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Which would you recommend more between the S1000XR and F850GS Adv as i am torn in between these two models and not sure which to get as I plan on doing touring and maybe a little bit of offroad only one in a awhile
@@dumplingz7 i think that it's not the same category buddy. The right question should be F900XR or F850 GS...and to my opinion the answer should be given by yourself. F900 is a more practicall everyday commuter which is perfect for city usage as well for trips, touring but don't love the dirt so much as the F850 which is more "off-road", oriented. So, both bikes are fine but the right one for you is the one that will cover better your needs. What exactly you want to do with the bike?
These roads look incredible! I have a 2016 XR and love it. Absolutely zero complaints other than the handle bar vibration, but it goes away above 90mph😅
Great review, as always, and LOVED that road! Trans-what? Need to put it on my bucket list. After years owning S1000RRs, and using them for club racing, track days and (very) irresponsible/illegal street/mountain riding, I decided it was time to grow up and go back to a sensible bike. So, having owned GS bikes before, and rented many while traveling, I bought a 2019 R1250GS. Great bike... but. After many S1000RR years, the excitement is just not there. So, now that the XR is coming out in Motorsport colors... I think I'll trade the GS in. Sure, I'll lose the "off-road" ability, but ok. I've taken the big cow through some enduro trails during the past year, and of course she's quite capable, but it's just suffering. If I want to go dirt biking I'll buy a 450/500 dual sports. In the meantime, will wait for the XR to come out in the colors I love, and go back to lubing chains, I guess. Seems like it's a grownup RR.
I liked the review. I own 2018 XR HP modified, with Akrapovich slip on. TBH, I like my 2018 much more than 2020 XR. It's more sporty, more aggressive and the sound of the exhaust is much much better. I don't see any improvement in the 2020 model actually quite the opposite :)
Awesome bike... But the video you guys made is amazing.... Awesome... Beautiful cinematic shots.... The music, editing.. Everything is wonderful... Well done guys... 👍👍 Keep it up... 👌
BMW likes to position themselves as premium/luxury brand. BMW is also huge on safety. Today in a world of tech and cell phone distracted automobile drivers, BMW misses opportunities to improve safety. For starters this bike needs an electric windscreen, so you don’t have to stop, get off the bike and adjust. A horn that sounds like a horn. Take the same horns used on the K1600 series bikes (120 decibel horns). Lastly, illuminated handlebar switches for night riding. Even the Triumph Tiger 1200 ADV bikes have this stuff. Come on BMW! Otherwise a great looking and handling bike. That they seem to understand. I prefer the looks of the BMW. Great review. Ride safe and ride often. Peace.
Disappointed to see that BMW hasn’t gone to a hydraulic clutch yet on the XR. When I was deciding between the R1200 GS and the XR, that was the deciding factor. The clutch on the XR was very stiff and would be very painful to operate in stop and go traffic(arthritis in left hand).
Unfortunately I ride in a lot of stop and go traffic which requires using the clutch quite a bit, and if it weren’t for my clutch hand, it wouldn’t be an issue. Having a hydraulic clutch on the XR would most of likely made me choose the XR over the GS.
It's definitely a sporty tourer. But it doesn't Look like a sport-touring mc, as it has that upright adventure style seating position. Same as the Tracer 900. It's called a Sport-tourer, but i can't say i quite agree with that. They're more a Sport-Adventurer really. Nice video though.
The seating position is much sportier than the Tracer or even the old Xr, you have to try it to feel it. You are more active and feel the front wheel much better.
I love you guys. Bike is sweet I can see me on one. My 01 Triumph Sprint ST has been amazing 106,000 miles. Hard to beat that kind of reliability. This could be the replacement I'm looking for...
Wonderful video and awesome bike.. the first one I see with HP forged wheels and carbon parts, instead of Akrapovic exhaust and other "boring usual" stuff... I've ordered the s1000xr, the same optionals as yours, one month ago, and will arrive at the end of August... I can't stand it anymore!!! So excited!
So 2021 has Metzler tires I noticed Bridgestone on the bike you have. Also, BMW has not been very interesting with muffler designs and after a brief departure from Akropovic they once again include it. I believe there is a fan on the left side of the bike which can be a bit much on a summer day in the city.
First of all, thank you very much for making our life happy with yours reviews. Could you proceed with review for 2020 Kawasaki Ninja Z 1000 SX, please. Thanks in advance.
Great and honest review as usual. I had the same delema..Should i go got the new XR or for the 1250 GSA? Finally i bought the 1250 GSA. I am very happy with my purchase, however sometimes i still have to ask myself if that was the right choice. So far considering the i am using the bike for bigger tours i think i did good but if i could afford a second big bike i should def go for it.
Hi! Hands down which bike did u enjoy the most..? Tuono 1100 v4 factory 2020 or bmw s1000xr 2020!! Congrats for the really nice videos! Nice job! Keep up the good work!
Great video .. amazing machine ... I want to try ASAP .. definitely could be my second bike hahaha... BTW question : Which boots are you wearing looks very confortables a also very nice !!
Hi guys. Good review. I rode the Ducati 1260s (twin) back to back with the s1000xr (in line4). I did not like the seat or the plastic feel of the BMW. I think the Ducati is better finished. I have only ever ridden BMW, with the exception of this year - Tuono. Keep up the excellent reviews. Well done. J
Wieder eine Super-Vorstellung! Ich habe auch ein XR, nur beherrsche ich sie nicht so genial. Another super-performance. I also have a XR, but I don't have such a great command of it.
@@shoei07 no, nice for your reply, I did get the Ktm 1290 Super adventure S... Iam still more of adventure rider, and the price was also 4 to 5 tousand euros lower.
Great review as always. 1 thing- if the BMW provides a wireless/wired charger in the tank pocket, won't it be a problem on bad roads when your phone gets tossed around in the compartment?
there is no charger in the tank pocket. there's a mini charger in the front left fairing. i would be surprised if most modern phones could even fit in the tank compartment, its really designed for your keys.
Nice video! If you have to choose an “all around” motorbike (for urban daily commuting, travels and amusement in twistes ) which one do you prefer between XR and R 1250 GS standard?
As the owner of a 2020 BMW 1250rs, in my opinion the rs has way better road manners for the long haul. I literally can ride it all day no problem. Try both back to back and see what I mean.
For a dedicated tourer, I'd buy a GS. I was in the market for a do it all bike, so I bought a Gen I XR. Ride is probably plusher on this with the update, when you want it, but the old one does not have touring oriented suspension, and the ESA can not compensate. Also the rear is under-damped, first thing that you notice in Road. I understand that this is quite similar in this regard, but haven't had the chance to test it. Also you mentioned the 1260 Multistrada. That bike has better "real world" electronic suspension than the Gen I XR, probably better than this as well. Suspension-wise, only place I would take the XR instead of the current Multistrada is on a track day and maybe on freshly paved roads :)
The new one is slightly better in every single way, except in the electronic/Bluetooth where the new is is hugely better. The cumulative effect of the differences is pretty big. Whether it is worth it depends upon what you like and how much money you have.
it is not sport touring, it is sport enduro man, just like vfr 700 crossrunner. definetly it is on my next list after vfr. it will be either xr or, gtl.
You know I rode the 2018 s1000xr from Motorrad here in South Africa its a very good bike very comfortable extremely powerful! However I'm not sure if it's worth the R273000 they asking in Sa or $22k elsewhere... Why not just buy a 1000r naked add a screen be just as fast and comfortable so ya biking is expensive 🏁
Stick a Yamaha or a Kawasaki badge on it and they wouldn't look out of place. If you can't beat em, join em. Where's the shaft drive, it's a BMW? I'm glad to see it comes with a centre stand. I could live with the exhaust pipe. No doubt Akrapovik will fix that.
Hmmmmm..no. If you can afford the Premium bikes then it's really not in the same comparison. As a '20 XR owner i would say wait for a used one, buying new the value really drops when you`re forced into so many packages (here in Canada)
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Which would you recommend more between the S1000XR and F850GS Adv as i am torn in between these two models and not sure which to get as I plan on doing touring and maybe a little bit of offroad only one in a awhile
@@dumplingz7 i think that it's not the same category buddy. The right question should be F900XR or F850 GS...and to my opinion the answer should be given by yourself. F900 is a more practicall everyday commuter which is perfect for city usage as well for trips, touring but don't love the dirt so much as the F850 which is more "off-road", oriented. So, both bikes are fine but the right one for you is the one that will cover better your needs. What exactly you want to do with the bike?
How is the engine refinement and seat comfort of the BMW S1000XR compared to Kawasaki Ninja 1000 ZX??
Your reviews are the best I've come across online and there are plenty of good ones out there. Please keep up the excellent work.
As a '20 XR owner i would say your review was spot on. The heat in traffic is not a joke, boots are definitely required.
More important is always keep an extensive warranty on it ---ex 18 XR owner
@@DavidMartin-ru5zt thats what they say, we shall see!
Great review. Thank you for talking about the heat. Reviewers should discuss this with every motorcycle they review. I know you almost always do.
Try honda fjr 1300 in town you balls will be on 60-70c you not need condom on ride day. -)
DMR is the best motorcycle video channel, congrats boys 👍
Hands down! This channel makes much better and enjoyable reviews than the top dog reviewers!
Appreciate that
Perfect place. Perfect music. Perfect bike. Perfect review .Bravo !!!!!!!
What music is it
@@naborini I do not know I could not find it on the internet. but I like it very much
These roads look incredible!
I have a 2016 XR and love it. Absolutely zero complaints other than the handle bar vibration, but it goes away above 90mph😅
You feel the engine heat a lot less with leathers on. Jeans just let it get to you easier.
Such a nice review and amazing scenery guys! Thanks!
Great review, as always, and LOVED that road! Trans-what? Need to put it on my bucket list. After years owning S1000RRs, and using them for club racing, track days and (very) irresponsible/illegal street/mountain riding, I decided it was time to grow up and go back to a sensible bike. So, having owned GS bikes before, and rented many while traveling, I bought a 2019 R1250GS. Great bike... but. After many S1000RR years, the excitement is just not there. So, now that the XR is coming out in Motorsport colors... I think I'll trade the GS in. Sure, I'll lose the "off-road" ability, but ok. I've taken the big cow through some enduro trails during the past year, and of course she's quite capable, but it's just suffering. If I want to go dirt biking I'll buy a 450/500 dual sports. In the meantime, will wait for the XR to come out in the colors I love, and go back to lubing chains, I guess. Seems like it's a grownup RR.
I liked the review. I own 2018 XR HP modified, with Akrapovich slip on. TBH, I like my 2018 much more than 2020 XR. It's more sporty, more aggressive and the sound of the exhaust is much much better. I don't see any improvement in the 2020 model actually quite the opposite :)
Most perfect and beautiful review i have ever seen
Wow, thank you!
"BMW S100XR 2020, it's more than acceptable." LoL..
Great review on this bike. Very honest comments on pros and cons of bike!
Awesome bike... But the video you guys made is amazing.... Awesome... Beautiful cinematic shots.... The music, editing.. Everything is wonderful... Well done guys... 👍👍 Keep it up... 👌
Thanks a ton
I also rode this a couple weeks back, it's not very touring, it is very sports.
BMW likes to position themselves as premium/luxury brand. BMW is also huge on safety. Today in a world of tech and cell phone distracted automobile drivers, BMW misses opportunities to improve safety. For starters this bike needs an electric windscreen, so you don’t have to stop, get off the bike and adjust. A horn that sounds like a horn. Take the same horns used on the K1600 series bikes (120 decibel horns). Lastly, illuminated handlebar switches for night riding. Even the Triumph Tiger 1200 ADV bikes have this stuff. Come on BMW! Otherwise a great looking and handling bike. That they seem to understand. I prefer the looks of the BMW. Great review. Ride safe and ride often. Peace.
Each video is better than the last. Keep up the good work.
One of the best reviews of this bike I've seen. Well done! Just need to start saving now :)
Disappointed to see that BMW hasn’t gone to a hydraulic clutch yet on the XR. When I was deciding between the R1200 GS and the XR, that was the deciding factor. The clutch on the XR was very stiff and would be very painful to operate in stop and go traffic(arthritis in left hand).
I own an xr, I never use clucth - on a rare occasion at stop, because of up-down quickshifter - that point is mute.
Unfortunately I ride in a lot of stop and go traffic which requires using the clutch quite a bit, and if it weren’t for my clutch hand, it wouldn’t be an issue. Having a hydraulic clutch on the XR would most of likely made me choose the XR over the GS.
@@bobvandick2546 fair point, at this price you would think so...oh well. i still love it!
@@xorogue amen.
It's definitely a sporty tourer. But it doesn't Look like a sport-touring mc, as it has that upright adventure style seating position. Same as the Tracer 900. It's called a Sport-tourer, but i can't say i quite agree with that. They're more a Sport-Adventurer really. Nice video though.
The seating position is much sportier than the Tracer or even the old Xr, you have to try it to feel it. You are more active and feel the front wheel much better.
where is the video shot ????.....awesome review guys as always
Romania, Carpathian Mountains
When are you guys going to review the new tiger 900
Best regards from texas ,love your video's.
Next week :)
Beautiful video of that amazing bike amid that glorious scenery. What a spot to test a bike! ✊🏼✊🏾
I love you guys. Bike is sweet I can see me on one. My 01 Triumph Sprint ST has been amazing 106,000 miles. Hard to beat that kind of reliability. This could be the replacement I'm looking for...
BMW should release the M1000XR soon to get the same reception as the 1st gen XRs. With the current XR there is no WOW factor!
Wonderful video and awesome bike.. the first one I see with HP forged wheels and carbon parts, instead of Akrapovic exhaust and other "boring usual" stuff... I've ordered the s1000xr, the same optionals as yours, one month ago, and will arrive at the end of August... I can't stand it anymore!!! So excited!
So what about KTM GT?
So 2021 has Metzler tires I noticed Bridgestone on the bike you have. Also, BMW has not been very interesting with muffler designs and after a brief departure from Akropovic they once again include it. I believe there is a fan on the left side of the bike which can be a bit much on a summer day in the city.
Very nice video👍 I can hardly wait until I go to the Carpathians, Greetings from Germany!
First of all, thank you very much for making our life happy with yours reviews. Could you proceed with review for 2020 Kawasaki Ninja Z 1000 SX, please. Thanks in advance.
You forgot the KTM 1290 Super Duke GT mate!
When you talk about the heat generated by the motor in the city, do you mean stop and go traffic? Or just driving at non-touring speeds?
Nice evolution of this bike; no Shift-Cam might be a blessing as there is less complexity in the power train. What was typical fuel economy?
Hello
During the initial break in period (riding under 7k rpm) i got 6,5L/100km
I have one request to do a review of Kawasaki Ninja z1000sx sports tourer review and comparison with other sport tourers e.g. S1000XR
Been waiting for this review since the unboxing. Nice one!
Great and honest review as usual. I had the same delema..Should i go got the new XR or for the 1250 GSA? Finally i bought the 1250 GSA. I am very happy with my purchase, however sometimes i still have to ask myself if that was the right choice. So far considering the i am using the bike for bigger tours i think i did good but if i could afford a second big bike i should def go for it.
5.6 height rider can ride this bike?
Excelent review !!
Is the engine heat in the 2020 model higher or lower than in the 2019 model?
Hi! Hands down which bike did u enjoy the most..? Tuono 1100 v4 factory 2020 or bmw s1000xr 2020!! Congrats for the really nice videos! Nice job! Keep up the good work!
My favorite bike reviews channel at the moment. Can I download HD photos of this bikes? In love with this bike
Big fans guys, loads and loads of love from the entire riding community of India. Great review 👍👌👌
Nice review but man wow that road is super amazing!
may I know where is that road ??
Your review is the best one. Keep it up bro
I am from India I love your review
When you mentioned it's rivals I think you for got the ktm superduke gt
Great review! I used to own an s1000r and there was a lot of engine heat in city driving, not too bad when on longer rides.
Great video .. amazing machine ... I want to try ASAP .. definitely could be my second bike hahaha... BTW question : Which boots are you wearing looks very confortables a also very nice !!
Sir , review on s1000xr v/smultistrada grand tour
We'll try to get a multistrada.
Hi guys. Good review. I rode the Ducati 1260s (twin) back to back with the s1000xr (in line4). I did not like the seat or the plastic feel of the BMW. I think the Ducati is better finished. I have only ever ridden BMW, with the exception of this year - Tuono. Keep up the excellent reviews. Well done. J
Thanks for sharing!
Wieder eine Super-Vorstellung! Ich habe auch ein XR, nur beherrsche ich sie nicht so genial.
Another super-performance. I also have a XR, but I don't have such a great command of it.
I think this is a bike for me. It has it all, comfort, power, wind protection. I think I might trade my Vstrom 1000 XT for BMW for the 2021 season.
Did you get a bmw?
@@shoei07 no, nice for your reply, I did get the Ktm 1290 Super adventure S... Iam still more of adventure rider, and the price was also 4 to 5 tousand euros lower.
yeah! Transfagarasan :) I was riding there a week ago! Beautiful place! thanks for the video!
Great review 👌 helpful information
Nice review! I was waiting to see castles or whatever and then I see the Hoover Dam!
That it's not the Hoover Dam man, that is the Arges Dam in Romania at the end of Transfagarasean Road you've seen in the video....lololol
@@lukagenovese ok then show me a dang castle. Sure looked like the Hoover Dam in that one shot. My bad.
Hello all
Please. Where is that road?
Transfăgărășan
Excellent review, very well done!
Great review, what is the location of that lovely road you’re on?
It's the Transfagarasan Road. Thanks.
Hope you can put out the track test video. Be interesting to see
SO MANY BUGS! HAHAHA. Great video as always!
😅…and he never complained about them once!
Do you know, how is the bike as compared to the 2022 version?
Where are the carbon fairings available??
i love those shoes
what model is it ?
regarding the heat i'm starting to think the solution is an Energica for hot days and a Ducati V4 for cold days. now i just need to win the lottery.
DriveMag Riders always punching above their weight
How tall is the tester? He seems to flat foot quite nicely?
please broth... make a comparison versys1000 vs s1000xr 🙏
Drivemag can you link any website to purchase the OEM front turn signals? we don't get the LED in NA :(
Can you compair this bike with the ninja 1000 sx?
Pe cad un “adventure” prin Africa, precum cele din Siberia sau Patagonia?
Excellent review
wirklich ein tolles Bike ab 2020 👍
What riding jeans are you wearing?
Great review as always.
1 thing- if the BMW provides a wireless/wired charger in the tank pocket, won't it be a problem on bad roads when your phone gets tossed around in the compartment?
there is no charger in the tank pocket. there's a mini charger in the front left fairing. i would be surprised if most modern phones could even fit in the tank compartment, its really designed for your keys.
Nice video! If you have to choose an “all around” motorbike (for urban daily commuting, travels and amusement in twistes ) which one do you prefer between XR and R 1250 GS standard?
GS :D
DriveMag Riders I do agree! me too 😉👍🏻
As the owner of a 2020 BMW 1250rs, in my opinion the rs has way better road manners for the long haul. I literally can ride it all day no problem. Try both back to back and see what I mean.
For a dedicated tourer, I'd buy a GS.
I was in the market for a do it all bike, so I bought a Gen I XR.
Ride is probably plusher on this with the update, when you want it, but the old one does not have touring oriented suspension, and the ESA can not compensate. Also the rear is under-damped, first thing that you notice in Road. I understand that this is quite similar in this regard, but haven't had the chance to test it.
Also you mentioned the 1260 Multistrada. That bike has better "real world" electronic suspension than the Gen I XR, probably better than this as well. Suspension-wise, only place I would take the XR instead of the current Multistrada is on a track day and maybe on freshly paved roads :)
Sorry, this bike is a superbike that thinks it's a tourer. I was having zero issues playing corner tag with 19+ RR's on the street.
The roads there are epic! 🤝🏼,🏁👌
Bro, why didn't you show that storage pocket
What's the story with them flies all over the place ? 😂 Great review !!
No idea. Probably because of the heated engine and high altitude.
What jacket is he wearing?
Question , is it worth to upgrade from the gen 1 full specs to the new 2020 XR? anyway what is the shoes that you are wearing ?
The new one is slightly better in every single way, except in the electronic/Bluetooth where the new is is hugely better. The cumulative effect of the differences is pretty big. Whether it is worth it depends upon what you like and how much money you have.
Beautiful place beautiful bike 👍
Men... Excelent vídeo!!!!!!! 😍😍😍 I love this bike... This si a "superbike Conford"
Where is this road?
He says Transfiguration Road
Transfagarasan - Romania
Transylvania, Romania
Is the saddle adjustable to a bit lower like Tracer 900?
there is a low seat option
I wish they would make an R 1250 XR...
Fastest tourer bike🔥🏍️
Wonderfull bike.
Nice Road Review... 👍😎😷
I rode Triumph all my life now I ride BMW.
it is not sport touring, it is sport enduro man, just like vfr 700 crossrunner. definetly it is on my next list after vfr. it will be either xr or, gtl.
Waiting for V4 multistrada to outperform s1000xr.
What a Road!
BMW has a winner here.Would love to own this one.Thks.
You know I rode the 2018 s1000xr from Motorrad here in South Africa its a very good bike very comfortable extremely powerful! However I'm not sure if it's worth the R273000 they asking in Sa or $22k elsewhere... Why not just buy a 1000r naked add a screen be just as fast and comfortable so ya biking is expensive 🏁
a naked with a screen doesnt compare to this tho.the price is outrageous but only multi compares to it and is similar in price so...
s1kr is certainly not as comfortable as an s1kxr, not a chance.
This is the first time I have heard anyone say a single positive thing about the seat.
Stick a Yamaha or a Kawasaki badge on it and they wouldn't look out of place. If you can't beat em, join em. Where's the shaft drive, it's a BMW? I'm glad to see it comes with a centre stand. I could live with the exhaust pipe. No doubt Akrapovik will fix that.
If you are struggling to choose which one is the best bike, Multistrada 1260s or BMW s1000xr, the solution is simple. Buy Tracer900GT.
Hmmmmm..no. If you can afford the Premium bikes then it's really not in the same comparison. As a '20 XR owner i would say wait for a used one, buying new the value really drops when you`re forced into so many packages (here in Canada)