Thanks for another great review. It checks all the boxes except one that’s a deal breaker. The lack of a 25-30 amp DC circuit for powering ham radios. I hate having to convert DC to AC and back to DC with an external DC power supply.
Hi David, That's a nice setup with the way those units connect to one another. No cables, just stack them and tighten them together. It's also nice that you can turn off the R Drive in the app. Yes, maybe in the future they could incorporate an RV hook up or add an XT60 output to the unit. These Segway power stations also offer a very good introductory price. Thank you for explaining how you hooked up your 4 panel array to this unit to keep its' total voltage under the 60 volt limit. It would have been nice to see the Segway offer more solar voltage input so you could have ran your setup in series also but if it can get close to the 800 watts into the station, that's not bad with one or two batteries hooked up to the main unit. I see some stations, like the Allpowers R2500 offer 1000 watt solar input and a whopping 150 volts of input. It may put a bigger strain on the batteries but it's nice to have the option and you can setup your solar array in many different configurations. I want to thank you once again, David, for making these in depth videos on these power stations and these solar set ups, I have learned so much watching your channel. I look forward to see what you have in store for the future, now that you have some space to expand your projects. Stay safe and keep warm, it's going to get chilly next week. Oh,...and Happy Halloween! Steve.
Great to see they have improved the firmware to get more out of the batteries and have hit the 80% mark and above. Really like this unit and would seriously consider it if I was in the market. I do wish their connection locks were not screws but something you could do in a tool-free manner, with captive connectors so there was no chance of dropping or losing a screw. But that is minor and not a deal breaker. Great unit.
Another great review. i am in the market right now and would have purchased a large system with solar. They did a get job but I need a 30 amp at least a 25 amp outlet so off to mango or Pecron I need to go. Thanks again ,nice work
Excellent video; this unit is going on my contenders list of power stations. Wireless charging is something that is not important to me especially since I have a usb connection wireless pad. Years ago I looked at power station units with similar expansion units and I thought they would be the way of the future instead of those bulky cables which makes this unit a top contender when you consider all it has to offer.
nice tilted screen.. the most sophisticated patern !!! but if batteries dont work independent or charge and solarcharge indepented ./.. then the company wont have many ex powerstation users and owners!!!! we love match things!!!!
What about dual charging? Solar and AC? And if it does do dual charging, does it “give” priority to Solar? Great reviews as usual…only getting better and better 👍🏻
Nicely done David, I would have liked to see all sides of the unit to see the PV input and cooling fan configuration. I also question why companies continue to limit PV input voltage and or amperage to 60 volts and usually 10 amps ( I did not see what the amps were for this unit) as the configuration is tough to max out their claimed input wattage. But, another option for sure and unique using the stackable expansion batteries. Thank you!
As usual a great informative video and breakdown of the power banks. It blows the Flex 1500 by Inergy out of the water in every aspect. I use power banks with 12V accessories only when camping and this design unit would benefit from the addition of a 12V DC only inverter like the Flex 1500 as an option. If Segway does this I would buy it immediately. By the way do you know if the A/C plugs are 15 or 20 amp output? I could not find it in the website. Again great video.
They are 20 amp. You can tell by the AC plugs themselves. They have that horizontal slot intersecting with the 2 vertical slots of the plug. If it were 15 it would just be the 2 vertical slots. l l vs -I I
Great review, love the high AC capacity result. Although not a deal breaker, the solar voltage is too low for this type of power station. 12v-60v is a big NO-NO for a bigger power station.
I love the way this power station expands and the kickstarter pricing is really good. Unfortunately, they're only shipping to the U.S. and Canada, so who knows when or if it will ever make it to Europe 😢.
Cube easy on basis of better battery technology and higher output AC inverter. LiFePO4 battery 4,000 discharge cycles to reduce capacity to 80%. Pecron is decent with 1500AC and 1461Wh lithium ion battery, it will only take 1,000 discharge cycles to reduce the capacity to 80%.
I guess it does not have an optional vehicle integration kit like Goal Zero? I need a portable power station for a van build and so far the Yeti seems like the only one to make this alternator charging easy?? Any other brands you recommend?
See some good features; wonder … 1) when has expanded battery, does it charge both batteries at same time or does it charge one before the other? 2) same question for discharge 3) am I guessing correctly that batteries cannot be charged independently?
I think what it's doing, since the battery modules must be connecting in parallel, is auto-balancing them (ie bringing them to an equalized state-of-charge) as soon as they're connected...which can take a little time. And during charging/discharging it is pulling from all connected batteries simultaneously. On question 3), you are correct - there's no abiility to charge the battery modules independently. They're definitely not intended to be used without the main unit, having exposed contacts on the top and bottom of the module.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors I did purchase one of these with three extra batteries. My concern is with the exposed contacts. What would be a safe way to transport these independent of the unit? Altogether it’s too heavy, but separately I can bring them camping with my RV. At least that was my hope. Thanks for your review of this unit.
They should put some effort into a dedicated 240 Volt version with it's sole or primary mission to be capable of charging electric car batterys more efficiently and faster than customers being asked to install a 2500.00 level 2 charging station, which is often the going price still for people who own electric cars with no garage outlet option, or who want to get an electric car but have to factor in the expense and hassle of 240 Volt charging, which many homes don't have and hence the 2500.00 added expense to place a level 2 charging station outside the home. (in other words an untapped market invovling millions of potential new customers for the right portable power station)
I'm happy with my Pecrons, this didn't move the needle to invest in a new direction. Price point for what you get, not impressed. Initially I did like the overall shape but no "game changer" upgrades, just another choice with little wow factor.
I have the 2000 cube and the Pecron 1500 at the top of my list for a power station for camping and emergencies. I know you have Pecrons, but comparibg the new 1500 vs the segway 2000, if you dont have anything yet which one will you get?
I currently have the E600LFP ( my first purchase) AND the E2000LFP. I would personally go with Pecron, the *NEW* 1500 they just came out with has a few more bells and whistles, the APP, the better expansion batteries and the price. I bought my 2000LFP for the same price as the NEW 1500LFP knowing I don't need the bells and whistles, I wanted all the power and this thing did not disappoint. I also have a Pecron 330W Solar panel and a 120W Elacaenta Solar panel (bought it after watching ReeWrays product review, he couldn't pronounce elacaenta 🤣) Anyways, both panels work perfectly with the Pecrons. @@Fishcracker23
Pecron is inferior on basis of battery technology. Lithium ion will lose 20% of capacity after 1,000 discharge cycles. LiFePO4 battery technology it takes 4,000 discharge cycles to lose 20% capacity. This is true for any power station using the better battery.
When you ran the DC load test on the single battery you measured about 80% rated energy storage. This seems low to me. Was the AC inverter still on when you ran that test? Otherwise this seems like an excellent value. Thanks for the review.
Have you been offered to test the yolaness 1600? Excellent price atm but not many reviews and seems company just popped up. They had a previous model with a bit lower specs and barely any reviews on it either.
Actually I have! I'm in the process of testing it now. Kind of no frills but solid performance so far, especially considering the price. Look for that video in 2 or 3 weeks. 😀
@@ReeWrayOutdoors great! For 599 I'm considering it even though I just ordered a refurbished vtoman jump 1800 from their eBay store for a very good price. Didn't realize charging was so slow so I'll prob return
@@shabba3602 yup I'm debating on it vs the flash speed 1500. Half the charging time and jumpstart feature. Wondering how much prices will drop for Black Friday deals
I like the form factor, but I will never participate in a crowd-funded launch of a product again. I got burned a couple of times and just won't do it anymore. (How could a company like Segway not have the funding to do their R&D and then release a finished product w/o getting money ahead of time?)
Yeah, I wondered the same thing. Seems like a lot of brands are doing that now. There must be SOME cost advantage to it, or why bother. Maybe they're using it more as a form of market research to gauge interest in a new product line/concept? In any case, the response on this product has clearly blown their laughably modest goal of $10K out of the water.
I wonder if they forced this guy to do a "Good" review. Once a company starts to threaten payment for fake good reviews it it tarnishes the company and youtuber.
They did not, actually. In fact, I had NO contract with Segway (probably because we did not have a paid arrangement). I WILL say (as I think I stated in the video) that they wanted to make sure that the test results accurately reflected their production-ready power station. My original video testing was done with a pre-production unit and still performed quite well, but SLIGHTLY below average on the DC capacity test. So they simply asked me to hold the video until they could send me a production unit to re-test with. Seemed like a reasonable request, and indeed, after re-testing with the production unit, I did get measurably better DC capacity results, so I amended the original content to reflect that. There was no hostility or threats of any kind. And, btw, this is a big reason why I don't do paid reviews....and also why I prefer to work directly with the brand instead of through a promotion agency (which was the case with the RUclipsr video this is all in regards to).
I passed on this unit because I thought I saw this on here before that had a bad 70% rating Beta products can be fixed but then I wonder if Segway told you to take it down for bad press.
Actually I did mention that right about 5:25. But I wish I'd spent more time talking about the price because it's actually extremely competitive...at least the 'early bird' pricing certainly is.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors sorry I must of missed it, my apologies, have you ever given any thought about doing some videos and compare one solar panel = 400w and a mini wind turbine that would at least generate 400w just to see how long it took to charge the battery pack , I don’t mean large or massive wind turbines just a mini one , you could call it a mini series of power ,
@@ReeWrayOutdoors I’m here in England by the sea looking out the kitchen window as we speak windy as hell as most of October to April so six months of the year is like that here and yet they promote solar here a lot, unless I’m looking out the wrong window my eyes are telling me wind would generate more power at least for me , don’t seem to see much or any comparison between one panel and one mini turbine, so I will look forward my cousin across the pond to your up coming videos, take care.
Thanks for the great review , as usual. I decided to get in on the kickstarter after doing some comparisons and rewatching your review a couple times. My unit arrived yesterday.
I am happy with our segway. It charges crazy fast, powers the pellet stove at least a half day when we tested it. And after sitting for at least 2 months it was still at 100%! Two power outages later and I am very happy I got it.
segway is currently fighting another youtuber over this very item because segway didn't like what he had to say. They wanted a promo video even though the contract stipulated review. Did they strongarm you as well?
I certainly wouldn't characterize it as being 'strongarmed'. They recognized that the pre-production unit they had sent wasn't performing as well as the production units and so they understandably wanted me to re-test with the production units to more accurately reflect their final product. And I definitely don't recall any language in the contract that would have prevented me from giving my honest opinions about the product. As a matter of principle, I would not enter into any contractual arrangement that had restrictions in that regard.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors well I saw the contract and emails between the two and segway threatened the youtuber over their vvideo. Can't trust segway or the reviews given on their products. Hardware reviews are so sheisty, I did it with pc hardware in the early 2000's it wasn't any different than.
@@skelafeti Interesting. Out of curiosity, I went back and checked and there actually was no contract from Segway....just a document with suggestions on the main features they wanted highlighted...stuff I would've done anyway. Sounds like this other guy had a very different experience. I didn't find them to be unreasonable at all.
Respectfully.. Why take your original video down? It makes you look like a shill, even if you aren't. People need to see the comparison between videos to see how much Segway has improved the product from pre-production to production and the amount of effort they are willing to put into resolving issues. I never saw your original video, but I suspect there were things that needed to be resolved or your wouldn't have pulled it down. As soon as I heard you say you took the original video down I started questioning the information in your video and started looking for other reviews from reviewers I feel are more independent. Just being honest and hoping to help you to be seen as an independent reviewer, which it appears you are looking to be. Just my 2 cents, feel free to ignore. Great video production otherwise.
I appreciate your perspective and feedback. For the record, Segway didn't demand that I take it down (I don't agree to those kinds of terms)...but they felt they'd made sufficient improvements to the 'released' version of the product in comparision to the pre-release version I'd originally used that the first video wasn't an accurate representation of the released product. I actually didn't delete the original video...just unlisted it...because I wanted to see if the released version actually did produce different test results. If it didn't, my intention was to re-list the original video. But as it turned out, the newest revisition did show some modest improvements, so I reproduced the follow-up video to reflect that in hopes of accurately representing the current state of the product. And truth be told, the pre-release performance was actually pretty good aside from a slight underperformance on the DC usable capacity test...which they've improved in the new version.
The stackable modularity for cable less expansion, is an attractive feature for the power station.
Thank You for your time , Great review as always.
Thanks for another great review. It checks all the boxes except one that’s a deal breaker. The lack of a 25-30 amp DC circuit for powering ham radios. I hate having to convert DC to AC and back to DC with an external DC power supply.
If in the future you do add 30amp dc capability, please make sure the unit is RF quiet as well. Not saying this one isn’t already.
Hi David,
That's a nice setup with the way those units connect to one another. No cables, just stack them and tighten them together. It's also nice that you can turn off the R Drive in the app. Yes, maybe in the future they could incorporate an RV hook up or add an XT60 output to the unit. These Segway power stations also offer a very good introductory price.
Thank you for explaining how you hooked up your 4 panel array to this unit to keep its' total voltage under the 60 volt limit. It would have been nice to see the Segway offer more solar voltage input so you could have ran your setup in series also but if it can get close to the 800 watts into the station, that's not bad with one or two batteries hooked up to the main unit. I see some stations, like the Allpowers R2500 offer 1000 watt solar input and a whopping 150 volts of input. It may put a bigger strain on the batteries but it's nice to have the option and you can setup your solar array in many different configurations.
I want to thank you once again, David, for making these in depth videos on these power stations and these solar set ups, I have learned so much watching your channel. I look forward to see what you have in store for the future, now that you have some space to expand your projects. Stay safe and keep warm, it's going to get chilly next week. Oh,...and Happy Halloween!
Steve.
Really like the modular build of this one and the general featureset, but the lack of a higher 30a DC output is a killer for me.
Honestly you have the best reviews on power stations. You tell the audience everything that is important in a power station.
I never saw the first video and was hoping you’d review this, as I am really considering buying one during this launch. Looks like good stuff!
I saw the 1st video but was waiting for this before I jumped in too!!!
Great to see they have improved the firmware to get more out of the batteries and have hit the 80% mark and above. Really like this unit and would seriously consider it if I was in the market. I do wish their connection locks were not screws but something you could do in a tool-free manner, with captive connectors so there was no chance of dropping or losing a screw. But that is minor and not a deal breaker. Great unit.
Another great review. i am in the market right now and would have purchased a large system with solar. They did a get job but I need a 30 amp at least a 25 amp outlet so off to mango or Pecron I need to go. Thanks again ,nice work
There might be a couple more interesting options coming very soon. Just saying 😉
That would be great, any idea on when?
@@ReeWrayOutdoors
@@scottspencer6322Sounds like he hinting at something, but maybe can't say anything...maybe Killary is watching!😨
Excellent video; this unit is going on my contenders list of power stations. Wireless charging is something that is not important to me especially since I have a usb connection wireless pad. Years ago I looked at power station units with similar expansion units and I thought they would be the way of the future instead of those bulky cables which makes this unit a top contender when you consider all it has to offer.
Great video. Also thanks for taking Satterfield! We love our new coach at Louisville.
Great review! THANK YOU!
Thank you sir for another outstanding informative review.
Really nice , but for RVing, these 12V-10A units dont cut it against some -rare-other manufacturers who offer 25A or 30A imo...
nice tilted screen.. the most sophisticated patern !!! but if batteries dont work independent or charge and solarcharge indepented ./.. then the company wont have many ex powerstation users and owners!!!! we love match things!!!!
What about dual charging? Solar and AC? And if it does do dual charging, does it “give” priority to Solar?
Great reviews as usual…only getting better and better 👍🏻
Nicely done David, I would have liked to see all sides of the unit to see the PV input and cooling fan configuration. I also question why companies continue to limit PV input voltage and or amperage to 60 volts and usually 10 amps ( I did not see what the amps were for this unit) as the configuration is tough to max out their claimed input wattage.
But, another option for sure and unique using the stackable expansion batteries. Thank you!
As usual a great informative video and breakdown of the power banks. It blows the Flex 1500 by Inergy out of the water in every aspect. I use power banks with 12V accessories only when camping and this design unit would benefit from the addition of a 12V DC only inverter like the Flex 1500 as an option. If Segway does this I would buy it immediately. By the way do you know if the A/C plugs are 15 or 20 amp output? I could not find it in the website. Again great video.
They are 20 amp. You can tell by the AC plugs themselves. They have that horizontal slot intersecting with the 2 vertical slots of the plug. If it were 15 it would just be the 2 vertical slots. l l vs -I I
Great review, love the high AC capacity result. Although not a deal breaker, the solar voltage is too low for this type of power station. 12v-60v is a big NO-NO for a bigger power station.
Well done sir!
I love the way this power station expands and the kickstarter pricing is really good.
Unfortunately, they're only shipping to the U.S. and Canada, so who knows when or if it will ever make it to Europe 😢.
Between the cube 2000 and Pecron 1500, which one would you pick, and why?
Cube easy on basis of better battery technology and higher output AC inverter. LiFePO4 battery 4,000 discharge cycles to reduce capacity to 80%.
Pecron is decent with 1500AC and 1461Wh lithium ion battery, it will only take 1,000 discharge cycles to reduce the capacity to 80%.
Hello, have you ever tried to run the inverter without the batteries by plugging it into a 12v outlet? THANKS.
I guess it does not have an optional vehicle integration kit like Goal Zero? I need a portable power station for a van build and so far the Yeti seems like the only one to make this alternator charging easy?? Any other brands you recommend?
See some good features; wonder …
1) when has expanded battery, does it charge both batteries at same time or does it charge one before the other?
2) same question for discharge
3) am I guessing correctly that batteries cannot be charged independently?
I think what it's doing, since the battery modules must be connecting in parallel, is auto-balancing them (ie bringing them to an equalized state-of-charge) as soon as they're connected...which can take a little time. And during charging/discharging it is pulling from all connected batteries simultaneously. On question 3), you are correct - there's no abiility to charge the battery modules independently. They're definitely not intended to be used without the main unit, having exposed contacts on the top and bottom of the module.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors I did purchase one of these with three extra batteries. My concern is with the exposed contacts. What would be a safe way to transport these independent of the unit? Altogether it’s too heavy, but separately I can bring them camping with my RV. At least that was my hope. Thanks for your review of this unit.
They should put some effort into a dedicated 240 Volt version with it's sole or primary mission to be capable of charging electric car batterys more efficiently and faster
than customers being asked to install a 2500.00 level 2 charging station, which is often the going price still for people who own electric cars with no garage outlet option,
or who want to get an electric car but have to factor in the expense and hassle of 240 Volt charging, which many homes don't have and hence the 2500.00 added expense
to place a level 2 charging station outside the home. (in other words an untapped market invovling millions of potential new customers for the right portable power station)
I'm happy with my Pecrons, this didn't move the needle to invest in a new direction. Price point for what you get, not impressed. Initially I did like the overall shape but no "game changer" upgrades, just another choice with little wow factor.
I have the 2000 cube and the Pecron 1500 at the top of my list for a power station for camping and emergencies. I know you have Pecrons, but comparibg the new 1500 vs the segway 2000, if you dont have anything yet which one will you get?
I currently have the E600LFP ( my first purchase) AND the E2000LFP. I would personally go with Pecron, the *NEW* 1500 they just came out with has a few more bells and whistles, the APP, the better expansion batteries and the price. I bought my 2000LFP for the same price as the NEW 1500LFP knowing I don't need the bells and whistles, I wanted all the power and this thing did not disappoint. I also have a Pecron 330W Solar panel and a 120W Elacaenta Solar panel (bought it after watching ReeWrays product review, he couldn't pronounce elacaenta 🤣) Anyways, both panels work perfectly with the Pecrons. @@Fishcracker23
Pecron is inferior on basis of battery technology. Lithium ion will lose 20% of capacity after 1,000 discharge cycles.
LiFePO4 battery technology it takes 4,000 discharge cycles to lose 20% capacity. This is true for any power station using the better battery.
When you ran the DC load test on the single battery you measured about 80% rated energy storage. This seems low to me. Was the AC inverter still on when you ran that test? Otherwise this seems like an excellent value. Thanks for the review.
Do they have these in the uk ? And great video again
Have you been offered to test the yolaness 1600? Excellent price atm but not many reviews and seems company just popped up. They had a previous model with a bit lower specs and barely any reviews on it either.
Actually I have! I'm in the process of testing it now. Kind of no frills but solid performance so far, especially considering the price. Look for that video in 2 or 3 weeks. 😀
@@ReeWrayOutdoors great! For 599 I'm considering it even though I just ordered a refurbished vtoman jump 1800 from their eBay store for a very good price. Didn't realize charging was so slow so I'll prob return
I'm excited to see a Yolaness video myself.@@ReeWrayOutdoors
@shabba3602 working on it right now! :)
@@shabba3602 yup I'm debating on it vs the flash speed 1500. Half the charging time and jumpstart feature. Wondering how much prices will drop for Black Friday deals
I like the form factor, but I will never participate in a crowd-funded launch of a product again. I got burned a couple of times and just won't do it anymore. (How could a company like Segway not have the funding to do their R&D and then release a finished product w/o getting money ahead of time?)
Yeah, I wondered the same thing. Seems like a lot of brands are doing that now. There must be SOME cost advantage to it, or why bother. Maybe they're using it more as a form of market research to gauge interest in a new product line/concept? In any case, the response on this product has clearly blown their laughably modest goal of $10K out of the water.
I have three Bluetti's and one Pecron and they all have wireless charging on top. I never use any of them. I'd rather just plug them into a cord.
Will it run a 120v inverter mini split?
The links in your description seem to be broken. I'm getting a 403 Forbidden error.
Are you getting that on all the links, or just a particular one? They seem to be working for me.
No Coffee no buy.
I wonder if they forced this guy to do a "Good" review. Once a company starts to threaten payment for fake good reviews it it tarnishes the company and youtuber.
They did not, actually. In fact, I had NO contract with Segway (probably because we did not have a paid arrangement). I WILL say (as I think I stated in the video) that they wanted to make sure that the test results accurately reflected their production-ready power station. My original video testing was done with a pre-production unit and still performed quite well, but SLIGHTLY below average on the DC capacity test. So they simply asked me to hold the video until they could send me a production unit to re-test with. Seemed like a reasonable request, and indeed, after re-testing with the production unit, I did get measurably better DC capacity results, so I amended the original content to reflect that. There was no hostility or threats of any kind. And, btw, this is a big reason why I don't do paid reviews....and also why I prefer to work directly with the brand instead of through a promotion agency (which was the case with the RUclipsr video this is all in regards to).
I passed on this unit because I thought I saw this on here before that had a bad 70% rating
Beta products can be fixed but then I wonder if Segway told you to take it down for bad press.
How much is it ? Is there a reason why you don’t give the price of the items you talk about ?
Actually I did mention that right about 5:25. But I wish I'd spent more time talking about the price because it's actually extremely competitive...at least the 'early bird' pricing certainly is.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors sorry I must of missed it, my apologies, have you ever given any thought about doing some videos and compare one solar panel = 400w and a mini wind turbine that would at least generate 400w just to see how long it took to charge the battery pack , I don’t mean large or massive wind turbines just a mini one , you could call it a mini series of power ,
@@KavanOBrien That is DEFINITELY on the radar. :) I'm hoping to something very much like that here in the next 2-3 months.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors I’m here in England by the sea looking out the kitchen window as we speak windy as hell as most of October to April so six months of the year is like that here and yet they promote solar here a lot, unless I’m looking out the wrong window my eyes are telling me wind would generate more power at least for me , don’t seem to see much or any comparison between one panel and one mini turbine, so I will look forward my cousin across the pond to your up coming videos, take care.
Thanks for the great review , as usual. I decided to get in on the kickstarter after doing some comparisons and rewatching your review a couple times. My unit arrived yesterday.
Are you happy with your unit?
I am happy with our segway. It charges crazy fast, powers the pellet stove at least a half day when we tested it. And after sitting for at least 2 months it was still at 100%! Two power outages later and I am very happy I got it.
@@Annwiskowthank you kindly for your response. They don’t have hardly any reviews for this product on their website. Your info is helpful
Looks like the $999 pricing is already gone. It’s at $1049 right now. Unless I’m overlooking something. Great review.
Yeah I just saw that. Seems like despite my best efforts to provide accurate information at the time I post, something always gets changed on me. 😜
Still a great price though.
segway is currently fighting another youtuber over this very item because segway didn't like what he had to say. They wanted a promo video even though the contract stipulated review. Did they strongarm you as well?
I certainly wouldn't characterize it as being 'strongarmed'. They recognized that the pre-production unit they had sent wasn't performing as well as the production units and so they understandably wanted me to re-test with the production units to more accurately reflect their final product. And I definitely don't recall any language in the contract that would have prevented me from giving my honest opinions about the product. As a matter of principle, I would not enter into any contractual arrangement that had restrictions in that regard.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors well I saw the contract and emails between the two and segway threatened the youtuber over their vvideo. Can't trust segway or the reviews given on their products. Hardware reviews are so sheisty, I did it with pc hardware in the early 2000's it wasn't any different than.
@@skelafeti Interesting. Out of curiosity, I went back and checked and there actually was no contract from Segway....just a document with suggestions on the main features they wanted highlighted...stuff I would've done anyway. Sounds like this other guy had a very different experience. I didn't find them to be unreasonable at all.
Respectfully.. Why take your original video down? It makes you look like a shill, even if you aren't. People need to see the comparison between videos to see how much Segway has improved the product from pre-production to production and the amount of effort they are willing to put into resolving issues. I never saw your original video, but I suspect there were things that needed to be resolved or your wouldn't have pulled it down. As soon as I heard you say you took the original video down I started questioning the information in your video and started looking for other reviews from reviewers I feel are more independent. Just being honest and hoping to help you to be seen as an independent reviewer, which it appears you are looking to be. Just my 2 cents, feel free to ignore. Great video production otherwise.
I appreciate your perspective and feedback. For the record, Segway didn't demand that I take it down (I don't agree to those kinds of terms)...but they felt they'd made sufficient improvements to the 'released' version of the product in comparision to the pre-release version I'd originally used that the first video wasn't an accurate representation of the released product. I actually didn't delete the original video...just unlisted it...because I wanted to see if the released version actually did produce different test results. If it didn't, my intention was to re-list the original video. But as it turned out, the newest revisition did show some modest improvements, so I reproduced the follow-up video to reflect that in hopes of accurately representing the current state of the product. And truth be told, the pre-release performance was actually pretty good aside from a slight underperformance on the DC usable capacity test...which they've improved in the new version.