Being a control freak is no reason to be murdered. What did the kids do to him to get murdered and dropped into oil tanks ? I hope he gets his karma in prison .
@@k5camille982by calling her that, he is saying exactly that! Not to mention his vile mother. She has said, “we know what she was like!”, referring to Shanann. It’s clear that she feels he was justified killing his wife. These people are pure evil.
Agreed, my wife is a text book narcissist but I made a commitment to my children so I endure. It never would BUT IF things got to that level I would never harm a hair on my children's head!!!! Edit: I make this statement based on his "she was controlling" line he's using now.
She took control of for sure , and everyone was being kicked out of their house in just a few days , loosing everything because shanann wasn’t paying bills it all went to herself, what a waste of time and energy she was , she was at home and yet put the kids in daycare and the cost was $500.00 a week they couldn’t afford,, she was not a mother , she was a leech, not only to Cris , but the parents that stayed with them was made to live in basement and she drained them every single penny they had , and first husband same, she was good at bankruptcy one with first husband , two bankruptcy while with Cris, she was a freak, no doubt she was,
No they did not deserve that. Do a deep dive on Shannan. She was no prize. Should have just gotten a divorce however even then, she would still have continued to abuse those kids. Can anyone say “Münchausen” ? It’s just a horrible, senseless, avoidable tragedy.
@@JackieOlanternWhat do you mean by avoidable? Do you mean if she just improved herself she wouldn't have gotten herself and her family murdered and that Chris Watts is the true victim here?
Not saying it's a reason........... but out of his mouth....... he said..... he just took it out on everybody...... bcus that's how mad he was at Shannan
You know what you do with control freaks?! Divorce them!! You don’t kill them! What did the children do? They didn’t deserve their fate. Neither did Shannan. Divorce would have been easier.
He was perfectly happy w Shannan in the driver's seat of their rel'ship ... until NK started eyeing him off & whispering new ideas in his ear ... then he thought he wanted her. Couldn't see she controlled him too, but via emotional blackmail.
Or, y’know, especially if you are a few years older than the control freak, you can act like the mature one and sit them down and start some loving but honest discussion of the control-freakery and delusional finances - the underweight of the children, the waste-of-space McMansion, the fact that you literally have more baby clothes for two toddlers than the inventory of an entire babywear store. Oh, and the pyramid scheme, the thousands of dollars of unsellable “product”, the money-hole of endless sales “courses” and “conferences” and your 401k being raided, all despite being a good earner and a modest spender yourself. But hey, he had a lookalike without any of that, so…
CW will never tell the whole truth about the why or how and I’m not sure why we even bother to listen anymore. Shan’ann, Bella, Celeste, and Nico deserved the chance to live full lives, and I hope they are able to rest peacefully.
A narcissist liar never wants to be honest or tell the truth to the world instead he or she prefers to lie and fabricated stories And all Chris has done is lie and drag Shanna's named in the mud
Yes, Chris's mother was a torn in the marriage from the beginning, she should have kept her nose out of their marriage. Cindy Watts was the mother in law from hell. Chris was a weak wimp that couldn't say sh*t if he had a mouth full. Ronnie Watts was just like Chris, a weak man that Cindy also treated him just like little boy Chris. A mentally sick family from years ago and sadly end up with this tragedy. Listening to Cindy and Ronnie Watts praising him in the courtroom before sentencing was really sickening.
@@Faizasmith-pj4dz Shannan didn't get along with her own parents either, she made them sleep in the basement when they had a guestroom and she even made them pay her, her mother packed her bags grabbed her husband and left.
@@indonemesis1020I'm pretty sure that Mary meant that unlike Shannon the mistress wasn't a mother and didn't have to be a "control freak" to handle everyday life! He obviously didn't help out enough, if she had to resort to manage her husband aswell...
@@indonemesis1020That wasn’t the point of Mary’s comment. The mistress was more appealing to Chris because it was a more carefree existence with her because she didn’t have the same lifestyle. There was no juggling of a job and raising children with NK, she didn’t have a family and all that goes with it.
Right away when you say something like that its like your condoning the murder .....stop ...it's just to show the problems there were ..maybe it can help others
"She was a control freak" are another way of saying she tried to push him to take responsibility as a father and husband, while not seeing his wife as a mum. She probably 'nagged' him to man up and take responsibilities for his family .
Well the reason Cris is not being forgotten is people are making to much money on the social media, at the expense of the victims,, hope these people are proud of themselves, making money off the deceased, ,, My opinion they should be ashamed of themselves,
He keeps getting himself in the news cause if he don’t he will soon be forgotten and once that happens , he’s gonna get killed in prison,bottom line..they won’t make a move on a high profile prisoner cause it causes disruption in the prison system up to the warden …. Once he is out of interviews and forgotten , he’s going watch.
@@Row2nd in this case because the MAN is a murderer. He murdered his wife , his unborn child and his two daughters. So tell me, not even thinking about Shannan right now, what did a 3 year old and a 4 year old possible do that justified their father smothering them to death and cramming their bodies through an 8 inch hole into an oil drum?
If you marry a “control freak,” and it bothers you, get a divorce. Don’t murder your spouse and innocent kids! Zero excuse for his behavior. If you think what he did was ok,…. Get help, you are empathizing with a murderer, you also have problems.
I hope she’s actually investigated, I have seen several documentaries presenting convincing alleged evidence of her involvement in the murders and or/cover up. I believe them. Hopefully, a thorough investigation is done and she will see justice.
I saw a video here some time ago someone close to her “allegedly “ per video was said that she changed her name to queen or something like that and that she in fact had a child by Chris but she moved far like Alaska or somewhere around that area up north and that she was having a lot of anxiety,suicidal etc because she couldn’t handle the pressure of all of this aftermath. Is this true ? Only god knows , but the video went super viral . If I find it I’ll try to link it
Were his kids control freaks, too? His unborn child who he helped create? Pretty sure his girlfriend did help him with his decision. Once again, a person who thinks he can go back and erase part of his life with no consequences.
Cris was the caregiver of his girls , shanann neglected them , she wouldn’t even put that damn phone down long enough to feed and give them water to drink ,cece was so thirsty that she drank water from the toilet, , he done everything for the girls , worked his ass off to take care of the family and shanann blew every single dollar on that MLM bullshit, plane trips , motels , $30.000 of that thrive crap setting in the basement collecting dust that she couldn’t sell , and never paying payments to keep a roof over their heads, they were loosing everything and had to be out of that house in 11days from the day of the murders, and yes Cris should have waited until she had that baby and divorced her, from all those videos she made neglecting the kids I’m sure Cris could have gotten custody of them, Cris and kids lived like prisoners with shanann and her the prison warden, he probably feels more free where he’s at than with shanann, he just traded one prison for another prison, at least he’s not having a camera shoved into his face all the time , shanann was out for herself and no one else, she used every single one of the family , until they were as poor as the people who lived back in the depression days , in her life she was responsible for three bankruptcy, one with first husband ,two bankruptcy while with Cris, embezzled money to buy her first house while screwing the one she embezzled, she was terminated, and the bank took that house, she definitely was no angel , she was selfish and treated everyone horrible,
unfortunately, I've never believed his story. I think the girls were the first to be lost, I think that was the hit by the dogs in the basement, He pretended to make up w his wife to get her defenses down, then she was lost. What no one has ever really mentioned is that the shallow grave was undoubtfully temporary. He had plans of putting them all in the tanks, but he never had the chance because attention was brought before he could finish his "workday" and go home to clean things up.
We kinda figured Shannan was a hand full & him being a passive guy, suppressing everything was not a perfect fit. But you know what..that’s WHY you get a DIVORCE! Not murder. You wiped out your whole family but using your bare hands. That is so vile & wicked smh.
His wife was controlling and was overspending money, he was miserable with her, met a woman he found happiness with, filed for divorce…. You see how different this story would be if he decide to end this marriage like a normal person??? You may hate your spouse but that’s not a reason to kill whole family
Chris Watts makes me sick. He did not look after the girls, they were with Shanann all the time because she essentially worked from home! Never heard of Divorce? Shanann was a wonderful mother and loved Chris despite him not deserving of that love. This is a slap in the face to the Rzucek family. This whole case was so tragic and did not have to happen. I'm not surprised he would say this. He is a narcissist and will never take accountability.
Cris did loot after the girls , shanann had them in daycare costing $500. A week while all that time she was not paying other bills and they were facing a second bankruptcy in a two year period, shanann didn’t care about the girls or Cris they were just for show for that MLM bullshit that she couldn’t sell , and had plied up $30.000 of that crap in the basement collecting dust because she couldn’t sell it,
He was the caregiver? Yea, don’t buy that! Shannan took the kids to NC for a couple weeks and he hardly called her, because he was to busy sand boarding with what’s her name!
After seeing some of her old YT videos, I totally believe Shannen was a control freak to Chris. I can even sympathize with him in that regard having been in a similar relationship. In my case, I chose to divorce her. Now, over a decade later, I am married to the woman of my dreams who has given me 3 boys. No killing needed. Two things can be true at once: Shannen was an unbearable control freak and Chris is a despicable murderer who deserves to rot in prison.
You're both correct. Shannon had them getting ready to file their second bankruptcy in 3 years! Their first one was in 2015. She had $20,000+ of those thrive products packed up in the basement, all in an attempt to keep her Lexus. If she failed one month of meeting her 'quota' then the remainder of the payments on the Lexus was her responsibility. When you read up on those MLM companies it's hard to believe any educated person would fall for such a scam.
The short with them walking to the beach was telling to me. She did not want him in the video. She kept her should arched to block him. When he came into view she twisted a little more to move him out. She did it subtly which piqued my interest.
It doesn't matter what kind of person he says Shanann was, as if control freak is some kind of justification. What exactly did the children do? He killed them all! None of them deserved it. He blames everyone and everything but himself. I stopped listening to his lying BS a long time ago.
Chris watts would say his children were also too controlling. How about his mother she was the worst! never giving his family a sliver of encouragement
Yeah, she did seem very controlling. For the sake of argument, let’s say she was the most controlling person on the planet. You know what you could’ve done, Chris? You could’ve grown a spine and divorced her. Her being controlling still doesn’t explain why you killed your baby girls.
Is chrisx watts really a grown man.someone should explain to him that every mistress is everything thier wife isnt .wouldnt be much point of an affair if they were alike.he is like a little boy.
No she's not. They checked her phone records and all the messages. She was txting him hours before and days after the murders and her phone was not even pinged close to the house. So it's proven she's not involved. I think when Shanann came home at 2 in the night she must have seen Chris's phone while he was sleepin and checked it and saw all the sexting to NK going on. Cause NK did confess there could be some very private pic of me and of chris we send eachother
@@indonemesis1020 I don't know where you get your info but it was stated that there were no phonecalls or communications on the morning of the murders. Her phone pinged at 5.16 am if I remember rightly. She didn't clock on at work. Then she is on the neighbour'svideo. And there was a 111 minute phonecall the night before. Then her car was seen outside the house until noon that day. Suss much? It won't be proven one way or another whether she until all the evidence is properly investigated.
@@MaryBywatersShe wasn’t in the neighbors video. That is Chris Watts walking out of the garage at 5:17/5:18 am that morning. People who believe it is NK are seeing what they want to see. It’s highly pixelated and grainy footage. The truck the neighbor Betty mentions is not NK’s truck. It was described as a grey pick up truck with a cap on the bed. NK’s father has a grey pickup truck along with hundreds of thousands of others in Colorado. There was an 111 minute phone call the night before but only headlights are visible pulling in the Watts driveway on the neighbors footage. No one claimed to have seen HER vehicle. And lastly her phone did ping that morning from a tower in Fredrick at 6:16 am.
Some people are very controlling, and this can lead to a difficult marriage and unfair partnership on the spouse. In fact dont underestimate a controlling partner , it is TOXIC. However, still, no need to kill the woman and those poor poor babies! 😢heartbreaking. He could have just LEFT!
What the.hell is stalking someone's Facebook page when they post public stuff. There is no evidence during their time together she was looking at her page much as she didn't feel she needed too. And most people found her Facebook annoying.
@@alk158there is proof. Internet search history proves that she was stalking her page before she started talking to Chris Watts. You really don’t know what you’re talking about
@xxindiscriminated_shockxx I would love to know how you stalk a Facebook page. All to blame woman for a man's crime that he did 100 percent on his own.
How could she not know he was married? Didn't she work with him in the office that has all the paperwork for health insurance, dental insurance, retirement, emergency contact info. I call BS.
Absolute bulls… KESSINGER knew before she was ever in a sexual relationship with Watts, what his marital and family status was. Conniving, cunning, deceitful, lying disgrace to the female race. Clearly went to the family home and saw all the beautiful family pictures. Just guessing, from that point there was amplified pressure on CHRIS WATTS
Your don't have access to other people's personal records. Come on. He lied to her about the state of their marriage. Yeah she should have gone slower but all she is guilty of is immaturity and having an affair with someone she did believe was in the process of getting a divorce. Like everyone else dealing with le you worry you will be a suspect when you didn't do anything. Na lied about a number of things too. In both cases it wasn't about covering up a crime.
Of course she knew. 8 months before the deaths, she looked up Shanan on social media. Both she and Chris lied about her involvement in the deaths. She was responsible, too.
@alk158 I still call BS. You can't tell me that she is the only woman on earth who didn't find out everything she could about her new passion. The first thing they check is marital status. What kind of house car or kids. She is a very lucky lady to get away with her crime.
No, we can see the video in driveway. We see the shadow of a small person walking. Can also very faintly see him carrying a child who is upright. Not dead
She could be a control freak she could be the worst person in the world, and he still did not have the right to take her life and the life of his children. There’s a thing called divorce and parental rights.
The biggest red flag was Chris's relationship with his mother. Chris never stood up for Shanan. I guarentee he was talking to his mom all the time on his cellphone. Yes his parents did not attend their wedding. He still had a relationship with his malignant narc mom and weak dad. The mom was envious of Shanan. She is so in love with her son. He can do no wrong.She gave her granddaughters something that they were allergic to on purpose. There are no words for that.
Yes! I’ve always felt his mom was a garbage human and gives vibes of emotional !ncest. Perhaps more than emotional, IMO. Chris also seeks out dominant women because his mom wore the pants in his parents marriage, IMO.
I like that the first thing you talked about was Chris Watts, instead of leaving it to the end of the video, with the hope that people will watch the fill video. I'm much more likely to watch an entire video if you deliver the goods upfront and deliver them well, which you did. Great job.
It was a miracle death! The car reversed at 24 miles pef hour hitting with enough force to shatter the taillight but didn't break any bones or leave any bruises. The medical examiner marked the manner of death as undetermined and three experts testified he wasn't hit by a car but sure let's go with guilty.
If you are out there and feel stuck in a relationship just leave it will work its self out. You will still get to see your kids. The bills will work themselves out
💯 Cheaters need to devalue and discard their spouses in order to justify having affairs. There would be less violence and murder if people chose to get divorced instead of cheating.
When your pregnant , working full time, have little kids to take care of, have to cook, take care of house; you're going to need help & may not be very pleasant.
That’s so unfair. Coming from someone with major anxiety, trying to control things around you is a way to make you feel safe. Think about it, she’s pregnant, has two toddlers and a passive husband, of course she would feel like she has to control everything or else it all falls apart, that’s just how an anxious brain works. Stop bashing her already!
Stop trying to control men. The man is head of the household! What he did was wrong of course. He should have divorced his wife and found a feminine woman that wasn’t bossy. He had a boss at work, probably didn’t enjoy having one at home. What he did is reprehensible. His fellow inmates will eventually get him.
Im a control freak, and my husband of 19 yrs is pretty chill. But my husband also doesn't have a problem putting his foot down and telling me whats up when he feels its needed. I respect that and back off. Creats a good balance.
She was a control freak , she was abusive to his family also , but that is no need for him to kill his family , those dear little girls ,his unborn child , he should have walked away .hes EVIL .so is his mistress .
Oh Please; His mom is the abusive one; Regardless how you felt about your sons wife, You could've still went to the funeral. Sandy can't even say Shannon's name without a facial expression of hatred. Everybody's entitled to perceive things there way; But let's not try making Shannon out to be a monster: That would be the man who was squeezing his daughters head through a hole to continue his affair with......The job pass around. (Allegedly)
It's the watts mother who is the control freak and narcissist. That poor girl was only trying to save her relationship if only she knew who he really was her amd the kids would still be here.
CW is such a coward!!! He was happy that Shannan was in charge and on top of everything. Someone has to make the decisions and take the lead in a relationship. That doesn’t mean she was controlling. He was perfectly good with it until he met the tramp. Then he had to find reasons to hate his wife to justify in his mind why he was cheating on her. I truly believe the girls witnessed what he did to their mom, so he called his mistress and she told him that he needs to “finish the job” and that’s why the kids were taken out. This is just my theory and opinion. CW is where he belongs and once his soul leaves his body he will again be where he belongs, surrounded by demons just like himself but worse
@@Guitarbarella Hmm...wonder why after 8 years of not caring about overspending, bankruptcy, and increasing the size of his family, does he suddenly worry about child support?
Chris Watts will never blame himself. He still thinks he will be released one day and doesn't believe he should be in prison. This case will never leave me. Murdering your family is bad enough but dropping them in oil cylinders and basicly hiding your wife and unborn son under a few feet of soil is just appalling. Shannan wasn't perfect but who is. She worked non- stop for her family.
Yes Chris wife on video admits she was a control freak and she admitted she belittle him. But that is no excuse to kill her. That is what divorce is for. And no excuse to kill two girls who were both well under 10 years of age !
Just because he’s a murderer, he’s not mistaken. But the normal response is, “Honey, ambushing me with a livestream to announce a pregnancy when we’re in serious financial straits is inappropriate. Please shut off the camera.” And them a guy of normal maturity would say, ”Let’s sit down and talk about how we are gonna manage another baby without losing our home. We need to talk about this how much you’re sinking into this pyramid scheme, how our spending is out of control and why the girls are underweight.”
He is extremely conflicted avoidant. I firmly believe the only reason he started to leak some of his frustration to Shan’an towards the end is because he already decided he was going to kill her. You don’t have to deal with the consequences of conflict if you kill the person you’re having a conflict with.
CW was wanting a baby boy to save the marriage. SW objected with health and financial concerns. Tried to make things better n give him the boy. He hadn't expected to conceive so quickly. He was surprised so quickly and hadn't said he was pulling away and changed his mind . How soon and how he was told, which was to make HIM HAPPY was what occurred. So with encouragement he cowardly killed so viciously it's unimaginable.. im so sorry for SW and the three kids. So sorry for the SRW family . My sympathies forever.
@justanotherguy469 imo, another big part of his decision to kill his family (particularly Shan'an) is his preoccupation with peoples' opinion of him. If you watch his last interrogation, the only times he seems to get genuinely emotional is when he thinks about what people are going to think of him. If he just leaves or divorces him, she'll be able to tell people she thinks he was having an affair while she was pregnant, and how neglectful he was being. And he just randomly starts dating a woman from work right after? People are going to come to their own conclusions. Making it look like Shan'an essentially kidnapped their children never to be seen again was the only way he could paint Shan'an as the villain and him as the victim, and he has a great internal need to be seen as the good guy.
I still believe NK did something to bring on those murders. Gave CW an ultimatum, and even expressed disappointment or something that made him feel in his stupid mind that he was going to lose her. That woman has never been a victim in my eyes, for not respecting the boundaries of another woman's marriage.
Nobody deserves to be murdered. I was in as bad a custody battle as one can get. I learned some people just want to win, they have no moral compass, as much as they try to fake one. I'm not saying anything about SW. I'm referring to my own situation, where a person can make your life a living hell, because they aren't happy and you were supposed to be a part of that happiness and you are going to pay. These people used and abused their own offspring, because they hated me so much. Some people are just awful people. I'm not saying anything about this case, so don't be attacking me.
Problem was Shannan wasn't selling enough to even come close to paying all their bills, no way she could've supported her family working for a MLM company which is similar to a pyramid scheme. They had already filed bankruptcy in 2015 and were ready to file bankruptcy again just before he murdered her and the kids. I've been watching and reading up about these MLM companies, it's hard to believe it's even legal. He just needs to STHU and get used to his new lifelong home.
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Nope, Judge Bev ONLY denied Karen Read's motion to dismiss because she is as DIRTY as the Canton PD!
k. Why are we giving Chris Watts any air time?
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Being a control freak is no reason to be murdered. What did the kids do to him to get murdered and dropped into oil tanks ?
I hope he gets his karma in prison .
Nobody said it's a reason.... nobody said it was justifiable ....
@@k5camille982by calling her that, he is saying exactly that! Not to mention his vile mother. She has said, “we know what she was like!”, referring to Shanann. It’s clear that she feels he was justified killing his wife. These people are pure evil.
@@jenfitzpatrick7222 he may have said that. But he obviously is not in his right mind. You can't go by anything he says. 🙏🏾
it’s not but resentment festers
@@mcCafe93 that’s when he should of asked for a divorce & moved out .
My husband was a lying cheating loser, but I didn't kill him. I divorced him.
Agreed, my wife is a text book narcissist but I made a commitment to my children so I endure. It never would BUT IF things got to that level I would never harm a hair on my children's head!!!!
Edit: I make this statement based on his "she was controlling" line he's using now.
I had one of those too! Divorced it
Same !!!
there is difference. .not excusable what he did..but he was. RULED..
Cancer took mine .
Oh, poor Chris. Could not man up and just get a divorce.🤡
Yes ❤
But then he would have to pay for his three kids and alimony. It wasn’t just hatred and lust, it was pure greed.
He’s a whimp. Poor little boy. 👦. To late now. Stay in prison and rot Chris
@@Guitarbarella No he wouldnt. There are still ways to disappear.
@@nikimagelakis9085 the plan was to get a divorce tho, right? Sadly It just didn't happen.
“Just kill the wife and kids, no one’s going to notice”…oof 😣. CW is a special kind of stupid. No wonder his wife had to take control.
That’s a good point
"Special type of profoundly STUPID!"
She took control of for sure , and everyone was being kicked out of their house in just a few days , loosing everything because shanann wasn’t paying bills it all went to herself, what a waste of time and energy she was , she was at home and yet put the kids in daycare and the cost was $500.00 a week they couldn’t afford,, she was not a mother , she was a leech, not only to Cris , but the parents that stayed with them was made to live in basement and she drained them every single penny they had , and first husband same, she was good at bankruptcy one with first husband , two bankruptcy while with Cris, she was a freak, no doubt she was,
@@GoldyRyun Ouch
Whether she was controlling or not....Shanann, Bella, CeCe, and Nico did not deserve to be murdered and thrown away.
No one deserves that.
No they did not deserve that. Do a deep dive on Shannan. She was no prize. Should have just gotten a divorce however even then, she would still have continued to abuse those kids. Can anyone say “Münchausen” ? It’s just a horrible, senseless, avoidable tragedy.
@@JackieOlanternWhat do you mean by avoidable? Do you mean if she just improved herself she wouldn't have gotten herself and her family murdered and that Chris Watts is the true victim here?
@@JackieOlanternjust stop. Chris’s mom was the one who claimed all the BS about Shannan.
@@Mel-wn9gbJackie probably writes to Chris in prison
What did his poor kids do to be executed? CW is a monster.
Not saying it's a reason........... but out of his mouth....... he said..... he just took it out on everybody...... bcus that's how mad he was at Shannan
@@k5camille982He was mad at her because she wanted to make a good life for their family, what a clown 🤡
@@k5camille982I will never understand how chris' Parents find this to be an acceptable reason... and continue to blame shannan
@@sarahshanahan2222Because they, just like their son, are sentient piles of flaming trash.
What did you do with all of the time you saved abbreviating Chris Watts?
I didn’t think it was possible for me to have a lower opinion of Watts. Disgraceful
The equally lower opinion should be shared with kessinger, don’t be fooled
He is such a liar and monster
@@gayleclark6893 I agree.
The ironi of Chris Watts whining his wife made all the decisions. Look what he did when he was in charge, he unalived his entire family 🤢
and had a fluzzie on the side - he was blaming the fluzzie a few weeks ago
I think his floozy had a great deal of influence on the demise of his family
No CW wanted out because he was having an affair. She didn't influence him personally, it was his decision @annees9738
@@annees9738something is def off about her
Enough with this "unalived" crap 😡. It's called murdered!!!! What do you think they're going to do if you say murdered? Not a damn thing that's what.
You know what you do with control freaks?! Divorce them!! You don’t kill them! What did the children do? They didn’t deserve their fate. Neither did Shannan. Divorce would have been easier.
He was perfectly happy w Shannan in the driver's seat of their rel'ship ... until NK started eyeing him off & whispering new ideas in his ear ... then he thought he wanted her. Couldn't see she controlled him too, but via emotional blackmail.
i think he just wanted to be debt free
@@ajnathan9490put the blame where it belongs, on CW
Just walk away
Or, y’know, especially if you are a few years older than the control freak, you can act like the mature one and sit them down and start some loving but honest discussion of the control-freakery and delusional finances - the underweight of the children, the waste-of-space McMansion, the fact that you literally have more baby clothes for two toddlers than the inventory of an entire babywear store. Oh, and the pyramid scheme, the thousands of dollars of unsellable “product”, the money-hole of endless sales “courses” and “conferences” and your 401k being raided, all despite being a good earner and a modest spender yourself.
But hey, he had a lookalike without any of that, so…
As if he wasn't despicable enough already, he blames everyone but the person that killed his family--HIM
CW will never tell the whole truth about the why or how and I’m not sure why we even bother to listen anymore. Shan’ann, Bella, Celeste, and Nico deserved the chance to live full lives, and I hope they are able to rest peacefully.
Amen to that! ❤🙏
I agree!! If his lips are moving, he’s lying!!!!
Well said ❤
It was the SEX
A narcissist liar never wants to be honest or tell the truth to the world instead he or she prefers to lie and fabricated stories
And all Chris has done is lie and drag Shanna's named in the mud
So what? You dont get to kill people because you think they are controlling. My dad was controlling, my mom, my boss. So? And?? Grow up Chris.
His mother definitely was, too, that was probably the root, imo.
@@poempadgett4664that's why Cindy hated shannan so much
Yes, Chris's mother was a torn in the marriage from the beginning, she should have kept her nose out of their marriage. Cindy Watts was the mother in law from hell. Chris was a weak wimp that couldn't say sh*t if he had a mouth full. Ronnie Watts was just like Chris, a weak man that Cindy also treated him just like little boy Chris. A mentally sick family from years ago and sadly end up with this tragedy. Listening to Cindy and Ronnie Watts praising him in the courtroom before sentencing was really sickening.
@@Faizasmith-pj4dz Shannan didn't get along with her own parents either, she made them sleep in the basement when they had a guestroom and she even made them pay her, her mother packed her bags grabbed her husband and left.
The mistress did not have responsibility of caring for and raising children
She never seen them cause they both weren't in the stage of bringing the kids in to meet
@@indonemesis1020I'm pretty sure that Mary meant that unlike Shannon the mistress wasn't a mother and didn't have to be a "control freak" to handle everyday life! He obviously didn't help out enough, if she had to resort to manage her husband aswell...
@@indonemesis1020That wasn’t the point of Mary’s comment. The mistress was more appealing to Chris because it was a more carefree existence with her because she didn’t have the same lifestyle. There was no juggling of a job and raising children with NK, she didn’t have a family and all that goes with it.
So you kill your whole family because she was a control freak this dude should of received the death penalty
Even if she was a control freak. She didn't deserve to be murdered
and those kids did nothing - they loved him 😥
Right away when you say something like that its like your condoning the murder .....stop ...it's just to show the problems there were ..maybe it can help others
"She was a control freak" are another way of saying she tried to push him to take responsibility as a father and husband, while not seeing his wife as a mum. She probably 'nagged' him to man up and take responsibilities for his family .
Watts is a loser in this life and the next. May he be punished accordingly.
Exactly
nah she was a controll freak for real though , have not seen a worse case. he was not even allowed to put up a picture on The wall @@DashadashaPilova
@@kefkahkefkah so what? Is that an excuse for the murder? What about filing for divorce instead? No choice left for the narcissistic idiot Chris?
We all know these type of controlling women but still no excuse for murder, especially the kids.
Why is anyone giving him any airtime? Who cares what lies he’s spouting now. He needs to be forgotten about and never spoke of again!!!
And yet . Here we are....
@@kathleen_00Totally agree.
Well the reason Cris is not being forgotten is people are making to much money on the social media, at the expense of the victims,, hope these people are proud of themselves, making money off the deceased, ,, My opinion they should be ashamed of themselves,
He keeps getting himself in the news cause if he don’t he will soon be forgotten and once that happens , he’s gonna get killed in prison,bottom line..they won’t make a move on a high profile prisoner cause it causes disruption in the prison system up to the warden …. Once he is out of interviews and forgotten , he’s going watch.
Well said 😋💯
You could have divorced her.....now you deal with your choice......
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And his family would totally support him. There are so many went thru an ugly divorce with no support.
This guy just can’t stop making excuses and blaming other people for his own actions
He's a turd
why are women allowed to blame men but when men blame women everyone jumps to blame the man still and the womans defence?
@@Row2nd in this case because the MAN is a murderer. He murdered his wife , his unborn child and his two daughters. So tell me, not even thinking about Shannan right now, what did a 3 year old and a 4 year old possible do that justified their father smothering them to death and cramming their bodies through an 8 inch hole into an oil drum?
@@Row2ndare you really defending a murderer…Jesus Christ… go make some friends dude.
Fully Narcissistic traits -blaming others and no self- reflection for own wrongdoings.
Every time Chris Watts feels irrelevant there in prison he does some weirdo stuff like this. He's so embarrassing.
He cannot bare having lost his "good boy" mask. It will torture him for the rest of his days. He won't care much about the deaths. It is about him.
His Mommy can't be in prison with him to make excuses for him so he has to do that for himself these days.
@@vickyabramowitz2885I'm sure mummy is in his ear still
The showmanship is over, the curtain has closed. He keeps changing his story, blaming everybody else and nobody cares.
Hint leave her, dont kill her.
And the kids
If you marry a “control freak,” and it bothers you, get a divorce. Don’t murder your spouse and innocent kids! Zero excuse for his behavior. If you think what he did was ok,…. Get help, you are empathizing with a murderer, you also have problems.
What else could he say about her? Oh she’s control wa!
That side chick brings more to the story than meets the eyes. In my opinion.
I hope she’s actually investigated, I have seen several documentaries presenting convincing alleged evidence of her involvement in the murders and or/cover up. I believe them. Hopefully, a thorough investigation is done and she will see justice.
💯 was there and helped in every way. I read the discovery. She's guilty as hell.
He has no conscience but no way he killed those kids on his own. There was a new sheriff in town.
I saw a video here some time ago someone close to her “allegedly “ per video was said that she changed her name to queen or something like that and that she in fact had a child by Chris but she moved far like Alaska or somewhere around that area up north and that she was having a lot of anxiety,suicidal etc because she couldn’t handle the pressure of all of this aftermath. Is this true ? Only god knows , but the video went super viral . If I find it I’ll try to link it
I think Chris physically killed his family but I also believe his mistress was in control of his brain.
Were his kids control freaks, too? His unborn child who he helped create? Pretty sure his girlfriend did help him with his decision. Once again, a person who thinks he can go back and erase part of his life with no consequences.
only a man could pull off complaining that they were the “primary caregiver” of their own child. Guess he was really just looking to baby-sit
Cris was the caregiver of his girls , shanann neglected them , she wouldn’t even put that damn phone down long enough to feed and give them water to drink ,cece was so thirsty that she drank water from the toilet, , he done everything for the girls , worked his ass off to take care of the family and shanann blew every single dollar on that MLM bullshit, plane trips , motels , $30.000 of that thrive crap setting in the basement collecting dust that she couldn’t sell , and never paying payments to keep a roof over their heads, they were loosing everything and had to be out of that house in 11days from the day of the murders, and yes Cris should have waited until she had that baby and divorced her, from all those videos she made neglecting the kids I’m sure Cris could have gotten custody of them, Cris and kids lived like prisoners with shanann and her the prison warden, he probably feels more free where he’s at than with shanann, he just traded one prison for another prison, at least he’s not having a camera shoved into his face all the time , shanann was out for herself and no one else, she used every single one of the family , until they were as poor as the people who lived back in the depression days , in her life she was responsible for three bankruptcy, one with first husband ,two bankruptcy while with Cris, embezzled money to buy her first house while screwing the one she embezzled, she was terminated, and the bank took that house, she definitely was no angel , she was selfish and treated everyone horrible,
unfortunately, I've never believed his story. I think the girls were the first to be lost, I think that was the hit by the dogs in the basement, He pretended to make up w his wife to get her defenses down, then she was lost. What no one has ever really mentioned is that the shallow grave was undoubtfully temporary. He had plans of putting them all in the tanks, but he never had the chance because attention was brought before he could finish his "workday" and go home to clean things up.
Chris Watts may have thought that Shannan was a control freak but it's irrelevant because he was a monster.
We kinda figured Shannan was a hand full & him being a passive guy, suppressing everything was not a perfect fit. But you know what..that’s WHY you get a DIVORCE! Not murder. You wiped out your whole family but using your bare hands. That is so vile & wicked smh.
His wife was controlling and was overspending money, he was miserable with her, met a woman he found happiness with, filed for divorce…. You see how different this story would be if he decide to end this marriage like a normal person??? You may hate your spouse but that’s not a reason to kill whole family
his mistress controlled him with something else!
His wife controlled him , then his mistress,
Yeah he is the victim. The misogyny in this case is something else. That women have this power they don't have. Very similar to antisemitic tropes.
Chris Watts makes me sick. He did not look after the girls, they were with Shanann all the time because she essentially worked from home! Never heard of Divorce? Shanann was a wonderful mother and loved Chris despite him not deserving of that love. This is a slap in the face to the Rzucek family. This whole case was so tragic and did not have to happen. I'm not surprised he would say this. He is a narcissist and will never take accountability.
Cris did loot after the girls , shanann had them in daycare costing $500. A week while all that time she was not paying other bills and they were facing a second bankruptcy in a two year period, shanann didn’t care about the girls or Cris they were just for show for that MLM bullshit that she couldn’t sell , and had plied up $30.000 of that crap in the basement collecting dust because she couldn’t sell it,
💯right!!
The girls went to daycare
@@Juliet-y3g Later they did.
Unless your life is in danger, there never an excuse for murder
Exactly. Conversation over.
CW, you now know what being controlled really looks like! Poor baby, she was controlling, someone had to look after you! 🤡
Now he's controlled 24/7
Whenever I hear about Watts, I'm always reminded of the cop bodycam video of him squirming as they all watch the neighbor's CCTV footage.
That was an all time great scene. Oh, the nervous sweaty squirming....
He was the caregiver? Yea, don’t buy that! Shannan took the kids to NC for a couple weeks and he hardly called her, because he was to busy sand boarding with what’s her name!
Yes, 6 weeks to be exact and he went up the last 2 weeks they were there.
@@aprilwalkeraw3 1 Week
After seeing some of her old YT videos, I totally believe Shannen was a control freak to Chris. I can even sympathize with him in that regard having been in a similar relationship.
In my case, I chose to divorce her. Now, over a decade later, I am married to the woman of my dreams who has given me 3 boys. No killing needed.
Two things can be true at once: Shannen was an unbearable control freak and Chris is a despicable murderer who deserves to rot in prison.
I watched the documentary and I reached the same conclusion. The Christmas video....
You're both correct. Shannon had them getting ready to file their second bankruptcy in 3 years! Their first one was in 2015. She had $20,000+ of those thrive products packed up in the basement, all in an attempt to keep her Lexus. If she failed one month of meeting her 'quota' then the remainder of the payments on the Lexus was her responsibility. When you read up on those MLM companies it's hard to believe any educated person would fall for such a scam.
No! The control freak is the one, who does the killing. Watts committed the ultimate act of control, with his bare hands!
The short with them walking to the beach was telling to me. She did not want him in the video. She kept her should arched to block him. When he came into view she twisted a little more to move him out. She did it subtly which piqued my interest.
@@chrystaljelena22 Why wouldn't Shannan want him in the video? It doesn't make sense.
When the little head gets hard the big head turns to mush.
CW- “open your eyes and look at what you have done” -Dexter
It doesn't matter what kind of person he says Shanann was, as if control freak is some kind of justification. What exactly did the children do? He killed them all! None of them deserved it. He blames everyone and everything but himself. I stopped listening to his lying BS a long time ago.
It's a smear campaign...he thinks that gives him a reason for murder 😡
Chris watts would say his children were also too controlling. How about his mother she was the worst! never giving his family a sliver of encouragement
What this man did to his beautiful little girls who Adored and Loved him was just absolutely despicable….😤😤😤😤
Yeah, she did seem very controlling. For the sake of argument, let’s say she was the most controlling person on the planet. You know what you could’ve done, Chris? You could’ve grown a spine and divorced her. Her being controlling still doesn’t explain why you killed your baby girls.
Shannan was controlling because he was a wussy
Oh she was a control freak. Of course that’s a great reason for him to do ALL THE THINGS he did 🙄
His narcissistic mind sees it different to normal people do. They really are about propping up a false ego where they are a good boy! No matter what.
Is chrisx watts really a grown man.someone should explain to him that every mistress is everything thier wife isnt .wouldnt be much point of an affair if they were alike.he is like a little boy.
Mummy's boy 😮
He is a narcissistic psychopath - it is about how attention made him feel, could be from any woman. They are objects to stroke ego.
NK was more controlling than Shanann. Saw it immediately. Cheating men often tell their wives that they are controlling and insecure.
He just doesn't want to admit that he made the wrong choices. He should have just walked away.
Kessenger is also guilty and the Weld county have failed to close this case. Disgraceful.
She was not. He did that to himself ALONE like the idiot he is
No she's not. They checked her phone records and all the messages. She was txting him hours before and days after the murders and her phone was not even pinged close to the house. So it's proven she's not involved. I think when Shanann came home at 2 in the night she must have seen Chris's phone while he was sleepin and checked it and saw all the sexting to NK going on. Cause NK did confess there could be some very private pic of me and of chris we send eachother
@@indonemesis1020 I don't know where you get your info but it was stated that there were no phonecalls or communications on the morning of the murders. Her phone pinged at 5.16 am if I remember rightly. She didn't clock on at work. Then she is on the neighbour'svideo. And there was a 111 minute phonecall the night before. Then her car was seen outside the house until noon that day. Suss much? It won't be proven one way or another whether she until all the evidence is properly investigated.
@@MaryBywatersShe wasn’t in the neighbors video. That is Chris Watts walking out of the garage at 5:17/5:18 am that morning. People who believe it is NK are seeing what they want to see. It’s highly pixelated and grainy footage. The truck the neighbor Betty mentions is not NK’s truck. It was described as a grey pick up truck with a cap on the bed. NK’s father has a grey pickup truck along with hundreds of thousands of others in Colorado. There was an 111 minute phone call the night before but only headlights are visible pulling in the Watts driveway on the neighbors footage. No one claimed to have seen HER vehicle. And lastly her phone did ping that morning from a tower in Fredrick at 6:16 am.
Controlling or not, nobody deserves to be murdered and discarded like trash.
Very right on that! He was no good from the start. She was too good for him. And those poor children!! 💔
Some people are very controlling, and this can lead to a difficult marriage and unfair partnership on the spouse. In fact dont underestimate a controlling partner , it is TOXIC. However, still, no need to kill the woman and those poor poor babies! 😢heartbreaking. He could have just LEFT!
she knew DAMN well he was married she stalked shannons fb page
What the.hell is stalking someone's Facebook page when they post public stuff. There is no evidence during their time together she was looking at her page much as she didn't feel she needed too. And most people found her Facebook annoying.
@@alk158 Exactly! How can it be stalking, when it is public? Democrats think, just because they call it that, that is what it is.
@@alk158there is proof. Internet search history proves that she was stalking her page before she started talking to Chris Watts. You really don’t know what you’re talking about
@@alk158you should be ashamed of yourself!
@xxindiscriminated_shockxx I would love to know how you stalk a Facebook page. All to blame woman for a man's crime that he did 100 percent on his own.
This broke me to pieces. Heartbroken for the daughters, unborn baby. The families saddest story in history.😢
It's worst when you have to go remove dirt from locations that have oil tanks 😔😢
How could she not know he was married? Didn't she work with him in the office that has all the paperwork for health insurance, dental insurance, retirement, emergency contact info. I call BS.
Absolute bulls… KESSINGER knew before she was ever in a sexual relationship with Watts, what his marital and family status was.
Conniving, cunning, deceitful, lying disgrace to the female race.
Clearly went to the family home and saw all the beautiful family pictures.
Just guessing, from that point there was amplified pressure on CHRIS WATTS
Your don't have access to other people's personal records. Come on. He lied to her about the state of their marriage. Yeah she should have gone slower but all she is guilty of is immaturity and having an affair with someone she did believe was in the process of getting a divorce. Like everyone else dealing with le you worry you will be a suspect when you didn't do anything. Na lied about a number of things too. In both cases it wasn't about covering up a crime.
Of course she knew. 8 months before the deaths, she looked up Shanan on social media. Both she and Chris lied about her involvement in the deaths. She was responsible, too.
@@brendaleigh7834 EXACTLY!!! The NASTY 🤢 Other DEVIL followed the the family even before she worked for the company
@alk158 I still call BS. You can't tell me that she is the only woman on earth who didn't find out everything she could about her new passion. The first thing they check is marital status. What kind of house car or kids. She is a very lucky lady to get away with her crime.
I still believe that Chris had killed his 2 daughters before he put them in the truck and before Shanan got home. Hes evil and a liar.
No, we can see the video in driveway. We see the shadow of a small person walking. Can also very faintly see him carrying a child who is upright. Not dead
Aka I can’t control myself. If she’s such a control freak how did you have time to have a whole relationship? You’re spoiled. The end
She could be a control freak she could be the worst person in the world, and he still did not have the right to take her life and the life of his children. There’s a thing called divorce and parental rights.
The biggest red flag was Chris's relationship with his mother. Chris never stood up for Shanan. I guarentee he was talking to his mom all the time on his cellphone. Yes his parents did not attend their wedding. He still had a relationship with his malignant narc mom and weak dad. The mom was envious of Shanan. She is so in love with her son. He can do no wrong.She gave her granddaughters something that they were allergic to on purpose. There are no words for that.
Yes! I’ve always felt his mom was a garbage human and gives vibes of emotional !ncest. Perhaps more than emotional, IMO.
Chris also seeks out dominant women because his mom wore the pants in his parents marriage, IMO.
Cw was never a man.he is always a little bad boy of his mom!
CW mother is vile .
I like that the first thing you talked about was Chris Watts, instead of leaving it to the end of the video, with the hope that people will watch the fill video. I'm much more likely to watch an entire video if you deliver the goods upfront and deliver them well, which you did. Great job.
He couldn't say to Shanann, "I can't live like this anymore"??
My opinion.. Karen Reid is guilty. Drinking, driving, angry, jealous, car damaged, leaving the scene…
Jealous of what? Dropping him off at someone's house & leaving him without a car?
It was a miracle death! The car reversed at 24 miles pef hour hitting with enough force to shatter the taillight but didn't break any bones or leave any bruises. The medical examiner marked the manner of death as undetermined and three experts testified he wasn't hit by a car but sure let's go with guilty.
Did you watch the trial.
Agree
She told them she had hit him with the vehicle. Usually what an alcoholic says while they are drunk is the TRUTH. Drinking is a TRUTH sirum
He was insane to do what he did . We will never know what made him that way . Rip his victims.
And there is STILL going to be woman going after Chris Watts...id put those women in jail for just that lol
That should not be allowed. It's sick.
It’s no excuse that she was overbearing, and from
what I saw, demeaning. That’s when you get a divorce.
Nicol 100% knew all; about his wife, children, baby--and Chris' plan to get rid of his wife . Disgusting she wasn't prosecuted.
If you are out there and feel stuck in a relationship just leave it will work its self out. You will still get to see your kids. The bills will work themselves out
3:07 In actuality and unnecessarily, he put each girl in a different one of the dual tanks.
He is a monster in human form and his intentions were to destroy the souls of his victims.
With her help
Always Always Love Your videos Scott!!
Oh boohoo Chris Watts!
Calling the wife a control freak is affair 101. They all do it.
💯 Cheaters need to devalue and discard their spouses in order to justify having affairs. There would be less violence and murder if people chose to get divorced instead of cheating.
When your pregnant , working full time, have little kids to take care of, have to cook, take care of house; you're going to need help & may not be very pleasant.
Shanann was a control freak??...lol. What about NK. She was worse in my opinion.
That’s so unfair. Coming from someone with major anxiety, trying to control things around you is a way to make you feel safe. Think about it, she’s pregnant, has two toddlers and a passive husband, of course she would feel like she has to control everything or else it all falls apart, that’s just how an anxious brain works.
Stop bashing her already!
I totally get that.
If your marriage is in trouble, why have another baby that is not gonna make things better
@@JYT-n7c didn’t sound like their marriage was in trouble until Chris started dipping his toes in someone else’s pool
Stop trying to control men. The man is head of the household!
What he did was wrong of course. He should have divorced his wife and found a feminine woman that wasn’t bossy. He had a boss at work, probably didn’t enjoy having one at home.
What he did is reprehensible. His fellow inmates will eventually get him.
controlled ? wife even don't know he has secret lover.....
Im a control freak, and my husband of 19 yrs is pretty chill. But my husband also doesn't have a problem putting his foot down and telling me whats up when he feels its needed. I respect that and back off. Creats a good balance.
@@shannon8485
Same in our house!
Same with me.
She was a control freak , she was abusive to his family also , but that is no need for him to kill his family , those dear little girls ,his unborn child , he should have walked away .hes EVIL .so is his mistress .
Oh Please; His mom is the abusive one; Regardless how you felt about your sons wife, You could've still went to the funeral. Sandy can't even say Shannon's name without a facial expression of hatred. Everybody's entitled to perceive things there way; But let's not try making Shannon out to be a monster: That would be the man who was squeezing his daughters head through a hole to continue his affair with......The job pass around.
(Allegedly)
@@selinedirroco1860nope , Shannon was a abusive, mean, manipulative, lying thief. She was also a child abuser.
@@selinedirroco1860the kids couldn't fit through a 8 inch hole with a two inch lip on the inside.
It's the watts mother who is the control freak and narcissist. That poor girl was only trying to save her relationship if only she knew who he really was her amd the kids would still be here.
She was abusive to his family!??? You need need to read more about Cindy Watts you’re very mistaken
His wife's behavior in the marriage is no reason to kill her or his children. Unfortunately, he and wife's relation is evident in their family videos.
Were the babies control freaks too, is that the story?
Still blames Shanann wtf i hate him so much
CW is such a coward!!! He was happy that Shannan was in charge and on top of everything. Someone has to make the decisions and take the lead in a relationship. That doesn’t mean she was controlling. He was perfectly good with it until he met the tramp. Then he had to find reasons to hate his wife to justify in his mind why he was cheating on her.
I truly believe the girls witnessed what he did to their mom, so he called his mistress and she told him that he needs to “finish the job” and that’s why the kids were taken out. This is just my theory and opinion. CW is where he belongs and once his soul leaves his body he will again be where he belongs, surrounded by demons just like himself but worse
This guy never heard of something called "divorce."
CW is so OBVIOUSLY GUILTY! I'm shocked there's people so inconceivably unaware to claim he is not.
I first heard about Scott from this case yrs ago. Been a fan ever since
If she was such a control freak why the fact the neighbours said they could often hear him yelling in arguments? Why? Coz he is Lying again!
It was about money..he didn’t want to pay for three kids and an ex wife.
@@GuitarbarellaChris didn't care about money. But the new sheriff in town did.
Very good point.
@@Daniela-Christianson he did say he didn’t want to pay child support. Keep up.
@@Guitarbarella Hmm...wonder why after 8 years of not caring about overspending, bankruptcy, and increasing the size of his family, does he suddenly worry about child support?
I'm a control freak. That's why I'm single. DOH.
I’m a control freak to!
I’m alive and I married my husband 40 years ago …
Women keep the house organized and clean and keep the family functioning you can call it control what ever Chris
Now he doesn't even have the decency to let them rest in peace
Chris Watts will never blame himself. He still thinks he will be released one day and doesn't believe he should be in prison. This case will never leave me. Murdering your family is bad enough but dropping them in oil cylinders and basicly hiding your wife and unborn son under a few feet of soil is just appalling. Shannan wasn't perfect but who is. She worked non- stop for her family.
Thank you, Scott!
Loving the pinstripe handsome😉😊
Yes Chris wife on video admits she was a control freak and she admitted she belittle him. But that is no excuse to kill her. That is what divorce is for. And no excuse to kill two girls who were both well under 10 years of age !
Wow and now he is still being controlled
The reason was he wanted a new life and zero responsibilities with his ex wife and children. He is a monster!!
Emotions can rise high when chef boyardee is in the mix... 🤦
Thanks Scott
It's called: DIVORCE
Just because he’s a murderer, he’s not mistaken. But the normal response is, “Honey, ambushing me with a livestream to announce a pregnancy when we’re in serious financial straits is inappropriate. Please shut off the camera.”
And them a guy of normal maturity would say, ”Let’s sit down and talk about how we are gonna manage another baby without losing our home. We need to talk about this how much you’re sinking into this pyramid scheme, how our spending is out of control and why the girls are underweight.”
He is extremely conflicted avoidant. I firmly believe the only reason he started to leak some of his frustration to Shan’an towards the end is because he already decided he was going to kill her. You don’t have to deal with the consequences of conflict if you kill the person you’re having a conflict with.
Or he could have just gone out to pick up milk, and never come back.
CW and SW. Did talk about changes to downsize and budget to sell and get a less expensive home. Etc. Karen Morente
CW was wanting a baby boy to save the marriage. SW objected with health and financial concerns. Tried to make things better n give him the boy. He hadn't expected to conceive so quickly. He was surprised so quickly and hadn't said he was pulling away and changed his mind . How soon and how he was told, which was to make HIM HAPPY was what occurred. So with encouragement he cowardly killed so viciously it's unimaginable.. im so sorry for SW and the three kids. So sorry for the SRW family . My sympathies forever.
@justanotherguy469 imo, another big part of his decision to kill his family (particularly Shan'an) is his preoccupation with peoples' opinion of him. If you watch his last interrogation, the only times he seems to get genuinely emotional is when he thinks about what people are going to think of him. If he just leaves or divorces him, she'll be able to tell people she thinks he was having an affair while she was pregnant, and how neglectful he was being. And he just randomly starts dating a woman from work right after? People are going to come to their own conclusions. Making it look like Shan'an essentially kidnapped their children never to be seen again was the only way he could paint Shan'an as the villain and him as the victim, and he has a great internal need to be seen as the good guy.
I still believe NK did something to bring on those murders. Gave CW an ultimatum, and even expressed disappointment or something that made him feel in his stupid mind that he was going to lose her. That woman has never been a victim in my eyes, for not respecting the boundaries of another woman's marriage.
Allegedly she gave Chris the narcotics Oxycodone to give to Shannan so she'd have a miscarriage. 😞
Chris left Shannan for trailer park trash.
Nobody deserves to be murdered. I was in as bad a custody battle as one can get. I learned some people just want to win, they have no moral compass, as much as they try to fake one. I'm not saying anything about SW. I'm referring to my own situation, where a person can make your life a living hell, because they aren't happy and you were supposed to be a part of that happiness and you are going to pay. These people used and abused their own offspring, because they hated me so much. Some people are just awful people. I'm not saying anything about this case, so don't be attacking me.
We're those innocent children control freaks too!!!
Honestly, if I hear this one more time! Lots of people are “control freaks “! This does not validate his horrific actions!! A vile, evil person!!
It’s takes a vile demon to do what he did.
Problem was Shannan wasn't selling enough to even come close to paying all their bills, no way she could've supported her family working for a MLM company which is similar to a pyramid scheme.
They had already filed bankruptcy in 2015 and were ready to file bankruptcy again just before he murdered her and the kids. I've been watching and reading up about these MLM companies, it's hard to believe it's even legal.
He just needs to STHU and get used to his new lifelong home.
Who the fck cares? She tried her best. She and her little girls didn’t deserve to die.