Planet of the Humans: The Leap to the Top
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- For all that Darwin contributed to our understanding of the biological world, he was haunted by one vexing question: How does the incremental process of evolution suddenly produce, say, humans-animals who walk upright, communicate through language, and possess the brainpower to travel to the moon? In this program, some of the world's leading thinkers in anthropology, linguistics, biology, and philosophy tackle this conundrum.
This program is part of the Big Ideas Series, made possible with support from the John Templeton Foundation.
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Original Program Date: May 29, 2015
Host: Brian Lehrer
PARTICIPANTS: Lee Berger, Paul Bingham, Dean Falk, Steven Pinker
This program opened with an excerpt from the hit show “Robot,” from choreographer/filmmaker Blanca Li.
Blanca Li and her dancing robot 00:00
Brian Lehrer Introduction. 04:13
Participant Introductions 06:38
Dean Falk and Baby the Trend Setter 08:18
Steven Pinker and The Cognitive Niche 18:36
Paul bingham and The Social Coercion Theory 29:54
Lee Berger and human uniqueness and the biological origins of humans 46:44
Is the discussion of Human uniqueness important? 58:34
Why did the development of written language cause humans to present the natural order of the species as patriarchal? 01:05:41
Humans are the most peaceful mammals on the planet? 01:08:24
At what point does your accumulation of knowledge hit the barrier on ones cognitive abilities? 01:12:39
Is there a practical application for all of this? 01:14:09 
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Ok, I'll start on an English translation ASAP
Is it odd that I found the human dancing with the robot incredibly emotionally moving? Bravo WSF and Bravo humanity, no matter how you choose to define yourself.
+kleinbottled79
As an example of the human experience the robot was 'emotionally moving', even attributes a spiritual significance to our existence.
I was just thinking how awful it was. I'm serious, I can't stand it when they take an interesting subject and clutter it up with this garbage. We get enough of that junk on the National Geographic Channel.
Yes.
"History is the lie made up by the winners." Brilliant.
Being sarcastic? This is a very old saying....
(actually, I came here whilst looking for Michael Moores' latest....)
@@TonyQKing Me too. Then stayed to watch. No sarcasm. Being old and well-worn doesn't change its poignancy. I just liked the precise wording.
That's why communism is good and fascism bad, when in reality fascism is better on defending worker class.
One of the best discussions I've heard in my life of 62 years. Thank you.
+David Roberts I was going to post the exact same comment (except for my age!).
btw i said this before she said they jiggle them
Pinker is at a deeper level of understanding than all others on stage. It must be frustrating for him that some of his points got dismissed because they couldn't process at the same level.
I've felt that way all my life. And I'm not smart. I don't consider myself smart.
Remember Jay Leno and his my brain is bigger than your punny brains! skit?
@TreeborgCNC no way. Paul Bingham has the correct(and only) Theory on that stage.
I love World Science Festival talks. They nearly always make me think deeply. They are very often of world standard. This is one of them. Really worth watching!! :-) Hugh
Amazing panel and discussion, I love the fact I can listen to the thoughts and ideas of the geniuses of our time
Here I am thinking about what makes us unique as humans. And then a thought came to my mind: Music! Why? Because it's something so complex. Humans can make instruments , create music , and in certain way , they are creating a language , a way to pass some kind of message , feelings , history. And not only that. Music is something that can always be better at , but you'll never (as a musician) reach a level where you don't need to evolve. New kinds of beats are always being created , new techniques and so on. Animals can pass information to their offsprings related to the adaptation of the environment for surviving purposes. But humans can do that same thing much more faster through written and spoken language mostly of course in order to survive but not just for that. Music does that and much more. It also makes you better as an individual. And music is something that does that in a same but fascinating different way. I really love this channel! Keep those great programs coming! Cheers! Sorry about the bad english!
+Gabriel Sepúlveda Birds sing,its music...sorry, you need to rethink all.
Yes, they do sing. But the animal who can classify those sound patterns and say "that's music" are humans. Yes , birds can sing , but not make music. Thanks for the comment!
The speakers names seem important to include in the description along with the robot choreographer, no disrespect. Thank you for the video, the discussion, and the robot dance.
+Melchior Magni thank you. I must not have been able to see them on my other device.
At 1:08 Lee says we are the most peaceful of animals, and when people are working hard to save a beached white shark I must agree.
General Wesley Clark "We are going to take out 7 countries in five years! (included Iraq , Syria, Libya Iran
Excellent panel as usual. Thank you WSF.
Competition and natural selection helped the brain to evolve, along with 'fine tuning', that guarantees destiny, purpose, goal, etc.
Self-organizing properties of matter, enables evolution to take place, and define destiny.
Spiders have shown cooperation too. Which is scary. Maybe spiders will be the next intelligent life on the planet!
I love the Internet. Thank you for sharing this knowledge!
Good one!
I felt gifted in being able to watch this panel, keep up the good fight!
Best channel on RUclips. ..Thank you.
Thank you for hosting and posting this amazing talk. I learned a lot!
"From the arctic to the tropics" So we in the Southern Hemisphere aren't human?
@Jimmy Mac Great, that makes us super human, now kneel before me lesser mortal.
Great discussion - very interesting! And THANK YOU poster for including such a fine example of how all video descriptions of such talks should look: synopsis, participants, time breakdown, and original event date! 10 out of 10, much appreciated.
Good Ol' Isaac would smile...
Viewing this in April 2020, in the midst of a global pandemic and looming climate change, the last two comments by Steven Pinker and Dean Falk ring truer than ever. Thank you.
Great Talk. Thank you for these great series of lectures
i had sensory overload watching this. it just start going above my head. overall, great discussion. i might have to watch this again
+TheReccafire I'll need to re-watch this at least twice to register everything that was said - let alone process it.
Humpty Dumpty climbed to the top of the wall ... (wait for it) ... SPLAT ... Damn that's funny.
Rocks to dancing robots. How about rocks to the web telescope in the large hadron collider?
4:15 to skip the obnoxious opener
Awesome.......
Watched all of it 1:17:21
Eventually in time (if we exist long enough) there will be AI beings flying thru space who have all but 0 connection to the human beings who designed it. Sad when you think about it.
Contemporary humans can be defined as the trading animal.
The only difference we human has in contrast to other animals, is the role of 'fine tuner' that we play, alongside the 'universal spirit', the prime ordeal fine tuner, that defined the prime ordeal destiny.
Great talk
+Insert your name here 47:35 YES it is easy to define ''Human''in behavioral ways (which correlate
to biological and chemical((Genetic))forms.Humans ,in large
populations,are always born with five fingered hands,and opposable
thumbs..period...IF it's possible,to find a average
sized''human''population,without ever having children born with hands or
fingers,THEN the scientists would also find that same human population with
different,or developing differences in their bio chemistry,mental-brain
organ developments,and,most obviously..BEHAVIOUR...
I tried to find jay lenos my brain is bigger than yours show. I can't find it, but I remember seeing it many years ago.
Lee Berger and Paul bingham 讚 !
Paul Bingham 💪🏿
I really like the 2nd speakers lines of thought.
Humanity is awesome, but sometimes not so much.
That was so awesome!!
That was frustrating
The linguist is right even tho he wasn't sure about ants.. they're all related, Cerapachy birori (also called 'clonal raider ants') even reproduce by cloning, so they have identical DNA.
. wow thanks '
Hahahahaha!!! I was clapping like Peter Griffin at the beginning of that!
That was a good discussion very interesting!
Andy Wells it was mate, some twat in the comments sections started giving it the old 'but how do you know, you weren't there' which made my piss go orange haha. Other than that it was great, I love Steven pinkers hair as well haha, it's defo had rollers in. :)
LoL! :)
This discussion emphasizes external conflict in the evolution of our species as opposed to emphasizing internal conflict. I could not believe the molecular biologist emphsized external conflict versus internal conflict. So, what is internal conflict and how does it facilitate change and evolution? And then how do we extend the molecular biology of internal conflict to the external BioPsychoSocialcognitiveeconomicspiritualculturalbehaviorialenvironmental(including conflict)EPIGENETICmotivational....stressors that fuel the fires (literally and figuratively) of iDEFINITIVE molecular biology change in the species so that evolution does happen in the human species to withstand and overcome all sorts of stressors.
What is the internal conflict of our time that is causing all manners of external stress? What are the consequences of not overcoming these stressors if we are not wise enough to figure out how to fignt the internal battle NOW raging between the novel coronavirus and ALL of us directly or indirectly affected in a negative way if we do not reverse what the virus does to control us. So how does the virus thrive? The virus thrives by manipulating our epigenetics to favor its replication and spread. And how do we thrive? We thrive and conquer the virus by first successfully countering the epigenetic changes the virus is imposing on us. What are the main epigenetic changes the virus is furthering to conquer our mind, body and spirit....etc? The virus activates NF-kB, nuclear factor kappa beta, the cytosol sitting nuclear factor that when activated by the virus it moves into the nucleus and attaches to the promotor regions of genes that code for mRNA of proteins that facilitate internal oxidative stress and cytokine storms by proteins such as NADPH oxidase and proinflammatory proteins as IL-6. So the virus strives to take over the reproduction machinery of the host by creating a redox balance that is very significantly shifted in favor of the oxidation versus reduction pole of redox balance. The virus wins wen this when this shift is not signigicantly countered epigenetically. And the extent of this shift varies between Native Americans (remember the smallpox blanket gifts?) , greater than African Americans (remember the commencement of oxidative stress and endothelial dysfunction in African American adolescents v. "whites"). Guess what are the major reasons African Americans have more co-morbid risks (e.g., diabetes, stroke, heart attack, sudden death, congestive heart failure...etc) than do "whites". The general answer is early age of onset of the side effects of oxidative stress and endothelial dysfunction translated into existence and acceleration by greater production of oxidative stress and endothelial dysfunction come from overactivation of the innate immune system. The key to our fighting back against what the new coronavirus is doing to us is through our wisdom figuring out epigenetic changes that we can facilitate that counters the epigenetic changes caused by over-stimulation / activation / upregulation of NF-kB.
What is the counter to over-stimulation of NF-kB? The answer is to stimulate the nuclear factor that when stimulated - namely the Nrf2 nuclear factor - that when stimulated migrates to the nucleus and counteracts the redox balance that favors the virus versus the host. When stimulated by antioxidants as sulforaphane, curcumin, quercetin, dimethyl fumarate, centella asiatica, Protandim (TM), PB125 (a proprietary mixture of Rosemary, Ashwagandha and luteolin, Nrf2 migrates to the nucleus and stimulates cellular defenses as anti-oxidant enzymes (e.g., superoxide dismutase, catalase, glutathione peroxidase) and TH2 / anti-inflammatory cytokines. Also there are agents that upregulate Nrf2 and downregulate NF-kB such as the proanthrocyanins in purple sweet potato, French maritime pine bark extract. melatonin, salsalate, benfotiamine.....
So, when the new coronavirus activates NF-kB unabated, it leads to the creation of superoxide, hydrogen peroxide, the hydroxyl radical - the most highly oxidizing species in the universe. How does the new coronavirus kill? Via hydroxyl radical production in the microvasculature that causes extravasation of inflammatory fluid into the alveoli, causing bilateral lung whiteouts, viral bilateral pneumonia and ARDS (acute resporatory distress syndrome) especially deadly in the elderly who have lower Nrf2 with age. Also the hydroxyl radical a potent cause of DNA oxidation, RNA oxidation and mutation. And thus the virus that mutates because of increased RNA mutation is the virus that gets more virulent and more deadly in the second wave. If we do not want to have BioPsychoSocialcognitiveeconomicspiritualculturalbehaviorialenvironmental(including conflict)EPIGENETICmotivational.....chaos result from the new coronavirus we must do more than hope and pray for a vaccine against a coronavirus that has thus far resisted conquer by vaccination. And guess what BioPsychoSocialcognitiveeconomicspiritualculturalbehaviorialenvironmental(including conflict)EPIGENETICmotivational....emotional chaos does cause oxidative stress themselves with oxidative stress induced NF-kB activation with an ongoing negative positive feedback loop. So we mus use our wisdom now to reverse what this new virus is doing to us coming and going. Do we wait and pray for a vaccine that might never come? Do we defer our wisdom and let the Mad Maxes of our gun toting world rev their engines of hatred and destruction?
Why did I hand out for free to 12 of my Native American patients today the following four interventions: PB125 (combination of Rosemary, Ashwagandha, Luteolin), French maritime pine bark extract, purple, sweet potato powder and benfotiamine?
It is because I believe in testing the following hypothesis in a prmary care Comparative Effectiveness Study:
Hypothesis: A combination of Nrf2 upregulation, NF-kB downregulation and miscellaneous anti-oxidative stress interventions will: A) prevent onset of COVID-19 illness; B) resist significant progression of illness; C) enhance bounce-back resilience from a pre-ARDS illness state; D) normalize disparities in outcomes; E) prevent complications like ARDS, Kawasaki disease, short term CNS side effects, defend against long term neurological disease as Parkinson's Disease; F) last but not at all least, in a very cost-effective way avoid the societal chaos and economic devastation that would otherwise result.
The above hypothesis if true will mean we will have a new way not only to approach other pandemics in the future, we will have means of manipulating signaling pathways in other diseases in a like manner so that we do not pay the ultimate price of having a descent into inhumanity as the result of being unable to use our wisdom to counter an internal battle that is the mother of most all battles in our evolution as a species.
Epigenetics, disease stress, oxidative stress and the molecular basis of internal and external stress and conflict resulting in multidimensional chaos, are out of sight out of mind to most ALL, but oh so important.
So being human and advancing as a species is very dependent on our ability to counteract overstimulation of our innate immune system and the advantage to disease and chaos resultant. We as human beings should be able to progressively rise to this challenge.
Charles Beauchamp MD, PhD rural solo practice internal medicine, Ahoskie NC
There is no 2 on the graphs :'( B-1-3-3-4
Didn't really address the question. tell us something we don't already know.
Paul Bingham answered the question
Humanoid robots are a silly affectation. They would be more maneuverable and stable if they were insectoid.
...and possibly even MORE fun to dance with ;-)
5 mins in, realising this isn't the michael moore documentry
Thank you, I was wondering. Saved me some time.
me too, but stayed til the end.
So, what I've learned from Paul Bingham is that tweets and sexting are the new state of virtual slings and arrows of our human misfortune.
That blows my mind!
All very interesting, but I'm surprised that no one bothered to consider the simple explanation that it is our embarrassment of riches which is what defines us as human beings. One could for example, say that a human must have fifty words of vocabulary by adulthood to be considered a human, plus x number of tools, plus such and such categories of art, and so forth. And, just like poor 'old Pluto, if you don't make the cut, you can start a petition on change.org and try and have the markers moved.
Yuval Harari should be here.
at 1h09 we aren't really more peaceful, physically maybe, but our violence is emotional and psychological mostly. So we are violent but we use our intellect instead of our canines or biceps.
The "Leap To The Top" part of the title here is just DESCRIPTIVE, not moralistically decided... in other words we don't know if it was or will turn out to be a GOOD thing that humans "leaped" to the top.
So far, it doesn't seem to be the case, just watch Michel Moore's "Planet of the Humans" documentary and see.
Good talk, however I do believe the human species is easily one of the most destructive and non peaceful species as a whole, I think what they meant to get across is that individually most of us have the ability to constrain ourselves from lashing out into violence unlike most other animals, if there is agitation, one of most animals immediate reactions is violence. Which is more of a matter of our composure skills.
Who's here from M. Moore's Planet of the Humans?
intro not good, mayhap put it i. the middle of discussion for perception!. personal preference
World Science Festival is great, but why do they always throw in song and dance?
Isn’t science enough without needing to resort to crass entertainment?
The more recent "Planet of the Humans" by Jeff Gibbs and Michael Moore is much more compelling and insightful. It is amazing how the same, deeply rooted, misconceptions about humans and their place in the natural world are so widely accepted and unquestioned by scientists, technologists, Wall Street investors, and economists. Hopefully our current survival challenges will force us to re-think our most cherished misconceptions.
Our survival depends upon it.
Paul Bingham has the answer with his Social Coercion Theory
Through watching this all I could think of was that Capitalism and Sustainability are no longer compatible. It was such a shame that the conclusion to the program was so rushed and vague when a proper decisive conclusion would have made a good documentary into a ground-breaking one.
Should have had Reggie Watts on the panel.
+Tom Coleman They should have had me on the panel.
Biomass reminds me of china's giant leap during the mao era where the population cannibalized any made of metal, including cooking wares and door knobs, from their homes just to increase production of steel and after all was done, came starvation.
...um, I think you meant your comment for Michael Moore's 'Planet of the Humans': this video is World Science Festival's 'Planet of the Humans', from 2015. Thanks for your excellent example of how easy it is to whoops ;-)
@@silkroadcaravan hi Silk. Sorry, i do not follow you. 1) Is not the 'planet of the humans' just released. why do you say from 2015? 2) when i said biomass, what i really meant was the cutting of the trees and the utilization of natural resources what could have been used for food, for conversion to energy, that will eventually lead to famine, etc, in the name of green energy. that is what i meant. maybe comparison to mao's great leap forward was a stretch but it did lead to disaster. :)
You have jumped the shark
"Humans: viruses with shoes" ~Bill Hicks" (not funny)
the lady professor looks like Mr. Spock from movie THE STAR TREK
one day when humans are extinct and the robots have taken over. Baby robot will say to mummy robot. Where do we come from. Mummy robot will say, god made us.
Alas, too many people speak in run-on sentences. Makes one think they got their degrees on that rather than whatever it is they were trying to discuss.
the lady scientist is saying that women brain didn't get bigger over time. haha
Dolphins are nasty! They engage in gang.
-Steven Pinker
I would say that the human genome has indicated that we are 99.8% similar to other primates therefore we are all biologically extremely similar. I could not help myself seeing all of the speakers as just animals related to apes and I mean that with no disrespect. As we transcend towards our continual striving to becoming God like we take on a destructive and creative nature. We are lethal because we think we know so much and we think we are so different , unfortunately the price we will have to pay for our human megalomania is the distraction of our planet. There is another aspect to evolution which science denies and that aspect is spiritual evolution. Spiritual evolution is the only evolutionary process connecting us back to our creator. I am not speaking about religious extremists but rather those who have tried to connect to a creator and miracles have taken place. We do not only evolve on a physical plane but also after death. There are miracles which are proven fact and there are many more which are fake.
A factual miracle is the Holy Fire in Jerusalem- did it evolve through spiritual evolution or is it a message from our creator. Holy fire is a plasma fire which burns at a low temperature emanating from the tomb of Christ.
Paul bingham , is totally and utterly misunderstood the meaning of darwinian evaluations, darwinian evaluation is based on principle of the survive of the stronger ( as individual) richard dawkings approach is far more is social evaluation , decompressing human nature toward unprecedented future which it does not contain any kind of true statements , he repeat what he has leaned from politicalised business
Paul Binghams Theory is built on top of Richard Dawsons work
Vegan is a emergent property, because it is here.
My comment got deleted because it was too real
Selfish vs altruist continues today.
Humans are created creatures. And they have not change since creation.
Can't wait to hear this youtube scientific documentary tell me how you can add to DNA even though nobody in the history of the world has ever seen a situation where traits were added to DNA. Scientists have only observed DNA losing traits with every generation. This ought to be fascinating. *sarcasm*
You are ingorant of the facts, we have those answers. Look them up..
I can't believe I would listen to this. Is there something wrong with being a healthy, happy, HUMAN BEING? You people seem desperate to make a living changing happiness.
Argh... I'm not trying to be mean here, but....Why do they alwayth choothe people who'the voitheth are tho hard to lithen to?
I can't get through this. I want to, but I can't take it.
I highly recommend a study in critical thinking for the advocates of renewables.
Millions of years ago, not a shred of evidence, all assumptions
That's obvious. Not brilliant...
These people are making absolutely ridiculous assumptions, of which we know NOTHING about. The discussion of how humans became what we are today over millions of years, is akin to saying “there is a guy named Bob on anothert planet somewhere”. Until you meet Bob, or find evidence of his existence, it’s a ridiculous statement. And the same goes for how humans were 1 million years ago. This guy talks as if he was there, or that we have evidence.... we DON’T. We have nothing. A few bones, and that is it. Give me a break.
Pure propaganda.
For an accurate debunking, watch "Planet of Humans: Debunked" on Now You Know channel.
Wrong documentary. Same title. But this one was made 4 years earlier and is about evolution of humans, not renewable energy. It was a good debunking by the way.