West Coast chose the eagle as it's one of Australia's apex predators and there is a story that it is because the team had to fly so often to play in the eastern states. Additionally the eagle always faces east (right) on the jumpers to face (and prey) on the other teams in the league. Oh, and eagles are freakin' cool!
Hey latterature I really enjoyed this video. Thanks heaps.👍 I was wondering if you could do a 'hypothetical' episode one day. The Mason Cox success story in recent years has resparked an old obsession of mine. Mainly of how to get our great game the traction it so deserves as a world class league that attracts the best athletes in the world and create a truly cosmopolitan competition. If we were to ever crack a major market of let's say the USA how would it be done?. How can the AFL even get a foothold in a nation that already has other huge sports? Our marketing campaigns and tv deals have yeilded very little traction over the decades. Iv developed a strategy and I'd like to hear your opinion. In one word 'KIDS'. What if each AFL club picks a town or region in the United States to set up base. That club introduces an Ozkick program to every school in the area from grade 1-4 or 5. And stick to that for 5 years. And then double down on that and bring it the junior high school aswell for another 5 years. As the decade draws to a close the AFL would have indoctrinated thousands of US kids to the fundamentals of our game. Those kids would teach other kids and so on and so on. And the love of the game will spread. But the real kicker is....that the AFL club that introduced Oz kick to that region would develop a kinship with that particular Club back home in Australia. Maybe even calling themselves idk the Austin Magpie's or the Salt lake City Tigers. You know what I mean. The point is we've created a talent pool. And it feeds directly to the AFL. And then flow in effect is in full motion. It takes time but I think the fruits it will bear would be promising 🙂 let me know what you think. Cheers once again for the vid👍
@@wayneburgess5336 not a bad idea at all Wayne. I think teaching kids would definitely be the way to do it, and I love the idea of having partnerships with established AFL teams. The biggest hurdle is that there's no widely-available AFL available to watch in the US, so the kids wouldn't necessarily have the games to watch to help them develop their interest in the sport. The League would have to invest heavily in broadcasting the home-and-away season in an accessible way. Also, if they were serious, they could have a few games in the states each year (like they sometimes do in China) to build the international market.
Cool topic. The AFL has had games being broadcast overseas for years. There has been a slight decrease in that in recent years tho. And they have been bringing exhibition matches overseas for a while as well( battle of Britain comes to mind) and a USAFL league does exist and are going along in small strides. But I totally agree with @WayneBurgess a slight focus on a younger generation is needed for the game to really take flight overseas. Because those kids GROW UP. And with some patients those kids will do alot of the development process for us themselves. Besides it shouldnt cost too much to bring a whole bunch of balls and Guernsey's over there am I right
All the States have very successful football leagues until the late 1980s. WA (WAFL) SA (SANFL) Tasmania and Victoria (VFL that morphed into AFL), Ultimately, too many clubs drove themselves towards bankruptcy in the 1980s due to overspending on players. Then VFL got representatives from the other state leagues to join and pay a big licence fee. Of course VFL (at the time) then benefited also from increased TV royalties with more people watching the game in other states. So first you got Eagles (WA) and Brisbane Bears (from Qld). In early 80s South Melb Swans had relocated to Sydney. In the 90s you then had extra clubs from WA and SA. Then about 10 years ago extra teams from Sydney NSW and Qld. Tasmania is set to be the 19th team. As for a 20th team who knows. WA will end up having a third team. But maybe not for another 15 years.
I remember when they were taking suggestions from the public online I coincidentally suggested the colours of orange, grey and white and the name Wolves, but then they selected the dumb name Giants and I've been salty ever since
Re Hawthorn Roy Cazaly in a pre game speech told his players that they would "fight, scratch and fly like hawks" it was in the newspaper the Monday after the match and from there on they became the Hawks. Hawthorne spelt with the E is a type of flower/plant thats where the "mayblooms" nickname came from.
I don't think that's the reason considering they are an amateur club. PAFC have also used Pirates in their marketing towards kids, with Pirate mascots roaming around on game days.
@@pzaikis port are a federation club not amature, And they trademarked the name in 1996, I know because a friend of mine whos a life member of the soccer club got it trademarked
Pirates is the most lacklustre name of all time. Power was sort of smart. Its a neutral name and its needed because everyone in Adelaide knows that Port are the magpies. So why given them a name like penguins or pirates, it would confuse and not catch on anyway. I'm not from Adelaide.
@@pzaikis That wouldn't stop them from using the same nickname. By your logic, Glenelg, Richmond, West-Tiger NRL team or any other club can't be called the Tigers because one already exists
Strange bit of synchronicity going on with some of the football teams of England - Collingwood, formed in 1892, nicknamed the Magpies, wearing black and white striped jerseys. Same goes for Newcastle United - nicknamed the Magpies, who wear black and white striped jerseys and were formed in 1892. Funnily enough, they also have a big rivalry with a team that is nicknamed the Black Cats...
I still remember when the Gold Coast Suns came in. Some guy came in one day in primary school handing out these postcard things, I think it was a competition of some sort. I was like “ooo cool” and I’ve been a fan of AFL since. I’m a Hawthorn supporter 😅
A couple of those old nicknames travelled up to the Brisbane competition and were adopted by teams that wore the same jersies as their Melbourne counterparts - so Morningside became the Panthers as they wore St Kildas colours and Kedron the Redlegs, for the Melbourne colours they wore.
The Giants were actually inspired by the MLB team the San Francisco Giants who won the world series around the time of GWS' inception. You'll notice the colours are the same too.
@@latterature I read recently in a book on the history of the AFL that GWS were also named the Giants due to their image and idea being that of big and grand. They were going to be called something else (that I’ve since forgotten), but they wanted GWS To represent the grand heights they could reach.
To be honest orange and charcoal was a popular fashion combo then. Same as purple in the 90s and we saw the formation of Dockers, Glory soccer and Storm (thugby). In the 80s it was more about bright colours and yellows. Surprise surprise we saw Eagles and Brisbane start with a home jumper that was yellow.
Carlton were originally known as the Wanderers because they constantly changed home grounds. They were called the Butchers because they recruited many meat workers from Brunswick. They were called the Brewers for two reasons, firstly because of CUB, but secondly because many brewery workers played for them. Western Bulldogs need to return to the name Footscray. Collingwood were originally called Britannia. Essendon were also known as Fire and Iron. Hawthorn got their colors because of the Hawthorn brick works. Richmond were originally known as the Wasps. South Melbourne were called the Bloods, and blood stained angels. They became known as the Swans because they recruited many players from Western Australia.
Actually, AFL CEO Ross Oakly was going to allow Port to enter the AFL with the Port Adelaide Magpies moniker when they made their first attempt to enter in 1991. It was only when they entered on their second attempt that Collinwood (aka Eddie McGuire) had a sook
The eagles chose their name at the time to copy the Hawks. At the time Hawthorn was in nearly every Grand final and they wanted to be also a bird of Prey They obviously chose the eagles who resemble the Hawk as a Bird of Prey This is fact and was mentioned at the time they came into the AFL
You did miss a lot of Port's history as they did have a few different nicknames prior to using the Magpie. Cockledivers, Seaside Men, Seasiders, Magentas, Portonians & Ports. These were all used prior to 1900, which is also the last time any Port side finished bottom of the ladder.
@@latterature It also highlights that Port did use a lot of different Guernsey colours prior to 1900 due to various issues with dye availability in SA.
This may be wrong but I believe Hawthorn were also known as the Mayblooms because in the early days of their inception into the VFL they would generally start a season well, "blooming" in May, before struggling for the rest of the season. It did take Hawthorn until 1957 to make their first VFL finals appearance.
i like to think of the prison bars for port as the section of there current song "we'll never stop stop stop till were top top top!" as "we'll never stop stop stop running from the cops!"
They are apparently supposed to be wharf pylons on the Port "prison bars" jumper, which is why is looks different to all other vertical stripes guernseys.
fun fact about Adelaide, they were originally either going to be called the Adelaide Sharks, or the Adelaide Rams, with jumper colors being Blue, White, and Green, which admittedly would have been much nice, rather than having to rely on state colors with state identity, it would have been nice if Adelaide chose to create an identity of their own, as every other team has done.
Is Adelaide got a blue or black as the third colour? I heard they were going to be the Camry Ramrys at one time. AFL didn't want Rams. Dockers never should have dropped green from their colours which was unique. They dropped the anchor and go for the unimaginative purple and white. Not a lot of flexibility with merchandise there.
the early nicknames that emerged organically are almost always better than the top-down re-branded ones. also i wish more clubs had uniquely australian names that made sense culturally, eg freo wharfies rather than dockers (american term)
Remember you have the painter and dockers union in Australia. Everyone calls them the Dorkers anyway. Interestingly when they started there was speculation they'd be called Fremantle Doctors (you know after the breeze). So I think it was then very easy to go for Dockers. It was maritime. Sounded familiar as it sounds like Doctor anyway. Not too bad. Of course you're right about wharfies. I'm just glad they didn't go for pirates dolphins or the mariners, that sporting teams now seem obsessed by. When will we get names like Renewables!
Dockers was not copied from America. It's the original name of the wind that enabled sailing ships to dock at Fremantle. (Later got bastardised into Doctor)
@@peterpiper831 Docker is pretty catchy, as everyone was used to Fremantle Doctor, so it easily rolled off the tongue. The alternatives were Pirates, dolphins, mariners etc which would have been appalling. There are painters and dockers unions. Sharks would have been a better. Purple was a poor choice, but at least it was unique. It was a trendy colour with Storm and Glory choosing purple at the same time. Sadly Fremantle has turned its back on tradition and the Port heritage. No anchor, no original colours green and red, no acknowledgement of port heritage at games (its all heavy rock and ACDC). Container at game gone, so has anchor, mascot different, purple now a very dark navy purple. My advice. Embrace the Port of Fremantle. I know most of the fans have no connection to Fremantle, but regardless a club needs a heart and to recognise it home base, even if they are based 10km from the Port.
@@peterpiper831 It was never called "the docker" that was a lie made up by the two cunts who gave us the shitty team name. They were Victorian mongs who thought that everyone called wharf workers "dockers", people in WA have always used the term wharfies. Hatt and Kelly made up the "Freo Doctor used to be Docker" to justify their shitty name choice over the much more logical Freo Sharks, which made sense due to the East Freo Sharks playing in the WAFL, plus purple being a combo of red and blue (South Freo and East Freo). Sadly ruined by two morons obsessed with Victorianism.
come on man, the Port Adelaide Pirates would have been amazing!! how do you come in to the league with something as nebulous as "the power" when there's already an long suffering example of a club's long struggle with vague branding in the Blues?
It has just occurred to me why Carlton don't just adopt the "Blue Heeler" as their mascot? They can still keep calling themselves the "Blues" for short but they can actually have a decent mascot for the kids.
Nice video. You kept saying red instead of yellow in the Tigers part, but we know what you meant. I have been to Albert Park, the lake was full of white swans. South Melbourne merged with Albert Park at one time, look it up. Anyhow there are South Melbourne Swans and that's why the team was called that, because of the Swans in Albert Park Lake in the south of Melbourne and very close to South Melbourne the suburb. Also, SM FC and Albert Park FC merged. Go Pies! 😀
@@Seahorse20 The source of this is the internet and its source is Wikipedia. It is likely that the South Melbourne team that wore the Albert Park colours of Red and White would have used the white local swans as their mascot. Many logos featured white swans for Sth Melb and Syd Swans. White Swans not Black Swans, until the indigenous Sydney jumper had a West Aus Black Swan on it. In 1870 Albert Park played in the South Yarra Presentation Cup, the foremost competition of the era, and wore red and white striped guernseys. So striking was the uniform that the players were known as ‘those red and white beauties’. In 1878, the most powerful clubs in the colony formed the Victorian Football Association. Albert Park was among them, and in the first season they played 11 matches for one win, three losses and seven matches that were described as ‘unfinished’. One match against Melbourne attracted 3000 fans, but the rival South Melbourne club was on the rise. South Melbourne stepped up to the senior competition in 1879 and finished third behind Geelong and Carlton. With Albert Park on the wane, the two parties amalgamated in 1880, compromising on name and colours. South Melbourne kept its name but abandoned their blue and white strip in favour of the red and white of Albert Park. I understand that the internet says that in 1933 the South Melbourne Football Club officially adopted the Swans as their name. But the association between the mascot and the team is obvious if you have been there. I am sure that they told W.A. players that they were naming the team after their state bird. Why not tell them that? It was 1933, newspapers were the "internet" of the day. Think about it. Unless you are old enough to remember 1933. I was born in 1975. I don't think the man who made the video researched by finding people who remember the old names or what really happened. He would have looked online. Here is what "online" says- The team became known as the Swans in 1933 when the nickname was suggested by a Herald and Weekly Times artist. The nickname was inspired by the number of Western Australians in the team (the black swan being the state emblem of Western Australia), and was formally adopted by the club before the following season 1934. So according to this no one saw any swans in Albert Park before 1933, but people wanted to cheer for a bird that was from the other side of the continent. Or the newspaper wanted to make a story about Western Australian players. According to Wikipedia- Originally known as the "Bloods" in reference to the red colour used on players' guernseys, the Swan emblem was adopted in 1933 after a journalist at the time referred to them using the moniker following a large influx of Western Australian players. Wouldn't a newspaper say that they are the South Melbourne "Sandgropers" then? I doubt this wikipedia version unless I can see some proof. Wikipedia is not a source, it is a rough guide at best. I tried to find a Herald and Weekly Times article but the Herald Sun wanted me to subscribe and I will not give them even one dollar. If you are a subscriber to them please try and find the original article. If it even exists. Even if the newspaper called the team swans after the W.A. players the club officially called the team swans most likely because of the swans that swim in the lake there. Of course, the newspaper has the final say. Have a look at a Swans logo from the 1980s. White swan. W.A. players and the black swan may have been the initial inspiration but the team went with the local white swan as its mascot. th.bing.com/th?id=OSK.90a81c16b2846bf9e6cb62d74b14a2b4&w=124&h=168&c=7&o=6&pid=SANGAM th.bing.com/th?id=OIP.a8mrTYvZ0KAU1qj2rjrNTgAAAA&w=178&h=178&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&o=6&pid=3.1&rm=2 th.bing.com/th?id=OIP.a8mrTYvZ0KAU1qj2rjrNTgAAAA&w=178&h=178&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&o=6&pid=3.1&rm=2
Carlton were the 'butchers' because they used to play in small butcher hats, there's old photos of them in the hats. Carlton became the blue baggers during the war. After training the players used to bag up groceries for the needy at the local grocers. Some people mistakenly attributed the name to the little blue bags they used to put in the wash to make their away shorts whiter but that was a media based story that came later and is not the true origin of the name.
From the website blueseum.org (which has a few more nicknames I missed, so check them out if you're a Blues fan): "C'MON BLUEBAGGERS!....is an interesting one. Our best theory at this stage relates to an old laundry product used in all Australian households during and after WW2 (and internationally), called "Reckitts Blue" which came in a small white muslin bag. Reckitts Blue was put in the Copper or Washing Machine to whiten whites and brighten colours, and came in little blue bags."
The West Coast Eagles had a board member on the news once in the late 90’s who said the club had discussions about changing the club colours to light blue and dark blue and being called the Perth Pirates. I think the Eagles need to put “Perth” on their logo. Not change to Perth Eagles but put “Perth” on the logo and on the back of their jumper at the top, like Brisbane have FFC at the back top of this jumper.
You confirmed what I heard about how how the Swans got their name. NOT from the swans around the Lake Side Oval (which smartarse radio commentators from Sydney insisted) but from the high number of Sand Gropers playing for them at the time.
Thats total bullshit. They did get the name from swans at the lakeside oval. Footy was a total amateur sport until the 1970's. Men are not leaving WA to move across the country to play for free in the VFL, during the 1930's.
@@tubester4567 From Sydney FC's official website: "In 1933 the eminent journalist Hec de Lacy referred to the Club in The Sporting Globe somewhat facetiously as the Swans due to the number of West Australian players the Club had recruited - the Black Swan being the emblem of Western Australia. Cartoonist Alex Gurney drew a cartoon that drew further attention to de Lacy's words and thus the 'Swans' emblem and name were born." www.sydneyswans.com.au/club/history/heritage-list
@@peterkehoe1984 Peter, I provided a link to the website I got the information from. It says 'Syndey Swans' in the URL. Please check before commenting in future.
Down through the years the Bulldogs supporters have also referred to the club as the 'scrays (short for Footscray) and the Scraggers as in scragging the opposition.
The Adelaide Crows has different names that were never chosen and 2 of em are the Adelaide Lakers because they played at West Lakes and would make sense because it’s located in a lake area but was turned down because the LA Lakers from the NBA weren’t to happy for them to use the name. The second was the Adelaide Sharks and it was nearly the AFC Nickname because Adelaide’s Coast is known for sharks and also because they were located near the beach and was an ideal option to use but then the AFC settled on Crows because of the Croweaters as u said.
how's him throwing up the 666 sign constantly, then right at the point when he discusses Melbourne's name change to the 'demons' he throws up the horned devil sign!
the South Australian state team wore black and white in 1891 … they were the original magpies!. The Collingwood magpie emblem was inspired by the magpie on the SA coat of arms
maybe, but it was taken from South Australia…. the SA state team first played in black and white colours: “According to club records, a supporter had suggested the black and white colours after being impressed with the magpie on the South Australian coat of arms. Large numbers of magpies also frequented the banks of the Yarra near Victoria Park, and so this nickname was picked up with gusto.” the SA state team first wore black and white vertical stripes in 1891, Collingwood was founded 1 year later and their colour choice and logo was inspired by the SA state team
Yes, a deviation from 'Blue Baggers' that seems to have made a comeback in the last decade. According to fansite blueseum, it may refer to a post-WWII laundry product that came in a blue bag, but that's not confirmed.
@@latterature kiss my arse. They’ve been called a guernsey for more than 140 years. It doesn’t cost anything to get facts correct. Responding as you have is idiotic.
Living in Western Sydney I wouldn't say 'Rugby' is as important here as Aussie Rules is to Melbourne. Game attendance suggests that Rugby League everywhere in Sydney lags well behind AFL attendance in Melbourne.
I didn't mention any of the proposed relocations of established teams. North Melbourne alone had had about half a dozen. Possiby a good video idea though.
they should have been the gold coast kangaroos. one of my mates dropped the kangaroos when that happened. admittedly they alternated between Eagles (being perth) and Roos. But enough was enough. Tassie roos is another option that hasn't happened.
Interesting to hear the stories of WAFL and SANFL. East Fremantle was Old Easts and changed to Sharks in the 80s. West Perth was Cardinals and unfortunately changed to Falcons in the 80s (thanks Cometti). WA State team became the Black Swans. WA formerly known generally as Sandgropers. Not many sporting teams would want that nickname. I think Subi was the maroons before lions and Perth the redlegs before demons. East Perth Royals changed for a few years to Eagles in the 1950s. But associated with poor form. Their coach surname was Sparrow. The press labelled them one sparrow and seventeen galahs. Fremantle Dockers were strongly rumoured to be the Dockers before they started. Named after the famous Fremantle Doctor. Club decided too high risk and went for Dockers which is a catchy and fans are already familiar with saying Fremantle Doctor. Just remove the t sound. Easy.
@@frankmachin5438 West Perth had a great traditional name in Cardinals (Cardies) and even wore Cardinal red. Cometti wanted to make it more marketable and loved the Atlanta Falcons apparently. Annoying. My team East Perth Royals was a huge rival to West Perth and played in Perth Derbies, where crowds were up around 20k. I went to one game where 25k were packed in to Leederville. Your dad would have hated East Perth. West Perth were also known as the garlic munchers for their italian/greek/meditteranean supporters. More politely as market gardeners. Mind you, EP had their fair share too.
@@frankmachin5438 West Perth still play in their iconic red jumper with blue sash and shorts and striped socks. Such a good jumper I'm surprised that AFL teams don't have it or something similar as an alternative. West Perth went to Joondalup about 30 years ago. Left their heartland to go 25km up the freeway. In even a sadder move, Perth Oval (EP home ground) was turned over to soccer Glory and EP were forced to relocate to Leederville oval. Something that doesn't sit well for EP or WP fans. One last bit of trivia. WP won the grand final this year and the WAFL grand final was at Leederville Oval. So a nice touch for the Cardies.
When he talked about western bulldogs he said 1980 when he was meant to say 1880 and also Richmond is yellow and black not red and black not that it's really important thanks again for giving us some insight into our teams and there history cheers buds PS I'm just being possessed correcting you but I'm a little bit anal when it comes to facts silly I know 😉👍👌👏
West Coast chose the eagle as it's one of Australia's apex predators and there is a story that it is because the team had to fly so often to play in the eastern states. Additionally the eagle always faces east (right) on the jumpers to face (and prey) on the other teams in the league. Oh, and eagles are freakin' cool!
Makes sense to me!
Hey latterature I really enjoyed this video. Thanks heaps.👍 I was wondering if you could do a 'hypothetical' episode one day. The Mason Cox success story in recent years has resparked an old obsession of mine. Mainly of how to get our great game the traction it so deserves as a world class league that attracts the best athletes in the world and create a truly cosmopolitan competition. If we were to ever crack a major market of let's say the USA how would it be done?. How can the AFL even get a foothold in a nation that already has other huge sports? Our marketing campaigns and tv deals have yeilded very little traction over the decades. Iv developed a strategy and I'd like to hear your opinion. In one word 'KIDS'. What if each AFL club picks a town or region in the United States to set up base. That club introduces an Ozkick program to every school in the area from grade 1-4 or 5. And stick to that for 5 years. And then double down on that and bring it the junior high school aswell for another 5 years. As the decade draws to a close the AFL would have indoctrinated thousands of US kids to the fundamentals of our game. Those kids would teach other kids and so on and so on. And the love of the game will spread. But the real kicker is....that the AFL club that introduced Oz kick to that region would develop a kinship with that particular Club back home in Australia. Maybe even calling themselves idk the Austin Magpie's or the Salt lake City Tigers. You know what I mean. The point is we've created a talent pool. And it feeds directly to the AFL. And then flow in effect is in full motion. It takes time but I think the fruits it will bear would be promising 🙂 let me know what you think. Cheers once again for the vid👍
@@wayneburgess5336 not a bad idea at all Wayne. I think teaching kids would definitely be the way to do it, and I love the idea of having partnerships with established AFL teams. The biggest hurdle is that there's no widely-available AFL available to watch in the US, so the kids wouldn't necessarily have the games to watch to help them develop their interest in the sport. The League would have to invest heavily in broadcasting the home-and-away season in an accessible way. Also, if they were serious, they could have a few games in the states each year (like they sometimes do in China) to build the international market.
Cool topic. The AFL has had games being broadcast overseas for years. There has been a slight decrease in that in recent years tho. And they have been bringing exhibition matches overseas for a while as well( battle of Britain comes to mind) and a USAFL league does exist and are going along in small strides. But I totally agree with @WayneBurgess a slight focus on a younger generation is needed for the game to really take flight overseas. Because those kids GROW UP. And with some patients those kids will do alot of the development process for us themselves. Besides it shouldnt cost too much to bring a whole bunch of balls and Guernsey's over there am I right
Fun fact eagles were the first non Victorian team to win the premiership
This is really interesting. As an American footy fan, I’m fascinated by the history behind the game. Thanks for sharing!
If you're a yank then the Eagles are a good to team to follow, especially if from California. West Coast... American Eagle and all that.
All the States have very successful football leagues until the late 1980s. WA (WAFL) SA (SANFL) Tasmania and Victoria (VFL that morphed into AFL), Ultimately, too many clubs drove themselves towards bankruptcy in the 1980s due to overspending on players. Then VFL got representatives from the other state leagues to join and pay a big licence fee. Of course VFL (at the time) then benefited also from increased TV royalties with more people watching the game in other states. So first you got Eagles (WA) and Brisbane Bears (from Qld). In early 80s South Melb Swans had relocated to Sydney. In the 90s you then had extra clubs from WA and SA. Then about 10 years ago extra teams from Sydney NSW and Qld. Tasmania is set to be the 19th team. As for a 20th team who knows. WA will end up having a third team. But maybe not for another 15 years.
@@BDub2024Isn’t Tassie the TSL?
@@ajmullaaaaaaa Tasmanian new team. Not sure what TSL is.
@@BDub2024 The Tasmanian State League, their Footy league. Wasn’t part of the VFL.
they are the West Coast Eagles because of the Wedgetail Eagle found on the west coast of Australia.
Yes .....and everywhere else...In Tassie we see beautiful wedge tail eagles all over the place. .
Blood oath and what a magnificent bird of prey it is. Pre match an Eagle flies around the stadium in Perth with an Eagle handler. Unique.
What about the Brighton Bell-ends
I think "Warriors" and "Wolves" were also proposed names for GWS.
I remember when they were taking suggestions from the public online I coincidentally suggested the colours of orange, grey and white and the name Wolves, but then they selected the dumb name Giants and I've been salty ever since
And sharks
@@chrisc3797 I also nominated those colours, but I suggested the mascot be the Whales, for New South Wales. Thinking orcas more than humpbacks.
Re Hawthorn
Roy Cazaly in a pre game speech told his players that they would "fight, scratch and fly like hawks" it was in the newspaper the Monday after the match and from there on they became the Hawks.
Hawthorne spelt with the E is a type of flower/plant thats where the "mayblooms" nickname came from.
teams were obsessed with flowers after WW1.
Port couldn’t use pirates due to the fact there is a soccer club called the port pirates in port Adelaide
That’s true because my brother use to play for Port Adelaide pirates soccer team
I don't think that's the reason considering they are an amateur club. PAFC have also used Pirates in their marketing towards kids, with Pirate mascots roaming around on game days.
@@pzaikis port are a federation club not amature,
And they trademarked the name in 1996,
I know because a friend of mine whos a life member of the soccer club got it trademarked
Pirates is the most lacklustre name of all time. Power was sort of smart. Its a neutral name and its needed because everyone in Adelaide knows that Port are the magpies. So why given them a name like penguins or pirates, it would confuse and not catch on anyway. I'm not from Adelaide.
@@pzaikis That wouldn't stop them from using the same nickname.
By your logic, Glenelg, Richmond, West-Tiger NRL team or any other club can't be called the Tigers because one already exists
Strange bit of synchronicity going on with some of the football teams of England - Collingwood, formed in 1892, nicknamed the Magpies, wearing black and white striped jerseys. Same goes for Newcastle United - nicknamed the Magpies, who wear black and white striped jerseys and were formed in 1892.
Funnily enough, they also have a big rivalry with a team that is nicknamed the Black Cats...
I still remember when the Gold Coast Suns came in.
Some guy came in one day in primary school handing out these postcard things, I think it was a competition of some sort. I was like “ooo cool” and I’ve been a fan of AFL since. I’m a Hawthorn supporter 😅
That must have been so much work to collect.
Thanks for such a really interesting video.
Very glad you enjoyed it!
A couple of those old nicknames travelled up to the Brisbane competition and were adopted by teams that wore the same jersies as their Melbourne counterparts - so Morningside became the Panthers as they wore St Kildas colours and Kedron the Redlegs, for the Melbourne colours they wore.
I'm surprised by how good this video is
The Giants were actually inspired by the MLB team the San Francisco Giants who won the world series around the time of GWS' inception. You'll notice the colours are the same too.
Nice! Thanks for the info
@@latterature I read recently in a book on the history of the AFL that GWS were also named the Giants due to their image and idea being that of big and grand. They were going to be called something else (that I’ve since forgotten), but they wanted GWS To represent the grand heights they could reach.
Should be in a Sydney comp...no relation to Footy
To be honest orange and charcoal was a popular fashion combo then. Same as purple in the 90s and we saw the formation of Dockers, Glory soccer and Storm (thugby). In the 80s it was more about bright colours and yellows. Surprise surprise we saw Eagles and Brisbane start with a home jumper that was yellow.
Carlton were originally known as the Wanderers because they constantly changed home grounds. They were called the Butchers because they recruited many meat workers from Brunswick. They were called the Brewers for two reasons, firstly because of CUB, but secondly because many brewery workers played for them.
Western Bulldogs need to return to the name Footscray.
Collingwood were originally called Britannia.
Essendon were also known as Fire and Iron.
Hawthorn got their colors because of the Hawthorn brick works.
Richmond were originally known as the Wasps.
South Melbourne were called the Bloods, and blood stained angels. They became known as the Swans because they recruited many players from Western Australia.
South Melbourne were also once the Cecil Football club😂
Actually, AFL CEO Ross Oakly was going to allow Port to enter the AFL with the Port Adelaide Magpies moniker when they made their first attempt to enter in 1991. It was only when they entered on their second attempt that Collinwood (aka Eddie McGuire) had a sook
The eagles chose their name at the time to copy the Hawks.
At the time Hawthorn was in nearly every Grand final and they wanted to be also a bird of Prey
They obviously chose the eagles who resemble the Hawk as a Bird of Prey
This is fact and was mentioned at the time they came into the AFL
As a fitzroy supporter I gotta admit that the freo theme is a banger
Robbie Flower was a Demon Champion and captain in the early 80s. Thanks for confirming the actual origin of the Swans because of the WA Origins.
Someone might already mentioned this, but I always thought Geelong were known as the Pivotonians because of the Pivot fertiliser factory at Corio.
Haven't heard that! Interesting. Thank you.
FYI in 2008 for GWS the Sydney Celtics was a contender comprising Green and White livery to depict an Irish heritage influenced theme
Didn't know that, thank you!
You did miss a lot of Port's history as they did have a few different nicknames prior to using the Magpie.
Cockledivers, Seaside Men, Seasiders, Magentas, Portonians & Ports. These were all used prior to 1900, which is also the last time any Port side finished bottom of the ladder.
Didn't know this. Thanks!
@@latterature It also highlights that Port did use a lot of different Guernsey colours prior to 1900 due to various issues with dye availability in SA.
Until this year in the SANFL .. probably 😮
This may be wrong but I believe Hawthorn were also known as the Mayblooms because in the early days of their inception into the VFL they would generally start a season well, "blooming" in May, before struggling for the rest of the season. It did take Hawthorn until 1957 to make their first VFL finals appearance.
Interesting! Would be great if the teams researched these stories themselves so we could get an official history.
Also known as the mustard pots
Wrong
They were called the mayblooms because of the predominant flower in the area that bloomed in May each year. FACT.
i like to think of the prison bars for port as the section of there current song "we'll never stop stop stop till were top top top!" as "we'll never stop stop stop running from the cops!"
They are apparently supposed to be wharf pylons on the Port "prison bars" jumper, which is why is looks different to all other vertical stripes guernseys.
fun fact about Adelaide, they were originally either going to be called the Adelaide Sharks, or the Adelaide Rams, with jumper colors being Blue, White, and Green, which admittedly would have been much nice, rather than having to rely on state colors with state identity, it would have been nice if Adelaide chose to create an identity of their own, as every other team has done.
Didn't know this! Would love to see those jumper concepts
Is Adelaide got a blue or black as the third colour? I heard they were going to be the Camry Ramrys at one time. AFL didn't want Rams. Dockers never should have dropped green from their colours which was unique. They dropped the anchor and go for the unimaginative purple and white. Not a lot of flexibility with merchandise there.
Failed to say that Collingwood formed by a split at Fitzroy.
Makes sense basically the same suburb.
the early nicknames that emerged organically are almost always better than the top-down re-branded ones. also i wish more clubs had uniquely australian names that made sense culturally, eg freo wharfies rather than dockers (american term)
Freo shooda been "The Doctors"..
Remember you have the painter and dockers union in Australia. Everyone calls them the Dorkers anyway. Interestingly when they started there was speculation they'd be called Fremantle Doctors (you know after the breeze). So I think it was then very easy to go for Dockers. It was maritime. Sounded familiar as it sounds like Doctor anyway. Not too bad. Of course you're right about wharfies. I'm just glad they didn't go for pirates dolphins or the mariners, that sporting teams now seem obsessed by. When will we get names like Renewables!
Dockers was not copied from America.
It's the original name of the wind that enabled sailing ships to dock at Fremantle.
(Later got bastardised into Doctor)
@@peterpiper831 Docker is pretty catchy, as everyone was used to Fremantle Doctor, so it easily rolled off the tongue. The alternatives were Pirates, dolphins, mariners etc which would have been appalling. There are painters and dockers unions. Sharks would have been a better. Purple was a poor choice, but at least it was unique. It was a trendy colour with Storm and Glory choosing purple at the same time. Sadly Fremantle has turned its back on tradition and the Port heritage. No anchor, no original colours green and red, no acknowledgement of port heritage at games (its all heavy rock and ACDC). Container at game gone, so has anchor, mascot different, purple now a very dark navy purple. My advice. Embrace the Port of Fremantle. I know most of the fans have no connection to Fremantle, but regardless a club needs a heart and to recognise it home base, even if they are based 10km from the Port.
@@peterpiper831 It was never called "the docker" that was a lie made up by the two cunts who gave us the shitty team name. They were Victorian mongs who thought that everyone called wharf workers "dockers", people in WA have always used the term wharfies. Hatt and Kelly made up the "Freo Doctor used to be Docker" to justify their shitty name choice over the much more logical Freo Sharks, which made sense due to the East Freo Sharks playing in the WAFL, plus purple being a combo of red and blue (South Freo and East Freo). Sadly ruined by two morons obsessed with Victorianism.
come on man, the Port Adelaide Pirates would have been amazing!! how do you come in to the league with something as nebulous as "the power" when there's already an long suffering example of a club's long struggle with vague branding in the Blues?
It's called a Gernsey in AFL as apposed to jersey.
At least mentioned the fact port did not start wearing the black and white until 1912
It has just occurred to me why Carlton don't just adopt the "Blue Heeler" as their mascot? They can still keep calling themselves the "Blues" for short but they can actually have a decent mascot for the kids.
Great idea! Beats a bloke in a jumpsuit
Here in the US we have a hockey team called the blues and the mascot is just a blue bear
Or a blue-ringed octopus?
@Ben72 Not anymore mate. We will be right amongst it this year.
@@Hornheart22 well there is no version here so we can't name it that
I am a Carlton fan so obviously Carlton vs magpies beef but I gotta give respect, this is a great video
Thanks Kain, let's hope it's a blockbuster next time the teams clash
In those early days, ALWAYS Essendon AERODROME
Nice video. You kept saying red instead of yellow in the Tigers part, but we know what you meant. I have been to Albert Park, the lake was full of white swans. South Melbourne merged with Albert Park at one time, look it up. Anyhow there are South Melbourne Swans and that's why the team was called that, because of the Swans in Albert Park Lake in the south of Melbourne and very close to South Melbourne the suburb. Also, SM FC and Albert Park FC merged. Go Pies! 😀
Port Adelaide jumper as in the Magpie Jumper is not prison bars as it is falsely used, it actually represents the pylons of the Wharf.
Great video 🙌🏽
Thanks Jesse
I think Fremantles colours come from a mix of the two Fremantle sides- red & white, and blue & white. Not sure where the green comes from though.
The purple comes from South and East Freo (red and blue) but the green white and red is the Italian flag as Fremantle has a lot of Italian history
@@jordanklingsporn763 The shade they use now is weird. Why is the purple so dark now???
The red and green also represented the lights leading out/into the port to guide the ships
The South Melbourne Team played at Albert Park where the lake is full of Swans.
South Melbourne were called the Swans because many Western Australians played for them, when the name was proposed.
@@Seahorse20 The source of this is the internet and its source is Wikipedia.
It is likely that the South Melbourne team that wore the Albert Park colours of Red and White would have used the white local swans as their mascot. Many logos featured white swans for Sth Melb and Syd Swans. White Swans not Black Swans, until the indigenous Sydney jumper had a West Aus Black Swan on it.
In 1870 Albert Park played in the South Yarra Presentation Cup, the foremost competition of the era, and wore red and white striped guernseys. So striking was the uniform that the players were known as ‘those red and white beauties’.
In 1878, the most powerful clubs in the colony formed the Victorian Football Association. Albert Park was among them, and in the first season they played 11 matches for one win, three losses and seven matches that were described as ‘unfinished’. One match against Melbourne attracted 3000 fans, but the rival South Melbourne club was on the rise.
South Melbourne stepped up to the senior competition in 1879 and finished third behind Geelong and Carlton. With Albert Park on the wane, the two parties amalgamated in 1880, compromising on name and colours.
South Melbourne kept its name but abandoned their blue and white strip in favour of the red and white of Albert Park.
I understand that the internet says that in 1933 the South Melbourne Football Club officially adopted the Swans as their name. But the association between the mascot and the team is obvious if you have been there.
I am sure that they told W.A. players that they were naming the team after their state bird. Why not tell them that? It was 1933, newspapers were the "internet" of the day. Think about it. Unless you are old enough to remember 1933. I was born in 1975. I don't think the man who made the video researched by finding people who remember the old names or what really happened. He would have looked online.
Here is what "online" says-
The team became known as the Swans in 1933 when the nickname was suggested by a Herald and Weekly Times artist. The nickname was inspired by the number of Western Australians in the team (the black swan being the state emblem of Western Australia), and was formally adopted by the club before the following season 1934.
So according to this no one saw any swans in Albert Park before 1933, but people wanted to cheer for a bird that was from the other side of the continent. Or the newspaper wanted to make a story about Western Australian players.
According to Wikipedia-
Originally known as the "Bloods" in reference to the red colour used on players' guernseys, the Swan emblem was adopted in 1933 after a journalist at the time referred to them using the moniker following a large influx of Western Australian players.
Wouldn't a newspaper say that they are the South Melbourne "Sandgropers" then?
I doubt this wikipedia version unless I can see some proof. Wikipedia is not a source, it is a rough guide at best.
I tried to find a Herald and Weekly Times article but the Herald Sun wanted me to subscribe and I will not give them even one dollar.
If you are a subscriber to them please try and find the original article. If it even exists.
Even if the newspaper called the team swans after the W.A. players the club officially called the team swans most likely because of the swans that swim in the lake there. Of course, the newspaper has the final say.
Have a look at a Swans logo from the 1980s. White swan. W.A. players and the black swan may have been the initial inspiration but the team went with the local white swan as its mascot.
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Carlton were the 'butchers' because they used to play in small butcher hats, there's old photos of them in the hats.
Carlton became the blue baggers during the war. After training the players used to bag up groceries for the needy at the local grocers. Some people mistakenly attributed the name to the little blue bags they used to put in the wash to make their away shorts whiter but that was a media based story that came later and is not the true origin of the name.
The Freo theme song gave me a heart attack when it came on
Wasn't it collingwood that were the shinboners? I'm pretty sure I saw a magpies player saying that one time in a vid
They're mistaken! Only North have been the Shinboners (as far as I know, link me if you find any further info).
can't believe i thought that teams had the same name since the beginning
loved this👌🏻👍🏻
Coud someone tell me the deal between Carlton and The Baggers?
From the website blueseum.org (which has a few more nicknames I missed, so check them out if you're a Blues fan):
"C'MON BLUEBAGGERS!....is an interesting one. Our best theory at this stage relates to an old laundry product used in all Australian households during and after WW2 (and internationally), called "Reckitts Blue" which came in a small white muslin bag. Reckitts Blue was put in the Copper or Washing Machine to whiten whites and brighten colours, and came in little blue bags."
@@latterature thanks for the info. very helpful.
this is a great video man!
Thanks mate!
Great video! Learnt heaps 👍
Thanks!
Gold Coast, is 2011 btw not 2009 and same as Giants they are 2012 instead of 2009
13:18 Red and black you mean yellow and black
Yea he said it twice.
Typical numbnut pies supporter.
Hope his teeth fall out prematurely 🐯🐅
brett mcmahon bruh calm down with the messages.....I’m legit laughing too much 😂
@@brettmcmahon7263 i don’t think he meant it intentionally 😭😭 calm down
This was so good
Great video mate, you deserve way more views and subscribers, go pies
Port Adelaide went with Power as so no "living thing" replaced the Magpie.
What is a Gorailla?..
Wow epic comment bro
Bring back the Gorillas!! Maybe the Canberra Gorillas? Nah, they will HAVE to be the Canberra Parrots .. as in pollies 😮
Invincible Whites... that aged like milk.
Nothing about Melbourne being the Fuschias. Something about Ron Barassi or someone saying "play like Demons" and hence the name change
I mentioned both of these things.
Wasn't that "play like Demons" quote from Checker Hughes?
It was Checker Hughes from 30s or 40s
I am from the UK and support Footscray / Western bulldogs ( bulldogs being my favourite dogs ).
go Doggies
The West Coast Eagles had a board member on the news once in the late 90’s who said the club had discussions about changing the club colours to light blue and dark blue and being called the Perth Pirates. I think the Eagles need to put “Perth” on their logo. Not change to Perth Eagles but put “Perth” on the logo and on the back of their jumper at the top, like Brisbane have FFC at the back top of this jumper.
You confirmed what I heard about how how the Swans got their name. NOT from the swans around the Lake Side Oval (which smartarse radio commentators from Sydney insisted) but from the high number of Sand Gropers playing for them at the time.
Thats total bullshit. They did get the name from swans at the lakeside oval. Footy was a total amateur sport until the 1970's. Men are not leaving WA to move across the country to play for free in the VFL, during the 1930's.
@@tubester4567 Amateur? Yes but that is not to say that cushy jobs were made available by wealthy Club Presidents.
@@tubester4567
From Sydney FC's official website:
"In 1933 the eminent journalist Hec de Lacy referred to the Club in The Sporting Globe somewhat facetiously as the Swans due to the number of West Australian players the Club had recruited - the Black Swan being the emblem of Western Australia. Cartoonist Alex Gurney drew a cartoon that drew further attention to de Lacy's words and thus the 'Swans' emblem and name were born."
www.sydneyswans.com.au/club/history/heritage-list
@@latterature Sydney FC is a soccer team, mate. The four time A-League champions and the current reigning A-League champions to boot.
@@peterkehoe1984 Peter, I provided a link to the website I got the information from. It says 'Syndey Swans' in the URL. Please check before commenting in future.
My hometown had a team called imperials and they wore bulldog colours. Interesting
Great Video! deserves more views.
Good vid, keep it up mate
Just a little light reading on the side there
Awesome vid bud keep it up
Thanks Michael!
Why did dogs change from Footscray bulldogs to the western bulldogs?
Marketing, mostly. They wanted to appeal more broadly to all of the western suburbs, not just Footscray.
Down through the years the Bulldogs supporters have also referred to the club as the 'scrays (short for Footscray) and the Scraggers as in scragging the opposition.
@@latterature Geez, lucky there wasn't a team named "West Coast" from WA already in the comp! That would've been embarrassing!
That outro was so weird, are you ok bro?
GWS Giants & Suns two American names for an Australian football teams....nice work Gill....
The Adelaide Crows has different names that were never chosen and 2 of em are the Adelaide Lakers because they played at West Lakes and would make sense because it’s located in a lake area but was turned down because the LA Lakers from the NBA weren’t to happy for them to use the name. The second was the Adelaide Sharks and it was nearly the AFC Nickname because Adelaide’s Coast is known for sharks and also because they were located near the beach and was an ideal option to use but then the AFC settled on Crows because of the Croweaters as u said.
And because Port Adelaide thought of it
I heard Rams was the preference but disallowed by AFL. Second preference was Crows.
Re Geelong: There is still a basketball club there called Pivot City
Interesting! Didn't know that.
They didnt use the pirate nickname coz port adelaide soccer club who are named the pirates trademarked the name Port Adelaide pirates
Did you Collingwood and cartoon wear in red, white n blue in est years
I know Freeo sharks because south freeo sharks in wafl
how's him throwing up the 666 sign constantly, then right at the point when he discusses Melbourne's name change to the 'demons' he throws up the horned devil sign!
Lmao mate your friends are worried about you
Claims dockers be a better name than the sharks, *next shot drinks out of a shark mug
my docker mug was in the washing machine
Mate, if you ever drive in the outback over there in the west, you would be surprised how many Eagles and Falcons there are.
boi this was an amzing video
I miss Fitzroy and south Melbourne
Collingwood were the original magpies and the original black and white striped team, prior to 1902 port adelaide wore mageta and blue
the South Australian state team wore black and white in 1891 … they were the original magpies!. The Collingwood magpie emblem was inspired by the magpie on the SA coat of arms
The blue baggers is cartons
A "Pivotonian" is also commonly known as a Ross Geller
Source: ruclips.net/video/n67RYI_0sc0/видео.html
Port Adelaide Est.1997
Im proud to say Collingwoods never changed their jumper and nickname
maybe, but it was taken from South Australia…. the SA state team first played in black and white colours: “According to club records, a supporter had suggested the black and white colours after being impressed with the magpie on the South Australian coat of arms. Large numbers of magpies also frequented the banks of the Yarra near Victoria Park, and so this nickname was picked up with gusto.” the SA state team first wore black and white vertical stripes in 1891, Collingwood was founded 1 year later and their colour choice and logo was inspired by the SA state team
The red legs are what Norwood is in the SANFL
PErth redlegs became the demons.
I always think it’s stupid that a team in the east of Australia is called the WESTERN bulldogs when there’s 4 teams more western than them
True, considering they changed names in the 90s when there was already a national competition.
I’m pretty sure that the crows were originally going to be called the sharks but they decided crows were better
I've heard people call carlton the "baggers"
Yes, a deviation from 'Blue Baggers' that seems to have made a comeback in the last decade. According to fansite blueseum, it may refer to a post-WWII laundry product that came in a blue bag, but that's not confirmed.
Did you know port Adelaide ware in 1970 pink n blue
And bold bath hf
how are they one of the oldest in the world? aussie rules is only an australian sport?
Melbourne is one of the oldest continuous clubs across all football codes internationally, including AFL, rugby and soccer.
AFL jumpers are called guernsey not jersey.
Grow up
@@latterature kiss my arse. They’ve been called a guernsey for more than 140 years. It doesn’t cost anything to get facts correct.
Responding as you have is idiotic.
late here somehow - new sub.
pivotonians greatest name ever
Living in Western Sydney I wouldn't say 'Rugby' is as important here as Aussie Rules is to Melbourne. Game attendance suggests that Rugby League everywhere in Sydney lags well behind AFL attendance in Melbourne.
Interesting! Thank you for the correction.
He said for Richmond red and black
Amazing work.
Carlton were known as the butchers because butchers wore navy blue aprons, so I've heard.
I am surprised that you did not mention that the kangaroos were going to become the Gold Coast kangaroos
I didn't mention any of the proposed relocations of established teams. North Melbourne alone had had about half a dozen. Possiby a good video idea though.
they should have been the gold coast kangaroos. one of my mates dropped the kangaroos when that happened. admittedly they alternated between Eagles (being perth) and Roos. But enough was enough. Tassie roos is another option that hasn't happened.
Interesting to hear the stories of WAFL and SANFL. East Fremantle was Old Easts and changed to Sharks in the 80s. West Perth was Cardinals and unfortunately changed to Falcons in the 80s (thanks Cometti). WA State team became the Black Swans. WA formerly known generally as Sandgropers. Not many sporting teams would want that nickname. I think Subi was the maroons before lions and Perth the redlegs before demons. East Perth Royals changed for a few years to Eagles in the 1950s. But associated with poor form. Their coach surname was Sparrow. The press labelled them one sparrow and seventeen galahs.
Fremantle Dockers were strongly rumoured to be the Dockers before they started. Named after the famous Fremantle Doctor. Club decided too high risk and went for Dockers which is a catchy and fans are already familiar with saying Fremantle Doctor. Just remove the t sound. Easy.
Yeah my old man was grew up in Perth and always supported the ‘Cardys’ - hated the name Falcons and never used it. Refused.
@@frankmachin5438 West Perth had a great traditional name in Cardinals (Cardies) and even wore Cardinal red. Cometti wanted to make it more marketable and loved the Atlanta Falcons apparently. Annoying.
My team East Perth Royals was a huge rival to West Perth and played in Perth Derbies, where crowds were up around 20k. I went to one game where 25k were packed in to Leederville. Your dad would have hated East Perth.
West Perth were also known as the garlic munchers for their italian/greek/meditteranean supporters. More politely as market gardeners. Mind you, EP had their fair share too.
@@frankmachin5438 West Perth still play in their iconic red jumper with blue sash and shorts and striped socks. Such a good jumper I'm surprised that AFL teams don't have it or something similar as an alternative.
West Perth went to Joondalup about 30 years ago. Left their heartland to go 25km up the freeway. In even a sadder move, Perth Oval (EP home ground) was turned over to soccer Glory and EP were forced to relocate to Leederville oval. Something that doesn't sit well for EP or WP fans.
One last bit of trivia. WP won the grand final this year and the WAFL grand final was at Leederville Oval. So a nice touch for the Cardies.
The bloods are in the SANFL 15:04
Fitztroy Goraillas
They are still footsgray in the vfl
When he talked about western bulldogs he said 1980 when he was meant to say 1880 and also Richmond is yellow and black not red and black not that it's really important thanks again for giving us some insight into our teams and there history cheers buds PS I'm just being possessed correcting you but I'm a little bit anal when it comes to facts silly I know 😉👍👌👏
And he said Red and Black TWICE! lol
great video
Should've been the Port Adelaide convicts
Could of mentioned port did not start wearing the black and white until 1902 that was 20 years after Collingwood yet Collingwood stole it from them
Eagles are named after wedge tail eagle..