Daemon is King consort and should be reffered to as your grace Simon just didn't know what to refer him as because he's the first king consort in westeros he's not undermining Rhaenyra.
Daemon should be referred as my prince as king consort. Your grace is reserved only for the queen or king. It can actually be seen as a sign of treason and him grasping on for his own claim.
@@Musegirl15 "Your Grace" is a historically used way to address King consorts, Prince consorts would be addressed as "prince". Daemon is very much on the same level of address as Rhaenyra would be, since the spouses of ruling kings were also referred to as a "queen consort" as opposed to a queen regent who is only ruling until an heir comes of age. When you refer to Daemon as prince you're not only addressing him below his station but you're inferring that Rhaenyra is not on the same level as a "king" or is not the true ruling monarch, since Daemon's form of address as "your grace" is only granted for so long as his spouse rules.
On the night Viserys died, when he was talking to Alicent -- he didn't even know it was Alicent he was speaking to. He may have thought it was Rhaenyra, and then Aemma. He was rambling about Aegon the Conqueror, who is who had the dream about the Song of Ice and Fire, and the Prince (or Princess) That Was Promised, who would save everyone from the Night King, and the Long Night. It's everything we already know -- what happened in a Game of Thrones. Viserys wasn't saying Aegon should be King. He was talking about Aegon the Conqueror's prophecy. Since Alicent didn't know anything about it, she filled in the gaps. It didn't matter anyway though, since Otto and others had already made plans to depose Rhaenyra the moment Viserys died, and install Aegon (Hightower) Targaryen as King. It was either a power grab, or the idea that a woman couldn't rule. Either way.
Yeah we understand that we just brought up how being Alicent you wouldn't know the Song of Ice and Fire so you would assume he meant your son. So you can't blame her in that thought process but then again she has went along with everything Otto has done so it doesn't leave her innocent. It's going to be crazy to see what goes on now since both her and Rhaenyra believe it's too late. It looks like war is inevitable!
It's not that Rhaena isn't allowed to have a dragon; it's that she hasn't claimed one. If she could claim Seasmoke, she could have Seasmoke. Or any other dragon that doesn't presently have a rider. Seasmoke may still be bonded to Laenor, but it's difficult to know, since we don't know if he's alive or not, or even what happens when a dragon's rider just up and leaves.
There are many dragons on the island. She either has tried to bond with them and they rejected her or she is too afraid to go to the dragons. After all, they may react aggressively to her. Even Vhagar didn't like her, or atleast liked Aemond a lot more.
When Baela smirked upon seeing the knights, you know Daemon genes kicked in 😂😂😂 I would've torched Crispin Cole before he got to the forest tho🤷♀️ Daemon is the king consort just like Alicent and Helena are queen consorts. Even since s1 Laenor was referred to as the future King consort, so No Daemon he isn't tweaking. Also, good catch, the girl that got smacked in the pub is indeed the servant girl whom Aegon graped in S1, I swear the dude in the grey T-shirt is the first reactor to catch it.
I believe they mean being called "your grace" instead of "my prince" I've noticed most Americans understandably don't know much about the difference in what your addressed as but only the King or Queen in charge is referred to or addressed by their subjects as "your grace" alone, consorts are referred to as "my queen" or "my prince" always. By Daemon demanding of Simon to refer to him as "your grace" he is putting himself at the same level as his ruling queen rather then below her as a consort which is contradictory to being a consort.
baela's dragon is called Moondancer and that girl is better than me cuz i would burn that whole forest down to get ser crispin ps: that was the girl aegon s.a.. pretty sure her name is dyana
Burning down the forests wouldn’t look good for Rhaenrya and her image. People already she’s killing babies and then they’d think she’s going for some scorched earth shit, she also needs the support of the houses on those lands
I (Sheim) knew that was her! but Moondancer looks crazy and I totally agree with you lol F what Rhaenyra told me I would have been another reason we went to war🤣
Rhaena's egg never hatched but she could have tried to claim any of those dragons strolling around dragonstone. I'd have been had a dragon. So, hush and go protect your brother-cousins
Aegon the conqueror was the Targaryen that conquered the 7 kingdoms and created the iron throne. He had visions of the “song of ice and fire”. So he was referring to him and thought he was speaking to Rhenyra but was on milk of the poppy and also about to die
So glad that you thought guys thought that the scene was needed. I thought it was needed as well but a lot of people have been complaining about it. I think it added the contecxts that we knew and Rhaenyra needed. Also it finally allowed Rhaenyra to make the decision to go to war to claim her rightful throne.
2:26 not Ser Davos' people, it is just name; like how if you meet a dude named John he is probably not connected to another dude named John 200 years later
Luke died at Stroms End.. the castle belongs to House Baratheon. Harrenhal was the biggest castle in the 7 Kingdoms, built by House Hoare. It was destroyed by dragon fire from Aegon the Conqueror and his dragon the Black Dred.
You've actually seen Harrenhal in GOT season 2. When Aryia gets captured and taken to castle Harrenhal, they were torturing people with rats, and Ayria become Tywin Lannister's cupbearer disguised as a boy. That's the same place Daemon is at
Love the way you guys actually have an open view about the show and the motives/reasons of the characters, and that you are not biased towards any team, you guys are great, always looking forward to your reactions, the next episode is big, Game of thrones level of big, so be ready 😅🤩
The song of ice and fire is about Jon Snow. Jon is the prince that’s promised. It’s about fighting the White Walkers. Not about Rheanarya’s son. It’s a prophecy. The prophecy is told to every Targaryen heir. Only the kings know about it
What sucks is that I dont think Alicent even has enough sway to stop any of this anymore. Aegon doesn't listen to her anymore anyways and that council would just send her to the goddamn looney bin if she started saying shit like "oh damn I talked to Rhaenyra and it turns out the king didnt change his mind about his heir oops" LMAO
No, it's not Rhaenaya's AEGON, It's Aegon the Conqueror .. The Targargeyens use this name a lot Because of Aegon the Conqueror I think from memory ( looking at the Targaryen family tree) there are 7 or 8 Aegons in total (inc Jon Snow) .. There is actually an Aegon before Alicent son king at the moment he was a 3rd or 4th son and he didn't become anything and most Kings get the title like 1st of his name or 2nd of his name and so on
I’m so sick of this peace talk bs Queen Rhae Rhae need to realize she’s at war! Ain’t no talking after you killed my kid. Daemon not getting the fight he wanted a Harrenhal was hilarious. Baela rides moondancer & I wish she didn’t engage & just scouted like she was suppose to. Aegon terrible for publicly disrespecting Aemond in that brothel after saying he was his closest blood & best sword. Rhaena also needs to get over it she can’t fight & she doesn’t have a dragon. Wtf can she do if she stay? She needs to help anyway she can. It wasn’t smart for Rhaenyra to go to KL ppl just been sneaking around these last few episodes & failing. It’s time for the black queen to be at war her knowing her father never changed his mind hopefully lit that fire in her! Edit: It’s Aegon the conqueror’s dream! Not about a Aegon but the conqueror united the 7 kingdoms because he had a dream about the white walkers coming. It’s a prophecy cause Targs have dragon dreams like Viserys & Heleana! It’s only told to their heir! Viserys thought he was talking to Rhaenyra & he said she was the one to unite the realm to Alicent. Like they said in GOT that noun has no gender so the correct translation is the prince/princess who was promised will defeat the dead.
That’s true BUT i (Swizz) feels that it was necessary to clear the air & speak. If it were my best friend growing up, i personally would to try to, like she said, try to find a better path before going to war knowing one side will be completely wiped out.
Daemon is King consort and should be reffered to as your grace Simon just didn't know what to refer him as because he's the first king consort in westeros he's not undermining Rhaenyra.
Daemon should be referred as my prince as king consort. Your grace is reserved only for the queen or king. It can actually be seen as a sign of treason and him grasping on for his own claim.
show me where it is written in the books or stated in the show that a "King Consort" should be identified as "Your Grace"
@@Musegirl15what about Allicent? she was queen consort to Viserys and she is now queen mother to Aegon and she's been always addressed as your grace.
@@Musegirl15 "Your Grace" is a historically used way to address King consorts, Prince consorts would be addressed as "prince". Daemon is very much on the same level of address as Rhaenyra would be, since the spouses of ruling kings were also referred to as a "queen consort" as opposed to a queen regent who is only ruling until an heir comes of age. When you refer to Daemon as prince you're not only addressing him below his station but you're inferring that Rhaenyra is not on the same level as a "king" or is not the true ruling monarch, since Daemon's form of address as "your grace" is only granted for so long as his spouse rules.
Daemon is your Grace the same as Allicent, Aemma, Cersei, Etc.
Baela is her father’s daughter. 💪
100% we got a glimpse of it this episode🔥
On the night Viserys died, when he was talking to Alicent -- he didn't even know it was Alicent he was speaking to. He may have thought it was Rhaenyra, and then Aemma. He was rambling about Aegon the Conqueror, who is who had the dream about the Song of Ice and Fire, and the Prince (or Princess) That Was Promised, who would save everyone from the Night King, and the Long Night. It's everything we already know -- what happened in a Game of Thrones.
Viserys wasn't saying Aegon should be King. He was talking about Aegon the Conqueror's prophecy. Since Alicent didn't know anything about it, she filled in the gaps.
It didn't matter anyway though, since Otto and others had already made plans to depose Rhaenyra the moment Viserys died, and install Aegon (Hightower) Targaryen as King. It was either a power grab, or the idea that a woman couldn't rule. Either way.
Yeah we understand that we just brought up how being Alicent you wouldn't know the Song of Ice and Fire so you would assume he meant your son. So you can't blame her in that thought process but then again she has went along with everything Otto has done so it doesn't leave her innocent. It's going to be crazy to see what goes on now since both her and Rhaenyra believe it's too late. It looks like war is inevitable!
@@DaKidsReact She thought Viserys changed his mind and knew the blacks wouldn't believe her so she had no choice but to follow Otto's lead.
It's not that Rhaena isn't allowed to have a dragon; it's that she hasn't claimed one. If she could claim Seasmoke, she could have Seasmoke. Or any other dragon that doesn't presently have a rider. Seasmoke may still be bonded to Laenor, but it's difficult to know, since we don't know if he's alive or not, or even what happens when a dragon's rider just up and leaves.
There are many dragons on the island. She either has tried to bond with them and they rejected her or she is too afraid to go to the dragons. After all, they may react aggressively to her. Even Vhagar didn't like her, or atleast liked Aemond a lot more.
When Baela smirked upon seeing the knights, you know Daemon genes kicked in 😂😂😂 I would've torched Crispin Cole before he got to the forest tho🤷♀️
Daemon is the king consort just like Alicent and Helena are queen consorts. Even since s1 Laenor was referred to as the future King consort, so No Daemon he isn't tweaking.
Also, good catch, the girl that got smacked in the pub is indeed the servant girl whom Aegon graped in S1, I swear the dude in the grey T-shirt is the first reactor to catch it.
I believe they mean being called "your grace" instead of "my prince" I've noticed most Americans understandably don't know much about the difference in what your addressed as but only the King or Queen in charge is referred to or addressed by their subjects as "your grace" alone, consorts are referred to as "my queen" or "my prince" always. By Daemon demanding of Simon to refer to him as "your grace" he is putting himself at the same level as his ruling queen rather then below her as a consort which is contradictory to being a consort.
baela's dragon is called Moondancer and that girl is better than me cuz i would burn that whole forest down to get ser crispin
ps: that was the girl aegon s.a.. pretty sure her name is dyana
Burning down the forests wouldn’t look good for Rhaenrya and her image. People already she’s killing babies and then they’d think she’s going for some scorched earth shit, she also needs the support of the houses on those lands
I (Sheim) knew that was her! but Moondancer looks crazy and I totally agree with you lol F what Rhaenyra told me I would have been another reason we went to war🤣
I read a theory that Laenor may now actually be dead and that's why seasmoke is restless.
Makes a lot of sense, right!?
That was my first thought. The dragon bond has been broken now.
It seems as Aegon the Conqueror’s dream was about the prince to be promised to unite the realm…Aegon Targaryen aka Jon Snow.
😦😦
Rhaena's egg never hatched but she could have tried to claim any of those dragons strolling around dragonstone. I'd have been had a dragon. So, hush and go protect your brother-cousins
Lmao she’s not built for battle anyway so like you said hush and go 😂
@@DaKidsReact she wants to fight so bad she not built for it like Baela is
Aegon the conqueror was the Targaryen that conquered the 7 kingdoms and created the iron throne. He had visions of the “song of ice and fire”. So he was referring to him and thought he was speaking to Rhenyra but was on milk of the poppy and also about to die
22:26 I love how quickly he changed his tune LOL
So glad that you thought guys thought that the scene was needed. I thought it was needed as well but a lot of people have been complaining about it. I think it added the contecxts that we knew and Rhaenyra needed.
Also it finally allowed Rhaenyra to make the decision to go to war to claim her rightful throne.
baela the brave 💪🏻
Baela the beast! 😂
That definitely was the girl Aegon did you know what to in the first season. First channel I’ve seen spot this!
We were locked in lol can't wait for the next episode!
2:26 not Ser Davos' people, it is just name; like how if you meet a dude named John he is probably not connected to another dude named John 200 years later
Yes that the girl that Aegon…..
Yep. Poor Dyana.
Luke died at Stroms End.. the castle belongs to House Baratheon. Harrenhal was the biggest castle in the 7 Kingdoms, built by House Hoare. It was destroyed by dragon fire from Aegon the Conqueror and his dragon the Black Dred.
You've actually seen Harrenhal in GOT season 2. When Aryia gets captured and taken to castle Harrenhal, they were torturing people with rats, and Ayria become Tywin Lannister's cupbearer disguised as a boy. That's the same place Daemon is at
Love the way you guys actually have an open view about the show and the motives/reasons of the characters, and that you are not biased towards any team, you guys are great, always looking forward to your reactions, the next episode is big, Game of thrones level of big, so be ready 😅🤩
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Luke went to Storms End. Daemon went to Harrenhal.
The song of ice and fire is about Jon Snow. Jon is the prince that’s promised. It’s about fighting the White Walkers. Not about Rheanarya’s son. It’s a prophecy. The prophecy is told to every Targaryen heir. Only the kings know about it
What sucks is that I dont think Alicent even has enough sway to stop any of this anymore. Aegon doesn't listen to her anymore anyways and that council would just send her to the goddamn looney bin if she started saying shit like "oh damn I talked to Rhaenyra and it turns out the king didnt change his mind about his heir oops" LMAO
No, it's not Rhaenaya's AEGON, It's Aegon the Conqueror .. The Targargeyens use this name a lot Because of Aegon the Conqueror I think from memory ( looking at the Targaryen family tree) there are 7 or 8 Aegons in total (inc Jon Snow) .. There is actually an Aegon before Alicent son king at the moment he was a 3rd or 4th son and he didn't become anything and most Kings get the title like 1st of his name or 2nd of his name and so on
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I’m so sick of this peace talk bs Queen Rhae Rhae need to realize she’s at war! Ain’t no talking after you killed my kid. Daemon not getting the fight he wanted a Harrenhal was hilarious. Baela rides moondancer & I wish she didn’t engage & just scouted like she was suppose to. Aegon terrible for publicly disrespecting Aemond in that brothel after saying he was his closest blood & best sword. Rhaena also needs to get over it she can’t fight & she doesn’t have a dragon. Wtf can she do if she stay? She needs to help anyway she can. It wasn’t smart for Rhaenyra to go to KL ppl just been sneaking around these last few episodes & failing. It’s time for the black queen to be at war her knowing her father never changed his mind hopefully lit that fire in her!
Edit: It’s Aegon the conqueror’s dream! Not about a Aegon but the conqueror united the 7 kingdoms because he had a dream about the white walkers coming. It’s a prophecy cause Targs have dragon dreams like Viserys & Heleana! It’s only told to their heir! Viserys thought he was talking to Rhaenyra & he said she was the one to unite the realm to Alicent. Like they said in GOT that noun has no gender so the correct translation is the prince/princess who was promised will defeat the dead.
Why go to kings landing to speak to a powerless woman, she isn’t even the queen anymore.
That’s true BUT i (Swizz) feels that it was necessary to clear the air & speak. If it were my best friend growing up, i personally would to try to, like she said, try to find a better path before going to war knowing one side will be completely wiped out.