Would you make a guide like this for Graves? Format is very helpfull to learn strong and weak sides of a champion, loking forward to see more videos like this one :)
He's pretty awful to play against, can't really 1v1 early (unless yi uses cds before the fight) which means your invades are pretty bad early unless you have support or good tracking, he also outscales you and you can't really peel for backline if enemy has good engage. What I do is avoid him early (again unless you have support) gank since he has bad ganks pre 6 and underwhelming ganks post 6, and most importantly keep up objectives, pretty much every one of Viego's hard matchups will rely on outscaling the enemy through lanes or objectives and good team fighting, whereas you can play more independently and 1v9 on more balanced and easy matchups. I would call him a hard matchup because his win con is to avoid you and he can win the 1v1 most times which removes a lot of the carry potential that viego has unless you snowball early and shut him out, which is risky. Not as bad to play against as a good nidalee but I would recommend a perma ban if you can't/ don't like making the playstyle adjustment while facing him. The build I normally do against him is kraken>sundered>plated>bork (good for the 1v1) and you can pick the rest depending on the enemy team. Disclaimer: I am a hardstuck emerald viego main so follow this advice at your own risk, hope this helps though
im one tricking him at the moment and i find it difficult more in the later stages but he has the advantage earlier more into 6 and first item especially if you get a lead you wreck him if you play smart honestly,its more of mechanic and team match up and just game knowledge.At 6 i tend to look for him in jg before i go for krugs because of his high cd early if you catch him use a q or e on a monster you can easily kill him just watch for his q when you ult but pretty much you wanna play smart aggressive at 6 and keep him on his toes but make sure youre staying up on cs and objectives,thing is if he gets ahead its HARD especially if you dont get bot or mid prio for drags he can easily solo while youre clearing like its nothing and be at krugs to contest w team just without ult id say its pretty even just heavily team and player based
A guide in this format is reaaally informative btw. Like who you can invade inside of matchups. As a new player with lacking champ experience the little things like that are nice to have. I need my own gaming experience thats for sure but now i know just how i can try it on to gain for that experience. Might be much to ask but could you do a redo of kha's guide cause the information if not the layout has improved massively from your last guide. (Also helps i wanna try viego soon)
@Kaido_lol ngl I didn't see this comment so I was super pumped when I saw the updated guide lmao I saw that video before this comment my b. And thanks for the work put in kaido
im curious in his invade potential. I tend to giga farm and then skirmish for objectives and I feel like its been working really well but invading is how you hard destroy your enemy jg
invading at 6 is very good for some matchups I invade at 6 before i do krugs sometimes depending who im going against just because of his ult and sustain capability is nasty early in the right hands
@@Kaido_lol just played against the same udyr 1trick 2 games in a row, i think he kinda wins early game if you're 1v1 and if you possess him you're not gonna do much cuz u can't use his R
I'm a viego main and have been perma banning kindred for a few years now. I've always found this match up insufferable. Funny to see how you say its the worst matchup as well. xD
Would you make a guide like this for Graves? Format is very helpfull to learn strong and weak sides of a champion, loking forward to see more videos like this one :)
top-tier guide format, thank youuuu. opinion on reksai right now?
I think riot killed reksai ngl, champion became terrible after rework for jungle atleast
What about the master yi matchup?
He's pretty awful to play against, can't really 1v1 early (unless yi uses cds before the fight) which means your invades are pretty bad early unless you have support or good tracking, he also outscales you and you can't really peel for backline if enemy has good engage. What I do is avoid him early (again unless you have support) gank since he has bad ganks pre 6 and underwhelming ganks post 6, and most importantly keep up objectives, pretty much every one of Viego's hard matchups will rely on outscaling the enemy through lanes or objectives and good team fighting, whereas you can play more independently and 1v9 on more balanced and easy matchups. I would call him a hard matchup because his win con is to avoid you and he can win the 1v1 most times which removes a lot of the carry potential that viego has unless you snowball early and shut him out, which is risky. Not as bad to play against as a good nidalee but I would recommend a perma ban if you can't/ don't like making the playstyle adjustment while facing him.
The build I normally do against him is kraken>sundered>plated>bork (good for the 1v1) and you can pick the rest depending on the enemy team.
Disclaimer: I am a hardstuck emerald viego main so follow this advice at your own risk, hope this helps though
im one tricking him at the moment and i find it difficult more in the later stages but he has the advantage earlier more into 6 and first item especially if you get a lead you wreck him if you play smart honestly,its more of mechanic and team match up and just game knowledge.At 6 i tend to look for him in jg before i go for krugs because of his high cd early if you catch him use a q or e on a monster you can easily kill him just watch for his q when you ult but pretty much you wanna play smart aggressive at 6 and keep him on his toes but make sure youre staying up on cs and objectives,thing is if he gets ahead its HARD especially if you dont get bot or mid prio for drags he can easily solo while youre clearing like its nothing and be at krugs to contest w team just without ult id say its pretty even just heavily team and player based
Damn I was not expecting a reply thanks man
A guide in this format is reaaally informative btw. Like who you can invade inside of matchups. As a new player with lacking champ experience the little things like that are nice to have. I need my own gaming experience thats for sure but now i know just how i can try it on to gain for that experience. Might be much to ask but could you do a redo of kha's guide cause the information if not the layout has improved massively from your last guide. (Also helps i wanna try viego soon)
Yeah, I can definitely do an updated kha'zix guide this week. I'll keep that in mind for future videos. Thank you for the feedback.
@@Kaido_lol Yes i am looking for good kha guide and your quality is amazing!
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@Kaido_lol ngl I didn't see this comment so I was super pumped when I saw the updated guide lmao I saw that video before this comment my b. And thanks for the work put in kaido
im curious in his invade potential. I tend to giga farm and then skirmish for objectives and I feel like its been working really well but invading is how you hard destroy your enemy jg
It's fine to giga farm and play for neutrals, but if you can invade in the right games, what Viego can do to the enemy is pretty disgusting.
invading at 6 is very good for some matchups I invade at 6 before i do krugs sometimes depending who im going against just because of his ult and sustain capability is nasty early in the right hands
What anti heal do you recommend for Viego? How’s thornmail if a lot of them running bork?
Go mortal reminder
@@Kaido_lol how often would you recommend doing that? Almost never see anti heal in low elo and usually a lot of vamp
What about nocturne and Jax matchups? I really struggle against them.
You should out teamfight them, jax you need to respect in the early game and wait for number fights to win
@@Kaido_lol Thank you. Also love your content!
so is blade of the ruined king just never good on Viego? even against tankier champs?
Hard to really fit in your build, and if you want to kill tanker champs, just go LDR, no? The item is good on viego.
i know this is a very late question, but i've noticed as i play viego that W > AA > Q > AA is faster than Q and then W, does the damage change too?
you'll do more damage with the first rotation because of his passive
Where is nocturne in the tierlist to fight vs
What about jax with his E?
What about Udyr/Noc matchup?
Don't play vs them enough but you should just gap them in team fighting department
@@Kaido_lol just played against the same udyr 1trick 2 games in a row, i think he kinda wins early game if you're 1v1 and if you possess him you're not gonna do much cuz u can't use his R
I'm a viego main and have been perma banning kindred for a few years now. I've always found this match up insufferable. Funny to see how you say its the worst matchup as well. xD
I'm that kindred main in your games.
Nah kindred is easy to play against, the hard counters are rammus and amumu
where is yi and warwick matchups xd
I never play against them in high elo, but it should be simple, you out-teamfight them.
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if i see u again ill sub good video
Ok boss
seeing multiple things wrong 3 minutes into the video u def not a otp
Yea for sure lil bro XD, you need to OTP this champ to be good at him ROFL
“Múltiple things” but refuses to elaborate, ok lol