The Innocents (1961) - Woman in the Lake
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- While enjoying a peaceful morning near the lake, the governess (Deborah Kerr) notices a black-clad figure standing in the distance. Little Flora, however, sees nothing. Is this a ghost? Or is everything happening inside Miss Giddens's head?
This ambiguity is a persistent theme in "The Innocents", which is a rather faithful adaptation of Henry James's novella, "The Turn of the Screw" (1898). A classic in gothic horror movies, it has been a great influence on films such as "The Others" (2001) and "Crimson Peak" (2015).
Film: "The Innocents" (1961)
Director: Jack Clayton
Actors in this scene: Deborah Kerr, Pamela Franklin 
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The only horror film that ever left me feeling truly disturbed. The fact the figure appears in broad daylight makes it even more chilling.
Have you ever experienced something like that?.
@@anibalcesarnishizk2205 No, thank God.
@@anibalcesarnishizk2205 never saw anything, but I’ve heard things, and had unexplainable things happen…I think I would lose my mind if I ever actually had a visual supernatural experience!
Yes, the scenes with Miss Jessel at the lake and the one with Quint at the window…so creepy! I first saw this movie when I was just a kid, it was on late one night, and my mother, who had already seen it, had me stay up to watch it with her. The novel was equally spooky, there is a part where the governess encounters Quint in the quiet of dawn, inside the house, on the staircase. Wish they had included that scene in the film.
@@geslinam9703 I agree. The encounter with Quint on the stairs is utterly chilling.
Why does the woman seem much scarier when viewed from far away? As the viewer, it is unsettling not being able to see her very well. If it was a close-up, she wouldn't be scary at all. This Cinematographer was a beast!
Real horror is subtle, and boy is this it.
Hardly subtle, but still very unsettling.
@@knoxgarfallen3355 Compared to the modern-day gorefests, this is the height of subtlety.
@@jasonhurd4379 see Krishna
All the CGI special effects movies and in your face zillion dollar scare flicks.... THIS scares me more still.
Exactly. I get goosebumps every time I watch it..
If George Lucas touched this movie I would kill him
It’s crazy to watch this after seeing Haunting of Bly Manor, even the same creepy song as the show.
Right!!
There's nothing crazy about this because Mike Flanagan, the director of Bly Manor paid homage to this film by using motifs from it and this film is an adaptation of a novel (Turn of the screw) which Bly Manor is also an adaptation of.
dani clayton in tv series is named after director of this movie jack clayton
It's funny cuz bly manor is trash
And there are several other references to other TOTS adaptations: for example, the use of toys and the narrative-frame device is a nod to 1992 Rusty Lemorande's version (which is also set in a more contemporary time period).
John Carpenter said that he watched this movie when he was in film school, and that he found this particular scene to be very powerful. When making Halloween, he was inspired to use similar wide shots to frame Micheal in the distance. You can see the parallel when watching this clip.
ooh that's interesting. I never knew that and I've been a big Halloween fan for years :O
Also, Joe Dante has said this was favorite horror film.
Is that true? I immediately thought about the shot of Michael hiding behind the bushes when I saw this scene.
@@dylan9094 Sure is. It's in one of the many many Halloween docs on YT.
Exploding robots. Demons biting heads off. Zombies. Vampires. Squids from space. Billions of dollars in special effects YET…after fifty years nothing in the movies has ever creeped me out as much as this woman sitting in the grass in broad daylight
So well said
That actress's facial expressions to horror and surprise and curiosity are beautifully authentic and terrifying!
Deborah Kerr was such a graceful beauty and wonderful actress. Her adept and skilled acting with only her facial expressions was used throughout this movie.
1:44 Deborah Kerr deserves alllllll the Oscars
She's fantastic, yes.
The million dollar question is how she didn’t win won especially for the film.
@Ece Because
You have to be pretty ballsy to be a ghost and show up in broad daylight.
Flora called to her.
MASTERPIECE
Yes!
This scene, in addition to being one of the most frightening in the film, is a beautiful illustration of the ambiguity with which Clayton and the actors imbued James' tale. At 1:40, Flora is quite clearly staring at someone (or something) across the water. Yet, at 2:05, in response to Miss Giddens' query 'Who is it? Over there?', the girl's brow furrows in evident confusion as to what the governess could possibly be talking about. This ambiguity (which incidentally does not exist in James' original, having been dreamed up by Capote from a theory of Edmund Wilson's) is marvelously even-handed in the film, with equally strong arguments for both sides. Do the ghosts exist, or are they figments of Miss Giddens' fevered imaginings? Clayton and his actors play it close to the vest, and we can never come to a firm conclusion on the question.
I recall in an interview regarding the making of the movie, Deborah Kerr felt in her opinion, that the Governess was insane and there were no ghosts at all
So, in James' original is it more obvious that Miss Giddens is insane?
@@alyctus She is not insane in the novella. The ghosts are real, and attempting to possess the children. In fact, the narrator in the framing story says that, after leaving Bly, the governess goes on to work for other families, who most certainly would not have hired her had there been the slightest whiff of anything untoward in her time at Bly. The whole 'ghosts are a figment of the repressed governess' insane imagination' angle was invented out of whole cloth by the literary critic Edmund Wilson, and does not appear in James' original. Truman Capote was intrigued by Wilson's glaring distortion of James' intent, and incorporated it when writing the screenplay for The Innocents. It certainly makes for a fascinating film, but there is no question but that it has nothing to do with the original novella. Something similar happens in the transfer to screen of another James story, Washington Square. In their quest to make the play and film The Heiress more dramatic and focused on the lead actress, the writers Ruth and Augustus Goetz redesigned the plot to give Catherine a sharper profile. In the original story she is a minor character, almost a cipher; James was far more interested in the father, the aunt and the faithless suitor. Again, a marvelous story was flattened and robbed of nuance in the process of making it into a film. Perhaps the only James adaptation worthy of the original is The Lost Moment, starring Agnes Moorehead, Susan Hayward and Robert Cummings. It retains and somehow even improves the mystical aura of The Aspern Papers, the tale on which it is based.
@@jasonhurd4379 Oh wow thanks so much for the information! Really intriguing changes.
@@jasonhurd4379 Wouldn’t say it’s flattened or robbed, not only because the film itself is spectacular and splendidly-directed (also, considering it’s 1961), but also that the original novella was ambiguous too.
I love the simplicity of a wide shot framing a figure in the distance in a horror film. Importantly she is very still, almost like a photograph which makes it so eery. It certainly wouldn't have the same effect if she took up more of the frame, the fact that she is quite a distance away in a black gown makes it hard to make out her features completely so it is so enigmatic and haunting.
Didn't realized the clip is only a little over two minutes...
... I'm left frightened for an eternity.
Well that was terrifying
im gonna watch this movie today because of this scene... this scene literally give me goosebumps
My brother freaking shared this scene to me at 3 A.M.!
But I eventually watched the rest of the film later on and this currently sits on top of all the scariest films I've seen.
I'm glad you got to watch the whole film; it's a great movie!
For me personally, this is my top haunting cinematic moment from all the horror films I've consumed in my life. It literally haunts me. Thank you for uploading ^__^
Same here, glad you liked it
Stop being dramatic. It’s just an old lady standing by a pond.
@@GodfatherAl102892 Young lady who committed suicide. IN the pond where she killed herself. That's scary.
Just seeing a picture of this scene sends shivers down my spine..
The lady in black reminds me the front cover of Black Sabbath.
It doesn't mention the movie in the wiki page for the album, but I am sure Ozzie must have been inspired by this scene.
Well it happened again. Goosebumps all over. Every time. Other movie versions have had this same scene, but they were not near as effective in the creepy category.
Only movie that I'm terrified to watch alone at night! Why am I back here????
Answer???
Same,I have to watch this movie at midday,not morning because I’m not a morning person and not at night because I‘ll start seeing Miss Jessel.
The first time I watched it I saw her at night for two weeks, and I swear to god that I saw her standing outside my sliding glass door and that she was making the weird droning sound that started when she appeared in this scene. Truly terrifying film!!
It's perfect splendid
This is one of the best horror scenes in history for me and its so simple. The part that immediately follows is just as horrifying though as she points out the woman to the child and the little girl starts screaming in fear and confusion as she sees nothing. Her horror is so realistic and disturbing it scares you in an entirely different way. Great horror movie. One of the very best.
Watched it yesterday March 28th
So good and creepy one of the few movies that actually scared me
I'd give it a 8/10
Very good very scary Deborah Kerr should have won an oscar for her performance
Critics say the ghosts are all in Miss Giddens' mind, yet she sees the ghost of the dead governess in the water, where she died. And Miss Giddens didn't know that until much later.
Something tells me Flora did see the lady in the lake. When she’s humming, you see her stare at something in the distance before the governess notices it.
Yes, but then when Miss Giddens asks 'Who is it? Over there?', Flora's brow furrows in confusion. She evidently has no idea what the governess is talking about.
I'd agree. "Over there" could mean loads of things - someone in the distance she hasn't noticed or someone behind them. Flora can't see where Miss Giddens is looking. She seems to know instantly that she's talking about Miss Jessel on the lake.
The cinematography and framings are amazing! We feel in front of an art exhibition so perfect are the compositions.
Is this movie the original version of Haunting of Bly Manor? Wow! Scary!
Yes! Both this movie and Bly Manor were based on the novel The Turn Of The Screw!
dani clayton in tv series is named after director of this movie jack clayton
Actually The haunting of bly manor is based on the turn of the screw, the romance of certain old clothes, sir Edmund omre, and the jolly corner
Based on the works of henry james
@@ishamondal2671 to anyone who watched the innocents( which is an adaptation of a play version of the turn of the screw) and bly , it is clear that primary inspiration for bly main plot line and art direction was the innocents. other stories of henry james mentioned are basically very changed almost separate sub plots of bly(like epiosde 6 and 8). director basically acknowledged that in naming dani clayton, after director of the innocents, jack clayton.
Thank you so much for posting this. It’s hard to put into words why some of us find this terrifying. It probably has to do with when you grew up and also this Has to be placed in the proper context. A one minute video clip does not do it justice when you have had all the preceding moments lead up to catching a glimpse of a ghostly figure dressed in black standing in the middle of a marsh where no figure should be standing and all the animals have suddenly gone quiet and you look again and she is gone and it dawns on you that she looks just like the person in the photo who died a year ago! All the CGI monsters can’t compare to that in my opinion. When I was 12 years old somehow it was OK for me to stay up late at night and see the movies “the haunting“, “the Innocents”, and The original “night of the living dead“ all coincidentally in black-and-white. This one scene has stayed with me 40 years later as one of the most chilling ever. It’s when you’re four years old and your parents close the bedroom door and there’s just enough light to see that the closet door is slightly open and you swear you saw something move for just a second and you know you just know what’s in there and you’re wondering when it’s going to come out.
Thank you for you kind words, I so much agree. This is not a film of my generation (I grew up in the 90s) but still I find it extremely chilling, even if it's just these 5 minutes. I guess it must be the masterful direction, editing, music, acting and cinematography.
I have watched horror films of all kinds and from different eras. This is the only film I genuinely cannot watch at night.
as a child this scene freaked me out the most
True horror creeps up on you, slowly and it’s unavoidable. Just like the ghosts in this movie that comes closer every time they appear. This scene will never fail to send shivers down my spine!
This scene scared me so much on my first viewing that I woke up thinking about it for a week afterwards. I don't mean waking up from a nightmare, I mean I woke up every morning with this scene in my head.
Beautiful wide screen deep focus photography
I always thought Flora didn't think anyone else could see her and that's why she turned around.
Excluding the obvious, the most unsettling part of the film is the amazing deep focus plane effect done without a split diopter. It's such a complicated setup even today and this was in 1961 with low light but the effect is really potent here when both subjects are so far away yet sharp. Then, unlike a split diopter, the blocking of when one subject dips behind the other is one of those technical show offs that wasn't needed but really highlight the mastery at play. Really messes with my head.
Horrifying......i still get nightmares
Terrifying! I love it... The woman reminds me a lot to the figure appearing on the first Black Sabbath album...anyone?
Maybe the company took some inspiration from here 9 years after? Who knows... btw, fantastic movie! ♥
So much stronger than all that horror crap they make today. Less is more, definitely.
This flick gave me a week of nightmares.
This is without a doubt still the best adaptation,despite the 1999 version being the most accurate to the novel.This one was simply more haunting and fleshed out the characters better than (I’d say)even the novel.
Which 1999 version?
Aura Zero The Turn of the Screw (1999) starring Jodhi May as the governess and Colin Firth as the Master.The 1999 adaptation was practically word per word of the book but didn’t have the right atmosphere,it was too...warm,not haunting,unlike this version.This version will always be my favorite.
@@shannonhughes203 thank you! I didn't know that one. I know what you're talking about, though not having seen the 99 film. Sometimes when novels are adapted too closely for screen, they lose the quality that would've made them special
I agree that this adaptation creates much more vivid characters than the novella did. The identical thing happened with The Heiress. Both Olivia de Havilland and Ralph Richardson gave their roles a much sharper profile and fuller dimensions than the characters had in the book. Interesting that both films are based on novellas by Henry James.
The ghost-like figure looks like the Black Sabbath album.
That lil bih gone drown that damn tortoise
Thank you. After 30 years, that scene held me captive in a moment of terror. Nice to revisit it. I knew someone would have uploaded it to RUclips.
Thank you for your nice comment and for watching!
Why does the quality of this look so good? The versions I have seen don't at all look this well.
I enjoyed Bly Manor, but this is way creepier.
I was probably 8yrs old the first time I saw this movie.....it freaked me out
AS a kid love this movie and still do!!!
If you've seen the whole film you know she appears again in the reeds in the lake - later on. Appears right at a crack of thunder - that scene always scared me cause I knew the governess would look up and see her again, just standing there, looking. The fact she apparently died by suicide in the lake makes it even creepier. But just...standing there looking. Awesome.
I inadvertently saw this when I was about 12 and slept with the light on for days after.
I'm not surprised
Her just standing across the lake staring and her shouting you see her don't you tell me see her is just bone chilling between this scene and the exorcist the scene where regans arms are all stretched out she's groening the demon statue appears 2 scenes that made my blood run cold
This movie used to scare the crap out of me .
you're not alone
@@Annie1962 yea the little girl in the beginning that was singing that song my lord 😨😰 creepy .
Brilliantly creepy
This scene gave me chills... Ohmygosh, it's so creepy!
Exactly! And it achieves this effect only by artful camera positioning and direction. (and music of course)
It's so depressing . All the poor lady (in the lake) wants is her baby, whom she would hold while she danced to this song.
Now that's how you do creepy!
O willow Wally creeps me out🙄
The origin of Japanese horror
No it's not, Japanese horror existed long before this film came into fruition. But I can see the similarities between the two.
Charlie- true but this movie could have had an influence on current Japanese horror
@@sweetcinnamonpnchkin Or rather much older Japanese Horror/Folker must've had a major influence on this movie. ☺
Freaky movie
Totally!
Very similar to the picture of the cover for the album Black Sabbath (1970)
That lullaby and the pale-faced lady in black standing too still and too willowy. Oof. Instant Pot insomnia.
I feel like a detective connecting this with Bly Manor
1:52 I can see where John carpenter got the still shots for Michael myers
love this movie however when i saw it it was in color and when i search for it in that manner, result ends the same no luck
Really? Didn't know a color version existed... IMDB lists this under black and white film
I actually saw it on t.v on I believe amc channel years ago and I only remember it because of the girl and I've searched for it all results lead to b&w its good either or.
@@gloriabarriga829 It was filmed in B&W
There are numerous film and TV versions of this story, including one done in the 80s I believe, with Lynn Redgrave as Miss Giddens and Megs Jenkins once again playing Mrs. Grose. You probably saw that version.
okay this was super creepy
How the heck is this freaky. I don't understand.
I dont know Bly Manor is have inspiration from The Innocent
No, just from the same novel. "The turn of the screw"
Not trying to be a jerk but I'm finding it hard to see what was so creepy about this scene???🤔 Was it just bc theres someone looking@them across the ways???
what a numptie
It’s more about the framing of the dark figure transfixed above the reeds. Far enough to not be threatening. Close enough to be looming.
If dark ominous figures floating above lakes aren't creepy to you, you should reconsider the potential of said things being...well, a threat...or at the very least, creepy.
Excellent interpretation. @@dwaynesbadchemicals