Finally! Whoop's MOST requested update - But, is it worth the hype?

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  • Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025

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  • @baileybullpersonal7499
    @baileybullpersonal7499 11 месяцев назад +4

    Does it track pr’s and weight increases over time n shit?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  11 месяцев назад +1

      Not yet, but I know whoop knows that that is something we want in an update

  • @josephmhines
    @josephmhines Год назад +9

    Loving the new strength trainer...mostly from a strain and recovery standpoint....nice to no longer get a 5 strain score after 3 hours of strength training...i've seen my scores nearly triple...which helps when planning sleep and recovery. Still lots of room for improvement....agree with your comments...would also love to see some velocity metrics for lifts and the ability to see the average rest times between sets and movements. Keep the content coming Brandon!

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад +1

      Glad you’re enjoying it and the content:)

  • @futuref0wl
    @futuref0wl Год назад +14

    Super excited to try this out. I'm guessing it doesn't have a plate calculator, which may ultimately limit me from using it. I primarily use Strong to track my lifts, and that the plate calculator significantly simplifies my workout.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      It doesn’t. Essentially you just add in your weights manually. There’s a lot of upside to the feature and some downsides of course, but it gets me excited for future iterations and hardware upgrades

    • @joseruiz5114
      @joseruiz5114 Год назад +2

      Strong user here too 👋🏼
      Glad I watched the video before I inputted my workouts. I am going to stay with Strong until I see some added features that I find valuable.
      At the moment, it doesn’t look like to you can input your RPE. For my compound lifts, my aim is to I train heavy enough on a set while having 2 reps left in the tank.
      The RPE feature on Strong helps me decide if I should stay with the same weight or move up.
      Until then, my strain won’t be accurate but that’s okay

  • @wrxdrunkie
    @wrxdrunkie Год назад +3

    I tried this feature yesterday and it could definitely use some polish. I noticed that in the gym when equipment is taken and I need to change the order of my work out I was accidentally starting an ending search based on the original order of my exercises and once you’ve recorded a site you can’t delete it, and so I had these sets recorded for the wrong exercise, and I simply just had to change the reps to zero but now my work out is way out of order and not accurate as a whole. So I was having add exercises I accidentally recorded on the fly again. It was a mess.
    The other thing I noticed is strength workouts don’t record to Apple health. I wonder if that’s a mistake or if that’s on purpose.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад +2

      Yeah it does. It’s awesome, but like I said, super tedious. It needs the parameters to work, but there’s inherent friction in those parameters. And even though I’ve had it for a month-ish, it’s not enough time to find every bug.

  • @johnross1020
    @johnross1020 Год назад +4

    Agree 100%. I use CBUMs app and now that means I have to input two separate sets in 2 apps. Would love to just select I’m doing a strength training workout.

  • @fridadeivizsla2729
    @fridadeivizsla2729 Год назад +2

    Thank you for this honest and realistic "review", very appreciated! I waited for months to understand if I could use whoop for my weight training.. and the answer for me is clear.. at the moment no, but it's true that It does't exist any other competitor that make this.. maybe a game changer for the next devices 2023/24.. who knows :) tnx

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад +3

      Glad you enjoyed it, and from talking to whoop, they see the current limitations, and aren’t satisfied - so I’m sure we’ll see improvements

  • @FindYourFlow
    @FindYourFlow Год назад +2

    Tested it out this morning with my workout. It was quick to add in exercises but I couldn't get Whoop to save the data - it kept crashing - and had to delete the workout. Will try again tomorrow morning!
    Thank you for showing the superset option 🤙

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад +1

      Hey RJ, I think with such a massive update and everyone trying it at the same time, there might be a few bugs and crashes along the way. It happened to me to last week and they’ve been notified. They’ve also fixed every bug I’ve found so far in testing so they have been on the ball

    • @FindYourFlow
      @FindYourFlow Год назад +1

      I'm sure it'll get sorted out quickly and keep improving.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      Hope so!

  • @bethanewright
    @bethanewright 10 месяцев назад +1

    Will it track your weights session for session to keep an eye on progressive overload?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  10 месяцев назад

      Not as of yet, but something tells me it will come in a future update

    • @bethanewright
      @bethanewright 10 месяцев назад

      @@BrandonTalbot between the sets going on and off and needing to track weights elsewhere it feels like it's just missed the mark. Especially since new hardware is rumoured to be 2025 at the LATEST

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  10 месяцев назад

      It’s cool that they added it but right now it’s too tedious to use

  • @samelder7530
    @samelder7530 Год назад +2

    Do you have to click start and stop for each set as you go - or can you do the workout and just click through all that later?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      No you have to start and stop each set. There’s pros and cons of course, like I say in the video, it gives the measurement it’s parameters and thus it’s success but it’s also tedious.

    • @samelder7530
      @samelder7530 Год назад +1

      @@BrandonTalbot I used it today for the first time. I appreciate the more accurate strain but it sure ties you to your phone a lot. In general I like to put my phone aside while lifting. So I feel torn about it.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      @@samelder7530 trust me, I’m right there with you.

  • @calebfoster6563
    @calebfoster6563 Год назад +11

    Now, they just need diet tracker/suggestions for recovery and optimal performance! Then it'd be the 1 stop shop

    • @villianaire
      @villianaire Год назад

      One stop shops tend to drop the ball somewhere. Even in companies the size of Amazon. MacroFactor is great addition to run alongside Whoop.

  • @callipaspamello5721
    @callipaspamello5721 Год назад +1

    Great Video, thanks a Lot. I recently bought the biceps strap, does the strenght trainer only support the wrist strap?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      As of right now just the wrist strap. I’m sure you could use the bicep strap but it will most likely affect your data

  • @artmzrbn
    @artmzrbn Год назад +1

    Where did you wear the Whoop during BJJ?
    thnx

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      Three locations to chose from - neoprene sleeve on bicep, the rash guard, same spot, or in the waistline of the boxers

  • @samelder7530
    @samelder7530 Год назад +2

    What sort of hardware upgrade, specifically, would make a difference, though? In other words, how can hardware allow whoop to auto-detect what sort of exercise you're doing?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      Well right now, processing speed sure could be improved. And could help with auto detection. IMO they’ve essentially maxed out what the 4.0 can do, and they need to compute more data more quickly.

    • @samelder7530
      @samelder7530 Год назад +1

      @@BrandonTalbot Got it. I was curious if you thought new kinds of sensors might be involved. Thanks for responding. Very much appreciate your content.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      @@samelder7530 for sure! There definitely could be. The FitTech industry is rapidly expanding, and I’m sure something is around the corner.

  • @JasonRaneses
    @JasonRaneses Год назад +1

    I've been using strength trainer for about a month and am a fan overall. Great note on the use of supersets, that aspect wasn't initially clear when I got going.
    One immediate gap I'd like to see Whoop address is support for bicep bands, which I tend to use for kettlebell based workouts. Another nice to have would be Strava integration, which currently isn't supported like other activities.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      Glad you enjoy it. Not sure IF or when they’ll be able to implement tracking outside of the wrist for the strength trainer. But it would be nice!

    • @JasonRaneses
      @JasonRaneses Год назад +1

      @@BrandonTalbot I figured as much, it seems hard calibrated to the wrist at this point.
      As a stopgap I’m wearing the wrist band on my forearm so it’s at least out of the way of contact.

  • @fbicking
    @fbicking Год назад +1

    Does the strength trainer work if you wear on the bicep? I can’t wear on my wrist for strength training because I wear wrist wraps.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      Not yet, desperately need it to though. I mean you could try but whoop has stated it needs to be worn on the wrist

  • @kennethcoomans
    @kennethcoomans Год назад +1

    Hi Brandon, Where/how do you wear the whoop during bjj? Wearing it on the wrist feels unsafe for both the device, myself and the people I roll with. I'd love the data from bjj but am currenlty just not using the Whoop in training...

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад +1

      Yeah I use the Whoop neoprene sleeve, the compression shirt, and compression short!

  • @phlspecial
    @phlspecial 12 дней назад +1

    Hi Brandon, great video.
    I'm currently working as a product feature intern for the Strength Trainer app at WHOOP.
    Do you see any potential use-cases for AI in the app, specifically for novice weight trainers?
    I was thinking maybe motivational coaching text/audio, reminders to start/stop sets, or feedback from questions about what each workout would accomplish, or what proper form should be.
    Let me know if you have any thoughts!

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  8 дней назад +1

      Hey amigo, I’ll hit you up on Instagram! I just saw your message :-)

  • @TruthTactical
    @TruthTactical Год назад +1

    Just got my 4.0 in the mail today and updated it. Let's goo!!!

  • @sambreen7519
    @sambreen7519 Год назад

    Should you track all your warm up sets ?

  • @mattsavage578
    @mattsavage578 Год назад +2

    For me, i wish it worked (linked) with other strength training apps like BodyFit, 1st Phorm, etc, because having to recreate your workout for everyday on an 8 week program definitely seems like it would get old fast.
    Or as you mentioned, have an auto sense feature for the strength training. If they added programs to the pre loaded workouts, i could see that becoming a huge win and definitely some good sugar for pro members.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      Yeah that’s why I’ve saved my most common workouts - but even then it is tedious.

  • @davidandersen5697
    @davidandersen5697 Год назад +1

    Great video, Does it give you a higher strain score then if you were to just add workout when finished training.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      Higher? Not sure. More accurate? Yes.

    • @davidandersen5697
      @davidandersen5697 Год назад +1

      Just did my first workout with the new strength assessment. Everything ran smoothly and the strain is much higher than just adding a weightlifting activity. If the values are accurate this is a great improvement for weightlifting. I did my own workout and it was very easy to add reps and weight, even in real time.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      @@davidandersen5697 that’s awesome. Yeah thankfully it’s quite straightforward

    • @michealhanner5413
      @michealhanner5413 Год назад +1

      Thanks for the video! Do you have to switch the whoop on the opposite wrist for bilateral exercises?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      @@michealhanner5413 nope!

  • @thomnewberg
    @thomnewberg Год назад

    2nd comment, question, on strength. I have not used it yet as I paused my membership for 3 months because of health issues, but starting back up now.
    Can you creat a workout and access the same workout in future, then compare whoop metrics between 2 of the same workouts to measure fitness improvement like RHR of if your strain is low doing the same workout.
    This is the best way to benchmark improvements.
    So not just seeing you have a better time in a workout like “Murphy”, but tracking physiologic metrics to verify you are getting in better shape. Does that make sense?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      You can save workouts you make and do them again, and then just go into your calendar to check metrics later

  • @vagabondsteve
    @vagabondsteve Год назад +2

    What would be your guess on when the whoop 5.0 possibly might come out?
    What’s your thoughts on the stress score on the Whoop 4.0? How useful is it in giving data that could help someone reduce stress and anxiety?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад +1

      Next year possibly. Q2 of 2024. That’s my guess.
      The stress score is super accurate but it really doesn’t mean much: some stress is beneficial, some isn’t. What IS valuable are the tools they give you in the stress monitor to manage that stress. Whether you want to be active or to be at peace… you can do both.

  • @thom1598
    @thom1598 Год назад

    Does it keep track of the weight improvements you make in a graph or something?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      It does not, but I’ve told them a ton of people are asking for it

  • @lalampen
    @lalampen Год назад

    Which wrist do you typically wear your whoop on? does it impact anything? I have read multiple conflicting articles about it! thanks for your help. FANTASTIC VIDEO.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад +1

      I’m not sure by what you mean by impacting? But I wear it on my right.

    • @lalampen
      @lalampen Год назад +1

      @@BrandonTalbot I have read that if you wear it on your dominant hand’s wrist, it can skew your metrics one way or the other. Again… conflicting things 🤣
      I appreciate your insights.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад +1

      I’m sure it could. I’ve worn it there for 3ish years so it’s pretty standard to me.

    • @lalampen
      @lalampen Год назад +1

      @@BrandonTalbot make sense. Kinda what I was thinking too. I am new to whoop, so just over informing myself with all the things.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      @@lalampen are you past your initial 28 days?

  • @Kwikflixx
    @Kwikflixx Год назад +1

    Any idea on when the 5.0 will release?

  • @rramnel
    @rramnel Год назад +1

    Is it possible for someone else (like a Personal Trainer) create a workout and share it with you?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      I don’t think it is but it’s a genius idea!!!!

  • @NoahCBanks
    @NoahCBanks Год назад +1

    Yoooooo! Definitely need to take the whoop back out. These new updates are game changing 🤯

  • @gabrieliface1350
    @gabrieliface1350 Год назад

    Now if I want to train with this new trainer, do I have to start using the classic hand measurement again? Too bad, I used to train only with shorts directly from whoop...

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      I’m not sure what you’re asking sorry

    • @gabrieliface1350
      @gabrieliface1350 Год назад

      @@BrandonTalbot sorry bad english.
      This new training not works with byceps strap or shorts

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      @@gabrieliface1350 not yet. It has to measure from the end range of motion through The lever. It’s a physics problem, but perhaps with time it will build a profile on you and no longer need to.

    • @gabrieliface1350
      @gabrieliface1350 Год назад +1

      @@BrandonTalbot thank you Brandon

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      @@gabrieliface1350 for sure!

  • @MichielvdHeuvel1913
    @MichielvdHeuvel1913 Год назад +2

    Awesome video man! Do you know if the strength builder works just as well if you're wearing the bicep band? And what is your general opinion on the bicep band? Excited for more video's!

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      Stoked you enjoyed it Michael. Right now the strength builder/trainer. Whatever they’re calling it, has very specific parameters and one of those parameters is the location of the Whoop itself and right now It is strictly for the wrist and I don’t see that changing. I’m assuming it has to do with how it works with the accelerometer, and it needs to be at the furthest most point of the lever i.e. your arm.

  • @BigBeauBrown
    @BigBeauBrown Год назад +1

    Used it for the first time today... Definitely the last haha it was more work than the workout😅

  • @vagabondsteve
    @vagabondsteve Год назад +3

    Even though you have an affiliation with Whoop, I appreciate that you still give constructive feedback. Great video Brandon, thank you. Which iOS gym workout apps would you recommend that have the least amount of friction & ease of use?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      My absolute favorite workout app is the Juggernaut BJJ app. I know it has BJJ in the name but anyone could and SHOULD use it. It’s the closest thing to a personal trainer I’ve ever seen in an app and super easy to use. Oh and stoked for the feedback:)

    • @vagabondsteve
      @vagabondsteve Год назад +1

      @@BrandonTalbot Thank you so much for your replies. Juggernaut looks good, but is too expensive. Any other affordable workout gym apps that you would recommend? Do you have a top 3?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      @@vagabondsteve I do have a discount code for it in my review video just FYI but Nike’s NTC app I really liked and the guy in charge of the programming is as legit as they come. The Athlytic App is a good alternative to whoop obviously it
      Can’t do what whoop can but it’s a 12th the cost. Let me see what else I’ve used in the past

  • @gabesmith6271
    @gabesmith6271 Год назад

    Agreed! I like it but it’s tedious

  • @waynesmith4589
    @waynesmith4589 Год назад

    It’s the IMPACT of the strength training I’m interested in not how many reps I’ve done, I will often get a very high recovery 80% + following a squat session but could hardly walk up the stairs let alone do a hard bike session which is what my recovery is suggesting I can do. This is obviously not going to happen ! are the strength sessions incorporated into the recovery score ? otherwise we’re no further forward.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      Great question: Yea the score you get from a strength score is integrated into your strain score. But how? I don’t know and I’ve reached out to whoop to explain how since their hardware hasn’t changed with this update.

  • @matthewsargent2415
    @matthewsargent2415 Год назад

    A great feature, I'm happy to see it added. I've been using it on every training day (4 days a week) since it came out, and what I have observed is that the muscular load seems to be calculated based on total tonnage of weight moved for the workout. I should add that I am currently prepping for a Powerlifting meet, so my workouts include a considerable amount of total weight moved. The issue I have is that my strain scores are out of control high due to some of these workouts, and I'm just not sure it's an accurate representation of my actual muscular strain. I love the intensity feature, frankly understanding velocity during powerlifting movements would be an amazing feature, what they currently have may be the building blocks to something like that. Overall, I'm hoping that they can improve the formula and use move of our actual metrics from the training to determine strain, rather than just using what we input for weight and reps.

  • @davidkaplan5517
    @davidkaplan5517 Год назад

    The problem with auto detect and the things you’re bringing up as shortcomings-the wrist is a really bad place for this sensor to live from a science perspective. It’s super convenient to wear but it’s not where the data is most at home to be measured. For whoop 5.0 I also want many more metrics than just HRV, RR, and RHR. I want more intricate measurements that really give an idea to what’s going on inside me.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад +1

      It is, and even with the ability to wear it somewhere else, for the strength training feature you have to wear it there unfortunately.

  • @thomnewberg
    @thomnewberg Год назад

    Off topic, but when is whoop going to allow customizable journals. Who cares if you sleep w a cat. In fact a lot of the journal options are not worth tracking anyway because if you do “said item”, like married, sleep w cat, or tons of others, if you do that item all the time for over 90 days, you lose the benefit of whoop letting you now if it is making a difference.
    I am a former body builder and engineer so tracking things are what I like to do.
    For nutrition I would love to track specific foods like peanut butter, almond butter, mash potatoes v sweet potatoes, etc to see how my recover changes if I cycle these items as a test.
    Same with supplements. They have some, but maybe I want to compare 3-4 different name brand sleep supplements: Beam, sleep remedy, etc. and I want to use each for let’s say 34-5 days on , 4-5 days off, then change brands. Each month whoop should be able to let me know which one was most effective on REM or Deep sleep.
    Heck they can probably get different manufacturers to pay them to allow their products on the journal.
    Hope this makes sense. What I have done is to change the name of existing useless journal entries to mean something else. “Sleeps w cat” might be takes beam sleep drink.
    Although this method works it takes a lot of work to keep up with what means what.

  • @amarindersingh1884
    @amarindersingh1884 Год назад +2

    Hit the nail on the head, without auto detect, this is useless.

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад

      I hope Whoop hears our concerns and needs and we’re able to get this in an update

    • @argosbrave6415
      @argosbrave6415 Год назад

      They may need the feature to be used more first. They could train an AI model to do auto detection on their own sure, but they may just not have enough data yet for just a gyroscope on the wrist to figure out what the whole body is doing. Just thinking out loud here

  • @elgindrful
    @elgindrful Год назад +1

    Ok NO BUY YET!!!

  • @adammcc
    @adammcc Год назад +1

    March 15th 2024 whoop 5.0

  • @Moshe5573
    @Moshe5573 10 месяцев назад

    Whoop was a waste if money. The band maybe worth $2

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  10 месяцев назад

      For you, sure. And many others, But there are quite literally thousands of people who love it and don’t consider it a waste:

  • @thom1598
    @thom1598 Год назад +3

    Does it keep track of the weight improvements you make in a graph or something?

    • @BrandonTalbot
      @BrandonTalbot  Год назад +2

      Not at this time, not sure if whoop would do that given what’s important to them, but would be a super cool feature!

    • @glassmw9823
      @glassmw9823 11 месяцев назад

      This would be pretty great! Would show you your strength improvements over time, as well as maybe a lower HR/higher physical efficiency for the same or higher weight