It amazes me that people buy these things. The old WIlliams/Bally games were high quality items whilst Stern pinballs resemble cheap toys . As for people saying they aren't going to make any more of table X, do these people remember Beanie Babys?
Tell me you don't play stern games without telling me you don't play stern games. New Stern games from Elwin, Jack Danger, etc have flow you'd NEVER see in a Williams game. Gotta appreciate the designs coming out from the designers of today.
Nirvana is probably a licensing issue. But to be fair, Foo Fighters has been doing stadium tours for 20 years, they are one of the few big rock bands still around.
No because Nirvana is owned by a license company. Stern is probably just too cheap to pay for the license. Instead you get FOO FIGHTERS... but had they licensed Nirvana they would have sold probalby 5x more machines.
The exact same foo fighters pin, if it had nirvana music instead of foo fighters, I would have bought it. I don't want to listen to foo fighters any more than its already played on the radio.
foo fighters have NEVER done a stadium tour. Stadium tours are reserved for bands like Metallica or Taylor Swift. Foo Fighters aren't even close to that level. If you're talking about they're one band of 20 bands that isn't a stadium tour. Foo Fighters aren't that popular just saying... NIRVANA would be sell it before you see it.
I got to play foo fighters at an arcade and at a show. I played about 20+ games. I couldn't hear a dang thing because of the ambient noise. Loved the pin, loved the layout, the art, etc. My kids liked the game too. Still the thought of having to listen to foofighters on repeat has me irked. I hope that I can set the music attenuation so that I cannot hear it and just turn on spotify.
Had some good takes. Until you said do Nirvana instead of Foo Fighters. Also Gomez already confirmed that the lack of guns on John Wick was the studio. Love the idea of a Three Stooges pinball machine. That would be great!
First off... I could care less what George Gomez said do you think that is true? Lionsgate makes FOUR MOVIES about John Wick where he kills over 1000 people with GUNS and they tell Stern no guns. You really believe this? Secondly, Nirvana as a collectable is probably worth 50X what Foo Fighters is worth. In terms of fans, album sales, t-shirts, to everything between you couldn't compare Foo Fighters and Nirvana EVER! You're trying to compare a grape to a watermelon. Here is the deal and the point you're missing... yes I get it you like the Foo Fighters, but that doesn't mean its a good title. If your goal is to sell 5000 machines, 10,000 machines you don't pick Foo Fighters, you don't pick Rush, you don't pick Venom or John Wick... you pick Diehard, Caddyshack, Nirvana, Michael Jackson, Prince, you just don't pick fringe themes.
First off I don't believe what Gomez said that was just an easy out... if I licensed John Wick and the studio said yeah but no guns I would skip the license. That didn't happen. Secondly, are you serious Foo Fighters aren't 1/100th as popular as Nirvana. Its not even close. Go into any Walmart - Target - Spencers you will never see a FOO FIGhTERS shirt for sale yet they'll have multiple versions of Nirvana. You look on spotify, youtube, album sales, it doesn't matter its like comparing a grape to a watermelon. Please!
@@Hauntworld Listening to foo fighters, its hard to believe Dave Grohl was the Nirvana drummer. Not only are they different genres, they are different levels.
Rumor has it that Pokemon is on the docket as a possible future Stern game. If they ever release that, assuming the game itself is solid, I guarantee you it would become their best-selling pin over the past decade by a _colossal_ margin, both in terms of collector purchases and on-location revenue. That's a theme that has near universal appeal, plus it's the perfect way to get the young'uns into pinball. Kids aren't going to give something like Jaws, 007, or Rush a second glance, but I guarantee you'll have a crowd of 'em around a Pokemon pin. That's been a serious concern of mine with modern-day Stern: their current demographic isn't going to be around forever, and who's gonna replace them if you haven't been getting the next generation into pinball? You want the industry to crash again? Because that's how you get the industry to crash again.
I feel like if they really wanna bring in a more millennial and early Gen Z crowd, they could make pinball tables based on bands like Weezer and Gorillaz; or, If they’re crazy enough, they could just come up with a Hatsune Miku pinball machine.
Good video but whoever owns all those pinball games and toppers is part of the problem. Why? because they bought all this overpriced stuff in the first place. That gave stern the go-ahead to jack up prices even more... which brings us to where we are today.
If I was buying for myself I would NOT buy those titles... I have a pincade that sells booze. I buy all the new games for on location, there is a difference. Home sales are what is way down because the theme and the price don't match up.
@@Hauntworld truthfully I think purchasing any LE brand new for the home doesn’t make sense. Buying for a business does when you can use it as a business expense for your tax filing. If you want the full playfield experience, premium is the way to go… unless LE art work speaks to you.. then just wait for price to go down. However, I don’t necessarily agree with some of your theme points .. I think the themes are fine. If they released something different.. people still would have asked for XYZ. If Stern came out with BTTF… folks who don’t care for that theme would have asked “why not blah blah”. I like BTTF but I actually don’t care about a pinball machine for it
@@Hauntworld yeah but you're buying the $2,000 toppers that you're complaining about cost too much money! Lol. You're part of the problem unfortunately! You got a great place there and a great collection but there's no reason to have toppers and LEs out for public play. And now Stern knows you and others like you will keep buying regardless of price.
John Wick doesn't have much of John Wick in it. You have a few scenes, but Wick never says anything. The entire game is voiced by Ian McShane. Then again, the new JP didn't have the music from the movie or "Welcome to Jurassic Park.". While Jaws nails all of this
I would also add that when/IF Pokemon is announced it won't even sell that well. How many 45+ year olds (or even 55+ and 65+ specifically) are going to buy this theme? For their grand kids? Sure a couple dudes might. Will 25-40 year olds go ape shit when they hear about this? Yes, but how many have $1500 in the bank let alone $8-13k lol. VERY FEW. I think it will be interesting to see how a pin like that does. Put Elwin on it, put Pokemon on it and let see how many units it sells. Now, go do The Goonies, Van Halen, Def Leppard or something and put your worst designer on it and see how it does.
I think you nail a lot of the problems in the industry that are out in the open. A lot of this can be solved by these companies just choosing better themes. If Elton John was the same game, with Richie on it but the theme was The Goonies they would have sold $8000+ units. Instead, Jack and his wife like Elton and thought "hey this would be a good pinball machine" and marched forward because they wanted it made. Too many "yes men" at these companies and nobody saying, "Thats a stupid theme or stupid idea.". All that time, energy going into lame themes. Now on the Stern side, they are getting real competition now so we have context. $13k LEs that are worth $9k 90 days later is reality. $2k toppers ARE A JOKE. Their business model is upside down and its taking them too long to realize it. Then enter someone like Barrels of Fun. LE quality, features for $2-3k less. $900 toppers that move and speak. BoF is filling the gap in the market created by Stern and JJP right now. Theme-wise Labyrinth is AMAZING. Not everyone's cup of tea but a massive cult following and they're selling great. Truthfully, I hope BoF gets the Goonies license and just skyrockets in the industry. Then you have American Pinball just sitting in the corner doing whatever they want and losing customers. Spooky has done a lot good and growing well. Stern and JJP need to reset.
I’m a casual fan of Rush and Foo Fighters lol. Foo fighters is a better choice than Nirvana for a pinball game. Kurt cobain killed himself because he didn’t want the fame, let him rest. Foo fighters have been around 3 times as long as Nirvana was and I think it’s safe to say a ton of their fans are younger and don’t give a crap about nirvana. They being said…I’m mid 40s, been playing pinball all my life yet I’ve never bought one. I looked into buying one like 15 years ago and they were around 5-6k on average used. I thought that was too much to pay for a pinball machine. I think that’s around the same time Stern was making a comeback and making more games again and they were coming out at 10-12k, and that was when I realized I’ll probably never own a pinball machine in my life. They should just make original themed machines and stop licensing expensive IP.
My problem with John Wick is actually that I never heard of it before the pinball machine came out. I can name dozens of Rush songs, and I'm only a casual listener who never bought one of their records. I couldn't name one John Wick film. My all-time favorite game is Funhouse, a totally original theme. When they came out with Rudy's Nightmare, I didn't want it. When they announced the remake, I didn't want it. I want the original. I want...originality...not some licensed theme that misses the mark, and the only people who know what the theme is are disappointed.
In this video, “ Hey stern, everybody only wants themes and concepts I like. You should only make my favorite popular and most famous licensing options, then build each machine with the best and newest hot top tech, oh and have it ready to ship in stock, and by the way, you have to only charge the barest minimum price…that’s how you sell a ton of games, Stern!”
Well said. Other than some of their choices of themes, another thing JJP needs to do is put in some mech and cool stuff like that to be worth the money. When it comes to Nirvana, what can you do with them to make a great pinball? Foo Fighters at least made a great pinball that wasn't just a music pin
On point video I just turned 50 and our local crowd of owners are between 35=50. I route and sell mods myself. I think there is a smart way to grow pinball and that will be to make popular video game themes. I'd love to see Halo, Call of Duty, other popular VG themes to bring in millions of new players. That's what a 50 year old remembers, not the 3 stooges. Everyone has an opinion on themes and you are correct about Stern missing the boat frequently. Jaws was a disappointing theme to me who wants to see pinball evolve quicker towards that dream of playing Fallout or Grand Theft Auto before I die.
The John Wick "no guns" probably is a film studio thing. Saw a video of a studio tour in L.A. with a 20 ft high poster of the Lone Ranger on the side of the building and they digitally removed his guns, but he still had the pose like his hands were holding guns.
Yeah not saying it wasn't a great theme for you... its not going to BREAKOUT of the hardcore pinball fan like ACDC did or Ghostbusters. There just isn't a big enough fan base to warrant doing a pinball of Rush. Van Halen for example would have sold 2 to 3x more games.
Ahh the idea you're missing. First off you're wrong because they did it with Batman 66 and its one of their top 5 best selling games in their history. Now they're doing it again with Metallica. Secondly, I'm suggesting they do the same thing with OLDER games much older that you might not own... and make a couple changes like they did with Beatles or Batman 66 and give us a theme we want to buy that might not warrant in their mind a full development. Wouldn't you love a fast times at ridgemont high for say $9500 bucks just take a game like Dale Earnhart or XFiles or and bam. The intent is creating a collectible market.
Jhonny wik its a advent of ideal cinema where along advent time actor become robert de niro live in high revolution digital .... i love wik become a opera of value where I have watch my actuality in all by all for justice ! ( ... afther I have watch a old movie for title justice day ... but I have remember on the value for name cinema is a sacrality whitout future ! )
I love the band Rush, but that's really just about the music almost exclusively. Pinball can't be about music alone. I want films themes, tv shows, and classic characters. I want to be reminded of classic scenes and iconic moments. Let me finish off by saying HBO's Tales From the Crypt will always be my favorite pinball machine. It had classic scenes related to the show and it all played out in the pinball game itself, and it was all tied together with the Crypt Keeper. To make great pinball you need it all.
This is why Foo is by far my favorite music pin not just by Stern, but _ever._ Look at your typical band-themed pin; it almost always boils down to little more than "play random modes while 's songs play in the background." Foo, on the other hand, actually has a coherent theme beyond that: you're fighting aliens and robots! You're stopping the Overlord's invasion of Earth! It's one of the exceedingly rare cases where the band is secondary to the overall theme: you could take out every last reference to Foo Fighters and still have a solid alien invasion-themed pin on your hands. Take the band out of virtually any other music pin and there's nothing left.
My mom and my aunt grew up listening to The Beastie Boys, and I agree that a pinball table based on them would bring in a huge crowd. I also agree with the concept of a Nirvana pinball table because my mom also listened to them.
If they used common sense they would and they would use common sense to pick themes. Yeah Venom took a ton of common sense, James Bond, Rush, Foo Fighters, John Wick they're NOT using common sense to sell the most games. END OF STORY!
It amazes me that people buy these things. The old WIlliams/Bally games were high quality items whilst Stern pinballs resemble cheap toys . As for people saying they aren't going to make any more of table X, do these people remember Beanie Babys?
Tell me you don't play stern games without telling me you don't play stern games. New Stern games from Elwin, Jack Danger, etc have flow you'd NEVER see in a Williams game. Gotta appreciate the designs coming out from the designers of today.
@@IanJacobyandcompany the designs may be good ( I like a few of them) but the cheap arse parts and printing still make the things look toys.
Nirvana is probably a licensing issue. But to be fair, Foo Fighters has been doing stadium tours for 20 years, they are one of the few big rock bands still around.
No because Nirvana is owned by a license company. Stern is probably just too cheap to pay for the license. Instead you get FOO FIGHTERS... but had they licensed Nirvana they would have sold probalby 5x more machines.
The exact same foo fighters pin, if it had nirvana music instead of foo fighters, I would have bought it. I don't want to listen to foo fighters any more than its already played on the radio.
foo fighters have NEVER done a stadium tour. Stadium tours are reserved for bands like Metallica or Taylor Swift. Foo Fighters aren't even close to that level. If you're talking about they're one band of 20 bands that isn't a stadium tour. Foo Fighters aren't that popular just saying... NIRVANA would be sell it before you see it.
I got to play foo fighters at an arcade and at a show. I played about 20+ games. I couldn't hear a dang thing because of the ambient noise. Loved the pin, loved the layout, the art, etc. My kids liked the game too. Still the thought of having to listen to foofighters on repeat has me irked. I hope that I can set the music attenuation so that I cannot hear it and just turn on spotify.
I agree a lot with this. I really like the titles mentioned. Beastie Boys, Nirvana, Die Hard, Goonies, Matrix, Back to the Future, etc.
i heard that goonies is already licensed by barrels of fun... shows why stern is failing
Had some good takes. Until you said do Nirvana instead of Foo Fighters.
Also Gomez already confirmed that the lack of guns on John Wick was the studio.
Love the idea of a Three Stooges pinball machine. That would be great!
First off... I could care less what George Gomez said do you think that is true? Lionsgate makes FOUR MOVIES about John Wick where he kills over 1000 people with GUNS and they tell Stern no guns. You really believe this? Secondly, Nirvana as a collectable is probably worth 50X what Foo Fighters is worth. In terms of fans, album sales, t-shirts, to everything between you couldn't compare Foo Fighters and Nirvana EVER! You're trying to compare a grape to a watermelon. Here is the deal and the point you're missing... yes I get it you like the Foo Fighters, but that doesn't mean its a good title. If your goal is to sell 5000 machines, 10,000 machines you don't pick Foo Fighters, you don't pick Rush, you don't pick Venom or John Wick... you pick Diehard, Caddyshack, Nirvana, Michael Jackson, Prince, you just don't pick fringe themes.
First off I don't believe what Gomez said that was just an easy out... if I licensed John Wick and the studio said yeah but no guns I would skip the license. That didn't happen. Secondly, are you serious Foo Fighters aren't 1/100th as popular as Nirvana. Its not even close. Go into any Walmart - Target - Spencers you will never see a FOO FIGhTERS shirt for sale yet they'll have multiple versions of Nirvana. You look on spotify, youtube, album sales, it doesn't matter its like comparing a grape to a watermelon. Please!
@@Hauntworld Listening to foo fighters, its hard to believe Dave Grohl was the Nirvana drummer. Not only are they different genres, they are different levels.
Rumor has it that Pokemon is on the docket as a possible future Stern game. If they ever release that, assuming the game itself is solid, I guarantee you it would become their best-selling pin over the past decade by a _colossal_ margin, both in terms of collector purchases and on-location revenue. That's a theme that has near universal appeal, plus it's the perfect way to get the young'uns into pinball. Kids aren't going to give something like Jaws, 007, or Rush a second glance, but I guarantee you'll have a crowd of 'em around a Pokemon pin. That's been a serious concern of mine with modern-day Stern: their current demographic isn't going to be around forever, and who's gonna replace them if you haven't been getting the next generation into pinball?
You want the industry to crash again? Because that's how you get the industry to crash again.
I feel like if they really wanna bring in a more millennial and early Gen Z crowd, they could make pinball tables based on bands like Weezer and Gorillaz; or, If they’re crazy enough, they could just come up with a Hatsune Miku pinball machine.
As an adult who grew up with Pokemon, instant buy lol.
Good video but whoever owns all those pinball games and toppers is part of the problem. Why? because they bought all this overpriced stuff in the first place. That gave stern the go-ahead to jack up prices even more... which brings us to where we are today.
LOL the guy who made the video owns them..
If I was buying for myself I would NOT buy those titles... I have a pincade that sells booze. I buy all the new games for on location, there is a difference. Home sales are what is way down because the theme and the price don't match up.
@@Hauntworld truthfully I think purchasing any LE brand new for the home doesn’t make sense. Buying for a business does when you can use it as a business expense for your tax filing. If you want the full playfield experience, premium is the way to go… unless LE art work speaks to you.. then just wait for price to go down. However, I don’t necessarily agree with some of your theme points .. I think the themes are fine. If they released something different.. people still would have asked for XYZ. If Stern came out with BTTF… folks who don’t care for that theme would have asked “why not blah blah”. I like BTTF but I actually don’t care about a pinball machine for it
@@Hauntworld yeah but you're buying the $2,000 toppers that you're complaining about cost too much money! Lol. You're part of the problem unfortunately! You got a great place there and a great collection but there's no reason to have toppers and LEs out for public play. And now Stern knows you and others like you will keep buying regardless of price.
King kong with Jeff bridges and Jessica Lange. I'd buy that immediately!
Preach man. Well said.
John Wick doesn't have much of John Wick in it. You have a few scenes, but Wick never says anything. The entire game is voiced by Ian McShane. Then again, the new JP didn't have the music from the movie or "Welcome to Jurassic Park.".
While Jaws nails all of this
I would also add that when/IF Pokemon is announced it won't even sell that well. How many 45+ year olds (or even 55+ and 65+ specifically) are going to buy this theme? For their grand kids? Sure a couple dudes might. Will 25-40 year olds go ape shit when they hear about this? Yes, but how many have $1500 in the bank let alone $8-13k lol. VERY FEW. I think it will be interesting to see how a pin like that does. Put Elwin on it, put Pokemon on it and let see how many units it sells. Now, go do The Goonies, Van Halen, Def Leppard or something and put your worst designer on it and see how it does.
I think you nail a lot of the problems in the industry that are out in the open. A lot of this can be solved by these companies just choosing better themes. If Elton John was the same game, with Richie on it but the theme was The Goonies they would have sold $8000+ units. Instead, Jack and his wife like Elton and thought "hey this would be a good pinball machine" and marched forward because they wanted it made. Too many "yes men" at these companies and nobody saying, "Thats a stupid theme or stupid idea.". All that time, energy going into lame themes. Now on the Stern side, they are getting real competition now so we have context. $13k LEs that are worth $9k 90 days later is reality. $2k toppers ARE A JOKE. Their business model is upside down and its taking them too long to realize it. Then enter someone like Barrels of Fun. LE quality, features for $2-3k less. $900 toppers that move and speak. BoF is filling the gap in the market created by Stern and JJP right now. Theme-wise Labyrinth is AMAZING. Not everyone's cup of tea but a massive cult following and they're selling great. Truthfully, I hope BoF gets the Goonies license and just skyrockets in the industry. Then you have American Pinball just sitting in the corner doing whatever they want and losing customers. Spooky has done a lot good and growing well. Stern and JJP need to reset.
I’m a casual fan of Rush and Foo Fighters lol. Foo fighters is a better choice than Nirvana for a pinball game. Kurt cobain killed himself because he didn’t want the fame, let him rest. Foo fighters have been around 3 times as long as Nirvana was and I think it’s safe to say a ton of their fans are younger and don’t give a crap about nirvana. They being said…I’m mid 40s, been playing pinball all my life yet I’ve never bought one. I looked into buying one like 15 years ago and they were around 5-6k on average used. I thought that was too much to pay for a pinball machine. I think that’s around the same time Stern was making a comeback and making more games again and they were coming out at 10-12k, and that was when I realized I’ll probably never own a pinball machine in my life. They should just make original themed machines and stop licensing expensive IP.
My problem with John Wick is actually that I never heard of it before the pinball machine came out. I can name dozens of Rush songs, and I'm only a casual listener who never bought one of their records. I couldn't name one John Wick film. My all-time favorite game is Funhouse, a totally original theme. When they came out with Rudy's Nightmare, I didn't want it. When they announced the remake, I didn't want it. I want the original. I want...originality...not some licensed theme that misses the mark, and the only people who know what the theme is are disappointed.
In this video, “ Hey stern, everybody only wants themes and concepts I like. You should only make my favorite popular and most famous licensing options, then build each machine with the best and newest hot top tech, oh and have it ready to ship in stock, and by the way, you have to only charge the barest minimum price…that’s how you sell a ton of games, Stern!”
Most Stern Premium Edition Pinball Machines are $9400 to $9600.
Interesting points. While playing Labyrinth, I wish I was playing a them of Lord of the Rings.
You are absolutely right, Venom and Jaws pinball are terribly horrible, no one who has 13k dollars would pay for it for their collection.
Venom, sure … JAWS??? 👀 That’s one of the most iconic themes for the very market of buyers he’s talkin about. Plus, Keith Elwin? Ah well. 🤷♂️✌️
Well said.
Other than some of their choices of themes, another thing JJP needs to do is put in some mech and cool stuff like that to be worth the money.
When it comes to Nirvana, what can you do with them to make a great pinball?
Foo Fighters at least made a great pinball that wasn't just a music pin
On point video I just turned 50 and our local crowd of owners are between 35=50. I route and sell mods myself. I think there is a smart way to grow pinball and that will be to make popular video game themes. I'd love to see Halo, Call of Duty, other popular VG themes to bring in millions of new players. That's what a 50 year old remembers, not the 3 stooges. Everyone has an opinion on themes and you are correct about Stern missing the boat frequently. Jaws was a disappointing theme to me who wants to see pinball evolve quicker towards that dream of playing Fallout or Grand Theft Auto before I die.
The John Wick "no guns" probably is a film studio thing. Saw a video of a studio tour in L.A. with a 20 ft high poster of the Lone Ranger on the side of the building and they digitally removed his guns, but he still had the pose like his hands were holding guns.
Woke BS. F Hollywood
John Wick with no guns is not a studio thing... its Lionsgate they're just happy to get anything licensed.
well, in EU it's even worse, they expect us to pay more than 16.5k € for a limited edition...
Space balls
Unfortunately you'll never see a Michael Jackson pin. There's just too much controversy, which for me is a crying shame.
Not sure about the "common sense" part of this. Mostly uninformed opinion as your premises.
Rush having hardcore nerdy fans from 45-60 is why it was PERFECT for pinball. Love my Rush LE. Phenomenal game.
Yeah not saying it wasn't a great theme for you... its not going to BREAKOUT of the hardcore pinball fan like ACDC did or Ghostbusters. There just isn't a big enough fan base to warrant doing a pinball of Rush. Van Halen for example would have sold 2 to 3x more games.
Stern, listen to this guy. Everything he says is spot on.
Tvs Dinosaurs would make a cool table
Your making too much sense (:
Who wants to pay twice the price of a pin as a reskin??? Not me. 😂 Great perspective though!!!! And cool place!
Ahh the idea you're missing. First off you're wrong because they did it with Batman 66 and its one of their top 5 best selling games in their history. Now they're doing it again with Metallica. Secondly, I'm suggesting they do the same thing with OLDER games much older that you might not own... and make a couple changes like they did with Beatles or Batman 66 and give us a theme we want to buy that might not warrant in their mind a full development. Wouldn't you love a fast times at ridgemont high for say $9500 bucks just take a game like Dale Earnhart or XFiles or and bam. The intent is creating a collectible market.
"Pinball game."
100% spot on. I can see why your business is successful.
thanks brother
Perfect 🏆🎖💯
Nobody mentioned Bon Jovi, I think the fanbase should be bigger than Rush and Foo Fighters...
Yet what can you do with him to make a good pinball?
I would not want Bon Jovi but he would be bigger than Rush that is for sure.
Jhonny wik its a advent of ideal cinema where along advent time actor become robert de niro live in high revolution digital .... i love wik become a opera of value where I have watch my actuality in all by all for justice !
( ... afther I have watch a old movie for title justice day ... but I have remember on the value for name cinema is a sacrality whitout future ! )
Sesame Street, electric company would sell to alot of markets. Probably would do better than some of the dumb crap.
I love the band Rush, but that's really just about the music almost exclusively. Pinball can't be about music alone. I want films themes, tv shows, and classic characters. I want to be reminded of classic scenes and iconic moments. Let me finish off by saying HBO's Tales From the Crypt will always be my favorite pinball machine. It had classic scenes related to the show and it all played out in the pinball game itself, and it was all tied together with the Crypt Keeper. To make great pinball you need it all.
This is why Foo is by far my favorite music pin not just by Stern, but _ever._ Look at your typical band-themed pin; it almost always boils down to little more than "play random modes while 's songs play in the background." Foo, on the other hand, actually has a coherent theme beyond that: you're fighting aliens and robots! You're stopping the Overlord's invasion of Earth! It's one of the exceedingly rare cases where the band is secondary to the overall theme: you could take out every last reference to Foo Fighters and still have a solid alien invasion-themed pin on your hands. Take the band out of virtually any other music pin and there's nothing left.
My mom and my aunt grew up listening to The Beastie Boys, and I agree that a pinball table based on them would bring in a huge crowd. I also agree with the concept of a Nirvana pinball table because my mom also listened to them.
Nirvana or Beastie Boys lets go!
Caddy shack.
Debbie does, Dallas. Lol
now you're talking
ya STERN should listen to this guy
If they used common sense they would and they would use common sense to pick themes. Yeah Venom took a ton of common sense, James Bond, Rush, Foo Fighters, John Wick they're NOT using common sense to sell the most games. END OF STORY!
Wow. My head hurts.