Thomas fans: **Arguing whether the E2 or the J50 is the better basis for Thomas.** Awdry: *"This Hudswell Clarke engine is Thomas now. Deal with it.".*
@@danielferrovias I know, I was just joking. You're free to interpret the character however you want. Personally, I like to think that Thomas is an E2, but due to his rebuild in 1960 in which he gained a flat running board, he is a unique variation of the E2 design.
This "Thomas" is probably the most star studded Thomas out of all the ones that have been seen at Heritage railways... it was the subject of a triple header special train that inspired Christopher Awdry to write "Triple Header", he lives on a railway that's played host to Roger Moore in the James Bond film "Octopussy", "Thomas" even enjoyed a nice day in the limelight with the BBC in 1995 during the height of a Children's TV revolution, on a kids magazine show called "Playdays" alongside children's TV personality Dave Benson Phillips on a run up to Ferry Meadows (I kid you not). He's even canon in the lore of the Thomas universe, with it making out he's always wanted to meet Thomas in person (a nice little concept for people of the pen there).
I think it’d be kinda interesting if somebody wrote a story about Thomas meeting an “A day out with Thomas” engine. Imagine Thomas meeting an engine pretending to be him…
I'm not sure but I think someone did write a story like that in the extended railway series on the Sodor Island forums. I may be wrong but I think I remember reading something like that.
Trivia fact: Dr. Beeching, the chairman of BR, happened to be on a train that had broke down and was stunned to find that the rescue engine pulling was, not Flying Scotsman, but the Nene Valley Railway Thomas itself pulling it.
And I have 1 tip for your weekly kipper video that was posted a couple of days ago to deal with the marker on Bertram tender rubbing alcohol does the trick
Great video, but at 2:26 that's the wrong locomotive. That's Gothenburg, another 0-6-0 based with the Manchester Ship Canal, and later the East Lancashire Railway. She was built in 1901. Its quite easy to tell them apart as 1800 has outside cylinder, a Westinghouse Pump by her smokebox, and a gap in her boiler. 32 Gothenburg has shorter tanks and is generally smaller in comparison. I think 32 deserves her own video, as she has an interesting history and plays thomas at a railway in Poland. Edit: Another difference is that 1800 still has a black running board, however 32 changes, she sometimes wears a black running board when in MSC Dark Blue, and a white one when she is dressed up as 'Thomas' 32 is 121 yrs old and also was one of the first engines to arrive at the East Lan-ca-shire (to help pronunciation, the I is silent) railway in 1985-87. Back then, the railway was a menial 4 miles. Now, that has trebled to 12 miles of line running through Manchester and into Lancashire.
You might like to look into the Llangollen railways Thomas. I believe it started as an austerity tank was put into a children's playground in Cardiff then moved up to North Wales to be converted
I love when I search the name of this engine your video is one of the first results that pops up Lance, if I do decide to make a more developed TTTE AU then this engine would totally be my portrayal of Thomas.
I remember that Thomas engine so well, having been to the Nene Valley Railway. But I hadn't been in ages until I came to the Thomas Birthday Bash last year to ride behind Thomas, and boy, was it awesome! 😄
I’ve been on one of these Thomas replicas as a kid. One in a Day Out with Thomas event in Llansamlet in Swansea. But I think the one I went on was a jinty.
I remember years ago when I was very little, it was when day out with Thomas was on but there was one problem Thomas had broken down so he wasn't running. That night I went to where I was staying as I was on holiday and I made thomas a get well card. The next day we went to the station where he was to deliver the card and that's when the engineer came to the station and offered to take me to see him. So I did we went out to the yard and there he was and I even got to sit in his cab still have the pictures somewhere. The engineer even put the card I made over Thomas's fireplace. It wasn't this thomas but it was still a thomas and in fact toad was in front of him.
My local railway. It is the only thomas in the world that doesn’t need a license as the Rev named it himself, and a fair few of the thomas/percy stories are based on this loco. Triple header in the RWS stories
They do (did?) have a quite interesting international collection. There are 2 or 3 danish engines (which can be seen in the James Bond movie Octopussy) and a German Class 64 tank engine too.
Yes large selection of international locos and rolling stock at NVR. Including American, Swedish, Danish, Italian, Belgian, Norwegian, Polish and German.
Here is a bit of my headcanon for Thomas. Apparently he was built by Hudswell Clarke as a inside cylinder tank engine in 1914 and the tests proved mostly successful (the extended tanks aren’t exclusive to the E2s) and in 1915 he was sent to Sodor to help with the construction and in 1916 he was sold to Sodor due to them not having a use to him. Henceforth our Number 1 was official.
Always nice to see a video on this blue lad. Would love to see you cover the Mid Hants Railway's Thomas at some point. It was constructed in 1994 during the height of the TV Series's popularity and wheres Nene Valley Thomas is based on the RWS version of the character, the Mid Hants Thomas is directly based on the TV Version with Britt Allcroft and Co having a fairly big say during the engine's construction such as making the decision to give the engine a sloped running board like in the TV Series.
As well as a video about the Mid-Hants Railway's Thomas, I would like to see a video about the Mid-Hants Railway's Douglas and even the two Maunsell 2-6-0 locomotives they repainted red as James.
I feel Awdrys general dissatisfaction with the illustrations/the general real world lackluster performance of the E2 led to the approval of this Thomas, as it feels like with both possibilities fitting Awdrys later canonical changes to Thomas' appearance, as well as having the sort of history the Rev. Either liked the real world basises for his engines to have, or would write for one of the engines himself. Honestly the history of this engine feels very at home with the History of Sodor: it's people and places, etc.
this engine and the fowler no. 5265 really just feel like thomas. if only I could visit the uk and see the real thomas because that would make my five year old self so happy
Yes although this one is my favourite, the one at the mid-hants is i think is probably as acurate as you ca get for a (working) life-size thomas. Originally it was a Austerity saddle tank believe it or not ! They also used to have a Douglas replica (also made from an Austerity). For both all that was done was either change the saddle to side tanks or (in douglas's case) a Tender (and repainted of course).
Probably issues with Mattel copyright :/ I didn’t mention it in the video but they actually tried to sue the Nene for calling it Thomas, however the lawsuit fell through since the CREATOR of Thomas is who named it such.
I've heard about this Thomas and wanted to see it for quite some time. Also nice job at butchuring the pronounciation for Leicester which is the city I live in lol.
Have a word with your representative it’s time for a simpler name 🤣 Jokes aside thank you man! I’m just not as familiar with the pronunciations of British locations most of the time.
@@ItsTrainBoy Hey there. I'm a huge Thomas fan myself ever since I was a Kid. I really appreciate the info that you post and share with us about Thomas (some funny, some informative). I was wondering if you could cover some info behind another Reverend Awdry story that wasn't adapted to Television titled "Super Rescue" which is said to be based on a real event for another entry for your based on a true story series. I tried finding any info about the event, but nothing seems to come up. I was hoping you could perhaps dig up some information on this classic Reverend W. Awdry and share it with other Railway Series fans as well as satisfy my curiosity. Many Thanks.
Just a little one for you matey, I’m from Leicester and it’s genuinely pronounced “Les-Ter” or locally “Les- Tah”. Hope this helps! Great video all the same!
Eh, at least I acknowledge it. I’m just not as familiar with British locations myself. It’s much better than it used to be if that helps haha Also didn’t know *sus* was an actual term people were using now, oof 🤣
Being not from England I have to say, it cracks me up how much people get offended by it, personally I’ve never been upset by people mispronouncing things from places they aren’t from. 🤣 Thank you for that though my man and I’ll keep that in mind next time I run into them!!
Thomas fans: **Arguing whether the E2 or the J50 is the better basis for Thomas.**
Awdry: *"This Hudswell Clarke engine is Thomas now. Deal with it.".*
Jinty Thomas: Finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!
THOMAS. is any tank engine you can imagine. It's just by your point of view. I honestly preffer him as his own class of locomotive
@@danielferrovias I know, I was just joking. You're free to interpret the character however you want.
Personally, I like to think that Thomas is an E2, but due to his rebuild in 1960 in which he gained a flat running board, he is a unique variation of the E2 design.
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@@NorthWestern1919 yeah. i know you were joking, i'm just giving a hoot about this stupid fight over locomotive's basis
This "Thomas" is probably the most star studded Thomas out of all the ones that have been seen at Heritage railways... it was the subject of a triple header special train that inspired Christopher Awdry to write "Triple Header", he lives on a railway that's played host to Roger Moore in the James Bond film "Octopussy", "Thomas" even enjoyed a nice day in the limelight with the BBC in 1995 during the height of a Children's TV revolution, on a kids magazine show called "Playdays" alongside children's TV personality Dave Benson Phillips on a run up to Ferry Meadows (I kid you not). He's even canon in the lore of the Thomas universe, with it making out he's always wanted to meet Thomas in person (a nice little concept for people of the pen there).
I think it’d be kinda interesting if somebody wrote a story about Thomas meeting an “A day out with Thomas” engine. Imagine Thomas meeting an engine pretending to be him…
such a fun idea, Thomas Percy and James going to a railway with pretend versions of themselves
I'm not sure but I think someone did write a story like that in the extended railway series on the Sodor Island forums.
I may be wrong but I think I remember reading something like that.
It'd be nice to see someone do an episode in TRAINZ with this premise.
alright im fucking doing that hands down
Identity theft is not a joke, (Insert DOWT engine’s name here)! Millions of railways suffer every year!
I like those Hudswell Clarke side tanks in general, I find them pleasingly chunky.
And oddly aesthetically pleasing as well, or at least that’s me 😅
Very nice!
You know, sometimes I wonder how things would be if an actual E2 had survived. It would probably be dressed up as Thomas all the time!
Yes and since the railway series got popular the e2 would have been fixed from its problems and the 1st day ou with thomas
Trivia fact: Dr. Beeching, the chairman of BR, happened to be on a train that had broke down and was stunned to find that the rescue engine pulling was, not Flying Scotsman, but the Nene Valley Railway Thomas itself pulling it.
As someone who lives in Peterborough and has seen this Thomas several times, I seriously appreciate you showing love for this one.
Such a beautiful engine.
Yup
4:10 BASED THOMAS
Thank you Trainboy I live near the Nene Valley Railway I cant believe my local heritage railway runs an official Awdry dubbed locomotive
Awdry knew what he was doing
And I have 1 tip for your weekly kipper video that was posted a couple of days ago to deal with the marker on Bertram tender rubbing alcohol does the trick
Great video, but at 2:26 that's the wrong locomotive.
That's Gothenburg, another 0-6-0 based with the Manchester Ship Canal, and later the East Lancashire Railway. She was built in 1901. Its quite easy to tell them apart as 1800 has outside cylinder, a Westinghouse Pump by her smokebox, and a gap in her boiler.
32 Gothenburg has shorter tanks and is generally smaller in comparison.
I think 32 deserves her own video, as she has an interesting history and plays thomas at a railway in Poland.
Edit: Another difference is that 1800 still has a black running board, however 32 changes, she sometimes wears a black running board when in MSC Dark Blue, and a white one when she is dressed up as 'Thomas'
32 is 121 yrs old and also was one of the first engines to arrive at the East Lan-ca-shire (to help pronunciation, the I is silent) railway in 1985-87. Back then, the railway was a menial 4 miles. Now, that has trebled to 12 miles of line running through Manchester and into Lancashire.
Ah shoot my mistake! Thanks for the help man! :)
He used a photo of another engine and you proceed to write a 10000000 page essay on how the locos are different
😅💀
You might like to look into the Llangollen railways Thomas. I believe it started as an austerity tank was put into a children's playground in Cardiff then moved up to North Wales to be converted
Nice video. It's interesting to know that this was the first one
Massive hot take right here.
1800 is the perfect Thomas, not even Strasburg can compare and I will DIE ON THIS HILL.
I shall stand with; and fight with you on this hill I agree. 😤
I mean, this engine was christened as Thomas by Awdry himself. That alone makes it the perfect Thomas in my opinion.
@@NorthWestern1919 Awdry saw potential in this little Industrial engine.
I will stand on the hill
"I also probably butchered that"
Hahaaa you did it is Came-bridge my dude, love your vids tho man!
....I now patiently wait for the one person out there on the internet to make a model replica of the Hudswell Thomas
Check out @DaneTank656 on Twitter; he’s made a spot on one!
@@ItsTrainBoy And just like that, waiting has paid off. Thanks, imma go look at it now!
we've done it boys, we found the one, true Thomas, deemed so by Awdry himself, the search is finally over
I'd like to see people make models of THIS!
Very interesting... Also I used to watch Thomas as a kid and learning this is really interesting.
0:01 I’ve been there loads of times
a very fitting reference to the railway series
It's a unique engine learning about its history of how it got its name Thomas and become the first DOWT engine before it became big
4:09 that was genuinely a better jumpscare than what most analog horror videos have
Now..if only someone decided to do a fan story of ether Thomas visits Sodor or Thomas visits the Nene Valley
I love when I search the name of this engine your video is one of the first results that pops up Lance, if I do decide to make a more developed TTTE AU then this engine would totally be my portrayal of Thomas.
It’s Thomas the Tank Engine himself!!
Strasburg might have a good looking steaming Thomas, but I prefer this one, it is THE thomas
This has to be one of the coolest things I just learned
😱I can’t believe the actual writer of the books named an engine after one of his own characters
I remember that Thomas engine so well, having been to the Nene Valley Railway. But I hadn't been in ages until I came to the Thomas Birthday Bash last year to ride behind Thomas, and boy, was it awesome! 😄
as much as I would like this one to be my favorite, the one at straspburg is my favorite, it’s just so perfect, and feels so wholesome.
You should make this as a model
Only £100 for the engine? I thought it would've cost more than that.
£100...back in the day. Today with inflation and all would be a LOT more than that.
Me who works on a locomotive three times it’s size that was literally purchased from the city for one dollar
haha! i love to see a video on this thomas; its a huge part of my childhood!
I’ve been on one of these Thomas replicas as a kid. One in a Day Out with Thomas event in Llansamlet in Swansea. But I think the one I went on was a jinty.
I remember years ago when I was very little, it was when day out with Thomas was on but there was one problem Thomas had broken down so he wasn't running. That night I went to where I was staying as I was on holiday and I made thomas a get well card. The next day we went to the station where he was to deliver the card and that's when the engineer came to the station and offered to take me to see him. So I did we went out to the yard and there he was and I even got to sit in his cab still have the pictures somewhere. The engineer even put the card I made over Thomas's fireplace. It wasn't this thomas but it was still a thomas and in fact toad was in front of him.
This engine just has charm to it. It feels like Thomas!
0:10 *The regular law breaker.*
Whit the Jinty one, Those are my favorite real-life Thomas.
My local railway. It is the only thomas in the world that doesn’t need a license as the Rev named it himself, and a fair few of the thomas/percy stories are based on this loco. Triple header in the RWS stories
Great video trainboy
uhh how tf was this comment 4 hours ago
@@theofficialSeir9 there's this thing called Patreon
@@M1chael42O1 wait so on Patreon you can just watch RUclips videos early?
@@theofficialSeir9 They’re posted there a day early if they’re ever finished on time; it’s one of the perks of it haha
2:41 "Good gracious me! There's Thomas! Headlines too!"
FAMOUS ENGINE AT RAILWAY SOCIETY
POLICE CALLED TO CONTROL CROWDS
I grew up around this specific locomotive as I live in Northamptonshire; not far from Peterborough
Awesome!! 😎
Perfection
There is an interesting engine on Nene Valley Railway. One from Poland to be precise. I think it would be interesting topic.
They do (did?) have a quite interesting international collection. There are 2 or 3 danish engines (which can be seen in the James Bond movie Octopussy) and a German Class 64 tank engine too.
Yes large selection of international locos and rolling stock at NVR.
Including American, Swedish, Danish, Italian, Belgian, Norwegian, Polish and German.
Here is a bit of my headcanon for Thomas.
Apparently he was built by Hudswell Clarke as a inside cylinder tank engine in 1914 and the tests proved mostly successful (the extended tanks aren’t exclusive to the E2s) and in 1915 he was sent to Sodor to help with the construction and in 1916 he was sold to Sodor due to them not having a use to him.
Henceforth our Number 1 was official.
Another great by another great youtuber
Would you ever make a video about the Okinawa railway? Going more in depth about it’s DOWT events?
Always nice to see a video on this blue lad. Would love to see you cover the Mid Hants Railway's Thomas at some point. It was constructed in 1994 during the height of the TV Series's popularity and wheres Nene Valley Thomas is based on the RWS version of the character, the Mid Hants Thomas is directly based on the TV Version with Britt Allcroft and Co having a fairly big say during the engine's construction such as making the decision to give the engine a sloped running board like in the TV Series.
As well as a video about the Mid-Hants Railway's Thomas, I would like to see a video about the Mid-Hants Railway's Douglas and even the two Maunsell 2-6-0 locomotives they repainted red as James.
Canonical irl Thomas has outside pistons and I don’t know how to feel about this
Workers: “This engine isn’t Thomas.”
Awdry: “From now on, this engine shall be known as Thomas.”
Workers: “okay.”
I feel Awdrys general dissatisfaction with the illustrations/the general real world lackluster performance of the E2 led to the approval of this Thomas, as it feels like with both possibilities fitting Awdrys later canonical changes to Thomas' appearance, as well as having the sort of history the Rev. Either liked the real world basises for his engines to have, or would write for one of the engines himself. Honestly the history of this engine feels very at home with the History of Sodor: it's people and places, etc.
this engine and the fowler no. 5265 really just feel like thomas. if only I could visit the uk and see the real thomas because that would make my five year old self so happy
I feel ya brother man, I feel ya
ive always thought the thomas at the Watercress line/Mid Hants Railway really looked the part.
Yes although this one is my favourite, the one at the mid-hants is i think is probably as acurate as you ca get for a (working) life-size thomas. Originally it was a Austerity saddle tank believe it or not ! They also used to have a Douglas replica (also made from an Austerity). For both all that was done was either change the saddle to side tanks or (in douglas's case) a Tender (and repainted of course).
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing a video on the engines of the Oigawa railway
Unfortunately he is currently undergoing major boiler work following sevire waisting to the boiler tubes.
First photo is of the Llangollen Railway in North Wales.....it seems to be when you post a video lately it's by where I live lol
0:07 Oh look, it's Brechin! Wait, is that Harlaxton dressed as Thomas, or is that a guest locomotive?
Those E2s should have never been scrapped!
You should do the Erie Triplexes for a topic on this subject
*Based Thomas*
“100 dollars for a tank engine named Thomas?”
“an official one, Mr. Boston, an official one”, said the Thin Clergyman.
Based thomas
I wonder why model railway companies haven’t made models of this particular locomotive in Thomas fashion? 🤔
Probably issues with Mattel copyright :/
I didn’t mention it in the video but they actually tried to sue the Nene for calling it Thomas, however the lawsuit fell through since the CREATOR of Thomas is who named it such.
@@ItsTrainBoy at least Wilbert got credit
It’s funny, they spent 100 on him and 100,000 on a overhaul
4:09 he's bass bcause he acknowledges the state of "la kreskas"
I've heard about this Thomas and wanted to see it for quite some time. Also nice job at butchuring the pronounciation for Leicester which is the city I live in lol.
Have a word with your representative it’s time for a simpler name 🤣
Jokes aside thank you man! I’m just not as familiar with the pronunciations of British locations most of the time.
@@ItsTrainBoy Hey there. I'm a huge Thomas fan myself ever since I was a Kid. I really appreciate the info that you post and share with us about Thomas (some funny, some informative). I was wondering if you could cover some info behind another Reverend Awdry story that wasn't adapted to Television titled "Super Rescue" which is said to be based on a real event for another entry for your based on a true story series. I tried finding any info about the event, but nothing seems to come up. I was hoping you could perhaps dig up some information on this classic Reverend W. Awdry and share it with other Railway Series fans as well as satisfy my curiosity. Many Thanks.
The brazilian Tengugal locomotive, a Sharp Stuart 0-10-0 that survived a shipwreck
2:54 Leicester is pronounced Lester and Cambridge is pronounced came bridge
Now I wait for someone to make The Hudswell Clarke Thomas in Trainz.
Just a little one for you matey, I’m from Leicester and it’s genuinely pronounced “Les-Ter” or locally “Les- Tah”.
Hope this helps!
Great video all the same!
Beat me to it. We don't make it easy for the rest of the world.
@@SeaKing61 Nah, we like to be difficult sods at the end of the day.
If it help Leicester is pronounced "Lester".
Wait SWINDON Works is STILL OPERATING?
Ngl but some of it kinda reminded me of the dark side of the day out with Thomas event a little
I can’t believe I’m early
Why can I see trainboy making a custom of this engine now?
At least it kind of looks like Thomas
This official thomas is a great thomas and technically is the closest thomas to the toy the rev awdry made out of wood for Christopher
I wonder if anyone is gonna start making Thomas episdes using a model based on this engine...
I hope so, I hope so
You should either do the Strasburg Thomas or the Japanese Thomas next
how about engines like Southern 1102 or Illinois Central 382
cool
It's been out for 37 seconds lmao
I think this could be the real Thomas. Sure, it's an outside cylinder loco but it could be a good basis.
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“Lye-kester”?! I’ve heard some pretty sus pronounciations of Leicester in my time, but…wow!
Eh, at least I acknowledge it. I’m just not as familiar with British locations myself. It’s much better than it used to be if that helps haha
Also didn’t know *sus* was an actual term people were using now, oof 🤣
New model potential~? ;)
I wonder if the stausburg railway sometimes uses the Thomas engines when they desperately need more engines lol
do the next video with the history of the Mid Hants Railway James the red engine.
100 £ in 1973 are about 960 £ in todays money. Which still isn't a lot, considering it's a full sized engine.
The name of the railway thomas was sold to sounds like the meme valley railway
Nené valley railway is literally 10 mins from my house
The Japanese Thomas is ripped
Like ester and cam bridge 😂😂😂😂
Being from England I am cracking up, they should be pronounced 'lester' and 'camebridge'
Being not from England I have to say, it cracks me up how much people get offended by it, personally I’ve never been upset by people mispronouncing things from places they aren’t from. 🤣
Thank you for that though my man and I’ll keep that in mind next time I run into them!!
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2:54
Just so you know, Leicester is pronounced _Lester._ 😛
Nene vally is actually pronounced nehn lol
Its only an hour from where i live, i may go visit
Leicester is actually pronounced 'Lester' and Cambridge 'came-bridge'.
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