Oh yeah, I forgot to show but it also defends perfectly against the MRLS And you can also use generators to power the other SAM Sites when the main SAM Site has a target, because generators have an option to "force start" and "force stop"
You can possibly make better by using no ammo output from the sams to turn the turrets back on. In case someone baits all of the sammo and parks a mini next to the sam to keep the turrets off (If people catch on to it ofc).
this is the kind of electrical content we need, I have been looking for more in depth videos like this one, I have some pretty impressive circuits myself and would love to ask. How would you go about building a waste energy charging system for battery backups on a large scale? there would have to be one output for base energy mains/backup that links to the base circuit also. I have a functioning circuit but its very messy and often hits depth limit, I am wondering how you would go about solving this.
So if I get it right, let's say there's for example 2 large batteries, and what you are saying is if one battery wastes all his energy, the other will kick in?
All I can imagine now is someone doing a raid where they fly a minicopter over the base so the turrets lose power and they can steal the loot like some sort of bank heist.
So essentially, everything is in standby mode until needed then it turns on and turns off when completed. That way you aren't using loads of power keeping everything turned on all the time.
so you basically use 1 sam site to track any heli that passes but when the sam sites are engaged, the auto turrets get turned off to let the power flow to the sam sites. This is useful but if you have that many SAMS and Turrets you should already have 2 windmills or even more. The circuit is awesome and very creative so you have thumbs up!
So he always keeps 1 SAM powered as a scout, which leaves enough power for his turrets, and then diverts power from his turrets to the other 2 SAM Sites when the scout has a target, right?
This is a great idea. A summary for people who already know electricity basics: you keep just a single SAM site online to detect aerial targets, and use its "has target" output to route power to your other SAM sites at the expense of your turrets (or anything else which doesn't need to be running during an aerial attack). The more SAM sites you have, the more power this saves. Careful, though, because if that single "lookout' SAM is destroyed, all of your SAMs become useless. Explanation for others: There are 4 separate tricks here: 1. In a similar way to how AND/OR gates are the only way to programmatically change which INPUT power source you want to take from, memory cells are the only component that let you programmatically switch which OUTPUT to send an arbitrary amount of power to. 2. To get JUST the behaviour of trick (1) without the "memory" functionality -- meaning, to make the memcell switch outputs back to default again the moment your "switch the output" signal goes off -- you just take your "switch the output" signal (which should be being routed into the memcell's "set" input), split that with a branch/splitter, invert the duplicate signal with a blocker, and plug that inverted signal into the "reset" input of the memcell. So now "set" is being triggered when "switch the output" turns on, and "reset" is being triggered when "switch the output" turns off. 3. You generally don't need your turrets AND your SAM sites to be powered at the exact same time, because players usually won't attack on the ground at the same time as a heli or MRLS attack. 4. Because your SAM sites generally have the same view of the sky, you only need to power a single (very power-expensive) SAM site to get pretty much the same coverage for heli/MLRS detection as if had them all powered.
@@Gabe-cobalt Thats actually totally genius to save energy. I really love that concept. I would love to know more about energy saving circuits. Have you tried to test if the circuit start fast enough to stop an MLRS attack? I mean those rockets are quite fast and the Sam Site need to turn on for a split of a second before it shoots - right?
The Memory cell is like 2 train tracks, and you can choose where the train goes. The Blocker is like a switch, but you turn off the switch if you let electricity go on the side spot of the Blocker.
valid idea but im not sure it would b very useful. i think that since sam sites are expensive, people want to use them as efficiently as possible to like cover range around the base looking for helis, so each sam site needs to constantly be on so it can look for helis since each sam site sees a different area. So while this design is good as it saves power, i feel like its better in most cases to just have them all on and monitoring. However I would like to see how this plays against MLRS, since when ur defending against mlrs its more about firepower than range. Maybe the animation/delay for turning on would be too long to make it useful (tbh i forgot how bad the delay is). Most likely i think that since most people use sams for both helis and mlrs, its probably still better to have them on all the time. idk tho this could have potential. efficiency improvements are probably possible too.
it turns of the turrets temporarily whenever the sam sites have a target so you can still maintain turrets running but also have the sam sites needed for mlrs and helis only powered off of 1 battery
Oh ahahahaha! That thing is completely useless, I watched some videos about that and they even made it wrong. The correct way of doing that is to have a memory cell so when the solar panel doesn't make enough electricity, the memory cell changes state to recharge the battery with the remaining solar panel power (The wrong way is ignoring the remaining solar power). For example, MisterFlak did a video about that and it has right now 222K views and he clearly didn't know what he was doing because he even did it worst than the wrong way, he put a splitter (instead of a branch) to divide the power to the battery and the power consumers (Ex: Turret), which makes no sense. The correct way, that has a memory cell, is also not worth doing, I tested using some math, a wind turbine, and a medium battery and the overall efficiency just adds 5%! You see? 5 God Dam %. This happens because the components to make this "infinite power loop" waste Rust Watts from the power supply. Some other details: The smaller your power supply is, the less % efficiency you will have. The bigger your power supply is, the more % efficiency you will have. On overall, it's not worth doing this system and efficiency is negligible
@@Gabe-cobalt the circuit mentioned definitely wasn't made to be efficient. it was more a working theory of how to power with a battery at night and solar panel in the day. The real best way to have "unlimited power" is multiple windmills and large batteries due to their cheapness.
@@Gabe-cobalt that's fucking cool. Please link this when it's up. I'm into CEH and security, it's very interesting to see your videos because it gives a little bit of a view how you working
@@Gabe-cobalt It can be done to open doors to expose more turrets though? When turrets in the core of the base have a target then turrets in compound or other hidden spots will be uncovered to trap raiders?
@@Gabe-cobalt Gabe.. How to spend time with you finding new things.. Be my sensei.. I'm playing rust from Legacy days. Some of your idea in video.. Were there in rust legacy.. For example the stand on top of a tree.. 😂
The idea is very good but the integration is bad. I congratulate you for the contribution since it is the solution to a very common supply problem. The only thing I don't like is that when the SAMs are on, the auto turrets are off. This is a security problem and they leave you a minicopter in an area like the one you have put in the video. But otherwise, it's genius. Allow me to copy you and name you on my electricity channel in Spanish. Thank you for your fabulous contribution and greetings.
BUT you didnt have power to your "in base" items. imagine this: some want to attack your base at night and trigger your sam sites. from this moment till it stops shooting, you didnt have light in your base and all turrets are off... not THAT good. but still a nice idea Gabe :)
I saw your video when it was first released and could not find it after so I made my own circuit. It uses less components and in my opinion is a bit simpler to make and understand. I thought you might be interested in the design but idk how to send the image since it does not allow sending links and your discord server invitations are invalid.
Я не до конца понял, если ты будешь пролетать быстро рядом успеют ли активироваться турели? И ещё защищает ли такая система базу mlrs ракет? Если ты это проверял отпишись пожалуйста. Спасибо заранее.
The turrets will be again activated when that SAM Site doesn't have a target anymore, so if you go kamikaze with the helicopter, the turrets will turn on in 2 seconds. Yes, I even pinned a comment on that.
@@aindriu5671 Yes, they obviously exist, there just aren't very many of them so your options are limited. The community, server rates, population, group size, wipe day, etc are all very limited. I'm fairly certain that biweekly servers are less than 5% of activitly listed servers.
It's a cool idea but not practical. If you loose the first Sam, all other Sam will turn off. If you have this music electronic stuff than you are rich and you can manage more power generation stuff
not going to lie, my head hurts after listening to all that mumbo jumbo talk my man lmao ...love your shit though, cuz of you, was able to teach myself to floor stack last night for first time, anymore NEW ways to floor stack and neat base trips and tricks, look forward to seeing them!
@@swiftyy7583 Not every change to the game is going to be as game breaking, but I would much rather prefer 1-2 windmills than 4-6. Therefore I think this change is pretty significant, and will be used a lot more for furture base designs with less upkeep. Less windmills = Smaller base = Less upkeep.
Oh yeah, I forgot to show but it also defends perfectly against the MRLS
And you can also use generators to power the other SAM Sites when the main SAM Site has a target, because generators have an option to "force start" and "force stop"
The fact that most players wont understand any of this makes me happy. I love having useful knowledge in this game other than “Beam AK”.
Completely agree
So many 5k rust players can do everything but setup electric. (Beyond the basics)
@@zachwithnok I have 10k hours and can't set up electricity lmfao idek why I'm watching this 💀💀
@@stonerslawth6258 same haha
look man i know how to setup up badic electricity but this is flying ng confusing af xD
I can't wait to try this at home. Somehow I always knew the rust community would solve the energy crisis. Thanks Gabe.
No problem mate
rofl
You can possibly make better by using no ammo output from the sams to turn the turrets back on. In case someone baits all of the sammo and parks a mini next to the sam to keep the turrets off (If people catch on to it ofc).
Yeah that's good! Or if you are online, just have a button to change the memory cell state
this is the kind of electrical content we need, I have been looking for more in depth videos like this one, I have some pretty impressive circuits myself and would love to ask.
How would you go about building a waste energy charging system for battery backups on a large scale? there would have to be one output for base energy mains/backup that links to the base circuit also.
I have a functioning circuit but its very messy and often hits depth limit, I am wondering how you would go about solving this.
So if I get it right, let's say there's for example 2 large batteries, and what you are saying is if one battery wastes all his energy, the other will kick in?
I think he's talking about the old electric system where a battery used the maximum output and if you didn't use it all, it was wasted
@@calebwatson966 i used my old circit for years because i didnt know it was changed lol it happens
why go to highschool to learn electricity when we have rust
Ahaha
All I can imagine now is someone doing a raid where they fly a minicopter over the base so the turrets lose power and they can steal the loot like some sort of bank heist.
Yeah but nobody will do that
So essentially, everything is in standby mode until needed then it turns on and turns off when completed. That way you aren't using loads of power keeping everything turned on all the time.
Always impressive Gabe! My humble informed appreciation!
Thank you Jack :D
Mr Mackey from South Park plays rust now...mkay 😂
Thank you for the video!
No problem
so you basically use 1 sam site to track any heli that passes but when the sam sites are engaged, the auto turrets get turned off to let the power flow to the sam sites. This is useful but if you have that many SAMS and Turrets you should already have 2 windmills or even more. The circuit is awesome and very creative so you have thumbs up!
a little bit of lag...my computer is potato...sorry about that xD
So he always keeps 1 SAM powered as a scout, which leaves enough power for his turrets, and then diverts power from his turrets to the other 2 SAM Sites when the scout has a target, right?
This is a great idea. A summary for people who already know electricity basics: you keep just a single SAM site online to detect aerial targets, and use its "has target" output to route power to your other SAM sites at the expense of your turrets (or anything else which doesn't need to be running during an aerial attack). The more SAM sites you have, the more power this saves. Careful, though, because if that single "lookout' SAM is destroyed, all of your SAMs become useless.
Explanation for others:
There are 4 separate tricks here:
1. In a similar way to how AND/OR gates are the only way to programmatically change which INPUT power source you want to take from, memory cells are the only component that let you programmatically switch which OUTPUT to send an arbitrary amount of power to.
2. To get JUST the behaviour of trick (1) without the "memory" functionality -- meaning, to make the memcell switch outputs back to default again the moment your "switch the output" signal goes off -- you just take your "switch the output" signal (which should be being routed into the memcell's "set" input), split that with a branch/splitter, invert the duplicate signal with a blocker, and plug that inverted signal into the "reset" input of the memcell. So now "set" is being triggered when "switch the output" turns on, and "reset" is being triggered when "switch the output" turns off.
3. You generally don't need your turrets AND your SAM sites to be powered at the exact same time, because players usually won't attack on the ground at the same time as a heli or MRLS attack.
4. Because your SAM sites generally have the same view of the sky, you only need to power a single (very power-expensive) SAM site to get pretty much the same coverage for heli/MLRS detection as if had them all powered.
So you can set Sam sites to turn on when one finds a target to save power but turns off the turrets for a slight second, correct?
Correct. The power that was going to the turrets changed to go to the SAM Sites
@@Gabe-cobalt Thats actually totally genius to save energy. I really love that concept. I would love to know more about energy saving circuits. Have you tried to test if the circuit start fast enough to stop an MLRS attack? I mean those rockets are quite fast and the Sam Site need to turn on for a split of a second before it shoots - right?
i still have no idea how memory cells, blockers or anything work lmao, i only understand the splitters,branches, and simple stuff like that
The Memory cell is like 2 train tracks, and you can choose where the train goes. The Blocker is like a switch, but you turn off the switch if you let electricity go on the side spot of the Blocker.
Blockers/solar panel great for auto night lights/recharging batteries, memory cells still fox me a bit tho.
valid idea but im not sure it would b very useful. i think that since sam sites are expensive, people want to use them as efficiently as possible to like cover range around the base looking for helis, so each sam site needs to constantly be on so it can look for helis since each sam site sees a different area. So while this design is good as it saves power, i feel like its better in most cases to just have them all on and monitoring. However I would like to see how this plays against MLRS, since when ur defending against mlrs its more about firepower than range. Maybe the animation/delay for turning on would be too long to make it useful (tbh i forgot how bad the delay is). Most likely i think that since most people use sams for both helis and mlrs, its probably still better to have them on all the time. idk tho this could have potential. efficiency improvements are probably possible too.
Mr Gabckey, my boolean algebra isn’t as fancy as yours.
🤣
Can someone make it on some kind of electricity simulator? I`d love to make it in game but its too complicated for me :D
You explained the mem cell like a train track. *mind blown*
Realistically adding more power generation through a turbine to keep all that powered is easier and maybe cheaper solution :-)
Gabe what is your accent? :) I’ve wondered for ages
I'm from Portugal
So that’s why you sound like Integza
Rwandan
@@cobra4439 Lol
The train track analogy was genius.
Ahahaha, thanks
Gave you got some legit tips man!
but if you park the heli as you did, all the turrets will be off
kind of a weak spot, though hard to achieve
Yes but nobody will do that. And I also answered this on another comment
@@Gabe-cobalt it‘s alright. useful setup regardless
can someone please explain in broad terms what this does precisely? what is its benefit?
it turns of the turrets temporarily whenever the sam sites have a target so you can still maintain turrets running but also have the sam sites needed for mlrs and helis only powered off of 1 battery
You need only 1 battery/1 wind mill normally you would need 2 battery and 2 wind mills to power all that..
Come on dude
@@Gabe-cobalt lol poor youtuber makes a WHOLE ASS VIDEO about it "so hum... how does it work?"
@@Hi-Hi. OHHH!!! I see!!! THANKS Hi Hi!
just confused about the OR gate for maintaining the main sam
Otherwise it won't get powered
Gabe you got the resources to test this...
Please try to MLRS onto the cargo ship.. 😂
Maybe an idea to counter cargo.. 😂 😂
(using mlrs - flex)
Lol...
Use mlrs to counter or kill juggernauts at oil rig
I still prefer the infinite power loop. This is just for very small budget.
Oh ahahahaha! That thing is completely useless, I watched some videos about that and they even made it wrong. The correct way of doing that is to have a memory cell so when the solar panel doesn't make enough electricity, the memory cell changes state to recharge the battery with the remaining solar panel power (The wrong way is ignoring the remaining solar power). For example, MisterFlak did a video about that and it has right now 222K views and he clearly didn't know what he was doing because he even did it worst than the wrong way, he put a splitter (instead of a branch) to divide the power to the battery and the power consumers (Ex: Turret), which makes no sense.
The correct way, that has a memory cell, is also not worth doing, I tested using some math, a wind turbine, and a medium battery and the overall efficiency just adds 5%! You see? 5 God Dam %. This happens because the components to make this "infinite power loop" waste Rust Watts from the power supply. Some other details: The smaller your power supply is, the less % efficiency you will have. The bigger your power supply is, the more % efficiency you will have. On overall, it's not worth doing this system and efficiency is negligible
@@Gabe-cobalt the circuit mentioned definitely wasn't made to be efficient. it was more a working theory of how to power with a battery at night and solar panel in the day. The real best way to have "unlimited power" is multiple windmills and large batteries due to their cheapness.
Well, then your viewers didn't see it as you expected it
@@Gabe-cobalt it seems like it. Keep up the great work man, love your exploits ❤️
@@MisterFlak 👍🏽
So this video show how you can split the power when one has a target the other one off?
The power of the turrets got changed to the power of the other SAM Sites
Gabe, are u like a pentester? Or doing bug bountys? Or you just doing the things in rust for fun?
Ahahaha... I'm actually going to sell exploits as nft soon on opensea...
@@Gabe-cobalt that's fucking cool. Please link this when it's up. I'm into CEH and security, it's very interesting to see your videos because it gives a little bit of a view how you working
Does it work for MLRS as well ? I mean MLRS seem as a target as well like heli ?
Didn't you see my comment?
I didn't understand anything 20 seconds in but I watched the whole thing
Oh xD
very nice will definitely use
Good!
Hell yeah, very good explanation Gabe! Love your videos, explaining the why is my favorite thing!
Thanks Bubba!
that is quite ingenious, very good my dude,
Thanks my guy
Dude that's pretty neat, wont drain a battery super fast. Thanks!
No problem mate!
mmmmkaayyy...sounds like the dude off southpark
MMMmkay
So, he use one sam suite as sensor to activate other SAM .. this can also be done with turrets
I also thought about that, but now really think about it, it's terrible.
@@Gabe-cobalt It can be done to open doors to expose more turrets though? When turrets in the core of the base have a target then turrets in compound or other hidden spots will be uncovered to trap raiders?
Who would have thought mr mackey would solve the worlds energy problem???
Shoutout to the Swedish Chef
Lmao
Gabe a base design concept please..(like an actual base)
You always have out of the box ideas.
Maybe we all can move on from 2x2...😂
I don't like people building others people's bases. I will never do any base design video, I want the people to make a base design by themselves
@@Gabe-cobalt Gabe.. How to spend time with you finding new things.. Be my sensei..
I'm playing rust from Legacy days.
Some of your idea in video.. Were there in rust legacy.. For example the stand on top of a tree.. 😂
@@newbieme9051 Oh yeah... I loved playing Rust Legacy, I remember doing /tp small and teleporting to the top of a tree lol...
@@Gabe-cobalt I use to hide boom in a small box on top of random trees..
And the running of hours and hours to make a base.. 😂
Another awesome video, keep it up!
Thanks!
The idea is very good but the integration is bad. I congratulate you for the contribution since it is the solution to a very common supply problem. The only thing I don't like is that when the SAMs are on, the auto turrets are off. This is a security problem and they leave you a minicopter in an area like the one you have put in the video. But otherwise, it's genius. Allow me to copy you and name you on my electricity channel in Spanish. Thank you for your fabulous contribution and greetings.
So basically the turrets are on and the sams are off but when sams detect target...turrets are off and sams are on. Correct?
Why are you asking, you got it
@@Gabe-cobalt Just confirming
BUT you didnt have power to your "in base" items.
imagine this: some want to attack your base at night and trigger your sam sites. from this moment till it stops shooting, you didnt have light in your base and all turrets are off... not THAT good. but still a nice idea Gabe :)
Yes but nobody will do that, let's be realistic.
@@Gabe-cobalt They should install maybe 4 emergency lights with generator that turns on when the SAM sites target.
WE LOVE GABE
I saw your video when it was first released and could not find it after so I made my own circuit. It uses less components and in my opinion is a bit simpler to make and understand. I thought you might be interested in the design but idk how to send the image since it does not allow sending links and your discord server invitations are invalid.
Go to my last video and join the discord
Lucky at least this time you won't get banned from the build server lol.
Lol...
MAN you need to say "hmmkay" after every sentence PLEASE XDDDD
My friend/teammate, hates you, but I love you!
Thanks Joe
You good sir....made my day❤
You tested it for the mlrs ?
I pinned a comment, yes
bro ur a genius
very cool, i love it. definitely learning every time i click on your videos
:D
Thanks for the tips!
:D
i thought i was good at electricity, i changed my mind.
Does it wake up the other two sam sites quick enough to target a mrls volley?
yeah I was wondering that also
Yes
this trick is good for MLRS counter... welldone GABE
Okay Mr Garrison
mmkay
This is actually insane
Very nice Gabe.
Thanks Old :D
Genius bro
Thanks gabe!!!
No problem mate
Your voice is so smooth 🥰
Thank you :)
Yeeey New vid.
Я не до конца понял, если ты будешь пролетать быстро рядом успеют ли активироваться турели? И ещё защищает ли такая система базу mlrs ракет?
Если ты это проверял отпишись пожалуйста. Спасибо заранее.
The turrets will be again activated when that SAM Site doesn't have a target anymore, so if you go kamikaze with the helicopter, the turrets will turn on in 2 seconds. Yes, I even pinned a comment on that.
Ty Gabe. That is very helpfull
:D
You didn't even slap a clip in of us chilling on the beach with the epic music.. sad
DUDE is Liget Mr.MACKEY From South Park .. MKAY ... MKAY ..
No one said anything about his, “mmkay” like mr. Mackey?
Mmmmmmmkay
You're a wizard..
🧙♂
I love electricity in this game, but it is criminally under used. I wish the wipe cycles were slightly longer, I'd love a good biweekly server.
?? rustoria US and EU are top tier biweekly servers...
@@aindriu5671 Yes, they obviously exist, there just aren't very many of them so your options are limited. The community, server rates, population, group size, wipe day, etc are all very limited. I'm fairly certain that biweekly servers are less than 5% of activitly listed servers.
greatest rust videos ever
Thank you
subscribed cus u sound like Carl Sagan
Hahahaha
Удобно в случае малого количества электроэнергии, но может плохо отработать против mlrs.
This is really good for solo/duo/trio's that will only run 1 windmill/large battery but want to have sam sites & turrets to defend thanks for sharing.
Awesome!
You’d need more than 1 turbine to keep the battery charged though right? Would you use solar or another turbine?
Me who dont really understand what he is speaking 50%
Mmkay
It's a cool idea but not practical. If you loose the first Sam, all other Sam will turn off. If you have this music electronic stuff than you are rich and you can manage more power generation stuff
Wow this is a gamechanger
love it ,keep it up,mkey
LETS GO GABEEEE
Did anyone ever tell you that you sound like MR Mackey from South Park mkay?
Didn't you get game banned
you sound like Caesar in monty python
Keep it up!
Oh! you are the guy who made that external device to turn on/off smart switches! Thanks
not going to lie, my head hurts after listening to all that mumbo jumbo talk my man lmao ...love your shit though, cuz of you, was able to teach myself to floor stack last night for first time, anymore NEW ways to floor stack and neat base trips and tricks, look forward to seeing them!
LOVE YOU BRO!!!
Great video!
Thank you Frostyy
very smart idea I just don’t see why this would be useful because of how easy power is to get
If your windmills are getting griefed you don't have to rely on all of them, plus it makes it cheaper for smaller groups or solos.
@@SamuraiJr even as a solo it’s so easy to get windmills and doing all that power would take so long trying to figure it out i just don’t see a point
@@swiftyy7583 Not every change to the game is going to be as game breaking, but I would much rather prefer 1-2 windmills than 4-6. Therefore I think this change is pretty significant, and will be used a lot more for furture base designs with less upkeep. Less windmills = Smaller base = Less upkeep.
Does it work against mlrs
not going to give the schematics, just the concept. i have no problem with this, i enjoyed it. this is a huge mistake
is that you mr mackey!?!?
I love your accent! Sorry about the laaag... LOL
MmmKay kids were gonna learn about guns today mkayy??.. mmkaay
Yeah, mkay
Top accent
i love the mmmmmmk
So raiders have to destroy only one sam... gg XD
u the genius one
you sound like mr garrison from south park lol