Stopping the season to play the Leagues Cup, and changing the playoffs every other year. MLS is a young league but should be more established than this by now.
My team (CF Montreal) does not even have their homekit ready before the season starts. Imagine not knowing your season format a week before. SMH clown show!
I'm too old. I grew up in an era when major sporting events, and all league play, were free. I've seen Apple grow from an innovative little company to a monopoly. Though I've been one of the few my age who has loved soccer my entire live (Dallas Tornado!), I won't be paying Apple for the "privilege" of watching the MLS. As for the stupidity of still not having the format while also considering playoff series, this isn't baseball, stick to soccer.
I have no idea when the MLS starts or ends or takes a break or which teams are involved or who the star players are, nothing. In contrast, I can name at least one team and one star player in the Saudi league. MLS really is embarrassing.
Imagine being a real footballer from a system that works perfectly as is and coming here and seeing this clustermess of drafts and playoffs. Promotion/relegation multi-tier system with no salary caps is the way to make a good league. Sportscomunism doesn't work, and mls will always be inferior until they implement the European table model.
There are so many different models out there. I felt the same way until I saw how Scotland, Argentina, Belgium, etc etc do it. The lack of info right now is a different story.
While every other euro club/league is corrupt or broke with overspending financial problems. Is what we have perfect nope but it’s better to build a solid foundation than rush off to a system that won’t work in our country quite yet.
They legue would fold under a European table model. Because of the competition from other sports leagues, coupled with playing over what are two continent sized countries, things like balanced schedules with no playoffs or relegation aren't going to work here. I agree the proposed best two out of three thing is stupid but there are logistical reasons why the league is set up the way it is lol
TV partners obviously have a say, and it stands to reason they would want more playoff inventory. It is just an incredibly odd ask for a tv partner to want to put the greatest focus on the first round of the playoffs, turn that round into a slog, and then sprint to the finish when you expect to see the best matchups.
I think the theory is since we don’t really have away fans because it’s so much travel they want to give everyone a homegame at some point I n the playoffs and then just keep what has already been working the rest of the way through. This way every fanbase gets the chance to at least see one playoff game without having to book a flight and hotel.
@@gracielynn9623 that's fair. but at that point they should at leastdo what champions league does where the higher seeded team gets to play the final match at their grounds.
@@aranchuica965 ohh they do. In the best of three it goes home-away-home. The middle game is the away game for the better seated team. If it goes to game three, the team with the better record hosts.
@@gracielynn9623 that’s what I mean. If they do home and away. They should give the second leg to the higher seeded team. 3 matches is entirely too much to be playing for 3-4 playoff rounds. That’s 4-6 weeks worth of games every 3 or so days
@@aranchuica965 they only do the best of three for the round of 16, conference quarterfinals. Once you get past this round, they are all single elimination games at the home of the team with the better record.
250 million a year is extremely laughable and pathetic for a deal when it’s all broken down. Before production expenses and such l, it’s only 8.6 million per club. Hopefully they have an out clause by the World Cup
It’s also a giant upgrade from what ESPN was paying them. ESPN was only giving a grand total of $90M per year for everything. At least apple is almost trippling that.
@@gracielynn9623 mls is now responsible for all production costs and hiring of talent which will end up being less than what they’re getting from their TV Deals with ESPN, fox and tudn
It's the dumbest playoff format they've done yet. Best of 3 series? Are you kidding me? What a convoluted mess. No wonder MLS continues to be a laughing stock.
@@davepazz580 you do realize that a billionaire owner can own a team from the lower leagues and is patiently waiting for their opportunity to get into the big leagues. Perfect example, Nottingham Forest in the premier league. The team got promoted to the premier league and the billionaire owner bought like 23 new players and is investing in the team with the premier league cash he received. Also, when you have Promotion/ relegation the players play harder, the fans are more loud and roudy because you are fighting to survive. You are fighting to stay alive in the premier league. Everything goes up another level. Southampton, Everton, Leeds, Bournemouth, the lower 6 teams in the premier league are on edge. There is no comfort. If you get relegated the city and the team is going to lose a lot of money. Most of the players are going to leave, the manager and staff will get fired. It's like a funeral. It's like a death. MLS is too comfortable. That's not football. I like my Orlando City team but it's hard to invest a lot of time into MLS. MLS will have no choice but to go Promotion/ relegation because people are going to stop caring.
That's in England, where clubs are independent entities and soccer suffers no serious competition from other big-time sports for fans' attention... this is America where an entirely different sports culture exists, and the entire year is planned out by various sports leagues championship games... And no better way to give fans less of a reason for showing up to games than to basically tell them they have to be punished (by no longer having a team in the top division) for what the players and coaches did on the field... The average fan will simply dump his soccer team entirely and shift focus to the other, bigger sports teams in town... you know, the ones that actually give fans a *reason* for showing up other than silly threats of no longer being int he top league. btw everything you said about players leaving and coaches getting fired is *also* what happens when an MLS team finishes last... so really it's all the same thing.
@@davepazz580 it's not the same thing. Football/Soccer has promotion/relegation worldwide. Other countries have multiple major league sports also. England has Rugby, Cricket etc. Italy, Spain has Basketball along with soccer. Listen I disagree with you. MLS will never be a top league with a closed system that doesn't allow promotion/relegation. People are going to become disinterested after awhile. To be honest with you, with the change in demographics and more Hispanics and Europeans and Asians flock to America, Soccer should not try to be like other American sports. All they got to do is get it right. If MLS do not incorporate promotion/ relegation then Americans will just turn their attention to the Premier league and La Liga because when you watch the sport on tv it looks like 2 different sport. I live in Orlando and the Orlando Magic has been trash for like 20 years. Absolute Trash. The Jacksonville Jaguars is the same. So I don't think the American sports fan will stop supporting their team if they get relegated. In my opinion, the Orlando Magic has been relegated for like 20 years. The only time fans show up is when big superstars like lebron come to town. So the American sports closed league system is worse than promotion/relegation in my eyes.
MLS is a joke lol. What league has so many teams? What is the actual expansion plan, 36 teams? Its ridiculous, rumors of best of 3 games would kill the regular season which is already on life support. The bottom teams already have absolutely nothing to play for. Most MLS teams average under 20k attendance per game and its because the games don't matter. What makes games matter Promotion and Relegation.
@@jamisonmunn9215 that's not true whatsoever. No teams ever reach 100% or even 99% attendance. A healthy number is between 90 and 96% which lots of mls teams have
@@robertohernandez2258 ask normal americans what they think of two legged things. To us, that’s ridiculous. The league has to take into account where it’s playing. Best of three is popular with americans, two legged things is silly to us and vast majority of americans, soccer fan or not, don’t like that idea. We don’t like knowing essentially who’s won before the second game is even played. We don’t like those being simply formalities. MLS used to do do two legged playoffs, they were incredibly unpopular.
Inter Miami fans are fuming we have Phil Neville instead of a real manager. I'm not sure how they expect to sign Messi if they don't take winning seriously.
@@stevenygabbyperez695 you call us savages I’d say you lot are the savages We’re the proper football fans Funny how Americans make the English out to be southern and bucktoothed but in reality we’re not and we’re passionate about our teams and leagues Meanwhile in the 🇺🇸 “I believe that we will win” “USA USA” “Fight And Win” You lot don’t even know what tribal is Heck you lot don’t even act like proper football fans instead you act like your at a NBA game or a NFL game USL’s got more respect around the world than you Imagine calling yourself a top 10 league based off attendance only you sad fucks 😂
I love mls but hate how they tryin to change it to nfl bs need partner with Europe an learn sum things about fotball/soccer And also apple products sux . Like who really uses that bs in 30 sum years only new 1 person to use apple lol
Except that Europe doesn't have 4 other big sports leagues (and all of them bigger than soccer) also vying for the public's attention... you can't "copy" what was never conceived under identical circumstances in the first place.
Football works everywhere else like this , they should do this MLS could be massive instead it’s a pub league , and it’s because of the play offs and the American vibe
MLS football has nothing to do with NFL or any other American sport. The guy on the left just doesn’t get football ⚽️. You must not let the broadcast company take over. I thought it was bad enough with PL with its ridiculous starting times.
Whether they like it or not, *any* professional American sports league is in direct competition with the NFL and other leagues for the public's attention... There is a specific reason American sports leagues don't schedule their most important games to coincide with the other league's championship games, as it would be idiotic to do so...
Stopping the season to play the Leagues Cup, and changing the playoffs every other year. MLS is a young league but should be more established than this by now.
Stopping league play for a month to compete in a self-created tournament to make the league more relevant is the biggest self own of all.
I feel bad for mls more than sorry glad I aint american
My team (CF Montreal) does not even have their homekit ready before the season starts. Imagine not knowing your season format a week before. SMH clown show!
This best of 3 makes super league look good
Fan: Well, at least the MLS can’t get any worse…
MLS: Lmaooo
Aside from the fact that it is a low level league where its best players aren't even American, you now have this. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He’s not wrong. Mls is sunday league
Mls is also a retirement league
@@captainfalconmain6576 Only a very tiny percentage of MLS players are anything even close to "retirement" age...
MLS is a joke. USL isn't going near that
I'm too old. I grew up in an era when major sporting events, and all league play, were free. I've seen Apple grow from an innovative little company to a monopoly. Though I've been one of the few my age who has loved soccer my entire live (Dallas Tornado!), I won't be paying Apple for the "privilege" of watching the MLS. As for the stupidity of still not having the format while also considering playoff series, this isn't baseball, stick to soccer.
I have no idea when the MLS starts or ends or takes a break or which teams are involved or who the star players are, nothing. In contrast, I can name at least one team and one star player in the Saudi league. MLS really is embarrassing.
Imagine being a real footballer from a system that works perfectly as is and coming here and seeing this clustermess of drafts and playoffs. Promotion/relegation multi-tier system with no salary caps is the way to make a good league. Sportscomunism doesn't work, and mls will always be inferior until they implement the European table model.
Is totally why every major football owner in europe is trying to move to the mls model?
@@tobiogunsina8426 so the mls isn’t inferior to European leagues you’re right
There are so many different models out there. I felt the same way until I saw how Scotland, Argentina, Belgium, etc etc do it. The lack of info right now is a different story.
While every other euro club/league is corrupt or broke with overspending financial problems. Is what we have perfect nope but it’s better to build a solid foundation than rush off to a system that won’t work in our country quite yet.
They legue would fold under a European table model. Because of the competition from other sports leagues, coupled with playing over what are two continent sized countries, things like balanced schedules with no playoffs or relegation aren't going to work here. I agree the proposed best two out of three thing is stupid but there are logistical reasons why the league is set up the way it is lol
USL Championship and League 1 over MLS all day😂
TV partners obviously have a say, and it stands to reason they would want more playoff inventory. It is just an incredibly odd ask for a tv partner to want to put the greatest focus on the first round of the playoffs, turn that round into a slog, and then sprint to the finish when you expect to see the best matchups.
I think the theory is since we don’t really have away fans because it’s so much travel they want to give everyone a homegame at some point I n the playoffs and then just keep what has already been working the rest of the way through. This way every fanbase gets the chance to at least see one playoff game without having to book a flight and hotel.
@@gracielynn9623 that's fair. but at that point they should at leastdo what champions league does where the higher seeded team gets to play the final match at their grounds.
@@aranchuica965 ohh they do. In the best of three it goes home-away-home. The middle game is the away game for the better seated team. If it goes to game three, the team with the better record hosts.
@@gracielynn9623 that’s what I mean. If they do home and away. They should give the second leg to the higher seeded team. 3 matches is entirely too much to be playing for 3-4 playoff rounds. That’s 4-6 weeks worth of games every 3 or so days
@@aranchuica965 they only do the best of three for the round of 16, conference quarterfinals. Once you get past this round, they are all single elimination games at the home of the team with the better record.
250 million a year is extremely laughable and pathetic for a deal when it’s all broken down. Before production expenses and such l, it’s only 8.6 million per club. Hopefully they have an out clause by the World Cup
It’s also a giant upgrade from what ESPN was paying them. ESPN was only giving a grand total of $90M per year for everything. At least apple is almost trippling that.
@@gracielynn9623 mls is now responsible for all production costs and hiring of talent which will end up being less than what they’re getting from their TV Deals with ESPN, fox and tudn
It's the dumbest playoff format they've done yet. Best of 3 series? Are you kidding me? What a convoluted mess. No wonder MLS continues to be a laughing stock.
The league should be a league with one trophy not trophies for winning the first section then playoff trophy..
The MLS cup like the FA cup.
Without promotion/ relegation MLS will never be elite. It's really a joke.
Yep
Kicking out one bad team and replacing it with another bad team every year won't change anything I can assure you...
@@davepazz580 you do realize that a billionaire owner can own a team from the lower leagues and is patiently waiting for their opportunity to get into the big leagues. Perfect example, Nottingham Forest in the premier league. The team got promoted to the premier league and the billionaire owner bought like 23 new players and is investing in the team with the premier league cash he received. Also, when you have Promotion/ relegation the players play harder, the fans are more loud and roudy because you are fighting to survive. You are fighting to stay alive in the premier league. Everything goes up another level. Southampton, Everton, Leeds, Bournemouth, the lower 6 teams in the premier league are on edge. There is no comfort. If you get relegated the city and the team is going to lose a lot of money. Most of the players are going to leave, the manager and staff will get fired. It's like a funeral. It's like a death. MLS is too comfortable. That's not football. I like my Orlando City team but it's hard to invest a lot of time into MLS. MLS will have no choice but to go Promotion/ relegation because people are going to stop caring.
That's in England, where clubs are independent entities and soccer suffers no serious competition from other big-time sports for fans' attention... this is America where an entirely different sports culture exists, and the entire year is planned out by various sports leagues championship games...
And no better way to give fans less of a reason for showing up to games than to basically tell them they have to be punished (by no longer having a team in the top division) for what the players and coaches did on the field...
The average fan will simply dump his soccer team entirely and shift focus to the other, bigger sports teams in town... you know, the ones that actually give fans a *reason* for showing up other than silly threats of no longer being int he top league.
btw everything you said about players leaving and coaches getting fired is *also* what happens when an MLS team finishes last... so really it's all the same thing.
@@davepazz580 it's not the same thing. Football/Soccer has promotion/relegation worldwide. Other countries have multiple major league sports also. England has Rugby, Cricket etc. Italy, Spain has Basketball along with soccer. Listen I disagree with you. MLS will never be a top league with a closed system that doesn't allow promotion/relegation. People are going to become disinterested after awhile. To be honest with you, with the change in demographics and more Hispanics and Europeans and Asians flock to America, Soccer should not try to be like other American sports. All they got to do is get it right. If MLS do not incorporate promotion/ relegation then Americans will just turn their attention to the Premier league and La Liga because when you watch the sport on tv it looks like 2 different sport. I live in Orlando and the Orlando Magic has been trash for like 20 years. Absolute Trash. The Jacksonville Jaguars is the same. So I don't think the American sports fan will stop supporting their team if they get relegated. In my opinion, the Orlando Magic has been relegated for like 20 years. The only time fans show up is when big superstars like lebron come to town. So the American sports closed league system is worse than promotion/relegation in my eyes.
What can we expect from people who call the game by wrong name ?
Simpletons like you who still can't let it go?
What can we expect from people who are so ignorant about the sport that they don't know the origin of the name?
@@davidt3956 thank you
Tell that to Italy...
lol, i _knew_ getting into bed with apple was a stupid decision! *apple sucks.*
MLS is a joke lol. What league has so many teams? What is the actual expansion plan, 36 teams? Its ridiculous, rumors of best of 3 games would kill the regular season which is already on life support. The bottom teams already have absolutely nothing to play for. Most MLS teams average under 20k attendance per game and its because the games don't matter. What makes games matter Promotion and Relegation.
The US is like 30x the landmass of most european countries
Maybe they average that because about 60% of the league has around 22000 and below capacity
Many leagues around the world sell out every game. MLS should expect the same.
@@jamisonmunn9215 that's not true whatsoever. No teams ever reach 100% or even 99% attendance. A healthy number is between 90 and 96% which lots of mls teams have
@@jamisonmunn9215 Many leagues don't have other leagues/sports that they are in real competition with in their own country though
Best of three just takes the point of home and away 😂😂😂
This is ridiculous. Semi professional leagues are run better than this. This is why concacaf is a joke
Best of what ? Why not make it 2 legs call it a day 😐
Because no one likes the leg format because in 9/10 you already know who’s won before the second leg is even played.
@gracielynn9623 - 🤣 it's called Normal soccer throughout the world best out of 3 ridiculous
@@robertohernandez2258 ask normal americans what they think of two legged things. To us, that’s ridiculous. The league has to take into account where it’s playing. Best of three is popular with americans, two legged things is silly to us and vast majority of americans, soccer fan or not, don’t like that idea. We don’t like knowing essentially who’s won before the second game is even played. We don’t like those being simply formalities. MLS used to do do two legged playoffs, they were incredibly unpopular.
Inter Miami fans are fuming we have Phil Neville instead of a real manager. I'm not sure how they expect to sign Messi if they don't take winning seriously.
He was never gonna join your joke league in the first place
He was just using you bud for a new deal
What winning? Mls has nothing to offer. Winning or losing dont impact anybody clown
Wow, the ignorant savages are active in the comments.
@@stevenygabbyperez695 you call us savages
I’d say you lot are the savages
We’re the proper football fans
Funny how Americans make the English out to be southern and bucktoothed but in reality we’re not and we’re passionate about our teams and leagues
Meanwhile in the 🇺🇸
“I believe that we will win”
“USA USA”
“Fight And Win”
You lot don’t even know what tribal is
Heck you lot don’t even act like proper football fans instead you act like your at a NBA game or a NFL game
USL’s got more respect around the world than you
Imagine calling yourself a top 10 league based off attendance only you sad fucks 😂
Lol!! That’s why I still haven’t watch a MLS game 😂
MLS is a joke ,
Best of 3 ⚽️ is a 💩 idea
I love mls but hate how they tryin to change it to nfl bs need partner with Europe an learn sum things about fotball/soccer
And also apple products sux . Like who really uses that bs in 30 sum years only new 1 person to use apple lol
MLS is more or less on par with the English farmers league.
Honestly they should revamp and just copy Europe with here format they need to make cups and leagues instead of this American style tournament
Not even every European league has a league format and noone complains about Liga MXs playoffs and double seasons...
If the mls wants to become elite they should just copy Europe maybe they would get more interest
Except that Europe doesn't have 4 other big sports leagues (and all of them bigger than soccer) also vying for the public's attention... you can't "copy" what was never conceived under identical circumstances in the first place.
Football works everywhere else like this , they should do this MLS could be massive instead it’s a pub league , and it’s because of the play offs and the American vibe
MLS will always be levels below Europe!!
MLS football has nothing to do with NFL or any other American sport. The guy on the left just doesn’t get football ⚽️. You must not let the broadcast company take over. I thought it was bad enough with PL with its ridiculous starting times.
Whether they like it or not, *any* professional American sports league is in direct competition with the NFL and other leagues for the public's attention...
There is a specific reason American sports leagues don't schedule their most important games to coincide with the other league's championship games, as it would be idiotic to do so...