HOW TO MAKE MONEY WORKING THE FLAT RATE SYSTEM!
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- A quick overview on how the flat rate system works and even sharing some tips and tricks to make more money working flat rate the right way!
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Yeah but one problem. A 2 hour job is is just 1 broken bolt away from being a 3 day job. Lol
I love watching your videos and learning more and more as I’m only 2-3 years into this field and learning how to get better
6 year update for a 2 year tech?
Great video, brings me back to Dallas TX where I worked for a Dodge dealership from 1997 - 2004 as a flat rate tech (back in Sweden now). So true about loosing hr when you first start working on flat rate. E.i head gasket on a SOHC Neon paid 4 hr warranty time, first one I did toke me 6.5 hr, after i don't know how many head gaskets i was done to 2.5 hr, by cutting corners on the removal and installation procedures. Year 2000 i actually checked my hr and I ran an average off 56 hr / week over a period of 1 year that I got paid for. We had to be at the shop for 10 hr / day mo - fr but if you deduct the time for finding cars, getting parts, bull shitting with other techs, lunch, test drive etc the average time you actually turned a wrench was not 10 hr / day. Another thing we had at that time was that we got to right done the LOP numbers our self, so no human error except your own. Our shop used only warranty time, if it was customer pay we used warranty time times 1.5 and you got customer time. I could write a small novel about my 7 years as a flat rate tech in Dallas. Thanks for a great channel, keep up the good work.
I know how it feels on both sides of the issue. As the customer and the tech. As a customer I can certainly appreciate a mechanic who is honest. Does not try to fleece me for additional parts/work that my car may not need. Also goes the extra mile and ensures my car is repaired right the first time. As a mechanic I appreciate the customer who takes the time to provide vital information on the issue with their car in order to help diagnose/repair their vehicle first time around.
Work harder ,smarter and longer then anyone else in any profession,that is the key. Most people are too lazy or unwilling to put in the extra time and effort to be better then everyone else. Also once you have skills , side jobs can make you more money then a 50hr week.....
In framing it takes 5-7 years to acquire enough skill to do side work.....from what I read a 10yr mechanic makes 50k +/-...and a master 75k +....wish I had the skills of a mechanic but glad I have the income of a builder.
Im young and I’m trying to find out how to run away from flatrate! Ive moved up a good amount im the short 2.5 years that I have been at my dealership (ASEs, dealer tests, dealer led classes) but I feel like to make hours I have to work more and/or cheat customers. I’m not the type to cheat customers and I hate working more then I have to just to hit 40 or 50 hours a week. Thinking about heavy duty diesel tech or something because I don’t want to end up like some of the older guys at my job. Miserably complaining about hours and warranty work.
"Work harder ,smarter and longer then anyone else in any profession,that is the key." No get paid harder than the corporate SIMP who suggests that.
From 8:53 on, especially, THIS VID IS PURE GOLD (I watched it TWICE)!!! I have spent incalculable hours consuming automotive subject content on YT and NO ONE puts it quite like you! I'm not sure if everyone who listens to this understands exactly what you're giving them, Rustbelt Mechanic!
This is something that an exceptional technician (I would think) would/should just know intuitively! It definitely gives that "WOW-factor" to the workmanship (and advances the profession/skill, really) that employers, customers, etc. should be able to expect. Yes, it takes time but is the RIGHT WAY to do things. Yes, Rustbelt Mechanic, TRUST IS EVERYTHING!!!
Two thumbs up to your vid, Brother! Additionally, you have a new sub! God bless you and I hope your business really flourishes!!
I have a spreadsheet also.
Each week has 2 columns, in the top 2 rows, I have the date, hours total, and number of days worked (vacation is based on flagged hours/day, so I know quickly how to calculate it).
Then going down, when I finish a ticket, I type hours flagged into column 1, and my RO number into column 2. If I have a discrepancy on my final flag sheet, it's quick and easy to find the ticket that's wrong.
Then at the bottom, after I get that paycheck or stub, I type in my actual take home pay. On the far left, I calculate that average take home, and I can use that average rate to calculate how much my check will be next week, takes a little guess work out of it!
As weeks go by, I can just hide old weeks so they don't clutter stuff up.
I’ve been working as a technician for 23yrs and have never worked flat rate. I refuse to take a job that pays flat rate cause I’ve heard to many horror stories of shops slowing down and the work not being there or service managers who have their favorite tech so they feed him all the gravy work and everyone else gets screwed. If it works for you then that’s great, just not something I’m interested in.
Why doctors don't work that way. Because not all jobs go smoothly. Would not work that way.
That's true, unfortunately. I left a shop because I was tired of that shit.
The #1 advice
Wup your coworkers ass's that are responsible for the technician's that are dispatched all the good money making jobs while your getting fed all the BS jobs.
I found a place that pays hourly. That's the only way to solve this problem.
#2 pay the service advisor based off of flat rate labor also and they will never ever get the labor wrong and I mean never!
There are so many shops out there and all of them need SKILLED, hard working technicians, so if you don't like the flat rate system, don't work at a flat rate shop...pretty simple really.
I have worked both flat rate and hourly and depending on how efficient and good you are at what you do, it really comes out to be approximately the same regardless of which one you work.
If you are a die hard anti flat rate system guy, maybe it's time to revaluate your work ethics, efficiency, and growth in this field. If you're an anti hourly guy SAME SAME SAME!!!
You have but one person to blame for your wage and you see that person every day in the mirror.
Good video Rustbelt...thanks for the insight.
@Nick Steinmetz I don't disagree, depending on what you do mostly...if your a hammer or a scanner. Gotta be busy.
"If you are a die hard anti flat rate system guy, maybe it's time to revaluate your work ethics, efficiency, and growth in this field." Why? Because you made baseless assumptions that have nothing to do with the actual issues people have?
"You have but one person to blame for your wage and you see that person every day in the mirror." That's what a corporate SIMP would say. It is only true in the sense, that if someone takes advantage of you, you shouldn't accept that.
@@worldhello1234 Baseless assumptions? I stand firm on my "assumptions ".
Yeah i don't know where some of these warranty times come from. I had to do a rear seat upholstery or rear bench seat cover it paid 0.6 warranty time. It had 40-50 hog rings I had to cut off and replace. It was the first one I did but it still took me over 2 hours. If someone could get the old one off in 1 hour I'd be impressed. Some of the times the book time makes you really question where it came from.
The times came from an engineer whose old lady cheated on him with a mechanic. Got to be..
Pretty sure warranty time is determined by accountants.
Warranty clock time is a fucking JOKE.
Thanks for this video, because I am going back to my old job at Nissan. You being realistic about this video. Thank you for this video.
Flat rate is dead. The body is twitching.
One year later, anyone notice there is a huge tech shortage?🤣👍
Going to school to be a diesel tech. Just got yourself a sub! What drew me in was the diesel mechanics tool box tour.
Dont take that to heart.......... Those are still automotive products... No money in auto products...
Flat rate is a legal way for manufacturers and dealership groups to steal your time.
Yep!!
True
NOPE! not if you actually work hard and get your hours in
Actually....If it was a good system of paying employees, other industries would do it...but they don't. Just something to think about.
@@slav7447 couldnt agree more, I used to be hourly and loved it, started flare rate and took a big pay cut, but I held strong, got better at what I was doing and I make more then I would if I was hourly, and I dont cut corners 🤷♂️
I will recommend having a check off list and if it's a big job take some pictures for example if you replacing the clutch or wheel bearings.
One of the comments mentioned time wasted looking for cars...and that got me started. At our Hendrick dealership, just a few of the ways that we lost time. Not just finding cars but moving up to 3 cars to get to the one you needed, but first finding the keys to those cars. Cars with dead batteries? good luck finding the jumper box. The car needs tires or alignment, but have to wait for the only machine we have is in use by another tech. "Can you change a bulb, wiper blades, pull a code?" This all just eats away at your time.
Flat rate is the only rate I pay my self. #flatrateislife👍 Nice job breaking it down. You are right about the pay and labor rate being broken along with alot of other issues, specially in the local 701 mechanic union in my state.
JRC54 were you ever in 701 I’m currently in 701. What’s your opinion about union mechanics?
A video explaining how book time is calculated would be amazing. The system is manipulated and broken.
dont be a mechanic simple
Great video man. I have been in the field for about 6 years and you are spot on. Good tips. Thank you.
Flat rate is useless ,
In a small town where the work volume is way less than the big city
And remember the more you know the less you make. Having to do the difficult warranty repair that pay less while the less experienced tech do the gravy.
Step one don’t work flat rate.
😂🤣😂
Too true
Or just dont suck
@DrunkenMaster_0 I've done pretty good in a flat rate independent shop for 8 years but I definitely work for it. Late nights and weekends more often than not. Who do you work for? If you dont want to say, may I ask what you work on?
@DrunkenMaster_0 Wow, thanks for all the info. I will definitely look into it. I just started my family a couple years ago and the long hours are starting to burn me out and I keep thinking about what I will do when my kids start asking me why I'm barely around during the week or weekend and also the thought of how long my marriage can withstand it.
Definitely keep track of your hours. I've had a couple times where a time card was missing. 9 hours on one and 16 on the other.
I routinely catch people cutting time off jobs when they have to discount things for customers. It's bs.
worked flare rate for 1 month !!!! GOT FIRED BECAUSE I DIDN'T SHOW UP BECAUSE ITS A JOKE 🤡🤡🤡!!!!!! flat rates for the young guys who live with mommy
Excellent explanation!!! Thumbs up . Very professional.
Good info @Rustbelt! Loved the google docs idea. Going to try that. The way you did your hutch with the monitor came out sick!! Looks real slick!
I worked at the local Toyota dealership as a lube tech for about 8 months. I was pretty quick. Not super quick especially towards the end when injury took me out completely. I had a process that made sure that I never missed anything and to the best of my knowledge I only had one come back and that was only really because of the poor MAF sensor placement on the first gen Prius. Get any dirt on it during a filter change and it can kill the car until you clear codes. my system made it so that I had visual hints as to what I’ve done. Is the dipstick flopping around? I need to fill up the oil. Is the car still supported by the lift? Torque those wheels. It made it so that I didn’t have to remember or could quickly pick up where I was after getting pulled away.
At our shop we are not on the flat rate system but we are one of the few. We use a hourly plus flatrate bonus system that reward techs for reaching 100% efficiency. If a tech works 45 hours and turns out 45+ hours worth of work then they get a $1 per hour bonus. If they reach 120% efficiency they get $2 per hour bonus. I think I need to revise this system slightly and we have also considered switching to commission. I think I need to be more of an enforcer in our shop to boost productivity.
Great video and overview of how the flat rate system works. Also do you have to right your own estimates (look up parts and labor) or does your service writer do that?
That seems like a pretty fair and goal oriented system, I like it! We go to the parts counter and they write up the parts quote, then it’s on the tech to get labor times for the quote and give it to the service manager/writer... unless it’s warranty of course...then you get what you get
I like the way you keep track of your time, I'm going to have to look into that, I currently use my calander on my computer to track mine, it is nice because it syncs with my laptop at home too, so I can just look at it no matter where I am, I log the r.o. number, how many hours, which dealer the car belongs to, (I work for 4 different dealers) and what the vehicle is
As always buddy very imformative.I loved these videos.They give insight to newer guys like myself.Keep up the good work
I love how my pay scale is set up, I have a hourly rate & receive 15% of my total ticket. Like today, I got approval on a small $1,000 ticket for a alternator a belt and a few small things on a Honda Odyssey. It calls for rite at 2 hours, so I’ll make around $150 for tho’s 2 hours on the flip side tho I make a hourly rate for the cold months if I don’t hit my % for the week and it’s like $15 a hour way lower than my commission rate but it’s nice having the guarantee. I hated thanksgiving through New Years at the Chevy dealership. It was bad for 3 or 4 weeks where we wasn’t barely getting anything
I have an interview Tuesday for a Auto Tech Trainee position. Is there any advice you might have for me going in? Awesome video and I appreciate your time to help us newbies out. Thanks
Customer pay is so expensive because it's so difficult to make reasonable money on warranty. At hyundai we get zero diag, zero for rust and broken stuff, zero for the half hour on hold with techline, zero for all the recommended diag that techline says. So when customers come in the advisors and managers jack up the time to make up for where warranty lacks. I feel bad for the customers. Also what incentive do techs have to fix it right under warranty if you'll get paid more for throwing 2 parts at it instead of one.
You guys need to look into a better warranty admin man. You can get paid for all those things, they just have to be heavily documented and possibly photographed. Every single one of my RO’s has at minimum one paragraph for warranty explaining every circuit, every test and rusted bolt etc and I don’t have issues very often at all getting my time for the jobs. Also yes there is an incentive to do things faster but there should also be incentive to do things right, we make the techs even under warranty fix blatant comebacks for free. If it’s a blatant comeback because you didn’t do the absolute diag and document it, you’re working for free.
I've heard from lots of techs that Hyundai warranty is by far the worst for techs.
Step one: Have a service writer who cares
Step two: Don't chase the bottom dollar
Step three: Bust your ass like your living depends on it.
When I was doing flat rate, I typically turned 120-130%, and made ok money. Some places had service writers who didn't care, or fed one tech over another, and in those cases I still turned over 100% efficiency, but sat for hours every day killing my total hours. I'm glad to be back on straight hourly, as a company mechanic. Lots less stress.
Hourly is so much better. If something isn’t right during a repair I have all the time in the world to fix it correctly and the shop is very happy I don’t have customers returning.
Awesome video man ! One thing im always ranting about is putting the damn cell phone down especially when the shop is busy ! Very difficult for some people lol !
My dad worked flat rate for years in the late 90s -mid 2000’s. I believe his all time record for one paycheck was 164 hours. He wasn’t allowed to stay on flat rate much longer, the dealership told him he needed to go to hourly because they wouldn’t be able to keep paying him those hours.
That doesn't make any sense. The shop gets the bulk of the labor rate + the parts markup on all work the technicians do. The more hours a tech flags, the more money they both make. There are techs in my shop who flag 150+ hours per pay period regularly. Management loves them.
Their rationale was “the highest paid tech in the shop before you couldn’t turn those hours and it’ll start some rifts if we keep giving you that amount of hours”.
So they moved him into management a year later after his GM World Class certification and paid him a higher salary. It was politics.
GREAT VIDEO BRO!!!!! I agree with everything you had to say!!!! I would add to always go in with the mindset that today I will make twice what I made yesterday and I will do twice as good quality. You need to have that mindset every day imo
As always thank you for all you do brother and keep the videos coming !!!
I actually cut less corners now than i ever did working hourly... I work flat rate now .. Pretty much working for myself now .so i do not ever wanna fix a car a second time after the car broke down...tow truck bill... Customer / owner mad .. Nah ill do it right n not havta worry about it
Great mindset man!
Flat rate is a great way to make money if you are willing to invest in yourself. This means having the tools to eliminate time burping cooling systems. Your own refrigerant recovery machines, ball joint and wheel bearing presses. It allows you to stay moving instead of waiting
The irony of a Fiat/ Chrysler tech calling Toyota junk 😂
No. Shit.
Lol Toyota is the best paying manufacture out there
The Japanese make the best vehicles in world
Excellent video, loads of experience here. Thanks for the vid.
do auto mechanics get write offs for the tools and equipment they have to buy for work since it isn't provided?
I dont like flat rate for the simple fact I had a vehicle on my lift that had no brakes... parts had to order the rotors and a new tire I had to wait for the tires all I had in between was a pdi... I was only granted to use one lift
I woulda raised that car all the way up and pulled shit in under it and used jack stands lol fuck it
Id put it outside usin the parking brake
From what I heard, everybody is slowly ditching book time. Between the inflation and the shortages...its not worth it.
Although, if a mech knows the cheat codes (start destructive), if they finish early, they'll still bank book time.
Based on the flat rate system...I went to McDonalds the other day and ordered a burger. I realized shortly after that I was more hungry than I thought, so I went back to the counter and ordered a second burger and said that I was only going to pay half the the price for the second burger because the grille was already hot. They told me to leave.
At what point while working do you enter your jobs into the docs? Love this idea and want to give it a try once i go flat rate or even now before i change into it. Appreciate your tips!
As soon as I turn the tickets in as a done job is when I calculate them in.
@@RustbeltMechanic is there a premade form like the one youre using?
@@420mrcollins I was wondering the same...
nice video, I like this guy....
Thanks😁👍
When I worked flat rate. I bought tools that let me do it faster then the Service Manual says. It made up for them slow ass shops. That you waxed your tool box. Till something come in. It happens long enough. I leave. Money I can make back. Time once lost. I'm not getting that back..
Key points I took away is: Organization. Not just tools but of time as well. Do the job right the first time.
I worked at a ford dealership as a diesel tech in I just quit after 14 year in found me a hourly job where I make alot more then what I did before hourly I will never work at another dealership again flat rate sucks ass
My dealership uses cdk what program does your dealer use? Btw I’m a Chrysler tech as well. Good vid man
We use cdk as well, but a very basic version.
Awesome video!
I would like to get your opinion or anybody else’s opinion that works at a dealership. Currently I work at a shop and have been for a few years now. I have a couple ASEs and was interested in getting into a dealership. I have an interview tomorrow morning at a Honda dealer a couple towns over and wondering what should I expect with not having any dealership experience. My manager at my current shop found out about the interview and was trying to talk me out of it. Telling me I’m going to be the oil change guy because I’ll be the newest and any work I write up, will be given to the other techs. I’m wondering if this is actually a thing in dealerships, or if he’s just blowing smoke up my butt. Thanks
Depends on your work ethic...unless you’re master certified then you will be doing at least SOME oil changes. My recommendations would be to not turn down a single job that gets given to you and do each job the absolute best as possible. Also be willing to go get certifications for that specific manufacturer and let them know that.
Rustbelt Mechanic Ok awesome, thank you
Thats what the interview is for. If you already have a job you have nothing to lose. Ask if you will be the oil change guy. If you havent been in the dealership world it may be to your benefit to take a few oil changes while you learn the computer systems for diagnosis and programming.
That's not always the case if you have no experience and no ases then more likely then not but the interviewer will tell you what position they have at what rate you can always say no and that if they are looking for someone with your quals to give you a call and you'll come on board but if you like the open spot and rate take it I liked working on at both dealerships I worked at
I've heard of both happening. fair shop won't but if it's one of those we got our favorites or the ones that stick the your still learning on everything beware of that kinda thing
As a new tech i have been struggling a little with flat rate, i have to learn so many new systems that take longer than normal. like right now in my bay i've got a car i've been working for 18hrs, 12 of which where diag. 4 of those where talking to tech-line. now im replacing the floor harness after it was replaced last year, the main reason the diag took so long(service manager didnt want to warranty the harness because he new i wouldn't get any money). turns out a rat ate the harness, yay i get paid. customer doesnt want to pay, trades the car in, now i get 90% of labor time ontop of the 16hr labor rate for the harness. this took 3 weeks, on and off diag of the car made it so i only got an average of 28hrs a week. I cannot wait for this car to be gone...
Dude, I totally understand this struggle. There have been a few weeks here and there where you get bit but that’s why I tell guys more often to be sure to have a weeks worth of savings put back for shitty weeks here and there through your career. Way more often though you’ll have weeks where you’ll be the one making bank👍🏻
@@RustbeltMechanic in the end you truly don’t fucking win. It’s not stable. And what money you manage to save will go to your bills when u don’t make money the next week. It’s like they designed this system as a big fuck you sayin what are you going to do ab it?
@@ethanwelch6345 the best way to work to win with the flat rate system is to have save money like he said. If you have 30k save up your approach will be different less stress trying to make it so the work will come to you easier
@@thebridge5483 why do you mean by the work will come to you easier with less stress?
Dealerships are to slow. I’ve worked a couple dealerships and they couldn’t keep me busy enough. It was a joke. Customers don’t trust them. I like working and talking to the customers and explaining and showing them what’s going on with their car and they wouldn’t let me. I run a private shop now and got customers scheduling 2-3 weeks out
Same story with me not much going on and I too miss talking with customers when it comes to letting them know the condition their vehicle
warranty time aka theft.
no way in hell can you even remotely gonna break even.
manufacturers should be investigated gor not paying their techs because none of them do.
Ya , us techs should look at the GM strike . Ban together..weened to start a nation wide union. If every tech walled out of every dealer ship what do you think would happen ???
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They would hire new ones......... For less at that...
Don't ever think you know it all either
david oberg this can be said in any industry lol
So what are you supposed to do when your employer keeps cutting book time and demanding more from you? Example: all the menu items like lof/rotate, brake jobs, fluid services, etc... Isn’t there some protection from this for the tech? How is the employer within his rights to cut the book time I should be being paid?
Will never again work flat rate. In a shop with a manager and your low on the pecking order, you are the one that sweeps up, takes out the trash and such. All this while the old timer's are getting the good paying jobs. You stave and are poor while others (mechanics and shop owners) rake in the money. With every thing that needs done, that doesn't pay flat rate, the young one stay poor.
Hey, could you by chance post the template for the google sheets ro tracking?
Nevermind I found that video
Great advice!!! Love the video.
This is a Great Video!!! Awesome run Down in everything. Is there any way that you could do a more in depth video on the “work hours” form ? Like how do you set up the spread sheet portion of it to track total hrs etc. And how long do you do a form ? ( like for the whole month or for each pay period ?). Again awesome vid, hope to hear back. Thanks!
Miguel Hormazabal thanks man! And actually here’s the link to the video of the forms we made for our shop...
ruclips.net/video/wLHmNjRJlS4/видео.html
Rustbelt Mechanic thank you !!
If we got paid a salary. Maybe we'd put the extra care and patience to diagnosing and being more sufficient. I just don't believe its fair. Paychecks always fluctuating
Sounds like a pretty rough place to work for... toolboxes always have wheels. Grease them babies up!
Thought I head u say that program was google documents. I’m wondering if that will work in my I phone for my work. I have almost the same info u do so I
Hopping it might help me with keeping track of my units I work on.
Yep google docs works on iPhone, I use it
When does the clock start ticking for the book time?say it's a pre sold ticket but it sits on the board for awhile. when the ticket is first written?
What happens if it takes a long time to wait for parts after a job is sold?
Did you program the truck to your 37" tires yet? Are your rpms on the low side and lacking little power?
I have not programmed the speedo to be accurate yet for the tires. My navigation radio has my speed so I haven’t been in a hurry to do it, but I will eventually. I am not lacking power right now but then again it is all stock...for now😁
2:29 not the extra poo break 💩 🤣🤣
Thanks great video
great video bro ... i would like to know where can i find your toolbox i like how it have the space on top for your computer
Check put my other videos, I have a toolbox tour on it as well
Get the best of both worlds. Find an hourly pay shop that has an efficiency commission. I make 35 an hour and can get from 5 to 9 dollars an hour extra per month for being efficient. 5 dollars an hour starts at 75 percent efficiency🤙🏼 Also this is a truck dealership, not auto.
The #1 advice
Wup your coworkers ass's that are responsible for the technician's that are dispatched all the good money making jobs while your getting fed all the BS jobs.
I found a place that pays hourly. That's the only way to solve this problem.
#2 pay the service advisor based off of flat rate labor also and they will never ever get the labor wrong and I mean never!
Great video
Im glad that im a BMW mechanic in the Scandinavian, we get payed for all or hours we are at work and if we work faster and the dealership make more money we also get a bonus at the end of the month. We making 55K dollar easy here in the year, but what is normal in USA?
Evolution Anywhere from 30-100k depending on experience and training is average
I made 45k my first year in and then switched shops and went way down. Now about three years later I’ll finally hit that number again, and then go up next year.
No wasted movement . Focus .
Great info
Can you please share your google doc sheet and how you integrate it with your phone? Thanks a bunch!
ruclips.net/video/wLHmNjRJlS4/видео.html
Google drive is also an app on most platforms
Thanks I just got it working! Didn’t know there was a google forms! Thanks again!
Thanks for info.👍
I work at Lithia Dodge, cdk is a joke, that’s our only way to keep track of hours, I feel they need to put an updated version out.
Last October brought my car into Lithia. I am having a ton of issues that are well known and all over the internet, so I thought it best to bring it to a Dodge dealer. In October they had the car for over a month. Over Christmas they had it about 2 weeks. Still having the same issues. When I brought it in over Christmas I told Julie over the phone and wrote in on the envelope I dropped the keys in for service that whatever is wrong with the car is draining the battery and they would have to jump it. They had the nerve to not only come back to me and say the diagnosis was a dead battery, DUH, but charge me $130 for it. I wrote to the GM of Lithia more than a month ago and have had no response. .
What is the template called to keep track of hours and work and to ?
I explain it all in this video
ruclips.net/video/wLHmNjRJlS4/видео.html
Flats rate sounds terrible.
It is
Annnd plus there's a up sale as well
All techs know about the extra "poo break" you speak of. LOL Gotta have a nice poo break every once in awhile.
Flat rate should be illegal.
Let's talk about what steps we need to take to eliminate the flat rate system it's time for a new pay system for technicians.
@3:33 Yeah, you like getting exploited for profit, right?
@3:35 Okay, you don't but why don't you blame them, then? 🤷♂ It seems like you are sugarcoating for the sake of not getting in trouble.
@7:04 How they deal with mistakes is the interesting part.
I kéep track of my time with the flag sheets. The time typing on the phone is only duplicate of what has already been put on the flag sheet.
Charlie Magoo Thats true, i keep my copy for at least a week so my time matches my pay stub
It's absolutely not 95% of techs, my man. It's a LOT less than that. It's a system that is going away, and for good reason. I won't whine about it too much because it's been okay to me on the whole...but it's getting to be less and less all the time. Toyota is an example I can give from experience. They are a manufacturer looking at other ways of paying techs...more fair ways, at that.
thank god i get paid hourly
1. I hurt myself from how hard I cringed at the washing method you used on your truck
2. NO ANTI SEIZE ON LUG STUDS
3. Flexing your airpods.... lol
The truck is all bedlined...no scratching no worries
Nice truck
at 10:20 Scotty Kilmer would wrestle you for this.
Bring it Scotty!!😂💪🏻
How do you set up the google docs for that format for keep track of hours
Search Rustbelt google form and I have a video on it
If a job takes longer than a requirement time can the mechanic charge the customer for that time ?
No, not generally at least. Unless you run into something very unforeseen and early in the job,you can only charge what was quoted
Flat rate is garbage, my work got new owners and switched it to hourly rate no matter what, much better. The book times are always way off screwing the technician over, for instance a timing belt on a Toyota Camry with a V6 stated 2.5 hours . Only a mechanic who does this every week could do it that quickly, So happy I get a good wage no matter what instead of that bullshit.
Cutting corners shouldnt be done, that's why we all hate aftermarket installs lol.
And they're are a few different kinds of pay types, and 2 types of flat rate that happen down here.
And owww wish all us techs could throw in on the issues with the pay systems lol.
If you want to work your ass off every minute of the day and possibly lose your ass this is the job for you.
It sucks when 80 percent of the work dispatched to you is bunch of warranty bs. And when it is CP, its a simple oil change that most of the time pays .50. Fuxking hate this favoritism bs they have here. I stress out on pay here , than my part time job at autozone. I make only half there than at jaguar . Considering a new place , maybe even new field of work.
Oh also , our company made this crap decision where we can no longer check our hours on our computers. Or even the work that's coming in that day.
How did you make that hr tracking google document??
Check out this video I did... ruclips.net/video/wLHmNjRJlS4/видео.html
Fuck flat rate..... Nobody should agree to work flat rate......
I work for a BMW dealership and we get a base salary plus flat rate. Our flat rate kicks in after 80+ hours every month (warranty and customer pay hours) So you either be lazy and get base or push harder and go home with 5 figures...luxury brands are the goal 👍🏼🔧
Do you work in the states, that sounds like a really fair pay system!