a fractured tibia and my fibula was in 4 pieces.
Also, the ligaments that attach my foot to my leg were separated.
Literally torn apart.
Took 15 hours of surgery, and 3 screws, to repair and 2 years to heal.
Other occasion I dropped a weight on my foot at the gym.
Same thing. A&E sent me home.
Went back a week later and X rays revealed 4 broken toes.
Incompetence in the NHS is not a new thing
i was surprised when i got sent home with a broken collar bone. i got seen the next day but i didn't even think people would get sent home at all! with a broken bone. naive i was i guess.
Horrific. My friend's husband and son died. I noticed her limping at the funeral. She'd fallen and hurt her foot. Sent home. 'No nothing'. Within a couple of years, she was crippled. Tested. Broken bones in her foot. Grrr.
I pay for Private healthcare as I can’t trust the NHS.
Save lives! Don't go to a doctor! Remember?
As a French, I feel like my country and the UK should partner for sharing medical ressources on some specific cases. People should never wait for medical treatment, especially for cancer! When I see a fellow Brit who can't get proper care on time, I just want to say: Book your Eurostar tickets and come to France for a week or two, our healthcare system is not performing well here too but things that still work, we'll have them work for you
I haven't been able to see a doctor in years. I live every day in extreme pain.... enough pain I have been thinking about putting an end to it myself.
God loves you, He died so you could be free from all your sins, through the pain ask God for strength let Him guide, He has a plan for you don't end it now.
He is with you
Heartless government
When weapons and wars come before
People and the NHS
Don't vote Labour or Conservative
What happend to the money that was paid to be in the EU
Was supposed to go to NHS
It did. 3 times more now than was promised.
ECHR though
2 weeks to flatten the curve.
Great idea wasn't it.
it did flatten the curve but and made a mountain after 2 weeks.
These people should be able to sue the government. It is disgusting what this country is going through and politicians keep gaslighting us about the state of the NHS.
Thats so true.
maybe if the Uk keeps letting in millions more freeloads that will help the NHS
Proof? Not just an anecdote.
Are you a wimdow licker?@@Zen-rd9np
@@Zen-rd9nphuh?
Why isnt this making the news everyday? Today on radio 2 Jeremy vine they were discussing snails in the garden! What the heck is going on!
Don’t expect anything else from the BBC, they sold out a long time ago & are in the Tory pockets. The huge salaries that presenters like Jeremy Vine get are a disgrace, plus in recent times, he came out with appalling, unqualified rubbish about disabled people claiming sickness benefits😢 I gave up the TV licence/tax 4-5 years ago, pay for Netflix & watch catch up only. I will never go back to the licence BBC😢
fixing is a long way to go as long as private practice is prioritised in NHS hospitals, they need to be separated from NHS hospitals workforce and the private practice doctors have to be a separate pool of doctors rather than the NHS consultants. Many middle grade doctors are not being developed into specialists by the existing consultants, there is a shortage of specialists artificially and continuously created in the NHS system by the existing consultants. Urgent overhaul is necessary to clean up this private practice mess in the NHS hospitals to improve the patient waiting time lists.
In Australia, many doctors practise in the public hospitals and also privately. It doesn't present a problem and the public and private sectors work cooperatively. This isn't a problem with private practice. The problem is that the public side of the equation is too big in Britain. You need a balance of public and private.
I wonder if the waiting list would be shorter if labour hadn’t let in six million immigrants?
When did Labour let in 6 million? They haven't been in government for 14 years😂 The Conservative government allowed 2.3 million legal immigrants in just the last 2 years which is fine because legal immigrants have to be qualified under the points system, so they pay taxes which contribute to supporting the NHS and probably a pro rata number of those immigrants are Doctors or Nurses. So what's your problem other than being an ignorant racist?
B-b-but duh immigrants. I wonder if this is what the native Americans and native Australians were saying as you people stole their land
That's untrue, the current government has been in power for 14 years and they are not Labour.
@@Itoshimi Amazing false equivalence argument. I heard the Sioux had a fantastic free healthcare system but the damn colonials destroyed it. You really are dumb, mate.
And Tories letting in another 6 million.
I'm horrified by this. I'm not British. Help me understand why the NHS is in such crisis. Why?
Turbo cancers, excess deaths- wonder if there is a link to the Covid Vaccine that folks were bullied into getting? Particularly as Pyzer has apologised for putting a faulty vaccine on the market & Astra Zenica was no longer available for 'reasons' related to heart problems. Just asking questions @Channel4
You're not really asking questions if you won't accept the answers, are you?
You're just pontificating shite
Indeed. The Australian Journal of General Practice this month:
"Recipients of two or more injections of the mRNA vaccines display a class switch to IgG4 antibodies. Abnormally high levels of IgG4 might cause autoimmune diseases, promote cancer growth, autoimmune myocarditis and other IgG 4-related diseases (IgG4-RD) in susceptible individuals."
There has been virtually NO investigative journalism over any aspect of what was inflicted on people in 2020 and beyond.
Got any proof rather than anecdotal?
@@Zen-rd9np Do your own research & you'll see for yourself. However, just to help you with your awakening, I'd start with our own ONS data for the last 3 years before they changed the way the do the Maths. Also cos I'm good like that see what's happening in Australia & their data & excess deaths. Plus check out research papers out of Israel. Happy reading & learning.
@Zen-rd9np you really don't like facts do you.
You're the reason we have "do not drink" on bottles of bleach
All they make up things like saying that I abused a member of staff over the phone so they can kick you off the waiting list
in a Feminised country everything is 'abuse'
I honestly think turkey has better health care, lol. Imagine a first world country can't even get proper health care. After this election we can't leave the torries ever get back in number 10.
Labour will be just as bad if not worse
@@BrandonMichaels-we9vnhistorical evidence is not on your side.
Oh ffs it's not the Tories who have destroyed the NHS. Well not in the way you think. Yes the Tories are utterly awful and deserve to be destroyed at the next election but one thing you cannot accuse them of is not giving the NHS enough money.
If the NHS was a country it would be the 42nd best economy on earth. It is the 5th biggest employer on the planet. Not the country, the entire planet! The problems with the NHS are entirely down to the NHS itself. Funding for the NHS has risen massively since the Tories took charge but it has got worse. Why? A number of reasons and yes the Tories can be blamed for that but truthfully all the Tories did was carry on Labour policies. Plus shutting it down for what essentially was a slightly worse version of the flu really didn't help.
@@Zen-rd9np Yeah, it really is. Part of the reason the NHS is in the state it is in right now is due to Labour and it's disastrous PPI policy which saddled the NHS with eye watering debt they are struggling to service. And I take it you weren't around in the 70s either.
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have a look at Dr Bob Gill's film - The Great NHS Heist. Explains in a bit more detail than channel 4 what's really going on
Lets import more people that will help
Why is channel 4 censoring alot of the comments?
The RUclips algorithm also censors comments
@sahhull all you have to do is say the word T 0 r y
Because the truth hurts
u.s demo crats making the internet safe law say what you like about trump then add your comment the alo doesn't pick up on it
I had cancer last year I would’ve waited 3 months just for my first ultra-sound had I been the NHS. Scary stuff.
this is so sad . I hope they eventually get treatment
i am moving to usa soon, the funniest part is NHS payments at average salary is about 4x what very good health insurance in USA costs... and in the uk, you can't even opt out... :\
i have graves disease for 15 years untreated... and yet within a few weeks of arriving in usa i will be straight onto treatment, you are treated as a customer in USA, because you are one.
unlike the NHS, you are treated like a scrounger...
It seems that nothing changes in the NHS, where people die every week due to the long waiting list for surgeries and people who is in ongoing treatment, (as cancer patients etc) where sometimes they tell you not to call and have asked patients to avoid emergency services unless their condition is life-threatening.
I was diagnosed and finished all my cancer treatments within 5 months
Diagnostics including mere Ultrasound has a 3 month wait in most " Insurance run" health systems in several western countries. In so called under rated and ridiculed " 3rd world nations" you can just walk into any umpteen diagnostic centres and request an ultrasound and you get it in one hour with report.
No waits. Only CT, MRI need a prescription. That can be done in 6 hrs. Likewise most Lab tests you can get in 2-6 hrs. Looking like that, one has to admit that " Medical Insurance " policy run medical system is too very primitive.
Throw away your passport and pretend not to speak english.......... You get all the help you need 😢
Sad but true.
The eternal victim
This is absolutely unbelievable what I am hearing... what is happening ?
Mass immigration is ruinous.
Been warning everyone since 1997 🤷🏽♂️
Chronic underfunding, increasingly elderly and co morbid population
Take more doctors instead of finding alternatives in PA, AA!!!!!
Atleast if you start now in 5 years we will have more consultants
Treatment starts in changing your diet and lifestyle.
Too many immigrants choking up the system
You mean literally keeping the NHS afloat by working for crappy wages as nurses and doctors?
@@sweetygirl165 This is what they don't see. Immigrants have been forced to cover up some gap from the workers we lost because of Brexit.
Do you really believe what you’re saying? Immigration especially illegal immigrants is out of control
Too many people living on other people- or benefits. Too many elderly people stuck in hospital. Low pay for care workers hence less staff. Too many people out of work and not contributing to the system
@@sweetygirl165 Another person amoung millions who cherry pick theirfacts n order to create a more comfortable world veiw that also fits with their friends/social media profile.
It is true that many legal immigrants to your country work in the NHS, and do a great job too.
These people are quite different to those persons who enter the UK by force, and having disposed of their ID deliberately. Try facts even if you dont like them. The NHS depends on tax.
Tax comes from the overall sucess of the UK in many ways, and less waste, and with billions a year spent on migrants, and when they have families, demand their rights, perhaps engage in crime...time to face reality and with a war with Russia too.
The UK is a money pit too.
Reform will fix this problem
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the great lie we keep being told is if you have a concerns see you're gp.... Good luck with that..
What about all these 'doctors' and 'surgeons' arriving on our shores daily? Surely the NHS should be powering ahead, no?
Wales health service is twice as slow. Little organisation!
im willing to change career and become doctor if they made course fees cheaper or gave grants. they dont even pay doctors well and theyre lacking hospitals and beds.
Honestly I’m 16 and this is starting to freak me out lol
Buy yourself health insurance or save money to go private because the nhs is on its knees. Hardly any midwives either so more home births- phone the doctors tomorrow and see what they do- they’ll send you home with condoms and contraception. I wouldn’t bother expecting anything from the nhs sorry hun. Save save save save save your money. You don’t need a weekend away- you need your health. You can’t stop cancer or get any treatment but with health insurance you’ll get some help. I’ve been in a coma life support fed via a tube in my stomach and can’t get any help from social services or jobcentre etc etc etc. when your in hospital you don’t earn a penny but if you have health insurance they cover everything and pay you for being in hospital too. Start work as soon as you can, go to uni and get rich but you’ll never service cancer. Best thing to do is save all your money- every penny and move to Australia or New Zealand. Uni in New Zealand is absolutely FREE!!!! Hardly no crime in New Zealand either. Don’t stay in the Uk- your just a slave here. Save every penny and move. If you can. If not don’t be a care worker EVER!!!!
With the way things are going, just go private - if you do it from the start and keep it as a necessity rather than a luxury I feel this is genuinely your best option. Going private means having insurance BEFORE you're ill so that your payments are partially/fully covered. Going private after your ill will just mean you'll create a payment plan to afford the surgery, which will be more than you pay for your insurance. Shame you'll still have to pay tax for the NHS for the government to make no changes to it :) I'm saving to move Australia lol seems financially possible to survive out there.
@@gangstaliam8876What a load of rubbish. Going private just means skipping the queue, and you still need to use NHS services as a private patient. The only way to fix the NHS is to kick out the private firms that leech away the funding and make the rich pay their fair share of tax.
Best advice I can think of is to be responsible for your own wellbeing. Now and in the future. Healthy eating. Being very active, etc.
When we are young, we feel fit and healthy, and never anticipate being unwell. The choices we make each day will show up for good or for bad way down the road.
I knew a district nurse who told me her fittest clients were aged 75 -100 years old. They just had minimal age related issues. She had concerns about the 50 - 75 group. But the 25 - 50 were deeply concerning.
Also, stay fit mentally as well. Take care - great care.
Save for Private!
I pay £600/month in NI payments.
I still pay private on top.
Don't worry there is boats more people daily ahead of you
Instead of figuring out that the reason why this is happening is because men at the top want private healthcare as it makes them more money, you blame the immigrants who just want to live in peace.
I told my husband that the first person I would turn to in case of medical need is a vet! Animals are treated better and faster than humans
The NHS cannot be “fixed” it’s way, way too late for that.
From diagnosis to having treatment, my friend has waited….4 weeks! My mother didn’t wait at all, they brought nurses into her the same week. Sadly mother had left it too long to get a diagnosis so it was well advanced at that stage. Despite our pleas she was scared to go to the doctors for a long time. This was in 2020 at the height of Covid, so let’s not pretend or give the false impression it’s been that bad.
It's a bit of a post code lottery. My mother waited 11 weeks for the result of a skin biopsy and had already had to contact the GP 3 times to get an appointment to be seen and referred. So about 6 months to get to that stage. Luckily the growing skin patch was benign despite its alarming appearance.
My husband's aunt had a huge tumour on her head and was told initially that it was a blocked hair follicle. She had to keep retuning to prove that it was growing rapidly. She also had anaemia and pains in one arm. She waited about 3 months for test results and in the meantime the tumour had put pressure on an optic nerve resulting in distorted vision. The optician fast tracked her back to hospital requesting urgent tests which turned out to be the same ones that she'd had and was waiting results. Once diagnosed it was already stage 4 and only limited treatments available but treatmen and care has been continuous. If only she'd been diagnosed earlier....
All I can say big shout out to Homerton hospital london for all surgery and appts super quick and to Eastbourne hospital who did my disabled sons removal of wisdom teeth and removal of bladder stone from his bladder after extensive surgery due to sepsis super speedy cannot fault these 2 hospitals
Let’s spend money on foreigners being kept in clover though eh🤬
I hope the junior doctors are proud of themselves.
Waiting lists falling..huh..constant specialiat referral cancellations by NHS ..you can't even get seen by a specialist. I waited 6 months and then got told the appointment had been rejected. Two more specialist referrals but the same thing keeps happening. I keep being referred back to my GP so youre just left to pop pain meds and told there's nothing they can do. I've been fighting for help for so long but it feels like youre just abandoned and left to rot.
But I thought the NHS was 'the envy of the world'? It's not actually very good and no other country wants to copy the model - who knew?
He can afford all these holidays but can't afford to go private? Yes he shouldn't have to but cancer is life or death and I wouldn't put my life in the NHS's hands!
I imagine having all the treatment privately(scams consultations chemo radiotherapy other medicatiom amd check ups) would cost £100k+ which is much more than a few holidays. Honestly one private tooth filling costs me about 2 days wages
It was about one days 5 years ago but then doubled. Needless to say my wages did not. Just to explain why private treatment in the UK is unaffordable.
@@Ras6200 £100k is nothing compared to your life, get your priorities straight, life is more valuable than any amount of money, stop defining life in terms of money!
this is tories mess its going to get any better if people keep voting for them believe me
Labour the same. Immigration is ruinous.
Open borders has that affect
F#%King ridiculous waiting for what these people are dying. Where is all the cancer charity money going. Ffs NHS is finished.
MELD PURGATORY is absolutely vicious!
This is outrageous but was entirely predictable. The NHS should be abolished and replaced with a public/private system with affordable health insurance, just like most of the countries that have great health care. Let go of the NHS Britons - nothing can be fixed until you do.
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Tories plan for the privatisation of healthcare, so many people are already turning to private heath care so plan is working
Well done tories
Labour actually started the privatisation of healthcare ball rolling... they dismantled general practice fundholding and some aspects of the Tory internal market. Then set up primary care groups, remade them into primary care trusts, and then merged them again into half the number.
Exactly. As an American, it’s a bad idea, private healthcare will make treatment for a broken finger cost $70,000.
true, but i have waited 6 months on NHS in London to see a gastrologist. Those 6 months can be the difference between stage 1 and terminal. @@Itoshimi
I thought my expirence was bad. Having to wait for cancer is insane. I've spent 2 years trying to get help slowly giving up. Its a joke they don't listen doesn't helpnits over loaded.
Nobody should have to wait this long for cancer treatment. Waiting is the difference between life and death. I feel so bad for anyone whos had a bad expirence with NHS.
*muh “FREE” health care*
The NHS is open to too many people.
It is akin to corporate murder...
I listen to the radio a fair bit, being disabled & getting older I spend a lot of time at home. The 2 stations I listen to currently are delite radio & Devon Air Gold. They have a lot of adverts unfortunately, there now seems to be to be a lot of Government advertising (an election looming maybe!) There are ones about the cost of living help, taking disabled people’s priority seats on public transport, but also one about “if you think there’s something wrong in your body, get it checked out, your GP/surgery are waiting to hear from you.”!!
It would be funny if it wasn’t so awful, a downright lie & extremely misleading. Plus how much are they spending on this??😢
Reform iß the fixer🙂
Ch4, I found your coverage biased in this video. You mention covid delays and strikes. NHS England had 4M+ waiting list in 2019. These same people would be in the same position if this were 2019.
Conservative mismanagement of the NHS is the problem. I hope all these people survive with proper treatment.
This is me. Glacial pace of the NHS or no hope service as my friend calls it has cost me my job. Eternal waiting lists. Shoulder problem.
Just go private. I've registered for private health insurance. Can't be bothered with NHS anymore
Not everyone can afford private.
Do it like Greece and the lists will shorten
Grease? Like vaseline? Like gay?
Even Wonga wouldnt lend to the Greek economy.
No one talks about those unable to get on the waiting list who are waiting nonetheless 😢
Yes. It can take quite a few visits to the GP to be refereed for tests and scans. Hence a tumour on a relatives head was deemed to be a blocked sebaceous pore until it had grown to the size of two hard boiled eggs.
Im ashamed of the uk..
If you believe all of the news stories, all of the extra money that the NHS gets is being put into cosmetic surgery and other vanity projects. What happened to migrants propping up the NHS exactly?
Poor patients,if you have money pay to get alternative treatment.Dont wait.
prove it by showing the list words are not enough
But what happens when you have to pay for the insurance or the chemo ourselves, I wouldn't be having it all. I can't afford it.
It doesn't have to be unaffordable. I had chemo for breast cancer privately in Australia (by choice) and all I paid was the equivalent of 100 pounds. Insurance is not cheap but the more people go private, the less pressure on the public system.
Why is it that with digital communication, why is it taking weeks to find out about a condition instead of days or even hours.😮😮😮😮
Why has the NHS gone so downhill. What is the reason?😮
Amazing inefficiencies. Total inability to move with the times. Not investing in things that makes things run smoother. Much like the rest of Britain.
Tories?
Immigration.
Same with all infrastructure.
People just turned up (unwelcome) without paying into the pot.
Feel really sorry for Ian and Flora but the last guy was self inflicted, you do mad things on a skateboard what do you expect.
I bet king Charles didn’t have to wait like this .
What happens when you vote for the Tories, wouldn't be happening if Corbyn won.
Watch out, you'll have tons of people attacking you for that because Corbyn lives rent free in their heads.
I suspect it would continue to happen if Starmer was voted in, still
@@archimedesbird3439 Yep, too late now!
Would be a dammed site worst
@susanellis1828 People with cancer are not being treated until it’s too late, the only way it could get worse is if we lost the NHS altogether and went like america where you have to pay a grand for an ambulance and 19 grand to have a baby if you can’t afford insurance or it isn’t covered by your insurance
Sounds like a “turbo” cancer from the “cupcakes.” Stop the shots.
Assuming you can afford it, the same consultant that would have treated you for free on the NHS, provides your private heath care, but you've effectively paid twice for the same treatment. Meanwhile you marvel at how quickly you received private medical treatment from that same consultant and idiotically wonder why the NHS couldn't provide such a service. Your mind then turns to the junior doctors forced to strike or the staff wasting money left, right and centre in the NHS that the government has told you about. This same government whose ethos is that everyone should pay for their own private medical treatment and wants rid of the NHS and so is intentionally underfunding it, blaming staff for a deteriorating service and steering increasing numbers to the private market. You just keep bleating about how bad the NHS is while letting the government off the hook for this debacle. You're oblivious to the fact that you've become a sheeple!
Ha ha ha. There are no waiting lists. You are waiting for something that WILL NEVER HAPPEN. The expression is YOU'VE BEEN KICKED INTO THE LONG GRASS, and nobody's gonna tell you the truth. Welcome to da NHS
Just pay for it yourself. Nobody else owes you anything.
Just terrible!!!!!
‘No person’s land’
FFS... Grow up
Dinghy men are more important
“white privilege” 🙄
Yes it exists.
@@Itoshimi yh in your head
@@cong3768 In reality. You claim it doesn’t exist while benefiting from it
@@Itoshimi beg u give me some evidence
@@Itoshimi how 🤣
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Lies
Doctors and nurses know that patients are suffering waiting on the list but yet they still strike being selfish making the list longer for shame.
Tory W⚓
Rather give children HRT lol, epic country
There are no waiting lists in China.
You earned your 50 cents, bye now.
@@GManWrites ??
@@anthonymathews3872 Google 50 cent army