Detective's Bi-Polar Daughter Overdoses on Hard Drugs | Law & Order SVU
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2024
- Detective Stabler’s Daughter is in trouble with the law, causing the detective to take a deep dive into his past.
Season 10, Episode 3 'Swing': A young woman is found trespassing in a family's home, and Detective Elliot Stabler (Chris Meloni) is called in to catch the intruder. The trespasser's wallet leads Stabler to a surprising suspect--his daughter, Kathleen Stabler (guest star Allison Siko). Detective Stabler is shocked to find his daughter has fallen in love with the kind of crowd he spends his days condemning. With his family life at stake, Stabler must decide how far he will go to save Kathleen, even turning to his estranged mother, Bernadette Stabler (guest star Ellen Burstyn), for help.
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Elliot growing up with a bi-polar mother and a stricted father must have been tough on him and his siblings. When Kathleen was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder, it caused the childhood memories with his mother to flood back.
"Hey Mom, if you're not too busy can you go down to the court to testify that we have a history of mental problems in our family? It's to save your granddaughter who inherited that trait."
Simplified but Elliot had some nerve to ask his mom to do that. Desperate sure but still harsh.
@@targetseeker Why nerve? It's something that is sometimes required, and Elliot never really hurt his mum.
@@watercolourferns iirc he rarely contacts his mom via phone then all of a sudden he shows up in her front porch to ask her to embarass herself in public (air her medical history in court to prove the family has a history of mental issues) while in the guise of saving her granddaughte (trying to guilt trip her into doing it rather than her testifying because of love). I understand why Elliot did it but it doesn't make the whole thing more palatable.
@@targetseeker you do know she almost killed him "chasing snowflakes" when he was 3 right? She was unmedicated, refused treatment, and made his life hell when he was little. There's a reason he had little to no contact with her. She owes him an apology, not the other way around. The least she could do what save her granddaughter. They reconnect later on when she got medicated and in treatment, but she was a shitty mother and he went No Contact for his own protection, and then his family's.
@@targetseeker you do know she almost killed him "chasing snowflakes" when he was 3 right? She was unmedicated, refused treatment, and made his life hell when he was little. There's a reason he had little to no contact with her. She owes him an apology, not the other way around. The least she could do what save her granddaughter. They reconnect later on when she got medicated and in treatment, but she was a shitty mother and he went No Contact for his own protection, and then his family's.
As a psych major, I really appreciate how well and accurate this episode represented bipolar disorder. It’s one of the hardest mental illnesses to treat.
this. I suffer from bipolar myself. everyone always thinks the depresive episodes are the worst part, you feel shitty for a while but then you get all happy. and don't get me wrong, its rough, but the mania is truly the worst of it. i could laugh off death during a manic episode. but you dont wanna even take the meds cuz that makes the happiness go away.
I didnt really learn how to deal with it until i got happy foreal, outside of the mania. lots of therapy and dozens of meds over the years (tho i found my right balance now).
someone who worked on this episode or the show in general definitely knows psych disorders or has experience with them
Can I ask what makes it so hard to treat? I'm curious.
@@snakebitepellehuepeople with bipolar disorder are more likely to be depressed, have anxiety disorders additional to substance abuse
@@snakebitepellehue It is also hard to treat them because you need to treat two opposite symptoms - when treating mania, you are increasing feelings of sadness; when treating depression, you are provoking a new rush of mania. Finding tiny line in medication doses and punctual regimes can take years to achieve. Additionally, patients don't like the feeling of sadness and depression so they tend to skip those medications and use only ones which make them "feel good" - eventually becoming resistant to doses and requiring stronger meds.... Or drugs. And finally, usually people with BiPD can go under the radar just as reckless and are diagnosed too late in life, when they are already resistant to the majority of meds or developed some addictions, etc.
As a fellow psych major, I agree. Aside from personality disorders, bipolar is one of the hardest. The mania/hypomania tends to contribute to medication non-compliance because who wants to feel like a zombie or be deprived of the high times? Mania is like cocaine, I’d love to be high on cocaine for days to weeks at a time, even if it was detrimental to my life.
Elliot’s mother truly killed me. She tried to forget what happened in the past. Her acting like a child at the beach made me cry.
Bipolar is one of the hardest psych conditions to treat. It’s awful to see how people suffer with it. You want to help so much but its almost impossible.
Yes it is. I was friends with a girl who was totally self aware that she needed help and just refused to get it. She had a long history of severe childhood abuse all the way up into her teen years on top of being bipolar, so she (understandably) didn’t trust anyone, but she was SO unwell.
This is such a goodrepresentation of severe bipolar. My cousin, who I adore, has been in jail numerous times for his loss of control of his mania and depression. My grandfather had it as well and was delusional at one point. I have borderline personality disorder so I didn’t escape the family curse, but definitely shook it up a bit 😅
Bipolar 1 in particular, since that’s mania with or without depression. Bipolar 2 is hypomanic with depression.
Boarderline personality disorder gang 💪🏻
@@Sniperboy5551correct. I have bipolar II so have never experienced full-blown mania but I’ve seen people with bipolar I during manic episodes, and it’s a lot like this.
I have complex PTSD and I’m a Psych major. Borderline seems like the most challenging disorder imo. I unfortunately have not had good experiences with borderline individuals, but I sympathize because it appears their behavior was part of how the disorder warps the mind. The individuals I knew were highly manipulative. From the start you’re their best friend, even though you just met them. Then the moment you demonstrate boundaries (i.e first time you say no), they see you as their enemy. I have watched that switch happen in an instant. It was honestly really scary. Going from “you’re the best, we’re literally family” to “f*ck you I hope you die in a car accident!!” In less than 10 minutes. It’s like this “get them before they get me” attitude, as well as an extreme “everyone loves me or everyone hates me” swinging pendulum. Think Trisha Paytas on Frenemies if you’ve seen those clips. That just has to be exhausting. Like being stuck on a miserable ride. I’m sure I’ve met more individuals who I didn’t know were bpd. These are just the ones who were open about their diagnosis.
I would love to know from the perspective of individuals with bpd, how could I be a better friend / colleague to these individuals on the more severe side? Is there any way to prevent these escalations or show that I’m genuinely trying to be kind? It feels like no matter what I do, it’s seen as an attack. I’m neurodivergent as well, and I’ve tried to open with that as kind of a disclaimer but it’s not always received well either.
@@emilymaier9713Borderline Personality Disorder is NOT the same thing as Bipolar. They are two completely different disorders
My mother was a bipolar schizophrenic. This episode doesn’t deal with schizophrenia but God does this episode hit home for me. Even all these years later, I still recall this episode the most.
😢
My ex husband had schizophrenia I have bipolar I feel your pain I know I can be crazy
Stabler calling the "suspect" a whack job until he finds out it's his own daughter. 🤣Then he tries to play it off with the parents saying "it's just a college kid behaving badly".🙄The nut doesn't fall far from the tree it seems. 😜
Of course. But it speaks volumes to how it works IRL, until they are held accountable by public scrutiny.
Otherwise it's always swept under the rug.
He only cared about the way things work once it was his daughter. Brakes all his own rules if it’s him who is affected
In an earlier episode he got her off of a DUI too, he does not like his kids taking responsabilty when they are in the wrong lol
Exactly!
I hope you’d defend your own kids like that, I know I would
It horrible when you think your brain won't cause problems, but then without realising it, it does something that your unaware of.
"She wants to lock me up!" >:(
"No, *they* do."
"Fine." :)
she probably just thinks the cops are hot (hyper-sexuality is a symptom of BPD)
It's such a terrifying thing to imagine, being way up or way down with no solid middle ground. I don't think I'd have the fortitude to life like that.
It's an extremely terrifying reality for millions. And it's a life struggle. When someone who has no "normal" and then when they get medicated......they always say they feel so dead inside, like the walking dead. Those with bipolar disorder have a very different struggle marred by cycling for years of getting off medication and then using illicit drugs to "feel alive" again. It's so hard.
It’s not easy. Trust me.
That's what meds are for.
It’s an extremely difficult illness, speaking from experience. Meds can help but they’re not a cure by any means.
@@foolslayer9416no it isn’t. It doesn’t give you a middle ground. It makes you unable to feel anything which is basically the same as always being down
“Grandma, do you think I’m crazy?”
I hate that question with a passion cause of how hard it hits. And it HITS HARD. Almost hits home.
Elliott mother is bio polar, so his daughter had the same it's in her DNA. Really sad 😔
lots of mental illnesses have a heritable component. i have major depressive disorder, and my son was diagnosed with depression last fall. everyone tells you not to kys because then you'll pass it on to your kids but no one tells you you're passing it on to them even if you stay alive.
It's hard especially when you love someone an you wanna help them but at the end you fail again again again
I married someone who had very very severe bipolar disorder
Ellen Burstyn is such a great actress.
She Is a great, great actress 👌💜
As someone who is bipolar and is now medicated, the resemblance and acting in this episode hit the nail on the head
For once we are not looked at like nut jobs.
My only quip about this is that the defense lawyer for Kathleen said BPD when referring to Bipolar. Borderline Personality Disorder and Bipolar Disorder are two completely different disorders. The biggest difference being that BPD is a personality disorder (hence the name), and Bipolar is a mood disorder. One often gets misdiagnosed as the other due to overlapping symptoms, but it's so important to distinguish between the two.
Yes it really bothers me!
You have you remember that this was in early 2000s. At that time, they used to call Bipolar Disorder as BPD.
@victoriaraine No they didn't, they were two separate things in the DSM back then as they are now.
If this is something that bothers you, ya need to get a grip, it's not a documentary it ain't a big deal
@@user-ii8oy3qg2t it kinda is, but I wouldn't expect people like you to care
This episode has always been a favorite of . Chris Meloni gives one of his best performances of the whole series as Elliot and there are two great guest performances:. Allison Siko's finest hour as daughter Kathleen,and stellar Emmy winning work by the great Ellen Bursty.n as Elliot's mom Bernie !!!
If Grey's Anatomy does another flashback of Ellis Grey's younger years, they need to cast Allison Siko to play young Ellis, since you does look like a young Kate Burton.
That intro is really intense
Nah it sucked bad. Real bad 😠😨
@lennarthagen3638 it reminds of 911 lone star how the son’s dad thought the his son was a intruder
Even as someone unable to relate to bipolar disorder, this episode is so compelling to watch, and seeing all the people talk about how accurately it portrays the disorder makes me even happier to call this one of my favorite episodes of the show’s history despite the unusual format!
"Maybe God remembered how cute you were as a carrot"
Thanks for the quote! I was 99% positive it was in this episode.
@christybradfield7812 It was! Olivia meets up with Elliot's mother, and they look through an old photo album together in which there was a photo of little Elliot Stabler dressed up for his Thanksgiving Day Parade as a carrot 🥕. It's led to believe that Olivia convinced her to confirm the family's history of bipolar disorder and got her to talk with Kathleen.
Too intense for Eliott, his fear to see one of his kids suffering bipolarity was a reality (Tengan en cuenta que casi la bipolaridad de su madre casi acaba con su vida)
they should get awards for acting bi polar that is very hard to act i dont think i cant do that and i have my own issues myself thats impossible to due that was very intense to as well to watch
This is like another kicked in the balls for Stabler because first his wife divorces him and now of his daughters is mentally ill and his temper and ego pride won't let him accept it until the very end when amazing actress Ellen Burstyn who is also Bi-Polar must confess her dark past to Olivia.
They didn't divorce, but his wife did file for divorce.
@@partyguy101ify That's right they separated but they got back together and this sure didn't help but at least Kathleen got help and now on Law and Order Organized Crime Kathleen is doing much better I mean I hope.
My dad is bipolar he was diagnosed when he was 14 but despite that he has always been the greatest dad I could’ve ever asked for just because you have a mental disorder doesn’t mean you can’t be a great person and a great parent
Sometimes people don’t get the right treatment for their issues and sometimes it is just too severe to be treated so sometimes having a mental disorder actually DOES mean that
One of my friends is the most cool, level-headed, and wisest of my friends. I never saw him loose his temper, and he's usually the one we turn to for advice. So it came as a shock to me when he disclosed he was bipolar. He was far removed from the usual manic, hyperactive and violent depictions I saw on screen. I asked him how he managed to remain himself and he said constantly taking medication and a great support system. So yeah, I do believe that it doesn't stop you from being a great person nor an excuse for deviancy. Unfortunately, not everyone is lucky to even get a doctor to diagnose them.
For all of L&O’s faults, this is a really good portrayal of unmedicated bipolar I. A former friend of mine also has it and no matter how much I tried to get her help, she always refused it. Eventually I had to end the friendship for my own mental well-being because it was like babysitting. She was constantly doing stuff exactly like this during manic episodes. One time she even intentionally crashed her car. The police in our town are very familiar with her, it’s sad.
Same. Except my friend lost custody of her son, got pregnant again & just had her baby a week ago & they took that baby too.
This is so sad, I’m almost completely sure my sister is bi-polar so seeing how the mother was acting and how Elliot expressed what he went through resonated with me, my sister is also so happy and then she goes overly crazy and starts screaming about everything and wishing we would die because everything did go how she wished.
I know it’s a serious situation, but that slap gets me every time.
It's who you're related to as well as who you know. Maybe Elliot shouldn't even be on this case. Cops' kids are expected to be held to a much higher standard.
One hundred percent no cop office would let a lot investigate a family case especially their kid
Yeah, Liv did a solid for Elliot by telling him his kid was involved, but the entire unit failed when they allowed him to talk to the victims or interfere with the investigation.
@@MMuraseofSandvich Stabler following any rules has never been his thing, no matter how much he interferes. 😑 Even now on OC he's the exact same way. 🤣
No. Same standard as everyone else. No more, no less. But Elliot should've been off the case.
Ellen Burstyn is a phenomenal actress and episode is so important to bring awareness of mental illness.
This was one of the best SVU episodes ever. Always loved Stabler and his love for his kids❤
In the finale of season 7 episode "Influence" Brittany Snow plays Jamie Hoskins who is Bi-Polar who didn't take her medication and mowed down a bunch of people that resulted in the death of a young girl Casey Novak was very strong adamant advocate of mental illness due to her personal tragic connection in her past so if Casey Novak was in this episode "Swing" she would definitely help Stabler's daughter out.
My mom is an addict and bipolar it was fucking rough growing up raising my brother and having to take care of her. She tried killing herself twice. I figured it out by the second time and got her on medication. Shes ten years sober and doing so great now. I tell her how proud of her I am of her all the time!
The guy at the beginning, if you are going to act like a concerned man handling an intruder, act like it; that acting was so stall.
I mean… threat assessment, some girl nude in your shower versus a grown man prowling around your house with something that could be used as a weapon. Getting big and angry and firmly stating “Get out of my house right now,” seems appropriate opening volley for the former versus getting a firearm.
@@elizabethperry2622He wasn't criticizing the actual reaction but the acting of the actor. It was some of the worst acting in the show.
Biggest takeaway- even in cop shows, cops want to sweep things under the bus.
Ellen Burstyn as Elliots mother. She is SUCH a fantastic actress💜
My younger brother is diagnosed bpd. His 20s were horrific, he started exhibiting signs in his late teens, but everyone dismissed it as rebellious teen antics. I tried to tell them there was something going on, but I was just a college kid. When I had to commit him the first time... it was so hard. He's in his 30s now and still unmedicated. The difference is that now he admitts that yeah, he might have bpd.
BPD =/= Bipolar. Bipolar is BP, while BPD is Borderline Personality Disorder, they're very misdiagnosed one for the other, tho.
Having to live with Bipolar Disorder is extremely hard but is the reality for so many people. And it's a daily, minute to minute struggle. When someone who has no "normal" and then when they get medicated......the responses that each of them have said they feel so dead inside. like the walking dead. A medication regimen will consists of very loosely, a med to get them come down and another to keep them from falling into a deep depression.This is a very generalized plan. Each individual has their own personalized care. Those with bipolar disorder have a very complex struggle marred by cycling for years and also getting on and off medication bc of the real life side effects but also how it makes them feel. Some not all unfortunately turn to using illicit drugs to "feel alive" again. It's so hard. Its also hard to watch a loved one or anyone you care about struggle as well.
5:00 note: bpd stands for borderline personality disorder, not bipolar disorder. the two are different.
This hits so close to home. The hardest part of having a loved one go through mental illness is that, by definition, they aren't thinking clearly or making good decisions about their care. Hopefully they can lean on and trust the people around them who love them to help them make good choices. 😪💔❤
A lot of mental disorders are hereditary. We don't have bipolar in our family but Depression, Anxiety, and likely ADHD and ADD. My dad has depression and PTSD, my mom hasn't been diagnosed but we suspect ADHD and anxiety, my older brother likely has ADD, and I've been diagnosed with Depression and an Anxiety disorder. I know my parents were hoping for it to be different for us, but when I started showing symptoms it's like all their worst fears are realized. Ill never forget how destroyed and guilty my dad looked when he thought he'd given me depression
The best you can do considering this is television. Seeing how families, friends, and yes even co-workers have to deal with the fallout. Some of the greatest minds are also a big mess. While a blessing of the genius sometimes the untended consequence of the blessing. A big thanks to the person(s) who posted this clip. I am sure it will help those who are unaware and aware.
It's crazy that this is one of my fav episodes. I was diagnosed bipolar last week(I'm late 20s). Everything finally makes sense. I refused to believe I was ill🥲
Great show!!
Liv always had Stabler and his family’s back ❤
i suffer with bipolar 2 and i feel like this episode accurately represents this illness. makes me sad whenever i realize that im rlly gonna suffer with this the rest of my life
exactly:(
Elliot is such a hypocrite
I hate it when parents protect their kids from the consequences. If the consequences hurt, it means they're supposed to.
@@foolslayer9416he knows her mental state is bad and he wants to get her help
He’s hypocritical but let’s face it. If it was your baby girl suffering from mental illness who was about to be sent to jail, wouldn’t you step in? Wouldn’t you try to save them from themselves and the mistakes they made when they were out of their mind? I think any good parent would at least consider intervening. He’s hypocritical when it comes to his family, but I think that adds to the complexity of his character.
It’s a complicated situation. Yeah, he tried to get the homeowners to back down, but it’s his mentally ill daughter. He had to try to protect his daughter.
@@foolslayer9416 A parent's first instinct is to protect their child. If you kid was suffering from a mental illness and was facing life behind bars, you'd send her away without batting an eye?
Can we talk abt olivia bein there for Elliot 🤍
Elliot Stabler is a boss 👌💪💪. In regards to the bipolar disorder, this episode is a perfect depiction of the disorder.
VERY good representation of bipolar disorder! I grew up with a mother who had a very severe case of it. Then my son was born with it and his was so bad, he was hospitalized at age 4 at UCLA's pediatric neuropsychiatric inpatient ward for a month- the first time a child that young was ever admitted (they usually didn't accept until age 7). There's nothing worse than seeing your loved ones suffer, knowing nothing can be done, and not be able to help, *especially* when it's your child.
For a stable, This was a very crucial moment in his life, Between the job and His family, This definitely pushed him to the edge.
Swing, one of my fav episodes, and the episode where we first meet Bernie.❤
This hits so close to home for me. My oldest son is a teenager and his bipolar started showing and it hasn’t been real bad yet but he refuses to take the medication to prevent any serious situations from happening. My ex husbands brother has bipolar disorder and I remember us all going to a club called “Reggae on the Roof” like in the name it’s roof top club with fire 🔥 pits amazing music and lounge couches, well this particular night my BIL gets up is looking kind of crazy in the face like out of it. He is staring out not in the sky but over the rooftop ledge and starts trying to catch things in the air, I told my husband to look at him and asked what’s going on? Within a few seconds after that he starts running and tried to jump off the ledge of the club and my husband had grabbed him just in time or it would have ended in tragedy for him.
My sister and her ex boyfriend also have bipolar disorder my sisters is more low mania and severe depression but her ex boyfriend had manic episodes where he jumped out her bedroom window on the 2nd story of our house broke his arm. Another time he had gotten so out of his mind he In front of my then 16 yr old sister cut his thumb off with a machete. My Aunt has it and her hyper sexuality, severe drug addictions and doing a lot of other illegal activities getting herself into major trouble and put in prison many time. My Grandma has it and I remember when my grandpa told her if she ever got off her meds again he is divorcing her, when I asked why he said one morning after she went 2 months refusing to take the medication, she woke up told him she had a dream where she went grabbed an axe 🪓 and murmured him with it and chopped up his body with it.
Bipolar disorder is so serious when my teen son was diagnosed I thought I was going to have a panic attack because of all the craziness I’ve seen and heard within my own circle with bipolar disorder.
I have bipolar disorder and I see myself in her💔it’s not as severe but god can it get that way quick..I watched this years ago but didn’t have bipolar at the time sad seeing this again
Ellen is fantastic as usual!
Wow! Another Great performance! by this cast. I love this show!
U can really see how mental illness really effects not only the person but the whole family. Some people that suffer r not as lucky to have a supportive understanding family. As a MH Therapist I see this a lot!!
A show on a person who is Narcissistic would be GREAT!
Such great acting on this show!!!!!
Love you guys ❤
Good episode
One of my favorites ❤!
Elliot should not have been involved in the investigation. He was clearly showing bias.
It's his daughter!!! Kathleen wasn't being careful on the people she hung out with
@@geldan1997 Elliot was abusing his position and covering up for Kathleen. Would he have covered up for a layman? Everyone's a whack-up unless it is your daughter. That is why he should thrown out of the investigation.
@angieakasara That's true. Although I do remember Kathleen stole something from that house and Elliott admitted it
Love you guys❤
Love this episode
One of the best of Law and Order
@@MrsDogLover yes
this was such a sad episode but ended on a good note. Love the Stablers and miss them being on the show
that lawyer calling bi-polar disorder 'BPD' is hella misleading bc bi-polar and bpd aren't even remotely the same thing. bi-polar is bi-polar disorder, borderline personality disorder is bpd.
- signed, someone with bpd
Seeing all of these comments makes me happy that the producers of SVU took the time to research bipolar disorders and present them on the tv screen authentically. The authenticity of issues like this helps present a realness that makes audiences connect with the characters. Representation truly matters.
It scares me that if I hadnt been diagnosed with my bi polar fairly early and get medicated that I might have become something similar to this. I can fully relate to all these feelings
My step-brother is bi-polar so this hits home for me like so many others in the comments. The flight of ideas, not fully in touch with reality, and being in a daze to just snapping into a full 180. It's all true and all too real.
If you stay on your medication and go to your Doctor and have a support system.Everything usually is fine, but it's when you think or feel that you don't need to take your meds.That's when everything falls apart
I felt bad for Elliot this episode.
First he had to deal with this as a kid then he has to go through it again this time as a father.
That’s such cruel twist of fate if ever Ive seen one.
1:16 that quote right there is the most relatable Fathery moment ever.
I was once in a relationship but she decided to hide her pain which I didn’t know was bipolar and we were together for three years. She decided to go off her meds, and it was like I was being her caretaker instead of being her girlfriend
As someone who has bipolar, solid example of 1. Depicting the effects it can have 2. The more important part, showing people CAN get help and can control it if they set their mind to it. They’re not a lost cause
I missed a few episodes along the way, and never saw this ADA before. Yet another gorgeous ADA, but she must have been gone quick because I didn’t miss that much.
ADA Kim Greylek, played by Michaela McManus. she was only in season 10 for the first 15 episodes before being replaced by a returning Alexandra Cabot(as played by Stephanie March)
yeah it was quick and they didn't even give her a proper exit.
hate how close this hits
A good friend of mine is bipolar, she doesn't behave anything like that.
It’s almost like it reacts differently for everyone.
Bipolar is a spectrum and affects people differently.
Oh, you mean you just realized that everyone acts differently even if they're diagnosed with the same thing?
5:02 BPD is NOT Bipolar Disorder! You'd think ma show as big as Law & Order would do 30 seconds of research ffs!🙄
Google says it is .
@@ashoikieramsay8282welp that cmt didn't wrong, BPD is also known as Borderline Personality Disorder
@@ericgarcia4041 Yet they are treating them both with the same meds . Really sad.
@@ashoikieramsay8282 we don't take lithium...
I got lucky that I admitted I was sick. The relief of admitting I was was more helpful, it kept me out of jail, trouble with finances, sexual mistakes and my doctors know my health management.
Bernie: Remember the time we took your grandfather's fedora to put on the snowman, and his last Cuban cigar?
Kathleen: Gramps was pretty pissed. I remember you told him to get stuffed.
Bernie: Well, I tried not to curse in front of you.
Kathleen: As if the F-bomb doesn't get dropped at my house a lot, especially at me.
This just goes to show you that mental illness runs in everybody family. It may skip over some, but it'll eventually get someone in the family sooner or later. And the worst part of it is that family members truly dont want to get help when they start showing symptoms!!
What sucked about me finally being diagnosed with bipolar was my mom and sister telling me to get a second opinion when the psychiatrist I saw was the third psychiatrist I've seen… the other two dismissed it, saying I have severe anxiety and moderate to severe depression…
Now that I'm finally on mood stabilizers, I'm able to sleep, and I’m not overly depressed or overly anxious.
I was told being on Zoloft is what caused the majority of my manic episodes.
My sister and my mom worry about it being on my record… after my diagnosis, they've treated me differently, almost like they are walking on eggshells… like they are somewhat ashamed that I’m bipolar.
man this was a very good episode, but its crazy how svu never mentioned about stabler’s brothers until they were introduced in oc
Ellen Burstyn is brilliant in this episode.
ahh yes a cops kid is exempt from criminal charges.
Nope
At the same time, this cop's kid wasn't in full control of her faculties because she had a severe and untreated mental illness, which calls into question how much she was "responsible" for her actions. And the law has adapted to this reality, that's why "defense by mental defect or illness" is a thing and why courts today would much rather have the mentally ill receive medical treatment rather than incarcerate them.
If you want to throw the mentally ill into prison with murderers and rapists, I think that speaks quite a bit about you.
@@MMuraseofSandvichmaybe its because she was let off the hook for a D.U.I thats why i am saying what im saying.
My boyfriend has a criminal record and his stepdad is a retired cop. They don’t get along with each other at all
This definetly was one of Elliot's most difficult moments in his life
This was really hard to watch. & I don’t even have bipolar or know anyone who has it
Best of episode of Elliot Stabler and later Elliot fight with is mentor
Look like Granny Stabler's just as nuts. Also, isn't it ironic that the actress playing Kathleen pronounces her last name (Siko) as psycho? No joke.
omfg why he beat her w da bat like dat 😭😭
You find some unknown person in your house, in your shower, with your wife and young child in the vicinity, I can’t say I wouldn’t have gone with the nuclear option myself. You have no idea who this person is or what they want, or if they might be a possible threat to your family.
@@dantependragon9895 that i also get, what i dont really get is the lack of sympathy after learning all the facts afterwards. the guy was a father as well but was hell bent on sending someone elses kid to prison for tripping balls. did set her straight though it seems so it was a happy ending sorta (also only seeing this clip but what caused the grand larceny charge?)
@@dantependragon9895 u right, but it was jus funny how he was doin it 😭😭
@@mister_snoogles9031 That may have to do with the shower curtain she took, while the burglary was about her entering the house uninvited. Though why it wasn’t breaking and entering, then larceny, is anyone’s guess.
@@mister_snoogles90313:02 she stole credit cards
I remember this episode. it was heavy stuff
Ellen Burstyn is incredibly underrated.
To be honest season 10-20 of SVU are powerful.
We don't deserve Ellen Burstyn, honestly. Phenomenal actress.
And the irony of his mom playing Shirley Stabler on the sitcom "Mom" (Bonnie's mom)
This confuses me this episode. I’ve watched SVU be terrible with representation for some Mental health issues. I was misdiagnosed as bipolar 2 for 5 years, and January this year I was correctly diagnosed with borderline. I tell this because the misrepresentation hurts to listen to. So when I watch this after seeing them get it wrong many years later in another season about a runner with bipolar and the way they act like meds fix you immediately shocks me.
This is the representation I wish I remembered when I was diagnosed. Not the other example. While I’m actually struggling with another disorder any representation of mental illness is so violently important to me. This hits me unlike many episodes. This hits me over the head and makes me feel seen.
Mama Stabler
Kim Greylek always looked funny in a good way.
I remember Liv was livid at Elliott for not telling her about his mother.
Mi abuelo (de parte de mamá) y mi papá eran bipolares y esquizofrenicos, mi abuelo desde joven pero mi papá lo desarrolló como a los 60 años y falleció con 62 años
Yo tengo ansiedad, tuve ataques de pánico y ansiedad, estoy medicada y si no tomo la medicación me pongo re inestable y me cuesta pensar coherentemente
Tambien tuve disociación de la personalidad tras un casi abuso
Es obvio que mi genetica dio una buena predisposición a todo esto, además de haber convivido con dos personas así desde chica
No están solos, acepten ayuda y permitanse salir adelante
This was hard for me as I was recently diagnosed as bipolar and coould never understand why i did things
My sister is bipolar, there’s no cure. These people live in prisons of their own mind and emotions. Very sad. I can’t even talk to her anymore
Hugging when you might not want it, is what got her in this mess….