Nice. I did the mod on my controller but I used a USB C female to USB 2.0 male adapter which I disassembled to use the board itself (long story short, I can't import anything in my country so I can't buy that PCB, and breakout boards aren't sold here either), and for the bezel (which luckily I managed to have someone 3D print for me) I used super glue to keep the port in place, not the most elegant solution to be sure, but it seems to work just fine like that for now.
willing to swap my Xbox one s controller's mirco-usb port to type-c, since micro-usb cables r really not durable and the controller drains out batteries real fast
Awesome! I noticed in your video description that there are updated board revisions and that you reflowed some solder to fix an issue on your current board. Could you do a follow-up with the new board and your thoughts on it as well as your thoughts on the controller in this video after you reflowed the solder? I plan on doing this myself, as I'm sure many of us would like to, and your thoughts would help as a guide!
The issue with the new boards is that my 3D printed bezel won't work and it would have to be modified. I also made the bezel in tinkercad (I use an actual CAD suite now) and I just really can't be fucked to fix it. Maybe eventually but it's not something I have planned soon.
Heya! Great job and great video, I was wondering if you could help me out with something - I'm trying to repair and modify a used controller, but after opening it I noticed that the copper on the PCB is gone. I was thinking of just using jumper cables, but I don't really know what TPs to connect them to. Ground is easy enough to find, but I don't really have any idea for the rest. The board you're working on seems the same, do you happen to know if there are TP spots for the USB data lines?
Hello, i have recently started to watch your channel and i have been really enjoying your sp videos! I am planning to make an sp shell swapping video and u wanted to know if there's anything i should look out for while replacing the shell. I would gladly like to shout out your content for a more detailed version since i regularly make my shell swapping videos shorter and less detailed
I've done several videos on the SP, including a hinge removal tool showcase to make removing the hinges without damage very easy. Try searching my channel, there's a lot of stuff and it should all be tagged.
Did you have to cut away part of the housing at all? The round part of the 3d printed bezel doesnt slide all the way down into the housing. I also noticed the hole of the little notch it slides into is narrower than a usb-c port so I think it would need to be cut regardless.
Hey, Im trying to follow your tutorial, but its a bit late to ask now that I’ve ordered everything… about the thickness of the board (1.4 vs 0.8 mm), is there any parameters on the website that one should be aware of? And about the ali express order, when you talk about the ones that "straddle the edge of a board" you mean the ones with the tiny bit on board behind it right ? But anyways, thanks for this tutorial, it’s good to see that people are / were still on those devices in recent years.
Any chance of an updated video on the 1.4 version of the PCB + the new USB-C port part? I got the parts in but am hesitant to proceed without better instructions than the ones in the README. Or do you think this video would be a good enough guide? Have not watched it all the way yet since it's for a different version of the mod.
I don't intend on revisiting this at any point. v1.4 should be a lot easier to solder together and a lot more reliable due to how the port connects to the board but should be about the same. I don't know if my bezel fits as is. My motivation to work on this has been all but destroyed ever since microsoft started putting USB C ports on their xbox series controllers. It's a better controller with better compatibility and it comes with type-c out of the box.
@@makho Fair enough if you had PC usage in mind. My intent was to use the controller(s) with an actual Xbox 360. I did do the RGH 3 mod to several of them and enable the usbdsec patch so I can use unauthorized controllers, but for some reason the Xbox Series and Xbox One controllers still don't work unless I use a Magic NS 2 adapter. My Gulikit controller and a few others in xinput mode work without that adapter after the mod (they probably pretend to be an actual 360 controller which might help). My hope was also to prepare something cheap in bulk so I could prepare enough 360 controllers for 2-4 people besides myself for a semi-public setup. A USB-C port would be ideal because we were already using Flatbox controllers along with 10ft USB-C to A cables and unplugging/passing them when the person playing changed. I basically wanted to leave those same cables plugged in and have a more traditional controller than the Flatbox for when we're not playing fighting games so it would still be easy to pass the cable around without walking up to the console (and without anyone having to share controllers). I did end up giving the mod a try and had a pretty terrible time, so I put it on hold for now. I was just getting no signs of life when I hooked it up to a PC to test. At first I thought I soldered the C end wrong, but it might've actually been the pin headers since the example install picture on GitHub has them in an unusual spot compared to how I'm used to seeing pin headers used (like in keyboard builds), and I only soldered in half the spots I should've. In trying to get them back off to redo I tore the conductive area around 2/4 of the USB connector holes. One was a GND I could've maybe re-routed, but the other was one of the data pins. This was at least a broken controller I was working on, but now I'm hesitant to try it again on another controller. Sorry for the wall of text. Anyway, I'm probably gonna have to give up on this unless a decent guide pops up for me to follow, unfortunately. I still hadn't watched your video all the way through so I might still do that one of these days if it's similar enough of a process.
I own a usb charger kit cord. The backcharger dont work. But the cords work. So i have no idea what to do with them. And the videos on youtube show that the wire cannot use it to connect to pc. But could u fix that with sordering or something. Make them charger cords work for wired connection. To pc or phonesWithout buying reciever. Is it possible for u. To play games
wireless xbox 360 controllers cannot be hardwired. There is no mod for that. Buy an xbox one controller if you want a wireless controller that can be hardwired.
I'd love to convert my PS3 controller to USB C. I imagine it should be relatively simple because I don't think the PS3 controller's mini USB does anything special or proprietary, but I've never done a conversion. What do you think, Makho?
@@makho Do you mean that the mini USB port itself is larger than the USB C port; strictly port to port? Or are you including a breakout conversion board or something that would be necessary like in this 360 controller video you did? I'll gladly expand the hole required in the controller shell, but is there anything else you initially think of as a problem or concern?
@@MojojoJenkins you're going to have to come up with some way to adapt the port, and yes, expand the hole. USB C and Mini USB B are not even remotely similar in terms of pin layout and spacing.
idk if there is any connection but the original xbox controller used a custom usb port that had 5 wires. perhaps they were gonna use the old port and designed the pcb that way before the 360 was finalized?
I need a help here, what if the controller is working when the wire is wiggle from usb a side, can I just cut it and solder it again? Please let me know.
USB is USB, regardless of the connector form factor. Yes, these controllers work on PC. I doubt this adapter works with non-microsoft brand controllers. It's spaced specifically for MS controllers.
11:46 i think i just made the same mistake you did, ordered the thicker boards. But still haven't got them with me, so... is it worth even trying with a 1.6mm instead of a 0.8mm? [EDIT: No. What he meant was the fit inside of the board. Prior version was a perfect rectangular shape (11:41), plus the thickness. So getting a standard 1.6 should be OK, and not a problem.] (Note to self) 37:40 v1.4 is a slightly different joint with the female USBC port... ruclips.net/video/CxKuCp2d730/видео.html ruclips.net/video/N3oME8umDuw/видео.html [This one's the absolute best guide for Type C 31 M 12 installation, only catch is it's hindi. Turn CC on and bear with it.] ruclips.net/video/ydPFCHNuRGM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/e6TMxctCcxU/видео.html (these other videos give me an idea on how to install the newer version v1.4 boards). 58:50 Once the piece is soldered together, it's required to check the connection with a multimeter. Magic Number is 600ish ohms, which should be the correct voltage for this particular controller. None of them should be shorted.
Newer variant should be more forgiving with board thickness though I haven't actually tried it. The ports we used on the variant in the video are actually awful for this purpose
@@makho It took forever, but the TYPE C 31 M 12 connectors finally arrived at my country! So i'm going to be trying this mod out as soon as i get them get them. After that, i'll post the update on reddit and link that post into here 🙌🏻. I've watched this video very closely, and am keeping it as a guide, it's very very detailed. Thank you for sharing!
Plugged it in, worked perfectly. The bezel needed adjustment so i did a Tinkercad and remixed it from the old model at your thingiverse post, that might need some filing work. 0.8mm boards are actually much much better for this mod, as closing the controller back together is already tight with the 0.8mm. So in case you got the thicker ones, it's best to ditch those and order the 0.8mm. Do not touch the 4pins, they're not cuttable. The usb pads on these controllers are dumb easy to lift and break. Once you get this PCB in place, there's no turning back... So lucky i had a spare one to do several attempts with, now i gotta figure out how to fix it with the USB traces and jumperwires.
My buttons on my gba sp are sticking. Even when I press them on the motherboard they do not signal 100 percent of the time. Could you do a video or replacing them or another solution to this problem?
try cleaning them. Contact cleaner or IPA. The actual buttons on the PCB can be disassembled, just peel the tape up and you can lift the metal dome actuator.
How to make the battery verion controller to work with bluetooth and add type c in the original battery controller in the box. So it can be used as wired also.
Wireless 360 controllers only work via wireless. Xbone and newer started working both modes and One S and newer controllers have bluetooth built in. Series controllers have everything and USB C, might as well just get one of those.
@@makho yh but i have a whole set of xbox 360 controllers and dont know what the hell to do with them. I want know if u can mod it with phone parts like bluetooth and changing to type c. Else what else can i use it for.
just did this to a wired 360 controller except i used a breakout board that I had left over from another project and just used some wires not pretty but it works also just friction fit in there then clamped by the shell, but now i found out this controller has some stick drift and im havin a heck of a time sourcing some joystick boxes and recommendations anyone?
So u know the plastic wire controller. Rock candy xbox 360. That doesnt have a vibrator. Like the other controllers. I am watching right now and seeing the space for it. So how to u add vibration to the cheap plastic wire controller. Rock candy 360
How to add bluetooth to the xbox 360 controller. Not the syncing but actual bluetooth to work on any phone or bluetooh device without buying any doungle or wire to be showing. Just rechargable bluetooth controller. Like the new xbox controller works
@@makho yh but it would be cool to add it instead of throwing those controllers away. So we could have bluetooth controllers that can work for all platforms. Not everybody could afford those new controllers. Also there is the first xbox one version 1 model controller that dont have bluetooth. Just syncing. That doesnt work want to repair and add bluetooth. For the 360 controllers love to add bluetooth just so i could use it instead of throwing it in a corner and never use it again. Thats all but thanks for your content.
Does a right angle male through-hole JST connector exist? So you don't have to remove the controller's onboard connector? Just solder the male plug to the mod board and insert into controller's connector
Really nice man. We should all USB-C all the things.
Nice. I did the mod on my controller but I used a USB C female to USB 2.0 male adapter which I disassembled to use the board itself (long story short, I can't import anything in my country so I can't buy that PCB, and breakout boards aren't sold here either), and for the bezel (which luckily I managed to have someone 3D print for me) I used super glue to keep the port in place, not the most elegant solution to be sure, but it seems to work just fine like that for now.
That's probably for the best, the rigid connection seems to be unreliable on the custom boards with the edge ports
Are you the same guy on reddit who used an Xbox 360 clone controller?
Great video, I heard red usernames were cursed though. Hope to see you soon :)
willing to swap my Xbox one s controller's mirco-usb port to type-c, since micro-usb cables r really not durable and the controller drains out batteries real fast
Nice video! Love how you upload very often. (:
Have you ever heard of sendico? It would save you a ton of money when in comes to game consoles. (;
Awesome!
I noticed in your video description that there are updated board revisions and that you reflowed some solder to fix an issue on your current board. Could you do a follow-up with the new board and your thoughts on it as well as your thoughts on the controller in this video after you reflowed the solder?
I plan on doing this myself, as I'm sure many of us would like to, and your thoughts would help as a guide!
The issue with the new boards is that my 3D printed bezel won't work and it would have to be modified. I also made the bezel in tinkercad (I use an actual CAD suite now) and I just really can't be fucked to fix it. Maybe eventually but it's not something I have planned soon.
@@makho Oh, I see. Thanks for responding, man! Love your long-form videos! USB-C all the things!
Heya! Great job and great video, I was wondering if you could help me out with something - I'm trying to repair and modify a used controller, but after opening it I noticed that the copper on the PCB is gone. I was thinking of just using jumper cables, but I don't really know what TPs to connect them to. Ground is easy enough to find, but I don't really have any idea for the rest. The board you're working on seems the same, do you happen to know if there are TP spots for the USB data lines?
I don't have any schematics for these controllers, sorry.
Hello, i have recently started to watch your channel and i have been really enjoying your sp videos! I am planning to make an sp shell swapping video and u wanted to know if there's anything i should look out for while replacing the shell. I would gladly like to shout out your content for a more detailed version since i regularly make my shell swapping videos shorter and less detailed
I've done several videos on the SP, including a hinge removal tool showcase to make removing the hinges without damage very easy. Try searching my channel, there's a lot of stuff and it should all be tagged.
Did you have to cut away part of the housing at all? The round part of the 3d printed bezel doesnt slide all the way down into the housing. I also noticed the hole of the little notch it slides into is narrower than a usb-c port so I think it would need to be cut regardless.
Yep, it needed some filing. I'd like to revisit this some day but I'm unlikely to get around to it.
Hey, Im trying to follow your tutorial, but its a bit late to ask now that I’ve ordered everything… about the thickness of the board (1.4 vs 0.8 mm), is there any parameters on the website that one should be aware of? And about the ali express order, when you talk about the ones that "straddle the edge of a board" you mean the ones with the tiny bit on board behind it right ? But anyways, thanks for this tutorial, it’s good to see that people are / were still on those devices in recent years.
no, not at all. You need bare ports for this if you're using the adapter board.
Any chance of an updated video on the 1.4 version of the PCB + the new USB-C port part? I got the parts in but am hesitant to proceed without better instructions than the ones in the README. Or do you think this video would be a good enough guide? Have not watched it all the way yet since it's for a different version of the mod.
I don't intend on revisiting this at any point. v1.4 should be a lot easier to solder together and a lot more reliable due to how the port connects to the board but should be about the same. I don't know if my bezel fits as is.
My motivation to work on this has been all but destroyed ever since microsoft started putting USB C ports on their xbox series controllers. It's a better controller with better compatibility and it comes with type-c out of the box.
@@makho Fair enough if you had PC usage in mind. My intent was to use the controller(s) with an actual Xbox 360. I did do the RGH 3 mod to several of them and enable the usbdsec patch so I can use unauthorized controllers, but for some reason the Xbox Series and Xbox One controllers still don't work unless I use a Magic NS 2 adapter. My Gulikit controller and a few others in xinput mode work without that adapter after the mod (they probably pretend to be an actual 360 controller which might help).
My hope was also to prepare something cheap in bulk so I could prepare enough 360 controllers for 2-4 people besides myself for a semi-public setup. A USB-C port would be ideal because we were already using Flatbox controllers along with 10ft USB-C to A cables and unplugging/passing them when the person playing changed. I basically wanted to leave those same cables plugged in and have a more traditional controller than the Flatbox for when we're not playing fighting games so it would still be easy to pass the cable around without walking up to the console (and without anyone having to share controllers).
I did end up giving the mod a try and had a pretty terrible time, so I put it on hold for now. I was just getting no signs of life when I hooked it up to a PC to test. At first I thought I soldered the C end wrong, but it might've actually been the pin headers since the example install picture on GitHub has them in an unusual spot compared to how I'm used to seeing pin headers used (like in keyboard builds), and I only soldered in half the spots I should've. In trying to get them back off to redo I tore the conductive area around 2/4 of the USB connector holes. One was a GND I could've maybe re-routed, but the other was one of the data pins. This was at least a broken controller I was working on, but now I'm hesitant to try it again on another controller.
Sorry for the wall of text. Anyway, I'm probably gonna have to give up on this unless a decent guide pops up for me to follow, unfortunately. I still hadn't watched your video all the way through so I might still do that one of these days if it's similar enough of a process.
Great video! Can it be done on a wireless Ps3 controller, since it Mimi USB it's no longer around anymore...
I own a usb charger kit cord. The backcharger dont work. But the cords work. So i have no idea what to do with them. And the videos on youtube show that the wire cannot use it to connect to pc. But could u fix that with sordering or something. Make them charger cords work for wired connection. To pc or phonesWithout buying reciever. Is it possible for u. To play games
wireless xbox 360 controllers cannot be hardwired. There is no mod for that. Buy an xbox one controller if you want a wireless controller that can be hardwired.
great vid
I'd love to convert my PS3 controller to USB C. I imagine it should be relatively simple because I don't think the PS3 controller's mini USB does anything special or proprietary, but I've never done a conversion. What do you think, Makho?
USB C is physically bigger so you'd have to make room if you are replacing the port.
@@makho Do you mean that the mini USB port itself is larger than the USB C port; strictly port to port? Or are you including a breakout conversion board or something that would be necessary like in this 360 controller video you did?
I'll gladly expand the hole required in the controller shell, but is there anything else you initially think of as a problem or concern?
@@MojojoJenkins you're going to have to come up with some way to adapt the port, and yes, expand the hole. USB C and Mini USB B are not even remotely similar in terms of pin layout and spacing.
@@makho OK, cool. That's what I thought but I just wanted to see what your thoughts were.
Thanks for continuing to put out good, detailed content!
Thank You!
idk if there is any connection but the original xbox controller used a custom usb port that had 5 wires. perhaps they were gonna use the old port and designed the pcb that way before the 360 was finalized?
I think the 5th wire (yellow?) on OG Xbox was for light gun sync
I want to get everything usb c
I need a help here, what if the controller is working when the wire is wiggle from usb a side, can I just cut it and solder it again? Please let me know.
depends on where the issue is. Are you sure it's not an issue with the plug itself or the port?
@@makho No, there is no issue with the port, I'm really sure that its the issue with the plug
@@sultan2724. splice on a new plug
Hi there, would it be possible to just skip the usbc to usbc steps and just take the prexisting cable, splice it open and reattach to a usbc?
assuming it's wired properly, sure. USB is USB. Not sure why you'd want to do it that way though
Will u do a xbox 360 type c mod giveaway anytime soon
no
Awsome. Nice trick❤️
Is there any way to convert xbox 360 wireless controller to wired with full support on pc?
not that I'm aware of
Does it works for PC and for inalambric xbox 360 controllers?
USB is USB, regardless of the connector form factor. Yes, these controllers work on PC.
I doubt this adapter works with non-microsoft brand controllers. It's spaced specifically for MS controllers.
are you planning to do something with that wiiremote?
beyond cleaning and using it to play Wii? No
11:46 i think i just made the same mistake you did, ordered the thicker boards. But still haven't got them with me, so... is it worth even trying with a 1.6mm instead of a 0.8mm?
[EDIT: No. What he meant was the fit inside of the board. Prior version was a perfect rectangular shape (11:41), plus the thickness. So getting a standard 1.6 should be OK, and not a problem.]
(Note to self)
37:40 v1.4 is a slightly different joint with the female USBC port...
ruclips.net/video/CxKuCp2d730/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/N3oME8umDuw/видео.html [This one's the absolute best guide for Type C 31 M 12 installation, only catch is it's hindi. Turn CC on and bear with it.]
ruclips.net/video/ydPFCHNuRGM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/e6TMxctCcxU/видео.html (these other videos give me an idea on how to install the newer version v1.4 boards).
58:50 Once the piece is soldered together, it's required to check the connection with a multimeter. Magic Number is 600ish ohms, which should be the correct voltage for this particular controller. None of them should be shorted.
Newer variant should be more forgiving with board thickness though I haven't actually tried it. The ports we used on the variant in the video are actually awful for this purpose
@@makho It took forever, but the TYPE C 31 M 12 connectors finally arrived at my country! So i'm going to be trying this mod out as soon as i get them get them. After that, i'll post the update on reddit and link that post into here 🙌🏻.
I've watched this video very closely, and am keeping it as a guide, it's very very detailed. Thank you for sharing!
Plugged it in, worked perfectly. The bezel needed adjustment so i did a Tinkercad and remixed it from the old model at your thingiverse post, that might need some filing work. 0.8mm boards are actually much much better for this mod, as closing the controller back together is already tight with the 0.8mm. So in case you got the thicker ones, it's best to ditch those and order the 0.8mm. Do not touch the 4pins, they're not cuttable.
The usb pads on these controllers are dumb easy to lift and break. Once you get this PCB in place, there's no turning back... So lucky i had a spare one to do several attempts with, now i gotta figure out how to fix it with the USB traces and jumperwires.
Can this be done with the xbox 1 controller? I mean, replacing the old USB port with a USB type C one?
sure. But if you have to ask, I'm not sure that you'll be able to do it. Electrically the port is compatible.
@@makho is it a straight swap? Do I need to swap to a compatible pcb?
@@h33tology That's kinda what I mean. Micro USB is a physically smaller port so you'll have to get creative.
is it easily possible to do a usb-c mod with a ps4 controller?
try it and let me know
Do you have pinout of xbox 360 controller? I mean usb cable pinout
It's color coded. Image search for USB pinout and you'll find the standard colors.
@@makho Thanks
My buttons on my gba sp are sticking. Even when I press them on the motherboard they do not signal 100 percent of the time. Could you do a video or replacing them or another solution to this problem?
try cleaning them. Contact cleaner or IPA. The actual buttons on the PCB can be disassembled, just peel the tape up and you can lift the metal dome actuator.
Hope you'll be back soon ❤️
Can you make such a mod for a wireless gamepad?
I will not if that's what you're asking. But it can be done.
How to make the battery verion controller to work with bluetooth and add type c in the original battery controller in the box. So it can be used as wired also.
Wireless 360 controllers only work via wireless. Xbone and newer started working both modes and One S and newer controllers have bluetooth built in. Series controllers have everything and USB C, might as well just get one of those.
@@makho yh but i have a whole set of xbox 360 controllers and dont know what the hell to do with them. I want know if u can mod it with phone parts like bluetooth and changing to type c. Else what else can i use it for.
just did this to a wired 360 controller except i used a breakout board that I had left over from another project and just used some wires not pretty but it works also just friction fit in there then clamped by the shell,
but now i found out this controller has some stick drift and im havin a heck of a time sourcing some joystick boxes and recommendations anyone?
Hi Makho can you do this with a regular xbox one controller?
USB C ports are bigger than Micro USB so it's not always that easy. I don't know.
Okey thanks for the info.
So u know the plastic wire controller. Rock candy xbox 360. That doesnt have a vibrator. Like the other controllers. I am watching right now and seeing the space for it. So how to u add vibration to the cheap plastic wire controller. Rock candy 360
Idk, I don’t think it was even built for vibration.
How to add bluetooth to the xbox 360 controller. Not the syncing but actual bluetooth to work on any phone or bluetooh device without buying any doungle or wire to be showing. Just rechargable bluetooth controller. Like the new xbox controller works
not worth bothering since the new one has this feature already
@@makho yh but it would be cool to add it instead of throwing those controllers away. So we could have bluetooth controllers that can work for all platforms. Not everybody could afford those new controllers. Also there is the first xbox one version 1 model controller that dont have bluetooth. Just syncing. That doesnt work want to repair and add bluetooth. For the 360 controllers love to add bluetooth just so i could use it instead of throwing it in a corner and never use it again. Thats all but thanks for your content.
MMmmmmm. Mystery hand cheese...
goes well when shredded on pizza or pasta
can it be done on a ps4 controller ?
not with the method shown in this video
Cool
Can you do Xbox one to usb c?
I was going to but then Microsoft beat me to it
I wish u was living in trinidad. So i could pay u to install this mod for me. I got a whole set of xbox 360 controllers.
can you do a way to do it to miro usb?
it's 2020, buy an old xbone controller if you want micro usb
micro usb cables / ports wears out quickly. Better USB Mini B or USB C
Type c is the best
i wish i can give my you controller to install this mod😭
Me too.I got a whole set of xbox 360 controllers. Wish he lived in trinidad and tobago. So i could pay him to install this mod for me.
Geez everything but a vita charge part
fuck off
@@makho it was a joke?
Does a right angle male through-hole JST connector exist? So you don't have to remove the controller's onboard connector? Just solder the male plug to the mod board and insert into controller's connector
Any recommendations on rechargeable batteries for xbox one controllers?
ikea ladda
@@makho damn, ikea won't ship to Alaska. Guess I'll pay the ebay scalpers.