The BEST And WORST Weapons in The Finals Season 3
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2024
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13:24 Light tier list
20:47 Medium tier list
31:46 Heavy Tier list
31:48 All tiers combined
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He should really add these timestamps to his videos
@@seungltd I bet he would but this was posted while he was live at Dreamhack👍🏻
I feel like Embark missed a huge opportunity with the alt fire of the spear. Definitely would have been way more fun to throw the spear with the potential to pin enemy's to surfaces.
why does everyone have this crosshair 💀 🔲
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I got reticles on my monitor, I'm chilling
it’s the biggest possible crosshair in game, he got used to it bc he was using sa1216 in season 1
it’s a really funny crosshair though 😂😂
@@Ineednohelp same 🤣
The Crosshair in the finals is not actually centered but moves a lot but you shoot from the center of your screen and it is considered "cheating" (by embark) so people use the biggest Crosshair to minimize the effect of the shity Crosshair. You can notice if you're moving a lot that the Crosshair moves
Nah I play with the ingame crosshair
I really wish embark would stop balancing their guns with weird recoil patterns. It just makes the gunplay feel worse for most people. If they would focus more on range and time to kill to balance the guns and gave each gun a unique recoil patter without it being over the top, gunplay would feel soooo much better.
They need a whole new team because whomever they got balancing this game must be high out of there mind
to top it all off, console players have zero recoil xd
I think it’s because they genuinely don’t want the machine guns to beam people.
@@DillonBranfordExactly, what’s a sword or melee, grenade launcher, Revolver etc… going to do to an auto rifle that beams people 😂
I am stunned by that throwing knife rating. Ive been mowing through whole teams with those
Me to. The throwing knives in my opinion are S tier
I agree, but more so based on the way I get mowed down with them.
Depends, they are very bad in long range engagements and usually only get people who b-line to you or dont strafe at all
The Light with cloak and LH1 has become completely cancerous in Terminal Attack. Especially on the new map, you can count to about 5 after the prep phase and that's how long you have before 3 Lights uncloak from almost your own spawn and start mowing down the team with LH1's. Needs to be fixed asap
There's these things called thermal vision, sonar grenades, and motion sensor.
Any light is cancerous in any game mod. The only way you can do anything while playing light is to play like a little b*tch and annoy every other player in the lobby. It's horrible and i think that lights are the reason why the game is dying.
@@timothemagnier-coste175 oh yea def light is the reason not heavy with all their broken kit. And the winch claw def not an issue. Light's just busted.
@@Bagginsess idk what you mean by "broken kit", all we have is shilds that can be one shoted by glitch grenades or barels, the M60 and the Lewis gun with the most ridiculous recoil paterns and damages nerfed every two weeks, some barely usable shotguns and the hammer wich is nothing but troll at this point, all that while having an enormous hitbox and being slow as fuck, to make sure that lights with their 3000 dps weapons with no recoil don't miss us. The only way a heavy can win a 1v1 against a light is by using the rpg, but that shit litteraly go as far as it can from where you're targetting so it never hit anything. Sure, the winch claw is great, but it's gonna be nerfed to the ground soon when lights will continue to recieve only buffs .
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Sledgehammer with the goo gun is so powerful. Got into diamond three from gold with only sledge + goo.
You can block shots and freeze enemies with the goo gun and easily reach them with the sledge. You can also prevent a steal with just shooting a goo into the enemy. Super powerful as you don’t have to kill the enemy to prevent a steal
True, Heavy's weapons feel a little lacking after the recoil changes to Lewis and M60, Heavy in Season 3 very much feels like "We gave you the winch now play aggressive or you won't succeed".
Not to say M60/Shield isn't viable, it just feels to me like S3 is taking a turn for Aggression over Defensive
thats why lewis gun feel like shit now
Good
As a solo player, i am a lewis gun user since 3 seasons. I completly understand why the M60 can be better but cant use it. Cant pressure from long distance. The lewis is the only option to me. Thats too bad for variety.
@@Rienquelapulpe its funny tho m60 now has less recoil making it morr viable for long range combat
They need to give medium a movement ability to help with katanas
Tried the game yesterday and I was just shocked that someone with a gun runs at same speed as me with the swords, just doesn’t make any sense
You need to adjust the placement for the dual katanas. They only deflect bullets when the person is directly i front of you. If an opponent shoots you from a VERY slight different angle they just don't work.
This other time two enemies where both shooting in front of me so I moved reticle in between both of them and they were just standing right outside the crosshairs and it didnt block any of their bullets. Not deflect back to them. They didn't even block
Also, when you switch from gadgets or any item, the dual katanas make a kit, making unable to make guard instead
I skipped to the end to see the final list. As a Sledgehammer Goo Gun main, I completely agree with this list. Applies for all modes except Powershift with very little variation in placements.
Hey ottr i noticed they did a small change to the heavy Grenade Launcher the shots actually explode faster then they used to. Make you hits faster and makes it more smooth but it kinda took a little awhile from the distance you can play around with it. its not like a big change or anything i think it was just a silence balance on it.
The problems the finals has is it continues to add Mid to Shitty weapons every season and nothing that tops the meta, leading to the typical player feeling like nothing really changed and getting bored. We shouldn't been waiting 3 months for a new map + useless weapons.
Fun fact: If you use the spear spin attack on the power shift platform on a specific spot near the front, it will boost the platform forwards
Appreciate the uploads as always, thanks for helping this awesome game grow and improve! 🔥
I hope you feel better soon ottr, I respect the grind brother💯
I really like the bow. feels super rewarding landing headshots. it is however difficult to use. so difficult but rewarding. it feels like sniper but you're no longer afraid of close quarters.
new season is amazing so far thanks for the content
Awesome! i been waiting for this video... thanks bro.
The thermal bore makes the sniper A tier for sure
I actually think the bow is super smooth to use. It takes some time to get used to knowing when to hold and when to fire, but it’s really fun nonetheless.
For me the bow is A tier
The mgl32 is a situational weapon for sure. It's one of the few guns that can wipe a team in terminal attack if they are bunched up holding the platform. The destructive damage should be higher imo. Situational weapons where you can quickly switch to go for a play is where non meta weapons (and gadgets) should be used. Changing it to make grenades stick to players and then explode would be an option to buff it to make it more viable as a main weapon.
give the riot shield a break 😭
Cl-40 feels like im playing soldier in tf2 so for that reason its s-tier
soldier? why not demo? since you know...he has a grenade luncher
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Riot Shield is goated once you LEARN HOW TO PLAY IT - it’s not easy, but it’s not nearly as bad as you think it is. I solo’d to D3 on only riot shield, it works
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"Not easy" 😂😂😂
It aint easy, lol. Ur a gold peaker@@2smokingbarrels571
Yea like every weapon but it doesn't mean that it's goat. I was diamond with LH1 and dagger last season but dagger is really bad
@@2smokingbarrels571 these people think its skill spamming the leftclick and running after u
Does anyone feel like dual katanas and the bow would’ve been far better if they swapped classes?
dual katana could be very OP in light but in medium bow could miss its evasive light skills
Hard disagree on Katanas > Shield and just shield being lower than CL-40 in general.
Shield allows you to run while blocking majority of shots, which makes you extremely hard to kill in front if you are chasing an enemy. Katanas just stall the fights with deflect, not even allowing you to run and in very rare scenarios will let you kill a light or maybe medium.
Dagger trickstab has left the chat
Cl40 aint even bad tho
grenade launcher got nerfed hard, the damage reduction hurts so bad
CL-40 was bad in high ranked in season 1 and 2, because it couldnt compete in dps output with fcar and ak. I was a CL-40 OTP that got to plat1, yet still performed better on the rare times that I play fcar. Now in season 3, the weapon got absolutely gutted. It takes an entire 1-2 shots more to elim anything. It basically reduced the output by 30-50%.
@kuratse205 I always found a lot of consistency with it and sniped so many people. That nerf does look like it hurts tho
@@Ineednohelp It's worse than just hurting. 3v3 vs two hook heavies and 1 long ranged light. It went from me being able to solo 1v3 with good positioning, to me being unable to escape roadhog's hook and not even being able to elim any of them. Even with 4 hits to a single heavy, I couldnt elim. And this is as a plat 1 cl40 OTP vs silvers.
I legit just quit the game after that match. Uninstalled. The only weapon I liked and had fun with, is now literally unable to do anything against someone 9 ranks under me in skill.
Refreshing to watch a chill youtuber/streamer for a game I like. Good commentary
One thing I’ll throw in abt. Flamethrower/winchclaw is that, it feels underwhelming if you use winchclaw to initiate, because then they run away and you look stupid. But if you have a good medium supp (giving you heals and mobility) your goal is to get on top of them first, *then* use winch claw once they start to run away to pull them back into range (which is always enough because there’s zero downtime for when you can start flaming them again). Feels extremely cancerous against lights/mediums.
Flamethrower is also the only heavy weapon that deals consistent aoe damage. The longer a fight goes on, the better a chance you have of literally cooking the entire enemy team. It’s situational but it really does shine in those chaotic fights around the cash out where you’re either gonna die or you gonna take out the entire lobby with that healing beam just barely keeping you alive. It’s a thrill like few others.
Been waiting for this vid
30:10 when I encountered a whole team ...I just right clicked with my spear and eliminated the whole team
I’ve been using the V9S for a while now and I’m loving it. Pressing the right mouse button several times while shooting at an enemy (zooming in and out) is super meta. Pretty much locks on to the target.
when riot shielding, try putting up the shield between strikes, especially when they're using a shotgun, you can catch their rhythm with the shotgun and usually put up the shield when they shoot and hit them before the next shot
Great vid ! thanks
The V9S having such bad recoil animations is so annoying considering it's literally a hyper innovative competition pistol that specifically avoids recoil in the manner shown.
I’ve been going insane in ranked with spear, can’t believe it’s F!
Lh1 is perfect with the reduced recoil but damage should be 49 again insead of 52. It was definitely for TA. At 49 damage it would be an excellent gun and really well balanced wkth the new changes. Especially perfect accuracy while still and crouched
Last season's lh1 stats was perfect. If it only received recoil buff it would've been soo much better for me
I was a heavy sledge and goo main but the bow is so fun and the thermal bore allows some of the on the spot breaking I liked with the hammer
The ks-23 also has a one-shot combo with the winch. For lights u can hook, shoot, melee. Mediums is less consistent but u can shoot, hook, shoot, melee and heavy is shoot, shoot, hook, shoot, melee. It also one-shots late game TA because it does 100 damage
New sledge is the glow up it definetly needed this season finally i can kill a target low on Hp without it auto targeting someone beside him
If you strafe in a circle while shooting the double katanas they go down fast & you take little to no damage. The cone it deflects in is so small it's easy to strafe out of while hip firing. Been wrecking Katana boys with this.
You make me cry with how accurate this is. I'll catch you one day with my 50 damage a swing
How do u turn off hud?
When you play flamethrower you want to not only set the enemy on fire but you also want to try to melee them while they are panicking. Also use structures I never go into the open without dome shield.
The Mgl32 is GOATED in the right hands and the tight situation. I use it for the early game to pick off lights from a distance, then switch to the Flamethrower when defending or attacking a cashout station. Simple, yet effective.
The flamethrower with the whinch is soooo good
MGL should be buffed and turned into a heavy special, if it actually had impact it'd be great to pull out at the start of a fight to cause chaos
3:20 odd nitpick but I find that I land headshots (especially with spray and burst weapons) in The Finals wayyyy more than other FPS titles. I do think balancing a weapon with like headshot consistency in mind is a lil silly, but curious to see if other people have a similar experience
That your coming💀
I've already seen many people say that the lh1 is overpowered so just consider that it may be nerfed soon before trying to main it!!
Nope don’t believe the hype lh isn’t as good as you think lh was my main for s2
@@Mrm-2102 Okay? Its still extremely good this season. And with embarks track record its not unlikely to be nerfed.
@@Mrm-2102 No, it is absolutely busted. It needs a nerf ASAP, I am an AVID LH1 user in S3 atm.
It has been heavily over buffed, I went 40-0 in a quick cash game in one of my first games with it, it's the go to pick for lights atm
@@Mrm-2102Yes it is. 3rd game of the season one of my teammates went 26-1 with it 😂
I feel like hating on sword tecks like phantom strike is so petty, considering how hard they are to pull off consistently. If you have put in enough time to learn something crazy like this, then you deserve respect. Also, I've never seen someone pull it off in a real game apart from super sweaty streemers, so it's not too big of a deal 😅
Exactly, and now LH1 takes the spot and doesnt even require as much skill as the sword did
he really just seems like a melee hater ngl
Most streamers are 😭
I feel that you should take movement into account. Burst weapons or shotguns allow for movement between shots. Swords as well.
Yeah, burst weapons should have "first 2 bullets of XP-54" accuracy, and then a large kick AFTER firing that 3rd shot in the burst so there's a bit more recoil between each burst.
I was here when this channel was getting fucked by algorithm when you were playing Apex, so glad to see you flourish
I understand that for rank melee is not meta but in power shift they are and this game is mostly a casuals game most people dint even like old rank and that's the reason they are testing new mode as rank
One thing to spice up the riot shield viability might be to have it so shield comes up extremely fast so you can out skill the opponent. Still not great but might look wacky
I like how u shit talk a weapon but are popping off in the footage xD great vid!
Personally love the cloak + mp5 combo
being sick while drinking a monster is fucking wild💀
Once u learn how to bounce the gl or use it as a mortar it can be very effective. Also great for assists. Use charge and rpg when they are outside your cutout.
I was very sceptical about the Bow when I first heard about it, and it seems like I was right about it not being the best. It's a nice adition tho, ngl
swords gadget swap was removed too
I’ve been playing a ton with the famas after the buffs and I’ve been loving it so much!
With the need to keep distance against heavies running the hook, yeah the famas feels nice to get good damage on them
I feel like you need to put more time into the riot shield. I've won so many terminal attack games by chasing down mp5 lights and they can't do shit when you run at them side ways so the shield passively blocks
Love how people like to complain “heavy is OP” but yet they don’t even have an S tier weapon. Medium class is busted and is much better at offense than most light builds.
Flame thrower is not S tier?, RPG is not S tier? + These take no skill to hit
Arguing that heavy isn't busted is clown behavior. I suck at this game, have barely over 1.0 K//D and Meta M60 carried me to Diamond no problem
That's crazy to say that a medium with an AR is better than 140 entry rpg 130 charge 80- 175 AOE slam after with 70 bullet LMG for what's left of that poor team
@@619jarradable the Medium’s ARs are the most consistent weapons in damage over most ranges- not only that but you mention health pools, and mediums might as well have multiple, cause a 3 stack of mediums literally run around reviving each other and out healing the damage you do. Medium is supposed to be the support class but it’s better at offense and defense than both light and heavy. Pay attention to your matches, medium is picked way more than any other class rn
Don't worry, lights will still find something to complain about. I've seen people STILL complain about the winch claw, even though heavy has laughable weapons rn.
True lmao, the Patch note literally said "No gun for you, now use Winch to punch them with melee"
And yet people still complain 🤣
Counterpoint: I clipped the first cash box of a round into the ground using spear, forcing a victory for my team after the game ended
"You're supposed to be inside the enemy team" -ottr
KS23 and winch claw together is insane. If you are fast (takes only a little bit of practice) you can shoot and quick melee a light before they get to act and combined with the 15 damage from the winch claw the combo fully kills them
Nah I still won't use KS as it's horrible both Close range and Long range
If they make it more accurate, it's probably become strong weapon but meh, even at blank point u can still miss if bullet not accurate lmao
They should replace the spear secondary fire with a spear throw. That would be hella fun
Dagger is only good if you put the time in and learn how to dash through players for the backstab. Only melee that beats me is the sledge hammer if timed right other then that dagger is on top of
Personally i found Famas as a amazing weapon for Light stacked games. You delete rats at range and also has a good enough hipfire to maul them upclose
Personally love the bow. Just made a video showcasing it and that match was so fun. Also when I use it in Terminal Attack it's very viable thus far. Since the hitbox on the arrow is basically the size of a bullet it's very hard to consistently get damage until you have a lot more experience with it. For example: You can miss when people are jumping, since your arrow can go between their legs or arms. Overall I love it and personally I'd rank it in B Tier only because it's much harder to use consistently compared to what you have in A and S tier. I don't think it's weak though. It's a weapon that can easily become OP if changed, and I think it's in a good spot.
I wish they would optimise this game to run smoother on lower gpus. I have a 3060 and I get only 80-90 fps no matter if it’s high quality or low which is very weird. Another thing I would love the devs to remove from this game is visual recoil. Weapon recoil is enough, we don’t need visual clutter. It only ruins the fun of aiming
As a console player, the spear, flamethrower/grenade launchers and model are insane. Especially the spear and grenade launchers. The fcar is crazy as usual, lol.
My controller hits headies all day
the famas has been ripping for me this season, it’s solid in most cases imo esp with a couple headshots
It’s good to see no one will use the flame thrower after that ranking, I’ll be the only flamethrower main out there
i saw you in a live match on a differnent team and it was so cool!!!!!!!!! THE OTTR in the same lobby!?!?!? lets goo!!! we knocked you out in round one btw!
What if... Remove riot shield but make dual katanas' reflection ability be toggle like the riot shields' shield
Loving the dual swords, the only time I’ve ever enjoyed a melee weapon in any game ever.
I mostly agree with this tier list EXCEPT heavy's ks-23 and flamethrower. I would swap them. Its really hard to aim with the ks and shoot damage and every shell counts
Spear might not be strong but to me it sure is a lot of fun
The flamethrower is made for multi kills in a small area
Honestly I love the bow. It's definitely not great per se but I've had some really good luck with it while playing, it just takes a lot of skill to do well with. Also I feel like melee weapons, especially on medium, need some sort of buff to make it easier to close the gap. Maybe slightly faster move speed but idk. Definitely disappointed that some of the new weapons are mid again though and would like to see that change.
i washoping for SA1216 buff, cuz it felt like light shotgun season 2 atleast for me
13:25 for light
20:49 for light/med
31:49 all classes
Thank you, cannot stand the coughing! :D
M60 is so fun this season
they nerfed the sawed off in season 1 and now after the s3 buff it's stronger than it was S1 pre-nerf which is baffling.
That's really sad that Ottr thinks the heavy's Grenade launcher is F Tier. Even though in the right hand's It's Potential S, I respect your opinion, as it is very hard to use in the hands of an unexperienced player.
I am a player who have played dual sword, I lost half of my life every time I engage a fight then the riot shield who was always a good agressif melee weapon. The riot shield can block the bullet at your left while sprinting at your target. Always attack your target anticlockwise with the riot shield, because you block bullets and attacking at the same time. The dual sword are bad and not worth it to buy, because it can’t deflect all the bullets of the Famas and you deal 50 damages with mean 3 hit for light, 5 hit for a medium and 7 hit for a heavy. The dual sword feel like the Dagger but hitting faster and can deflect bullets. I wish they will buff the dual sword to make them feel good to play (not like goat tier, but good to play).
Lights are way to over powered this season pls fix embark
I wonder how allowing people to carry multiple weapons in place of gadgets would work
flamethrower and lewis while holding shield and charging at the same time lol
@@moanejmi5192 just weapons not specializations, but I think it could flip up the meta, more mixed loadouts and variables. I just wonder if it would become the only way to play and if running three gadgets would be worth it
I think they should release weapons in an overtuned state rather than undertuned. That way things feel fresh and new with people actually using these weapons, and it gets people to try them out and learn how to use them so if they get nerfed, there will still be people that use them.
You're the best, ottr
LH1 got a buff but feels like a nerf as someone whose mained it since betas, it feels so bad to use now.
I'm still waiting for an underdog to take the king down.
No way he put sniper above sword lmfao
1887 not in S tier is a crime. it lacks range but does everything else so well. A smart shotty user can force a close range fight with FCAR or AK players and kill them quckly. 1 tap light potential and 2 tap medium potential is insane.