It is the way of things when one falls so far without reason , wisdom , nor vision. To continue to wallow in the depths of the Dark side , one is corrupted to the point beyond redemption.
I like the way his three avatars died in different positions. Valkorion the most regal of his forms died on his feet standing, like a ruler should, Vitiate died pretty much on his knee's like he was begging for his life, the fear of death that many sith had consuming him in his last moments, while Tenebrae died his hand reaching out and grasping still trying to claim or clinging to power.
It wouldn't be the first time the Vitiate avatar died on his knees, but I enjoy the callbacks to their original deaths. That, and getting to see Tenebrae in his original body.
For me out of those 3 "Personalities" Valkorion is by far most majestic and interesting, in a way his former wife perfectly described him as someone who can be truly wise and benevolent but still harber great darkness inside him. And Valkorion's voice actor is damn great too.
Vitiate's original voice is better is just that they kind of lessen it here, maybe on purpose, so it does not sound as deep as before and it ended being outshadowed by Valkorion's and Tenebrae's mostly because of fanservice, though Valkorion's voice is really good. Rewatch the original battle with him in the hero of thyton storyline, i think it does a damn great job portraying Vitiate as this misterious figure who is supposed to be the greatest threat in the galaxy, outclassing even Malgus but at the same time looking simply human, it kind of reminds me of the tall man and it gives you the vibe that you think you are fighting just a man or another sith and yet you know that he is not, he is something else, and even though he got little time in screen his lines were on point, i mean he literally knows all reality and beyond so everything he says must be interesting so him explaining his plans gotta be the coolest line in all swtor the deliver is just that good.
Too bad all of his "benevolence" was all something that doesn't really last because he wouldn't even blink when choosing between himself and others. If stepping on his wife's head is the quickest way to attaining permanent immortality do not doubt for a second that he would do it in a heartbeat.
@@jakobrenner2230 Valkorion was the Protector of Zakuul back when his kids were young, he used to train them, later on Vitiate got hold of his body and he proclaimed himself Emperor of Zakuul. Valkorion's true mind might not be gone, it might be somewhere in the galaxy
God I love the use of the Kotor theme, Jedi's fury, and Padme's funeral in their respective roles. I love how many of the people repeated past quotes like "in the end you are nothing" and "you presume limits to my power".
In the Revan novel, Bastila doesn't follow Revan into dark space to confront Tenebrae because she discovered she was pregnant. Seven years later, she again can't follow Meetra/the exile to rescue Revan, because she had to stay and watch over their son. And centuries later, those decisions ensure Tenebrae's ultimate defeat. Because Bastila made sure their bloodline would continue, Satele, a descendent of Revan and Bastila, was able to lure Tenebrae into a trap, where his most powerful enemies could all convene and destroy him once and for all
I see you've read the book. Man, I absolutely LOVED that book. That book, tied with the **Book of Sith: Secrets of the Dark Side** are my favorite all-time Star Wars books.
A fitting end. Iconic, ironical really. That it would be the descendant of revan & bastila ensnares him in her own trap by pumping his ego. Making him think he was winning against her will
First time i played this and i killed him, I though "huh, thats it?" And then I thought about it and i realized I LOVED how anticlimatic it feels. You spend YEARS stopping this guy at every turn, and when he thinks he has the last laugh, thinking that he knows so much more than you could ever hope, everyone just comes around and kinda goes "nah, you're over" and just tears him down into nothing. Pride was his ultimate weakness, and we made him realize how utterly insignifigant he was. An anticlimatic death was perfect for him.
@@chocochipjewel In her defense, she had greater plans going on behind the scenes that required more than one apprentice. Also, remember, she had lost to Scion on purpose to see these plans through. But I get the example still.
Really wasted opportunity to let the sound design teams go nuts for the final fight by having Tenebrae, Vitiate and Valkorion's voices overlapped/echoing one another like what Dave Filoni did with Vader/Anakin in Star Wars Rebels
@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity he wanted to destroy vitiate lol at all costs lol. Nostalgia blinds all.. you’re the type of person who shat on the prequels and well we got pissney wars now rather than legitimate Star Wars lol.
@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity Revan did exactly what he would have done had the story continue. Could you improve some of it of course you can improve anything. You could improve the OT in a lot ways by touching things up and making it more realistic while also doing that to the original release as well. It’s a matter or not if people Like you are gonna be pissy about logical Story progression or nostalgia blinding your logically thinking.
While this feels much like everyone coming back to end Thanos, I appreciate all the callbacks to Kotor with this ending. "And in the end as the darkness takes me, I am nothing." The last thing missing for me would've had Malak come up behind Meetra as well. After all, he was also manipulated just as Revan was.
It wouldve been alot more badass and emotional if they included the kotor companions/characters aswell since the emperor technically affected or set the course of events of their lives too
@@khalduras784 Dragged down by literally every single jedi in history, there is parallel. Both required Force spirits returning in magnitude to deal with the threat.
Tenebrae is voiced by Anthony Skordi! He's in another piece of star wars media - he's "Admiral Versio" in the Battlefront 2 (2017) singleplayer campaign
Now this is the true trilogy or saga what BioWare has written and expanded on outdues anything at the moment Disney stars wars has done in their movie verse at least till now.
Squezz Siege in many aspects I find Tenebrae to have been far more terrifying than Palpatine. My boy Sheev may have been a Goku level prodigy when it came to Force powers and techniques but Tenebrae was on something else. My guy was casually dividing his spirit and will across the galaxy upon countless beings early in his long af life. Palpatine was naturally gifted at like every dark side ability to speak of but the one technique he couldn't ever really get down was Essence Transfer and Ancient Rituals.
Yea youre absolutely right. Id say Palpatine was stronger then Tenebrae overall but Tenebraes use of his rituals and magic along with his goal to annihilate everything more terrifying
@@PlayingGames97 yeah, he wasn't so bad to the point that he was getting his souls stuck in other beings or failing an untold amount of time but the man did float in the void/chaos for like a year before he could get to one of his clone bodies; the entire process being extremely painful. Vitiate on the other hand was puppeteering thousands of people early in his life while near his end he could dominate the majority beings on a planet. Or if he chose to, could impart a portion of spirit into his "Children/Voices". Each were a worthy host of his power and wouldn't crumble at the presence of his dark side aura. Though I must say in Palpatine's defense, his physician did sabotage his new clone bodies. We never got to see how well they actually held up if they were normal grown bodies 🤔
@@blackshogun272 that's because ever since the decanonize of the EU, bioware got more freedom to do whatever they want with Vitiate even if it goes against the lore to just have him go too crazy in power as that would undermine Sidious
I know a lot of people didn’t like this expansion and the bringing back of Tenebrae but I think this is definitely a satisfying ending that brought everyone together
Darth Sidious / Palpatine: No one can beat me when it comes to being evil, I am the evilest character in Star Wars Darth Vitiate / Tenebrae / Valkorion: It's cute that you think that
@@tacostastegood3720 at the end of the day, this was still technically a part of their story. It would be alot more criminal to leave anything kotor out of this. It wouldve been considered "milking kotor" if they had done it the way shadow of revan did it where they plastered Revan on every ad for that expansion. Instead, this patch was just a nice surprise
@@khalduras784 I disagree there. I wholeheartedly believe Revan should have died long ago. Give him a warrior's death, blade in hand, and say goodbye. Vitiate lived for 1100 years before Revan. And he should have lived the last 300 years of his life without him. Insead they keep Revan prisoner for 300 years and force him down your throat every chance they get so they can market the game as Kotor 3. If you disagree that's alright. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But I am very displeased by how they handled this.
Not really. Revan actually stood against Vitiate long before Scourge: when he tried (and failed) with Malak to kill the Sith ruler and later when he literally built his own Sith Empire to defend the galaxy against the Emperor.
@@samuelebalduzzi5376 the reason it looks similar is because tenebrae and naga sadow both lived in the same time period although naga sadow was a bit older
@@Popityman They were peers, actually. Tenebrae was given the title of Darth Vitiate by Naga Sadow's predecessor as Dark Lord, Marka Ragnos. Meta aside, Darth Vitiate deliberately chose to isolate himself from Sith politics at this time to chase after immortality. It's also why the Jedi were so left in the dark by Darth Vitiate's existence. Even to his fellow Sith Lords at the time, he was an enigma, a powerful recluse who preferred to stay on Nathema studying the Dark Side in pursuit of immortality. Add to that the Jedi's own destruction of the Old Sith Empire's records and Darth Vitiate's own post-Ritual of Nathema purge of his past identity, and it's no surprise there was little to indicate to anyone who the Sith Emperor actually was. Some Jedi even assumed the Sith Emperor was Naga Sadow, when in reality he was Darth Vitiate.
And to think this still wasn't his full power, just an imprint of how he was at first. Still it's for the best, as I doubt they would have won, had he been at full capacity.
@@gilgamesh4869 he... actually wasn't devoid of experience: he had the full experience of a Dark Lord of the Sith that ruled a planet for centuries (and enslaved other Sith Lords). He didn't have all the experience of Vitiate but he did have some (a lot actually).
I know. Darth Marr is so badass! He is the true Emperor of the Sith, not Tenebrae. He actually cares about them and wants what's best for and to improve their lot
Unfortunately that will never happen because Disney doesn’t want anything new from the real EU, however BioWare could make a mini story like the HK-55 story with Marr but I don’t see that happening with Marr officially one with the force
@@NefariousSpecter Well, they could make something from before Marr becoming 1 with the Force. Grandmaster Satele assumed it happened. She didn't say that he IS, but PROBABLY or something like that. Same for Revan and Mitra Soreek.
@@NefariousSpecter In the Mandalorian series from Netflix, a former Jedi Ashoka Tano mentions planet Tython. Outside of SWTOR,have you ever heard of Tython? Baby "Yoda" is to go there to decide his(?)future. Perhaps, SWTOR shall become Canon again. And Ashoka based on her Lightsabers fights, would destroy Rey(Ray?) within a few seconds. Or Kylo for that matter. Well within half a minute anyways. 😄 Clearly whoever is making choreography wasn't very impressed with Sequel Trilogy🤮.
I did the same, cried and yelled. I took a break from SWToR, and just finished this quest. Somehow i didn´t even get spoiled. So when i just experienced it I litteraly scream.. REVAN! Exile!.. it was such a good finish to their story. I even thought that they should give them closure somehow.. and then i experience this. Epic.
Bastila, Malak and Kreia should have been there. I know Bastila and Kreia had nothing to do with Vitiate, but Malak and Revan’s life got fucked up by Vitiate.
Seeing Tenebrae's pureblood form was awesome! Much cooler than Valkorian or any of his Voices. Also avenging Marr was therapeutic! XD Thanks for sharing!
@@FreakDaMIghet Booted is way too harsh of a word I think. With 1st Son still within him, he was way to dangerous. Never know when he might loose control again.
I agree. I played this story as my Sith Warrior but it was nice to see him included. Hopefully now the First Son is gone from him now that Tenebrae is finally dead.
@@FreakDaMIghet Sure, but they couldn't have known at the time. The responsibility of the Jedi High Council is above and beyond extreme. Physical world and afterlife as well. To some extent anyways. And even if they did know, I doubt they would be able to handle it. Perhaps they would, perhaps not.
This is basically Judgement Day for the Emperor. Confronted with his actions, the people he manipulated, hurt, betrayed, and murdered. One little thing I noticed. When Valkorian and vitiate turned to stone, they were shielding themselves from something above them. It’s basically the Force acting as a god and delivering justice.
Let us hope that this is the final end for Tenebrae. A fitting end for the man who destroyed so many lives in pursuit of his ambitions and desire for power and immortality. Before everyone who has been affected by him, even his power is nothing.
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul Oh, well let's hope that it does not apply in this case. While I am on the subject, I also hope that Palpatine will not be making any more appearances if they ever make more movies. Both emperors have proven themselves to be good main antagonists, but I think that both of them have thoroughly worn out their welcome both in-universe and out of it. Just my thoughts.
honestly tenebrae acts quite a bit different than his valkorion/vitiate self, tenebrae shows more emotion such as anger and hate, and acts alot more devoted to the sith than his other 2 versions. he definetely changed quite a bit over his years. while vitiate/valkorion hardly showed any anger or hate.
It matches how Tenebrae was very much the best at the Sith game, including leading the Sith from extinction, then he became something more like a void/anomaly over time.
That's because it's not really him. This 'Tenebrae' is an echo of who he was centuries ago. It actually makes him less dangerous than the Emperor the PCs have previously fought against. For all that 'Tenebrae' sneers at his original for getting distracted by empires and families, the original's experience made him wiser and more dangerous. 'Tenebrae' let his sadism get to him, trying to simultaneously possess Satele and drain her students, buying the PCs time to stop him. The original would have just focused on possessing Satele before killing her students, such that by the time the PCs arrived, it would already be too late.
This is arguably the best, most impactful moment in SWTOR. Arguably the “Avengers Endgame” of SWTOR. We had played the game for a decade to get to this point. Such a phenomenal story expansion.
@@ddpzzp553 cause she said that the exile and revan will go to the unknown regions, confront and eventually defeat Tenebrae. She did know that something controlled the mandalorian wars, and it was never the mandalorians choice to fight against the republic. Traya also knew that the mandalorian wars were a setup for the New Sith Wars that take place in SWTOR. The mandalorian wars were planned by the Sith Emperor in the unknown regions. Tenebrae used his sith ritual to blind a lot of Jedi to follow Revan to war, and to influence the entire mandalorian army to go rouge. He did this to make the Jedi tiny and the republic weak, so they could ultimately defeat both of them.
You think after the train wreck they cause with the Sequels that Disney would make his story great? Or that they'd make a series about the Dark side? Lol Disney are not only too light hearted and child friendly but they also destroy star wars stories. Best if they left the entire old republic lore alone and preserve it's reverence as it is.
If it must be a series, Dave Filoni should be given the helm of directing it. The series should have a similar number of episodes like the Mandalorian does, with either 1 hour long episodes or 45 minutes at the least. I just hope if the Exile is ever featured, that she gets the best portrayal she deserves.
When I first played this I was like.... Really? That's it? YEARS of fighting this guy and it ends so... "suddenly"? I was a little disappointed. I expected it to be... more and much longer. However, the more I think about it, and replay it on another character, the more I like it. The more I am like, "It may not be a super long ending and more than a sudden 'oh he ded', but it's great.". I really REALLY loved Tenabrae. I just wished it didn't feel so "sudden" - however that's just me. It's amazing still. Really love how everything works. Really loved the clapback of Vaylin's "You presume limits to my power. There are none!" like boom, roasted!
I just played this and I realized that it literally is bioware and all the other companies EA has destroyed or betrayed and all the gamers coming together to put a stop to the tyranny of electronic arts once and for all. Truly heartwarming.
I don't want an eternal TV show, I want an eternal movie, this family and this saga is wayyyyy to big to be only a show I mean there called eternals for christ sake and the entire family are the most powerful force users at that time and one of the most powerful ever to exist i mean the two cinematic trailers had more meaning and depth then anything else and we need that kind of depth on the big screen and to be honest a story like that is bigger and deeper then the Skywalkers, the eternal empire is the perfect story and we need it!
@Sven Lumia because TOR is an still existing content of legends that still being produce if they shut it down they would also piss off the majority of players
Makes me think of Abeloth in a way, even after stabbing her with the mortis dagger, the only known weapon able to kill a member of The Ones, Luke Skywalker had doubts that she was truly gone.
My emperor overwhelmed all of those 'heroes' at 14:21, before the Force itself interfered. Long live the Sith Emperor!!! "I am master to all Sith!" - My Emperor
@@stormalexandrioz4308 Eh, who cares what was said. Tenebre would just come back again and again and aga... . AND AGAIN!!! 😁😁😁 Eventually Shiv would just... give up and die. Am I not wise and smart? 😎
I've always wondered what would happen if Vitiate and Nihilus faced each other. Left unchecked, both of them would have eventually consumed the entire galaxy. It's a case of who drains who. Comment on who wins and why 💀
I have to agree that Vitiate wins. Nihilus is powerful enough to drain planets as well, but unlike Vitiate, he actually needs to constantly in order to survive. Vitiate, on the other hand, doesn't have that limitation.
Vitae was the Palpatine before Palpatine. He came from humble origins, rose to power when the Sith were at their lowest ebb through deception, and managed to maintain power by turning the Sith from an inbred tribe to a proselytizing ideology that could spread beyond their original Korriban base. . And finally he managed to achieve immortality and create a second Sith empire that came to replace the first. While Palpatine was a Banite Sith to the core, he could never have created an empire without Vititae's previous experience, which taught him that if you want to stay in power, you have to proselytize your ideals and be flexible enough to include everyone in your empire, Sith and non-Sith. Ironically what brought Sidious down was the fact that he wanted to transform his empire from a military autocracy to an oficial Sith theocracy too quickly, which caused even his imperial supporters to stop supporting him.
That's interesting, I didn't know that Palpatine had many supporters turning on him by the time of his downfall. I mean, in a new hope he did have enough political power to dissolve the Senate.
@@theazureknight9399 The inner circle and the other high officials were loyal to him, but for the New Hope he earned the enmity of the Imperial Army, especially after the Death Stars. The military had trusted Palpatine in the hope that they would have a voice in his government and that he would eliminate the political-Jedi coruscanti caste, only to be slapped in the face when Sidious created a personal court of sycophants and placed them under Vader's authority and other darksider hitmen.
It took Kira Carsen, Scourge, Revan, Meetra Surik, Senya, Thexan, Arcaan, Vaylin, Darth Maar and Satele Shan (and you) to take this guy down. Think about it lol
After his final defeat, Vitiate's soul was imprisoned for eternity in Chaos, being unable to rest in peace even he wished for it. Eventually, he stopped thinking.
Tenebrae is the greatest of all the Sith Lords. He lived nearly 1,500 years through knowledge of Force sorcery and alchemy second to none. The only other sith that I can think of that even comes remotely close to Tenebrae's power is Darth Nihlus. As a darkside entity, the way he had to live was to feed off force energy destroying planets just like Tenebrae did.
I’m not sure that Shan’s “trap” makes sense. This was an “backup”, it seems a little of that he was to arrogant to just finish his resurrection, but scared enough to have a backup.
What did he basically have to do exactly? Just completely overwhelm them mentally? I’ve never understood how that and essence transfer works exactly and what is actually involved.
@@vitiate5093 If you want to know how essence transfer works yeah you pretty much overwhelm your vessel mentally as your body is consumed by the dark side. If your will is strong enough it will succeed and vanquish the other mind, if not and you get rejected your spirit is lost to Chaos, which is part of the Netherworld of the Force.
@@RollingOnTheFloorDooming ah I see so did he manage to even remotely succeed and move on or did he just succeed partially and get arrogant enough to not finish it.
@@vitiate5093 If we are still talking in terms of essence transfer I'm not sure. I don't think Valkorion tried Essence Transfer this time, he just imprinted an earlier version of his mind to his original body. In that he succeeded. What exactly happened to his actual spirit isn't known but it is likely destroyed for good after the "real" last battle against him which happened earlier.
I would have liked this better if it wasn't so clearly divided into "light" and "dark", "right" and "wrong". If it blurred the lines, if it made clearer the centuries of cunning it took Tenebrae to become what he became; not just the Emperor, not just the most powerful Sith to ever live, considering both past and future, but a being of such a mind that he could manipulate the galaxy, generation after generation, to do his bidding, whether they knew it or not. If Satele's students broke under his influence, because even though he divided his power, there is still something about him that almost let him win; something that would instill a sense of terror within us, the players, something that made clear just how nearly undefeatable Tenebrae really was. Instead, they made a big fight with very clearly cut sides, big effects, and called it good. It's a shame; all the lore, the story, the immersion built up and thrown away on the final stretch for a humiliation, a happy ending; but the fight is meaningless if the own side doesn't suffer any losses. If only they had shown us just how close Tenebrae got to victory yet again, how he was beaten on a whim of fate alone; how, even with all these "heroes" assembled, it still takes a lot of luck on their side to win. If only they had given us an enemy who was overcome just barely; if only he had stripped away ally after ally to leave just the player (and Kira and Scourge, in the case of the Knight) who stands victorious in the end - victory, but at great loss. A battle worthy of the greatest warriors the galaxy had ever seen.
In all my years playing swtor I had one big complaint. That Satele didn't feel worthy of the grandmaster title. She looked too young, too inexperienced and didn't give me the grandmaster vibes. Until that moment, until Echoes of Oblivion where she shown that she is the grandmaster of the order for a reason.
@@NefariousSpecter Yes, but TRoS tried being Endgame. That's the point. They both are trying to be Endgame, but SWTOR does it better because it's, at the very least, consistent with itself and built it up with characters you actually can like.
@@MotleyNerd they write a consistent story people trash Revan but Revan as he was in swtor is actually what would’ve happened. He was not gonna be at peace fully till Tenebrae joined him fully in death. I don’t get why people are so pissed about that.. being some dude’s Bitch for 3 centurions would suck.
@@MotleyNerd it would also take a toll on you and rob you of your sanity. It doesn’t take much for someone who is in total isolation to go insane I’d expect the same thing would occur in Star Wars.
@@vitiate5093 They're pissed mainly for two reasons, and the first is more relevant to most than others. 1.) The players played as Revan, so they took it personally when a character they considered their own, as an outlet for their own choices in the first game, was treated wrong in their eyes. The fact that he was made into "some dude's bitch for 3 centuries" is what made them mad in the first place. 2.) The character and the series were originally written in and were meant to go in a completely different direction. Take these two videos here for reference: ruclips.net/video/cc94zC1RvTY/видео.html ruclips.net/video/KQ-0aoCsCU4/видео.html I subscribe more to the second one, as I preferred (and grew up more with) TSL anyhow. That said, I do have my own personal gripes with how SWTOR handles what was even at that point considered fully canon, such as the Sith of the Great Hyperspace War having retreated into the Unknown Regions in the western disk of the galaxy, and the Chiss Ascendancy being based deep in that region. They instead pushed the reconstituted Sith Empire nonsensically into the Stygian Caldera, where they had been followed to during the Great Hyperspace War, and they moved the Chiss Ascendancy into Sith Space near the Stygian Caldera as well, including their homeworld of Csilla, which is canonically on the other side of the galaxy beyond the Great Hyperspace Disturbance. They completely broke canon for the sake of SWTOR instead of molding the lore and story of the game around canon in a creative way.
One thing that is really well done here is that they don't have the same voice. Voice boxes are different after all. If my spirit occupied my sister's body I would speak with her voice.
“Thus ends the reign of the Immortal Emperor”
for now.
@@SPIDERVENOM1000
Indeed.
But if he is pulled into hell, he might just as well stay there for all eternity.
@@GameslordXY if he's in my mind...he already is...
@@SPIDERVENOM1000
... in Hell? lmao
God help BioWare if they bring Vitiate back again
"In the end... *you* are nothing."
Holy shit, talk about a call-back to end all call-backs... the final words of Darth Malak.
glad someone else caught that.
제다이
And Revan when you beat him in the Foundry
It is the way of things when one falls so far without reason , wisdom , nor vision.
To continue to wallow in the depths of the Dark side , one is corrupted to the point beyond redemption.
"And as the darkness takes me, I am nothing..."
Valkorion: "Remember me, when your Alliance burns to ash" *Later gets turned to ash, by the Alliance*
Senya: Farewell, Valkorion.
Arcann: Go. Join my brother.
Vaylin: Ha! How does it feel to be erased from the galaxy?
Valkorion: AAAAAAAARRRGGGGHHHHHHH!
Well it did burn to ash when we lost the enternal fleet and had to return to the old factions
Ironic
XD
@@bt3376 Welp... you dont have rejoin Sith Empire or Republic,
I like the way his three avatars died in different positions. Valkorion the most regal of his forms died on his feet standing, like a ruler should, Vitiate died pretty much on his knee's like he was begging for his life, the fear of death that many sith had consuming him in his last moments, while Tenebrae died his hand reaching out and grasping still trying to claim or clinging to power.
I like that perspective
Valkorion was pretty much the most dignified form.
Interesting perspective.
It wouldn't be the first time the Vitiate avatar died on his knees, but I enjoy the callbacks to their original deaths. That, and getting to see Tenebrae in his original body.
That's a cool Easter egg
I like the detail of tenebrae having pitch black eyes as described in the book
Me too!!! Why is it not red??
@@Hitmonchris5678 Because in the book Tenebrae is described as a dark force nexus. As a child he was described with eyes "black as space"
Enginskywalks so he was pure evil in the force!!!
What's the book name again?
@@roberthelmey205 It's called "Revan"
For me out of those 3 "Personalities" Valkorion is by far most majestic and interesting, in a way his former wife perfectly described him as someone who can be truly wise and benevolent but still harber great darkness inside him. And Valkorion's voice actor is damn great too.
You know, before Tenebrae got hold of Valkorion's body, he was truly wise and benevolent.
Vitiate's original voice is better is just that they kind of lessen it here, maybe on purpose, so it does not sound as deep as before and it ended being outshadowed by Valkorion's and Tenebrae's mostly because of fanservice, though Valkorion's voice is really good. Rewatch the original battle with him in the hero of thyton storyline, i think it does a damn great job portraying Vitiate as this misterious figure who is supposed to be the greatest threat in the galaxy, outclassing even Malgus but at the same time looking simply human, it kind of reminds me of the tall man and it gives you the vibe that you think you are fighting just a man or another sith and yet you know that he is not, he is something else, and even though he got little time in screen his lines were on point, i mean he literally knows all reality and beyond so everything he says must be interesting so him explaining his plans gotta be the coolest line in all swtor the deliver is just that good.
Too bad all of his "benevolence" was all something that doesn't really last because he wouldn't even blink when choosing between himself and others. If stepping on his wife's head is the quickest way to attaining permanent immortality do not doubt for a second that he would do it in a heartbeat.
@@jakobrenner2230 Valkorion was the Protector of Zakuul back when his kids were young, he used to train them, later on Vitiate got hold of his body and he proclaimed himself Emperor of Zakuul. Valkorion's true mind might not be gone, it might be somewhere in the galaxy
@@rookie8302 Which body is which? if you dont mind explaining
So basically they took Episode 9 and made it good.
?
@@mikapoful The eternal Sith xD
Other way around
It's far from good, but certainly not as utterly miserable.
@@orpheusepiphanes2797 the movie sucked
God I love the use of the Kotor theme, Jedi's fury, and Padme's funeral in their respective roles. I love how many of the people repeated past quotes like "in the end you are nothing" and "you presume limits to my power".
-At the and, as the darkness takes me, i am nothing...
-Impressive. Most impressive
Sweet to know I'm not the only one who caught that
"I am endless!"
"And I...am the Outlander."
Outlander... Lol such a cringe name.
@@kallekallessons Which was the final death of this guy?
@@mr.ditkovich6379 What? In Swtor's 6.2 update I guess?
@@kallekallessons Yes
@@mr.ditkovich6379 I'm confused.
In the Revan novel, Bastila doesn't follow Revan into dark space to confront Tenebrae because she discovered she was pregnant. Seven years later, she again can't follow Meetra/the exile to rescue Revan, because she had to stay and watch over their son. And centuries later, those decisions ensure Tenebrae's ultimate defeat. Because Bastila made sure their bloodline would continue, Satele, a descendent of Revan and Bastila, was able to lure Tenebrae into a trap, where his most powerful enemies could all convene and destroy him once and for all
Such a poetic ending. It's so fitting!
I see you've read the book. Man, I absolutely LOVED that book. That book, tied with the **Book of Sith: Secrets of the Dark Side** are my favorite all-time Star Wars books.
A fitting end. Iconic, ironical really.
That it would be the descendant of revan & bastila ensnares him in her own trap by pumping his ego.
Making him think he was winning against her will
@@journeyman_otb3983I actually hate it it ruined the kotor games in my eyes
We better get Vitiate and Tenebrae's outfits on the Cartel Market.
We still need Valkorion and Emperor Vowrawn’s outfits
@@NefariousSpecter I really want Vowrawn's onslaught outfit with the hood. That would be some sick armor.
They keep removing outfits from there idc whats the matter with them
Vitiate's outfit is basically just the "Resort Swimwear" outfit retextured.
@@valo2229
You mean Tenebrae, not Vitiate.
First time i played this and i killed him, I though "huh, thats it?" And then I thought about it and i realized I LOVED how anticlimatic it feels. You spend YEARS stopping this guy at every turn, and when he thinks he has the last laugh, thinking that he knows so much more than you could ever hope, everyone just comes around and kinda goes "nah, you're over" and just tears him down into nothing. Pride was his ultimate weakness, and we made him realize how utterly insignifigant he was. An anticlimatic death was perfect for him.
I AM MASTER TO ALL SITH!
NOT ONE CAN CHALLENGE MY POWER!
That line gave me goosebumps. The voice acting is the best, incredible
The best comeback to this as a Sith is " Turning on the master is the core philosophy of the sith!"
In the words of Darth Revan himself , "In time, the apprentices will unite their strength and overthrow the Master. It is inevitable. Axiomatic ".
That is why each Master must only have one Student.
@@darthkaton Kreia didn't get the memo lol
@@chocochipjewel In her defense, she had greater plans going on behind the scenes that required more than one apprentice. Also, remember, she had lost to Scion on purpose to see these plans through. But I get the example still.
Really wasted opportunity to let the sound design teams go nuts for the final fight by having Tenebrae, Vitiate and Valkorion's voices overlapped/echoing one another like what Dave Filoni did with Vader/Anakin in Star Wars Rebels
@@PlayingGames97 He recorded at home cause of Covid, not really anything to do with the budget.
@@generalgrievous262 editing could still make it happen
Glad Revan was brought back, even if it was only for a small role.
Otter_Boom
Yee and I think Meetra is here too but idk I think maybe it's not her idk
@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity no they’re not lol you guys claim that but yet never say how lol.
@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity he wanted to destroy vitiate lol at all costs lol. Nostalgia blinds all.. you’re the type of person who shat on the prequels and well we got pissney wars now rather than legitimate Star Wars lol.
@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity and we hate the sequel trilogy lol.
@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity Revan did exactly what he would have done had the story continue. Could you improve some of it of course you can improve anything. You could improve the OT in a lot ways by touching things up and making it more realistic while also doing that to the original release as well. It’s a matter or not if people
Like you are gonna be pissy about logical
Story progression or nostalgia blinding your logically thinking.
Revan the man prepared for decades
For centuries actually....
Five years from now... "Somehow Tenebrae/Valkorion/Vitiate returned."
I’m back bitches
With a fleet of 1000000000000000 TIE fighters piloted by ewoks with the capacity to destroy star systems
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul And if you don't like it you are probably racist and sexist.
it's what he did in my roleplay group lol
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul Don't give Disney any ideas!
While this feels much like everyone coming back to end Thanos, I appreciate all the callbacks to Kotor with this ending.
"And in the end as the darkness takes me, I am nothing."
The last thing missing for me would've had Malak come up behind Meetra as well. After all, he was also manipulated just as Revan was.
I don’t mind the endgame reference because this is how I always wanted Vitiate to go out way before endgame even came out
This references Dark empire Sidious's end tbh.
It wouldve been alot more badass and emotional if they included the kotor companions/characters aswell since the emperor technically affected or set the course of events of their lives too
@@codesuzakugeass no not really. Dark empire end was Sidious literally being pulled down to Hell
@@khalduras784 Dragged down by literally every single jedi in history, there is parallel. Both required Force spirits returning in magnitude to deal with the threat.
Tenebrae and Revan voices are amazing.
Tenebrae is voiced by Anthony Skordi! He's in another piece of star wars media - he's "Admiral Versio" in the Battlefront 2 (2017) singleplayer campaign
Now this is the true trilogy or saga what BioWare has written and expanded on outdues anything at the moment Disney stars wars has done in their movie verse at least till now.
Satele showed why she is the Grandmaster of the Jedi order.
Grand mistress idk why star wars is like this
@@analothor Grandmaster is a tittle and it is gender neutral. Similar to how no matter your gender you are still a "Lord of the Sith".
@@MegaAgamon but why should it be when they can gave terms like jedi mistress and dark lady of the sith ?
@@analothor because it rings of a higher position / authority that way
@@ArchVile98 not really
9:54 She said the thing!
SHE SAID THE THING
Like father, like daughter!
It doesn't have the same ring, nor is it true.
Echoes of Oblivion tied a lot of things up with SWTOR's story, but the thing I appreciate the most is them giving Darth Marr one last bow.
This is like the dialed down version of what happened to Legends Palpatine. Every fking Jedi in history was called upon to imprison him
Squezz Siege in many aspects I find Tenebrae to have been far more terrifying than Palpatine. My boy Sheev may have been a Goku level prodigy when it came to Force powers and techniques but Tenebrae was on something else. My guy was casually dividing his spirit and will across the galaxy upon countless beings early in his long af life. Palpatine was naturally gifted at like every dark side ability to speak of but the one technique he couldn't ever really get down was Essence Transfer and Ancient Rituals.
Yea youre absolutely right. Id say Palpatine was stronger then Tenebrae overall but Tenebraes use of his rituals and magic along with his goal to annihilate everything more terrifying
@@PlayingGames97 yeah, he wasn't so bad to the point that he was getting his souls stuck in other beings or failing an untold amount of time but the man did float in the void/chaos for like a year before he could get to one of his clone bodies; the entire process being extremely painful. Vitiate on the other hand was puppeteering thousands of people early in his life while near his end he could dominate the majority beings on a planet. Or if he chose to, could impart a portion of spirit into his "Children/Voices". Each were a worthy host of his power and wouldn't crumble at the presence of his dark side aura. Though I must say in Palpatine's defense, his physician did sabotage his new clone bodies. We never got to see how well they actually held up if they were normal grown bodies 🤔
@@blackshogun272 that's because ever since the decanonize of the EU, bioware got more freedom to do whatever they want with Vitiate even if it goes against the lore to just have him go too crazy in power as that would undermine Sidious
@@khalduras784 not really. Vitiate was already considered stronger then Sidious by most Star Wars fans, even before Disney bought the franchise.
I know a lot of people didn’t like this expansion and the bringing back of Tenebrae but I think this is definitely a satisfying ending that brought everyone together
Everyone has to whine about something to make themselves relevant lol.
Darth Sidious / Palpatine: No one can beat me when it comes to being evil, I am the evilest character in Star Wars
Darth Vitiate / Tenebrae / Valkorion: It's cute that you think that
Exar Kun: Hello there!
Palps slams both of kun and vitiate
Abeloth: "Yeah, can you guys hold it down. Some of us are trying to sleep."
@@QoQabai658 Father Of Shadows: what is this bugs talking about?
@@kilkakolata2153 No. He doesn't. Vitiate had the power to do things that make Palpatine look like a novice.
"And in the end, as the darkness takes me, I am nothing"
Awesome KOTOR reference, got big chills down my body with this
More like milking Kotor once again and forsaking the opportunity to come up with something new
@@tacostastegood3720 cant disagree tbh. But just saying, it was a nice touch
@@Flight_Of_The_Spoon I respect that
@@tacostastegood3720 at the end of the day, this was still technically a part of their story. It would be alot more criminal to leave anything kotor out of this. It wouldve been considered "milking kotor" if they had done it the way shadow of revan did it where they plastered Revan on every ad for that expansion. Instead, this patch was just a nice surprise
@@khalduras784 I disagree there. I wholeheartedly believe Revan should have died long ago. Give him a warrior's death, blade in hand, and say goodbye. Vitiate lived for 1100 years before Revan. And he should have lived the last 300 years of his life without him. Insead they keep Revan prisoner for 300 years and force him down your throat every chance they get so they can market the game as Kotor 3.
If you disagree that's alright. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But I am very displeased by how they handled this.
I like how Scourge is technically the first to rise as he was the first to stand against the Emperor, even before Revan
Not really. Revan actually stood against Vitiate long before Scourge: when he tried (and failed) with Malak to kill the Sith ruler and later when he literally built his own Sith Empire to defend the galaxy against the Emperor.
I love the KOTOR music that plays when Revan shows up.
Triggers some nostalgia
I really wish the armor we see on Tenebrae was available in-game. We need more Pre-Sith Purge Sith Armor in-game.
The armor worn by Tenebrae is similar to the armors worn by anticent sith like Naga Sadow and are inspired by the egyptian Faraons clothing
Try combos of Muur, Sadow, Daragons and some "relaxed" or revanites armour parts.
It's basically a combination of Resort Swimwear top and Karness Murr bottom.
@@samuelebalduzzi5376 the reason it looks similar is because tenebrae and naga sadow both lived in the same time period although naga sadow was a bit older
@@Popityman They were peers, actually. Tenebrae was given the title of Darth Vitiate by Naga Sadow's predecessor as Dark Lord, Marka Ragnos. Meta aside, Darth Vitiate deliberately chose to isolate himself from Sith politics at this time to chase after immortality.
It's also why the Jedi were so left in the dark by Darth Vitiate's existence. Even to his fellow Sith Lords at the time, he was an enigma, a powerful recluse who preferred to stay on Nathema studying the Dark Side in pursuit of immortality. Add to that the Jedi's own destruction of the Old Sith Empire's records and Darth Vitiate's own post-Ritual of Nathema purge of his past identity, and it's no surprise there was little to indicate to anyone who the Sith Emperor actually was. Some Jedi even assumed the Sith Emperor was Naga Sadow, when in reality he was Darth Vitiate.
And to think this still wasn't his full power, just an imprint of how he was at first.
Still it's for the best, as I doubt they would have won, had he been at full capacity.
I think he was going all out but he wouldnt have won regardless
@@squezzsiege2735 unlikely given it was an echo of his power from when he was tenebrae, and not his complete being.
@Mylo Soewandi shouldn't be possible. That was a force echo and remnant. Not his true being because his soul and body was destroyed.
@@k1l3r10 It's kind a insane how strong he is considering it's just an echo. Devoid of experience, wisdom, body or soul.
@@gilgamesh4869 he... actually wasn't devoid of experience: he had the full experience of a Dark Lord of the Sith that ruled a planet for centuries (and enslaved other Sith Lords). He didn't have all the experience of Vitiate but he did have some (a lot actually).
Holy shit what an ending
It's almost like the endgame of star wars
Wish Palpatines send off had been this good
Darth Marr DESERVES his own game.
Something truly epic,with importance of the story and combat in equal measure.😃
I know. Darth Marr is so badass! He is the true Emperor of the Sith, not Tenebrae. He actually cares about them and wants what's best for and to improve their lot
Unfortunately that will never happen because Disney doesn’t want anything new from the real EU, however BioWare could make a mini story like the HK-55 story with Marr but I don’t see that happening with Marr officially one with the force
@@NefariousSpecter
Sad but true.
@@NefariousSpecter
Well, they could make something from before Marr becoming 1 with the Force.
Grandmaster Satele assumed it happened.
She didn't say that he IS, but PROBABLY or something like that.
Same for Revan and Mitra Soreek.
@@NefariousSpecter
In the Mandalorian series from Netflix, a former Jedi Ashoka Tano mentions planet Tython.
Outside of SWTOR,have you ever heard of Tython?
Baby "Yoda" is to go there to decide his(?)future.
Perhaps, SWTOR shall become Canon again.
And Ashoka based on her Lightsabers fights, would destroy Rey(Ray?) within a few seconds.
Or Kylo for that matter.
Well within half a minute anyways. 😄
Clearly whoever is making choreography wasn't very impressed with Sequel Trilogy🤮.
Tenebrae's spirit is in Recovery mode.
exactly. I bet he returns again. hail him
A lot of people really liked the way Thano's died it seems
Haha
The scene with Senya and Vaylin was SO GOOD
The emotions ahhhhhh
I love the Eternal Family so much ❤️
Honestly there more interesting then the Skywalkers, there incredible!
I always hated them 😂 acting all high and mighty and better than "The Outlander". Happily killed them all, especially Arcann's arrogant self.
No they were all annoying, everyone from zakuul was a pain in the ass. Vaylin was kinda hot tho
Absolutely agree with you man!! I wanna see more of them
Vaylin is singlehanded the most annoying brat ever. Not that she has no reason to be mad, shes just annoyng as hell.
Love how distinct all 3 voices are.
Glad to see Revan and Meetra from the previous game comes over to fulfill their destiny, once and for all.
I actually cried when i saw revan and the exile. I was also hoping to see T3M4 hahaha
God i miss kotor
I did the same, cried and yelled. I took a break from SWToR, and just finished this quest. Somehow i didn´t even get spoiled. So when i just experienced it I litteraly scream.. REVAN! Exile!.. it was such a good finish to their story. I even thought that they should give them closure somehow.. and then i experience this. Epic.
Bastila, Malak and Kreia should have been there. I know Bastila and Kreia had nothing to do with Vitiate, but Malak and Revan’s life got fucked up by Vitiate.
Seeing Tenebrae's pureblood form was awesome! Much cooler than Valkorian or any of his Voices. Also avenging Marr was therapeutic! XD Thanks for sharing!
Honestly loving Anthony Skordi as VO choice for Tenebrae.
Puts on an amazing performance.
(Admiral Versio from the recent Star Wars Battlefront II.)
My only happiness from ending him was that now my Sith is the most powerful Sith in the galaxy.
A true darth Knox
15:27 Syo Bakarn! I always loved the consular story and to see old characters who've been victims of Tenebrae return is awesome!
Sad Syo got booted from the council, but at least he got to see justice done at last.
@@FreakDaMIghet
Booted is way too harsh of a word I think.
With 1st Son still within him, he was way to dangerous.
Never know when he might loose control again.
@@GameslordXY Well, with Tenebrae gone, thr First Son might also be finished. But you never know.
I agree. I played this story as my Sith Warrior but it was nice to see him included. Hopefully now the First Son is gone from him now that Tenebrae is finally dead.
@@FreakDaMIghet
Sure, but they couldn't have known at the time.
The responsibility of the Jedi High Council is above and beyond extreme.
Physical world and afterlife as well.
To some extent anyways.
And even if they did know, I doubt they would be able to handle it.
Perhaps they would, perhaps not.
This is basically Judgement Day for the Emperor. Confronted with his actions, the people he manipulated, hurt, betrayed, and murdered.
One little thing I noticed. When Valkorian and vitiate turned to stone, they were shielding themselves from something above them. It’s basically the Force acting as a god and delivering justice.
Let us hope that this is the final end for Tenebrae. A fitting end for the man who destroyed so many lives in pursuit of his ambitions and desire for power and immortality. Before everyone who has been affected by him, even his power is nothing.
@@jamesvach6698 5 years later
Somehow the emperor returned
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul Really?
@@jamesvach6698 that's the joke...a joke comment from rise of skywalker
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul Oh, well let's hope that it does not apply in this case. While I am on the subject, I also hope that Palpatine will not be making any more appearances if they ever make more movies. Both emperors have proven themselves to be good main antagonists, but I think that both of them have thoroughly worn out their welcome both in-universe and out of it. Just my thoughts.
5:41 the protagonist of KOTOR, KOTOR II, and Old Republic in one shot :)
whos the voice actor than Tenebrae body. he sounds real badass. and menacing more so then the Vitiate body and Valkorion one.
I think it's Steve Blum.
@@izuniaberg1227 it kind of sounds like him, but i looked at his profile and all and there is no trace of him saying it he played that role.
@Emperor Vitiate i know that i am asking who played Tenebrae the black eyed sith.
Tenebrae is voiced by Anthony Skordi.
@@Anetron1 are you sure, i looked him up and there is no record of him playing in the old republic.
honestly tenebrae acts quite a bit different than his valkorion/vitiate self, tenebrae shows more emotion such as anger and hate, and acts alot more devoted to the sith than his other 2 versions. he definetely changed quite a bit over his years. while vitiate/valkorion hardly showed any anger or hate.
It matches how Tenebrae was very much the best at the Sith game, including leading the Sith from extinction, then he became something more like a void/anomaly over time.
Well the other two or more just extensions of him anyway, not perfect clones. So it makes sense that they might be lacking a bit.
That's because it's not really him. This 'Tenebrae' is an echo of who he was centuries ago. It actually makes him less dangerous than the Emperor the PCs have previously fought against. For all that 'Tenebrae' sneers at his original for getting distracted by empires and families, the original's experience made him wiser and more dangerous. 'Tenebrae' let his sadism get to him, trying to simultaneously possess Satele and drain her students, buying the PCs time to stop him. The original would have just focused on possessing Satele before killing her students, such that by the time the PCs arrived, it would already be too late.
Darth Marr is kind of a GOAT. If something is going down, this man is there to get things done by any means, even if that means turning to the light.
Never thought I’d see a Sith version of the Trinity in the Bible…..but I’m happy I did!!!
This is arguably the best, most impactful moment in SWTOR. Arguably the “Avengers Endgame” of SWTOR. We had played the game for a decade to get to this point. Such a phenomenal story expansion.
I was scared to get a full expension with the emperor coming back back back back again but this was really cool and enough :).
See Disney? THAT'S how you make a Star Wars movie!
No, they prefer make a feminist + LGBT movie.
I hate what they did to the Sith.
Disney doesn't make Star Wars.
Outlander: How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man!!
"Everything ends. Even you." Is that......IS THAT MEETRA?!?!?!?!
Kevin Norwood
I think so it's hard to tell imo I think she didn't have sleeves
@@75JUNAKI Saw a version of this with subtitles last night. That IS Meetra Surik!
@@kevinnorwood8782 The exile 😮
1:04 Impressive, most impressive
Proving once again that Darth Traya was right all along.
There must always be a Darth Traya.....
@@0ninja213
One that holds the knowledge of betrayal......
@@punishedvenomsnake716 who has been betrayed in their heart, and will betray in turn..
How does tenevrae death probé her ritgh? Im curious
@@ddpzzp553 cause she said that the exile and revan will go to the unknown regions, confront and eventually defeat Tenebrae. She did know that something controlled the mandalorian wars, and it was never the mandalorians choice to fight against the republic. Traya also knew that the mandalorian wars were a setup for the New Sith Wars that take place in SWTOR. The mandalorian wars were planned by the Sith Emperor in the unknown regions. Tenebrae used his sith ritual to blind a lot of Jedi to follow Revan to war, and to influence the entire mandalorian army to go rouge. He did this to make the Jedi tiny and the republic weak, so they could ultimately defeat both of them.
The Tenebrae story needs to be made into a series.
Disney would mess him up, just read book 2 of Legacy of the Force, and see how much they changed Boba Fett
You think after the train wreck they cause with the Sequels that Disney would make his story great? Or that they'd make a series about the Dark side? Lol Disney are not only too light hearted and child friendly but they also destroy star wars stories. Best if they left the entire old republic lore alone and preserve it's reverence as it is.
@@ReveredDead Damn it, I said SERIES - meaning TV - EG Mandalorian - Not MOVIES. People can't read for SHIT.
@@NefariousSpecter As a Boba fan who will likely never read that, can you tell me how they changed Boba? Genuinely curious
If it must be a series, Dave Filoni should be given the helm of directing it. The series should have a similar number of episodes like the Mandalorian does, with either 1 hour long episodes or 45 minutes at the least. I just hope if the Exile is ever featured, that she gets the best portrayal she deserves.
Tenebrae sith voice is so creepy, it's ideal to this character.
I like how the KOTOR 2 theme plays when the 3 of them appear.
Its so weird hearing valkorion when he isnt a ghost thing. His voice sounds normal
When I first played this I was like.... Really? That's it? YEARS of fighting this guy and it ends so... "suddenly"? I was a little disappointed. I expected it to be... more and much longer. However, the more I think about it, and replay it on another character, the more I like it. The more I am like, "It may not be a super long ending and more than a sudden 'oh he ded', but it's great.".
I really REALLY loved Tenabrae. I just wished it didn't feel so "sudden" - however that's just me. It's amazing still. Really love how everything works.
Really loved the clapback of Vaylin's "You presume limits to my power. There are none!" like boom, roasted!
Can't kill a God ;)
@@EniGmav34 I think he's gone this time for real though.
@@FriendlyKat ...again
14:10 Love how the way he says he’s inmortal
I just played this and I realized that it literally is bioware and all the other companies EA has destroyed or betrayed and all the gamers coming together to put a stop to the tyranny of electronic arts once and for all. Truly heartwarming.
I like how they got Salli Saffioti back to voice the Exile again.
And Dough Bradley for Vitiate, of course. :3
I don't want an eternal TV show, I want an eternal movie, this family and this saga is wayyyyy to big to be only a show I mean there called eternals for christ sake and the entire family are the most powerful force users at that time and one of the most powerful ever to exist i mean the two cinematic trailers had more meaning and depth then anything else and we need that kind of depth on the big screen and to be honest a story like that is bigger and deeper then the Skywalkers, the eternal empire is the perfect story and we need it!
@Sven Lumia because TOR is an still existing content of legends that still being produce if they shut it down they would also piss off the majority of players
15:59 I love how you hear the Reinhardt in his voice! (For those who don’t know, Valkorion’s voice actor plays Reinhardt in Overwatch!)
Tenebrae is harder to get rid of than Orochimaru.
You can put him down a million times, but there's always that doubt that he's really gone
Makes me think of Abeloth in a way, even after stabbing her with the mortis dagger, the only known weapon able to kill a member of The Ones, Luke Skywalker had doubts that she was truly gone.
That never happened, Luke when to search for the mortis dagger after Abeloth sunk in the Lake of Apparitions
@@NefariousSpecter might have forgotten, has been a while.
My emperor overwhelmed all of those 'heroes' at 14:21, before the Force itself interfered. Long live the Sith Emperor!!!
"I am master to all Sith!"
- My Emperor
KOTFE, KOTET and Echoes of Oblivion would be a much better trilogy than the Sequels
this was so dope but so short. such a long time to wait for such little story...
All hail the bass boost voice of the eternal emperor!
a god has no family!!!
-valkorian
Ebedi İmparatorumuz'dan Emir Timur'un bahsedeceğini kim bilebilirdi?
@@Artukarslan5439 dimi
Makes me wonder what would happen if you put palpatine and vitiate in the same room with each other
Sheevy is no match for Tenebrae.
@@astrobookwormsinger
It was stated that Palpatine is the most powerful sith so Palp wins
@@stormalexandrioz4308
Eh, who cares what was said.
Tenebre would just come back again and again and aga... .
AND AGAIN!!! 😁😁😁
Eventually Shiv would just... give up and die.
Am I not wise and smart? 😎
@@stormalexandrioz4308 Tbf that was stated before SWTOR was created
Both always come back
Tenebre, the singular most powerful sith to ever exist, eclipsing that of sidious, and possibly rivaling the mortis gods in power.
Just realized Senya and Tenebrae have the same hair
3:37 When you are an Admin from Discord server:
The voice actor of tenebrae is also the voice of Admiral Garrick versio in Battlefront 2
Poor JJ can only dream of writing something like this
I've always wondered what would happen if Vitiate and Nihilus faced each other. Left unchecked, both of them would have eventually consumed the entire galaxy. It's a case of who drains who. Comment on who wins and why 💀
@Aspen I'm inclined to agree. All that experience too
I have to agree that Vitiate wins. Nihilus is powerful enough to drain planets as well, but unlike Vitiate, he actually needs to constantly in order to survive. Vitiate, on the other hand, doesn't have that limitation.
I love that Doug Bradley is Vitiate
This story has more endings than LOtR lol
Valkorion's story in a nutshell: When you play with God Mode but the game rules still kill you.
Vitae was the Palpatine before Palpatine. He came from humble origins, rose to power when the Sith were at their lowest ebb through deception, and managed to maintain power by turning the Sith from an inbred tribe to a proselytizing ideology that could spread beyond their original Korriban base. . And finally he managed to achieve immortality and create a second Sith empire that came to replace the first.
While Palpatine was a Banite Sith to the core, he could never have created an empire without Vititae's previous experience, which taught him that if you want to stay in power, you have to proselytize your ideals and be flexible enough to include everyone in your empire, Sith and non-Sith.
Ironically what brought Sidious down was the fact that he wanted to transform his empire from a military autocracy to an oficial Sith theocracy too quickly, which caused even his imperial supporters to stop supporting him.
That's interesting, I didn't know that Palpatine had many supporters turning on him by the time of his downfall. I mean, in a new hope he did have enough political power to dissolve the Senate.
@@theazureknight9399 The inner circle and the other high officials were loyal to him, but for the New Hope he earned the enmity of the Imperial Army, especially after the Death Stars.
The military had trusted Palpatine in the hope that they would have a voice in his government and that he would eliminate the political-Jedi coruscanti caste, only to be slapped in the face when Sidious created a personal court of sycophants and placed them under Vader's authority and other darksider hitmen.
It took Kira Carsen, Scourge, Revan, Meetra Surik, Senya, Thexan, Arcaan, Vaylin, Darth Maar and Satele Shan (and you) to take this guy down. Think about it lol
Don’t forget the spirits of all the other people he’s killed over ages
@@melissadiaz7642 and betrayed
Genuinely an awesome boss fight
So basically if you piss enough people with psychic Force powers off, you're screwed.
I want to meet a person who told Revan to stay out of his way. I fangirled when I saw him.
After his final defeat, Vitiate's soul was imprisoned for eternity in Chaos, being unable to rest in peace even he wished for it. Eventually, he stopped thinking.
IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE ?!!!!!! XD
I think Tenebrae was wiped from existence.
14:01 don't know why but i love this take at Vitiate he looks so menacingly i kinda wish it was palpatine.
Tenebrae is the greatest of all the Sith Lords. He lived nearly 1,500 years through knowledge of Force sorcery and alchemy second to none. The only other sith that I can think of that even comes remotely close to Tenebrae's power is Darth Nihlus. As a darkside entity, the way he had to live was to feed off force energy destroying planets just like Tenebrae did.
He's been around since the time of marka ragnos reign
"Jedi nonsense!"
"Precisely."
LOL. Sassy Satele.
*sastele
Revan: Yeah, you got that from Bastila's side of the bloodline.
I’m not sure that Shan’s “trap” makes sense. This was an “backup”, it seems a little of that he was to arrogant to just finish his resurrection, but scared enough to have a backup.
What did he basically have to do exactly? Just completely overwhelm them mentally? I’ve never understood how that and essence transfer works exactly and what is actually involved.
@@vitiate5093 If you want to know how essence transfer works yeah you pretty much overwhelm your vessel mentally as your body is consumed by the dark side. If your will is strong enough it will succeed and vanquish the other mind, if not and you get rejected your spirit is lost to Chaos, which is part of the Netherworld of the Force.
@@RollingOnTheFloorDooming ah I see so did he manage to even remotely succeed and move on or did he just succeed partially and get arrogant enough to not finish it.
@@vitiate5093 If we are still talking in terms of essence transfer I'm not sure. I don't think Valkorion tried Essence Transfer this time, he just imprinted an earlier version of his mind to his original body. In that he succeeded. What exactly happened to his actual spirit isn't known but it is likely destroyed for good after the "real" last battle against him which happened earlier.
@@RollingOnTheFloorDooming I mean it would’ve been sent to chaos.
I cried when i saw revan and the exile
Wow Satele is very smart to make that plan
I 'finally' got to see 'thee' true Tenebrae. The only pure blooded sith who was as evil as him was Dathka Graush.
I would have liked this better if it wasn't so clearly divided into "light" and "dark", "right" and "wrong". If it blurred the lines, if it made clearer the centuries of cunning it took Tenebrae to become what he became; not just the Emperor, not just the most powerful Sith to ever live, considering both past and future, but a being of such a mind that he could manipulate the galaxy, generation after generation, to do his bidding, whether they knew it or not.
If Satele's students broke under his influence, because even though he divided his power, there is still something about him that almost let him win; something that would instill a sense of terror within us, the players, something that made clear just how nearly undefeatable Tenebrae really was.
Instead, they made a big fight with very clearly cut sides, big effects, and called it good. It's a shame; all the lore, the story, the immersion built up and thrown away on the final stretch for a humiliation, a happy ending; but the fight is meaningless if the own side doesn't suffer any losses.
If only they had shown us just how close Tenebrae got to victory yet again, how he was beaten on a whim of fate alone; how, even with all these "heroes" assembled, it still takes a lot of luck on their side to win. If only they had given us an enemy who was overcome just barely; if only he had stripped away ally after ally to leave just the player (and Kira and Scourge, in the case of the Knight) who stands victorious in the end - victory, but at great loss. A battle worthy of the greatest warriors the galaxy had ever seen.
In all my years playing swtor I had one big complaint. That Satele didn't feel worthy of the grandmaster title. She looked too young, too inexperienced and didn't give me the grandmaster vibes.
Until that moment, until Echoes of Oblivion where she shown that she is the grandmaster of the order for a reason.
Let’s be honest, this is rise of sky walker, but just done right
I’d say it’s more endgame then tros
@@NefariousSpecter Yes, but TRoS tried being Endgame. That's the point. They both are trying to be Endgame, but SWTOR does it better because it's, at the very least, consistent with itself and built it up with characters you actually can like.
@@MotleyNerd they write a consistent story people trash Revan but Revan as he was in swtor is actually what would’ve happened. He was not gonna be at peace fully till Tenebrae joined him fully in death. I don’t get why people are so pissed about that.. being some dude’s Bitch for 3 centurions would suck.
@@MotleyNerd it would also take a toll on you and rob you of your sanity. It doesn’t take much for someone who is in total isolation to go insane I’d expect the same thing would occur in Star Wars.
@@vitiate5093 They're pissed mainly for two reasons, and the first is more relevant to most than others.
1.) The players played as Revan, so they took it personally when a character they considered their own, as an outlet for their own choices in the first game, was treated wrong in their eyes. The fact that he was made into "some dude's bitch for 3 centuries" is what made them mad in the first place.
2.) The character and the series were originally written in and were meant to go in a completely different direction. Take these two videos here for reference: ruclips.net/video/cc94zC1RvTY/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/KQ-0aoCsCU4/видео.html
I subscribe more to the second one, as I preferred (and grew up more with) TSL anyhow. That said, I do have my own personal gripes with how SWTOR handles what was even at that point considered fully canon, such as the Sith of the Great Hyperspace War having retreated into the Unknown Regions in the western disk of the galaxy, and the Chiss Ascendancy being based deep in that region. They instead pushed the reconstituted Sith Empire nonsensically into the Stygian Caldera, where they had been followed to during the Great Hyperspace War, and they moved the Chiss Ascendancy into Sith Space near the Stygian Caldera as well, including their homeworld of Csilla, which is canonically on the other side of the galaxy beyond the Great Hyperspace Disturbance. They completely broke canon for the sake of SWTOR instead of molding the lore and story of the game around canon in a creative way.
One thing that is really well done here is that they don't have the same voice. Voice boxes are different after all. If my spirit occupied my sister's body I would speak with her voice.