Disagree on Cher & Josh. Josh and Cher never had a sibling bond, and they didn't even grew up together. People need to learn that step doesn't mean necessarily to have a family bond.
@@tmr3421 And that doesn't make sense. There were times in that movie that he stood up for her. But let's be honest, Cher wasn't the most down to earth being, he didn't have to agree on everything she did... For example, on how she was interfering in Tai's life.
Plus, it's based on Jane Austen's Emma, so it makes no sense for her to be with anyone else. Unless they want to take it up with Jane, who is very long dead.
Yep, Nate getting mad at Andy in the devil wears prada for having a demanding job always rubbed me the wrong way. She would have been better off without him.
@violet baudelaire I do agree with that, and if I'm being honest, having not seen the movie yet all I've heard from this movie makes me think Anne Hathaway's character was probably in a toxic working environment, and I would definitely tell her to quit too (tell me if I'm wrong tho lol)
naah, You don't understand the lesson of that movie. Andy will end up like Miranda's life if she continue that path. Miranda have a successful career but she was not happy.
yea but that demanding job was something she didn't even really like... and i think i would have been pretty upset if my s/o took something they hate over me - someone i thought they liked.
violet baudelaire Andy was a young college graduate with no experience trying to break in to a competitive field . She had to pay her dues! She only had to work that job for one year and it could’ve opened doors for her. Now if you’re established in your career and you’re neglecting your significant other that’s one thing but this was her first job out of school and it’s not going to be ideal, fun or accommodating. Furthermore, they lived in New York and the cost of living there is outrageously expensive. You have to work! Nate was being self centered and immature, period! There’s couples out here who barely see each other because they’re busy working multiple jobs/going to school/taking care of kids, etc. trying to make ends meat. Plenty of women deal with men who work long hours because it allows them a comfortable life. My parents worked opposite shifts growing up because they weren’t comfortable putting us in daycare. My point is Andy was making sacrifices that many people make everyday trying to be successful and prosper. She was not drugging, drinking or partying. She was just working long hours.
@@cristinarivera5707 She wasn't just working long hours. She worked for an abusive boss who even outside of working hours called her to pass tasks, leaving her stressed and consequently, ending any quality time she could have in her "free time". She couldn't even get dinner with her father.
I hate this modern trope of "the guy who got there first is the best guy" usually these men are manipulative, abusive, bad communicators, and only have "good tropes" like being hot and rich.
Yep! My first serious relationship was with a guy who later on became very abusive. I am now engaged to a guy who I was friends with during that other relationship. Sometimes better things come along!
Your evidence for Cher and Josh is unfounded. Josh was the one who understood her the whole time. He knows the kind of person she is and his criticism comes from wanting her to be more than she thinks. He pushes her to be better! Plus, he is always there for her when she needs him. He takes her driving, picks her up from the sun valley, goes to a party, and always talks to her. You spent too much time trying to convince people of this perfect match and not enough time on the ridiculousness of Something Borrowed!
Cher and Josh complement each other. He totally gets her and she brings some fun to his seriousness. They fit perfectly. The early bickering always seemed to come from a close connection and not from any animosity.
@somber stricken that’s not what fridging is. They don’t die to drive the plot forward. Though I hate in movies where they put the nice guy in when everyone knows they don’t have a chance. Creating sequels with these plots are such a waste of time. They tease a little drama that goes nowhere in the end, leaving the girl with who she was with in the first place
@@raybrown9543 I know what it means to fridge, I was just saying that they create these innocent characters, that have no other purpose than to give the protagonist a hard choice. I didn't mean that they killed literally off the boyfriends.
Cher and Josh should not be on this list! They are not considered step siblings anymore because their parents got divorced so they should have the right to be together if they want.(If they were still step siblings then THAT would be gross) Plus they are so cute together and you can tell from the look on Cher's face that she is happy with their decition.
I agree one million percent. Why do people think she chose wrong? They loved each other before they met and Joe knew it and he knew they'd be perfect together. Besides, the final words by Kathleen tells it all: "I wanted it to be you. I wanted it to be you so badly."
Shouldn't this just be called "bad movie couples" instead of characters that pick the wrong guy? Half or these movies didn't present an alternative guy for the main character to chose. Although I appreciate the instances nowhere there was and they said neither one was a good option.
Actually in the wedding planner she didn't run away from her wedding to run off with Steve. She thought he was getting married. She ran away from her wedding because she realized she shouldn't be getting married to someone she wasn't in love with. Steve is the one who left his wedding to run away with her although his end to the wedding was a mutual thing between him and his fiance
And she didn't actually "run away". Massimo let her go because he knew she wouldn't be happy. She was perfectly willing to marry him, but he let her go.
Seriously. I think she should have picked John especially in the books, where they made Peter’s hangups on Gen even more clear. And I just generally did not like book Peter.
@@beckyb.2549 book Peter was the worst. I had a theory where the author, Jenny Han, made the third book just to have it as Peter's redemption book. Because she made it 2 years after the second book was released and it was a shock for all the fans because there were no notices that she's releasing a 3rd book lol.
It's stupid to say that Josh didn't understand Cher. When it comes to Clueless it's almost entirely from Cher's perspective. I'm pretty sure there is only one scene she's not a part of and it's about her anyway. We don't really get into Josh's head, we know how Cher describes him, we know how he acts and what he says but Cher is the narrator and pretty unreliable if you ask me. Not because she's lying or anything like that but because she's literally clueless.
Yessss! Exactly. I hated how her friends were keeping her from her phone and giving her a hard time, right after she gave them all expensive gifts. Pissed me off.
@@anthyavila9726 well it's applied. It doesn't show if they actually do. When they meet for coffee and they're more mature about the situation and what not.
Likewise, I know that in showbiz, you have to sacrifice a lot for success, which includes romantic relationships. But even though Mia and Sebastian are both separately fulfilled, it STILL comes as a shock to learn that they ultimately went their separate ways. 😭💔
@@trinaq Sebastian sacrificed success for a militant vision. In real life he's the guy whining that no one has integrity and self sabotages rather than compromise a little to get a lot
No. If Peter truly had an respect for Lara Jean he wouldn’t force her to be around a girl who bullied her relentlessly, even in front of him, invited Gen to the treehouse party and most of all protected her when she filmed that video! An absolute deal breaker! Yea LJ was still figuring out how to be in a relationship, it was her first one, and she was insecure, but what hope could she have of ever being truly comfortable when Peter constantly lied about his interactions with Gen and never truly stood up for her. (It’s even worse in the book)
"Gatsby was obsessed with her, and Tom wanted to control her"- huh... Af if Daisy would appreciate someone who treated her good unless she could take advantage of the man.
Yeah Daisy's always been ridiculously annoying to me. When I first saw the Great Gatsby my junior year of High School I thought her and Jay were cute together. That changed after the ending where she doesn't even show up for his funeral and stays with her shitty husband for money essentially. Her cousin was the only one heartbroken about his best friends death. Yeah Daisy's the worst
You are soooo... aright, he is a super guy in every movie, but I kind of relief that un The Notebook Lando doesn't end up with Allie; he deserves better than the undecided and obsessive drama queen that she is
I have to agree... Noah and Allie had a great first love but I think the movie would've been just as good if they'd both moved on and then after a number of years their spouses died and they found their way back to each other and lived out their old age together
Yeah she deserves the la la land love story of a man who loves her so much her happiness and realizing her dreams is worth more to him than just being with her
I agree with most of the list but Cher?? I don't get why she shouldn't be with Josh, I mean he's in his way to be a lawyer and his father and Cher knows him, he's also a great guy and he had a great connection with her.
Cher and Josh are perfect together, its ridiculous to state otherwise. Clueless is an adaptation of Jane Austen's Emma. Cher = Emma, a matchmaker who doesnt realise she's in love with her sister's brother-in-law until its almost too late. Clueless removed the sister and sister's husband from the equation, but not the timeless romance that is central to the plot and theme!!
I agree, in every Romance James Marsden is in they always choose someone else when he is the better choice. I agree with a few choices on this list but not about Cher. I love them together!
Cher and Josh were great together!! I love their relationship And for Mia and Sebastian, I thought their romance was a more realistic portrayal of how romances sometimes just can't work out, when you're going off in different directions
But if they chosen "the wrong guy" doesn't that mean that maybe they didn't like the guy that liked them, in that way? Isn't that called "unrequited love"? You cannot force yourself to love someone, no matter how much you might like them as a person. Plus, these are movies that were completely made up in fiction. Even so, let women choose who they want to be with, love is a two-way street, not a one-way.
I don't think they mean it as factual. Just their opinion on who should have been endgame. Of course women are allowed to date who they want. But people are still going to have an opinion. You've never had a friend who's boyfriend or girlfriend you thought was a complete moron? Their right to date, your right to cringe.
They literally asked viewers to pick who they wish had been chosen in these movies it's not as deep as you're trying to make it out to be. More than likely most of these choices were picked by women viewers 😂 no one is attacking our right to choose
Okay so despite Danny acting like a douchebag in front of his friends can we acknowledge that he did try to become a guy who sandy would like after she started dating Tom. He tried out for multiple different sports and ended up taking up running. Sandy obviously wasn't that amazing either since she dropped Tom the moment Danny fell over.
I liked the La La Land ending. Personally I thought the fact that they didn't end up together fit with the fact that their relationship started with both of them working towards their dreams, and they naturally grew apart as their paths diverged. I think La La Land works as a movie because it's so seeped in nostalgia and their relationship is coloured by those rosy lens. But the reality is more complicated and I think the movie showed why their relationship worked better as a nostalgic memory of the foibles of youth.
YEEESSS. One of the only dramas where this didn't happen was "Dream High" ♡ She ends up with the nice guy. And "Heirs" is complicated because the other guy is actually kind of mean. (OG Kdrama fan lol)
@@TheWannabeTexan I think the heirs actually is the only one who didn't made a bad guy male lead and let him get the girl and the nice guy was the one girl loved.... Idk why ppl hate it and wanted the bully to get the girl.. I love the heirs, mostly all characters was well explained and get what they deserved...
Most of the movie was him trying to change for her. All of the sports was him trying to change for her. Her only change was at the end... and that was just her looks. I think what is implied at the end is that it didn’t matter. As is typical with teens, back then as well as now, there is too much pressure on how you are perceived.
So on board with La La Land and Pretty in Pink! Also, Thank you for finally acknowledging that Danny changed in Grease as well! I get so frustrated when people criticize Grease because Sandy "had to" change to get the guy (she CHOSE to change), but never acknowledge Danny's changing either, so thank you. As for Gatsby (which also fires me up despite my loathing it), Daisy was afraid of rejecting Tom. Tom scared her into not standing up for herself, and honestly, if you really look at the story, Gatsby didn't truly love her either by the end, she was just a goal for him (I did a huge college paper on this story, so I've spent an exorbitant amount of time with it, and it's extremely obvious when you look at it closely).
The funny thing is that in the third book she falls in love with another man and Massimo becomes more violent. The problem is that this other man is a rival mobster of Massimo, whom she knows because he also kidnaps her. The book pretends that the second mobster is the real Prince Charming, but it is very naive to think that the guy, another criminal, will not treat her the same as Massimo if she tells him that she abandons him for his worst enemy, after having lost a son.
dont get me wrong i love john, but she just didnt feel for him what she did for peter. Peter and Lara jean did have the occasional toxic moment but they always work it out. The movies did them dirty.
I’m with you. I feel like both Noah and Lee had really terrible relationships with Elle. I haven’t seen the second one because the first seemed so messed up to me.
27 dresses - Jane Nichols; She was in love with her boss, realized that they had nothing in common and that he wasn't "the one" when she finally kissed him. Kevin was "the one" because she had a connection with him and they had a lot of things in common
ok but for To All The Boys 2, i thought that lara jean and peter were meant to be. i love john ambrose but i think that lana and noah have more chemistry than her and jordan. both men are great
Omg... how can you bash on you’ve got mail?! That’s my all time favorite Romantic comedy and feel good film! He likes her and when he realizes she’s the pen pal he starts treating her better and it’s so cute!
Um, excuse me, the phrasing 'Mia makes the safe choice and succeeds in her career, but the audience knows what she could have had' just rubs me extremely wrong here. The main thing this couple loved about each other was that they were both extremely driven people with very ambitios dreams regarding their separate fields. It was basically in the premise that it wouldn't last because sooner or later their dreams will be more important than their relationship. And if we are being completely fair, they were in a situation where it would have been easier for Seb to adapt to her. He didn't have anything at the time that wouldn't let him move with her. But of course we expect the girl to compromise and put her career on hold to keep a relationship together. If she did it would be basically the situation you condemned The Devil Wears Prada for earlier, only here it would be worth it, because Ryan Gosling is dashing and slightly more supportive.
Unfortunately, in the movie “After” storyline with Zed was left apart, but while reading the books I was shipping Zed and Tessa, because her relationship with Hardin shows aspects of toxic relationships, which destroy people from the inside. About Kissing Booth, unfortunately, I haven’t read the books yet, but I 100% agree, that she should’ve been in a relationship with Marco, because I think, that their connection is way stronger than with Noah...
I love the comment about pretty in pink, about how just because ur the nice guy doesn’t mean the girl owes you a relationship. I feel like this happens a lot with my sisters. They have a bunch of male friends who are great to their, and she loves them, but then people expect her to date them just because of that, when all she wants is what she has, which is a great friend
Sky high : layla and warren 🤦🏾♀️ she shoulda picked Warren clearly they had on screen chemistry . Instead sis picked Will , had me so mad as a kid lol
Keanu Reeves has always been a fox. In WHAT universe would any woman pick Nicolson's character over Reeves'? - and it's not just the aesthetic. Nope! I'll comfort you, Dr Keanu ❤
I agree with #10 Andy, she deserved so much better and her friends were rude too. # 7 Mary, is disagree to a degree. I dont think Mary would have been happy with her marriage to Massimo, that was the point of her dad calling it off. He wanted her to be happy.
I didn't really liked Nate, but it is tough to see the person you love working in a place that makes her feel bad and is constantly absuded by their boss. Plus, no one wants to be in a relationship where the other person is never there.
Christian is just a guy who suffered from childhood abuse and now have the need to feel in control. But the Ana is teaching him to finally leave it behind and show him that he doesn't need to be in control all the time. I just wanna see the character growth for Christian.
@@magicalpasta5462 he's trying to change already. And she's the one who makes him what to change himself. So that he doesn't do things that she doesn't want. Isn't that something at least?
I don’t understand everyone’s issue with step-sibling romances when the characters never considered each other siblings. How is it worse than best friends who were practically siblings growing up falling for each other? That trope everyone gets behind but not steps?
I'm okay with Lara Jean going back to Peter, because she actually did love him and I like them as a couple. Yes, John Ambrose is a great guy. But clearly, he's not meant for Lara Jean. I'm also fine with Kathleen and Joe ending up together at the end of, "You've Got Mail." Same thing with Cher and Josh ("Clueless") and Mary and Steve ("The Wedding Planner"). Speaking of Mary in, "The Wedding Planner," the marriage was called off by Massimo - not Mary. See, that's why paying attention to the movie is so important. Oh! And by the way, it *was* entirely Andie's decision to make. She made the decision to leave her job for *herself*, and that decision was made all on her own. She didn't make that decision for Nate. She made it for *herself*, because she didn't want to be like Miranda. *MY TOP 2 HORRIBLE COUPLES:* Christian and Anastasia ("Fifty Shades" franchise), and Andie and Blaine ("Pretty in Pink").
Fun fact: In the original version of Pretty in Pink she does actually end up with Ducky but test audiences hated it because she didnt end up with the 'handsome' choice. So they changed the ending. Sometimes I wish they would release this version for all the Ducky enthusiasts out there.
Your comment demonstrated why it's important to understand simple concepts of potential preconditions that contribute to eventual outcomes before making self certain claims that don't actually refute the videos nonchalant notes of certain preconditions. It is clearly set up for instance the dynamic between andy and her friends as a contribution regardless of the final choice events framing without them in sight. Yes it is interpretable as her making choice for herself but it also makes more sense to take into account the prior composition otherwise you're insinuating the rest are wasted time that contributed nothing to the narrative and a clear event driven narrative is clearly what they were going for in that movie
I completely forgot that it was Massimo who called off the wedding, tho I did just remember it was because he knew she didn't love him back the same way I think. As for The Devil Wears Prada, haven't seen the movie but I was certain she probably quit because of her boss and not because of the boyfriend. Considering the title of the movie I'm assuming the work environment wasn't the best anyway. I probably wouldn't wanna work there. And as for TATBILB, I wholeheartedly agree that Lara Jean is better off with Peter. One bump in the road shouldn't mean let's break up, and they are so cute together
La la land and clueless doesn't deserve to be here. Reality is good in la la land and josh and Cher are perfect for each other. Other than that the list is good, I can't believe she didn't choice keanu reeves and pretty in pink they were all horrible.
Just because John Ambrose is the prince charming of the series doesn't mean that she should choose him. LJ and Peter clearly need to work on communication, and it is very easy to do they just need to do it. A lot of relationships these days ignore how important communication is and they stop trying to make it work. I look forward to them working on their relationship and putting more effort into it. If they truly care about each other then they will want to work on it. And yes Marco is much better and Noah should date Chloe because they clearly work together very well. Or in all honesty, Marco looks old enough to be in their circle and HE should date Chloe 😂
I used to hate the La La Land ending but now i appreciate that they didnt end up together. It gave them room to pursue their dreams and its sad but they loved each other enough to let each other go
I’m glad John Ambrose didn’t end up with Lara Jean. She wasn’t good enough for him. And she led him on. I didn’t like how she treated him. She should be with Peter. Both annoying
I have an issue with people bashing on the devil wears prada. If that were a guy who was neglecting his gf everyone would rally behind her telling her she deserves better and then cheer when he realized she was worth more than any job. And Cher and Josh are iconic. Fight me.
I DEFINITELY disagree with La La Land. That's what makes it so special! They fell in love, but then they moved on. It's real life, not a fantasy. That's LITERALLy why it's called "La La Land".
My picks. 1) Christine Daaé (because of Love Never Dies how Raoul’s an abusive alcoholic.) 2) Lara Jean. John Ambrose is better in EVERY way. 3) Sandy from Grease because Danny is horrible.
@@epiphany5062 No I agree The Notebook is the worst romance movie ever and Allie should have been with Lon, Allie's relationship with Noah has been proven multiple times as a toxic relationship. You should see honest trailers
Calling Christian Grey "borderline" abusive is like saying "there's a little water in the ocean."
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Exactly.
I just choked on a piece of cheese reading this!
Absolutely!
Disagree on Cher & Josh.
Josh and Cher never had a sibling bond, and they didn't even grew up together.
People need to learn that step doesn't mean necessarily to have a family bond.
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But that wasn't mentioned?? They said It wasn't the sibling bond the problem but that he didn't understand her
@@tmr3421 And that doesn't make sense. There were times in that movie that he stood up for her. But let's be honest, Cher wasn't the most down to earth being, he didn't have to agree on everything she did... For example, on how she was interfering in Tai's life.
It's a grey area for sure.
It's still weird " How did you guys meet?" OH, he's my ex- step brother. Then it's like he didn't come around very often before. Very weird.
Josh and Cher shouldn't be on this list.
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Several things on this list are questionable, tbh.
Plus, it's based on Jane Austen's Emma, so it makes no sense for her to be with anyone else. Unless they want to take it up with Jane, who is very long dead.
No I hated them together they did not grow a connection at all I would have enjoyed her with Elton but Elton would have to mature ALOT
But Elton tried to assault Cher!!!
No one has ever thought Cher and Josh shouldn’t be together, wtf.
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I watched the movie once and haven’t been able to watch it again because I hate that she ends up with Josh. Your opinions are not universal
Ikr, they're so cute together!
Cher and Josh are PERFECT together, you cant change my mind
Yep, Nate getting mad at Andy in the devil wears prada for having a demanding job always rubbed me the wrong way. She would have been better off without him.
@violet baudelaire I do agree with that, and if I'm being honest, having not seen the movie yet all I've heard from this movie makes me think Anne Hathaway's character was probably in a toxic working environment, and I would definitely tell her to quit too (tell me if I'm wrong tho lol)
naah, You don't understand the lesson of that movie. Andy will end up like Miranda's life if she continue that path. Miranda have a successful career but she was not happy.
yea but that demanding job was something she didn't even really like... and i think i would have been pretty upset if my s/o took something they hate over me - someone i thought they liked.
violet baudelaire Andy was a young college graduate with no experience trying to break in to a competitive field . She had to pay her dues! She only had to work that job for one year and it could’ve opened doors for her. Now if you’re established in your career and you’re neglecting your significant other that’s one thing but this was her first job out of school and it’s not going to be ideal, fun or accommodating. Furthermore, they lived in New York and the cost of living there is outrageously expensive. You have to work! Nate was being self centered and immature, period! There’s couples out here who barely see each other because they’re busy working multiple jobs/going to school/taking care of kids, etc. trying to make ends meat. Plenty of women deal with men who work long hours because it allows them a comfortable life. My parents worked opposite shifts growing up because they weren’t comfortable putting us in daycare. My point is Andy was making sacrifices that many people make everyday trying to be successful and prosper. She was not drugging, drinking or partying. She was just working long hours.
@@cristinarivera5707 She wasn't just working long hours. She worked for an abusive boss who even outside of working hours called her to pass tasks, leaving her stressed and consequently, ending any quality time she could have in her "free time". She couldn't even get dinner with her father.
To quote Cher Horowitz: You were hardly ever married to his mother and that was like 5 years ago!
I hate this modern trope of "the guy who got there first is the best guy" usually these men are manipulative, abusive, bad communicators, and only have "good tropes" like being hot and rich.
Yep! My first serious relationship was with a guy who later on became very abusive. I am now engaged to a guy who I was friends with during that other relationship. Sometimes better things come along!
Your evidence for Cher and Josh is unfounded. Josh was the one who understood her the whole time. He knows the kind of person she is and his criticism comes from wanting her to be more than she thinks. He pushes her to be better! Plus, he is always there for her when she needs him. He takes her driving, picks her up from the sun valley, goes to a party, and always talks to her.
You spent too much time trying to convince people of this perfect match and not enough time on the ridiculousness of Something Borrowed!
Cher and Josh complement each other. He totally gets her and she brings some fun to his seriousness. They fit perfectly. The early bickering always seemed to come from a close connection and not from any animosity.
That’s why I hate this movies. They introduced the good guys just to break their hearts in the end.
Yes exactly!
They fridge the good guys
@somber stricken that’s not what fridging is. They don’t die to drive the plot forward. Though I hate in movies where they put the nice guy in when everyone knows they don’t have a chance. Creating sequels with these plots are such a waste of time. They tease a little drama that goes nowhere in the end, leaving the girl with who she was with in the first place
@@raybrown9543 I know what it means to fridge, I was just saying that they create these innocent characters, that have no other purpose than to give the protagonist a hard choice. I didn't mean that they killed literally off the boyfriends.
So true especially in 'To all the boys: ps I still love you' that John Ambrose dude didn't deserve the unhappy ending he got.
Cher and Josh should not be on this list! They are not considered step siblings anymore because their parents got divorced so they should have the right to be together if they want.(If they were still step siblings then THAT would be gross) Plus they are so cute together and you can tell from the look on Cher's face that she is happy with their decition.
Do not even touch “you’ve got mail”, it is absolute perfection
love this movie
YES! Preach!! It needs more attention honestly, I want everyone in the world to watch it lol xD It's such a sweet and lovey movie ^.^
I agree one million percent. Why do people think she chose wrong? They loved each other before they met and Joe knew it and he knew they'd be perfect together. Besides, the final words by Kathleen tells it all:
"I wanted it to be you. I wanted it to be you so badly."
Shouldn't this just be called "bad movie couples" instead of characters that pick the wrong guy? Half or these movies didn't present an alternative guy for the main character to chose. Although I appreciate the instances nowhere there was and they said neither one was a good option.
When you don’t choose john krasinsky... means you lost!
THIS.
Ron Bartolome yes
Facts
Agree but I’m the book dex and Rachel are a way better match and Darcy ends up with Ethan
Exactly
Actually in the wedding planner she didn't run away from her wedding to run off with Steve. She thought he was getting married. She ran away from her wedding because she realized she shouldn't be getting married to someone she wasn't in love with. Steve is the one who left his wedding to run away with her although his end to the wedding was a mutual thing between him and his fiance
And she didn't actually "run away". Massimo let her go because he knew she wouldn't be happy. She was perfectly willing to marry him, but he let her go.
After reading " To All The Boys I Have Loved Before " books i wanted Lara Jean to pick John, Peter is a douche on the books picking Gen over her.
agreed!
YES! I can’t believe people pick Peter over John! The movie did it wrong too. 😭
Seriously. I think she should have picked John especially in the books, where they made Peter’s hangups on Gen even more clear. And I just generally did not like book Peter.
@@beckyb.2549 book Peter was the worst. I had a theory where the author, Jenny Han, made the third book just to have it as Peter's redemption book. Because she made it 2 years after the second book was released and it was a shock for all the fans because there were no notices that she's releasing a 3rd book lol.
@@annabananadel I'd believe it. Book Peter was so terrible.
It's stupid to say that Josh didn't understand Cher. When it comes to Clueless it's almost entirely from Cher's perspective. I'm pretty sure there is only one scene she's not a part of and it's about her anyway.
We don't really get into Josh's head, we know how Cher describes him, we know how he acts and what he says but Cher is the narrator and pretty unreliable if you ask me. Not because she's lying or anything like that but because she's literally clueless.
Completely agree and I believe it's due to the fact that she may be a bit self-absorbed
Immature: hating Miranda
Mature: hating Nate and Andy’s friends
Yessss! Exactly. I hated how her friends were keeping her from her phone and giving her a hard time, right after she gave them all expensive gifts. Pissed me off.
Wait, I feel like I expunged the ending from my mind, all this time I remember it as Andy not getting back with Nate, LOL.
@@anthyavila9726 well it's applied. It doesn't show if they actually do. When they meet for coffee and they're more mature about the situation and what not.
I remember actually screaming at the theatre when Mia and Sebastian didn't end up together at the end of La La Land
Likewise, I know that in showbiz, you have to sacrifice a lot for success, which includes romantic relationships. But even though Mia and Sebastian are both separately fulfilled, it STILL comes as a shock to learn that they ultimately went their separate ways. 😭💔
@@trinaq Sebastian sacrificed success for a militant vision. In real life he's the guy whining that no one has integrity and self sabotages rather than compromise a little to get a lot
Could not agree more about James Marsden, a true unsung romantic hero. That man should get all the roles n accolades.
She lost the girl in The Notebook, Superman, X-Men, Enchanted 😢
Are we going to ignore that majority of the problems Lara Jean and Peter faced were figments of her imagination and her insecurities
Exactly! Peter wasn't a terrible person!
@@ryleemorrow6811 Read the book
Not really, on the second book he makes it clear he prefers Gen over Lara Jean.
But we are talking about the movies and not the books (especially since movie changed things from the book). The video clearly says movie character.
No. If Peter truly had an respect for Lara Jean he wouldn’t force her to be around a girl who bullied her relentlessly, even in front of him, invited Gen to the treehouse party and most of all protected her when she filmed that video! An absolute deal breaker!
Yea LJ was still figuring out how to be in a relationship, it was her first one, and she was insecure, but what hope could she have of ever being truly comfortable when Peter constantly lied about his interactions with Gen and never truly stood up for her. (It’s even worse in the book)
I’m deeply offended that clueless is on this list.
Got I felt so bad for John he deserves better hope they give him a love interest in the third one
In the 3rd book it is revealed that John has a girlfriend named Dipty
Yei glad to hear that. I want him to be happy
Judy the Kung Fu Master aww I hope she’s in the movie
Delmi Cortave same as much as I ship peter and Lara jean I still think peter was a bit of a dick in this one
"Gatsby was obsessed with her, and Tom wanted to control her"- huh... Af if Daisy would appreciate someone who treated her good unless she could take advantage of the man.
Yeah Daisy's always been ridiculously annoying to me. When I first saw the Great Gatsby my junior year of High School I thought her and Jay were cute together. That changed after the ending where she doesn't even show up for his funeral and stays with her shitty husband for money essentially. Her cousin was the only one heartbroken about his best friends death. Yeah Daisy's the worst
@@ashtonbrown9880 exactly... She doesn't even care that the guy died because he took the blame for a crime she committed!
@@shreyasikdar3554 Wait? Didn't he get shot by Tom's mistress husband?
@@ashtonbrown9880 I mean she committed the hit n run n Gatsby took the blame.
@@shreyasikdar3554 Ohh right I remember that now. My bad
finally Someone agree with me that elle supposed to be with Marco
Not gonna lie Marco is better for her
YES
I thought that was gonna be number one .
I don’t think Elle deserves either of them, she’s terrible
I think some women prefer fixer uppers than the perfect guy. Elle makes Noah a better man
I was hoping Tessa from After would be on this list
Tbh the first guy deserves better than her
epiphany Oh Also agreed
I think Tessa deserved better than that Snitch her bf or Hardin was simply toxic
She deserves a better relationship
Yep totally a toxic and destructive relationship..
That movie was nothing short of a disaster.
Every single character who didn't pick James Marsden. And yes, that includes Allie!! Lon was a much better choice than Noah.
You are soooo... aright, he is a super guy in every movie, but I kind of relief that un The Notebook Lando doesn't end up with Allie; he deserves better than the undecided and obsessive drama queen that she is
I have to agree... Noah and Allie had a great first love but I think the movie would've been just as good if they'd both moved on and then after a number of years their spouses died and they found their way back to each other and lived out their old age together
😧
I know right. James marsden
100% he seemed to play the super hot really nice guy who no one ever chose...
My first thought was Devil Wear’s Prada 😂 Andy going back to her crybaby boyfriend was infuriating.
Yeah she deserves the la la land love story of a man who loves her so much her happiness and realizing her dreams is worth more to him than just being with her
Yes! James Marsden is the ultimate- rejected-handsome guy of rom-coms
He’s a modern Ralph Bellamy 😆
His character on the notebook was just perfection and they did him so dirty. I would've chosen him 150 times over ryan gosling's character
I agree with most of the list but Cher?? I don't get why she shouldn't be with Josh, I mean he's in his way to be a lawyer and his father and Cher knows him, he's also a great guy and he had a great connection with her.
Cher and Josh are great, why are they on this list?
WHO DARES TO LEAVE KEANU REEVES?
If you leave Keanu Reeves You lost in life
Cher and Josh are perfect together, its ridiculous to state otherwise. Clueless is an adaptation of Jane Austen's Emma. Cher = Emma, a matchmaker who doesnt realise she's in love with her sister's brother-in-law until its almost too late. Clueless removed the sister and sister's husband from the equation, but not the timeless romance that is central to the plot and theme!!
But THANK YOU for adding DIANA KEATON SHOULD HAVE PICKED KEANU REEVES!! I have ALWAYS said that! Always.
She didn’t love him, though. I don’t get these “she should have picked...” arguments. If they love someone else, what’s the point?
@@SenoritaTorres1She may regret it because he might be a dog killer and Keeanu hates dog killers
I agree, in every Romance James Marsden is in they always choose someone else when he is the better choice. I agree with a few choices on this list but not about Cher. I love them together!
I know It's a series but Rachel should've chosen Louis Vuitton not Ross
That still bothers me
@@delmicortave me too
I will never get over this!
Totally! If he loves her, instead of making her stay, he should have gone with her and let her accomplish her dream.
@@yoli.21 like Marshall did with Lily in How I meet your mother
Cher and Josh were great together!! I love their relationship
And for Mia and Sebastian, I thought their romance was a more realistic portrayal of how romances sometimes just can't work out, when you're going off in different directions
But if they chosen "the wrong guy" doesn't that mean that maybe they didn't like the guy that liked them, in that way? Isn't that called "unrequited love"? You cannot force yourself to love someone, no matter how much you might like them as a person. Plus, these are movies that were completely made up in fiction. Even so, let women choose who they want to be with, love is a two-way street, not a one-way.
You mention it's fiction, but explain it like it's real people. You're contradicting yourself, and lighten up you're reading too much into this list.
I don't think they mean it as factual. Just their opinion on who should have been endgame. Of course women are allowed to date who they want. But people are still going to have an opinion. You've never had a friend who's boyfriend or girlfriend you thought was a complete moron? Their right to date, your right to cringe.
They literally asked viewers to pick who they wish had been chosen in these movies it's not as deep as you're trying to make it out to be. More than likely most of these choices were picked by women viewers 😂 no one is attacking our right to choose
Okay so despite Danny acting like a douchebag in front of his friends can we acknowledge that he did try to become a guy who sandy would like after she started dating Tom. He tried out for multiple different sports and ended up taking up running. Sandy obviously wasn't that amazing either since she dropped Tom the moment Danny fell over.
Totally agree...there IS a lack of James Marsden on this list!
I liked the La La Land ending. Personally I thought the fact that they didn't end up together fit with the fact that their relationship started with both of them working towards their dreams, and they naturally grew apart as their paths diverged. I think La La Land works as a movie because it's so seeped in nostalgia and their relationship is coloured by those rosy lens. But the reality is more complicated and I think the movie showed why their relationship worked better as a nostalgic memory of the foibles of youth.
The best decision is not the better guy , it’s the one you love
Yes. 👍
If the guy you love suck and you don't love the other one that much you can be single
Melania Insolente true
Yes, thank you, my thoughts exactly.
Kdramas should be be here.
The second leads are always better for the heroine but they always get pushed over for the male lead
I know riiiiightttt!!!
Cough cough Boys Over Flowers
Full house, You are beautiful and so much more
YEEESSS. One of the only dramas where this didn't happen was "Dream High" ♡ She ends up with the nice guy. And "Heirs" is complicated because the other guy is actually kind of mean. (OG Kdrama fan lol)
@@TheWannabeTexan I think the heirs actually is the only one who didn't made a bad guy male lead and let him get the girl and the nice guy was the one girl loved.... Idk why ppl hate it and wanted the bully to get the girl.. I love the heirs, mostly all characters was well explained and get what they deserved...
I think Eliza Doolittle from My Fair Lady NEEDS to be on this list. She should have chosen Freddy!!
You are so right!
The thing that a lot of people forget aboudt Grease is that Danny also tried to change how he looked😊
And he liked her before high school when she was herself so why did either of them need to change at all
Most of the movie was him trying to change for her. All of the sports was him trying to change for her. Her only change was at the end... and that was just her looks. I think what is implied at the end is that it didn’t matter. As is typical with teens, back then as well as now, there is too much pressure on how you are perceived.
Finally! Someone who thinks that John ambrose should have gotten the girl! Thank you!
Please do a video of : Which Stephen king character are you based on your zodiac sign 😄
Lol that would be funny lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Chloe.Miller21 Yess , but the "regular" Charakters , Not the villains 😄
senait h Yes. I hope i get Carrie.
@@isabelerhart9523 I'm hoping for one of the Losers , they are all pretty special 👌🏽
senait h Yes!!!
99% won’t see this but 1%
Have a nice day and remember your beautiful ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜💗
Well....
Thank you, you too💕
This is so......
Dumb
@@suhaylahghaznavi1838 rude!
Why...thank you
Not
So on board with La La Land and Pretty in Pink! Also, Thank you for finally acknowledging that Danny changed in Grease as well! I get so frustrated when people criticize Grease because Sandy "had to" change to get the guy (she CHOSE to change), but never acknowledge Danny's changing either, so thank you.
As for Gatsby (which also fires me up despite my loathing it), Daisy was afraid of rejecting Tom. Tom scared her into not standing up for herself, and honestly, if you really look at the story, Gatsby didn't truly love her either by the end, she was just a goal for him (I did a huge college paper on this story, so I've spent an exorbitant amount of time with it, and it's extremely obvious when you look at it closely).
Disagree on the first one. Relationships take work and her character was focused only on work. He felt like he was trying while she was not.
LaLa Land- I hated that she didn’t wind up with Ryan. Josh and Cher did belong together. Great Chemistry and they realize they love each other.
What about 365 Days. She fell in love with someone who was holding her hostage
Same in 7 brides for seven brothers
There was no other guy tjo
The funny thing is that in the third book she falls in love with another man and Massimo becomes more violent. The problem is that this other man is a rival mobster of Massimo, whom she knows because he also kidnaps her. The book pretends that the second mobster is the real Prince Charming, but it is very naive to think that the guy, another criminal, will not treat her the same as Massimo if she tells him that she abandons him for his worst enemy, after having lost a son.
dont get me wrong i love john, but she just didnt feel for him what she did for peter. Peter and Lara jean did have the occasional toxic moment but they always work it out. The movies did them dirty.
YES! The movies missed out on so many key moments!
I was expecting Bella from Twilight to be on this. Everything about the three main characters was totally problematic
Team Jacob, always.
Should have been Jacob
Twilight should have been on this list period
USCAN14 well edward is a jerk towards her, bella has high expectations and comstantly puts herself in danger, still should be on this list
USCAN14 stockholm syndrome
MY UNPOPULAR OPINION: I think Elle shouldn't had got with Noah, since the first one. And I don't like that movie. 👍
I’m with you. I feel like both Noah and Lee had really terrible relationships with Elle. I haven’t seen the second one because the first seemed so messed up to me.
@@beckyb.2549 Same
27 dresses - Jane Nichols; She was in love with her boss, realized that they had nothing in common and that he wasn't "the one" when she finally kissed him. Kevin was "the one" because she had a connection with him and they had a lot of things in common
But she did end up with the right guy, then-
ok but for To All The Boys 2, i thought that lara jean and peter were meant to be. i love john ambrose but i think that lana and noah have more chemistry than her and jordan. both men are great
Exactly!
Ok I get it. EVERYONE disagree with Cher and Jose being on the list. Let's discuss about other couples now.
Like Peter and Lara Jean! I love them but everyone hates peter!
Nope, it's absolutely outrageous
Omg... how can you bash on you’ve got mail?! That’s my all time favorite Romantic comedy and feel good film! He likes her and when he realizes she’s the pen pal he starts treating her better and it’s so cute!
Um, excuse me, the phrasing 'Mia makes the safe choice and succeeds in her career, but the audience knows what she could have had' just rubs me extremely wrong here. The main thing this couple loved about each other was that they were both extremely driven people with very ambitios dreams regarding their separate fields. It was basically in the premise that it wouldn't last because sooner or later their dreams will be more important than their relationship. And if we are being completely fair, they were in a situation where it would have been easier for Seb to adapt to her. He didn't have anything at the time that wouldn't let him move with her. But of course we expect the girl to compromise and put her career on hold to keep a relationship together. If she did it would be basically the situation you condemned The Devil Wears Prada for earlier, only here it would be worth it, because Ryan Gosling is dashing and slightly more supportive.
It's Complicated should be on this list, and fairly high on it at that.
Clueless is a perfect modern (1995) rendition of Jane Austen's Emma and should probably not be on this list. :)
Unfortunately, in the movie “After” storyline with Zed was left apart, but while reading the books I was shipping Zed and Tessa, because her relationship with Hardin shows aspects of toxic relationships, which destroy people from the inside.
About Kissing Booth, unfortunately, I haven’t read the books yet, but I 100% agree, that she should’ve been in a relationship with Marco, because I think, that their connection is way stronger than with Noah...
Can you do this with tv shows. Also could you make a list the Top 10 underrated TV couples and put Dave and Lane (Gilmore Girls) on the list
Watching this made me realized that I made the right decision to be with the man that truly loves and appreciates me and my flaws. ❤️
James Marsden in Superman Returns, better choice. Siwan Choi in She was Pretty! Second lead, kings.
I love the comment about pretty in pink, about how just because ur the nice guy doesn’t mean the girl owes you a relationship. I feel like this happens a lot with my sisters. They have a bunch of male friends who are great to their, and she loves them, but then people expect her to date them just because of that, when all she wants is what she has, which is a great friend
How the hell didn’t Gilmore Girls end up on this list?!
Because she didn't end up with any of them.
It's not a movie, it's a series.
I was so rooting for Dean..hated when Jessie came into the picture
Sky high : layla and warren 🤦🏾♀️ she shoulda picked Warren clearly they had on screen chemistry . Instead sis picked Will , had me so mad as a kid lol
Same
Samoya Peters but Warren doesn't like her like that
Warren didn't like her in that way..and I loved Will
Keanu Reeves has always been a fox. In WHAT universe would any woman pick Nicolson's character over Reeves'? - and it's not just the aesthetic. Nope! I'll comfort you, Dr Keanu ❤
I agree with #10 Andy, she deserved so much better and her friends were rude too.
# 7 Mary, is disagree to a degree. I dont think Mary would have been happy with her marriage to Massimo, that was the point of her dad calling it off. He wanted her to be happy.
Nate getting mad at Andy was because Andy was slowly losing herself .
How can you be sure Nate was not be coming Miranda 2.0??
I didn't really liked Nate, but it is tough to see the person you love working in a place that makes her feel bad and is constantly absuded by their boss. Plus, no one wants to be in a relationship where the other person is never there.
I love Lara Jean with Peter.
Oh no, Troy definitely did get Lelaina - on a level nobody else could.
Christian is just a guy who suffered from childhood abuse and now have the need to feel in control. But the Ana is teaching him to finally leave it behind and show him that he doesn't need to be in control all the time. I just wanna see the character growth for Christian.
It still doesn’t give him the justification for abuse
@@magicalpasta5462 he's trying to change already. And she's the one who makes him what to change himself. So that he doesn't do things that she doesn't want. Isn't that something at least?
@@clareang still not good justification
@@magicalpasta5462 Dude, just give him a break
@@clareang you are defending a bad guy for doin evil things it is like saying the Joker didn’t abuse Harley Quin
I don’t understand everyone’s issue with step-sibling romances when the characters never considered each other siblings. How is it worse than best friends who were practically siblings growing up falling for each other? That trope everyone gets behind but not steps?
Well not only that, but technically speaking when they got together they weren’t even step-siblings anymore. Their parents had divorced by then.
Completely disagree with Clueless and To All the Boys I Loved Before. Lalaland is the worst... Fully agree on that.
Love mojos thanks for sharing every minute of every movie an spoiler alert
Y’all You Got Mail is a CLASSIC!!!!!
I disagree on Josh and Cher and on Andy Sachs and Nate . He is so sweet she is so mean she is not nice at all
Thank you! Everybody talks about how great Andy was and Nate was just being unsupportive. So not true!
I'm okay with Lara Jean going back to Peter, because she actually did love him and I like them as a couple. Yes, John Ambrose is a great guy. But clearly, he's not meant for Lara Jean.
I'm also fine with Kathleen and Joe ending up together at the end of, "You've Got Mail." Same thing with Cher and Josh ("Clueless") and Mary and Steve ("The Wedding Planner").
Speaking of Mary in, "The Wedding Planner," the marriage was called off by Massimo - not Mary. See, that's why paying attention to the movie is so important.
Oh! And by the way, it *was* entirely Andie's decision to make. She made the decision to leave her job for *herself*, and that decision was made all on her own. She didn't make that decision for Nate. She made it for *herself*, because she didn't want to be like Miranda.
*MY TOP 2 HORRIBLE COUPLES:* Christian and Anastasia ("Fifty Shades" franchise), and Andie and Blaine ("Pretty in Pink").
Fun fact: In the original version of Pretty in Pink she does actually end up with Ducky but test audiences hated it because she didnt end up with the 'handsome' choice. So they changed the ending. Sometimes I wish they would release this version for all the Ducky enthusiasts out there.
Your comment demonstrated why it's important to understand simple concepts of potential preconditions that contribute to eventual outcomes before making self certain claims that don't actually refute the videos nonchalant notes of certain preconditions. It is clearly set up for instance the dynamic between andy and her friends as a contribution regardless of the final choice events framing without them in sight. Yes it is interpretable as her making choice for herself but it also makes more sense to take into account the prior composition otherwise you're insinuating the rest are wasted time that contributed nothing to the narrative and a clear event driven narrative is clearly what they were going for in that movie
I completely forgot that it was Massimo who called off the wedding, tho I did just remember it was because he knew she didn't love him back the same way I think.
As for The Devil Wears Prada, haven't seen the movie but I was certain she probably quit because of her boss and not because of the boyfriend. Considering the title of the movie I'm assuming the work environment wasn't the best anyway. I probably wouldn't wanna work there.
And as for TATBILB, I wholeheartedly agree that Lara Jean is better off with Peter. One bump in the road shouldn't mean let's break up, and they are so cute together
La la land and clueless doesn't deserve to be here. Reality is good in la la land and josh and Cher are perfect for each other. Other than that the list is good, I can't believe she didn't choice keanu reeves and pretty in pink they were all horrible.
Just because John Ambrose is the prince charming of the series doesn't mean that she should choose him. LJ and Peter clearly need to work on communication, and it is very easy to do they just need to do it. A lot of relationships these days ignore how important communication is and they stop trying to make it work. I look forward to them working on their relationship and putting more effort into it. If they truly care about each other then they will want to work on it.
And yes Marco is much better and Noah should date Chloe because they clearly work together very well. Or in all honesty, Marco looks old enough to be in their circle and HE should date Chloe 😂
Finally! Someone agrees with me about lj and Peter!
The first place should have gone to Great Gatsby, Daisy leaving him was the biggest mistake in the whole "movieverse"
I used to hate the La La Land ending but now i appreciate that they didnt end up together. It gave them room to pursue their dreams and its sad but they loved each other enough to let each other go
I’m glad John Ambrose didn’t end up with Lara Jean. She wasn’t good enough for him. And she led him on. I didn’t like how she treated him. She should be with Peter. Both annoying
HAHAHA do you not like Lara Jean? I don't blame you.
so true she just lost her relatable personality in the 2nd movie
noooo peter and lara jean are PERFECT
I have an issue with people bashing on the devil wears prada. If that were a guy who was neglecting his gf everyone would rally behind her telling her she deserves better and then cheer when he realized she was worth more than any job. And Cher and Josh are iconic. Fight me.
Utterly shocked that Bella wasn’t on this list.
Yes
Yes to the kissing booth 2. Marco understood her
We need this with t.v. shows
Please do 20 best Disney stars of all time and top 10 best mcu superheroes
I DEFINITELY disagree with La La Land. That's what makes it so special! They fell in love, but then they moved on. It's real life, not a fantasy. That's LITERALLy why it's called "La La Land".
I hated Rachel's choice in Something Borrowed
I definitely agree that Elle should have ended up with Marco
Facts
Yessss!!!!
My picks.
1) Christine Daaé (because of Love Never Dies how Raoul’s an abusive alcoholic.)
2) Lara Jean. John Ambrose is better in EVERY way.
3) Sandy from Grease because Danny is horrible.
The notebook? If we are being honest
Please tell me you're joking
@@epiphany5062 No I agree The Notebook is the worst romance movie ever and Allie should have been with Lon, Allie's relationship with Noah has been proven multiple times as a toxic relationship. You should see honest trailers
Yessss Keanu was 100% the best guy in something gotta give!