Awesome simulation and really interesting results! Really interesting to know that you can get so much extra power out of these S-turns. They definitely gain you a few places near the back of the UK ILCA nationals. Got to add this dissertation to the reading list. My understanding was that these turns helped you surf the waves, and keep your speed up, while not ploughing forward into the next wave until you see a gap. However, it never made sense why it was faster than surfing diagonally down the waves for several boat lengths in alternate directions (which wasn't faster than someone sailing in a straight line when I tried it)
It would be interesting to see the results of this study at different wind speeds. I imagine that the differences in downwind angles to sail an asymmetric spinnaker boat downwind in light vs heavy wind would be relevant to how to sail a laser downwind in various wind speeds also.
Super interesting. What do you think is the impact of the frequency? Does it also help to do the S turn, trimming and rolling more slowly? (That way you don't risk to get a penalty.)
Interesting, I shall attempt to apply this in my lowrider Hawkmoth. The scows have us beat in the lightest of light airs because they can reduce their wetted surface so dramatically by healing.
What is the equivalent underwater part of the problem; the increase in driving force isn't the full story as you are generating more drag from turning, but there are also rolling benefits to the underwater side too.
Good question - there's not necessarily more drag from the turning, as you steer by heeling, following the turn with the rudder. Heel means less wet area, so could be even beneficial. You are right, there could be benefits from rolling through the underwater fins, too, although the centreboard would be lifted. Maybe someday I will do the underwater sim as well.
Do you have implemented transition models for the intralaminar characteristics of the viscous sublayer? And what is your Reynolds Number please ? Y+ value would also be intersting to know
XFlow uses a non-equilibrium wall function to model the boundary layer. This wall model takes into account the adverse pressure gradients responsible for flow separation, important in aerodynamics analysis. Moreover, the wall model is automatically disabled as soon as the lattice size near walls is small enough to resolve directly the flow in the boundary layer. There is no transition model, XFlow assumes turbulent flow. The Reynols number varies obviously a lot in different parts of the model, as does Y+.
Talking to umpires, yes. You are allowed to steer the boat through heeling: Heel to windward to bear away, and to leeward to head up. So the S-turns technique should be OK, while sailing in straight line and just rocking the boat is not. S-turns could be something for Finn masters, for whom free pumping is too physical.
Awesome simulation and really interesting results!
Really interesting to know that you can get so much extra power out of these S-turns. They definitely gain you a few places near the back of the UK ILCA nationals.
Got to add this dissertation to the reading list. My understanding was that these turns helped you surf the waves, and keep your speed up, while not ploughing forward into the next wave until you see a gap. However, it never made sense why it was faster than surfing diagonally down the waves for several boat lengths in alternate directions (which wasn't faster than someone sailing in a straight line when I tried it)
These are awesome, cam you do more simply fascinating
This is amazing! Thanks a lot for sharing!!
Awesome!! Brilliant model! Thanks for sharing,
It would be interesting to see the results of this study at different wind speeds. I imagine that the differences in downwind angles to sail an asymmetric spinnaker boat downwind in light vs heavy wind would be relevant to how to sail a laser downwind in various wind speeds also.
Awesome!
Thank you a lot, we learned a lot from it!
Awesome! You should make one on snipes sailing downwind, with the pole and the flying jib and no spinnaker...
Super interesting. What do you think is the impact of the frequency? Does it also help to do the S turn, trimming and rolling more slowly? (That way you don't risk to get a penalty.)
Should I pull up my center board for the s turn? I'd assume so right but wouldn't that make it a little harder to turn accurately
Fantastic!
Interesting, I shall attempt to apply this in my lowrider Hawkmoth. The scows have us beat in the lightest of light airs because they can reduce their wetted surface so dramatically by healing.
Wow. Thank you !
What is the equivalent underwater part of the problem; the increase in driving force isn't the full story as you are generating more drag from turning, but there are also rolling benefits to the underwater side too.
Good question - there's not necessarily more drag from the turning, as you steer by heeling, following the turn with the rudder. Heel means less wet area, so could be even beneficial. You are right, there could be benefits from rolling through the underwater fins, too, although the centreboard would be lifted. Maybe someday I will do the underwater sim as well.
Do you have implemented transition models for the intralaminar characteristics of the viscous sublayer? And what is your Reynolds Number please ? Y+ value would also be intersting to know
XFlow uses a non-equilibrium wall function to model the boundary layer. This wall model takes into account the adverse pressure gradients responsible for flow separation, important in aerodynamics analysis. Moreover, the wall model is automatically disabled as soon as the lattice size near walls is small enough to resolve directly the flow in the boundary layer. There is no transition model, XFlow assumes turbulent flow. The Reynols number varies obviously a lot in different parts of the model, as does Y+.
thanks a lot
thanks bro~~
how does that square with Rule 42, for ILCA Lasers?
ruclips.net/video/ixxuoTn8hew/видео.html this might answer your question number 4
Ask Sir Ben ! He would never tell you all this. Top secret ! xxxxx
Is this even ok with rule 42?
Talking to umpires, yes. You are allowed to steer the boat through heeling: Heel to windward to bear away, and to leeward to head up. So the S-turns technique should be OK, while sailing in straight line and just rocking the boat is not. S-turns could be something for Finn masters, for whom free pumping is too physical.
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ruclips.net/video/ixxuoTn8hew/видео.html this might answer your question number 4
International laser class association, " formerly known as laser" ?🤨
Super interesting at any rate..cheers
Great information, though I would have preferred actual human voices narrating. I muted and used captions instead.
Huikeeta!
You will probably get a penalty for this, at least with bad judges definitely
same with upwind cycle 😂
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This is great thank you for sharing! #ilcalasersailor @ilcalasersailor
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