Yes of course people were saved by grace, through faith, by His blood in every dispensation...However, what was the object of faith during OT? What is the object of faith during the tribulation? Was Israel under the law? What works needed to be done under their covenant with God? Were promises to all nations or Israel alone? During the tribulation can you have faith alone and still take the mark? You see, its this dispensation of grace where we are saved by the work of Christ alone 1 Cor15:1-4. Before this dispensation people were not saved by their works, but they had a faith that worked and listened to God's commands. Read Hebrews 11 which is basically the "Hall of Faith". Paul under the dispensation of Grace: Romans 4:5 kjv 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. James under the OT Law/Covenant: James 2:20-22 24, 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
@@yonelrodriguez2031 Hi,sorry for very very late reply to your comment,I have only just seen it.Was Abraham justified before or after circumcision? Was Paul writing in Romans concerning how to be saved? And was James writing in James from the position of believers already in Christ? Did the Abrahamic Covenant contain blessings for Abraham,blessings for the Nation of Israel,and blessings for the Gentiles? Does the Old Testament look forward in history to the sacrifice of Christ through there animal sacrifices;and does the church look backwards in history to our Lords sacrifice in remembering His death at the Lord’s table,till He comes? If anyone takes the mark of the beast will they be tormented day and night forever and ever? By grace alone,through faith alone in Christ alone📖✝️
Apostle Paul taught to rightly divided between old covenant and Christ our new covenant, but religion has confused it all for the people. New covenant said “none will need a teacher “...people must read, study and meditate on scripture in the Spirit because it is spiritually discerned...Israel is a spiritual people not a physical place. Let not many teach because they will be held more accountable.
Paul was no Apostle. There were 12 Apostles: Simon Peter, Andrew, James (the son of Zebedee), John, Philip, Bartholomew, Thomas, Matthew, James (the son of Alphaeus), Thaddaeus, Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot after Judas Iscariot betrayed Yeshua then having fallen headlong and dis-emboweled, lots were cast to and Matthias was named the 12th. Saul/Paul (Sheol) in Hebrew (no vowel change), a Pharisee of Pharisee, tribe of Benjamin - refer to Genesis (prophecy ravenous wolves), was from the family of Herod, witnessed a blinding light fall from heaven on the road to Damascus (Lucifer, described as like the morning star, fell from heaven like lightning), like scales fell from Saul's eyes SCALES!!!!, Saul/Paul describes the thorn in his flesh given to him by a messenger of Satan (metaphor of demonic possession), Revelations: To the Church in Ephesus......and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars Paul was a self proclaimed Apostle.....Paul was not an Apostle and contradicted YHVH and Yeshua and is an apostate.
@@kylestreet3264 Your a curse and a fool Paul says many time he's Apostle point by Christ and rest Apostle agree he saw Christ and appoint to be Apostle for gentile
Miles Coverdale said in 1535 that “It shall greatly help ye to understand the Scriptures if thou mark not only what is spoken or written, but of whom and to whom, with what words, at what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances, considering what goeth before and what followeth after.”
Are you convinced he was a dispensationalist based in this quote? Of course his quote is correct, I agree with that as an amillennialist… doesn’t prove that the church is not the Israel of God and doesn’t prove the supposed “pre-Trib” rapture.
1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. Joh_8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Red letter words of Jesus. There has always only been one way to salvation. Faith in Christ alone. Good message Arann.
@@bigbruno56 That is not correct. Throughout the whole bible everyone have been saved by faith alone. Read Romans chapter 4. Abraham was counted righteous by faith alone, such as David, such as us.
@@bigbruno56 There is no need to bring my dancing into this. I don't really know what that has to do with it. Anyway, if you study the bible carefully you will see that everyone, from Adam until the last man to be born, will be saved by grace through faith. "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law." Romans 3:28 The greek word for "man" in this text is "anthrópos", which means "a man, human, mankind". Paul is clear. The law couldn't justify anyone (Romans 3:20). He then goes into Romans 4 and explain that no matter what dispensation you were/are in, there's always been by grace through faith alone. "But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness," Romans 4:5 That is, in the dispensation during Abraham, in the dispensation of the law (David was under the law), and also for us.
@@bigbruno56 Nice to meet yo Brendan. I currently live in Spain as a missionary. The amount of time that a person have studied the bible has nothing to do with him having the truth or not. A person can study thhe bible all he wants, but if he does is without the Holy Spirit he will never be able to discern the truth. (With this I am not saying that you don't have the Holy Spirit, just that being older than me has nothing to do with having more insight in the word of God.) You seem to think that all the gentiles are under grace. That is certainly not true. In Galatians 5:18, Paul writes to the gentiles: "But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law." We see that only those who are led by the Spirit are the ones who are not under the law, which means that if you are not led by the Spirit you are under the law (even if you are a gentile). Paul writes the same thing (to gentile believers) in Romans 8:14 " For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God." So, only the ones who have the Holy Spirit are sons of God. I am sure you know that but I have to say it to lead up to my next point: Only believers have the Holy Spirit. "In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation-having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise," Ephesians 1:13 The order is: hear the gospel, believe in the gospel, then you recieve the Holy Spirit. So, a gentile that does not believe does not have the Holy Spirit, and is therefore not under grace. He is still under the law. The law (not the jewish law but the consciense) is still judging us, the gentiles, today (Romans 2:14-16). If not, why would we even need Jesus? We, the gentiles, need to believe in what Jesus did on the cross because if we don't we are condemned by the law (the consciense) and are going to hell. But thank God, that Jesus died for our sins, but not only our sins but also the sins of the jews (John 1:29). You seem believe the jews are saved in a different way than the gentiles. Peter didn't believe that: "But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are.” Acts 15:11 The jews are saved through the grace of Jesus, in the same way as the gentiles. Paul also believed this: " But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that 👉being justified by His grace👈 we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life." Titus 3:4-7 Paul was justified by grace, not by works. But Paul was also a jew. Peter was justified by grace. "For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved .” Romans 10:12-13 I will never start dividing the word of God. That is doctrine of men and devils invented by Scofield. It all stand and fall with Timothy 2:15, but only of you read it in the KJV. It is taken out of context, and if you read it in another translation, or in another language (I study the bible in 4 languages), it never says "study to be able to divide the word of truth". NASB translates it better: "Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth. But avoid worldly and empty chatter, for it will lead to further ungodliness," 2 Timothy 2:15-16 These verses, in its context and with a correct translation, is not about dividing the word of God. It is about discerning between the truth and the wordly and empty chatter. The word of God cannot be divided. It is not some kind of map or puzzle where we have to cut and paste to see the whole picture and understand it. If we try to study the bible as we study a history book in school, we will always come up with false doctrines. Then, if we follow men (like Scofield) who obviously didn't have the Holy Spirit (just look at all his unrighteous living), we will be taught by someone who wasn't taught by the Holy Spirit. That is a blind leader leading a blind. Both end up in the pit. What the bible does teach us is that the sum of His word is truth (Psalm 119:160). This teaches us we have to study the bible with the bible, compare everything it teaches to "sum" the truth. Therefore we can't divide it. We have to add everything together, both from the old testament and the new testament, and then we will know the truth. And yes, James teaches that if we are righteous we will have good works. When we have a true faith, we have works, and the works show our faith is true. If there are no works, the faith is dead (i.e. non-existent), and therefore we are not declared righteous. That is true for the jew, and it is true for the gentile. I pray that the Holy Spirit will make you know the truth, because only by the truth you will be set free.
27:51... Heb.4:2 tells us why 'the word preached did not profit them', and Heb.13:9 reflects back on this. Also, we were all 'ungodly' sinners (Rom.5:6,8), and still do not always have God constantly 'in all our thoughts' (Ps.10:4), thus there are times when we fail to 'bring into captivity every thought' (2Cor.10:5), but cave in to the flesh (Rom.8:7,8). If you read John Calvin (in his sermons and commentary, 1Tim.2:1-6 for example) you'll find that He taught both a general atonement and a particular redemption. John Owen missed this. But, I do agree with you in the main, that dispensationalism is false teaching, and very confusing, and perverts men's minds by mixing truth with error (false constructs). May I say that, I've enjoyed your sermons for a long time now. God bless you richly...
I don't know any Dispensationalists who believe that Old Testament saints were saved by works, although I have heard Dispensationalists rebuke such an idea. Although from my limited understanding of Baptist Covenantal theology it seems that they don't believe that salvation was the same in the Old Testament.
I know alot dispensation who believe that old testament are saved by works and know many dispensation and Pencostal who have work base bible believeing.
It was the same but they are waiting for the coming of the Mesash to come his name was i,am and they didn't get the finnial name being Jesus but were looking afar off but still had the same saving spirt faith to be believe the finnial out come that God will acomplish his work.
The Philosophy of the Redemption Venom is neutralized by adminstring the same venom in smaller QUANTITIES The same principle applies to the Redemption that comes through Christ: Isaiah " WITH his stripes we are healed " The stripes that man gave him out of sin become his own BURDEN, he who had no sin became sin for us, BY which he REDEEMS man unto the Biblical words "I Hurt & I Heal" (Job) ,MY BURDEN IS LIGHT & MY YOKE EASY, The words that underscore the Communion (Know why Satanists hate/Desecrate the Eucharist cause Sin cannot withstand pain other than to give it & its Burdens are to death whereas the Burden of Christ (The Antidote) is to Life) The Body & Blood of the STRIPED Christ received through FAITH, The GRACE FAITH ,has its works within, comes through following the TWO COMMANDMENTS of Love, amounts to picking up ones own cross daily to following him as commanded ,thus Equating WITH his sacrifice on the Cross So, the stripes that man gave him he uses to REDEEM is the reason why "It pleased God to Bruise him " (Isaiah) Not for the bruises itself but for its FRUIT, FOR WHICH HE HAD TO RESURRECT, that he did cause the BURDENS of our sins could not hold him down in hell (where Sin & death rules) as he was found stronger than Sin itself, unto his words "I have overcome the world "(its sins) to say there is no sin that he cannot remove This is basically a Conversion act instead of a Substitution (magical) act as generally believed by Protestants, The Error has its origins through Protestantism's( underscored in Gnosticism 1John 2;19) theologically leavening the Faith by Faith Only, that James specifically says is not unto mis interpretation Paul (the reason why Martin Luther rejected James cause it was a hinderance to his erranous view of redemption) & the philosophies that arise out of the leavens becomes to another Christ another Gospel (a la Krisna/Egypt) in Christian names, Give unto God what is to God -- FAITH without which it is not possible to please God, but surely not a Leavened/Corrupted Faith,
The law cannot save. The only thing the law can do is expose one's unrighteousness and need of Christ. Loving God is not the cause of salvation. God's love for us is the cause of our salvation.
But did they have a personal faith in Christ that included a knowledge of propiciation via His death and eternal life through His resurrection? Or was it merely believing God's promise of a redeemer?
would you say that Schofeild had a different gospel, would this mean anyone how holds this view knows not the gospel and is not a Christian?I struggle to understand how people who preach such things such as Arminianism and dispensationalism are Christian especially when the Bible says it is impossible for the elect to be deceived
Repentance and Faith interesting post. To your question about Schofield- Galatians 1:8 Regarding impossible for the elect to be deceived- Matthew 24:24 “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” I can see it today, the elect or rather the self proclaimed elect are extremely deceived.
Most are not truly sound Christian or every been saved they believe in Arminianism free will choosing but hate election and any hates election they show they are not his.
Your wrong but they knew him as I,am and others names but still same saving grace. The same with the driffent covenant changing threw times with the finnial covenant of grace is first in your heart and second being bapist in faith your belife in Christ electing you which is the last covenant of the bible. no were in new testment is there infintant being bapist.
(John 8:48-59) "Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil? {49} Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me. {50} And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth. {51} Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. {52} Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. {53} Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? {54} Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: {55} Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. {56} Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. {57} Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? {58} Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. {59} Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by."
"The basis of salvation in every age is the death of Christ" (Charles Ryrie, Dispensationalism, 1995, 2007, p.134). All Ryrie is saying is that God didn't reveal all the content to everyone in the OT. Did Abraham know Jesus name? No, but he had saving faith. To say that Ryrie and dispensationalism does not base salvation solely on the finished work of Christ is to mis-state them.
Jesus told his disciples that he would die and be resurrected and they had no idea what he was talking about, so how could OT Jews know that Jesus died for their sins in order to believe in him for their salvation? Therefore, how can anyone think salvation was the same in all dispensations? Not to say that Scofield or Ryrie were 100% in their teachings, but I think they've got a better grasp on scripture than a Covenant Theologian any day of the week.
D Blanton 4 times dispensation is written in the Bible. Read the verses front and back of the word and it’s easy to see the same gospel which is the Dispensation of Grace.
@@truthwarrior1489 the same gospel was not being preached throughout the bible. If you believe this please explain how Jesus sent out the twelve to preach "the gospel", but then when he privately tells them that he must be crucified they had no idea what he was talking about.... Luke 9:1-2 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. 2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick. Luke 18:33-34 33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. 34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken. Matthew 9:35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people. Matthew 16:21 21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. 22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. If that was the good news why would Peter try to stop it.....they didn't even understand the resurrection..... John 20:9 9 For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.
@@yonelrodriguez2031 to say that there are different gospels is utter heresy. I highly recommend you read what’s referred to as “the great hall of faith”- Hebrews chapter 11. Maybe, whilst reading that chapter, the Holy Spirit will open your eyes to the Truth.
Brenton's Septuagint Psalms 2 1Wherefore did the heathen rage, and the nations imagine vain things? 2The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers gathered themselves together, against the Lord, and against his Christ; 3saying, Let us break through their bonds, and cast away their yoke from us. 4He that dwells in the heavens shall laugh them to scorn, and the Lord shall mock them. 5Then shall he speak to them in his anger, and trouble them in his fury. 6But I have been made king by him on Sion his holy mountain, 7declaring the ordinance of the Lord: the Lord said to me, Thou art my Son, to-day have I begotten thee. 8Ask of me, and I will give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the ends of the earth for thy possession. 9Thou shalt rule them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces as a potter's vessel. 10Now therefore understand, ye kings: be instructed, all ye that judge the earth. 11Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice in him with trembling. 12Accept correction, lest at any time the Lord be angry, and ye should perish from the righteous way: whensoever his wrath shall be suddenly kindled, blessed are all they that trust in him.
The proposed interpretation of Scofield's statement that "legal obedience" is "no longer" "the condition of salvation" is probably true. It's probably right that Scofield meant by "a “condition to salvation,” [that] the law was given as a test to prove men could not keep the law, and thus, grace through Christ was necessary for all men." But that doesn't really change anything. This is still proposing that there was another way of salvation, only that no one was able to avail themselves of it. That's what I meant all along and probably what other evangelicals mean when they point out that dispensationalism appears to say that there were other ways to salvation during prior dispensations. Whether anyone was ever actually saved through those purported alternatives is besides the point. The point is that Scofield was claiming that there were alternative means of salvation. The issue of whether they were ever effective isn't relevant. That is, I don't see that your interpretation changes the basic claim that Scofield, and thus classical dispensationalism, claimed there had been different means of salvation during different dispensations. When we say that dispensationalism taught that there were different means of salvation, we're not necessarily saying that dispensationalists taught that anyone was actually saved by them. Those are two different issues. But just the existence of an alternative means of salvation, even if just theoretical (i.e. a "test"), is the problem. Again, even if it were just a "test", it's still potentially a means of salvation. I'm sure that Scofield and yourself are not claiming that God was lying; that He was offering a means of salvation that didn't exist; that He was saying "Behind this door you'll find salvation" when in reality there was nothing behind that door; if God was saying that "legal obedience" was a "condition of salvation", then that had to be true. To put it another way, it doesn't change what Scofield is saying to say he's just referring to a "test" that everyone fails; just because everyone fails it, doesn't mean it's not another way to salvation. It also shows that the claims that dispensationalism originally taught multiple means of salvation is not groundless. That claim is, in fact, substantiated now, by your own interpretation of Scofield. Scofield's claim that there had been a dispensation of law and now "legal obedience" is "no longer" "the condition of salvation", even if that's just a "test" (i.e. a theoretical condition of salvation that no one was able to take advantage of) is problematic because Paul teaches in Galatians 3:8 (c.f. Romans 4) that Abraham was justified by believing "the gospel in advance." That is, while supposedly living under a prior dispensation, he was justified through faith in the gospel, not by whatever "test" that was appropriate for that particular dispensation. This gets to the heart of what is wrong with one of the fundamental basis of dispensationalism which I take to be three: (1) that there were dispensations (what we are discussing here), (2) that there are two people of God, a spiritual and a natural one; and (3) that the Bible is to be interpreted what they call "literally" rather than Christocentrically as the NT models for us (with the dispensational approach leading to the conclusion that the Kingdom of God must be "of this world" (i.e. political) and thus the Lord Jesus did not bring it in to the world, contrary to His teachings otherwise.).
@@bigbruno56 Bingo, he believed what God said was true....same applies for all the OT saints. Hebrews 11 is a perfect picture of what OT faith looks like. None of the OT saints were looking forward to the future messiah for salvation...they were looking forward to their promised king and kingdom. It would be like us today having the gospel of grace, but instead of believing what God has revealed to us now, we would be looking forward to the second coming of Christ. God bless you
@@bigbruno56 Let me correct myself because OT saints had knowledge that a promised messiah would come to rule over the kingdom, but they were not looking forward to the cross like many say. A great way to defend this point is by simple context of the text. In the four gospels MMLJ, Jesus and the twelve were going around preaching the kingdom gospel(the kingdom of heaven is at hand). So if they were going around preaching the same gospel we believe today for salvation(death, burial, resurrection for forgiveness of sins). Why were the twelve confused when Jesus said he will be delivered to men to be crucified? Like wasn't that the same gospel they were proclaiming during Jesus' earthly ministry? lol Luke 18:33-34 33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. 34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken. John 20:9 9 For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead. We even see in the beginning of Acts the Eleven ask if Jesus had risen to bring the kingdom to Israel. Acts 1:6 6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And then we see Peter preach the cross as bad news in Acts 2. Brother, I would look into Mid-Acts dispensationlism, it has turned the lightbulb on in my head. The bible no longer has any "contradictions" when I read it. Rightly dividing the word is life changing when it comes to studying the bible 2 Tim2:15 KJV. God bless you
@@bigbruno56 Wow this makes sense! Just like false teachers today are adding works to the gospel of grace by referencing MMLJ and Hebrews---Revelation. The anti-christ and his ministers might be referencing Paul's epistles to make people believe its faith alone in christ alone and sealed with the spirit, so its okay to take the mark as long as they have faith...its crazy how to enemy will be able to use the word against people.
@@bigbruno56 so will gentiles in the tribulation be saved on the basis of enduring and helping Jews like described in Matt 25? Or will gentiles be deceived and fall for the lie God sends since they didn’t believe the gospel of grace 2 Thes2:11 ?
@@bigbruno56 brother you have provided so much help🙏 The prophecy in Joel makes sense now. If they see the Lord they will know and call upon the name. But those who did not endure and fell for the mark are damned. Wow now I want to study hebrews and Revelation! One last question brother, Is the new covenant fulfilled during the 1,000 yr reign of Christ? A little confused on when the Jews will have the holy ghost to walk according to the law like prophesy says in Ezekiel and Jeremiah. Thank you
This is splitting hairs......Salvation is of the Lord whether he chooses to save by looking at the works or the faith. One things is true there is no faith or work that is so perfect that they don't merit the favor of God.
Wrong!! Those supposed "splitting hairs" means life with Christ for eternity or in hell for eternity. No work, regardless of what we think it does and or others think it does is nothing but filthy rags to Christ. 100% of all believers salvation is by the grace and love of Christ.
I have not studied Calvinism to the nth degree. He was right about many things, but he was also wrong about critical issues. The "elect" of God was the generation that God chose to bring in Jesus, the Lamb of God, and also the generation that would go through the consummation of the Old Covenant. The scripture even states that they were an elect generation, yet most in the seminaries and pulpit miss this. They also miss the fact that the Old Covenant was not consummated at the cross. It was not consummated until the destruction of the temple and nation of Israel in AD 70. Paul even states about the Old Covenant that it "waxeth old." This means that they were still under the law. There is much heresy in the church today because of this misunderstanding. Paul knew that he was going to suffer "soul sleep." Check out my book, For Such a Time as This: Let My People Go, You End-Times Doomsday Sayers! It is available on Barnes & Nobles and Amazon Books. You must type in the complete title or it will not pull up. It will not be available in stores until after September 2017.
Ernie Clark- Very very few understand what you have just commented. I can’t say I would agree on soul sleep part, scripture says the spirit returns to God, but what you said about the elect generation, the OC and AD 70 is very true. People all miss that Christ’s ministry was a transition.
The gospel is the gospel of the kingdom! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah died for his people! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Matt 24 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
You obviously don't understand Dispensationalism. Your prejudiced ignorance is on display. God's revelation of His salvation is progressive and it is glaringly obvious that Moses knew nothing about the Cross nor the indwelliing of the Holy Spirit. The eventual revelation of Christ. The question is not whether the law is part of our sanctification. The main issue is whether the Law plays a part in our SALVATION!! WE ARE SAVED BY GRACE ALONE THROUGH FAITH ALONE.
"Dispensationalists teach that there is a different way of salvation in the Old Testament". No, *hyper* dispensationalists do that! They distort the truth of scripture and therefore are *not* teaching true dispensationalism. "Classic" dispensationalism is simply an observation of scripture, not doctrine. It basically teaches God doesn't interact with the nation of Israel in the same was as He does the Church. If you believe the plain reading of scripture without adding to or taking from it, then in the plain sense of the term, you are a "dispensationalist"! Israel, the nation, will be comprised of individuals who are *physically* saved in the tribulation. They will have "natural bodies" to live throughout the 1,000 year Millennium and God will "cause them" to walk in His statutes in order to glorify Himself (Ezekiel 36). The Body of Christ (the Church) will be raptured before the tribulation period begins and will receive "spiritual bodies" at that time (1 Cor. 15:42-52).
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In every dispensation we are saved by God’s Grace,through faith in Christ,and by His blood-Eps 2:8-10,1 Pet 1:18-19📖✝️😃
Yes of course people were saved by grace, through faith, by His blood in every dispensation...However, what was the object of faith during OT? What is the object of faith during the tribulation? Was Israel under the law? What works needed to be done under their covenant with God? Were promises to all nations or Israel alone? During the tribulation can you have faith alone and still take the mark? You see, its this dispensation of grace where we are saved by the work of Christ alone 1 Cor15:1-4. Before this dispensation people were not saved by their works, but they had a faith that worked and listened to God's commands. Read Hebrews 11 which is basically the "Hall of Faith".
Paul under the dispensation of Grace: Romans 4:5 kjv
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
James under the OT Law/Covenant: James 2:20-22 24,
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Justified in the eyes of man not by God.
Read Romans 4
Abraham BELIEVED GOD and it was counted unto him for righteousness
@@yonelrodriguez2031 Hi,sorry for very very late reply to your comment,I have only just seen it.Was Abraham justified before or after circumcision? Was Paul writing in Romans concerning how to be saved? And was James writing in James from the position of believers already in Christ? Did the Abrahamic Covenant contain blessings for Abraham,blessings for the Nation of Israel,and blessings for the Gentiles? Does the Old Testament look forward in history to the sacrifice of Christ through there animal sacrifices;and does the church look backwards in history to our Lords sacrifice in remembering His death at the Lord’s table,till He comes? If anyone takes the mark of the beast will they be tormented day and night forever and ever? By grace alone,through faith alone in Christ alone📖✝️
Apostle Paul taught to rightly divided between old covenant and Christ our new covenant, but religion has confused it all for the people. New covenant said “none will need a teacher “...people must read, study and meditate on scripture in the Spirit because it is spiritually discerned...Israel is a spiritual people not a physical place. Let not many teach because they will be held more accountable.
Paul was no Apostle. There were 12 Apostles: Simon Peter, Andrew, James (the son of Zebedee), John, Philip, Bartholomew, Thomas, Matthew, James (the son of Alphaeus), Thaddaeus, Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot after Judas Iscariot betrayed Yeshua then having fallen headlong and dis-emboweled, lots were cast to and Matthias was named the 12th. Saul/Paul (Sheol) in Hebrew (no vowel change), a Pharisee of Pharisee, tribe of Benjamin - refer to Genesis (prophecy ravenous wolves), was from the family of Herod, witnessed a blinding light fall from heaven on the road to Damascus (Lucifer, described as like the morning star, fell from heaven like lightning), like scales fell from Saul's eyes SCALES!!!!, Saul/Paul describes the thorn in his flesh given to him by a messenger of Satan (metaphor of demonic possession), Revelations: To the Church in Ephesus......and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars Paul was a self proclaimed Apostle.....Paul was not an Apostle and contradicted YHVH and Yeshua and is an apostate.
Kyle Street are you kidding?
@@kylestreet3264 Your a curse and a fool Paul says many time he's Apostle point by Christ and rest Apostle agree he saw Christ and appoint to be Apostle for gentile
@@kylestreet3264 This is exactly what satan wants you to believe....
Many thanks dear brother for such a competant exposure of this erroneous 'doctrine'.
@@alanhaskins7688 Thank you, dear brother, for the encouraging words.
John 8:56
Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”
Miles Coverdale said in 1535 that “It shall greatly help ye to understand the Scriptures if thou mark not only what is spoken or written, but of whom and to whom, with what words, at what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances, considering what goeth before and what followeth after.”
Are you convinced he was a dispensationalist based in this quote? Of course his quote is correct, I agree with that as an amillennialist… doesn’t prove that the church is not the Israel of God and doesn’t prove the supposed “pre-Trib” rapture.
These have been so helpful, along with megiddo radio. Thank you! Bless you brother.
1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
Joh_8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Red letter words of Jesus.
There has always only been one way to salvation. Faith in Christ alone. Good message Arann.
Saving faith is the same today as in the old testment.
You are VERY WRONG my brother. In the old testament, salvation was very much based on works.
@@bigbruno56 And the same will apply AFTER the church age.
@@bigbruno56 That is not correct. Throughout the whole bible everyone have been saved by faith alone.
Read Romans chapter 4. Abraham was counted righteous by faith alone, such as David, such as us.
@@bigbruno56 There is no need to bring my dancing into this. I don't really know what that has to do with it.
Anyway, if you study the bible carefully you will see that everyone, from Adam until the last man to be born, will be saved by grace through faith.
"For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law."
Romans 3:28
The greek word for "man" in this text is "anthrópos", which means "a man, human, mankind".
Paul is clear. The law couldn't justify anyone (Romans 3:20). He then goes into Romans 4 and explain that no matter what dispensation you were/are in, there's always been by grace through faith alone.
"But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,"
Romans 4:5
That is, in the dispensation during Abraham, in the dispensation of the law (David was under the law), and also for us.
@@bigbruno56 Nice to meet yo Brendan.
I currently live in Spain as a missionary.
The amount of time that a person have studied the bible has nothing to do with him having the truth or not. A person can study thhe bible all he wants, but if he does is without the Holy Spirit he will never be able to discern the truth. (With this I am not saying that you don't have the Holy Spirit, just that being older than me has nothing to do with having more insight in the word of God.)
You seem to think that all the gentiles are under grace. That is certainly not true.
In Galatians 5:18, Paul writes to the gentiles:
"But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law."
We see that only those who are led by the Spirit are the ones who are not under the law, which means that if you are not led by the Spirit you are under the law (even if you are a gentile).
Paul writes the same thing (to gentile believers) in Romans 8:14
" For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God."
So, only the ones who have the Holy Spirit are sons of God. I am sure you know that but I have to say it to lead up to my next point: Only believers have the Holy Spirit.
"In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation-having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,"
Ephesians 1:13
The order is: hear the gospel, believe in the gospel, then you recieve the Holy Spirit. So, a gentile that does not believe does not have the Holy Spirit, and is therefore not under grace. He is still under the law.
The law (not the jewish law but the consciense) is still judging us, the gentiles, today (Romans 2:14-16). If not, why would we even need Jesus? We, the gentiles, need to believe in what Jesus did on the cross because if we don't we are condemned by the law (the consciense) and are going to hell. But thank God, that Jesus died for our sins, but not only our sins but also the sins of the jews (John 1:29).
You seem believe the jews are saved in a different way than the gentiles. Peter didn't believe that:
"But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are.”
Acts 15:11
The jews are saved through the grace of Jesus, in the same way as the gentiles.
Paul also believed this:
" But when the kindness of God our Savior and His love for mankind appeared, He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that 👉being justified by His grace👈 we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life."
Titus 3:4-7
Paul was justified by grace, not by works. But Paul was also a jew. Peter was justified by grace.
"For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved .”
Romans 10:12-13
I will never start dividing the word of God. That is doctrine of men and devils invented by Scofield. It all stand and fall with Timothy 2:15, but only of you read it in the KJV. It is taken out of context, and if you read it in another translation, or in another language (I study the bible in 4 languages), it never says "study to be able to divide the word of truth". NASB translates it better:
"Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth. But avoid worldly and empty chatter, for it will lead to further ungodliness,"
2 Timothy 2:15-16
These verses, in its context and with a correct translation, is not about dividing the word of God. It is about discerning between the truth and the wordly and empty chatter.
The word of God cannot be divided. It is not some kind of map or puzzle where we have to cut and paste to see the whole picture and understand it.
If we try to study the bible as we study a history book in school, we will always come up with false doctrines. Then, if we follow men (like Scofield) who obviously didn't have the Holy Spirit (just look at all his unrighteous living), we will be taught by someone who wasn't taught by the Holy Spirit. That is a blind leader leading a blind. Both end up in the pit.
What the bible does teach us is that the sum of His word is truth (Psalm 119:160). This teaches us we have to study the bible with the bible, compare everything it teaches to "sum" the truth. Therefore we can't divide it. We have to add everything together, both from the old testament and the new testament, and then we will know the truth.
And yes, James teaches that if we are righteous we will have good works. When we have a true faith, we have works, and the works show our faith is true. If there are no works, the faith is dead (i.e. non-existent), and therefore we are not declared righteous. That is true for the jew, and it is true for the gentile.
I pray that the Holy Spirit will make you know the truth, because only by the truth you will be set free.
27:51... Heb.4:2 tells us why 'the word preached did not profit them', and Heb.13:9 reflects back on this. Also, we were all 'ungodly' sinners (Rom.5:6,8), and still do not always have God constantly 'in all our thoughts' (Ps.10:4), thus there are times when we fail to 'bring into captivity every thought' (2Cor.10:5), but cave in to the flesh (Rom.8:7,8).
If you read John Calvin (in his sermons and commentary, 1Tim.2:1-6 for example) you'll find that He taught both a general atonement and a particular redemption. John Owen missed this.
But, I do agree with you in the main, that dispensationalism is false teaching, and very confusing, and perverts men's minds by mixing truth with error (false constructs).
May I say that, I've enjoyed your sermons for a long time now. God bless you richly...
Excellent, excellent video!
I don't know any Dispensationalists who believe that Old Testament saints were saved by works, although I have heard Dispensationalists rebuke such an idea. Although from my limited understanding of Baptist Covenantal theology it seems that they don't believe that salvation was the same in the Old Testament.
I know alot dispensation who believe that old testament are saved by works and know many dispensation and Pencostal who have work base bible believeing.
It was the same but they are waiting for the coming of the Mesash to come his name was i,am and they didn't get the finnial name being Jesus but were looking afar off but still had the same saving spirt faith to be believe the finnial out come that God will acomplish his work.
The Philosophy of the Redemption
Venom is neutralized by adminstring the same venom in smaller QUANTITIES
The same principle applies to the Redemption that comes through Christ:
Isaiah " WITH his stripes we are healed " The stripes that man gave him out of sin become his own BURDEN, he who had no sin became sin for us, BY which he REDEEMS man unto the Biblical words "I Hurt & I Heal" (Job) ,MY BURDEN IS LIGHT & MY YOKE EASY, The words that underscore the Communion (Know why Satanists hate/Desecrate the Eucharist cause Sin cannot withstand pain other than to give it & its Burdens are to death whereas the Burden of Christ (The Antidote) is to Life) The Body & Blood of the STRIPED Christ received through FAITH, The GRACE
FAITH ,has its works within, comes through following the TWO COMMANDMENTS of Love, amounts to picking up ones own cross daily to following him as commanded ,thus Equating WITH his sacrifice on the Cross
So, the stripes that man gave him he uses to REDEEM is the reason why "It pleased God to Bruise him " (Isaiah) Not for the bruises itself but for its FRUIT, FOR WHICH HE HAD TO RESURRECT, that he did cause the BURDENS of our sins could not hold him down in hell (where Sin & death rules) as he was found stronger than Sin itself, unto his words "I have overcome the world "(its sins) to say there is no sin that he cannot remove
This is basically a Conversion act instead of a Substitution (magical) act as generally believed by Protestants, The Error has its origins through Protestantism's( underscored in Gnosticism 1John 2;19) theologically leavening the Faith by Faith Only, that James specifically says is not unto mis interpretation Paul (the reason why Martin Luther rejected James cause it was a hinderance to his erranous view of redemption) & the philosophies that arise out of the leavens becomes to another Christ another Gospel (a la Krisna/Egypt) in Christian names,
Give unto God what is to God -- FAITH without which it is not possible to please God, but surely not a Leavened/Corrupted Faith,
The law cannot save. The only thing the law can do is expose one's unrighteousness and need of Christ. Loving God is not the cause of salvation. God's love for us is the cause of our salvation.
But did they have a personal faith in Christ that included a knowledge of propiciation via His death and eternal life through His resurrection?
Or was it merely believing God's promise of a redeemer?
would you say that Schofeild had a different gospel, would this mean anyone how holds this view knows not the gospel and is not a Christian?I struggle to understand how people who preach such things such as Arminianism and dispensationalism are Christian especially when the Bible says it is impossible for the elect to be deceived
Repentance and Faith interesting post. To your question about Schofield- Galatians 1:8
Regarding impossible for the elect to be deceived- Matthew 24:24 “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”
I can see it today, the elect or rather the self proclaimed elect are extremely deceived.
Most are not truly sound Christian or every been saved they believe in Arminianism free will choosing but hate election and any hates election they show they are not his.
It is quite simple. The Old Testament saints didn't know of the Lord Jesus Christ. They did but see Him from afar through shadows.
Your wrong but they knew him as I,am and others names but still same saving grace. The same with the driffent covenant changing threw times with the finnial covenant of grace is first in your heart and second being bapist in faith your belife in Christ electing you which is the last covenant of the bible. no were in new testment is there infintant being bapist.
(John 8:48-59) "Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil? {49} Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me. {50} And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth. {51} Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. {52} Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. {53} Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? {54} Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: {55} Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. {56} Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. {57} Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? {58} Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. {59} Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by."
It is my understanding that no one was "saved" (received a permanent place in heaven) until after Christ's resurrection.
Yes Pam. Worshippers waited in Abraham’s bosom in an area of hell, but Jesus went down and got them and then rose again :)
@@savtay6922 Thank you for clarifying that, my brother.
@@savtay6922 I have a question. Were are you seeing that people in Abraham's bosom were brought to heaven after Christ resurrection
@@kevinboutwell2243 Luke 16:22, Luke 16:23
@@yonelrodriguez2031 I’m glad you found it. Once you die its too late.
"The basis of salvation in every age is the death of Christ" (Charles Ryrie, Dispensationalism, 1995, 2007, p.134). All Ryrie is saying is that God didn't reveal all the content to everyone in the OT. Did Abraham know Jesus name? No, but he had saving faith. To say that Ryrie and dispensationalism does not base salvation solely on the finished work of Christ is to mis-state them.
Jesus told his disciples that he would die and be resurrected and they had no idea what he was talking about, so how could OT Jews know that Jesus died for their sins in order to believe in him for their salvation? Therefore, how can anyone think salvation was the same in all dispensations? Not to say that Scofield or Ryrie were 100% in their teachings, but I think they've got a better grasp on scripture than a Covenant Theologian any day of the week.
D Blanton 4 times dispensation is written in the Bible. Read the verses front and back of the word and it’s easy to see the same gospel which is the Dispensation of Grace.
bigbruno56 🤦♂️ ok then
If you have a Vines book, look up dispensation.
@@truthwarrior1489 the same gospel was not being preached throughout the bible. If you believe this please explain how Jesus sent out the twelve to preach "the gospel", but then when he privately tells them that he must be crucified they had no idea what he was talking about....
Luke 9:1-2
Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.
2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.
Luke 18:33-34
33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.
34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
Matthew 9:35
And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.
Matthew 16:21
21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
If that was the good news why would Peter try to stop it.....they didn't even understand the resurrection.....
John 20:9
9 For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.
@@yonelrodriguez2031 to say that there are different gospels is utter heresy.
I highly recommend you read what’s referred to as “the great hall of faith”- Hebrews chapter 11. Maybe, whilst reading that chapter, the Holy Spirit will open your eyes to the Truth.
Brenton's Septuagint Psalms 2 1Wherefore did the heathen rage, and the nations imagine vain things?
2The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers gathered themselves together, against the Lord, and against his Christ;
3saying, Let us break through their bonds, and cast away their yoke from us.
4He that dwells in the heavens shall laugh them to scorn, and the Lord shall mock them.
5Then shall he speak to them in his anger, and trouble them in his fury.
6But I have been made king by him on Sion his holy mountain,
7declaring the ordinance of the Lord: the Lord said to me, Thou art my Son, to-day have I begotten thee.
8Ask of me, and I will give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the ends of the earth for thy possession.
9Thou shalt rule them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces as a potter's vessel.
10Now therefore understand, ye kings: be instructed, all ye that judge the earth.
11Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice in him with trembling.
12Accept correction, lest at any time the Lord be angry, and ye should perish from the righteous way: whensoever his wrath shall be suddenly kindled, blessed are all they that trust in him.
Wrong basis of approach. Wrong conclusion.
Yeah... this guy is really trying to not understand.
The proposed interpretation of Scofield's statement that "legal obedience" is "no longer" "the condition of salvation" is probably true. It's probably right that Scofield meant by "a “condition to salvation,” [that] the law was given as a test to prove men could not keep the law, and thus, grace through Christ was necessary for all men." But that doesn't really change anything. This is still proposing that there was another way of salvation, only that no one was able to avail themselves of it. That's what I meant all along and probably what other evangelicals mean when they point out that dispensationalism appears to say that there were other ways to salvation during prior dispensations. Whether anyone was ever actually saved through those purported alternatives is besides the point. The point is that Scofield was claiming that there were alternative means of salvation. The issue of whether they were ever effective isn't relevant. That is, I don't see that your interpretation changes the basic claim that Scofield, and thus classical dispensationalism, claimed there had been different means of salvation during different dispensations.
When we say that dispensationalism taught that there were different means of salvation, we're not necessarily saying that dispensationalists taught that anyone was actually saved by them. Those are two different issues. But just the existence of an alternative means of salvation, even if just theoretical (i.e. a "test"), is the problem. Again, even if it were just a "test", it's still potentially a means of salvation. I'm sure that Scofield and yourself are not claiming that God was lying; that He was offering a means of salvation that didn't exist; that He was saying "Behind this door you'll find salvation" when in reality there was nothing behind that door; if God was saying that "legal obedience" was a "condition of salvation", then that had to be true. To put it another way, it doesn't change what Scofield is saying to say he's just referring to a "test" that everyone fails; just because everyone fails it, doesn't mean it's not another way to salvation. It also shows that the claims that dispensationalism originally taught multiple means of salvation is not groundless. That claim is, in fact, substantiated now, by your own interpretation of Scofield.
Scofield's claim that there had been a dispensation of law and now "legal obedience" is "no longer" "the condition of salvation", even if that's just a "test" (i.e. a theoretical condition of salvation that no one was able to take advantage of) is problematic because Paul teaches in Galatians 3:8 (c.f. Romans 4) that Abraham was justified by believing "the gospel in advance." That is, while supposedly living under a prior dispensation, he was justified through faith in the gospel, not by whatever "test" that was appropriate for that particular dispensation.
This gets to the heart of what is wrong with one of the fundamental basis of dispensationalism which I take to be three: (1) that there were dispensations (what we are discussing here), (2) that there are two people of God, a spiritual and a natural one; and (3) that the Bible is to be interpreted what they call "literally" rather than Christocentrically as the NT models for us (with the dispensational approach leading to the conclusion that the Kingdom of God must be "of this world" (i.e. political) and thus the Lord Jesus did not bring it in to the world, contrary to His teachings otherwise.).
@@bigbruno56 Bingo, he believed what God said was true....same applies for all the OT saints. Hebrews 11 is a perfect picture of what OT faith looks like. None of the OT saints were looking forward to the future messiah for salvation...they were looking forward to their promised king and kingdom. It would be like us today having the gospel of grace, but instead of believing what God has revealed to us now, we would be looking forward to the second coming of Christ. God bless you
@@bigbruno56 Let me correct myself because OT saints had knowledge that a promised messiah would come to rule over the kingdom, but they were not looking forward to the cross like many say. A great way to defend this point is by simple context of the text. In the four gospels MMLJ, Jesus and the twelve were going around preaching the kingdom gospel(the kingdom of heaven is at hand). So if they were going around preaching the same gospel we believe today for salvation(death, burial, resurrection for forgiveness of sins). Why were the twelve confused when Jesus said he will be delivered to men to be crucified? Like wasn't that the same gospel they were proclaiming during Jesus' earthly ministry? lol
Luke 18:33-34
33 And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.
34 And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.
John 20:9
9 For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.
We even see in the beginning of Acts the Eleven ask if Jesus had risen to bring the kingdom to Israel.
Acts 1:6
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
And then we see Peter preach the cross as bad news in Acts 2.
Brother, I would look into Mid-Acts dispensationlism, it has turned the lightbulb on in my head. The bible no longer has any "contradictions" when I read it. Rightly dividing the word is life changing when it comes to studying the bible 2 Tim2:15 KJV. God bless you
@@bigbruno56 Wow this makes sense! Just like false teachers today are adding works to the gospel of grace by referencing MMLJ and Hebrews---Revelation. The anti-christ and his ministers might be referencing Paul's epistles to make people believe its faith alone in christ alone and sealed with the spirit, so its okay to take the mark as long as they have faith...its crazy how to enemy will be able to use the word against people.
@@bigbruno56 so will gentiles in the tribulation be saved on the basis of enduring and helping Jews like described in Matt 25? Or will gentiles be deceived and fall for the lie God sends since they didn’t believe the gospel of grace 2 Thes2:11 ?
@@bigbruno56 brother you have provided so much help🙏 The prophecy in Joel makes sense now. If they see the Lord they will know and call upon the name. But those who did not endure and fell for the mark are damned. Wow now I want to study hebrews and Revelation! One last question brother, Is the new covenant fulfilled during the 1,000 yr reign of Christ? A little confused on when the Jews will have the holy ghost to walk according to the law like prophesy says in Ezekiel and Jeremiah. Thank you
Paul said in Romans 7 that the law convicts and Yeshua sets us free, the law dose not sanctify us Yeshua does, context matters, don't cherry pick.
This is splitting hairs......Salvation is of the Lord whether he chooses to save by looking at the works or the faith. One things is true there is no faith or work that is so perfect that they don't merit the favor of God.
Your works are but filthy rags to God, how do you expect that to save you?
Lol yeah it’s just splitting hairs grace versus works…not!
Wrong!! Those supposed "splitting hairs" means life with Christ for eternity or in hell for eternity. No work, regardless of what we think it does and or others think it does is nothing but filthy rags to Christ. 100% of all believers salvation is by the grace and love of Christ.
Amen!
I reject Calvinism and I reject dispensational salvation, both are heresy.
The 1689 is clearly a Calvinist confession. It's derived from the Westminster Confession of Faith.
I have not studied Calvinism to the nth degree. He was right about many things, but he was also wrong about critical issues. The "elect" of God was the generation that God chose to bring in Jesus, the Lamb of God, and also the generation that would go through the consummation of the Old Covenant. The scripture even states that they were an elect generation, yet most in the seminaries and pulpit miss this. They also miss the fact that the Old Covenant was not consummated at the cross. It was not consummated until the destruction of the temple and nation of Israel in AD 70. Paul even states about the Old Covenant that it "waxeth old." This means that they were still under the law. There is much heresy in the church today because of this misunderstanding. Paul knew that he was going to suffer "soul sleep." Check out my book, For Such a Time as This: Let My People Go, You End-Times Doomsday Sayers! It is available on Barnes & Nobles and Amazon Books. You must type in the complete title or it will not pull up. It will not be available in stores until after September 2017.
Ernie Clark- Very very few understand what you have just commented. I can’t say I would agree on soul sleep part, scripture says the spirit returns to God, but what you said about the elect generation, the OC and AD 70 is very true. People all miss that Christ’s ministry was a transition.
Ernie Clark what about me? I’m God’s elect.
You reject Calvinism election then your not saved.
The gospel is the gospel of the kingdom!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah died for his people! God resurrected the Messiah! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Matt 24
14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
You obviously don't understand Dispensationalism. Your prejudiced ignorance is on display. God's revelation of His salvation is progressive and it is glaringly obvious that Moses knew nothing about the Cross nor the indwelliing of the Holy Spirit. The eventual revelation of Christ. The question is not whether the law is part of our sanctification. The main issue is whether the Law plays a part in our SALVATION!! WE ARE SAVED BY GRACE ALONE THROUGH FAITH ALONE.
"Dispensationalists teach that there is a different way of salvation in the Old Testament".
No, *hyper* dispensationalists do that! They distort the truth of scripture and therefore are *not* teaching true dispensationalism. "Classic" dispensationalism is simply an observation of scripture, not doctrine. It basically teaches God doesn't interact with the nation of Israel in the same was as He does the Church. If you believe the plain reading of scripture without adding to or taking from it, then in the plain sense of the term, you are a "dispensationalist"!
Israel, the nation, will be comprised of individuals who are *physically* saved in the tribulation. They will have "natural bodies" to live throughout the 1,000 year Millennium and God will "cause them" to walk in His statutes in order to glorify Himself (Ezekiel 36). The Body of Christ (the Church) will be raptured before the tribulation period begins and will receive "spiritual bodies" at that time (1 Cor. 15:42-52).
Ridiculous
Once again, this is a bunch of nonsense