This guy is the Roger Decoster of today. Everyone is always thinking about the motorcycle, meantime, we all know it’s 90% rider, 10% motorcycle. Thank you, Ryan - for your amazing information and insight.
I'm an A-class racer, I know how to ride and up until January I never wore a knee brace I always said oh ill eventually get them, well I was at a track and overshot a corner and hyperextended my knee and two months later it's finally about 75% healed and I'm just now being able to exercise medically and ride again. My advice to you just shell out the few hundred dollars, it's worth the pain you will avoid, and possible long term implications.
I just bought my first knee brace and I rode with it only for a few laps and I ditch it and went back to the knee shin guard protection. Omg what a big difference. I enjoyed riding again and the mobility is really important to me. Thanks Ryan.
Well.... my thoughts are this. i was riding with relatively good technique on an indoor track, the track was tight and the lanes on the track parallel each other in opposite directions. As I was riding I panicked because I was afraid I was going to run into someone else so when I went off a jump and started to go the direction of the other person I quickly leaned the other way to avoid them and went straight into the ground feet first and my leg twisted pretty badly. Doctors all said that if I had braced my knee I either would have walked away with a few bruises and some scratches or I would not have injured it quite near as badly. The investment is minor and truly for most of us that ride are not riding at a high level where we need to perform at our best in order to pay the bills. But instead we all work 5 days a week to be able to ride on Saturday or Sunday a few times a month. This knee injury took me out of work for three weeks and out of riding for a few months and now when I go back to work I’m limited on what I can do for another month or two. Buy the braces, wear the braces, except the inconvenience they give you when you ride because your knees will thank you when you’re 30-40-50-60 years old and you’ll be happy you can go to work every day and walk lol it’s worth it
ha-ha. Your post is what those who sell us the braces for 1000$(sometimes for each leg) say!) The mistakes of your thinking are those: - motocross is a risky sport and you can not get protection for everything - How many times in your career You crashed so that exactly the specifics of the braces construction helped You to survive rather than the regular good-quality kneepads? - how many times your natural leg musles-stabilisers helped You to avoid the really hard crashes that could deliver the damage that no kneebrace can help?
Of course. Nothing is better then training for the knees to protect them. But it never is wrong to have more protection if it doesn't limit your mobility. So many unaspekted can happen in life in generell. And we all need good skills and shurly good luck too. And protection is protection.
@@lotharluder2743 no. That is wrong. You always have to keap the balance between protection and mobility. For example the vast majority of the mx-riders don't wear the elbow pads even they are 100% impact on almost each fall and many adult riders are rejecting the neck protectoк because it makes the riding dramaticaly more uncomfortable. If You want to be 100% protected than only the deep underwater siut may be enough. Or You have to quit motospot. As one our coach said - motosport is so risky, that You are risking while riding, risking when You came close to the bike and even when You came to watch motocross You are already risking,
@@lotharluder2743 The main problem is that they don't give that much protection as it is advertised. Unless they are nailed to your bones and can not rotate with your skin)
"What you don't use you loose". Prior orthopedic surgical PA here. Felt obligated to comment. The knee is a hinge type synovial joint, mainly extension and flexion. A knee brace prevents hyperextension, medial and lateral movement. Theses are unnatural movements for the knee and CAN cause injury to collateral ligaments that are crucial to keep a stable joint. You will not loose muscle because your natural movement is not very limited. You are still recruiting the muscle fibers to control flexion and extension. Also the comment on impact is false. You can get OA and joint space narrowing from repetitive low impact that is much less, including running. Loss of mobility? maybe slightly if that is the main point. Make sure to educate self, before you educate. Ride on buddy, well done, Cheers!!!
As an enduro rider myself, comparing skiers to moto doesn't make much sense. I bash myself into my braces a ton, and feel naked riding without them. If I road on a track I might only wear pads and leave the braces in the truck.
You’re missing the point he is saying. With knee braces, you lose movement which will help you control the bike. He is speaking for marking your body as mobile as possible to gain that extra 1/10th of a second with racing. You just out doing enduro as a hobby does not really apply to what he is saying.
@@troysawyers9781 That makes sense. I suppose his target audience are those looking to shave off as much lap time as possible. I'm looking to extend the amount of time I'm able to simply mount a bike. lol. Life is short, and good bones have an even shorter shelf life.
I can still bend my knees in braces in the way they are meant to when you ride. I think they help me grip the bike better too. You don’t have to crash to damaged a joint or ligament could happen when you catch it on a rut for example. I got work Monday I’ll be keeping my braces for now lol only been riding a few months maybe when I’ve got more confidence 👌😂
Got to work on Monday as well. Ditched my braces a year ago and never looked back. But what’s true is that I try to keep my feet on the pegs as much as possible.
He never told you to stop wearing them big guy and you do not have good technique if you are worried about catching your foot in a rut. If you don’t understand what he is saying you need to get off your seat and try grabbing 2nd next for once.
Nate 104 nah your right. Got shit technique. Starting Mx when your nearly 30 probably ain’t the best idea. From the vids I’ve seen about stories of minor crashes where acl have been snapped and people braking their necks which could possibly have been prevented from wearing a bit of protective gear. No need to get shirty “big man”. Just sticking my 50p worth in lol and they 💯 help grip the bike better. plus u don’t notice them after a few rides
@@charlieprior5604 respect for to learning how to ride at an older age better late than never man. Im a not far off 30 myself and I’ve been riding for over 20 years and I’ve seen and lived some horror stories at the track lol. Protective gear only helps to an extent and can limit your movement which can limit your ability to ride the bike so you can use your body the way you need to. At the end of the day work on balance and using good form and keep your feet on the pegs and you’ll fall less and less. Also riding without braces helps you grip wayyy more. Have a good one big guy. Lol
I’m sure there is some truth to what you’re saying, but there are certain injuries that can be prevented by wearing knee braces. I tore my ACL without knee braces while suffering an extreme hyper extension, which a knee brace would have prevented. The “natural” argument flaw is that we’re adding more speed & momentum when we ride than what our bodies were designed for. My knee braces are properly fitted, and don’t hamper my riding. I don’t wear them off the bike, though, to keep the muscles, tendons, & ligaments strong.
" which a knee brace would have prevented." >> Have you tested this theory in a parallel universe? How do you know what would have been? Damn, I sound like Kamala Harris now!
I have the new Alpinestars Tech 10 boots and Alpinestars Bionic 7 knee braces. Both are very good and when I ride I feel that I can move just like I want and they don´t restrict my movement at all. I can barely notice that I´m using these Bionic 7 knee braces so I will continue to use them in the future to protect my knees.
@@C_R_O_M________ I don’t think these knee braces will harm me anyway. They will protect my knees as many things can happen and you are not always able tocontrol everything. I feel like these are good protection.
Yes!.. The body is the most amazing creation, so that’s why I choose to have the added protection even if it did cost 2% speed or whatever. No matter how good your technique, body, or machine it’s not if you crash it’s when you crash.. ask any body who has been riding long enough. I appreciate your analysis though and think it’s valid, just maybe not for the average rider looking for longevity in the sport.
Excellent point!!! I remember back in the 80's after my first knee reconstruction, my surgeon said not to wear a knee brace. Reason is to build up lateral strength.
@@aaronmcelhinney1436 I had a knee arthroscopy ACL reconstruction they made a new AcL out of some hamstring tendon in the same leg and remove some of the lateral meniscus. They didn’t give me a brace after surgery but my mother asked for one just to be safe and It had degrees on it so I could tell how far I could flex it But after seeing my doctor this last week he said I can ditch the brace. yeehaw! 🤠
I love my mobius knee braces..pads with extra protection ..i think they help protect your knees better than not wearing them...i gotta work Monday..and i don't even notice them on..and i cant ride like ryno so i need every bit off help i can get
First its neck braces now it’s knee braces next he’s going to be making a video on why you should not wear a helmet. This is what happens when you have too many concussions
Ryan, after some really bad body burn and skin transplant, I rode less and less confident. Last week, after fixing my bike, I rode for a test, and went without anything : the stupid bermudas, tennis and tshirt. Even no helmet, I confess. I rediscovered handling, feel of bike, and many things. Won"t do it back on trails of course, but I now understand what you mean !!!
I'm curious if you have the same opinion around the newish wrist braces they have. What about neck braces? They don't seem to hinder movements so I assume they are good in your view.
Wow. What a scientific demonstration 😂. It's all about mitigating risk. I don't race or compete so whatever miniscule (if any) performance advantage I get from not wearing them is mute. Also depends on what braces you have. Mine don't restrict me at all (the inside hinges are narrower) and they help stabilize my knees, allowing me to better manipulate the bike. Also, they help distribute impacts from jump landings. They've already saved my bacon countless times. I have no health insurance so I'll stick to my braces. And people should be doing proper knee stabilization exercises OFF the bike to further reduce risk of knee injury.
If you’re a weekend warrior, like myself. Just fork out the coin for some reasonable braces. It’s a nice feeling, going to work on a Monday after Sunday riding, at the track.
That's actually a good point. I played ultimate Frisbee and I had rolled my ankles making them weak. So I braced them for several years and still had issues with rolling my ankles. Eventually the braces wore out and I didn't want to spend the big money on new ones so I just stopped wearing them and I feel so much better. Ankles are stronger than before and mobility is greater. I'll have to try out no knee braces next time I ride.
Hey Ryan, maybe I can add something to the conversation. I am a powerlifter and used to paused heavy squats daily up to 440lbs+ without bandages or anything. Only got a motorcycle, so in summer after standing 6hours outside I don't want to wear gear. So I don't. A car crashed into me at 50km/h. From a front/left angle into my leg. The doc was stunned I had no damage to the knee and did not break a bone. The contusion was so bad my leg swelled up to double it's size making it pretty impossible to bend. If I did you could hear the flesh grumbling. Blue and violet all over with neat open wounds. Nerves damaged and no feeling kneeling down anymore to this day. So I do think that heavy free weight training DOES make a huge impact. It may prep the joints more than we think I guess. Could have just been luck though. Just food for thought. Love your content. Phil
I like Ryans advice generally but here he is clearly wrong. The human knee is pretty delicate and ACL injuries are amongst the most common in MX. Roczen, Tomac, Dungey, Villipoto, Herlings they all wear kneebraces. Don't take em off because you think it will help your riding, what will ruin your riding more is sitting out a year with a torn ACL.
Ryan have you tried compression braces with side support? Instead of plastic? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this. Also, 99.9% of riders are somewhat out of shape weekend warriors or kids. So I think that should be clarified when talking about gear. Best.
Brilliant common sense this man posseses and intellect.my spirit likes him because of his upright knowledge and recognition the body was absolutly perfected designed and"created" and it not just "caused".i like that,asside the dirtbike part
Totally agree, took me years to finally tennis the handle bars and loosen up. BMX and slalom skiing was a major help on how I ride. Working on the balls of my feet with a medicine ball and building back my endurance.
So I actually agree with this train of though. I have broken the same knee twice while riding. On both occasions I was wearing braces. Braces may be good at stopping twist and extension but in my experience they are pretty poor at frontal impact protection. Most knee guards do a better job of impact protection. I've ridden now for the last 5 years without braces, guards only. I feel my riding improved without the braces. Unfortunately, I can't find a set of knee guards that stays in place and doesn't chafe. I ride enduro so normally I'm riding 4 to 5 hours at a time. Over the years I have dumped the body armour, chest protectors and elbow guards and I feel a lot more mobile and comfortable on the bike and my endurance is better. Unfortunately, in the rocky terrain I ride you will bash into something hard every now and again, so I have to have some form of impact protection for my knees. I've just gone back to set of braces, not because of the rigidity they give me but because I feel this brand has pretty good impact protection and they stay in place and don't chafe. But if I eventually manage to find a knee guard that stays in place, I'm definitely going back to guards.
I was wearing CTI braces when I tore my ACL....Doctor Purita told me No brace could have kept it from happening....braces are really only for hyper extension not twisting motion.....but you do you.
Hey ryno say if you have larger legs i feal that the knee brace can compres in to the muscle and move a little more than say your pro trying to be as light as possible I definitely think at top level when the guys not carrying mass probly inpeads more ? Definitely agree with neck brace prity shor broke my back from it dont were eny things for top half off body But feal like the knee brace on me feals little like running compression raps on heavy lifts cinda holds shit together And is your thoughts on the knee brace for safety or more the speed and efficiency I feel that the neek brace makes you less safe so i super important to say to people hey in some cases this may make it worse Cheers from great content you the boss
I’m newer to dirtbikes but with skateboarding I’ve never liked braces, super restricting and will get in the way of re strengthening injuries. By now I’ve learned that braces are only good for riding before your injury is healed all the way, which is less of an option the older I get.
The only why I use braces is because I blew my ACL ,no surgery here but coming back little by little. Blew it and wasn't using braces at all. Planted my foot , there was a root and janked my foot one way and my knee was still straight. I can run and cycle without braces,but on the dirtscooter I need them or my knee will scream at me as it moves differently from when I ride my road bicycle or run.🤷🏽♂️
How do the braces change the mobility? I wear guards for Enduro/woods, and yeah it's more weight and friction so less efficient, but I don't see how it necessarily prevents technique?
I wear flexible medical knee braces under my pants, and gel-filled kneecap braces on top of my pants. No rigid hinges, those are dangerous in a wreck. Knee braces keep old knees warm too. Enduro, no MX.
Came from a level of skiing most will not get to... and he is right... braces can limit strength development and the peak performance.. but I cant count in one hand the people I skiid with who would ever be elite enough to where a brace would actually hold them back. Same here. Now I ride my husqy and I wanna develop and practice the technique.. but I doubt I'll get to a point at this age with my schedule... to where I knee brace will hold me back... this goes for everyone. But he isnt wrong. Its just a matter of skill and priority and dedication.
Reading comments. Ryno has his strong beliefs. I am of the mind set close to his. If u have a huge get of at high speed any injury can happen, neck brace, knee braces may or may not save you. I wear a padded under shorts, thick volley ball style knee pads, helmet, boots. I believe in flexibility. I’m 52 I’ve had lots of injuries. I side with Rynos view
Man....Ryan isn’t saying to stop using knee bracing people. He is just saying you can have better control over the bike without them. You can choose to where them or not. He has 99% more experience on a MX bike than most the riders on the planet and this is his option.
It's all about the rider... You can have the greatest set up bike on the Planet but if you do not have mobility on it, that bike is gonna look like a scooter. Fine example?.....James Stewart wasn't riding, he was dancing on that bike, and the bike was dancing on that track. Ryno you are legend!
Look, braces might help some people, but I think you can ride better without them.... you can still blow out your ACL wearing the world's greatest knee-braces.... I know Windham never wore knee-braces and he has a style that most people would love to emulate. Like Ryan says, you gotta be positive about these things and see what you want, not be afraid of what you don't want. I really dig Ryan's philosophy on life... he has helped me and a lot of other people in facets of our life totally removed from MX.... oh and he's a world class rider and coach.
I have the mobius braces and I find I have a hard time feeling where my knees are. It is only after watching videos that I see my knees are out of place because I am generally "guessing" exactly where they are. I have never really thought of this. I have knee pads I am going to try and use.
I wear mobius and yeah it’s a little harder to squeeze the bike with knee braces in general, but just point your toes in and squeeze just a tad bit harder, and honestly if you just work on making sure your knees are good and you just do many reps of correct placement it’ll become natural, so you won’t even need to know where your knees are they’ll just be there, it’s like shooting a basketball you do enough reps with correct form, eventually you won’t even need to think about it anymore. But stay safe and ride on buddy.
I had a wreck happen with knee braces and the way my leg got twisted forced my knee into a weird angle inside the braces. Ended up being worse with the brace rather than if i didnt have them. I now only ride with the tp 199 evs knee pads/braces. Best decision i ever made.
One of the more unnatural effects we add to our knee injury potential is add a bunch of weight to our feet in the form of boots - then accelerate them by means of a motorcycle.
Nonsense, boots are just armor which won't affect any mobility which hinders technique. Proper technique beats braces in terms of safety. It's bad technique that injures you, not the lack of braces.
I have forgotten my braces from time to time and felt/rode way better and same with a neck brace after disregarding in 2002. I feel naked and insecure without my knee braces but need to relearn to grip with boots instead of knees. More seat time so I 💯% agree with RYNO
Too many knee injuries/surgeries without knee brace. I will take the extra protection. I am no pro/expert level MX anymore. I enjoy riding my dirt bike. However strong legs are prerequisite hamstrings, quads, calves.
Knowledge is for ego's and wisdom is for the one's who do the work. My ego says where knee pads cause I'm not going to put in the work to be the best I can be. But I love going riding with the boys and having a good time. Your a Boss Ryan
Everyone is going to have an opinion. Which theyre not an expert at but have had one experience. There is so many counter arguments in either direction. Weve seen braces work so good, the leg broke were the brace ended. For a doc to say it would have prevented, maybe, it's chance. If he says you'll never walk again and you do. Is he right about preventing? What Ryan is saying, you can train at a slower, lower, level or you're just that slow, you can take brace off to get your body muscle memory to take shape. Then put the braces back on when you're not training. If your training fast do what feels right for you, put your braces on. He shouldn't have to spell everything out. And sometimes he has so much knowledge it's articulated in a way that someone with more experience can decipher. I guess some ppl never got to use mad libs and fill in the blanks. If you got the muscle memory technique you body will adjust with braces on. It will not adjust if it doesn't know what it really needs to condition too. By the way braces were originally designed to prevent ACL, MCL, LCL, hyper extensions. I still tore my MCL with a brace on, speed and impact was that hard, brace was still intact. Dr Ting who someone of the road racers goto told me to train with braces off,to gain strength and what I need to when increasing my speed and intensity. Sorry it got long winded most ppl on here cant read words just trail maps and moto tracks. We all got a story, one thing in common, fuckin twist the throttle and part time pilots were in the air so dam much.
I appreciate knowledge and perspective, especially from someone with a lot of experience, but why does Ryno always come across so angry and bitter. Maybe it's just his personality, but the negative energy is palpable ... always.
I Broke my kneecaps due to a Motorcycle accident. The damn worst pain I ever experienced. I literally vomited because of the pain. I dont recommend Trading protection for comfort.
why I use a knee protector, and not a knee brace. I have all the mobility I need, while also protecting the front and (some of) the sides of my knees. I like the flesh on my skin, I also like feeling my bike. So there's my take. Best of both worlds, protection with maximum mobility (I can and do grip the bike harder and ride looser with protectors. Love em)
I’d been using custom CTi braces since 1999. Switched to TP199 (liner removed) after we rode together the first time last spring. The first couple rides were a bit vulnerable feeling and my legs were a little banged up. Wasn’t sure I’d be able to make the switch. After a few rides, I realized I had been putting my legs into more danger by wearing the braces... I’d recklessly stuff them into harms way, because subconsciously they were bulletproof. I feel great in the TP199 guard now. Seems like my legs get twisted up much less (probably because they can move out of the way) and the sides of my bikes don’t look like they got attacked by a Samurai. My feet/boots do all the bike gripping as a result too! I could see the knee braces being helpful post injury, but I don’t really see myself wearing them for prevention anymore. I bought a neck brace when I got back into riding. I hated how stiff it made me feel! It CAUSED me to crash 3 times due to freezing up my upper body and being off balance. You’d posted a video bitching about neck braces right when that happened. Imtook it off and never looked back. I did have one scary header I feel like it would have helped with, and I like the idea, but they do inhibit mobility in sketchy situations and likely put you into more. How many times have I NOT hit the ground because of taking it off? Increased time on the ground = increased risk.
@@travelingmike40 maybe you're on to something. But hey to each there own. After seeing Jason anderson crash at the finish line I invested in a neck brace. It only disturbs body position if it's not adjusted properly. As for knee braces, I thought the theory is to prevent twist and hypertension. it's better to break a bone below the knee than tear the actual knee.
The EVS TP199 are a nice durable knee shin guard that i use. I used to wear the pod knee braces but retired them to the TP199 and couldn't be more happy. I've had a knee rebuilt ACL and other stuff in there about 10 years ago and am still happy with just wearing a guard.
@@wideopenadventures4673 I dismissed the TP199 since I want to protect my knees against impact, like if someone T-bones me. For racing a soft pad is not good. If you ride alone, maybe.
I don't have any personal experience with the EVS TP199, but I usually hear good things about them. I have personal experience with the Leatt Dual Axis Knee Guards, and I really like them. All day comfortable, and no restriction on full bending. And the hard shell provides good impact protection.
Have never wore knee braces, never will. Besides hindering rider flexibility .....God made the upper leg, knee and lower leg, with tendons, cartilage and ligaments that can handle incredible trauma . The bones can flex with the ligaments far more before fracturing or breaking than people think. When you lock off the upper leg and lower leg restrictions movement at the joint (knee) in between, that stress and trauma now puts the femur and lower leg in jeopardy of breaking. God knows what he is doing to make the body resilient without strapping a man made devise on it !
The body isn't perfect, the knee is a design disaster. So is the recurrent laryngeal nerve. Our retinas are on backwards. Plenty wrong with the body. There's a word for ignoring expert claims you know is wrong and then trusting everything else they say. Unfortunately I forget it. I should probably add, I don't wear a knee brace but not for your reasons.
No knee brace rider is able to bow his knees in allowing him to control the bike with his lower body which in turn makes for much better flow through the corners. Knee brace rider doesn't have as much freedom with his knees to grip the bike, thus not as much flow.
What's your opinion on wearing a condom if you're into serial Tinder dating ? I could never not wear knee braces, now that I have invested in good ones (Mobius), I'll live with feeling awkward, on the bike. Anyway I enjoy the channel and content, thank you!
Some great discussion here. As a life long dirt bike rider and also Kart racer AND happen to be a Physical Therapist who treats a lot of patients with knee injuries/surgeries, I have always had mixed emotions about things like knee braces and neck protectors. Let’s clear something up first, the knee is THE most imperfect joint designed on an incredible machine (the Body). That being said, I have always felt like a knee brace causes an athlete to move differently than without a brace. I don’t care if it is double hinged, “anatomically correct” custom fitment, Costa $2k, etc, etc. it simply makes you move differently and part of it is that there is a small amount of rotation at the knee at the transverse plane (longitudinal axis), mostly at terminal knee flexion. There is also a small amount of glide in all directions at the knee joint. When you simply strap on a brace that moves like a true hinge joint (or 2 of them on each side) this does NOT mimic normal biomechanics in the body. That isn’t even getting into how the body reacts to something strapped on you that adds more weight, more bulk and it foreign to you. If you someone that has a hx of ACL tears and you crash a lot, I might be more inclined to recommend someone use them. If you are you, healthy, fit, practice a lot, and no history of knee injuries, I’d probably recommend not using them. On a similar note, neck “protection” is not generally accepted as a device that will reduce neck injuries in an accident. They “might” provide “some additional” protection to the neck in “certain circumstances”. The research is so none conclusive that some racing bodies require it and others don’t. I wear them when racing my kart when I have to, and I don’t when it isn’t required.
Never wore them my hole 12 years racing motocross the 6 year military 2 tours didn't understand them unless u had knee problems i didn't and they wouldn't save u form getting hurt
Who still use knee brace if you’re going to crash your still gonna break a leg if Kevin windham never used a knee brace why should anyone Kevin would bend his radiators back from how much he would grip the bike with his knees so everyone please listen to ryno #105
Good brain food. Well I'll try to ride unbraced when I'm doing some exercises, I think it will helps to understand something new. But race without knee braces - hell no :)
Oh my goodness. Someone who understands that isolation of joints in the body is like insurance when it comes to safety.. that stuff is false economy. Train and work on neutral balance and strength.. be proactive or ride inhibited.. that is proactive safety!
You rock brah! Insurance is after one eats it! Sometimes safety equipment is honestly an impairment and can cause more detriment for a rider. People sometimes don't understand the importance of conditioning over safety equipment because they think they can buy safety like insurance but place a lower value on just working for skill .. thanks brah! I'm teaching my son on this same basic approach. He's not hitting the ground and he looks great.
Ryan Hughes brings up things that people do not want to hear in a community (moto) which is I’m sorry made up of a lot of people who are not so bright so the conversations a lot of times reflect that, when oneone starts up on subjects like this. But why this dude catches so much flack is because he gives off a very strong arrogant attitude towards his points of views and his opinions, people don’t hate on what he teaches they hate on how he only see’s something one way his way. I personally like the guy and don’t mind it but a dude with his condescending tone will always get people not agreeing just because of the way he says it.
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I would like to see the same rider, without knee braces and with braces compared.
Was thinking the same thing.
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Agreed. This proves nothing...
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I believe that so many riders think the same that they don't need the brace, until they got injured to their knees.
This guy is the Roger Decoster of today. Everyone is always thinking about the motorcycle, meantime, we all know it’s 90% rider, 10% motorcycle. Thank you, Ryan - for your amazing information and insight.
Helmet and boots are somehow limiting the rider as well, will you ride without?
I'm an A-class racer, I know how to ride and up until January I never wore a knee brace I always said oh ill eventually get them, well I was at a track and overshot a corner and hyperextended my knee and two months later it's finally about 75% healed and I'm just now being able to exercise medically and ride again. My advice to you just shell out the few hundred dollars, it's worth the pain you will avoid, and possible long term implications.
Lap times to post pre and post knee brace?
Well now you really need it, you didnt need it before😭
I just bought my first knee brace and I rode with it only for a few laps and I ditch it and went back to the knee shin guard protection. Omg what a big difference. I enjoyed riding again and the mobility is really important to me. Thanks Ryan.
Well.... my thoughts are this. i was riding with relatively good technique on an indoor track, the track was tight and the lanes on the track parallel each other in opposite directions. As I was riding I panicked because I was afraid I was going to run into someone else so when I went off a jump and started to go the direction of the other person I quickly leaned the other way to avoid them and went straight into the ground feet first and my leg twisted pretty badly. Doctors all said that if I had braced my knee I either would have walked away with a few bruises and some scratches or I would not have injured it quite near as badly. The investment is minor and truly for most of us that ride are not riding at a high level where we need to perform at our best in order to pay the bills. But instead we all work 5 days a week to be able to ride on Saturday or Sunday a few times a month. This knee injury took me out of work for three weeks and out of riding for a few months and now when I go back to work I’m limited on what I can do for another month or two. Buy the braces, wear the braces, except the inconvenience they give you when you ride because your knees will thank you when you’re 30-40-50-60 years old and you’ll be happy you can go to work every day and walk lol it’s worth it
your missing the point
ha-ha. Your post is what those who sell us the braces for 1000$(sometimes for each leg) say!) The mistakes of your thinking are those:
- motocross is a risky sport and you can not get protection for everything
- How many times in your career You crashed so that exactly the specifics of the braces construction helped You to survive rather than the regular good-quality kneepads?
- how many times your natural leg musles-stabilisers helped You to avoid the really hard crashes that could deliver the damage that no kneebrace can help?
Of course. Nothing is better then training for the knees to protect them. But it never is wrong to have more protection if it doesn't limit your mobility. So many unaspekted can happen in life in generell. And we all need good skills and shurly good luck too. And protection is protection.
@@lotharluder2743 no. That is wrong. You always have to keap the balance between protection and mobility. For example the vast majority of the mx-riders don't wear the elbow pads even they are 100% impact on almost each fall and many adult riders are rejecting the neck protectoк because it makes the riding dramaticaly more uncomfortable.
If You want to be 100% protected than only the deep underwater siut may be enough. Or You have to quit motospot.
As one our coach said - motosport is so risky, that You are risking while riding, risking when You came close to the bike and even when You came to watch motocross You are already risking,
@@lotharluder2743 The main problem is that they don't give that much protection as it is advertised. Unless they are nailed to your bones and can not rotate with your skin)
"What you don't use you loose". Prior orthopedic surgical PA here. Felt obligated to comment. The knee is a hinge type synovial joint, mainly extension and flexion. A knee brace prevents hyperextension, medial and lateral movement. Theses are unnatural movements for the knee and CAN cause injury to collateral ligaments that are crucial to keep a stable joint. You will not loose muscle because your natural movement is not very limited. You are still recruiting the muscle fibers to control flexion and extension. Also the comment on impact is false. You can get OA and joint space narrowing from repetitive low impact that is much less, including running. Loss of mobility? maybe slightly if that is the main point. Make sure to educate self, before you educate. Ride on buddy, well done, Cheers!!!
As an enduro rider myself, comparing skiers to moto doesn't make much sense. I bash myself into my braces a ton, and feel naked riding without them. If I road on a track I might only wear pads and leave the braces in the truck.
You’re missing the point he is saying. With knee braces, you lose movement which will help you control the bike. He is speaking for marking your body as mobile as possible to gain that extra 1/10th of a second with racing.
You just out doing enduro as a hobby does not really apply to what he is saying.
@@troysawyers9781
That makes sense. I suppose his target audience are those looking to shave off as much lap time as possible.
I'm looking to extend the amount of time I'm able to simply mount a bike. lol. Life is short, and good bones have an even shorter shelf life.
@@MDHaughton Technique beats braces 10 times out of 10. Good technique will prevent injuries that bad technique w/braces won't.
I can still bend my knees in braces in the way they are meant to when you ride. I think they help me grip the bike better too. You don’t have to crash to damaged a joint or ligament could happen when you catch it on a rut for example. I got work Monday I’ll be keeping my braces for now lol only been riding a few months maybe when I’ve got more confidence 👌😂
Got to work on Monday as well. Ditched my braces a year ago and never looked back. But what’s true is that I try to keep my feet on the pegs as much as possible.
He never told you to stop wearing them big guy and you do not have good technique if you are worried about catching your foot in a rut. If you don’t understand what he is saying you need to get off your seat and try grabbing 2nd next for once.
Nate 104 nah your right. Got shit technique. Starting Mx when your nearly 30 probably ain’t the best idea. From the vids I’ve seen about stories of minor crashes where acl have been snapped and people braking their necks which could possibly have been prevented from wearing a bit of protective gear. No need to get shirty “big man”. Just sticking my 50p worth in lol and they 💯 help grip the bike better. plus u don’t notice them after a few rides
@@charlieprior5604 respect for to learning how to ride at an older age better late than never man. Im a not far off 30 myself and I’ve been riding for over 20 years and I’ve seen and lived some horror stories at the track lol. Protective gear only helps to an extent and can limit your movement which can limit your ability to ride the bike so you can use your body the way you need to. At the end of the day work on balance and using good form and keep your feet on the pegs and you’ll fall less and less. Also riding without braces helps you grip wayyy more. Have a good one big guy. Lol
Nate 104 haha thanks for the advice and you bro 👍
I’m sure there is some truth to what you’re saying, but there are certain injuries that can be prevented by wearing knee braces. I tore my ACL without knee braces while suffering an extreme hyper extension, which a knee brace would have prevented. The “natural” argument flaw is that we’re adding more speed & momentum when we ride than what our bodies were designed for. My knee braces are properly fitted, and don’t hamper my riding. I don’t wear them off the bike, though, to keep the muscles, tendons, & ligaments strong.
" which a knee brace would have prevented."
>> Have you tested this theory in a parallel universe? How do you know what would have been? Damn, I sound like Kamala Harris now!
I have the new Alpinestars Tech 10 boots and Alpinestars Bionic 7 knee braces. Both are very good and when I ride I feel that I can move just like I want and they don´t restrict my movement at all. I can barely notice that I´m using these Bionic 7 knee braces so I will continue to use them in the future to protect my knees.
You better practice your technique if you want to be spared of injuries. Technique is the key for safety, not braces.
@@C_R_O_M________ I don’t think these knee braces will harm me anyway. They will protect my knees as many things can happen and you are not always able tocontrol everything. I feel like these are good protection.
Yes!.. The body is the most amazing creation, so that’s why I choose to have the added protection even if it did cost 2% speed or whatever. No matter how good your technique, body, or machine it’s not if you crash it’s when you crash.. ask any body who has been riding long enough. I appreciate your analysis though and think it’s valid, just maybe not for the average rider looking for longevity in the sport.
Excellent point!!! I remember back in the 80's after my first knee reconstruction, my surgeon said not to wear a knee brace. Reason is to build up lateral strength.
That was the 80’s. Current medical knowledge has improved since then.
@@aaronmcelhinney1436 I had a knee arthroscopy ACL reconstruction they made a new AcL out of some hamstring tendon in the same leg and remove some of the lateral meniscus. They didn’t give me a brace after surgery but my mother asked for one just to be safe and It had degrees on it so I could tell how far I could flex it But after seeing my doctor this last week he said I can ditch the brace. yeehaw! 🤠
I love my mobius knee braces..pads with extra protection ..i think they help protect your knees better than not wearing them...i gotta work Monday..and i don't even notice them on..and i cant ride like ryno so i need every bit off help i can get
First its neck braces now it’s knee braces next he’s going to be making a video on why you should not wear a helmet. This is what happens when you have too many concussions
Ryan, after some really bad body burn and skin transplant, I rode less and less confident. Last week, after fixing my bike, I rode for a test, and went without anything : the stupid bermudas, tennis and tshirt. Even no helmet, I confess. I rediscovered handling, feel of bike, and many things. Won"t do it back on trails of course, but I now understand what you mean !!!
Definitely love my knee braces and yes they can attached to the boot with a tether or strap to prevent your knee from twisting in or out
I'm curious if you have the same opinion around the newish wrist braces they have.
What about neck braces? They don't seem to hinder movements so I assume they are good in your view.
Wow. What a scientific demonstration 😂. It's all about mitigating risk. I don't race or compete so whatever miniscule (if any) performance advantage I get from not wearing them is mute. Also depends on what braces you have. Mine don't restrict me at all (the inside hinges are narrower) and they help stabilize my knees, allowing me to better manipulate the bike. Also, they help distribute impacts from jump landings. They've already saved my bacon countless times. I have no health insurance so I'll stick to my braces.
And people should be doing proper knee stabilization exercises OFF the bike to further reduce risk of knee injury.
Unbelievable! I still have some respect for you ryno.
Hell yes thank you ryno love your insight im getting back into motocross and look forward to using all your techniques tips
If you’re a weekend warrior, like myself. Just fork out the coin for some reasonable braces.
It’s a nice feeling, going to work on a Monday after Sunday riding, at the track.
That's actually a good point. I played ultimate Frisbee and I had rolled my ankles making them weak. So I braced them for several years and still had issues with rolling my ankles. Eventually the braces wore out and I didn't want to spend the big money on new ones so I just stopped wearing them and I feel so much better. Ankles are stronger than before and mobility is greater.
I'll have to try out no knee braces next time I ride.
This man is the heisenberg of motocross!!!
All braces do is stiffen, reduce movement and move the impact to a different part of the body.
Hey Ryan, maybe I can add something to the conversation. I am a powerlifter and used to paused heavy squats daily up to 440lbs+ without bandages or anything. Only got a motorcycle, so in summer after standing 6hours outside I don't want to wear gear. So I don't. A car crashed into me at 50km/h. From a front/left angle into my leg. The doc was stunned I had no damage to the knee and did not break a bone. The contusion was so bad my leg swelled up to double it's size making it pretty impossible to bend. If I did you could hear the flesh grumbling. Blue and violet all over with neat open wounds. Nerves damaged and no feeling kneeling down anymore to this day. So I do think that heavy free weight training DOES make a huge impact. It may prep the joints more than we think I guess. Could have just been luck though. Just food for thought. Love your content. Phil
I like Ryans advice generally but here he is clearly wrong. The human knee is pretty delicate and ACL injuries are amongst the most common in MX. Roczen, Tomac, Dungey, Villipoto, Herlings they all wear kneebraces. Don't take em off because you think it will help your riding, what will ruin your riding more is sitting out a year with a torn ACL.
Ryan have you tried compression braces with side support? Instead of plastic? It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this. Also, 99.9% of riders are somewhat out of shape weekend warriors or kids. So I think that should be clarified when talking about gear. Best.
Brilliant common sense this man posseses and intellect.my spirit likes him because of his upright knowledge and recognition the body was absolutly perfected designed and"created" and it not just "caused".i like that,asside the dirtbike part
Totally agree, took me years to finally tennis the handle bars and loosen up. BMX and slalom skiing was a major help on how I ride. Working on the balls of my feet with a medicine ball and building back my endurance.
So I actually agree with this train of though. I have broken the same knee twice while riding. On both occasions I was wearing braces. Braces may be good at stopping twist and extension but in my experience they are pretty poor at frontal impact protection. Most knee guards do a better job of impact protection. I've ridden now for the last 5 years without braces, guards only. I feel my riding improved without the braces. Unfortunately, I can't find a set of knee guards that stays in place and doesn't chafe. I ride enduro so normally I'm riding 4 to 5 hours at a time. Over the years I have dumped the body armour, chest protectors and elbow guards and I feel a lot more mobile and comfortable on the bike and my endurance is better. Unfortunately, in the rocky terrain I ride you will bash into something hard every now and again, so I have to have some form of impact protection for my knees. I've just gone back to set of braces, not because of the rigidity they give me but because I feel this brand has pretty good impact protection and they stay in place and don't chafe. But if I eventually manage to find a knee guard that stays in place, I'm definitely going back to guards.
I was wearing CTI braces when I tore my ACL....Doctor Purita told me No brace could have kept it from happening....braces are really only for hyper extension not twisting motion.....but you do you.
i wasnt wearing brace when i tore my acl and meniscus. kneebrace might have saved my acl, now i have POD-s, 2 more months to recover
Hey ryno say if you have larger legs i feal that the knee brace can compres in to the muscle and move a little more than say your pro trying to be as light as possible
I definitely think at top level when the guys not carrying mass probly inpeads more ?
Definitely agree with neck brace prity shor broke my back from it dont were eny things for top half off body
But feal like the knee brace on me feals little like running compression raps on heavy lifts cinda holds shit together
And is your thoughts on the knee brace for safety or more the speed and efficiency
I feel that the neek brace makes you less safe so i super important to say to people hey in some cases this may make it worse
Cheers from great content you the boss
It has been said there is no ppe that can totally protect an incompetent and Likewise skill is the best safety
I’m newer to dirtbikes but with skateboarding I’ve never liked braces, super restricting and will get in the way of re strengthening injuries. By now I’ve learned that braces are only good for riding before your injury is healed all the way, which is less of an option the older I get.
The only why I use braces is because I blew my ACL ,no surgery here but coming back little by little. Blew it and wasn't using braces at all. Planted my foot , there was a root and janked my foot one way and my knee was still straight. I can run and cycle without braces,but on the dirtscooter I need them or my knee will scream at me as it moves differently from when I ride my road bicycle or run.🤷🏽♂️
How do the braces change the mobility? I wear guards for Enduro/woods, and yeah it's more weight and friction so less efficient, but I don't see how it necessarily prevents technique?
I wear flexible medical knee braces under my pants, and gel-filled kneecap braces on top of my pants. No rigid hinges, those are dangerous in a wreck. Knee braces keep old knees warm too. Enduro, no MX.
Came from a level of skiing most will not get to... and he is right... braces can limit strength development and the peak performance.. but I cant count in one hand the people I skiid with who would ever be elite enough to where a brace would actually hold them back. Same here. Now I ride my husqy and I wanna develop and practice the technique.. but I doubt I'll get to a point at this age with my schedule... to where I knee brace will hold me back... this goes for everyone. But he isnt wrong. Its just a matter of skill and priority and dedication.
Reading comments. Ryno has his strong beliefs. I am of the mind set close to his. If u have a huge get of at high speed any injury can happen, neck brace, knee braces may or may not save you. I wear a padded under shorts, thick volley ball style knee pads, helmet, boots. I believe in flexibility. I’m 52 I’ve had lots of injuries. I side with Rynos view
Right on, no fear .
Man....Ryan isn’t saying to stop using knee bracing people. He is just saying you can have better control over the bike without them. You can choose to where them or not.
He has 99% more experience on a MX bike than most the riders on the planet and this is his option.
It's all about the rider...
You can have the greatest set up bike on the Planet but if you do not have mobility on it, that bike is gonna look like a scooter.
Fine example?.....James Stewart wasn't riding, he was dancing on that bike, and the bike was dancing on that track.
Ryno you are legend!
Look, braces might help some people, but I think you can ride better without them.... you can still blow out your ACL wearing the world's greatest knee-braces.... I know Windham never wore knee-braces and he has a style that most people would love to emulate. Like Ryan says, you gotta be positive about these things and see what you want, not be afraid of what you don't want. I really dig Ryan's philosophy on life... he has helped me and a lot of other people in facets of our life totally removed from MX.... oh and he's a world class rider and coach.
I have the mobius braces and I find I have a hard time feeling where my knees are. It is only after watching videos that I see my knees are out of place because I am generally "guessing" exactly where they are. I have never really thought of this. I have knee pads I am going to try and use.
I wear mobius and yeah it’s a little harder to squeeze the bike with knee braces in general, but just point your toes in and squeeze just a tad bit harder, and honestly if you just work on making sure your knees are good and you just do many reps of correct placement it’ll become natural, so you won’t even need to know where your knees are they’ll just be there, it’s like shooting a basketball you do enough reps with correct form, eventually you won’t even need to think about it anymore. But stay safe and ride on buddy.
I had a wreck happen with knee braces and the way my leg got twisted forced my knee into a weird angle inside the braces. Ended up being worse with the brace rather than if i didnt have them. I now only ride with the tp 199 evs knee pads/braces. Best decision i ever made.
Noah Viney #43 is a badass on the supermini.
never used knees or neck braces and never will. Talked to a surgeon once, horrible stories about accidents with braces.
I got 2 blown acls I rely on braces %100 unfortunately.
Spittin truth.
One of the more unnatural effects we add to our knee injury potential is add a bunch of weight to our feet in the form of boots - then accelerate them by means of a motorcycle.
Nonsense, boots are just armor which won't affect any mobility which hinders technique. Proper technique beats braces in terms of safety. It's bad technique that injures you, not the lack of braces.
I have forgotten my braces from time to time and felt/rode way better and same with a neck brace after disregarding in 2002.
I feel naked and insecure without my knee braces but need to relearn to grip with boots instead of knees. More seat time so
I 💯% agree with RYNO
Makes it much easier to grip at the boots because the knees are no longer the widest point which pinch first.
Too many knee injuries/surgeries without knee brace. I will take the extra protection. I am no pro/expert level MX anymore. I enjoy riding my dirt bike. However strong legs are prerequisite hamstrings, quads, calves.
Stop taking DMT dude
People try to be to damn Philosophical now days
Knowledge is for ego's and wisdom is for the one's who do the work. My ego says where knee pads cause I'm not going to put in the work to be the best I can be. But I love going riding with the boys and having a good time. Your a Boss Ryan
Good info man
Everyone is going to have an opinion. Which theyre not an expert at but have had one experience. There is so many counter arguments in either direction.
Weve seen braces work so good, the leg broke were the brace ended. For a doc to say it would have prevented, maybe, it's chance. If he says you'll never walk again and you do. Is he right about preventing?
What Ryan is saying, you can train at a slower, lower, level or you're just that slow, you can take brace off to get your body muscle memory to take shape. Then put the braces back on when you're not training. If your training fast do what feels right for you, put your braces on. He shouldn't have to spell everything out. And sometimes he has so much knowledge it's articulated in a way that someone with more experience can decipher.
I guess some ppl never got to use mad libs and fill in the blanks. If you got the muscle memory technique you body will adjust with braces on. It will not adjust if it doesn't know what it really needs to condition too.
By the way braces were originally designed to prevent ACL, MCL, LCL, hyper extensions. I still tore my MCL with a brace on, speed and impact was that hard, brace was still intact. Dr Ting who someone of the road racers goto told me to train with braces off,to gain strength and what I need to when increasing my speed and intensity.
Sorry it got long winded most ppl on here cant read words just trail maps and moto tracks. We all got a story, one thing in common, fuckin twist the throttle and part time pilots were in the air so dam much.
Dude you should come up to Wyvern track in Piru
I appreciate knowledge and perspective, especially from someone with a lot of experience, but why does Ryno always come across so angry and bitter. Maybe it's just his personality, but the negative energy is palpable ... always.
Young Grasshopper🦗, Ryan is the minister of motocross. serious. Focused. Intense! Like Repo Man.... Intense!
he's radical..just his nature
At least I’m not the only one. He definitely burns a little hot.
Geez Ryno how many bongs before this video dude? Holy shit!
Yeah well skiers don’t have a 220lb motorcycle in between their legs waiting to pummel the perfect human body?🤔 you dress for the crash.
I just came for the comments.
Idk the kid without knee braces just looks more comfortable
I Broke my kneecaps due to a Motorcycle accident. The damn worst pain I ever experienced. I literally vomited because of the pain. I dont recommend Trading protection for comfort.
why I use a knee protector, and not a knee brace. I have all the mobility I need, while also protecting the front and (some of) the sides of my knees. I like the flesh on my skin, I also like feeling my bike. So there's my take. Best of both worlds, protection with maximum mobility (I can and do grip the bike harder and ride looser with protectors. Love em)
I’m alive today because of my knee brace if I didn’t have them I would have tore my main artery in my leg we spend so much on bikes invest in yourself
How do you know you would have torn it if you didn’t?
My surgeon told me my mcl was torn badly the knee brace broke I swear by my braces I spend a lot on my bike I believe in investing in my self .
I’d been using custom CTi braces since 1999. Switched to TP199 (liner removed) after we rode together the first time last spring.
The first couple rides were a bit vulnerable feeling and my legs were a little banged up. Wasn’t sure I’d be able to make the switch. After a few rides, I realized I had been putting my legs into more danger by wearing the braces... I’d recklessly stuff them into harms way, because subconsciously they were bulletproof. I feel great in the TP199 guard now. Seems like my legs get twisted up much less (probably because they can move out of the way) and the sides of my bikes don’t look like they got attacked by a Samurai. My feet/boots do all the bike gripping as a result too! I could see the knee braces being helpful post injury, but I don’t really see myself wearing them for prevention anymore.
I bought a neck brace when I got back into riding. I hated how stiff it made me feel! It CAUSED me to crash 3 times due to freezing up my upper body and being off balance. You’d posted a video bitching about neck braces right when that happened. Imtook it off and never looked back. I did have one scary header I feel like it would have helped with, and I like the idea, but they do inhibit mobility in sketchy situations and likely put you into more. How many times have I NOT hit the ground because of taking it off? Increased time on the ground = increased risk.
Next: Helmet vs no Helmet.
No neck brace, no knee brace...why not wear flip flops with titanium footpegs.
Yes, I was thinking how much boots limit movement and feel. Light weight running shoes- lol.
@@travelingmike40 maybe you're on to something. But hey to each there own. After seeing Jason anderson crash at the finish line I invested in a neck brace. It only disturbs body position if it's not adjusted properly. As for knee braces, I thought the theory is to prevent twist and hypertension. it's better to break a bone below the knee than tear the actual knee.
One foot down and can damage a knee, and after what? 🧐
What would be a good knee guard to use or knee pad?
The EVS TP199 are a nice durable knee shin guard that i use. I used to wear the pod knee braces but retired them to the TP199 and couldn't be more happy. I've had a knee rebuilt ACL and other stuff in there about 10 years ago and am still happy with just wearing a guard.
Take a look at the Alpinestars. Don’t remember the name, they are all perforated, around 100 bucks.
@@wideopenadventures4673 I dismissed the TP199 since I want to protect my knees against impact, like if someone T-bones me. For racing a soft pad is not good. If you ride alone, maybe.
Fox Titan pads saved me from split kneecaps, stuck with them since
I don't have any personal experience with the EVS TP199, but I usually hear good things about them. I have personal experience with the Leatt Dual Axis Knee Guards, and I really like them. All day comfortable, and no restriction on full bending. And the hard shell provides good impact protection.
Have never wore knee braces, never will. Besides hindering rider flexibility .....God made the upper leg, knee and lower leg, with tendons, cartilage and ligaments that can handle incredible trauma . The bones can flex with the ligaments far more before fracturing or breaking than people think. When you lock off the upper leg and lower leg restrictions movement at the joint (knee) in between, that stress and trauma now puts the femur and lower leg in jeopardy of breaking. God knows what he is doing to make the body resilient without strapping a man made devise on it !
The body isn't perfect, the knee is a design disaster. So is the recurrent laryngeal nerve. Our retinas are on backwards. Plenty wrong with the body.
There's a word for ignoring expert claims you know is wrong and then trusting everything else they say. Unfortunately I forget it.
I should probably add, I don't wear a knee brace but not for your reasons.
No knee brace rider is able to bow his knees in allowing him to control the bike with his lower body which in turn makes for much better flow through the corners. Knee brace rider doesn't have as much freedom with his knees to grip the bike, thus not as much flow.
4:37 end of story.
I'll keep wearing knee braces because I'm not a pro rider.
What's your opinion on wearing a condom if you're into serial Tinder dating ?
I could never not wear knee braces, now that I have invested in good ones (Mobius), I'll live with feeling awkward, on the bike.
Anyway I enjoy the channel and content, thank you!
Different riders? Thats a stupid comparison..
Braces for me, top pros in the world can use them and still win so guess Dosnt matter
Some great discussion here. As a life long dirt bike rider and also Kart racer AND happen to be a Physical Therapist who treats a lot of patients with knee injuries/surgeries, I have always had mixed emotions about things like knee braces and neck protectors. Let’s clear something up first, the knee is THE most imperfect joint designed on an incredible machine (the Body). That being said, I have always felt like a knee brace causes an athlete to move differently than without a brace. I don’t care if it is double hinged, “anatomically correct” custom fitment, Costa $2k, etc, etc. it simply makes you move differently and part of it is that there is a small amount of rotation at the knee at the transverse plane (longitudinal axis), mostly at terminal knee flexion. There is also a small amount of glide in all directions at the knee joint. When you simply strap on a brace that moves like a true hinge joint (or 2 of them on each side) this does NOT mimic normal biomechanics in the body. That isn’t even getting into how the body reacts to something strapped on you that adds more weight, more bulk and it foreign to you. If you someone that has a hx of ACL tears and you crash a lot, I might be more inclined to recommend someone use them. If you are you, healthy, fit, practice a lot, and no history of knee injuries, I’d probably recommend not using them. On a similar note, neck “protection” is not generally accepted as a device that will reduce neck injuries in an accident. They “might” provide “some additional” protection to the neck in “certain circumstances”. The research is so none conclusive that some racing bodies require it and others don’t. I wear them when racing my kart when I have to, and I don’t when it isn’t required.
Plenty of pros on the line with no knee braces. They're not going to advertise it because it's an advantage.
But there are a number of them have knee braces.
depends if u got bad knees i guess lol
Knee braces are worth there weight in gold. To bad they don't come with shatter free brace's.
Never wore them my hole 12 years racing motocross the 6 year military 2 tours didn't understand them unless u had knee problems i didn't and they wouldn't save u form getting hurt
This may be the best motocross coach of this generation
The Ted Nugent of Motocross!
I have been trying to recall who he reminds me of ALL DAY! Yup, Nugent! Love 'em both for different reasons!
Holy shit!! You nailed it! They speak similarly and don’t give a FUCK what anyone thinks of them ! Hahaha
Needs to be the same rider for comparison.
I tell you what, I like this guy, just saying motor on.
I totally agree except someone like me who has had knee surgery on both sides LOL
Love this and this is facts.
Thx Ryan 👍🏻✅
Who still use knee brace if you’re going to crash your still gonna break a leg if Kevin windham never used a knee brace why should anyone Kevin would bend his radiators back from how much he would grip the bike with his knees so everyone please listen to ryno #105
Helmet or no helmet that is the question. All jk aside very interesting video.
Good brain food. Well I'll try to ride unbraced when I'm doing some exercises, I think it will helps to understand something new. But race without knee braces - hell no :)
Oh my goodness. Someone who understands that isolation of joints in the body is like insurance when it comes to safety.. that stuff is false economy. Train and work on neutral balance and strength.. be proactive or ride inhibited.. that is proactive safety!
You rock brah! Insurance is after one eats it! Sometimes safety equipment is honestly an impairment and can cause more detriment for a rider. People sometimes don't understand the importance of conditioning over safety equipment because they think they can buy safety like insurance but place a lower value on just working for skill .. thanks brah! I'm teaching my son on this same basic approach. He's not hitting the ground and he looks great.
Ryan Hughes brings up things that people do not want to hear in a community (moto) which is I’m sorry made up of a lot of people who are not so bright so the conversations a lot of times reflect that, when oneone starts up on subjects like this. But why this dude catches so much flack is because he gives off a very strong arrogant attitude towards his points of views and his opinions, people don’t hate on what he teaches they hate on how he only see’s something one way his way. I personally like the guy and don’t mind it but a dude with his condescending tone will always get people not agreeing just because of the way he says it.
Why don't you ride with shoes
You are very good at probing ones mind. Perhaps I’ll try the next practice day without braces!
Like u but sometimes you make little sence , this is one of them times ,if u can prevent some thing ,your human brain says yes dah, yes knee braces
I agree with you. Any brace hinders your movements. Thanks for being a man and letting people know how to improve their riding.
Dude seems so pissed. 🙂
Knee guards/pads > Knee braces