People who say Khabib fought cans yet probably comes from the toughest regionals going, when you see so many dagestan fighters are doing so well, And he was the top of that pile
"Khabib fought cans" That is a non statement. You catch anybody saying that you tell them this: Literally everyone fought cans at the beginning of their career. Very few people pull a Alex Pereira and immediately start fighting bangers as soon as they start MMA. Khabib still never loss. Even more than that. He has more 10-8 rounds than anybody else in combat sports history, never had damage on his face, never drew blood, and has never even been dropped.
This fight Charles and Islam is going to tell us a lot about how things are going to go for the next 5 or 10 years. Will this invasion of Dagestan and Chechnya and other Sambo to MMA places continue to take a stake. As a fan what I want to see always is the best get a chance to compete. If this promotion ended up with 2/3 of its champions from that background, I'd have no problem with it. I want it pure. I want to know who is best and what methods are best because in time it will level out. Everyone will wake up and start finding out what they're doing how they're doing it and copy it. That's how it's supposed to be and how it needs to be.
Here’s the thing- especially for fans old enough to be here from the beginning- there is no way any of us will ever respect a so called “PROFESSIONAL” record that includes 5+ fights that were scheduled for only 2 rounds. No way a 2 round decision in a league with no elbows and no ring or cage, just on a small mat, is seen as a legit “PRO” win. Regardless of where or why or who.
People usually consider Khabib's record to judge him if he is goat or not. However, you got to consider not just the record but the way he won the fights; his dominance. Never a cut on his face nor dropped any blood which is quite astonishing considering how brutal the game is. There's none like him.
He fought only strikers and he's a goat? Have faced Olympic wrestlers yet? Can he beat heavy weights and tapped them out? If not then he's not apex baddest man on the planet
@@jalen911as So EVERY boxer/fighter in the world started of fighting World Champions in their first few matches? Didn't realize you were such an expert on fighting. What's the name of your training facility? I'd love to check it out
@@ethernetify still fun tho, why not just let the guy ramble about a random topic someone brought up... even tho it can be nonsense, the videos are still topics about random thoughts answered
Chael loves this sport. Any sport needs people like that who love its history and are part of it. We're lucky to have him. I was just reminiscing about the days of WEC. Man, that was a great time. Chael was there. With any luck we can hold onto the soul of this sport for a good long time
Notice how all these haters call the undefeated champion a quitter. It speaks to there mentality their losers in real life but want to project it on to a winner
Chael just letting everyone know, in no uncertain terms, that he would've remained undefeated and undisputed in both 2009 and 2019 against all his previous opponents. 💪
People forget his father passed away, and his mother didn’t want him to continue. You also forget that khabibs father had a legacy that khabib selflessly put aside his own dreams to complete his fathers dream. This is why he’s pushing the other fighters
Yeah, I guess it's despite the reasons tho u know, just kind of have to go by the numbers and not the back story, but I'm sure we probably agree he was destined to go down in history tho and everything about that situation is just such a shame
There are a lot of good reasons for Khabib to not fight again. To overcome fighting without his father and to get back in condition to where he was when he has so many responsibilities now you risk tarnishing that record and legacy but it's going to be excruciating wanting to see him fight Charles if Charles beats Islam.
Even if Khabib returned and absolutely smash Oliveira, people would still be doubting & hating on him... Khabib the fighter is behind us...it's the time for Khabib the coach...
Watching Oliveira against Dustin and Justin just give me a clear confidence that Khabib will dominate Oliveira. Oliveira has better chance against Islam.
I don't see Khabib as the GOAT but I do respect him more than any other fighter from recent times. The fact that he is honoring his mothers wishes shows what kind of man he is, regardless of what naysayers and haters say about his legacy, being the man that he is admirable. Also he has an entire fight promotion now, let him further his legacy how he wants not how you meatriders and haters want him to. It is obvious fighting without his father wasn't going to be the same for him. Let the man live jeez.
Can never be the goat struggling to make 155 lol have you seen him now 😬 he’s 200lbs what a fucking fraud lol scared to fight in his natural weight class Daniel Cormier is a better fighter 2 weight champion didn’t duck anybody wasn’t scared to move up or down
Who would you say is the goat then? I too somewhat agree that he is not but I would call him the goat based on what he has done but I would not doubt it if he fought a really strong wrestler. He just dominated everyone in a way no one else has done. I think whoever wins between Islam and Charles has a great chance to surpass Khabib in a few fights after the title fight. They have a chance to fight more of the top guys than Khabib did.
Nobody with double digit losses can surpass Khabib. I agree that it's respectable to retire on your own agenda. People shit on Ricky Williams for quitting football and called him a lazy pothead. He spent the next 4 years studying Chinese Medicine. He did the equivalent of getting a Chiropractor and Acupuncture license as well as extensive training in nutrition and herbalism. He wasn't lazy. He just had other interests than football. The people talking shit didn't lead their college to a national championship or average over 100 yards rushing a game for multiple seasons. I respect humans that are more multi faceted. The guy who said Olivera could surpass Khabib, how? Let's say Olivera wins his next 3, and then losses. He will still have a ton of losses. Khabib ran through everyone the UFC gave him and contrary to what Connor says if you look at the combined records of his opponents pre UFC, those opponents had a winning record. In fact they won nearly 70% of their fights before fighting Khabib. Not bums who were 2-5 like Connor said. Nor was he fighting " in his father's shows". M-1 was not owned by Khabibs dad lol. He beat the best guys in 3 smaller promotions then came to UFC and made beating Porrier, Gaethje, and Connor look so easy. Olivera got a concussion fighting Porrier and rocked 3 times by Gaethje. Khabib barely got touched. Olivera was ground and pounded by Paul Felder and he already had over 10 UFC fights then. He has improved but Islam will probably destroy him.
@@mateosmind751 I think the GOAT is whoever you think it is, you have your reasons the other guy has his…however I don’t believe that just because someone has losses means they can’t be a GOAT, that’s ludicrous. Many people who are not combatants or ever really had to fight don’t understand that in the fight game “you win some, you lose some” and that’s just life. Khabib is the only one that I can think of with almost thirty fights and a perfect record. In my eyes to be called the GOAT you have to beat the very best and I just don’t feel that’s what Khabib did, if he stayed in the fight game and continued only winning then most certainly…. Also I don’t see Islam winning the fight with Charles at all unless he edges out a decision. But Charles has the most submissions, finishes and fight of the night bonuses in UFC history so I believe he will submit him or knock him out. Either way I am very excited for the fight, the Edwards vs Usman fight shocked me so maybe there’s chance Islam will shock me too. I only see Islam winning one way, but Charles has a multitude of ways to win. In my opinion versatility trumps specialty in most cases. Idk, we shall come fight night.
Agreed Jon Jones is the GOAT forever! NOBODY else beat every fighter they faced at their own game. Jones litterally thru caution to the wind and beat EVERYBODY at their strengths. Definition of GOAT
I was so happy for khabib when he retired. Such a big moment to retire as the undefeated champion by request from his mother after the passing of his father. Epic.
he retire because he cant hide in lightweight division by making 155 weight limit.Crybib is overrated muslim fighter who fights once a year against smaller striker.This guy wants 40 years old Gsp in 155 pound and talk about beating Jon jones and izzy.without that conor fight his legacy isnot even better than tyroon woodley.first 21 oppenents are nobodies and rest of opponent are averge or good fighter.Crybib is afraid to fight welterweight guys or guys of his size
@@grgyosh oh snap Khabib was the only fighter dropping weight? I didn't know that I thought everyone dropped weight. Huh I guess you learn something new everyday
I'll be honest I think if khabib was a white guy from America who shared the same values as the westerners he would have easily been given the goat status but cuz he is a practicing Muslim from the mountains of russia people use any excuse they can to try and diminish an absolutely incredible achievement that no other fighter might achieve! Every opponent he faced since beating RDA (who became a champ after loosing to khabib) people said khabib won't be able to do the same thing to. Michael Johnson who beat poirier and Ferguson. Edson barboza, McGregor, poirier, gaethje. Remember that until Oliveira beat Ferguson no one saw him as a threat to the top 5. khabib had literally demolished that division so the hate coming at him is just not gunna stick!! Another thing to remember is that if khabib was given the opportunity to fight for the belt (as he had deserved) before they gave McGregor that opportunity, khabib could have already defended the belt 6/7 times atleast but that's a different story.
Just , no and take that prejudiced 💩 out of here. MMA was founded by , to put it crudely, “foreigners” and that’s always been fine. But I will say, If all of his fights had been scheduled for 3 rounds, had been fought in a ring or cage, and with fewer restrictions ( legal to use elbows, etc) we would accept his “pro” record and give him more credit. There will always be trolls and haters but real mma fans know Khabib was great. But we won’t accept his “amateur” fights as proof or justification for being called the greatest of all time. One can’t compare what he could have done against what others have actually done.
Khabib not only produced one of the most dominant runs ever, he managed to do it and walk away while leaving fans with a "what if" debate that will last for a decade, thats why he's the greatest story in MMA
@Soul ByThePound All solid points. Valid this stuff needs to be said. Deserves to be said. They are different their careers are different, and it is an interesting discussion comparing them. Getting to 29 and 0 took a lot of things and Khabib had them all. These include how his career was managed. There's a lot to talk about and as this fight draws near I'm sure will be talked about. We should enjoy this. This is a special time. The first one we've had in a while.
@@darrellowings2343 i think its hard to have this discussion without also acknowledging that Charles comes from a nation with a long proud history in the sport, Khabib is the only reason the world even knows that a place called Dagestan exists. What he had to ov ercome in its own way is as major as Charles fight against his health issues and his own background struggle. 2 genuine greats, feel lucky to have witnessed both in their prime.
Khabib would have minimum 7 or 8 title defenses if they gave his title shot in 2016 instead giving it to Conor, so title defense thing is biased argument. Khabib dominated 8 top 10 ranked LWs, and won vs. 4 future champs before joining UFC.
@Soul ByThePound Nice fantasy indeed, tony and khabib lined up what 5 times? It was never meant to be buddy, tony would likely win if if if, we will never know and i wish one of those times, or 5, they had managed to fight. Its pie in the sky guys. So if you add 5 to the 13 that makes 2 x 9 doesnt it? Lucky i finished ekementary math, not spelking tjough😁
@Soul ByThePound ur made up story is closer to the original than u realize silly goose... Lol the guy is talking history u may b unaware of, but Khabib was already being given the title shot long bfor he actually got it, Conor jumped in front of him when he was initially supposed to fight for the title so that Conor could challenge for the second belt, so basically every fight after RDA should have been a title defense had Conor not gone for champ champ status, I'm a little murky on the time frames myself but the OP does check out, true story...
Khabib never showed his ceiling, nor did he stay long enough to get enough title defenses to be seriously considered for the GOAT. I believe what khabib said about his dad being there and so he’ll never do it again. And that’s sad for us evaluating but for him, that’s fine. Good for him
he retire because he cant hide in lightweight division by making 155 weight limit.Crybib is overrated muslim fighter who fights once a year against smaller striker.This guy wants 40 years old Gsp in 155 pound and talk about beating Jon jones and izzy.without that conor fight his legacy isnot even better than tyroon woodley.first 21 oppenents are nobodies and rest of opponent are averge or good fighter.Crybib is afraid to fight welterweight guys or guys of his size
@@grgyosh 29-0 the only undefeated champion in the entire history of MMA and you and other haters ca do absolutely nothing about it hahahahahahah FFFFF UUUUUU
I completely agree. The only way that I see anyone defeating him would have been by a lucky shot that knocked him out - we all have to admit that his striking defense wasn't all that great, but he controlled distance to make up for that. I don't see anyone submitting him, that's for sure.
Yep, there was nothing displayed that showed any sign of slowing or diminished skills. He didn’t spar a lot as not to take head damage. For his fight style, I think he could have dominated another 5-7 years. He was just too good. I mean who goes through a fighting career in the UFC without having BLED??
Abdulmanop Nurmagomedov took young boys and invested a lifetime of training and knowledge and the way of life and turn them into world class athletes. Khabib deserves the world championship and to be known as the greatest of all time and Abdulmanap realize that Islam would also be a World Champ as well as many others under his tutelage. Until the Mixed Martial Arts community can come up with a solution to Sambo very few if any will ever reach Championship status as long as a combat sambo practioner is in contention.
I very much agree with this, for now they have the advantage in experience as they have seen many BJJ black belts, in comparison to the fewer BJJ black belts who have had experience with guys from that region of the world with the less popular style
Okay Khabib is the most dominant but let’s set the record straight for the haters: Khabib didn’t retire because he was scared of competition. Dude has been competing for his whole life. He retired for his MOM and DAD
Weirdos really think he ran from the division when his father died right before he retired. It's obvious what happened and I respect his decision to walk away at the top.
His dad's plan was to go 30-0. He didnt retire for his dead dad who cant forgive him and instead used his mom as an excuse even tho she can forgive him. Let me ask you this. Khabib never took damage in his fights. Why wud his mom worry about him fighting then? Its cause she knows how close to death this dude came to make a weight he never belonged at.
@@fgc1850 Dos Anjos, Laquinta, Barboza, Mcgregor, Poirer, Gaethje.All in their Prime? These names are scary. And he DOMINATED AND MAULED WITHOUT LOSING A ROUND. Quit Talking.
Isn’t it simple? His father wanted 30-0. His mother told him not to continue fighting after his father passing. Away so he respected that and retired. Why is it so difficult for westerners to understand that means something?
@@hammbaby lol You miss the core point.. It's fine he retired but he then tried to claim he was on the lvl of GSP JONES That's the issue. You can't just say sorry guys I'm going to do 1/2 of what you did or less and retire with just 3 top 3 opponents in 1 weight class and I want to get the same lvl of respect.. That's what's cheese.
People are so sensitive when it comes to khabib they either act like he's their boyfriend and defend him or that he only fought cans and "only has 3 good wins." Realistically khabib is the lw goat with some really good wins but he left a few things unanswered like fighting at ww or the next generation of lws
I hear this about Khabib a lot and hey it's just an opinion but the first thing I would wonder is do we have an example of anyone that got to 29/0 but kept fighting and eventually lost? Anybody win their first 29? Khabib's career is a road map to how to have an exemplary, flawless career. Young fighters should study it if they think they have the God given ability to reach that. Chael's career is a road map to how to make a living in this sport to be relevant to compete at a high level and continue to be relevant after you're done competing. Every young fighter should study that. My favorite Little Evil was WEC getting it started fighting Cub fighting Faber getting that party started over there. That was a big contribution to MMA. It was a big deal to WEC and WEC was very much about smaller divisions the UFC didn't have or weren't pushing. It proved they were viable and man the talent that came out of the WEC that is still freaking fighting today! I love that era and the Tap out boys Mask, Scrape and Punk Ass. RIP Mask. Great era and did wonders for MMA.
@@darrontuagalu8865 Well the most relevant really to me would be in the UFC but it's still a worthy point. Heck all of Khabib's weren't in the UFC. Part of me can't help wanting to see him fight Charles if Charles beats Islam but I'm torn. I kind of don't want to see him fight again.
@@darrellowings2343 Yeah no one starts off in UFC you have to do well in these small feeder orgs that haters try to take the piss out of to discredit fighters they hate or rival orgs the way ben askren did, probably not great example
Here is the thing about Khabib 29-0..he never get dropped, never bleed, not even a scratch on his face. He made the fight with no 1 contenders in Dustin and Justin looked too one sided. This is not something I've ever seen.
@@Respect-sf4tm All true. Undeniable. What I wonder is how many fighters of his style would even be allowed. He has shown the perfect style to win a cage match.
I respect the ones who are searching for their limits and don't care about the risks. That's why Khabib feels incomplete. The whole Khabib experience feels incomplete, because we never got to see his limit. We never got to see the one to defeat him. Khabib gave us blue balls.
@@biw3 no he was levels above strikers on the ground , never fought anyone decent on the ground. He’ll at least Islam fought arman khabib fights kickboxers exclusively unless his father sets him up against sambo bums in Russia
"İf he hung around long enough he would have lost" to who rn? Give me names. Don't just tell me he's gonna definitely lose and expect me to accept that when there is still no one in the division who would even come close to beating him, till this day. Khabib is right , Floyd Mayweather is the Khabib of Boxing.
It's so funny when Chael makes a point or asks a questions and takes a moment of silence (as if he's waiting for a reaction or an answer) and starts scratching something, his arm, his head, his back, he does this many times and its so funny to me :))))
I don’t believe Mr Sonnen’s talents are being wasted or under appreciated, but, my god, he done dun it again. This is an American masterpiece, and should be considered for the M. T. award. Well done, sir.
Not sure why a lot of people (intentionally?) Forget that Khabib retired because he promised his mother he would after his father/coach/best friend passed away. No one at 155 was going to beat that guy.
@@Amzyy Jones is a weight bully stupid. Beating up a smaller older people using all the advantages he needs. Fedor, gsp, stipe, dj all tested themselves against larger opponents. Jones fighting older smaller opponents on steroids slop idiot.
If Kabob would have moved up and took the 170lb belt then he'd get/ deserve a pound for pound argument. He didn't and doesn't. Facts aren't salty. Claim he's the best 55er all day but all the real goats weren't afraid to risk moving up.
To me the greatest fighters are not the ones who never lost but the ones who fight well past their prime and even after loses still achieve beating the best in their late 30s and mid 40s. One example Randy coutur to name one of a few of the truly greatest.
Because for them all, money was the game and cuz of that they don't know when to quit. it was never Khabib concern... and record will be there, allow his record will be at the top for all time.
If Khabib continued he'd wipe the LW division again probably fight GSP and a few WW and the haters would still say he's a chicken for not fighting ngannou and Jones at the same time with a blindfold with his hands tied behind his back, something only chael is capable of doing in the octagon. But imagine if covid didn't happen and his father didn't pass away?
Why do you think his father asked to stop fighting? You ever see Rocky 3? Khabib isn't even 29-0 as a professional, so you keep D riding, and we will keep hating.
@@Steven-mk4gg Lmao I see ur still coping that he mauled everyone 🤡. Don't worry now Islam would dominate you can whine about him soon. And no, he retired coz he honored his family ya 🤡
Bro forget everyone else I like the way you speak khabib is the best no one I say no one could beat him wathc how he damaged Dustin porrier in his prime and Justin gaethje, he wasn't even trying to fight gaethje right and still wopped his ass , khabib the man bro number 1
Khabib already said that he didn't feel the fire inside him anymore after the pass away of his father.. Even when he fought Justin Gaethje, he felt the decreasing of his will. And i think Khabib will lost if he continued. But he is still one of the greatest fighters of all time fighter, he was a great fighter and he still is, just an opinion. Don't be mad Conor's fans or Khabib's haters. 😂
he retire because he cant hide in lightweight division by making 155 weight limit.Crybib is overrated muslim fighter who fights once a year against smaller striker.This guy wants 40 years old Gsp in 155 pound and talk about beating Jon jones and izzy.without that conor fight his legacy isnot even better than tyroon woodley.first 21 opponents are nobodies and rest of opponent are averge or good fighter.Crybib is afraid to fight welterweight guys or guys of his size
The majority might not have given credit, some of us did notice though. We noticed the competition, the "never being injured", the raising your hand when a card is about to fall through, the willingness to be the heel, the different weightclasses, not getting the belt because the opponent missed weight.... the strapping the boots and getting to work. I respect that more than titles....
He promised his father that when his father passes away he will stop fighting. His father knew a fighters life never ends, there's always someone trying to take your crown. Always. His father knew that and did not want him fighting without him there to keep his eyes on not only him but his health and well being, because at the end of the day, no ones going to look out for you more than your own father.
@@knowheregamerschronicles1 lesnar is 5-3, he can't match many of the later fighters. Size advantage was the only think that allowed him to win the 5 fights he won.
People underestimates kabib’s work ethic. He would have done very well if he had stayed. I’m Not saying he would have won every fight , but he would have definitely have had a great record and almost 100% would have been up their with John jones, GSP, and Anderson Silva if he stayed fighting .
One day a legend will rise and be 30 - 0 … he will be champ in 2 divisions possibly 3 and not only will he beat everyone he will also give each beaten champ a rematch and defend his title… till then khabib will remain the legend.
Wow - these fighters are obsessed with Khabib. I am not one of these “Khabib is the 🐐 PERIOD!” kind of guy, but a lot of these fighters sound very jealous of the success he had.
It's mostly cz he made his money and left while they have to keep fighting till 45 to make 1/3rd of his money. And thay guy doesn't even care about money as much
This is the wish of every guy with tons of loses in UfC to see an undefeated guy lose or to just establish the idea in their head that he will lose in order to sleep good at night lol. Them losers gonna take this wish to their graves.
This is a stupid argument. How can anyone be sure that he would have lost? Of course if I guy fight until he 50, he would eventually lose. If he fights 5 more time and dominates all 5 of them, everyone will still make the same argument and claim would have lost if he stayed and 34-0 is not enough. Khabib had a style that was just to hard to beat. On top of that, he had a chin on him so that kinda takes away your punchers chance againt khabib. It's funny that fighters are so jealous of khabib being undefeated that they would make it look like you being undefeated is a negative. Dominick Cruz tried making being undefeated a bad thing. It's hilarious
GOTT. Khabib was the greatest of THAT time. You can’t quit that quick and still be the goat. If he came back now and reclaimed it, then he would be GOAT worthy, which GSP is.
Of course if he competed long enough, he would eventually get beat. It's always smarter to retire too early than too late in combat sports. Overstaying your welcome could change the trajectory of your health and life 20 years down the road.
All honesty I think you was one of the Best fighters of all time Chael. It does take a Brave and Tough sumbitch to step in there with the killers u have, like Anderson Silva in his Prime twice, Jon Jones in his Prime, Fedor, the list is so long of the absolute Best fighters of your time. And u fought them all, and won most of the time. I could only dream of having a career like that, and anyone that doesn't respect what u have done in Wrestling and then MMA is a complete idiot and doesn't know anything about anything. Hold your head high Chael, You are the Freaking Man!!!
Funny thing is I saw a comment on a Khabib vs Porier short by MMAClipmaster under comment "everybody knows his game but nobody can stop him"... How Khabib was a weight bully.. He would balloon up to 200 in a division of strikers.. He was afraid to go up to 170 which had too many wrestlers "
Khabib would be said and done and 10 years later, his name will still be in Undefeated and GOAT discussions. I think that says something. apart from Kamaru Usman, I don't think any of them could hange with him at 170. No one
@@edwardthatch4371 Colby would get wrestle fucked. Look at what he did to Luke in training, you telling me he won't do the same to a guy weighing 20 to 40lbs less?
Khabib will not be talked about in 10 years lmfao, definitely not in the GOAT discussion haha. Hes barley holding up in the GOAT discussion now, only muslims, casuals and russians acctually think hes a GOAT
EXCELLENT Uncle Chael. Thank you for the champion's perspective . Very Insighful, one that can only come from someone who truly knows the fight game. U da man!
If Charles beats Makhachev in Abu Dhabi (their hometown according to Khabib himself), we might see him (Khabib) in the cage one last time. Wouldn´t that be something for the ages Chael?
His best 5 wins are as good as the best wins of Jones and gsp if not better: Dustin, Conor, RDA, Gaethje, Barbosa. And the way he demolished those opponents was even more masterful. Don't forget that the champions Jones fought had a foot in the cage and a foot in the retirement garden.
Wow. I might try this guys technique. Hes a complete imbecilic moronic pole greaser. FACTS OMG its like MAGIC boys, writing "Facts" after any statement makes it absolutely true, real and undeniable
The 4 champs Jon fought went on to fight ( combined) 55 more times. No need to lie about it. And that doesn’t include Glover of course. So that’s 5 champs. Big mistake trying to say anyone in the goat conversation has a better UFC resume.
The thing is he would easy beat everyone. Gaethje and Porier again. He wold beat Dariush Chandler and Olivera. He would beat the young new generation like Arman Tsarukyan or Gamrot. And he definitely would beat Islam Makhacev. Only at Usman in WW we can say ok he maybe take his first lose. Imo he can easy have at least 10 title defense.
@@waelesmair6250 how is that delusional? And why you say lmao while you actually didn’t laugh your a off while you writing that? Tell me why I’m wrong.
I'll say for myself, seeing your career since WEC when you beat Brian something, I was like wow this guy is good, before all the ''antics'', I think a lot of us (especially older) fans really do respect the courage you had in your career. Not just because of who you fought, but the many weight classes, and even though anderson beat you in your first fight, you were a world champion that night in the UFC, and also not to mention a WEC champion, yet they screwed you out of the belt including the promotion that would have went along with it.
@Ajay Gillig that khabib sucks, and he retired because he knows he would get finished, and was scared of losing his undefeated record, GSP is a man, Khabib is a coward
Khabib did everything he wanted to do. he beat the final boss and got the loot drop. instead of hanging around doing every side quest, he moved on. And he made room for his best freind Islam, and i respect that.
@@knavishknack7443 but did this go on his combat sambo record or professional mma record ? And does that change the fact those Olympic champs at sambo were like 2-20 in mma ? That doesn’t make them good competition in this sport because they have accolades in another
honestly I don't think he's that highly rated. Great fighter still but I don't see him in the top 10. He simply didn't prove it, fighting guys who are all known strikers doesn't prove he can beat anyone his weight class. It only proved he could beat strikers, which for a solid grappler is easy if I'm being honest.
@@colecampbell1906 dude like more than half of his UFC opponents are either a Bjj black belt or a wrestler. It’s so funny because you guys keep saying that but you can’t name one wrestler in LW Division. Also it’s so funny why you want to see him vs a wrestler like Usman? All you have to see is how Usman can’t dominante his opponents but Khabib can. I mean did Usman for example or also Deniel Cornier ever dominate a opponent on the ground like Khabib?
No way khabib would have an easy fight against Colby, Usman, Burns, Chimaev, shavkat dude killed himself to make LW and got hospitalized to fight smaller guys than him dudes the best LW forever I think but he can’t be goat cause he never challenged his natural weight class which just happens to have the best world class wrestlers
@@colecampbell1906 I understand what you're saying but unfortunately all the top ranked guys were strikers. So if Khabib refused to fight Barbosa,Conor,Justin,Dustin people would have hammered him. He did beat a young and on a win steak RDA
For him to retire he obviously had lost some fire regardless of his family. So all we can do is presume he’d have lost and lost very soon. He does not deserve goat talk as he just didn’t achieve things others in the conversation have. Submitting Gaethje is no pinnacle. It’s nice, but it’s not the he proved it all moment folks made it to be.
@Tony G in what 5 premier fights with no rematches? And he never moved up for the double champ status to test/show how good he really was…. Usman has done more in his division right now, toss goat way out for Khabib. Wasn’t even the best champ in his time.
I prefer fighter leaving on top than watching legends got beating by younger fighters..that’s what happened to many fighters because of their ego to leaving the game too late..that so sad
lol alright if we’re still saying “29” - 0, at least be fair to the TUF fighters and let their 2 round amateur TUF fights count towards their records too
Khabib is not in any GOAT discussion. He didn't clean out the division. He didn't fulfil many fights, due to his father's plan/paper champ fear of losing. His three significant wins have all been devalued through those opponents losing, 2/3 to Oliveira. Khabib retired after noting Oliveira was the greatest threat at 155. So he bailed on him, like on so many others. Khabib would have been figured out and have fallen to the right opponent for sure. I believe Charles would have done him in. Oliveira has already done more than Khabib, and displayed greater fortitude, winning when stripped or his belt and two defences, whereas they fixed the scales for heavy Khabib versus tge same opponent. Unlike Khabib, Oliveira doesn't care who, doesn't care where, he will fight.
i don't believe khabib would win a fight against dustin and mcgregor today, if you look at both of them they improve much ground game. Charles too, khabib never return because if he return, he eventually lose for charles or dustin.
Khabib is the GOAT. It's weird how people say he isnt because he retired too early. He got the belt 2 years late because Conor was there. Do the math who beats him that he didnt fight in his era?? Eddie Alvarez, Tony Ferguson, Donald Cerrone, Benson Henderson, Nate Diaz, Michael Chandler, Beneil Dariush, Dan Hooker??? Hell no! Oliveira maybe but we'll see how probably that is when he fights Islam.
Khabib is highly overrated he has an impressive number by his name and chain wrestling , nothing else he has 3 good wins and that’s it left way too soon
Rda, Edson, Dusin, Justin, Mcgregor. There's more but these are his really good wins khabib isn't the goat or anything but he has more than 3 good wins lmao
Rocky Marciano did the same thing got to 50 and 0 and retired and he was still in his prime it's just knowing when to get out and now we see him as one of the greatest
He would've eventually battled Chael in a "Hotel Hallway Match" for the Heavyweight Championship
Hotel Chael is undefeated
@@JFKennedeez and undisputed
Khabibs blanket better make his steak medium rare or its gonna be a one sided beating
And lost
HAHA
You're right uncle Chael. He didn't just leave, he left everyone talking.
Not GSP, Not Usman, Not Silva, Not Steroids Jons, Not Izzy but KHABIB IS THE ONLY ONE AFTER BRUCE LEE, We will never know.
People who say Khabib fought cans yet probably comes from the toughest regionals going, when you see so many dagestan fighters are doing so well, And he was the top of that pile
There are still Conor fans for a reason.
"Khabib fought cans"
That is a non statement. You catch anybody saying that you tell them this:
Literally everyone fought cans at the beginning of their career. Very few people pull a Alex Pereira and immediately start fighting bangers as soon as they start MMA. Khabib still never loss. Even more than that. He has more 10-8 rounds than anybody else in combat sports history, never had damage on his face, never drew blood, and has never even been dropped.
This fight Charles and Islam is going to tell us a lot about how things are going to go for the next 5 or 10 years. Will this invasion of Dagestan and Chechnya and other Sambo to MMA places continue to take a stake. As a fan what I want to see always is the best get a chance to compete. If this promotion ended up with 2/3 of its champions from that background, I'd have no problem with it. I want it pure. I want to know who is best and what methods are best because in time it will level out. Everyone will wake up and start finding out what they're doing how they're doing it and copy it. That's how it's supposed to be and how it needs to be.
How many dagestan fighters in the UFC are doing so well compared to other countries?
Here’s the thing- especially for fans old enough to be here from the beginning- there is no way any of us will ever respect a so called “PROFESSIONAL” record that includes 5+ fights that were scheduled for only 2 rounds. No way a 2 round decision in a league with no elbows and no ring or cage, just on a small mat, is seen as a legit “PRO” win. Regardless of where or why or who.
People usually consider Khabib's record to judge him if he is goat or not. However, you got to consider not just the record but the way he won the fights; his dominance. Never a cut on his face nor dropped any blood which is quite astonishing considering how brutal the game is. There's none like him.
Yeah easy to ignore the record when his first 16 opponents are like 16-300 😭😂
But he the goat tho according you the khameat riders that 29-0 is sooo impressive especialllyyy when you look into it
He fought only strikers and he's a goat? Have faced Olympic wrestlers yet? Can he beat heavy weights and tapped them out? If not then he's not apex baddest man on the planet
@@jalen911as Name another fighter who's even gone close to 29-0. Go ahead, we'll wait. While you're at it? What's YOUR record in MMA?
@@jalen911as So EVERY boxer/fighter in the world started of fighting World Champions in their first few matches? Didn't realize you were such an expert on fighting. What's the name of your training facility? I'd love to check it out
I swear Chael is the only guy who could do a channel like this and keep you interested. He literally plays devils advocate with himself.
Indeed 💯
I think a good deal of the things he contemplates are ate the fuck up and so far into left field. He's also insanely biased.
There's a lot of big personalities in MMA, and all of them are the host of this channel.
@@ethernetify still fun tho, why not just let the guy ramble about a random topic someone brought up... even tho it can be nonsense, the videos are still topics about random thoughts answered
Chael loves this sport. Any sport needs people like that who love its history and are part of it. We're lucky to have him. I was just reminiscing about the days of WEC. Man, that was a great time. Chael was there. With any luck we can hold onto the soul of this sport for a good long time
Notice how all these haters call the undefeated champion a quitter. It speaks to there mentality their losers in real life but want to project it on to a winner
Chael just letting everyone know, in no uncertain terms, that he would've remained undefeated and undisputed in both 2009 and 2019 against all his previous opponents. 💪
People forget his father passed away, and his mother didn’t want him to continue. You also forget that khabibs father had a legacy that khabib selflessly put aside his own dreams to complete his fathers dream. This is why he’s pushing the other fighters
Yeah, I guess it's despite the reasons tho u know, just kind of have to go by the numbers and not the back story, but I'm sure we probably agree he was destined to go down in history tho and everything about that situation is just such a shame
There are a lot of good reasons for Khabib to not fight again. To overcome fighting without his father and to get back in condition to where he was when he has so many responsibilities now you risk tarnishing that record and legacy but it's going to be excruciating wanting to see him fight Charles if Charles beats Islam.
Maybe he could be a big boy and make decisions for himself like a man.
Khabib is retired and haters still want him to lose a fight HAHAHAHAH
Khabib doesn't give a F>>> about GOAT status MF
@@elmochacho3 Yeah guys, elmochacho knows what a real man looks like, he rents them every Saturday night when he's bored of playing FIFA!
Even if Khabib returned and absolutely smash Oliveira, people would still be doubting & hating on him...
Khabib the fighter is behind us...it's the time for Khabib the coach...
100%. Khabib is special among a special class of humans.
My gut says he will be one of the great coaches, maybe a Danaher level.
Watching Oliveira against Dustin and Justin just give me a clear confidence that Khabib will dominate Oliveira. Oliveira has better chance against Islam.
Lmao
@@Respect-sf4tm yeah Charles literally beat them all faster than Khabib....
I don't see Khabib as the GOAT but I do respect him more than any other fighter from recent times. The fact that he is honoring his mothers wishes shows what kind of man he is, regardless of what naysayers and haters say about his legacy, being the man that he is admirable. Also he has an entire fight promotion now, let him further his legacy how he wants not how you meatriders and haters want him to. It is obvious fighting without his father wasn't going to be the same for him. Let the man live jeez.
Can never be the goat struggling to make 155 lol have you seen him now 😬 he’s 200lbs what a fucking fraud lol scared to fight in his natural weight class
Daniel Cormier is a better fighter 2 weight champion didn’t duck anybody wasn’t scared to move up or down
Who would you say is the goat then? I too somewhat agree that he is not but I would call him the goat based on what he has done but I would not doubt it if he fought a really strong wrestler. He just dominated everyone in a way no one else has done. I think whoever wins between Islam and Charles has a great chance to surpass Khabib in a few fights after the title fight. They have a chance to fight more of the top guys than Khabib did.
Nobody with double digit losses can surpass Khabib. I agree that it's respectable to retire on your own agenda. People shit on Ricky Williams for quitting football and called him a lazy pothead. He spent the next 4 years studying Chinese Medicine. He did the equivalent of getting a Chiropractor and Acupuncture license as well as extensive training in nutrition and herbalism. He wasn't lazy. He just had other interests than football. The people talking shit didn't lead their college to a national championship or average over 100 yards rushing a game for multiple seasons.
I respect humans that are more multi faceted. The guy who said Olivera could surpass Khabib, how? Let's say Olivera wins his next 3, and then losses. He will still have a ton of losses. Khabib ran through everyone the UFC gave him and contrary to what Connor says if you look at the combined records of his opponents pre UFC, those opponents had a winning record. In fact they won nearly 70% of their fights before fighting Khabib. Not bums who were 2-5 like Connor said. Nor was he fighting " in his father's shows". M-1 was not owned by Khabibs dad lol. He beat the best guys in 3 smaller promotions then came to UFC and made beating Porrier, Gaethje, and Connor look so easy. Olivera got a concussion fighting Porrier and rocked 3 times by Gaethje. Khabib barely got touched. Olivera was ground and pounded by Paul Felder and he already had over 10 UFC fights then. He has improved but Islam will probably destroy him.
@@mateosmind751 I think the GOAT is whoever you think it is, you have your reasons the other guy has his…however I don’t believe that just because someone has losses means they can’t be a GOAT, that’s ludicrous. Many people who are not combatants or ever really had to fight don’t understand that in the fight game “you win some, you lose some” and that’s just life. Khabib is the only one that I can think of with almost thirty fights and a perfect record. In my eyes to be called the GOAT you have to beat the very best and I just don’t feel that’s what Khabib did, if he stayed in the fight game and continued only winning then most certainly…. Also I don’t see Islam winning the fight with Charles at all unless he edges out a decision. But Charles has the most submissions, finishes and fight of the night bonuses in UFC history so I believe he will submit him or knock him out. Either way I am very excited for the fight, the Edwards vs Usman fight shocked me so maybe there’s chance Islam will shock me too. I only see Islam winning one way, but Charles has a multitude of ways to win. In my opinion versatility trumps specialty in most cases. Idk, we shall come fight night.
Agreed Jon Jones is the GOAT forever! NOBODY else beat every fighter they faced at their own game. Jones litterally thru caution to the wind and beat EVERYBODY at their strengths. Definition of GOAT
I was so happy for khabib when he retired. Such a big moment to retire as the undefeated champion by request from his mother after the passing of his father. Epic.
he retire because he cant hide in lightweight division by making 155 weight limit.Crybib is overrated muslim fighter who fights once a year against smaller striker.This guy wants 40 years old Gsp in 155 pound and talk about beating Jon jones and izzy.without that conor fight his legacy isnot even better than tyroon woodley.first 21 oppenents are nobodies and rest of opponent are averge or good fighter.Crybib is afraid to fight welterweight guys or guys of his size
@@grgyosh you guys just love sucking hating on khabib
I was more happy for the division 😂
@@grgyosh oh snap Khabib was the only fighter dropping weight? I didn't know that I thought everyone dropped weight. Huh I guess you learn something new everyday
@@grgyosh I think you need a box of tissues to wipe away those tears 😢 . Khabib must touch some nerves 😂😂
I'll be honest I think if khabib was a white guy from America who shared the same values as the westerners he would have easily been given the goat status but cuz he is a practicing Muslim from the mountains of russia people use any excuse they can to try and diminish an absolutely incredible achievement that no other fighter might achieve! Every opponent he faced since beating RDA (who became a champ after loosing to khabib) people said khabib won't be able to do the same thing to. Michael Johnson who beat poirier and Ferguson. Edson barboza, McGregor, poirier, gaethje. Remember that until Oliveira beat Ferguson no one saw him as a threat to the top 5. khabib had literally demolished that division so the hate coming at him is just not gunna stick!!
Another thing to remember is that if khabib was given the opportunity to fight for the belt (as he had deserved) before they gave McGregor that opportunity, khabib could have already defended the belt 6/7 times atleast but that's a different story.
Exactly 💯 💯 💯
Just , no and take that prejudiced 💩 out of here. MMA was founded by , to put it crudely, “foreigners” and that’s always been fine.
But I will say, If all of his fights had been scheduled for 3 rounds, had been fought in a ring or cage, and with fewer restrictions ( legal to use elbows, etc) we would accept his “pro” record and give him more credit.
There will always be trolls and haters but real mma fans know Khabib was great. But we won’t accept his “amateur” fights as proof or justification for being called the greatest of all time. One can’t compare what he could have done against what others have actually done.
Khabib not only produced one of the most dominant runs ever, he managed to do it and walk away while leaving fans with a "what if" debate that will last for a decade, thats why he's the greatest story in MMA
And is coaching a team of studs coming behind him one in his own division they say might even be better and running a new promotion Eagle FC.
@Soul ByThePound 🍼
Baby's story is much more intriguing then Olives one.
@Soul ByThePound All solid points. Valid this stuff needs to be said. Deserves to be said. They are different their careers are different, and it is an interesting discussion comparing them.
Getting to 29 and 0 took a lot of things and Khabib had them all. These include how his career was managed. There's a lot to talk about and as this fight draws near I'm sure will be talked about. We should enjoy this. This is a special time. The first one we've had in a while.
Can you imagine the beautiful torment if Charles beats Islam of fans torn wanting him to come back and at the same time not? It would be awesome.
@@darrellowings2343 i think its hard to have this discussion without also acknowledging that Charles comes from a nation with a long proud history in the sport, Khabib is the only reason the world even knows that a place called Dagestan exists. What he had to ov ercome in its own way is as major as Charles fight against his health issues and his own background struggle. 2 genuine greats, feel lucky to have witnessed both in their prime.
We are still talking about Khabib and his record years later so it must be a positive...
Hasn't even been 2 years yet
@@antoniocontreras7559 "And Still!!"
That entire class of '99 vs Chael at the same time. Still undefeated undisputed GOAT
In a hallway, not even a contest. Hallway Chael GOAT
Khabib would have minimum 7 or 8 title defenses if they gave his title shot in 2016 instead giving it to Conor, so title defense thing is biased argument. Khabib dominated 8 top 10 ranked LWs, and won vs. 4 future champs before joining UFC.
@Soul ByThePound Nice fantasy indeed, tony and khabib lined up what 5 times? It was never meant to be buddy, tony would likely win if if if, we will never know and i wish one of those times, or 5, they had managed to fight. Its pie in the sky guys. So if you add 5 to the 13 that makes 2 x 9 doesnt it? Lucky i finished ekementary math, not spelking tjough😁
@Soul ByThePound khabib is overrated
@Soul ByThePound ur made up story is closer to the original than u realize silly goose... Lol the guy is talking history u may b unaware of, but Khabib was already being given the title shot long bfor he actually got it, Conor jumped in front of him when he was initially supposed to fight for the title so that Conor could challenge for the second belt, so basically every fight after RDA should have been a title defense had Conor not gone for champ champ status, I'm a little murky on the time frames myself but the OP does check out, true story...
Good point
Khabib is retired and haters still want him to lose a fight HAHAHAHAH
Khabib doesn't give a F>>> about GOAT status MF
Khabib never showed his ceiling, nor did he stay long enough to get enough title defenses to be seriously considered for the GOAT. I believe what khabib said about his dad being there and so he’ll never do it again. And that’s sad for us evaluating but for him, that’s fine. Good for him
Facts
Khabib is retired and haters still want him to lose a fight HAHAHAHAH
Khabib doesn't give a F>>> about GOAT status MF
he retire because he cant hide in lightweight division by making 155 weight limit.Crybib is overrated muslim fighter who fights once a year against smaller striker.This guy wants 40 years old Gsp in 155 pound and talk about beating Jon jones and izzy.without that conor fight his legacy isnot even better than tyroon woodley.first 21 oppenents are nobodies and rest of opponent are averge or good fighter.Crybib is afraid to fight welterweight guys or guys of his size
@@grgyosh stop
@@grgyosh 29-0 the only undefeated champion in the entire history of MMA and you and other haters ca do absolutely nothing about it hahahahahahah
FFFFF UUUUUU
Tbh i think Khabib would be able to stay on top for 2-3 years at least as long as he stayed focused.
His skills and mindset where on another level.
I completely agree. The only way that I see anyone defeating him would have been by a lucky shot that knocked him out - we all have to admit that his striking defense wasn't all that great, but he controlled distance to make up for that. I don't see anyone submitting him, that's for sure.
Yep, there was nothing displayed that showed any sign of slowing or diminished skills. He didn’t spar a lot as not to take head damage. For his fight style, I think he could have dominated another 5-7 years. He was just too good. I mean who goes through a fighting career in the UFC without having BLED??
Abdulmanop Nurmagomedov took young boys and invested a lifetime of training and knowledge and the way of life and turn them into world class athletes. Khabib deserves the world championship and to be known as the greatest of all time and Abdulmanap realize that Islam would also be a World Champ as well as many others under his tutelage. Until the Mixed Martial Arts community can come up with a solution to Sambo very few if any will ever reach Championship status as long as a combat sambo practioner is in contention.
I very much agree with this, for now they have the advantage in experience as they have seen many BJJ black belts, in comparison to the fewer BJJ black belts who have had experience with guys from that region of the world with the less popular style
If Sambo was easy....lol
@@darrontuagalu8865 ... They would call it jiu jitsu
@@darrontuagalu8865 in America we say "easy as pie"
In Dagestan they say "easy as JJ"
@@dr.evil2some847 I think in Japan they say easy as Gracie BJJ
Okay Khabib is the most dominant but let’s set the record straight for the haters: Khabib didn’t retire because he was scared of competition. Dude has been competing for his whole life. He retired for his MOM and DAD
Weirdos really think he ran from the division when his father died right before he retired. It's obvious what happened and I respect his decision to walk away at the top.
His dad's plan was to go 30-0. He didnt retire for his dead dad who cant forgive him and instead used his mom as an excuse even tho she can forgive him. Let me ask you this. Khabib never took damage in his fights. Why wud his mom worry about him fighting then? Its cause she knows how close to death this dude came to make a weight he never belonged at.
@@TriWaZe Bozo comment, but go off lmao
lamest excuse ever. his resume is weak
@@fgc1850 Dos Anjos, Laquinta, Barboza, Mcgregor, Poirer, Gaethje.All in their Prime? These names are scary. And he DOMINATED AND MAULED WITHOUT LOSING A ROUND. Quit Talking.
Isn’t it simple? His father wanted 30-0. His mother told him not to continue fighting after his father passing. Away so he respected that and retired. Why is it so difficult for westerners to understand that means something?
It's hard to understand because we're big boys and girls who make decisions for ourselves like adults.
Khabib is retired and haters still want him to lose a fight HAHAHAHAH
Khabib doesn't give a F>>> about GOAT status MF
That’s not what Chael is saying, chael is saying is that if I Habib would’ve continue fighting he would have eventually lost
@@hammbaby lol
You miss the core point..
It's fine he retired but he then tried to claim he was on the lvl of GSP JONES
That's the issue.
You can't just say sorry guys I'm going to do 1/2 of what you did or less and retire with just 3 top 3 opponents in 1 weight class and I want to get the same lvl of respect..
That's what's cheese.
@@flimflama9333 but Jones has less fights
90% he would've destroyed everybody till 35-0 and then he will retire and then people will say "oh he ran away"
@Soul ByThePound stop hating and just suck it up. You dont like the guy but hes the best of his era
@Soul ByThePoundonce he had 3 fights in a year.
Get a life lifeless
People are so sensitive when it comes to khabib they either act like he's their boyfriend and defend him or that he only fought cans and "only has 3 good wins." Realistically khabib is the lw goat with some really good wins but he left a few things unanswered like fighting at ww or the next generation of lws
Now we see islam
@Soul ByThePound did Leon Edwards deserve a title shot?
We all know Chael, 29-0. Speaks volumes.
I hear this about Khabib a lot and hey it's just an opinion but the first thing I would wonder is do we have an example of anyone that got to 29/0 but kept fighting and eventually lost? Anybody win their first 29?
Khabib's career is a road map to how to have an exemplary, flawless career. Young fighters should study it if they think they have the God given ability to reach that.
Chael's career is a road map to how to make a living in this sport to be relevant to compete at a high level and continue to be relevant after you're done competing. Every young fighter should study that.
My favorite Little Evil was WEC getting it started fighting Cub fighting Faber getting that party started over there. That was a big contribution to MMA. It was a big deal to WEC and WEC was very much about smaller divisions the UFC didn't have or weren't pushing. It proved they were viable and man the talent that came out of the WEC that is still freaking fighting today! I love that era and the Tap out boys Mask, Scrape and Punk Ass. RIP Mask. Great era and did wonders for MMA.
Ive heard of plenty in the fight game that were like 100 - 0 type of scores before losing first one
@@darrontuagalu8865 Well the most relevant really to me would be in the UFC but it's still a worthy point. Heck all of Khabib's weren't in the UFC. Part of me can't help wanting to see him fight Charles if Charles beats Islam but I'm torn. I kind of don't want to see him fight again.
@@darrellowings2343 Yeah no one starts off in UFC you have to do well in these small feeder orgs that haters try to take the piss out of to discredit fighters they hate or rival orgs the way ben askren did, probably not great example
Here is the thing about Khabib 29-0..he never get dropped, never bleed, not even a scratch on his face. He made the fight with no 1 contenders in Dustin and Justin looked too one sided. This is not something I've ever seen.
@@Respect-sf4tm All true. Undeniable. What I wonder is how many fighters of his style would even be allowed. He has shown the perfect style to win a cage match.
I respect the ones who are searching for their limits and don't care about the risks. That's why Khabib feels incomplete. The whole Khabib experience feels incomplete, because we never got to see his limit. We never got to see the one to defeat him. Khabib gave us blue balls.
Because he was levels above everybody Else
He doesn’t care bro 😂😂😂
Khabib is fully satisfied with his decision to fulfill his mother's wish. Filial piety and honoring parents are prioritized over a career for a muslim
Khabib doesnt feel incomplete, apparently he feels like a light heavy weight these days but oh well, mums the word so we will never know boys
@@biw3 no he was levels above strikers on the ground , never fought anyone decent on the ground. He’ll at least Islam fought arman khabib fights kickboxers exclusively unless his father sets him up against sambo bums in Russia
"İf he hung around long enough he would have lost" to who rn?
Give me names. Don't just tell me he's gonna definitely lose and expect me to accept that when there is still no one in the division who would even come close to beating him, till this day.
Khabib is right , Floyd Mayweather is the Khabib of Boxing.
Rocky Marciano is the Khabib of boxing, he didnt dodge anyone either
It's so funny when Chael makes a point or asks a questions and takes a moment of silence (as if he's waiting for a reaction or an answer) and starts scratching something, his arm, his head, his back, he does this many times and its so funny to me :))))
I don’t believe Mr Sonnen’s talents are being wasted or under appreciated, but, my god, he done dun it again. This is an American masterpiece, and should be considered for the M. T. award. Well done, sir.
If Combat Sambo were easy they would call it jiu-jitsu. - Khabib Nurmagomedov 2022
Chael is so humble he’s not even mentioning when he made 155 and beat khabib
"Never lost a fight." Love it!!
"He would of lost eventually " what a strong argument 🙃
Not sure why a lot of people (intentionally?) Forget that Khabib retired because he promised his mother he would after his father/coach/best friend passed away.
No one at 155 was going to beat that guy.
Jon Jones and George Saint Pierre are the GOATS. Khabib is right up there though.
you're mental if you leave prime Anderson out
Fedor, gsp, Dj, stipe over far ahead of jones and khabib.
@@chitoes1707 Jones is the goat you knob none of those guys except GSP and Silva are close
SILVA
@@Amzyy Jones is a weight bully stupid. Beating up a smaller older people using all the advantages he needs. Fedor, gsp, stipe, dj all tested themselves against larger opponents. Jones fighting older smaller opponents on steroids slop idiot.
I felt the words. The fact that a man like him never grabbed that gold strap only adds to the sport. Great man! Thank you
Salty Khabib haters never fail to crack me up
He did only fight strikers 🤷♂️
@@Roryreacts RDA is not just a striker, neither is Pat Healy even Abel Trujillo is not only a striker
@@limbcollector22 those are your examples of great grapplers? 😂
Here , Here !
If Kabob would have moved up and took the 170lb belt then he'd get/ deserve a pound for pound argument. He didn't and doesn't. Facts aren't salty. Claim he's the best 55er all day but all the real goats weren't afraid to risk moving up.
Me. 26 year old man. Using a cane to walk. Stuck around too long trying to accomplish goals I felt I was so close to reaching. Rip
Hang tough
Who knows if he would’ve lost but I know he didn’t lose a single fight
29-0
To me the greatest fighters are not the ones who never lost but the ones who fight well past their prime and even after loses still achieve beating the best in their late 30s and mid 40s. One example Randy coutur to name one of a few of the truly greatest.
Because for them all, money was the game and cuz of that they don't know when to quit. it was never Khabib concern... and record will be there, allow his record will be at the top for all time.
Every dog has his day and khabib knew that .
If Khabib continued he'd wipe the LW division again probably fight GSP and a few WW and the haters would still say he's a chicken for not fighting ngannou and Jones at the same time with a blindfold with his hands tied behind his back, something only chael is capable of doing in the octagon.
But imagine if covid didn't happen and his father didn't pass away?
Why do you think his father asked to stop fighting?
You ever see Rocky 3?
Khabib isn't even 29-0 as a professional, so you keep D riding, and we will keep hating.
@@Steven-mk4gg Lmao I see ur still coping that he mauled everyone 🤡. Don't worry now Islam would dominate you can whine about him soon. And no, he retired coz he honored his family ya 🤡
@@Steven-mk4gg isn’t even 29:0 as a pro?
Dude only fought nobodys, charles would kick his ass like he will kick islam ass!
Bro forget everyone else I like the way you speak khabib is the best no one I say no one could beat him wathc how he damaged Dustin porrier in his prime and Justin gaethje, he wasn't even trying to fight gaethje right and still wopped his ass , khabib the man bro number 1
People who say Khabib fought cans really don't know MMA. It ain't boxing. But I really wish Khabib vs Tony wasn't "cursed".
Khabib nurmagomedov is the G.O.A.T
Khabib never bled in the octagon..let that sink in!
Seemed to get alot of blood on him though😉
No thanks pal. Sounds like you're the kinda weirdo that enjoys menstrual cycles.
Khabib already said that he didn't feel the fire inside him anymore after the pass away of his father.. Even when he fought Justin Gaethje, he felt the decreasing of his will. And i think Khabib will lost if he continued. But he is still one of the greatest fighters of all time fighter, he was a great fighter and he still is, just an opinion. Don't be mad Conor's fans or Khabib's haters. 😂
Yaa man khabib could have lost,no one defeated kamaru upto yesterday but he is defeated by leon no matter it came at a last time it came
he retire because he cant hide in lightweight division by making 155 weight limit.Crybib is overrated muslim fighter who fights once a year against smaller striker.This guy wants 40 years old Gsp in 155 pound and talk about beating Jon jones and izzy.without that conor fight his legacy isnot even better than tyroon woodley.first 21 opponents are nobodies and rest of opponent are averge or good fighter.Crybib is afraid to fight welterweight guys or guys of his size
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The majority might not have given credit, some of us did notice though. We noticed the competition, the "never being injured", the raising your hand when a card is about to fall through, the willingness to be the heel, the different weightclasses, not getting the belt because the opponent missed weight.... the strapping the boots and getting to work. I respect that more than titles....
He promised his father that when his father passes away he will stop fighting. His father knew a fighters life never ends, there's always someone trying to take your crown. Always. His father knew that and did not want him fighting without him there to keep his eyes on not only him but his health and well being, because at the end of the day, no ones going to look out for you more than your own father.
truth
Yall must have great dads
Khabib the goat 🙏 humble respectful man role model
Khabib loses to no current fighters, including Oliveira. Maybe if he stayed for a decade longer he might have lost.
Even Lesnar,it's called old age
@@knowheregamerschronicles1 lesnar is 5-3, he can't match many of the later fighters. Size advantage was the only think that allowed him to win the 5 fights he won.
@@shafqatishan437 I don't know why you mention size when there's a weight category and limit
@@afixithei.V go watch lesnar vs mir and tell me there is no size advantage
@@lianrodriguez1408 it's easier to move about with less body weight so how does it favour the bigger person?
People underestimates kabib’s work ethic. He would have done very well if he had stayed. I’m Not saying he would have won every fight , but he would have definitely have had a great record and almost 100% would have been up their with John jones, GSP, and Anderson Silva if he stayed fighting .
Chael, If his dad was still around he would of kept fighting.
One day a legend will rise and be 30 - 0 … he will be champ in 2 divisions possibly 3 and not only will he beat everyone he will also give each beaten champ a rematch and defend his title… till then khabib will remain the legend.
Wow - these fighters are obsessed with Khabib. I am not one of these “Khabib is the 🐐 PERIOD!” kind of guy, but a lot of these fighters sound very jealous of the success he had.
It's mostly cz he made his money and left while they have to keep fighting till 45 to make 1/3rd of his money. And thay guy doesn't even care about money as much
@websurfer476 how is his resume better? he fought at the weakest weight class at that time. His biggest win is cejudo
@Soul ByThePound if your saying lightweight is a weak division your just delusional its been the best weight class in the ufc for a long time
This is the wish of every guy with tons of loses in UfC to see an undefeated guy lose or to just establish the idea in their head that he will lose in order to sleep good at night lol.
Them losers gonna take this wish to their graves.
This is a stupid argument. How can anyone be sure that he would have lost? Of course if I guy fight until he 50, he would eventually lose. If he fights 5 more time and dominates all 5 of them, everyone will still make the same argument and claim would have lost if he stayed and 34-0 is not enough. Khabib had a style that was just to hard to beat. On top of that, he had a chin on him so that kinda takes away your punchers chance againt khabib. It's funny that fighters are so jealous of khabib being undefeated that they would make it look like you being undefeated is a negative. Dominick Cruz tried making being undefeated a bad thing. It's hilarious
GOTT.
Khabib was the greatest of THAT time.
You can’t quit that quick and still be the goat.
If he came back now and reclaimed it, then he would be GOAT worthy, which GSP is.
Of course if he competed long enough, he would eventually get beat. It's always smarter to retire too early than too late in combat sports. Overstaying your welcome could change the trajectory of your health and life 20 years down the road.
Legend has it ,Chaels skin is held back by a titanium C-Clamp to keep him looking crisp
All honesty I think you was one of the Best fighters of all time Chael. It does take a Brave and Tough sumbitch to step in there with the killers u have, like Anderson Silva in his Prime twice, Jon Jones in his Prime, Fedor, the list is so long of the absolute Best fighters of your time. And u fought them all, and won most of the time. I could only dream of having a career like that, and anyone that doesn't respect what u have done in Wrestling and then MMA is a complete idiot and doesn't know anything about anything. Hold your head high Chael, You are the Freaking Man!!!
Even Hendo does not have Uncle Chael's resume.
Khabib knows he can lose, but that's is not the reason why he retired. He said "win or lose, I know who I am".
He would’ve gotten fooked by Oliveira. Ran away from the rematch vs Mcgregor as well. Dude is smart for leaving I’ll tell you that 💯
Cope
Hahahaha stop
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Khabib isn't even 29-0 as a professional, cope on that homie.
Casual
Khabib has the most 10-8 rounds, period. mma or boxing. Hes painfully dominant. he would have rag dolled charles
You forgot to mention Chael Sonnen in the list of the greats. Never lost a round.
Khabob isn’t even top 5 all time and yes connor is the 5th
Man you'd think a Conor nuthugger would know how to spell his boy's name.
Funny thing is I saw a comment on a Khabib vs Porier short by MMAClipmaster under comment "everybody knows his game but nobody can stop him"... How Khabib was a weight bully.. He would balloon up to 200 in a division of strikers.. He was afraid to go up to 170 which had too many wrestlers "
Khabib is the greatest LW of all time
His career feels incomplete because he never got a competition
Khabib is a welterweight period
Nobody fight in their natural weigclass. It’s normal
@@name980 lol what?😂
The most stupid argument in mma, you think he was the only one cutting?
@@jwr3289 Weight Bully
@@chike8674 kid 🤦🏻♂️
Whenever you clean at your job make sure you don't do it all! Leave some for the next guy. Chael is a genius
Khabib would be said and done and 10 years later, his name will still be in Undefeated and GOAT discussions. I think that says something. apart from Kamaru Usman, I don't think any of them could hange with him at 170. No one
Colby beat Dagestanis who had beaten khabib in the Olympics
@@edwardthatch4371 Colby would get wrestle fucked. Look at what he did to Luke in training, you telling me he won't do the same to a guy weighing 20 to 40lbs less?
@@thekaiser1156 🤣 u dummy. If usman couldn't wrestlefuck colby khabib ain't doing shit.
Khabib will not be talked about in 10 years lmfao, definitely not in the GOAT discussion haha.
Hes barley holding up in the GOAT discussion now, only muslims, casuals and russians acctually think hes a GOAT
@@thekaiser1156 You are aware that Luke is a stricter right
Coach never has dull content. Ever.
Chael talking like he didn't was undefeated in 4 divisions
5*
EXCELLENT Uncle Chael. Thank you for the champion's perspective . Very Insighful, one that can only come from someone who truly knows the fight game. U da man!
If Charles beats Makhachev in Abu Dhabi (their hometown according to Khabib himself), we might see him (Khabib) in the cage one last time. Wouldn´t that be something for the ages Chael?
They are from Russia.
His mum would have to allow im afraid
5 title defenses in one night, double leg after double leg, 5 times !!! ON A ROAD !!! ..... GOAT !!!
With the exception of his last few fights… It’s a fake, weak record. Facts
His best 5 wins are as good as the best wins of Jones and gsp if not better: Dustin, Conor, RDA, Gaethje, Barbosa. And the way he demolished those opponents was even more masterful. Don't forget that the champions Jones fought had a foot in the cage and a foot in the retirement garden.
Wow. I might try this guys technique.
Hes a complete imbecilic moronic pole greaser. FACTS
OMG its like MAGIC boys, writing "Facts" after any statement makes it absolutely true, real and undeniable
The 4 champs Jon fought went on to fight ( combined) 55 more times. No need to lie about it.
And that doesn’t include Glover of course. So that’s 5 champs. Big mistake trying to say anyone in the goat conversation has a better UFC resume.
Kabib did the right thing! And he's still cashing on that!
The thing is he would easy beat everyone. Gaethje and Porier again. He wold beat Dariush Chandler and Olivera. He would beat the young new generation like Arman Tsarukyan or Gamrot. And he definitely would beat Islam Makhacev. Only at Usman in WW we can say ok he maybe take his first lose. Imo he can easy have at least 10 title defense.
Lmao delusional
@@waelesmair6250 how is that delusional? And why you say lmao while you actually didn’t laugh your a off while you writing that? Tell me why I’m wrong.
@@waelesmair6250 wait you say LW Division still have a Champ and you call me delusional?
Oliveira is better than khabib.
@@Deadpoolcomunista dude you know Olivera only since like yesterday ahha
I'll say for myself, seeing your career since WEC when you beat Brian something, I was like wow this guy is good, before all the ''antics'', I think a lot of us (especially older) fans really do respect the courage you had in your career. Not just because of who you fought, but the many weight classes, and even though anderson beat you in your first fight, you were a world champion that night in the UFC, and also not to mention a WEC champion, yet they screwed you out of the belt including the promotion that would have went along with it.
if khabib and i had met 28-1 would be a record held by some random mountain guy
@Ajay Gillig that khabib sucks, and he retired because he knows he would get finished, and was scared of losing his undefeated record, GSP is a man, Khabib is a coward
Khabib did everything he wanted to do. he beat the final boss and got the loot drop. instead of hanging around doing every side quest, he moved on. And he made room for his best freind Islam, and i respect that.
Khabib is 13-0 in all honesty the first 16 opponents are cans and many were debuting or terrible negative records
Many of those opponents are former wresting sambo champs and olympians.
@@knavishknack7443 but did this go on his combat sambo record or professional mma record ? And does that change the fact those Olympic champs at sambo were like 2-20 in mma ? That doesn’t make them good competition in this sport because they have accolades in another
Chael, your argument has made you the greatest of all time in my book, because you have opened my eyes to something I’ve never thought about
Khabib would have moved up in weight and eventually had to fight a good wrestler. Still top 4-6 all time but not number 1
honestly I don't think he's that highly rated. Great fighter still but I don't see him in the top 10. He simply didn't prove it, fighting guys who are all known strikers doesn't prove he can beat anyone his weight class. It only proved he could beat strikers, which for a solid grappler is easy if I'm being honest.
@@colecampbell1906 dude like more than half of his UFC opponents are either a Bjj black belt or a wrestler. It’s so funny because you guys keep saying that but you can’t name one wrestler in LW Division. Also it’s so funny why you want to see him vs a wrestler like Usman? All you have to see is how Usman can’t dominante his opponents but Khabib can. I mean did Usman for example or also Deniel Cornier ever dominate a opponent on the ground like Khabib?
No way khabib would have an easy fight against Colby, Usman, Burns, Chimaev, shavkat dude killed himself to make LW and got hospitalized to fight smaller guys than him dudes the best LW forever I think but he can’t be goat cause he never challenged his natural weight class which just happens to have the best world class wrestlers
@@JJS595 THIS!
@@colecampbell1906 I understand what you're saying but unfortunately all the top ranked guys were strikers. So if Khabib refused to fight Barbosa,Conor,Justin,Dustin people would have hammered him.
He did beat a young and on a win steak RDA
I can turn the volume all the way down and still hear him
For him to retire he obviously had lost some fire regardless of his family. So all we can do is presume he’d have lost and lost very soon. He does not deserve goat talk as he just didn’t achieve things others in the conversation have. Submitting Gaethje is no pinnacle. It’s nice, but it’s not the he proved it all moment folks made it to be.
@Tony G in what 5 premier fights with no rematches? And he never moved up for the double champ status to test/show how good he really was…. Usman has done more in his division right now, toss goat way out for Khabib. Wasn’t even the best champ in his time.
I prefer fighter leaving on top than watching legends got beating by younger fighters..that’s what happened to many fighters because of their ego to leaving the game too late..that so sad
lol alright if we’re still saying “29” - 0, at least be fair to the TUF fighters and let their 2 round amateur TUF fights count towards their records too
Uncle Chael at his absolute best. Love you man 🙌🙏💪
If he continues he would be 69-0 😂
I recently found out khabib never fought Tony, I think that’s a significant factor in the legacy of Khabibs legacy
Khabib is not in any GOAT discussion. He didn't clean out the division. He didn't fulfil many fights, due to his father's plan/paper champ fear of losing. His three significant wins have all been devalued through those opponents losing, 2/3 to Oliveira. Khabib retired after noting Oliveira was the greatest threat at 155. So he bailed on him, like on so many others. Khabib would have been figured out and have fallen to the right opponent for sure. I believe Charles would have done him in. Oliveira has already done more than Khabib, and displayed greater fortitude, winning when stripped or his belt and two defences, whereas they fixed the scales for heavy Khabib versus tge same opponent. Unlike Khabib, Oliveira doesn't care who, doesn't care where, he will fight.
Calm down brotha
facts!
Cope
i don't believe khabib would win a fight against dustin and mcgregor today, if you look at both of them they improve much ground game.
Charles too, khabib never return because if he return, he eventually lose for charles or dustin.
Salty Khabib haters are hilarious
The true hypothetical here is that Chael never retired, after knocking Francis Nganou out, cut to 155lbs and submitted khabib shortly after!
If khabib had of carried on fighting he would of got smoked by oliveira...give that man his belt back...
Khabib would smoke oliveria easily, watch how Islam destroys oliveria 😅
How Olivera would beat him
Yea you're definitely a casual jumping on the bandwagon
@@name980 don’t be silly
Khabib is the GOAT. It's weird how people say he isnt because he retired too early. He got the belt 2 years late because Conor was there. Do the math who beats him that he didnt fight in his era?? Eddie Alvarez, Tony Ferguson, Donald Cerrone, Benson Henderson, Nate Diaz, Michael Chandler, Beneil Dariush, Dan Hooker??? Hell no! Oliveira maybe but we'll see how probably that is when he fights Islam.
Khabib is highly overrated he has an impressive number by his name and chain wrestling , nothing else he has 3 good wins and that’s it left way too soon
Rda, Edson, Dusin, Justin, Mcgregor. There's more but these are his really good wins khabib isn't the goat or anything but he has more than 3 good wins lmao
@@wow5623 oh ok my b 5 out of 29 then
LEAVE THAT MAN KHABIB ALONE. Dude has been gone for almost 2 years. All he ever wanted at the time he was competing he was the best & he got that.
THAT WAS BRILLIANT BROTHER !!!
Rocky Marciano did the same thing got to 50 and 0 and retired and he was still in his prime it's just knowing when to get out and now we see him as one of the greatest