Spot on. I recently switched from a 3 wood to a 5 wood and getting much better results. 3 wood I might carry one out of five over 200 yards and now three to four out of five shots over 200 yards carry with my 5 wood.
I have a driver, 3w, 5w, 4H etc. I just barely used the 3w because I just couldn’t hit it from the deck. And when there was an opportunity for it I just screwed it up and thinking, why did I try it again for maybe that once of a life time perfect hit? So I pulled it out of the bag and sold it. Hitting the 5w now and going much better. Better 15 yards shorter and on the fairway then mis hit a 3w and a roll out 30 yards further down the fairway.
I used to higher the loft of my old callaway 3 wood to 16^, in order to use it easily also from the deck. The sim max has also a HL 3 wood (16.5^), that should work for both needs, carry distance and landing angle. I just ordered, based on my fitter’s suggestion...
My experience playing with many different types of golfers, that something like a 105mph+ Driver Swing Speed is where you will actually both use a 3wood and it will be an optimal club to carry in your 14-club bag. Even at a 100mph Driver swing speed, on shorter Pars 4s, most golfers at this swing speed will reach for their Driver - whereas if you are a 105+, you will consider 3wood/Driving iron/Hybrid - so if they aren't even hitting off the tee, it won't be optimal off the fairway. Carrying both 5&7 is then more optimal
Thank you very much for those thoughts and ideas. I have evolved through seeing the advantages recommended by so many of the higher degrees of loft in basically all the clubs. I am therefore thinking of going ahead with a 12 degree lofted TM driver, the Taylormade SIM2 Max 3HL (16.5 degree loft) and then eliminating the 5 Wood with a 7 Wood TM SIM2 Max at 21 degree loft (giving a bit of space between the two clubs).
Great timing on the video. I am shopping Sim 2 Max and was leaning towards the Max D at 16 degrees to sort of split the difference in loft between a 3 and a 4. I now will go compare the 5 as well and see where it takes me. Thanks.
Ditched the 3 wood years ago. My 5 wood carries about 225 which was the same as the 3 wood. Difference being that the 5 wood was straighter, higher & easier to hit more consistently. Most recreational golfers aren't good enough to hit the 3 wood off the deck but their ego convinces them otherwise.
Do you play a 3 wood too or just 5 wood? I find my 3 wood is close to my driver and can’t hit it consistently off of fairway at all I def need to look at a 5 wood and give it a chance
i agree...just got fitted and ordered the PING G425 10.5 Driver / 5 wood / 7 wood......and 26 and 34 degree hybrids...can't wait till they arrive....cheers from Canada
Interesting video. I carry Sim2 Max 5W and PXG 0211 7W and love both of them. I also have a Mavrik 3W that I just don’t really get it to perform for me. So you’re talking about lofts and how they’ve changed through the years and I started looking at some old clubs in the garage. (Some really old clubs) And I found a 70’s to 80’s 5 wood (Spalding Executive EZ) that’s 21 degrees, like my 7 wood. Hit it and just crushed it so easily. 😮 And an old persimmon 4 wood I found in my clutter… same happening, crushed it. 😵💫 Maybe I should just start playing again with some old clubs. 🤣
Lightbulb moment. Thank you Ali! I hit my Callaway BB Fusion 5 wood so well, but always hankering to include a 3 wood in my bag.I recognise all those skanky low right shots. Swing speed 85mph - Doah! Will stay in the fairway comfort zone and enjoy my golf more....
this video is right on. I carry a 16* Hogan 4 wood and a Sim2 max 18* 5 wood. Only 2 degrees apart but the Hogan is 20 yards longer off the tee and much easier to hit than a 3 wood. I will use the 5 wood anywhere, a very good 205-210 club. If I only could keep one in my bag, it would be the 5 wood.
Just picked up a sim 2 max 5 wood and I am eager to try it out. I needed a longish club that I could hit from tight lies in fairways. The bermuda grass in our Florida fairways goes dormant in winter months and many times my lie is on the ground..... literally. A 5 wood for longish fairway shots would be huge.
I recently added a 3-wood to my bag after learning to hit my 5 and 7 wood very well...love the 3W now as I can get driver like distance off the tee with it and 20 more yards with it than my 5 wood off the turf...
For me I game the Sim 2 Max 3 and 5 wood, they both are in my bag. The 5 wood replaced my 3 iron. But here in the Philippines I play the same 18 hole course 3 times a week, my bag may be set up different if I had the opportunity to play other places. Thanks for the content and your thoughts. How blessed we are to be able to play this wonderful game.
Loved the video it makes all the sense in the world. I carry a 3W and use it only off the tee. I hit my 5W consistently from the fairway and it's my best club off the tee.
Great video. I too gave up on the three wood and now use a tour edge four wood and swing much more confidently. I only take a three wood on short courses for tee shots.
Fantastic video. The shots you were hitting with the 3 wood were the ones I hit in my lesson last week with a 3 off the deck. I switch to a 5 and gained 210 carry! I felt I could hit the 5 like a 4 iron, de-lofting the club, but still gaining the height which results in more distance. Keep up the good work, Just subscribed!
Great video, thanks. Was I looking for. Question, I have sim 2 ti 3 wood, can i up the loft and cut the shaft to match like 5 wood or maybe like 4 wood ? Because I have sim 2 rescue #3 19 degree
I have a Sim3 and a 5hybrid, and always the 5 is the go to club for accuracy then distance off the fairway as well as a great chipper around the green👍
I tried a F9 Cobra at 16 degrees ( 3-4W) too. My swing speed ( 85-90 mph with Driver) just wasn't enough to hit it well off the deck. A F9 Cobra 5-6 wood was much better for me.
Uncanny. I was on the trackman 2 days ago and i was really struggling to get consistent strikes with a 3 wood. Try the 5 wood says the pro. I was much more consistent. It was a lot easier to hit. I ordered a g425 5 wood. It will hopefully be here in a few days.
Did a custom fit and got the Sim2 5 wood. Still having a hard time to hit it right, but that's probably because I don't have years of experience yet. Sometimes it goes beautiful and sometimes it sweeps down immediately after my swing. Anyway, great video. Happy to have the 5 in my bag!
Great video, describes me well. I hit an old 5 wood (Callaway RAZR) which Is one of my favourite clubs but I’d like more carry. Do you think a more modern 5 Wood (G425, ST-X etc) should give me that?
What club would you recommend for me between my 5.5 degree driver and my p790 udi 2 iron set at 15 degrees? I do also use a original one mini driver but I struggle to hit it off the fairway.
I have a 3W @15 degrees and 5 wood @19 degrees . I can shape the 3w off the tee better but I can Launch the 5w off the deck better. 5 woods should definitely be in more golfers bags they are such a good forgiving club.
You have one of the most effortless swings I've ever seen. How the hell do you hit your 5 Wood over 200 yards carry? I hit mine about 170 and I feel like I'm swinging out my boots 😅
Great vid Ali. I absolutely love my Tour Edge CBX 18* 5W. I hit one into a green last week that carried over 225 yards and actually spun back 2 feet!! (Soft green clearly 😜). 5W is great firing at greens on Par 5’s and has also become my fairway finder on shorter/tighter holes.
Would you use a 3 wood & 5 wood? I’m a 9 handicap & don’t have issues striking a 3 Wood off the deck. Would you say there’s a big enough gap to justify having both a 3 & 5 Ali? Cheers mate.,love your channel mate. Keep up the good work matey. 👏👏👏
I switched to a 5 wood and have a lot better luck with it. I have the sim2 max titanium. I accidentally changed out the shaft to a 3 wood shaft and don’t know why it works so well but picked up20 yards carry on the swap.
About to take TaylorMade M6 3 wood out of the bag and getting fitted for the new Ping G425 7 wood. I carry a TM 3/19 Rescue ( keeper ) which I can hit reasonably well but I’m looking forward to the higher flight and consistency of the Ping. I’ve just got to do my part.
Great video Ali,I've got a fitting soon,I'm in market for a 3 wood ,but I'm not comfortable hitting it,hoping my fitting will get me with a 4/5 wood,testing needed 🏌️⛳👍
That’s it you described my problem to perfection I’m booking myself a fitting with my head pro to compare my 3 wood to 5 woods. My 3 wood goes close to my driver when hit it off the tee so it’s a pointless club for me. I’ve got some dog legs at my course where the 5 wood would be perfect off the tee
Great video Ali.I have Sim2 3, 5 and 7 woods. Each club has a unique purpose and I am confident hitting all of them. I agree that many amateurs would be better served playing a 5 wood as opposed to a 3 wood.I also believe that many amateurs ignore the 7 wood which is a very easy club to hit and which is so beneficial in many instances. All the best. Cheers mate.
Great vid Ali, I'm possibly looking to change out my old and battered Diablo 3Wood this year, with a new Fairway Wood, so I will take your advice and ignore the number and just look for which one gives me the flight & distance that I need👍
I can hit most par 5s in 2, but 80% of time i lay up to my perfect 120 yardage. It is a wasted club for me. I even hit 4 iron 2 times and then chip on, borin golfer. Or smash driver 320 and then layup with 7 iron lol
For folks struggling with 3 and 5 wood off the tee, maybe learn to hit a 1/2 driver swing. Much bigger sweet spot. And just forget about hitting fairway wood off the deck if you don't have time to practice it regularly.
Good video. So many guys I know carry a 3w out of obligation it seems. I mean, they rarely ever pull it out, and when they do it usually doesn't go well. I guess people think longer shaft + lower loft = more distance, when in reality it only provides the potential for more distance, not a guarantee. To be fair, a lot of guys do, on occasion, hit a great shot with the 3w, and the desire to want to repeat that shot is pretty strong.
Great video Ali👍😊 I game G410 5 wood 17.5 love it, just like the driver not gamed a 3 wood for many years just as you have said in the video😊👍its a love hate thing 🤣🤣
A shot using 3 wood off the deck has to be an almost perfect lie whereas with 5 wood the lie could be marginal. I carry both a 3 and a 5 wood. I use 3 wood mostly off the tee when the driver is not a good option and 5 wood is used off the tee on a long par 3. Off the deck, I would not approach a green with my 3 wood but I would use the 5 wood instead. If it's a par 5 on the 2nd shot, If I can't reach the green, the lie is good and the fairway is wide I might use a 3 wood to get as close as possible.
Spot on. I recently switched from a 3 wood to a 5 wood and getting much better results. 3 wood I might carry one out of five over 200 yards and now three to four out of five shots over 200 yards carry with my 5 wood.
I have a driver, 3w, 5w, 4H etc.
I just barely used the 3w because I just couldn’t hit it from the deck. And when there was an opportunity for it I just screwed it up and thinking, why did I try it again for maybe that once of a life time perfect hit? So I pulled it out of the bag and sold it. Hitting the 5w now and going much better. Better 15 yards shorter and on the fairway then mis hit a 3w and a roll out 30 yards further down the fairway.
I used to higher the loft of my old callaway 3 wood to 16^, in order to use it easily also from the deck.
The sim max has also a HL 3 wood (16.5^), that should work for both needs, carry distance and landing angle.
I just ordered, based on my fitter’s suggestion...
My experience playing with many different types of golfers, that something like a 105mph+ Driver Swing Speed is where you will actually both use a 3wood and it will be an optimal club to carry in your 14-club bag. Even at a 100mph Driver swing speed, on shorter Pars 4s, most golfers at this swing speed will reach for their Driver - whereas if you are a 105+, you will consider 3wood/Driving iron/Hybrid - so if they aren't even hitting off the tee, it won't be optimal off the fairway. Carrying both 5&7 is then more optimal
Thank you very much for those thoughts and ideas. I have evolved through seeing the advantages recommended by so many of the higher degrees of loft in basically all the clubs. I am therefore thinking of going ahead with a 12 degree lofted TM driver, the Taylormade SIM2 Max 3HL (16.5 degree loft) and then eliminating the 5 Wood with a 7 Wood TM SIM2 Max at 21 degree loft (giving a bit of space between the two clubs).
Such a good video, it explains why my 3 wood is left in the garage. I'm going for a fitting next week will be looking at 5 and 7 woods/ rescues
I just made this change to 5 wood and took 3 wood out of my bag. Everything you said is true and has helped me.
You have completely described my challenges with 3 wood. Loft is your friend for low speed players.
Great timing on the video. I am shopping Sim 2 Max and was leaning towards the Max D at 16 degrees to sort of split the difference in loft between a 3 and a 4. I now will go compare the 5 as well and see where it takes me. Thanks.
Very--very--"VERY" helpful and informative. Thanks for taking the time to make the video!
Ditched the 3 wood years ago. My 5 wood carries about 225 which was the same as the 3 wood. Difference being that the 5 wood was straighter, higher & easier to hit more consistently. Most recreational golfers aren't good enough to hit the 3 wood off the deck but their ego convinces them otherwise.
Do you think hit and feel similar? I have a sim max 2 5 wood and absolutely love how consistent I am with it. I want to pick their 3 wood.
I play the sim ti 5 wood and it's an absolute beast. I feel like I can't miss the fairway. Stock ventus blue is great too
Do you play a 3 wood too or just 5 wood? I find my 3 wood is close to my driver and can’t hit it consistently off of fairway at all I def need to look at a 5 wood and give it a chance
i agree...just got fitted and ordered the PING G425 10.5 Driver / 5 wood / 7 wood......and 26 and 34 degree hybrids...can't wait till they arrive....cheers from Canada
I have been struggling with my 3 wood off the deck. This video makes total sense I will give the 5 wood a try 💯
Interesting video. I carry Sim2 Max 5W and PXG 0211 7W and love both of them. I also have a Mavrik 3W that I just don’t really get it to perform for me. So you’re talking about lofts and how they’ve changed through the years and I started looking at some old clubs in the garage. (Some really old clubs) And I found a 70’s to 80’s 5 wood (Spalding Executive EZ) that’s 21 degrees, like my 7 wood. Hit it and just crushed it so easily. 😮 And an old persimmon 4 wood I found in my clutter… same happening, crushed it. 😵💫 Maybe I should just start playing again with some old clubs. 🤣
Lightbulb moment. Thank you Ali! I hit my Callaway BB Fusion 5 wood so well, but always hankering to include a 3 wood in my bag.I recognise all those skanky low right shots. Swing speed 85mph - Doah! Will stay in the fairway comfort zone and enjoy my golf more....
A video that a lot of golfers need to watch! 👏🏼👏🏼
this video is right on. I carry a 16* Hogan 4 wood and a Sim2 max 18* 5 wood. Only 2 degrees apart but the Hogan is 20 yards longer off the tee and much easier to hit than a 3 wood. I will use the 5 wood anywhere, a very good 205-210 club. If I only could keep one in my bag, it would be the 5 wood.
What club speed are you hitting at
Just picked up a sim 2 max 5 wood and I am eager to try it out. I needed a longish club that I could hit from tight lies in fairways. The bermuda grass in our Florida fairways goes dormant in winter months and many times my lie is on the ground..... literally. A 5 wood for longish fairway shots would be huge.
I recently added a 3-wood to my bag after learning to hit my 5 and 7 wood very well...love the 3W now as I can get driver like distance off the tee with it and 20 more yards with it than my 5 wood off the turf...
Distances not #'s on the clubs, good advise, thanks
For me I game the Sim 2 Max 3 and 5 wood, they both are in my bag. The 5 wood replaced my 3 iron. But here in the Philippines I play the same 18 hole course 3 times a week, my bag may be set up different if I had the opportunity to play other places. Thanks for the content and your thoughts. How blessed we are to be able to play this wonderful game.
Loved the video it makes all the sense in the world. I carry a 3W and use it only off the tee. I hit my 5W consistently from the fairway and it's my best club off the tee.
Bought the 5 wood today and binned the Ping G410 3 hybrid. It’s like a dream club
Great video. I too gave up on the three wood and now use a tour edge four wood and swing much more confidently. I only take a three wood on short courses for tee shots.
Fantastic video. The shots you were hitting with the 3 wood were the ones I hit in my lesson last week with a 3 off the deck. I switch to a 5 and gained 210 carry! I felt I could hit the 5 like a 4 iron, de-lofting the club, but still gaining the height which results in more distance. Keep up the good work, Just subscribed!
I learned how to hit fairway woods off the little tee. When I got comfortable, I moved to the turf.
Great video, thanks. Was I looking for. Question, I have sim 2 ti 3 wood, can i up the loft and cut the shaft to match like 5 wood or maybe like 4 wood ? Because I have sim 2 rescue #3 19 degree
Think I am going to give a 5 and 7 wood a try and dump the 3 wood for some of the reasons you have shown.
I have a Sim3 and a 5hybrid, and always the 5 is the go to club for accuracy then distance off the fairway as well as a great chipper around the green👍
Do you think hit and feel similar? I have a sim max 2 5 wood and absolutely love how consistent I am with it. I want to pick their 3 wood.
Thats why I've got a 16.5° TS2 in play
I tried a F9 Cobra at 16 degrees ( 3-4W) too. My swing speed ( 85-90 mph with Driver) just wasn't enough to hit it well off the deck. A F9 Cobra 5-6 wood was much better for me.
This is me. I went in for a 3 wood fitted and came out with a 5 wood purchased. It's so true for mid and high handicap.
Uncanny. I was on the trackman 2 days ago and i was really struggling to get consistent strikes with a 3 wood. Try the 5 wood says the pro. I was much more consistent. It was a lot easier to hit. I ordered a g425 5 wood. It will hopefully be here in a few days.
5 simmax2 wood or 3 ping g 425 hybrid?
Did a custom fit and got the Sim2 5 wood. Still having a hard time to hit it right, but that's probably because I don't have years of experience yet. Sometimes it goes beautiful and sometimes it sweeps down immediately after my swing. Anyway, great video. Happy to have the 5 in my bag!
I have 3 wood and 4 hybrid. Will order 5 wood now as it is a no-brainer. What about 7 wood vis-a-vis 4 hybrid. A little confused now.
what about High Loft 3 woods and 5 woods?
Great video, describes me well. I hit an old 5 wood (Callaway RAZR) which Is one of my favourite clubs but I’d like more carry. Do you think a more modern 5 Wood (G425, ST-X etc) should give me that?
What club would you recommend for me between my 5.5 degree driver and my p790 udi 2 iron set at 15 degrees? I do also use a original one mini driver but I struggle to hit it off the fairway.
You can get 12.5°/13° fairway wood might fill the gap
Depends how far you hit driver and P790
@@AliTaylorGolf driver 320-330
2 iron 250-260.
@@neiltaylor1765 I think you are right I tried my old long tom 2 wood and was hitting it around the 280-290 mark. It is 12 degrees I believe.
Add loft to 3w or deloft 5w If i aim at 17 degree loft? I fear that the face on the 5w would be too open.
superb video. works wonders for me since I started the 16.5 TS2 in play. Thanks.
A lot of confidence to actually swing hard but still in control.. works for me...if u get a decent finish position usually means a decent shot
Great video. Thanks for the explanation
I have a 3W @15 degrees and 5 wood @19 degrees . I can shape the 3w off the tee better but I can Launch the 5w off the deck better. 5 woods should definitely be in more golfers bags they are such a good forgiving club.
Seems to me a lot of golfers have driver and 5 wood.set ups. The new 5 wood replaced my old 4 wood.
You have one of the most effortless swings I've ever seen. How the hell do you hit your 5 Wood over 200 yards carry? I hit mine about 170 and I feel like I'm swinging out my boots 😅
Great vid Ali. I absolutely love my Tour Edge CBX 18* 5W. I hit one into a green last week that carried over 225 yards and actually spun back 2 feet!! (Soft green clearly 😜). 5W is great firing at greens on Par 5’s and has also become my fairway finder on shorter/tighter holes.
Would you use a 3 wood & 5 wood? I’m a 9 handicap & don’t have issues striking a 3 Wood off the deck. Would you say there’s a big enough gap to justify having both a 3 & 5 Ali? Cheers mate.,love your channel mate. Keep up the good work matey. 👏👏👏
Not for me, hence 3 wood and 7 wood but my lofts are 14.5 and 20.5
No ball speed or club speed?
I switched to a 5 wood and have a lot better luck with it. I have the sim2 max titanium. I accidentally changed out the shaft to a 3 wood shaft and don’t know why it works so well but picked up20 yards carry on the swap.
I went to 5 wood and took 3 wood out of bag. I hit it great most of the time. Also carry a 7 wood and 9 wood.
Yes. This is me in a nut shell.. and I'm in the process of finding a 4 wood or 5 wood for my bag
About to take TaylorMade M6 3 wood out of the bag and getting fitted for the new Ping G425 7 wood. I carry a TM 3/19 Rescue ( keeper ) which I can hit reasonably well but I’m looking forward to the higher flight and consistency of the Ping. I’ve just got to do my part.
Great video Ali,I've got a fitting soon,I'm in market for a 3 wood ,but I'm not comfortable hitting it,hoping my fitting will get me with a 4/5 wood,testing needed 🏌️⛳👍
That’s it you described my problem to perfection I’m booking myself a fitting with my head pro to compare my 3 wood to 5 woods. My 3 wood goes close to my driver when hit it off the tee so it’s a pointless club for me. I’ve got some dog legs at my course where the 5 wood would be perfect off the tee
Great video Ali.I have Sim2 3, 5 and 7 woods. Each club has a unique purpose and I am confident hitting all of them. I agree that many amateurs would be better served playing a 5 wood as opposed to a 3 wood.I also believe that many amateurs ignore the 7 wood which is a very easy club to hit and which is so beneficial in many instances. All the best. Cheers mate.
Thanks
I carry the Sim2 Max driver, the Sim2 Max 5W and a Ping G400 7W.
Lovely explanation
Thank you for amazing video
Great video!
Great vid Ali, I'm possibly looking to change out my old and battered Diablo 3Wood this year, with a new Fairway Wood, so I will take your advice and ignore the number and just look for which one gives me the flight & distance that I need👍
if you're a player who can't reach par 5's in two, you're about 95 percent towards the "you don't need a 3-wood group" already.
I can hit most par 5s in 2, but 80% of time i lay up to my perfect 120 yardage. It is a wasted club for me. I even hit 4 iron 2 times and then chip on, borin golfer. Or smash driver 320 and then layup with 7 iron lol
For folks struggling with 3 and 5 wood off the tee, maybe learn to hit a 1/2 driver swing. Much bigger sweet spot. And just forget about hitting fairway wood off the deck if you don't have time to practice it regularly.
Good video. So many guys I know carry a 3w out of obligation it seems. I mean, they rarely ever pull it out, and when they do it usually doesn't go well. I guess people think longer shaft + lower loft = more distance, when in reality it only provides the potential for more distance, not a guarantee. To be fair, a lot of guys do, on occasion, hit a great shot with the 3w, and the desire to want to repeat that shot is pretty strong.
I have a rbz hl 3 wood, that's a 17° and I currently hit it better and further then my driver 😅
Great video Ali👍😊 I game G410 5 wood 17.5 love it, just like the driver not gamed a 3 wood for many years just as you have said in the video😊👍its a love hate thing 🤣🤣
you just described me 3 wood off the fairway no good today but rescue good going to get rid of my 3 wood and eventually get a 5 wood
I carry 3 wood for tee shots and 5 wood for off the deck for this exact reason
That’s perfect because you understand what works for you
I have always found my 5 wood so much more useful than my 3 wood. Hence 3 wood stays at home!
A shot using 3 wood off the deck has to be an almost perfect lie whereas with 5 wood the lie could be marginal. I carry both a 3 and a 5 wood. I use 3 wood mostly off the tee when the driver is not a good option and 5 wood is used off the tee on a long par 3. Off the deck, I would not approach a green with my 3 wood but I would use the 5 wood instead. If it's a par 5 on the 2nd shot, If I can't reach the green, the lie is good and the fairway is wide I might use a 3 wood to get as close as possible.
took my 3 wood out and replaced with a 5 wood. never looking back
What about 7 woods?
They are very good
I have both. I put one in the bag according to what course I am playing. So I have a choice.
Do you think hit and feel similar? I have a sim max 2 5 wood and absolutely love how consistent I am with it. I want to pick their 3 wood.
@@ktmracing3135 I would say yes, it is similar.
I took 3 wood out of the bag 2 months ago my 5 wood goes 180-190 meters with my swing speed
Any more than that its a layup
Lets me play a extra wedge
That sounds like me and I don't use my 3 wood, so going to try the 5 I think 🙂
Sounds good 👍
@@AliTaylorGolf just got a sim 5 wood.better for me because I am only 14 and I have a lower swing speed so I can get the ball up on the air easily
3 is best club in bag
I’m buying the 5 and 7 wood, 5 wood these days is like the old 3 wood and 7 wood is an old 5 wood. Why buy a 3 wood?
Exactly if that's best for you.
If you swing at that speed a 5 woods pointless as well
Yes Sir & yes sir.....no to watch for solutions :)
First! I have a three, five, and seven.
Nice
Who the fuck hits a 7 iron 130 I hit mine 180+ then some rollout 130 is a hard gap or a light pw
Just get a 16.5 degree
You’ll be happy to be out of that closet tomorrow.