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  • Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
  • "On the 24th May, 1964, a football match in the Estadio Nacional stadium in Lima came to a halt as the referee disallowed a goal..."
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    CHAPTERS:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:39 - Background
    02:02 - The Estadio Nacional Disaster
    07:51 - The Aftermath
    MUSIC:
    ► "Glass Pond" by Public Memory
    SOURCES:
    ► "National Stadium: what was the tragedy of 1964 that caused the death of 328 people?" by Pamela Arroyo, published by La Republica, October 2022. Link: larepublica.pe/datos-lr/histo...
    ► "Peru: A Crashing of Mountains" published by Time Magazine, June 1964. Link: content.time.com/time/subscri...
    ► "Hundreds dead in stampede at football match" published by The Guardian, May 1964. Available via: www.theguardian.com/football/...
    ► "Lima 1964: The world's worst stadium disaster" by Piers Edwards, published by BBC News, May 2014. Link: www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-2...
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Комментарии • 770

  • @reachandler3655
    @reachandler3655 4 месяца назад +1305

    The investigator was fined for suggesting evidence of a cover up?! Why give him the job if they didn't want him to do it? The fact they threw out his findings and never reopened the investigation certainly suggests there was a coverup.

    • @nlwilson4892
      @nlwilson4892 4 месяца назад +83

      It is perfectly normal to initiate and investigation to prove the authorities did nothing wrong. Usually they manage to appoint a judge or investigator that will be lazy enough not to spot the cover-up.

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 4 месяца назад +153

      He was supposed to produce a specific explanation that the corrupt government demanded. He tried to be honest and was punished for it.

    • @ginmar8134
      @ginmar8134 4 месяца назад +20

      The report was late and he didn't attend any autopsies, so how could he know what they died of?

    • @Blanco8x8
      @Blanco8x8 4 месяца назад

      Latin America was full of corrupt governments. Not surprised that the investigation was thrown out.

    • @Plasmastorm73_n5evv
      @Plasmastorm73_n5evv 4 месяца назад

      @@ginmar8134 There's these things called CORONER'S REPORTS...

  • @VillaFanDan92
    @VillaFanDan92 4 месяца назад +957

    This incident was one of a few that led FIFA to ban the use of tear gas as a weapon against any violence in football stands. It doesn't specifically target violent fans, and just causes mass panic. Despite that, there was an almost identical disaster in Indonesia in 2022, where 135 people died because of fans escaping tear gas only to be met with locked gates. In this case, the gates were apparently locked because they were worried about people sneaking into the stadium without tickets.

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 4 месяца назад +16

      Shame the Parisian police didn’t realised that before the Champions League match in 2022.

    • @nancyvillines4552
      @nancyvillines4552 4 месяца назад +52

      It always comes down to money in the end. It took the Who concert death's to get rid of general admission. I remember going to a concert with my brother and holding onto his belt loop so I didn't get lost. It was scary even before the Who concert happened. I just held on tight.

    • @marvinidler2289
      @marvinidler2289 4 месяца назад

      The FIFA never used tear gas and can't ban it. They have no jurisdiction in any stadium. It is the decision of the local police and authorities.

    • @trigularity
      @trigularity 4 месяца назад

      the reason this happens is because brown nation people cannot adequadely deal with the stress of ball games

    • @Varangian_af_Scaniae
      @Varangian_af_Scaniae 4 месяца назад +17

      @@nancyvillines4552 "to get rid of general admission"
      What do you mean? I have been to like 50 concerts between 1995-2015 and the plain field infront of the scene is always general admission.

  • @aileencastaneda3724
    @aileencastaneda3724 4 месяца назад +312

    The police were escalating the situation and it’s so unfair that the investigator was fined. It’s so ludicrous and ridiculous, it’s definitely a cover up.

    • @dannydougin3925
      @dannydougin3925 3 месяца назад +1

      Who cares?!

    • @ExValeFor
      @ExValeFor 3 месяца назад +11

      ​@@dannydougin3925you did enough to post

    • @kino_61
      @kino_61 Месяц назад +1

      Tbf the police casualties don't sadden me, the civillians ones do

  • @NihilusShadow
    @NihilusShadow 4 месяца назад +627

    Two hours? Any crush sounds like a nightmare, but being compressed for that long sounds like hell.

    • @Simp_Zone
      @Simp_Zone 4 месяца назад +18

      Being caught in a crush is almost as bad as being caught in a fire

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 4 месяца назад +6

      now, imagine crossing the atlantic is a wind powered ship, four hundred years ago.

    • @rumpelstiltkinn
      @rumpelstiltkinn 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@ThatOpalGuy Now imagine being imprisoned in a dungeon in the XI century.

    • @AndSorrowsEnd
      @AndSorrowsEnd 4 месяца назад +4

      I was in a crowd crush for 20 minutes and it felt like forever. The idea of multiple HOURS of being stuck in a crush is beyond horrifying. And in such a closed space as an exit tunnel….sickening to imagine

    • @AndSorrowsEnd
      @AndSorrowsEnd 4 месяца назад

      I was in a crowd crush for 20 minutes and it felt like forever. The idea of multiple HOURS of being stuck in a crush is beyond horrifying. And in such a closed space as an exit tunnel….sickening to imagine

  • @BanditSlots
    @BanditSlots 4 месяца назад +324

    I live in Lima and to be absolutely honest to the vast majority of people I have spoken to, they are unaware this occurred in their city in the present day. It’s sad to me that Peru does not remember.

    • @cloudsn
      @cloudsn 4 месяца назад +54

      Not surprising considering it was 60 years ago and there's no memorial anywhere for the victims. It also sounds like right from the start the authorities wanted to sweep it under the rug. Very sad.

    • @achka
      @achka 4 месяца назад +4

      Stop asking zoomers

    • @alanaldpal950
      @alanaldpal950 4 месяца назад +7

      No one knows/remembers there, probably because they don’t have a free unbiased press, kind of like modern day USA

    • @achka
      @achka 4 месяца назад +6

      @@alanaldpal950 more like zoomers cant be bothered. People born in the 80s- early 90s have a notion of the event. In my case, both my dad and grandfather were there at the time.

    • @RangerOkie88
      @RangerOkie88 4 месяца назад +3

      What can you expect from people who dont know who Abimael
      Guzman is and only repeat “Fujimori Nunca Mas” when they were born after the 2000’s…

  • @razrsrealm
    @razrsrealm 4 месяца назад +217

    My dad was at the stadium that day. He made the decision of fleeing up to the highest possible place in the stands to escape the tear gas, instead of going for the tunnels. He predicted something like this could happen.

    • @achka
      @achka 4 месяца назад +42

      People went and hid in the bathrooms. My dad and gramps were there too.

    • @amberkat8147
      @amberkat8147 4 месяца назад +7

      To be honest that was my thought too.

    • @ladysilverwynde
      @ladysilverwynde 4 месяца назад +6

      Hope your dad is okay. This honestly sounded like hell on earth.

    • @razrsrealm
      @razrsrealm 4 месяца назад +7

      @@ladysilverwynde Yup, he's still living. 76 years old now!

    • @miaarcher9984
      @miaarcher9984 4 месяца назад +4

      Listening to this, I thought of going up as high as possible too and waiting it out!

  • @MusicoftheDamned
    @MusicoftheDamned 4 месяца назад +397

    I went in expecting the usual footbal hooliganism if on a larger scale and instead got the usual "yeah, (b)locked exits got people killed" with a large side order of "oh, and the police made it (far) worse".

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 4 месяца назад +36

      You can always count on locked exits. And the role of the police if it is significant is almost always negative.

    • @AlohaChips
      @AlohaChips 4 месяца назад +36

      Made it far worse is one way to put it. I'd argue the officers responding to the field intrusions bear the vast majority of responsibility for the death and destruction. Their actions ramped up the incident to catastrophic mob level thanks to their absolutely terrible handling of /completely foreseeable behavior problems/ from a select few spectators.

    • @Alaryicjude
      @Alaryicjude 4 месяца назад +31

      ​@@AlohaChips, I concur. I have to wonder if it would have gone down this way if they had just taken the two men off the field and not tried to make an example out of the one.

    • @MusicoftheDamned
      @MusicoftheDamned 4 месяца назад +7

      @@AlohaChips I agree. It's just that I would count basically instigating the violence of the incident as "making it worse" here since _technically_ the police didn't start the overreaction to the ref's call. They "just" way overreacted themselves by publicly brutalizing one of the people who stormed the field instead of manhandling off the field without beating the shit out of him, and the police then proceeded to continue to make things worse at seemingly every tum, including likely covering up the amount of people they shot later. So they most definitely bear most of the blame here.
      (Also, if you're trying to italicize, then use underscores. If you're trying to bold, then use asterisks. Neither can be right next to punctuation in the inside though, so *"this"* works but "*this*" doesn't.)

    • @christystewart4567
      @christystewart4567 4 месяца назад +2

      This wasn’t hooliganism. It was a riot.

  • @jenniferbrewer5370
    @jenniferbrewer5370 4 месяца назад +232

    This one's on the cops. They took one guy off the pitch without beating him, they could've done the same with the other.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 4 месяца назад +44

      That's the reason for the coverup.

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 4 месяца назад +31

      Many crowd tragedies are caused by poor crowd control.

    • @IndigoJo
      @IndigoJo 4 месяца назад

      @@molybdomancer195 And many riots are caused by police violence.

    • @mrdumbfellow927
      @mrdumbfellow927 4 месяца назад

      I'd say BOTH groups were out of hand. They picked up a cop who wasn't even down on the field bearing anybody and THREW HIM FROM A BALCONY 5 STORIES HIGH! They strangled another to death. Are you capable of throwing a stranger to his death or choking the life out of them? Mobs are terrifying because no one feels morally responsible for evil they might carry out. I'm NOT surprised one of the cop's was scared enough to shoot tear-gas into the crowd of thousands of angry people. I also doubt the tear gas guy thought so many people would DIE as a result.....
      Obviously the first beating set the already angry people off, but ironically the cops probably did it to scare others from rushing the field or some nonsense. Given how everything happened, I'd bet the cops were a problem in the city BEFORE the match even started. Still doesn't make it ok to go after random law enforcement of course, but some people are only going to see the uniform they are wearing.......

    • @nickbob2003
      @nickbob2003 4 месяца назад +4

      @@molybdomancer195interesting how tier has rarely makes a crowd calm

  • @charlottehardy822
    @charlottehardy822 4 месяца назад +412

    Another crush at another stadium and another cover up. When will people stop making the same mistakes. RIP to all those who have died in this way around the world.

    • @neilkurzman4907
      @neilkurzman4907 4 месяца назад +14

      This was over 60 years ago.
      We’ve learned a lot about crowd control since then.
      Or at least I hope we have

    • @charlottehardy822
      @charlottehardy822 4 месяца назад +19

      @@neilkurzman4907 I hope so too but it’s not that long since there was a similar event at a festival somewhere when authorities allowed to many people through a gate before opening enough exits. Every time it happens it seems astounding that the same mistakes occur and rarely is anyone brought to account.

    • @iraqifoodcart8447
      @iraqifoodcart8447 4 месяца назад

      ​​@@neilkurzman490799% of concerts, shows, sports games, don't result in things like this anymore. I say 99% Because there were the 8 people who died at Travis Scott's Astroworld concert. Not only were 8 people crushed to death, Travis Scott did two things. 1: Travis Scott encouraged people to sneak into the event, knowing it would be over crowded as a result. 2: When the 8 bodies were being moved out of the venue, he can be seen sitting on top of a pillar repeating the word "Yeeeaaaaaaaaa" with auto tune.
      Body gets moved out, Travis Scott says "Yeeeeeaaaaaa.. Yeeeeeaaaaaa"
      Super creepy shit. No way he didn't plan for those people to die.
      There's no footage of this next part, but the rumor is that the artist who warmed up the crowd for Travis Scott said "Don't die tonight" before walking off stage.

    • @mimib8032
      @mimib8032 4 месяца назад +18

      A Halloween cruah in South Korea in 2022 killed 160. Sadly, we havent learned. ​@neilkurzman4907

    • @Alan92Truong
      @Alan92Truong 4 месяца назад +13

      When people stop worshipping sports. Which is never

  • @andreagriffiths3512
    @andreagriffiths3512 4 месяца назад +247

    Been in a small crush myself. It was inside a fairly narrow tunnel by the river. Authorities had closed the higher route because of a festival and it left the river route as the only way around. It wasn’t a tight crush like these poor people experienced but it was certainly tight enough packed that the only way out was inch by shuffling inch forward. It felt like a lifetime to come out the other side. It was terrifying.

    • @gggthsb
      @gggthsb 4 месяца назад +24

      Reading this alone makes me feel sick. Just imagine, it only takes one person being stupid to cause a panic and then a tragedy. I try to avoid big crowds if people in closed areas whenever I can, the thought of being in a crush terrifies me.

    • @StAlphonsusHasAPosse
      @StAlphonsusHasAPosse 4 месяца назад +4

      @@gggthsb Yes

    • @chatteyj
      @chatteyj 4 месяца назад +17

      Always avoid large crowds in tight spaces, just wait up for a few hours, its never worth the risk. Its what sets us apart from animals as we know the inherent dangers involved.

    • @andreagriffiths3512
      @andreagriffiths3512 4 месяца назад +11

      @@chatteyj aye but that’s the thing - it was open from both ends and I didn’t realise until I was in that it was a crush. Also from the direction I approached I had no idea the other route was blocked off. By the time I did, it was too late. But you better believe I’ll not be going that route during a festival time again.

    • @eywine.7762
      @eywine.7762 4 месяца назад +13

      Many years ago, I attended the North Carolina State Fair with my very pregnant sister and her two boys. There was a broad, open-air passage from the gates to the area where everything was set up. When we were ready to leave, my sister had her older son - who had survived cancer that left him somewhat frail - ride piggy-back since he was exhausted. I took my younger nephew (also exhausted) piggy-back. When we got to the entrance/exit passage, there were so many people going either way that it was like you described: we could only inch forward a bit at a time. I stayed close enough behind my sister that I was nearly touching the child on her back. All I could think of was to stick that close or we'd be separated and that if anybody in that crowd fell down, they'd be in danger of being trampled. It was one of the most frightening experiences of my life.

  • @samuelselassie57
    @samuelselassie57 4 месяца назад +137

    this football disaster also happened in my country Ghana in 2001 the police faked the number of dead people, and the police were using expired tear gas, so in the police record, they claim only 120 people died, but in the public record, everybody in Accra lost somebody, so the numbers of the dead people were higher and there was a funeral everywhere from Accra to Kumasi

    • @MsPopeye65
      @MsPopeye65 4 месяца назад +1

    • @extragoogleaccount6061
      @extragoogleaccount6061 4 месяца назад +3

      That’s terribly sad. Hopefully there can one day be a memorial for it. Unlike in the video.

    • @frankperkin124
      @frankperkin124 2 месяца назад

      The police faked evidence and lied? I'm so surprised! 😮

  • @phinhnanthasone1231
    @phinhnanthasone1231 4 месяца назад +356

    So many lost lives and not worthy enough for a memorial. The powers involved in the cover up seem still going strong

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 4 месяца назад

      Peru's government is known for their callousness. look up the Yungay disaster.

    • @Plasmastorm73_n5evv
      @Plasmastorm73_n5evv 4 месяца назад

      There aren't many memorials in South American countries that commemorate government corruption that resulted in loss of lives.

    • @DeusWizard
      @DeusWizard 4 месяца назад +11

      a memorial? for something that they themselves caused? You must be joking.

    • @Jolis_Parsec
      @Jolis_Parsec 4 месяца назад +16

      @DeusWizard Yes, a memorial, as the po-pos really screwed up and made the situation a heckuva lot worse, bro.

    • @DeusWizard
      @DeusWizard 4 месяца назад

      @@Jolis_Parsec None of this would have happened if they had not acted like psychotic monkeys, the police and the government may be corrupt but none of that is relevant. Everyone would have lived if a few had not incited violence over a soccer game.

  • @Ddrhl
    @Ddrhl 4 месяца назад +104

    So many deaths and yet no completed inquiry? I cannot imagine what it must be like for the families of the injured/deceased.

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 4 месяца назад +13

      Such is the result of a corrupt non-representative government. And we seem to be heading back towards more of those sorts of governments. In the US, this is seemingly by choice.

    • @eniab4616
      @eniab4616 4 месяца назад +4

      ​@@stevencooke6451 In the 1960s, Peru was a representative democracy, but you are correct in the sense that it was a corrupt government and failed to address the socioeconomic issues of the country, which led to the public losing trust in politicians. The police and military forces were especially brutal during these times dealing with social unrest, eventually establishing a dictatorship that lasted from 1969 to 1980. I am not surprised the police and even the government prevented the inquiry from coming out. It was truly dark times in Peru and the rest of Latin America.

    • @CYB3R2K
      @CYB3R2K 3 месяца назад +1

      Dude, is Peru, massive corruption and flawed systems are the daily.

    • @CYB3R2K
      @CYB3R2K 22 дня назад

      We're talking about Peru here dawg

  • @StAlphonsusHasAPosse
    @StAlphonsusHasAPosse 4 месяца назад +245

    This is why I avoid crowds. If something goes bad it becomes a mob and there is nothing you can do about it

    • @PseudoEmpathy
      @PseudoEmpathy 4 месяца назад +5

      Cattle prod in both hands. Frenzied animals/humans fear the lightning.

    • @nancyaustin9516
      @nancyaustin9516 4 месяца назад +25

      I'm with you on this one. In my foolish youth I attended large gatherings like major sporting events and concerts, but eventually I wised up.

    • @talpark8796
      @talpark8796 4 месяца назад +3

      🙄

    • @tubthump
      @tubthump 4 месяца назад +11

      Usually it’s fine unless police are involved

    • @NummyScrum
      @NummyScrum 4 месяца назад +3

      I'm sure it's more than that. But I get your sentiment

  • @katyoutnabout5943
    @katyoutnabout5943 4 месяца назад +16

    every video, halfway through, i think “there’s no way it could get any worse!” and then 4 more things pile up on top of that

  • @insertnamehere5809
    @insertnamehere5809 4 месяца назад +89

    This reminds me of a similar tragedy in Indonesia after police fired tear gas into the crowd after a violent and fiery football match in Java.
    It caused a stampede & hundreds were killed. 😢

    • @robertsteinbach7325
      @robertsteinbach7325 4 месяца назад +4

      Never underestimate the ability of authorities to make a bad situation into a high causality disaster. To do the opposite takes great effort in training, planning, and authorities that act honestly. In the richer former British Colonies and Western Europe we are used to authorities making such good faith efforts and learning from past mistakes, even when their plans go awry many times. Every country has had a tragic and fatal human crush situations.

    • @insertnamehere5809
      @insertnamehere5809 4 месяца назад +1

      @@robertsteinbach7325 After this tragedy in Peru, FIFA required that all police officers at national league games (which Indonesia is a part of) only use tear age as an absolute last resort and only outside the grounds.
      They're not supposed to have tear gas or be armed.

  • @brigidsingleton1596
    @brigidsingleton1596 4 месяца назад +25

    I went with a schoolfriend to see a football game between Chelsea & Arsenal (a _very_ long time ago) for the first time ever...and I had asked her how we'd know _where_ to get off the train (on the Tube) and she reassured me, "we'll know...!" ...The crowd "showed us"
    ...we were _literally_ carried off our feet and, through the crush of the crowd - I think, all men, I saw no other girls or women there - we were carried from the train, to the platform, to the stairs, to the exits, to the stadium, and only found our feet as we made our way to the terraces
    ... It was an extremely scary experience which _I'd_ never been in before, and perhaps my friend had, but not too often, as I think she'd been with her brother previously...
    I never went again. I could later imagine the kind of crush those at the Argentina v Peru game (& at Hillsborough) might have gone through - but probably a hundred times worse.😢
    I hope no other crowds have to endure such tragedies again as being unable to breathe (through choking on food, as I've felt before my 'children' rescued me) is frightening enough but crush situations must be really terrifying.
    Words fail in hearing of such awful events.
    Rest In Peace ...to all such victims, and condolences to families, friends, witnesses and connections.😢💔😢💔

  • @katthawthorne1027
    @katthawthorne1027 4 месяца назад +22

    Makes one wonder if the riot would have happened were it not for the cops pointlessly beating a person.

    • @coolnut99
      @coolnut99 3 месяца назад +1

      Considering the seriousness of the match, yes, there still would have been a massive riot. Far fewer people would have died, though.

    • @anjolimartorell4107
      @anjolimartorell4107 23 дня назад

      I never understood why people who are rioting destroy businesses and other people's property who have nothing to do with the situation.

  • @Votrae
    @Votrae 4 месяца назад +148

    We're all here for the grim curiosity, but that toll of lives lost was really shocking. More proof that we human animals are dangerous in groups. Story well told, as always

    • @--_--IMP--_--
      @--_--IMP--_-- 4 месяца назад

      While there certainly is truth to what you are saying about herds being dangerous, this happened because of egregiously bad management, plain and simple. This completely avoidable tragedy would not have played out like it did if 60% of the exits weren't illegally blocked for bullshit reasons.

    • @emilyadams3228
      @emilyadams3228 4 месяца назад

      Yeah, as if you're so friendly and cuddly singly.

    • @myragroenewegen5426
      @myragroenewegen5426 4 месяца назад +18

      This is different. I wouldn't blame it on crowd danger primarily. The police brutally attacked an arrested man in front of spectators and escalate whatever conflict their was, then used their weapons and power to brutalize an imprisoned crowd. You'd kind of expect to be focusing on the crowd's responsibility more at a contested football match, but the role of authorities here is so wrong on every level. It really has more to do with how cops managing crowds can be monstrously cruel to people who have very limited control.

    • @maxtew6521
      @maxtew6521 4 месяца назад +4

      We're always a few circumstances away from finding out what kind of savage hides inside of every one of us. It's the acknowledgement and control of this force that shows wisdom.

    • @Votrae
      @Votrae 4 месяца назад +7

      @@myragroenewegen5426 yes actually I do agree with you, it was not a typical hive mind crush. That brutality and then firing tear gas into a crowd with only one direction to go.. into a bottleneck of closed gates. It may not have been by design, but those people were herded to their deaths.

  • @wesbaumguardner8829
    @wesbaumguardner8829 4 месяца назад +112

    There is no situation that police can't make worse.

    • @1x4
      @1x4 4 месяца назад +10

      Regular people don't seem to make it better either.

    • @nickbob2003
      @nickbob2003 4 месяца назад +26

      @@1x4but throwing tier gas at regular people in a confined space who are already panicking is stupidity. The police are there for order not to make the situation 10x worse by beating a civilian in front of an already angry crowd

    • @1x4
      @1x4 4 месяца назад +3

      @@nickbob2003 you mean in this particular instance? Because that's not what he said.
      "There is no situation that police can't make worse."
      Context clues.

    • @Plasmastorm73_n5evv
      @Plasmastorm73_n5evv 4 месяца назад +4

      Boy ain't that the truth.

    • @Plasmastorm73_n5evv
      @Plasmastorm73_n5evv 4 месяца назад +1

      Context, I can point out THOUSANDS of historical facts where police made situations worse.@@1x4

  • @liammclaughlin8684
    @liammclaughlin8684 4 месяца назад +7

    My man. The only RUclips channel I know that correctly says turn for the worse instead of turn for the worst

  • @SamanthaEatsCookies
    @SamanthaEatsCookies 4 месяца назад +8

    Not being able to exit is such a scary thing. It seems like stadiums in South America do not have good regulations. The most recent that comes to mind is the Taylor Swift concert where there was no water accessible and the stadium shut all air vents leading into the place she performed. This is just yet another example of lives lost because of mismanagement.

  • @steveeaster493
    @steveeaster493 4 месяца назад +45

    Sounds like there were underlying problems with the police before this incident

  • @molybdomancer195
    @molybdomancer195 4 месяца назад +43

    Crush events are truly horrifying.

  • @lxik2677
    @lxik2677 4 месяца назад +27

    Thank you for making a video on a disaster on my home city! It's very informative and respectful, as always. There were some details I didn't know about that you presented. If you want another disaster from Lima, the Utopía nightclub fire is another one, and up to this day, both legally and illegally, the men responsible are avoiding accountability

    • @extragoogleaccount6061
      @extragoogleaccount6061 4 месяца назад +1

      Both are terrible. I wanted to ask, do you know why there isn’t a memorial or even a plaque at the stadium though? Assuming the video is right there must be at least a battle for putting in something like that

    • @extragoogleaccount6061
      @extragoogleaccount6061 4 месяца назад

      Both are terrible. I wanted to ask, do you know why there isn’t a memorial or even a plaque at the stadium though? Assuming the video is right there must be at least a battle for putting in something like that

    • @lxik2677
      @lxik2677 4 месяца назад +2

      @@extragoogleaccount6061 I honestly do not know why there isn't one. I'm guessing that the authorities waited so the family members, of those who perished, died, so there would not be any more incentive to place one. Maybe they don't want the current population to be reminded of their violence, ineptitude and lack of accountability. Police is still as awful as back then when in protests and similar stuff (1 year ago they murdered people in the highlands and until now there's no justice delivered) so maybe they also push to not place a memorial. They could have very well have placed one when the stadium was renovated a decade ago

    • @LatinaLover246
      @LatinaLover246 4 месяца назад +1

      This is also my home city! Though I don’t live there anymore, [my family moved in 2003] it’s a good reminder of how much pain my home has, and this happened a year before my mom was born!

    • @CYB3R2K
      @CYB3R2K 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@lxik2677is Peru. That's the answer.

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 4 месяца назад +29

    Being a football disaster I would have thought that I would have been more familiar with this one but I can't recall too much about it I suppose so much focus is on Heysal and Hillsborough that the others tend to be forgotten about

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 4 месяца назад +49

    Why are all these tragedies always handled in the worst way possible so many deaths would have been avoided otherwise

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 4 месяца назад +16

      That’s what makes them a tragedy. If handled well they become a mere near miss

    • @sarajuanaict
      @sarajuanaict 4 месяца назад

      Cops have always been stupid I suppose

    • @beenhog6922
      @beenhog6922 4 месяца назад +2

      ....cause its a tragedy 😂😂😂

    • @napoleonbonerfart278
      @napoleonbonerfart278 4 месяца назад +1

      🤣🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦

    • @mats7492
      @mats7492 4 месяца назад

      to shield the responsible poeople from the consequences of their actions..

  • @reverendjames9842
    @reverendjames9842 4 месяца назад +11

    Nothing has been learned from any of these type of events around the world to this day. There are still mad crushes when things go wrong in large crowds.

  • @nopcshere6097
    @nopcshere6097 4 месяца назад +7

    I remember reading about this. The fan who jumped onto the field to go after the referee had a long history of attacks on game officials. He was nicknamed 'The Bomb'. When he made his attack against the referee in this game, the crowd saw him and shouted 'Ahi va la bomba!' - 'There goes The Bomb'.

    • @terry_willis
      @terry_willis 2 месяца назад

      He should have been banned for life. Before this game.

  • @bartfoster1311
    @bartfoster1311 4 месяца назад +34

    I've never heard of this disaster before but not surprised by who was trying to keep their crimes hidden!

  • @rosiecatbandit
    @rosiecatbandit 4 месяца назад +28

    Awww you've got a cold . Hope you're better soon 😊

    • @amiemarieart
      @amiemarieart 4 месяца назад +3

      First thing I noticed too, came to the comments to see if anyone had mentioned it

    • @Elizabeth16225
      @Elizabeth16225 4 месяца назад

      Same lol

  • @snippyJ
    @snippyJ 4 месяца назад +29

    This is why I just go to hockey games. I could be wrong, but I've never heard of anything horrendous like this happening at a hockey game.

    • @yelling3874
      @yelling3874 4 месяца назад +15

      I went and did a little googling and couldn't find anything. In the NHL, there's only ever been one fan fatality as a result of a game, in 2022 when a rogue puck flew into the stands and hit Brittanie Cecil, a 17 year old, in the right temple. The hospital failed to catch that it had torn an artery, and she died 2 days later. I'm not sure about lower leagues.

    • @derkeheath5172
      @derkeheath5172 4 месяца назад +12

      A few freak deaths of players, and someone died a few decades back being hit by a hockey puck, but that's it. I guess we can thank the dispositions of Canadians for that.

    • @melissaharris3389
      @melissaharris3389 4 месяца назад +15

      I think it has to do with the way hockey arenas are designed. You don't see crush events at basketball games much either. Both are commonly held in the same venues that are designed to convert from court to rink. Hockey rinks are almost universally indoor stadiums that hold fewer spectators than soccer pitches and are more steeply tiered for viewing of the smaller area.
      The number of crushes that have happened at soccer stadiums probably indicates there's a fundamental issue to how they were designed.

    • @TheTobeyGaming
      @TheTobeyGaming 4 месяца назад +5

      I would also argue that it does not really matter what event or venue it is, if the planning is bad and you get an uncontrolled situation this can always lead to disaster sadly...

    • @Feliciathedoll
      @Feliciathedoll 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@TheTobeyGaming Pretty much. I guess with bad planning anything could go horribly wrong huh?

  • @EclipseAtDusk
    @EclipseAtDusk 4 месяца назад +19

    “This was an entire day’s wages, for one seat” that’s just Normal now

  • @mariac8360
    @mariac8360 4 месяца назад +11

    I asked my parents about this incident when I first learned about it. My mom told me one of my uncles almost was in attendance that day. Thanks for covering this tragedy.

  • @celieboo
    @celieboo 4 месяца назад +9

    This is amazing and tragic. I have heard about a lot of stadium crowd crushes, but i have never heard about this one.

  • @christianbrix4311
    @christianbrix4311 4 месяца назад +9

    There's also that time a bunch of players were struck by lightning during a game, that might be worth covering. That was also in South America, if I remember correctly. Get well soon :)

  • @pachma405
    @pachma405 4 месяца назад +23

    A police cover up?
    How preposterous.
    Next they'll be saying there was a police cover up at Hillsborough.

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 4 месяца назад +2

      Now why in the world would the police ever do that? They're the lawful ones!
      I am sure every police officer is a lawful good paladin who saves cats from trees.

    • @brigidsingleton1596
      @brigidsingleton1596 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@planescaped
      Firepersons save cats...?!
      _Some_ police are "good guys" ... 🤔😶

  • @PatricioGarcia1973
    @PatricioGarcia1973 4 месяца назад +7

    should do a video on the Puerta 12 soccer tragedy from 1968. The doors were unlocked but the stampede of people trying to get out caused people to get trapped and crushed. The doors opened inwards but with all the people pushing the ones in front could not open them and 74 died and around 160 injured....

  • @ethribin4188
    @ethribin4188 4 месяца назад +10

    Geeze... the police being so brutal to that one guy is rediculous.
    And definitely the reason for the riot in the first place. Not the foul.

    • @snicker576
      @snicker576 4 месяца назад +1

      Was perhaps an exacerbating event, but was not the cause.

  • @elliottprice6084
    @elliottprice6084 4 месяца назад +11

    The worst disaster in football, and one of the biggest disasters of the 20th century. The worst thing is, is that this tragedy leaves so many of the biggest questions unanswered, and that there hasn't been another enquiry to try and shed light on what really caused this tragedy. RIP to all 328 victims

  • @ankokon
    @ankokon 4 месяца назад

    Been following the channel for a while and this is the first time my city is mentioned! This was a truly saddening event, and as always I'm grateful for the way you explain things matter-of-factly and with compassion for the victims.

  • @AvyScottandFlower
    @AvyScottandFlower 4 месяца назад +12

    How fans get *SO* invested in games in which they're not even participating themselves
    (not as players, players' families, club owners, investors, etc)
    Is really wild to me..

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 4 месяца назад +6

      I think the trigger point was police brutality not the football game

    • @AvyScottandFlower
      @AvyScottandFlower 4 месяца назад +5

      @@molybdomancer195 Well sure, but the tension wouldn't have been there to begin with, without the fever of the crowd.

    • @lemagicbaguette1917
      @lemagicbaguette1917 4 месяца назад +2

      @@AvyScottandFlower the nature of the game meant that there was national pride to be lost. Fevers are common elsewhere because of a similar pride in the teams that the fans back, but they typically are tamer than games involving nations.
      Such tension is unavoidable, and preparation is a must.

  • @ScottDLR
    @ScottDLR 4 месяца назад +2

    Outstanding job, as usual. and totally heart-breaking.

  • @tfrowlett8752
    @tfrowlett8752 4 месяца назад +3

    Yes I think I mentioned this one in an earlier video, thank you for finally covering it

  • @lordmeep5803
    @lordmeep5803 4 месяца назад +2

    Great coverage, what a brutal story

  • @Vicus_of_Utrecht
    @Vicus_of_Utrecht 4 месяца назад +2

    Whoa that death toll was way higher than I expected going into this video 😮😢

  • @RedNightDragon1
    @RedNightDragon1 4 месяца назад +1

    Wow, this is definitely the definition of fascinating and horror. Great episode.

  • @reneedennis2011
    @reneedennis2011 4 месяца назад +2

    Thank you for this video. I didn't know about this. More 300 people?!? 🤯

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 4 месяца назад +4

    Ive been in a crush, they are terrifying… im a big guy but even I could lift my feet up and sway with the crowd. This was at a Pantera Concert in 1999 in Dallas

    • @Vicus_of_Utrecht
      @Vicus_of_Utrecht 4 месяца назад

      Same. Also a metal concert lol. Fuck me I was only 3 people deep from the front and holy shit how *powerless* you are. No body could knock me down in a mosh right, but that crush was just... something else entirely 💀.

  • @davidcox3076
    @davidcox3076 4 месяца назад +2

    Unfortunately, 60 years from this disaster, we still don't have the best handle on crowd dynamics and control.

  • @metafora89
    @metafora89 4 месяца назад +5

    You're so my favourite channel right now. Thank you for all these high quality videos.

  • @user-bv3cl2cl8b
    @user-bv3cl2cl8b 4 месяца назад +4

    After this episode, it would be interesting to do a episode on the Roman coliseum with all the death and horror that is well documented.

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 4 месяца назад +7

    We appreciate your insights. You'll always have our support.

  • @chronique86
    @chronique86 4 месяца назад +2

    Another shining example of why I HATE sportsball and everything about it.

  • @Jazzinthedark84
    @Jazzinthedark84 4 месяца назад +2

    As someone who campaigned for years to get justice for the Hillsborough disaster, and because I know a lot about what happened there;
    Watching this video was full of moments of me going: oh god, oh no, oh I know how this is going to end etc.
    25 years before Hillsborough and nothing was learned.
    I'm so sorry for everyone who had to endure these terrible stadium crushes and for those left behind, who never get justice for their loved ones GOING TO A FOOTBALL MATCH AND NOT COMING HOME.

  • @somethinunameit637
    @somethinunameit637 4 месяца назад +3

    Crowd surges are terrifying

  • @propertyofranger
    @propertyofranger 4 месяца назад +4

    I honestly do not understand how some people can get so aggressive and violent when it comes to sport. It’s just a game, a stupid game that really doesn’t mean anything. It’s hard to believe that people really are so pathetically immature that they throw violent temper tantrums because the referee awards an advantage to the opposition or their team loses the match. Riots and violence resulting in injury, death, or property destruction are inexcusable.

  • @theflanman420420
    @theflanman420420 4 месяца назад +1

    It never ceases to amaze me what crazed animals humans can turn into over something so unimportant to their actual well being.

  • @lauravr5632
    @lauravr5632 4 месяца назад +3

    328 is an insanely incomprehensible number.

  • @ConservativeBlack
    @ConservativeBlack 4 месяца назад

    I absolutely love your content.

  • @basbleupeaunoire
    @basbleupeaunoire 4 месяца назад +1

    Crushes are so deadly! I didn't realize it until I started watching these vids.

  • @terrenceolivido741
    @terrenceolivido741 4 месяца назад +1

    I have lived in South America for 14 years. As tragic as this is, this is such a classic South American story. When i first got here, buses full of people would ... well, routinely ..., fall off the mountain roads. This was just considered par-for-the-course. I mean one day you are here - one day you are not ... Seems accurate. I came down here hoping that the historic incompetence of people and institutions here would help shield me from the NWO . So far it has worked ...

  • @MsPopeye65
    @MsPopeye65 4 месяца назад +2

    This case sounds as though it truly was a complete disaster.....
    Never fails to amaze me just how dumb some peoples decisions can be.... and the absolute chaos and utter devastation they are capable of causing....
    And we never seem to learn anything....❤

  • @weofnjieofing
    @weofnjieofing 4 месяца назад +3

    I knew nothing of this tragedy. Just disgraceful on so many levels

  • @Halinspark
    @Halinspark 4 месяца назад +1

    I'm glad you mentioned that the referee's call is still debated. I don't care about football, but the curiosity would have bothered me all day, otherwise.

  • @cgsai2008
    @cgsai2008 4 месяца назад

    Great video covering a very hush hush incident.

  • @EDDIELANE
    @EDDIELANE 4 месяца назад +1

    Ive never heard of this!! Unreal!!

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 4 месяца назад +2

    8:54 that’s an image that sticks with you especially knowing about post WW2 Argentina in the 50’s and 60’s.

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 4 месяца назад +3

    Always look forward to a Tuesday morning video by FH

  • @Headbehindthebubble
    @Headbehindthebubble 4 месяца назад +3

    Hope your cold gets better 👍

  • @andreagriffiths3512
    @andreagriffiths3512 4 месяца назад +6

    Completely irrelevant but I need to say: Inca-Kola is an awesome drink 🤤 0:35

    • @trevormillar1576
      @trevormillar1576 4 месяца назад +1

      Can you get Aztec-cola in Mexico? 7:56

  • @straswa
    @straswa 4 месяца назад

    Wow, what a mess by the police. Great video FH, condolences to the families of the fallen.

  • @scottyerkes1867
    @scottyerkes1867 4 месяца назад +2

    A tragic event. Exit gates should have been unlocked. Tear gas should not have been used

  • @ethribin4188
    @ethribin4188 4 месяца назад +3

    My guess on why the shutters were closed is cause they wanted to prevent people without tickets to sneak in during the game.

  • @paidinred1
    @paidinred1 4 месяца назад

    Hope you get feeling better!

  • @cannonball9478
    @cannonball9478 4 месяца назад

    Hope your cold gets better soon 👍

  • @shigeminotoge4514
    @shigeminotoge4514 4 месяца назад +1

    Hope your cold gets better soon :(

  • @foo219
    @foo219 4 месяца назад +2

    I remember reading a comic about this. What is with football fans and rioting? At this point it feels like football games shouldn't be allowed within a certain distance of populated areas. The football clubs are rich enough that they can take their fans out there by bus, and then take any potential survivors back...

    • @donnawoodman6249
      @donnawoodman6249 4 месяца назад +2

      😅 LOL.

    • @catprog
      @catprog 4 месяца назад

      It was the police beating in full view of fans that caused the riots.

    • @sepiasnakesigil
      @sepiasnakesigil 4 месяца назад +4

      It wasn't a soccer riot; it was people trying to leave a stadium so they wouldn't get gassed.

  • @maurolara8499
    @maurolara8499 3 месяца назад

    Yes, finally he made a video! I remember my grandfather telling me about this. I remember him telling me that it was all because of the police, and that they covered it afterwards. Thank you for making a video on it!
    If only this video was in Spanish, I could show it to my parents and grandparents.

  • @raztastic
    @raztastic 4 месяца назад +14

    "watching people chase a ball for four hours to end 0 - 0 is not enjoyable - unless, of course, the bleachers collapse and half of Europe dies." - Daniel Tosh

  • @jordanfry5138
    @jordanfry5138 4 месяца назад +2

    So police committed extreme brutality, the crowd reacted with anger, and they responded my committing mass murder? And then covered it up afterwards?
    Yeah, that sounds about right.

    • @snicker576
      @snicker576 4 месяца назад

      Relax. You only interpreted this situation entirely wrong because your agenda-driven mind compelled you to.

  • @gillgetter3004
    @gillgetter3004 4 месяца назад +4

    I would never go close to one of these events, crazy fans etc.

  • @randomtscemployee5929
    @randomtscemployee5929 4 месяца назад +7

    I startled my kids when I exclaimed "Oh, Jesus!!" when I heard the death toll. That's awful!

  • @kellark
    @kellark 4 месяца назад +2

    Not even a memorial to those who died?? Very sad!

  • @Jen-rose76
    @Jen-rose76 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for doing this video. I have never heard of this happening. What upsets me is we never learn our lessons. The fact that this still happens (everywhere) means a lot of people lost their lives for nothing!! I blame the police officers, they are the ones that beat that poor man!! They are the ones who locked the gates!! I was watching the video and when you were talking about number of dead my mouth dropped and a tear roll down my cheek. I was thinking in my head 20-30. Never would there be 300 and that’s not even everyone!!! I’d say this is the worst incident I’ve ever heard of!
    R.I.P. to all those lost. Sensing love and support to all who were affected. Family’s, Friend’s, wives, children, mothers, fathers etc….. Just an awful, awful situation. No one should suffer so much just because they wanted to support their favorite football team!! 😢💙🙏🏽🩷x300 plus. 😢

  • @jamest2401
    @jamest2401 4 месяца назад

    I love listening to your narration, Kristian, I could listen to it all day. Out of curiosity, what region of England do you and your accent hail from? Although some accents of “Old Blighty”, like ‘Cockney’, are quite unmistakable; but of others, I’m sorry to say, that my American ears sometimes have difficulty in their ability to distinguish.

  • @AriaAsacura
    @AriaAsacura 2 месяца назад

    the case of the hillsborough disaster in the UK is also still basically ongoing, seems like most countries have a story where football stadiums become death traps ):

  • @wuhugm
    @wuhugm 4 месяца назад +5

    raising foot too high is a foul, but overhead kick is okay? huh

    • @nlwilson4892
      @nlwilson4892 4 месяца назад +3

      Well if you drop back and kick overhead then there is no chance of you kicking anyone else. Also, I don't think the high kick rule applies if no-one is near you.

    • @wuhugm
      @wuhugm 4 месяца назад

      @@nlwilson4892 I got kicked in the nose by an overhead kick

  • @cadillacdeville5828
    @cadillacdeville5828 4 месяца назад +2

    Good morning 🌄

  • @atcred3
    @atcred3 4 месяца назад +1

    I APPRECIATE THIS ONE....SEEING AS HOW I COULD TELL YOU HAD A COLD

  • @esteemedmortal5917
    @esteemedmortal5917 4 месяца назад +4

    Wow, that spiraled into a worse situation than most stadium crushes. Some people just exploit chaos

  • @Firevine
    @Firevine 4 месяца назад +10

    The way people act about sports is appalling.

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 4 месяца назад +5

      Like the police you mean

    • @snicker576
      @snicker576 4 месяца назад

      Agreed!

    • @snicker576
      @snicker576 4 месяца назад

      ​@@molybdomancer195 tragedies like this have happened NUMEROUS times where the police weren't a factor whatsoever. It is the insipid brains of sportsball fans that prompt these behaviors.

  • @jblueeyedlady6768
    @jblueeyedlady6768 4 месяца назад +3

    Awe, it said no views, I thought I was the first to watch and was gonna comment the same! ♥️🇺🇸🦄🧚 I love his voice!

  • @shogun2215
    @shogun2215 4 месяца назад +2

    All this over a fucking football match? This is part of the reason I hate the sport.

  • @TornadoElle_
    @TornadoElle_ 4 месяца назад +4

    Its a good day when they upload ❤🎉

  • @F40PH-2CAT
    @F40PH-2CAT 4 месяца назад +3

    What is it with soccer in so many places? You never see this in American sports.
    I'm glad it's not that popular here.

  • @itsjohndell
    @itsjohndell 4 месяца назад +2

    I remember this event. Football....

  • @capt.bart.roberts4975
    @capt.bart.roberts4975 4 месяца назад

    Hope your cold gets better quickly.😶

  • @thomashawkins6154
    @thomashawkins6154 4 месяца назад +2

    This is what happens when you have callous authority.

  • @WendysCove
    @WendysCove 4 месяца назад +1

    🎉🎉🎉Brilliant well researched. Very sad. RIP...