Now all we need are dedicated passenger rail lines so that we don’t have to wait for freight constantly even though passenger is supposed to have priority. Then we can run them on time and on a reasonable schedule and people might actually use them more, and they could be priced much more affordably to boot since they’re far cheaper to actually operate and maintain under these conditions. And if they were fully electric and high speed, we’d finally be catching up to the rest of the industralized world of the last 40 years. And I’m all for it!
Funny. We have the same problem in India. But we solved it by creating dedicated freight lines instead of dedicated passenger lines. The dedicated freight lines we built are awesome though, first time in the world electric freight trains with double stack. The panto is damn tall. Its good because we'll now have 100% electrified railways within next two years. We also have the same speed issues :( . In fact ours are much worse than current US situation I think. Luckily we are building some dedicated Shinkansen tracks and first rolling stock from Japan already arrived. In parallel we have a plan to upgrade the rest of the tracks for 200 kmph operation but it will take a couple of decades to upgrade all the lines. Rolling stock for those speeds is already being manufactured in large quantities. Hopefully, US railways improves similarly.
Technically, that's a government problem. Congress being paid by freight line lobbyists doesn't want the law on the books enforced for passenger train priority. God forbid they'll even provide Amtrak money to expand new rail lines (which alone is difficult in areas without much free land left)
A little common sense on the part of Amtrak would help, too. There is car and truck traffic from Los Angeles to Las Vegas on I-15, and frequent and veeerrrry expensive proposals to build new rail lines and run a train. But there are train tracks already in existence from Las Vegas to Los Angeles and you can trace them on Google Maps. The tracks actually pass under I-15 right next to the Mirage Hotel on the Strip. It would seem very easy for Amtrak to simply run build a terminal at both ends and run a train on those tracks, but noooo ... the closest Amtrak station from Las Vegas is in Kingman, Arizona ... almost two hours away.
It’s always wonderful to see improvements to the nation’s rail networks. While it will hurt to see the amfleets go, I’m welcoming these new trainsets with open arms.
Agreed, alot of my memories of Amtrak involve the Amfleet cars - I have enjoyed riding them and seeing Amfleet trains roll by all my life but there is no doubt it that the nations passenger rail systems needs some new, much more modern equipment. It wasn't until I started watching videos of other passenger rail systems in Europe that I realized how outdated our equipment is in comparison. Maybe this doesn't spell the end of the Amfleet entirely though, Amtrak talks of this great expansion to new corridors all over the country....maybe a smaller fleet of Amfleet cars would be good to test out the viability of new start up corridors/routes and if ridership proves promising, order up new equipment for those services?
No doubt about missing the Amfleet cars they plan to replace. I'm gonna miss seeing the stainless steel cars pass by but it will be nice to see something more modern on the rail network.
As it is with most things, we're sad to see them go, but happy to welcome the new ones. Just think of how many out of date commuter railroads could buy the ex amfleets and put them to good use!
@@pennsyrailfan I bet CT Rail ends up with some, I think their lease on those MBTA cars are up soon and I think the Amfleet cars would make a good replacement for their fleet.
Definitely a step into the right direction, if America now electrifies more of the railway network and expands higher speed services, we're almost up to date!
@@jpegjpg Changing this would require changing the designs of cities and infrastructure across the country. It can be done, but it will take time. And actually, trains are cheaper in quite a few circumstances for long distance trips.
@@wyatttomlinson3475 I agree but where this train is being deployed it's not. Our population density is just too low in the midwest to justify heavy rail. Lots of people point to Japan and europe as examples of how to do rail properly but both europe and japan have much higher pop. density. The only place in the US that has similar pop. density is the north-east corridor, where rail is ok but could be better. But instead of focusing on that profitable route the government forces them to run unprofitable routes in the midwest, eliminating its ability to make the north east better where rail makes sense.
Given that we already have different versions of the Siemens Chargers running in California for almost 10 years now, and with Amtrak and Brightline for about 5 years, I'm pretty sure that these will be fantastic! These are good trains and we've already seen them in action! Amtrak did a great job getting these!
Glad to see Amtrak finally getting some of the resources it deserves and sorely needs. Continued investment in Amtrak is critical to the future of passenger service in the US.
@@s0nnyburnett the only reason amtrak is even feasible today is because of democrats. Are you on effin drugs? You think Republicans have been pro rail? Jesus you right wingers are literally dumb as a rock. #magamoron
@@abuBrachiosaurus it's a fact? The ONLY reason amtrak is getting a huge upgrade is cuz biden gave them historic funding. The two literally go hand in hand
@@Cal90208 oh Adam hey uhh, how long has it been? Anyways yeah no joke but every time I see anything like a 2021 or 22 cars or trucks etc, I call them futuristic sometimes
Doesn't really look futuristic to me, but just normal. They're not even electric and the inside literally just looks the same as the more modern trains we have here in the Netherlands.
I love the Euro-look of the new cars, thanks to the plug doors. A great refresh to the tired look of sliding doors on American passenger trains. We'll be getting Siemens Venture cars even earlier in California, and I'm looking forward to experiencing them.
I remember watching the concept video for the new Amtrak Acela and now Amtrak is moving on to something above their limits and making something better for passenger rail service. Amtrak you sure have came along way can’t wait for the next few years
@@wolfgang6915 it’s the rail/lines that are the problem, not the trains. This is still necessary, but yeah definitely a big part of the solution is more rails dedicated to passenger only. or if it’s shared between freight and passengers, it has to be slow, fast lines have to go on their own tracks and ideally run often, between economically viable locations, with the high-density housing around it.
It's so bizarre that not all routes are electrified, and we're in the 21st century and there is all this talk about lowering carbon emissions. Euro countries electrified their lines in the decades following WW2.
@@SergeyNeiss Im pretty sure the reason most lines aren't electrified is because tracks are private in the US and the freight industry owns the vast majority of track outside of the northeast corridor, where amtrak does have some electrified lines. The freight industry really doesn't have any incentive to electrify, or at least it would cost more than its worth to them to electrify lines and update rolling stock. At least for the amtrak routes outside the NEC to become electrified would probably require some nationalization of the mainlines (like what most of Europe is) or some significant incentive for the freight companies. Note: I'm not an expert on rail here in the US, so I may be wrong or there may be other reasons
The new Airo looks beautiful, I hope it is just the beginning of the railway improvements in the US. The country needs a fast and reliable railway network. Greetings from Europe.
@@N00N01 Dude, what are you talking about? This is brand new Siemens rolling stock that is actually based on extremely well-loved trains that run on the Railjet services in Europe. They are quite fantastic and practically universally acclaimed. The Charger is an American spec Vectron and the Venture cats are Americanized Viaggio Comfort cars. It is completely amazing that we're "Railjetting" almost all of our intercity routes! This is complete science fiction! A completely new era for Amtrak!
@@N00N01 These are not GE units. Keep in min that the GE P-40 / P42 type units are early 1990's technology. There were a lot of issues, then and it's likely that these trains will have some "bugs" to be worked out, like any other new vehicle. But it's a long way forward as far as safety and comfort. But I admit that I still miss the F40's and the Heritage Budd cars.
The new cab car design is pleasing to me. It reminds me of the Driving Van Trailer used on the British InterCity 225 trainsets, in that both the Venture/Airo cab car and IC225 DVT are designed to resemble the Charger and Class 91 locomotive, respectively. It makes for a nice, clean look as opposed to the blunt-end cab cars we've become accustomed to since the CB&Q introduced them in 1960.
Nice to see the Amfleet replacements have an official design and new name. Also, please tell the press conference speaker to speak with much more enthusiasm. He is announcing the newest train for Amtrak after all...
These are literally the exact same Siemens trains that Brightline is using. The locomotives have a slightly different aero nose cone and the Brightline Chargers are slightly detuned for commuter service, but they are identical otherwise. So you could say that Amtrak is basically expanding Brightline service for the entire country! Of course, these trains that Brightline, Amtrak, and VIA are now going to use are actually based on the Siemens rolling stock that Railjet uses in Europe. Which are a very popular service and quite fantastic. So I like to think of it as the "Railjetification" of Amtrak nation-wide!
Those new Airo trains look AWESOME but I'm gonna miss the old fleets. They were cool but now it's time for their replacement and the Airo looks like it has a promising future.
I will miss the Amfleet I’s because they are an icon of life in the northeast and still not bad to ride in even at their age, but I am excited for the next era, too.
After experiencing Japan's rail system, I loved it and miss it! Really wish the US had more routes, I understand with how big the US is I'd be difficult, but boy would it be nice not to have to drive and be able to enjoy the scenery.
Oh, this is more than just mere improvement! This is the first full fleet update in Amtrak's history! This is a completely new era for American passenger rail! Make no mistake, this is an enormous deal!
I'm an American who's currently living in the UK and these designs are straight from the trains over here but I'm so happy to see the US finally investing in rail!
I’d like for all of the NE Regional line to eventually become electrified rail. I live in a city that has 3 Amtrak lines roll through with the NE Regional coming from Roanoke. I understand that these things take a lot of time but Amtrak is getting better. These new cars look like a fresh update on aging train sets, which will be a significant improvement when they go live. I enjoy riding with Amtrak.
I think the answer is "kind of." In Europe the exact same rolling stock is used on OBB's Railjet services. They're considered a high speed service there. And these will run on the 125-150 mph Northeast corridor and on a few 110 mph corridors in the West. So these will be "almost HSR" on many of the target services, but not all. Either way, this is premium express rolling stock that Amtrak is rolling out to almost all of its intercities nation-wide! I'm happy as a clam! 😁
These trains MUST be able to attract new passengers, or this whole project is a bust. But even if they do, this it not quite a new era of rail which I think is an overstatement, it's more of a step in the right direction of revitalizing rail in the US
@@transitcaptain More sustainable routes, consolidation of less sustainable routes & more efficient equipment honestly should be enough to do the trick for the time being imo
I hope its better than the Current Amtrack Scheduling . Taking 10 hrs. for a 5 hour trip, between Fullerton Ca. to Needles Ca. freight Train after Frt. Train. Always waiting for THEM!!!
Amtrak is getting brand new trains to replace their outdated passenger cars from the 1971 founding. Amtrak Airo will come and it's gonna be great for Amtrak
It will suck to see amfleets go, but this looks cool! I hope to catch some amfleets on video before they are gone, and can’t wait to catch some of these on camera! Welcome Ario!
Yep they're going to place the Metroliner Cab Cars, Some of the ACS-64 Locomotives, Horizon Coaches, Amfleet 1 Coaches, Some P42DC Locomotives, HHP-8 Cab Cars which are to split the gap between the Metroliner Cab Cars and the arrival of the Venture Cab Cars, P32AC-DM Locomotives (Although Some of those lines will have Battery Powered ALC-42E Trainsets).
There are two ways to do that, 1. We build a completely new rail system, and might as well make it an HSR system. Building it would cost insane amounts of money. 2. We decouple the freight carriers from track ownership. We make the existing freight companies split in to carriers who own and run rolling stock and separate companies that that only own the rails but are not allowed to run their own trains on them. After that we can either nationalize the track-owning companies or keep them tightly regulated local monopolies. As long as they don't have their own trains and are required to sell train slots on the open market, we'll see incredible improvements in both rail efficiency overall and Amtrak performance specifically. I still think that the track needs to be nationalized under Amtrak or a revived Conrail. But even if you just force the track companies to sell their train slots on an open market we'll see big improvements in the US rail system.
The only thing missing is to give Amtrak, or any passenger rail service honestly, its own rail network so that it doesn't have to use the same rails as freight trains
It's up to us to fund Amtrak to buy out a bunch of disused track. There's plenty of corridors that the freight companies have basically degraded beyond use. Virginia bought such a corridor. So did Illinois. California has been doing it steadily for decades now. It's just money.
Yep! And that is a very very good thing! I don't understand how Amtrak managed to con itself into nearly nation-wide Railjet intercity service, but I love it! This is a major win!
@@banksrail I think that Amtrak finally got all the hints from everyone and is starting to focus on the more profitable and popular intercity routes rather than to continue trying to salvage the sinking ship that is the long-distance routes. To me this massive order of intercity equipment reads as "Ok, if all you people want is just more intercity lines then that's what you're gonna get!"
@@TohaBgood2 I somewhat agree and disagree. I think it reads “*surprised face* We just got some funding. FINALLY!!! Let’s do what we’ve been itching to do for decades and start having a consistent fleet!” My only skepticism of this, is that they will replace every Amfleet I and scrap them instead of sending them temporally to the various state corridors that badly need the equipment.
I am a rail / train / public trans advocate, civil engineer who worked in the field for decades for a Gov't agency. I do welcome these new trainsets. HOWEVER, A LOT needs to be done regarding priorities on ALL the routes outside the Northeast Corridor which are owned by freight railroads. Passenger trains need to be given priority. Agreements / financial compensation need to be worked out ahead of time. More passing sidings, double track sections, better signaling, better coordination & communication, COOPERATION, etc, etc, are all needed. Otherwise, passengers are going to be equally unhappy sitting on a siding in these fancy new trains while a 200 car freight rumbles past going 8 mph. I've traveled outside the NEC enough, & know this situation all too well. Yes, all of this will take significant investment, tradeoffs of priorities, but is justified by the investment in these new train sets.
I think long term we just give up on the long-distance trains and turn them into what they basically already are - expensive excursion trains. We just need to up the luxury level and increase the prices so that at least they stop losing $400 per ticket. It doesn't really matter if the long-distance trains are delayed by freight because they aren't transportation, they're "an experience". Aside from that, I think we will just identify the viable intercity short and medium-haul corridors and either take them over from freight completely (see Virginia), or apply very concentrated pressure on the Class 1s to allow intensive upgrades on those specific Corridors. Then we can increase the speeds on those corridors to 110-125mph - and there's our modest nation-wide HSR network already taking shape! Throw in a few expensive dedicated HSR corridors that we'll just have to build from scratch, and you have a great national HSR system! We just need to finish CAHSR, somehow fund Texas Central, and maybe a few more HSR projects. It really isn't that hard, we just need the national will to do it!
The trains are even cool. Also, these rains will be later released in 2026. It will go at 125 mph or 200 kmh. So when they will be released, well see what it looks like to drive on it
Actually, Amtrak California and Amtrak Midwest already bought these same trains. So you can already ride them right now in the Midwest. They're on the new 110 mph services there on the Wolverine and the Lincoln Service. They're going to launch in the upcoming couple of months on the Amtrak San Joaquins train in California. They're good trains. These are the same trains that some of the more premium express services use in Europe, like the OBB Railjet services. Amtrak is basically putting premium express trains on all of its intercity routes nation wide! Exciting times! The Railjetification of Amtrak!
@@AS-lm2yv The Charger+Venture platform tops out at 135 mph in their American trim. But Siemens only certified their trains for 125 mph operations. This is probably because they're only one right of way in the entire country that can support speeds above 125 mph - the NEC. The European version of the same Siemens trains goes 140 mph in regular operations on the Railjet services. So yes, Siemens could probably up their top speed over time to 140 mph. Technically, the trains can already do 135-140 mph. They're just not certified with the FRA to do it.
@@AS-lm2yv It's not about the trains. It's about the track. You can always buy faster trains. They're not even much more expensive. What you actually need for 186-200-220 mph trains is the proper right of way. You need full grade separation. You need electrification. You need level boarding stations. Once you have all of that you can just buy an HSR trainset by selling a couple of the old AIRO trains.
The cars do look pretty, but are you also gonna do infrastructure upgrades to support higher speeds, station refurbishments so that the public actually enjoys using them, and schedule increases so there are trains at reasonable hours both into and out of a given destination?
Took a three hour train ride from WNY to Cleveland and enjoyed the economy experience. My only grip is the infrastructure being shared with cargo trains. Until Passenger trains get their own rails, nobody is going to use rail for transport on a massive scale. I did it because my car at the time was on the frits.
That’s exactly what these are! The Siemens Charger is the American version of the Vectron and the Siemens Venture cars are the American version of the Viaggio Comfort. And yes, we’re really exited to ride these! 😃
Yes yes yes yes yes!!! Modernize the whole country please! This is what we need! Can’t wait to ride the sunset limited or the Pacific Surfliner in one of these!!
Well, at least the Vectron lineage of the Chargers makes them very easily upgradeable to overhead catenary with a pantograph semi-permanently coupled car! In fact, Amtrak will actually run all of the new AIRO trains with that electrified setup whenever catenary power is available. And if we decide to pay for nation-wide electrification, then it would be infinitely easy to just order more pantograph cars from Siemens and run all the Chargers on electric 100% of the time! Technically, the Cummins engine that Siemens stuck in their European Vectron to make it an American Charger would be dead weight. But that extra weight is literally peanuts for a modern train.
The seats MUST be as comfortable as the Amfleets, it signals people that they are on a train not a bus or plane. The Venture seats won't be good enough
The Venture seats are good enough on Brightline and on Railjet. Why wouldn't they be good enough on Amtrak? They're literally exactly the same coaches with the exact same seats!
@@TohaBgood2 My point stands for Brightline as well. Fine for commuter rail, but no further. The Amfleet seats are exceptional and are the standard we should hold the passanger rail experience to.
@@craigurquhart5337 Sure, but they are revolutionary to us. We haven't had proper passenger rail in almost 60 years! Amtrak was set up as a vessel that would absorb all the failing at-the-time passenger lines. It was supposed to quietly die in 5-10 years and take all the passenger lines with it! The fact that it staunchly refused to die, or rather that we refused to stop using it, is already a miracle. The fact that Amtrak has been growing pretty intensely over the last couple of decades and is now finally entering a modern era with proper modern trains is completely unprecedented. This is literally the first full fleet refresh that Amtrak has ever had! And Amtrak is upgrading to the exact same equipment that highly acclaimed European lines like Railjet are using. This is incredible! These Siemens trains are also the open secret of Brightline's success. Amtrak is doing a lot of things right with this upgrade! They've hit it out of the park!
I wish we had trains whipping around North America. I’d love to jump on one in Calgary Canada and head down to the states. I’m sure a lot of American would like it too
Looks nice. I just hope they can decrease the delays. I've only taken Amtrak once like 20 years ago when I was a kid, & the delay was 4-5 hours which we could have driven to our destination by that time.
One of the biggest issues I’ve had the times I’ve ridden Amtrac is from having to wait for freight trains to pass. I know it probably won’t happen but dedicate passenger rail lines would be awesome. Especially on those long haul routes out west like the zephyr
Amtrak buying the same rolling stock as Railjet is just some kind of Voodoo magic science fiction to me! Still can't believe that we're getting these trains stateside! Amtrak! $%## yeah! 😁
As don’t forget they’re going to be traveling along in other Washington state cities & there’s gonna be a new station called Amtrak Airo Tacoma Station at the BNSF Tacoma Train Yard
Now all we need are dedicated passenger rail lines so that we don’t have to wait for freight constantly even though passenger is supposed to have priority. Then we can run them on time and on a reasonable schedule and people might actually use them more, and they could be priced much more affordably to boot since they’re far cheaper to actually operate and maintain under these conditions. And if they were fully electric and high speed, we’d finally be catching up to the rest of the industralized world of the last 40 years. And I’m all for it!
Funny. We have the same problem in India. But we solved it by creating dedicated freight lines instead of dedicated passenger lines. The dedicated freight lines we built are awesome though, first time in the world electric freight trains with double stack. The panto is damn tall. Its good because we'll now have 100% electrified railways within next two years.
We also have the same speed issues :( . In fact ours are much worse than current US situation I think.
Luckily we are building some dedicated Shinkansen tracks and first rolling stock from Japan already arrived. In parallel we have a plan to upgrade the rest of the tracks for 200 kmph operation but it will take a couple of decades to upgrade all the lines. Rolling stock for those speeds is already being manufactured in large quantities. Hopefully, US railways improves similarly.
Damn right!
And a less bumpy ride.
Technically, that's a government problem. Congress being paid by freight line lobbyists doesn't want the law on the books enforced for passenger train priority. God forbid they'll even provide Amtrak money to expand new rail lines (which alone is difficult in areas without much free land left)
A little common sense on the part of Amtrak would help, too. There is car and truck traffic from Los Angeles to Las Vegas on I-15, and frequent and veeerrrry expensive proposals to build new rail lines and run a train. But there are train tracks already in existence from Las Vegas to Los Angeles and you can trace them on Google Maps. The tracks actually pass under I-15 right next to the Mirage Hotel on the Strip. It would seem very easy for Amtrak to simply run build a terminal at both ends and run a train on those tracks, but noooo ... the closest Amtrak station from Las Vegas is in Kingman, Arizona ... almost two hours away.
It’s always wonderful to see improvements to the nation’s rail networks. While it will hurt to see the amfleets go, I’m welcoming these new trainsets with open arms.
Agreed, alot of my memories of Amtrak involve the Amfleet cars - I have enjoyed riding them and seeing Amfleet trains roll by all my life but there is no doubt it that the nations passenger rail systems needs some new, much more modern equipment. It wasn't until I started watching videos of other passenger rail systems in Europe that I realized how outdated our equipment is in comparison. Maybe this doesn't spell the end of the Amfleet entirely though, Amtrak talks of this great expansion to new corridors all over the country....maybe a smaller fleet of Amfleet cars would be good to test out the viability of new start up corridors/routes and if ridership proves promising, order up new equipment for those services?
No doubt about missing the Amfleet cars they plan to replace. I'm gonna miss seeing the stainless steel cars pass by but it will be nice to see something more modern on the rail network.
As it is with most things, we're sad to see them go, but happy to welcome the new ones. Just think of how many out of date commuter railroads could buy the ex amfleets and put them to good use!
@@pennsyrailfan I bet CT Rail ends up with some, I think their lease on those MBTA cars are up soon and I think the Amfleet cars would make a good replacement for their fleet.
How about updating the infrastructure. I love when the Acela is stuck behind a freight train. A bunch of muppets.
Definitely a step into the right direction, if America now electrifies more of the railway network and expands higher speed services, we're almost up to date!
nah bro, up to date would be a system like in france, germany, italy or Great Britian…
@@Kuba-hs4ns than stop driving and ride trains
@@nolantherailfan5048 It's hard when driving is cheaper and faster.
@@jpegjpg Changing this would require changing the designs of cities and infrastructure across the country. It can be done, but it will take time. And actually, trains are cheaper in quite a few circumstances for long distance trips.
@@wyatttomlinson3475 I agree but where this train is being deployed it's not. Our population density is just too low in the midwest to justify heavy rail. Lots of people point to Japan and europe as examples of how to do rail properly but both europe and japan have much higher pop. density. The only place in the US that has similar pop. density is the north-east corridor, where rail is ok but could be better. But instead of focusing on that profitable route the government forces them to run unprofitable routes in the midwest, eliminating its ability to make the north east better where rail makes sense.
Honestly looks amazing. Just hope they’re not plagued with issues
Siemens always delivers. Literally.
I just hope they scarp the battery’s locomotives idea.
@@orbitsrailfanvids haha semens
Given that we already have different versions of the Siemens Chargers running in California for almost 10 years now, and with Amtrak and Brightline for about 5 years, I'm pretty sure that these will be fantastic!
These are good trains and we've already seen them in action! Amtrak did a great job getting these!
I hope 🤞 they aren’t plagued by issues too. This could 🐝 the benchmark that yanks Americans out of their cars 🚘 and onto the trains 🚆.
Glad to see Amtrak finally getting some of the resources it deserves and sorely needs. Continued investment in Amtrak is critical to the future of passenger service in the US.
Was made possible by democrats!
@@htown148 it's easy to fix problems that you create then make it look like a hero's job.
@@s0nnyburnett the only reason amtrak is even feasible today is because of democrats. Are you on effin drugs? You think Republicans have been pro rail? Jesus you right wingers are literally dumb as a rock. #magamoron
@@htown148 Gotta make it political don't 'cha?
@@abuBrachiosaurus it's a fact? The ONLY reason amtrak is getting a huge upgrade is cuz biden gave them historic funding. The two literally go hand in hand
Omg Amtrak that looks so futuristic to me! Can’t wait to look inside and ride it for the very first time!
Me too.
Futuristic?
@@Cal90208 oh Adam hey uhh, how long has it been? Anyways yeah no joke but every time I see anything like a 2021 or 22 cars or trucks etc, I call them futuristic sometimes
Doesn't really look futuristic to me, but just normal. They're not even electric and the inside literally just looks the same as the more modern trains we have here in the Netherlands.
bro you good it isnt even eletric its still diesel in portugal our trains are better
I like the fact that each individual seat has its own armrests, as supposed to one armrest shared between two seats. 👍🏼😊
Fatbitch, thats called abolishment of the arm-rest-code you hog, there was a balanced trade-off but you slust ruin the world
I love the Euro-look of the new cars, thanks to the plug doors. A great refresh to the tired look of sliding doors on American passenger trains. We'll be getting Siemens Venture cars even earlier in California, and I'm looking forward to experiencing them.
I'm itching to ride them on the San Joaquins! They should be getting them soon now!
Doesnt matter of the heavy P4Xdc is stopping and starting like shit, particularly compared to actual true railtraction
@@N00N01 What?
Funnily enough, as a European this train looks totally American to me
This train doesn't look european in any way
Good progress! Don't stop! We hope to see American rail return to normal good rail service, and exceed the bars set in the mid-20th century!
I remember watching the concept video for the new Amtrak Acela and now Amtrak is moving on to something above their limits and making something better for passenger rail service. Amtrak you sure have came along way can’t wait for the next few years
Slow Trains....
@@wolfgang6915 it’s the rail/lines that are the problem, not the trains.
This is still necessary, but yeah definitely a big part of the solution is more rails dedicated to passenger only.
or if it’s shared between freight and passengers, it has to be slow, fast lines have to go on their own tracks and ideally run often, between economically viable locations, with the high-density housing around it.
Amtrak is such an underrated service in the states. Would love to see more electrified lines!
Too bad it's also so underfunded.
The day that us rail network becomes faster than driving and cheaper than flying will revive the passenger train trips.
It’s not underrated sir
It's so bizarre that not all routes are electrified, and we're in the 21st century and there is all this talk about lowering carbon emissions. Euro countries electrified their lines in the decades following WW2.
@@SergeyNeiss Im pretty sure the reason most lines aren't electrified is because tracks are private in the US and the freight industry owns the vast majority of track outside of the northeast corridor, where amtrak does have some electrified lines. The freight industry really doesn't have any incentive to electrify, or at least it would cost more than its worth to them to electrify lines and update rolling stock. At least for the amtrak routes outside the NEC to become electrified would probably require some nationalization of the mainlines (like what most of Europe is) or some significant incentive for the freight companies.
Note: I'm not an expert on rail here in the US, so I may be wrong or there may be other reasons
The new trains look nice looking forward to seeing them enter service on the network and getting the opportunity to ride them
The new Airo looks beautiful, I hope it is just the beginning of the railway improvements in the US. The country needs a fast and reliable railway network.
Greetings from Europe.
These ario trains are an Americanized version of the railjet in Europe
Fantastic! A whole new Amtrak for a new rail era in American passenger rail! Can't wait!
Same P42DCs that start and stop like a fucking brick
@@N00N01 Dude, what are you talking about? This is brand new Siemens rolling stock that is actually based on extremely well-loved trains that run on the Railjet services in Europe. They are quite fantastic and practically universally acclaimed. The Charger is an American spec Vectron and the Venture cats are Americanized Viaggio Comfort cars.
It is completely amazing that we're "Railjetting" almost all of our intercity routes! This is complete science fiction! A completely new era for Amtrak!
@@N00N01 These are not GE units. Keep in min that the GE P-40 / P42 type units are early 1990's technology. There were a lot of issues, then and it's likely that these trains will have some "bugs" to be worked out, like any other new vehicle. But it's a long way forward as far as safety and comfort. But I admit that I still miss the F40's and the Heritage Budd cars.
The new cab car design is pleasing to me. It reminds me of the Driving Van Trailer used on the British InterCity 225 trainsets, in that both the Venture/Airo cab car and IC225 DVT are designed to resemble the Charger and Class 91 locomotive, respectively. It makes for a nice, clean look as opposed to the blunt-end cab cars we've become accustomed to since the CB&Q introduced them in 1960.
As an european I have always been a fan of the American Railnetwork. Glad to see Amtrak progressing in to the future.
The arios are an American version of the railjet it seems
Nice to see the Amfleet replacements have an official design and new name. Also, please tell the press conference speaker to speak with much more enthusiasm. He is announcing the newest train for Amtrak after all...
please provide government funding for enthusiastic speaker
@@nathantzhang Lol. But, yes.
new trains look really good, nice to see some really modern trains hit the rails. Pretty excited to ride one in the future!
They needed this! With Brightline making its rounds this a much a needed upgrade!
These are literally the exact same Siemens trains that Brightline is using. The locomotives have a slightly different aero nose cone and the Brightline Chargers are slightly detuned for commuter service, but they are identical otherwise.
So you could say that Amtrak is basically expanding Brightline service for the entire country!
Of course, these trains that Brightline, Amtrak, and VIA are now going to use are actually based on the Siemens rolling stock that Railjet uses in Europe. Which are a very popular service and quite fantastic. So I like to think of it as the "Railjetification" of Amtrak nation-wide!
@@TohaBgood2 fantastic!
Those new Airo trains look AWESOME but I'm gonna miss the old fleets. They were cool but now it's time for their replacement and the Airo looks like it has a promising future.
YESSS LET'S GO! TRAINIFY AMERICA!
I will miss the Amfleet I’s because they are an icon of life in the northeast and still not bad to ride in even at their age, but I am excited for the next era, too.
I will miss the amfleet I's because they're my childhood but I can't wait to ride the Amtrak Airo sets
The P42's are also my childhood
After experiencing Japan's rail system, I loved it and miss it! Really wish the US had more routes, I understand with how big the US is I'd be difficult, but boy would it be nice not to have to drive and be able to enjoy the scenery.
Very cool! Its always nice to see Amtrak improving!
Oh, this is more than just mere improvement! This is the first full fleet update in Amtrak's history! This is a completely new era for American passenger rail! Make no mistake, this is an enormous deal!
@@TohaBgood2 ohhhh ok. Well that sounds very exciting!!! New engines to film!!!
@@Strasburg90fan Can't wait! These things are quite gorgeous!
Viva Amtrak! 🇺🇸
I’m so exited for them to be painted into Amtrak cascades paint scheme😊
I'm an American who's currently living in the UK and these designs are straight from the trains over here but I'm so happy to see the US finally investing in rail!
Wow Amtrak has some great trains can’t wait to film it.
That really looks amazing! It would be so good if that new amtrak train would be in service!
Yayyy! I love amtrak
I’d like for all of the NE Regional line to eventually become electrified rail. I live in a city that has 3 Amtrak lines roll through with the NE Regional coming from Roanoke. I understand that these things take a lot of time but Amtrak is getting better. These new cars look like a fresh update on aging train sets, which will be a significant improvement when they go live. I enjoy riding with Amtrak.
This looks like a beautiful train, but is the Amtrak Airo a high speed train? We need to catch up with the rest of the world here in the USA!
Even if it's not a high-speed train the USA has fallen behind on suburban and intercity trains too, so this will still help them to catch up.
@@20quid Absolutely! I totally agree!
I think the answer is "kind of." In Europe the exact same rolling stock is used on OBB's Railjet services. They're considered a high speed service there. And these will run on the 125-150 mph Northeast corridor and on a few 110 mph corridors in the West.
So these will be "almost HSR" on many of the target services, but not all. Either way, this is premium express rolling stock that Amtrak is rolling out to almost all of its intercities nation-wide! I'm happy as a clam! 😁
Finally more than just P42s and amfleets its good to see that amtrak is finally doing a modernization to their rolling stock :)
These trains MUST be able to attract new passengers, or this whole project is a bust. But even if they do, this it not quite a new era of rail which I think is an overstatement, it's more of a step in the right direction of revitalizing rail in the US
It'll be a new era for the US, but not for other countries for sure.
@@trijetz3562 We need much more than new Rolling stock to make a new era of rail for the US. We need HSR and more destinations
@@transitcaptain I think we just need to cut any corridors that are too long and slow to compete with anything first, then improve what’s left.
@@transitcaptain HSR comes after destinations. Speeds are being upgraded in some parts and ofc ConnectsUS and ConnectID exist to fund further routes
@@transitcaptain More sustainable routes, consolidation of less sustainable routes & more efficient equipment honestly should be enough to do the trick for the time being imo
I hope its better than the Current Amtrack Scheduling . Taking 10 hrs. for a 5 hour trip, between Fullerton Ca. to Needles Ca. freight Train after Frt. Train. Always waiting for THEM!!!
I'm so hyped! The US has been needing a new nationwide transit network since the interstate system turned 30!
Soon Amtrak will give Europe a run for their money
@@adventuresofamtrakcascades301 Pretty sure Asia is already doing that
@@adventuresofamtrakcascades301 *using European manufacturer's (Stadler, Siemens etc)
@@adventuresofamtrakcascades301 lol, good luck with that
@@Steve_McMillen If so, that's cool!
Tomorrow I’m gonna book a ride! I’m so excited!
This reminds me of the X2000 from the 1990s testing. Got that classic futuristic vibe!
X2000 has a tilting system for a rail with a lot of curves.
@@johnojvind7641 true. Am curious to know what to expect what this new set is gonna be like.
Amtrak is getting brand new trains to replace their outdated passenger cars from the 1971 founding. Amtrak Airo will come and it's gonna be great for Amtrak
Probs for Amtrak for their new design for the next generation of passenger railroading!
It will suck to see amfleets go, but this looks cool! I hope to catch some amfleets on video before they are gone, and can’t wait to catch some of these on camera! Welcome Ario!
Since Bachmann makes the Siemens Charger locomotives in HO scale and N scale, I hope they do this in model form as well.
Are these going to be push-pull trains? They look really nice!
Yes.
Yep they're going to place the Metroliner Cab Cars, Some of the ACS-64 Locomotives, Horizon Coaches, Amfleet 1 Coaches, Some P42DC Locomotives, HHP-8 Cab Cars which are to split the gap between the Metroliner Cab Cars and the arrival of the Venture Cab Cars, P32AC-DM Locomotives (Although Some of those lines will have Battery Powered ALC-42E Trainsets).
Nice? It’s a beautiful Amtrak train
Ayyy nice to see modern looking rolling stock on Amtrack congrats US Americans.
These look great! Please connect Richmond to the northeast high speed rail network!
Looks like Amtrak is heading in the right direction! Hopefully these sets will be reliable and attract new customers.
Oh wow! Now I'm excited!
I like how it is similar to the ACS look! I can't wait to see it
It also looks like the Siemens SC-44 and ALC-42 Charger locomotive front ends.
I am so excited for this, you have no idea.
Now let's see an improvement for Amtrak stations, frequency of service, and an independent rail for Amtrak. No longer sharing with freightliners
There are two ways to do that,
1. We build a completely new rail system, and might as well make it an HSR system. Building it would cost insane amounts of money.
2. We decouple the freight carriers from track ownership. We make the existing freight companies split in to carriers who own and run rolling stock and separate companies that that only own the rails but are not allowed to run their own trains on them.
After that we can either nationalize the track-owning companies or keep them tightly regulated local monopolies. As long as they don't have their own trains and are required to sell train slots on the open market, we'll see incredible improvements in both rail efficiency overall and Amtrak performance specifically.
I still think that the track needs to be nationalized under Amtrak or a revived Conrail. But even if you just force the track companies to sell their train slots on an open market we'll see big improvements in the US rail system.
I'm excited for the new trains.
The only thing missing is to give Amtrak, or any passenger rail service honestly, its own rail network so that it doesn't have to use the same rails as freight trains
The way the northeast corridor does.
It's up to us to fund Amtrak to buy out a bunch of disused track. There's plenty of corridors that the freight companies have basically degraded beyond use. Virginia bought such a corridor. So did Illinois. California has been doing it steadily for decades now.
It's just money.
This is what Amtrak needs a modern twist with these times, slightest details can be a huge thing.
These ario trains are just an Americanized version of the railjet in Europe
Yep! And that is a very very good thing! I don't understand how Amtrak managed to con itself into nearly nation-wide Railjet intercity service, but I love it! This is a major win!
@@TohaBgood2this is really gonna attract new riders as people will enjoy these modern trains
About time a change 🎉
YESSIR! This looks awesome 😎 Glad you guys are keeping the great work
Can't wait to see the Airos in service! Been patiently waiting for their rollout from the factory.
Looks really cool!
Amazing! Let’s keep building and exploring
I hope Amtrak starts talking about Superliner replacements soon…….
I don't think they will replacing the Superliners in the near future, because Amtrak already starting to refurbising them
They’re in the very early stages of getting replacements. But superliners will be here for another decade
@@ryadi1703 The refurbished the Amfleets too. So that really doesn’t mean much.
@@banksrail I think that Amtrak finally got all the hints from everyone and is starting to focus on the more profitable and popular intercity routes rather than to continue trying to salvage the sinking ship that is the long-distance routes.
To me this massive order of intercity equipment reads as "Ok, if all you people want is just more intercity lines then that's what you're gonna get!"
@@TohaBgood2 I somewhat agree and disagree. I think it reads “*surprised face* We just got some funding. FINALLY!!! Let’s do what we’ve been itching to do for decades and start having a consistent fleet!”
My only skepticism of this, is that they will replace every Amfleet I and scrap them instead of sending them temporally to the various state corridors that badly need the equipment.
I am a rail / train / public trans advocate, civil engineer who worked in the field for decades for a Gov't agency. I do welcome these new trainsets. HOWEVER, A LOT needs to be done regarding priorities on ALL the routes outside the Northeast Corridor which are owned by freight railroads. Passenger trains need to be given priority. Agreements / financial compensation need to be worked out ahead of time. More passing sidings, double track sections, better signaling, better coordination & communication, COOPERATION, etc, etc, are all needed. Otherwise, passengers are going to be equally unhappy sitting on a siding in these fancy new trains while a 200 car freight rumbles past going 8 mph. I've traveled outside the NEC enough, & know this situation all too well. Yes, all of this will take significant investment, tradeoffs of priorities, but is justified by the investment in these new train sets.
I think long term we just give up on the long-distance trains and turn them into what they basically already are - expensive excursion trains. We just need to up the luxury level and increase the prices so that at least they stop losing $400 per ticket. It doesn't really matter if the long-distance trains are delayed by freight because they aren't transportation, they're "an experience".
Aside from that, I think we will just identify the viable intercity short and medium-haul corridors and either take them over from freight completely (see Virginia), or apply very concentrated pressure on the Class 1s to allow intensive upgrades on those specific Corridors. Then we can increase the speeds on those corridors to 110-125mph - and there's our modest nation-wide HSR network already taking shape!
Throw in a few expensive dedicated HSR corridors that we'll just have to build from scratch, and you have a great national HSR system! We just need to finish CAHSR, somehow fund Texas Central, and maybe a few more HSR projects.
It really isn't that hard, we just need the national will to do it!
Can’t wait to see those Cab Cars in action!
I know you want cab cars and track tad before them was the rebuilt by Metro liners
We need more funding for passenger rail
@Amtrak thank you for sharing 👍👍
Went on Amtrak for the first time last month, from Memphis to New Orleans. I'll love to ride again
sad to see the amfleets go, but these trainsets do look cool
The trains are even cool. Also, these rains will be later released in 2026. It will go at 125 mph or 200 kmh. So when they will be released, well see what it looks like to drive on it
Actually, Amtrak California and Amtrak Midwest already bought these same trains. So you can already ride them right now in the Midwest. They're on the new 110 mph services there on the Wolverine and the Lincoln Service. They're going to launch in the upcoming couple of months on the Amtrak San Joaquins train in California.
They're good trains. These are the same trains that some of the more premium express services use in Europe, like the OBB Railjet services. Amtrak is basically putting premium express trains on all of its intercity routes nation wide! Exciting times! The Railjetification of Amtrak!
@@TohaBgood2 do you know what their speed could be if the track speed was better? can they go 186 mph theoretically?
@@AS-lm2yv The Charger+Venture platform tops out at 135 mph in their American trim. But Siemens only certified their trains for 125 mph operations. This is probably because they're only one right of way in the entire country that can support speeds above 125 mph - the NEC.
The European version of the same Siemens trains goes 140 mph in regular operations on the Railjet services. So yes, Siemens could probably up their top speed over time to 140 mph. Technically, the trains can already do 135-140 mph. They're just not certified with the FRA to do it.
@@TohaBgood2 :( :( :( i want 186 mph trains :(
@@AS-lm2yv It's not about the trains. It's about the track. You can always buy faster trains. They're not even much more expensive.
What you actually need for 186-200-220 mph trains is the proper right of way. You need full grade separation. You need electrification. You need level boarding stations. Once you have all of that you can just buy an HSR trainset by selling a couple of the old AIRO trains.
The interior design of the Airo is really cool!
But then... what will happen to amfleets and regular passenger trains? Will they be replaced too?
And if so, why? The US needs more passenger trains, not just modernization.
Yayyyyyyyyy finally American keep thriving
I love this
Such a great train!
The cars do look pretty, but are you also gonna do infrastructure upgrades to support higher speeds, station refurbishments so that the public actually enjoys using them, and schedule increases so there are trains at reasonable hours both into and out of a given destination?
And way more regional trains too
Great work!
It's an Americanized version of the railjet in Europe
I can’t wait.
This looks really good...pretty much like a more upscale ACS-64 Cab Model.
THIS LOOKS AWESOME!!!!
Took a three hour train ride from WNY to Cleveland and enjoyed the economy experience. My only grip is the infrastructure being shared with cargo trains. Until Passenger trains get their own rails, nobody is going to use rail for transport on a massive scale. I did it because my car at the time was on the frits.
Let’s go!!!
Good work thanks
Oooh looks very similar to the railjets, which is a great thing! Gonna be honest I'm a bit jealous lol.
That’s exactly what these are! The Siemens Charger is the American version of the Vectron and the Siemens Venture cars are the American version of the Viaggio Comfort.
And yes, we’re really exited to ride these! 😃
you're so real for this
Yes yes yes yes yes!!! Modernize the whole country please! This is what we need! Can’t wait to ride the sunset limited or the Pacific Surfliner in one of these!!
Surfliner EMUs would be sick
Research LA-interubans , youl be interested to see how much they replaced those rusted catanery equipment
Beautiful trains!
Beautiful
A new train is nice, but what we really need are dedicated passenger lines for less delays and a more comfortable ride. Especially on the west coast.
they look great!
and would look even better with some wires over them if ya know what i mean
Well, at least the Vectron lineage of the Chargers makes them very easily upgradeable to overhead catenary with a pantograph semi-permanently coupled car! In fact, Amtrak will actually run all of the new AIRO trains with that electrified setup whenever catenary power is available.
And if we decide to pay for nation-wide electrification, then it would be infinitely easy to just order more pantograph cars from Siemens and run all the Chargers on electric 100% of the time!
Technically, the Cummins engine that Siemens stuck in their European Vectron to make it an American Charger would be dead weight. But that extra weight is literally peanuts for a modern train.
We need more high-speed trains in this country
They're working on it
The seats MUST be as comfortable as the Amfleets, it signals people that they are on a train not a bus or plane. The Venture seats won't be good enough
The Venture seats are good enough on Brightline and on Railjet. Why wouldn't they be good enough on Amtrak? They're literally exactly the same coaches with the exact same seats!
@@TohaBgood2 My point stands for Brightline as well. Fine for commuter rail, but no further. The Amfleet seats are exceptional and are the standard we should hold the passanger rail experience to.
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Looks just like the German ICE trains, what took so long?
Well, these are made by the same manufacturer 😃
@@TohaBgood2 That's my point. We act as if they are something revolutionary.
@@craigurquhart5337 Sure, but they are revolutionary to us. We haven't had proper passenger rail in almost 60 years! Amtrak was set up as a vessel that would absorb all the failing at-the-time passenger lines. It was supposed to quietly die in 5-10 years and take all the passenger lines with it!
The fact that it staunchly refused to die, or rather that we refused to stop using it, is already a miracle. The fact that Amtrak has been growing pretty intensely over the last couple of decades and is now finally entering a modern era with proper modern trains is completely unprecedented.
This is literally the first full fleet refresh that Amtrak has ever had! And Amtrak is upgrading to the exact same equipment that highly acclaimed European lines like Railjet are using. This is incredible! These Siemens trains are also the open secret of Brightline's success. Amtrak is doing a lot of things right with this upgrade! They've hit it out of the park!
@@TohaBgood2 I agree with you the USA has a horrible train system. So glad Biden/Buttigieg finally have the funds to improve things.
I wish we had trains whipping around North America. I’d love to jump on one in Calgary Canada and head down to the states. I’m sure a lot of American would like it too
Sure wish Ohio had a north south Amtrak route to ride one on. One that had more than one train every other day. 😪
nice hope to see yall on the rails!
Nice!
Looks nice. I just hope they can decrease the delays. I've only taken Amtrak once like 20 years ago when I was a kid, & the delay was 4-5 hours which we could have driven to our destination by that time.
One of the biggest issues I’ve had the times I’ve ridden Amtrac is from having to wait for freight trains to pass. I know it probably won’t happen but dedicate passenger rail lines would be awesome. Especially on those long haul routes out west like the zephyr
If the lines could be nationalised and trains too long for sidings banned that would already allow passenger trains to have the right-of-way.
Idk why....I thought the thumb nail was a train in minecraft with that background. Just me? Lmao
Not quite a fan of this new livery, but *damn* those cabs look slick, and the interior looks awesome and comfortable.
Well I totally adore that paint scheme but that's totally fine, I still can't get over with it
Amtrak buying the same rolling stock as Railjet is just some kind of Voodoo magic science fiction to me! Still can't believe that we're getting these trains stateside!
Amtrak! $%## yeah! 😁
Are they coming to North Carolina too?? I would love to see it come by here
The Amtrak Airo should be traveling along the Washington State Puget Sound Waterfronts
They will be , the first sets to be delivered will be going to Washington/Oregon and will be painted in a special Cascades livery
As don’t forget they’re going to be traveling along in other Washington state cities & there’s gonna be a new station called Amtrak Airo Tacoma Station at the BNSF Tacoma Train Yard